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David, please show me where in our rules that is says that a sysop has the right to tell any user what account he or she should use. I know you're relatively new, but socking up is actually something of a tradition here at RW. maybe you could review the relevant [[RationalWiki:Sysop_guide#More_about_blocking|section in the sysop's guide]] and in the [[Community_Standards#Blocking|community standards]] before continuing your little feud with one user. Thanks. [[User:P-Foster|P-Foster]] ([[User talk:P-Foster|talk]]) 16:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 
David, please show me where in our rules that is says that a sysop has the right to tell any user what account he or she should use. I know you're relatively new, but socking up is actually something of a tradition here at RW. maybe you could review the relevant [[RationalWiki:Sysop_guide#More_about_blocking|section in the sysop's guide]] and in the [[Community_Standards#Blocking|community standards]] before continuing your little feud with one user. Thanks. [[User:P-Foster|P-Foster]] ([[User talk:P-Foster|talk]]) 16:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
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New logo large.png Welcome to RationalWiki, David Gerard!

Check out our guide for newcomers and our community standards!

Tell us how you found RationalWiki here!

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Are you perhaps related to Netherlandish painter Gerard David? ThunderkatzHo! 19:11, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

No, but I now beat him in Google for a search on my own name ;-) - David Gerard 19:12, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
Welcome to the Dollhouse! Are you that David Gerard? ħψɱɐUser talk:Human 14:30, 26 May 2008 (EDT)
I'm this one :-) - David Gerard 06:24, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
That's what I thought... you're quite famous in certain circles, eh? Nice to see you here. ħumanUser talk:Human 15:35, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
I hope this isn't intrusive, but do you manage living with a wife and girlfriend? One of either is more than enough for most. ThunderkatzHo! 16:00, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
MY SUPERIOR RATIONALITY. (And saying "yes, dear" a lot.) - David Gerard 16:01, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Head swelling power

Use your new powers with extreme prejudice. Acei9 20:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Ace, you spelled "abuse" wrong. There's an "ab" at the beginning. Tetronian you're clueless 20:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
o_0 I told my girlfriend, who is a Christian. She knows there's no way she'll ever stop me being a dick about religion now - David Gerard (talk) 21:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Coming first in a Google search for one's name

Let's start a club! Professor Moriarty 21:22, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Holy crud

You've been here for over a year and a half? I just saw you today and thought you were new here! : ) Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 12:37, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

On and off, mostly off :-) - David Gerard (talk) 12:42, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah, you're probably not very familiar with wiki-editing. I know how that is. I will give you lessons. TO MAKE SOMETHING A LINK YOU PUT TWO BRACKETS AROUND IT. LIKE [[THIS]]. That is your first lesson. You're welcome.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 12:59, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow! How did you make it go red like that? - David Gerard (talk) 13:05, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I like that you have a wife, a girlfiend, and some assorted cats in what I assume to be the same place. Your blog looks cool. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 02:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Turing machine

My life is now filled with an unfulfillable desire for one of those. I hope you're happy. Time drug Hoover! 09:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Good job!

Pat on the back for your creation of the Mensa and Dunning-Kruger effect‎ articles. Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 02:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, nice work. I copied my snark, but saw the new link. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Where you were in Wikipedia

Tracked it down: you were editing Talk:Citizendium. And I see you're still in CZ too, though it didn't detain you for long. Ro Thorpe (talk) 00:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I edited a few pages there, but mostly couldn't be bothered, I didn't actually leave as such - David Gerard (talk) 00:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi there

Just sayin' hey. rational ghey (talk) 23:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

COWER BEFORE MY MIGHT, MORTAL. I mean, hi! - David Gerard (talk) 23:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
=) I see you've been at WP for a while as well as experience some sysopperiness there. Just wondering if it's just like here or what and what you personally make of the WP. :P rational ghey (talk) 23:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I am part of the Sekrit Kabal that apparently runs the place. News to me. But my phone number is publicly available so people in the UK can annoy me for Wikipedia-related press quotes. Of late I've only gotten Nigerian scammers call me. Yes, really. - David Gerard (talk) 23:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
SIDE note: lmfao! rational ghey (talk) 23:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
And on the SAME DAY as he UNILATERALLY BOMBED THE MOON - David Gerard (talk) 23:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

you like it here

I know you do. We're fun to hang with. You like us. You might even think or agree that Mei is useful. Come on, you like us ;) ħumanUser talk:Human 07:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I've been on a RationalWiki binge for a few days, yes indeed. I expect it'll pass. But gems like How come there are still monkeys? are just irreplaceable - David Gerard (talk) 07:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes one gets bored of dreaming in encyclopedia-speak. Sometimes one wants to get in touch with their inner monkey. On rationalwiki one can explore that voice. It's nice to have you around. ħumanUser talk:Human 07:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
It's the lure of somewhere to be an Arrogant Arsehole Atheist - David Gerard (talk) 07:12, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I am not a number ...

... but you are - number 46 that is. (Ed's in at 65) (HT) 07:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC) yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade)

There should be a userbox for that - David Gerard (talk) 07:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Could you try not to do that?

I mean, erasing a bunch of people's comments? Not cool. P-Foster (talk) 17:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Entirely error on my part, I assure you - David Gerard (talk) 17:51, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Carry on, then, sir! P-Foster (talk) 17:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

you know

... I was being sarcastic right? rational ghey (talk) 17:57, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

THIS IS AN ENTIRELY HETEROSEXUAL COCK IN MY MOUTH - David Gerard (talk) 18:13, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
omg. lol rational ghey (talk) 18:27, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I AM PROGRESSING FAAAAABULOUSLY QUITE WELL THANK YOU - David Gerard (talk) 18:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
HAHA Did you see the southpark episode on that? rational ghey (talk) 18:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Acting properly?

Don't want to put words into your mouth or anything, but given the rest of your comment did you mean "acting properly" or "improperly"? alt (talk) 23:17, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

D'oh, improperly! - David Gerard (talk) 23:20, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Fillmore, not the venue

Nice work, and thanks for preserving the links to my ancient (2005) work. You are indeed an asset to this site! ħumanUser talk:Human 07:25, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I like you. And I think it's cool you met Jimmy Wales. --rational ghey (talk) 12:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Jimmy Wales is a smart guy, but his greatest achievement was working out how to surround himself with people so alarmingly smart they make him feel dumb - David Gerard (talk) 12:59, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
You mean like Bill Clinton (feels nostalgic) ? I love being around smart people myself :p but that's off topic. --rational ghey (talk) 13:04, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
There's two kinds of employers/bosses - ones who surround themselves with people who make them feel smart, and ones who surround themselves with people who make them feel stupid. Guess who succeeds? ħumanUser talk:Human 02:02, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Like I said

You're awesome. That's really interesting. I didn't realize it was that prehistoric. rational ghey (send a message) 00:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Neither did I till I Googled it! I knew the five fingers thing was well before mammals, with a lot of fish having five whatevers holding their fins up ... - David Gerard (talk) 01:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
My childhood cat disagrees. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey David...

I don't care what everyone else says. I think you're okay. Keep doing what you're doing. P-Foster (talk) 21:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

reminds me of how you gained my trust, only to stab me in the back while I was plowing that cheap whore. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 21:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
That's what you call me behind my back, Neveruse? I'm glad I short changed you, you bastard. SJ Debaser 21:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

LessWrong

'Tis done. Tetronian you're clueless 02:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Win! *pint* - David Gerard (talk) 09:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Evolutionary psychology

Cheers for that link, I've added it to the relevant article. 'Tis hilarious, but so true about how the media react to that sort of thing. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 12:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Everything before the second-last paragraph is a real news story - David Gerard (talk) 14:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I recognised them. It's often quite convincing in the news itself, but when you track down the actual papers it's less impressive and more often than not it's actually just a publicity stunt. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 18:19, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Metro is a very special and worthless newspaper given free to sleep-deprived commuters - David Gerard (talk) 18:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Spelling

Ok, I admit to not being a native english speaker. But hey at least I am trying. :P Sen (talk) 17:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realise! I shall be less poopy when copyediting :-) - David Gerard (talk) 18:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Twitter

Fuckin' hell David, you really are going at it with Twitter. I'm simultaneously impressed and somewhat concerned. El TajDon't make me do stuff 01:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

My laptop overheated and shut down around 2am. I decided sleep might be a good idea then - David Gerard (talk) 07:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Crat

Apparently I made you a bureaucrat. Congratulations for your cojh FUCIT I'm drubk you are ar3e cool. ħumanUser talk:Human 08:01, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I approve of this decision and/or event. Acei9 08:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Didn't we decide to vote on such demotions?--BobSpring is sprung! 09:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I voted on Thursday and there's still a dull ache - David Gerard (talk) 10:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Human is exempt from such petty things as voting It's his wiki, after all. SusanG Toast 10:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Congrats David. Welcome to the cabal liberal elitists gentlemen's club cratshipnesseusseussnessmussshush. SJ Debaser 10:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
It's just that after the last debate about cratting people who somebody we happened to like we tightened up the rulez.--BobSpring is sprung! 11:26, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Human is exempt from such petty things as voting rules It's his wiki, after all. SusanG Toast 11:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Mmmmm. This "Human is above the rulz" meme may be unfortunate.--BobSpring is sprung! 12:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
It is not so much a meme as an MO. - π 12:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
There are worse people to hand control of the wiki over to. Anonymous User for example. That wily minx would tear the site apart in a heartbeat if they got the chance. SJ Debaser 12:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Not true, I can do just as bad a job as the next guy. nobsdon't bother me 16:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Ha! Caught one Josh, and what a lovely one to catch. SusanG Toast 16:37, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Wow, Rob, I didn't know you saw yourself as a "wily minx." Tetronian you're clueless 16:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
The polite fiction is the "mob" is in control. - π 12:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Have you seems Humans face? He has a giant mob hanging from his chin. Acei9 12:56, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
"moobocracy - David Gerard (talk) 16:08, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Even though I thought we were supposed to vote on such demotions, I think that having you as a 'crat is one heck of a good idea in light of some of your actions related to this Wiki. The Goonie Punk Can't sleep, clowns will eat me! 19:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

That may be true, but if it's such an obviously good idea then why not do it in a legitimate manner? --BobSpring is sprung! 19:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not disagreeing with you Bob. I agree that I thought it should be put to a vote. But also, if a vote were held, I'd vote in the affirmative. AnarchoGoon Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living 19:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, if a vote had been held I would have voted against on the basis that we don't need any more crats. Do we need more crats? Or is the suggestion that that crat is a "better class of user"?--BobSpring is sprung! 19:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
If we have too many crats, why not promote some? -- Nx / talk 19:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
(EC) Per your suggestion, I have called a vote. And if your on;y concern is that we already have too many 'crats, then I'd gladly give up my 'cratship, since I am of the opinion that David Gerard is a more useful editor to this Wiki than I am. Gooniepunk2010 Oi! Oi! Oi! 19:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
My opinion is that the "we have too many crats" complaint is meaningless. We had a debate about this a while ago (Forum:bureaucratship), but nothing came out of that. -- Nx / talk 19:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I have two issues. The first - and most important - being that we have a process for creating crats which has not been followed. My secondary objection - which I raised in response to the implicit question "How would you have voted?" - is that I would have objected to the creation of this (or probably any) new crat.--BobSpring is sprung! 20:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with your first objection, but do not agree with your second one. How many is too many, and why is it too many?
In this case I am indifferent because David didn't ask for it, but otherwise I would strongly support him. -- Nx / talk 20:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
If you agree with my primary objection that's cool. The place for the secondary objection is elsewhere.--BobSpring is sprung! 20:51, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I've induced a HCM! Without even doing anything! \o/ - David Gerard (talk) 20:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry David. This is nowhere near HCM. Ah, those were the days!--BobSpring is sprung! 21:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
My bureaucratization was what made people realize that perhaps discussing first instead of letting a random crat decide on their own would be a good idea. So there. -- Nx / talk 21:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Congrats!!! Super Josh... uh wth. rational ghey (send a message) 13:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Question

Just curious. Are deleted contribs on RW here the same as they are on Wikipedia? Ie, deleted contribs are only those on pages which are deleted? Thanks, rational ghey (send a message) 13:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Not sure! I know on WP you can have pages which exist but have some revs deleted - David Gerard (talk) 14:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
It's called RevisionDelete, and we have it too. Deleted contribs only shows fully deleted pages (which are stored in a separate table in the database). Deleted and suppressed revisions are shown among normal contribs, e.g. Special:Contributions/212.235.107.57 (they are stored in the same table as normal revisions, but have a flag set to indicate that they are deleted) -- Nx / talk 14:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh I see. Yea, but I was wondering if Wikipedia's use of deleted contribs are the same as they are here on RW. I have a feeling no. Actually I was wondering if Wikipedia considers simply deleting material and adding nothing as a deleted contrib? rational ghey (send a message) 14:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
To your last, I suspect "no". ħumanUser talk:Human 06:35, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Remotion in locomotion!!!

I've re-made you a Bureacrat due to, what appears to be, a lack of votes in the last 48 hours, leaving you still in the lead on the pro-'crat side. Here, again, is your Manual of style. Peace!!! The Goonie Punk Can't sleep, clowns will eat me! 06:08, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I do solemnly swear to use the curse of my newfound powers only for good evil, and not for evil evil - David Gerard (talk) 07:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
"I pushed Cryonics to its present heights and am quite proud of it." That's part of what made me go my cratting binge with you. It was such excellent work. And then, you displayed full understanding of the goat, and the deal was sealed. Congratulations, as the song goes. ħumanUser talk:Human 07:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Actually, if you check the asterisk at the bottom, you are allowed to use your powers for evil evil. The only stipulation is that you not get caught. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 07:48, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, that explains a lot.

Now we know why their conversations are lacking in alcohol. Tetronian you're clueless 13:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh dear Dawkins, that's perfect - David Gerard (talk) 13:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I imagine some of them see the poll results as a good thing. What's even funnier, though, is if you scroll down to the comments they start quibbling over the statistical significance of the results. Tetronian you're clueless 14:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Their discussion is entirely rational, as are the tools they bring to it, and there's no rationalisation or self-justification going on there at all. Really really really - David Gerard (talk) 14:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Wow... the guy who set the survey said no one scored less than 10 on the AQ test. Um, the survey starts at "10 or less" so how can he tell? PS, I got a 10. I also enjoyed "Aspbergers Syndrome" which the header of the survey thank you page. ħumanUser talk:Human 22:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Content dump

You had expressed interest in a rationalwiki:Content dumps. Is this what you are after, or something different? tmtoulouse 20:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Current article XML is a damn fine start, thank you :-) I'll play with this in shortish order ... - David Gerard (talk) 22:03, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Pasted on user page

Hi David, I suspect that wp may be lowballing the numbers of deaths of Bengalis. Conservapaedia isn't the only open source with a conservative bias, and what could be more conservative than discounting the numbers killed by conservative icon W. Churchill?Thorvelden (talk)

So, find a few good sources, and fix it there too - David Gerard (talk) 21:54, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Fascist cretins

Wow, I was just looking around at my PunchingBag account, and noticed that you actually created a page fot this category! Fuckin' hilarious. Thanks! Lord Goonie Hooray! I'm helping! 23:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

IT ISS ALL ABOUT DER AUTOBAHNS! FAHR'N FAHR'N FAHR'N AUF DER AUTOBAHN! - David Gerard (talk) 23:32, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Ta!

Thanks for fixing my spelling :) CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

There's endless work on RW for those born with a red pencil in their hand - David Gerard (talk) 13:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

No

You won't revert my edits. It was all Bob/Jack who begun to archive my edits from his talk page two seconds after I had written them, so why shouldn't I be allowed to do the same with his comments? Seriously. --Earthland (talk) 11:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually Earthland is right. -- Nx / talk 12:14, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Just something I need to say

At first I could have accused you of being a hypocrite. After all, nobody has ever sued Bob for immediately archiving my edits, even when I reverted his edits. (Similarly, many things become "truth" just as soon as someone else than me says it, until that point it is something "completely laughable" and even "couldn't be farther from the truth").

However, there wasn't anything hypocritical about bringing Bob's comments back from the archive after you had just deleted (not archived) my comment on your talk page. Like, nobody is that openly hypocritical. It was an obvious, but nevertheless blatant and childish attempt to make me angry. God, you must really hate me. After all, if I were just another clown/troll then you should simply ignore me. I honestly don't know how come that I am the target of such hate, since I don't even remember that I would've ever directly talked to you.

There is nothing left but to wonder how could people here seriously "accuse" poor little Tweety for being 12 years old. 12 is far more than RW's average.

--Earthland (talk) 16:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Wtf.gif ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 18:50, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
He's 17. He's only just heard that thinking exists, let alone joined-up thinking. He could do with a fun time on LessWrong, since we're too dumb for him - David Gerard (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
"He's only just heard that thinking exists" your words speak of great maturity indeed. --Earthland (talk) 19:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
You're 17, you've only just heard that joined-up thinking exists - David Gerard (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I can't take you seriously because you're a single-issue troll. You have no interest in the site, you have no interest in its mission, you are a single-issue troll. You've reached the point where the difference between "troll" and "advocate" is meaningless. If you had any use here, you'd be contributing anywhere other than on your single droning monotone topic. You don't. Therefore you are a waste of bytes - David Gerard (talk) 20:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
You should have made this comment on the Administrative Abuse page, my dear. Talking on one topic does not make me troll. However, if it does interest you, I have made other contributions as well, as it is mentioned on my user page. There once seemed to be quite a consensus that I am not a troll. I think you have difficulties with reading, and oh... wishes give you big eyes. --Earthland (talk) 20:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
As I noted, you are not a member of the community and, notably, have no detectable interest in being one - only pursuing a single issue and attempting to exploit local rules to continue pursuing a single issue - David Gerard (talk) 20:45, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

New section

(Just thought that you'll notice)

Toast says it. --Earthland (talk) 19:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Death threat?

Did he just threaten to kill you? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:11, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Dude, I tangle with Scientology for fun - David Gerard (talk) 21:12, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but if he's going to be making death threats, then we need to stop treating him like just another troublemaker. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:19, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Plausibly he's talking about site politics. i.e., I wouldn't personally consider this worth an ISP report - David Gerard (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Honestly, I think he wants to have sex with you. But it is a bit vague, as such innuendo often are. --Kels (talk) 21:23, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I will admit that my rhetoric gets the better of me sometimes. Sorry if thats how it appeared. 'Waiting in the long grass' is a commong UK/Irish political term... IE, Brown waiting in the long grass for Blair.

I will take this as a providential sign that I should take an RW break for a while. My trolling has been pretty hardcore recently.

Sorry! 86.40.207.73 (talk) 21:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Plea

David, could you please edit by section on talk pages. Your edits on recent changes on e.g. SB & TWIGO are often hard to find, to the extent that I've stopped looking for them. 22:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast

I'll try to, then. But, uh, how does that affect diffs? - David Gerard (talk) 22:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Just look at Recent Changes. Almost all the talk page entries have "section name" which if clicked on takes you straight to the section instead of having to scroll down the whole page & hunt for the edit. Also, of course, section editing, rather than full page editing, reduces the risk of edit conflicts although I haven't noticed you getting many of them. Thanks. 22:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
Ah ha. What I frequently do is just hit the "edit" link under the words "Current edit" if it's the current edit. This is all but reflexive now. Hit the diff and it will be obvious what I've just said. In further surprising news, wikis make terrible forums software - David Gerard (talk) 22:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Ahhh this conversation takes me back... Acei9 22:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Screenshot.png

Say no more! That edit could have been a follow up to any of the three previous ones! 22:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast

Yes, but not if you hit "cur" - David Gerard (talk) 23:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Think you'll find that most people hit "", I know I do. 23:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
If you start hitting "cur", you'll see precisely what I last did, every time - David Gerard (talk) 23:46, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hitting CUR is so last year... Totnesmartin (talk) 14:34, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

With all due respect

I respect you as a valuable contributor to this website. Nevertheless, I'm of the opinion that if a certain someone shows up on a user talkpage that isn't your own, you should let said user deal with it how they want. I won't stop you from doing what you are currently doing, it's just that some of us (myself for one) would rather toy with the trolls than revert them. Just sayin'. Peace. The Goonie Punk Can't sleep, clowns will eat me! 14:09, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I totally agree with the nine hour bans for MC, but the outcome of the LJ thing was that user talk pages are left to their owners unless the content is "obviously vile". i.e. something more offensive than some guy role playing as a Disneyfied Che Guevara. "Doing an Nx" is useful, since that's what brought us to the point of actually deciding how to deal with him, but right now we have a reasonable consensus we should try. --ConcernedResident Fightin' round the world 14:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
OK, no worries :-) - David Gerard (talk) 14:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah. If it was "RA you're a cunt and I'm going to track you down and kill you fucker" then I'd wholeheartedly support reverting someone else's page. But as it is, leave it to RA to see if he wants to keep it or burn it. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 14:42, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Whack a mole

Nice bit of whack a mole you're doing there. We really should implement some kind of award for keeping the place free of the irritant. ConcernedResident omg ponies!!! 14:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

It amuses me and passes the time between writing substantive contribution. Others should feel free to join in. Note the increased infuriation value of not writing a snarky edit comment - David Gerard (talk) 14:46, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
True. I think we have a few people participating in this. ConcernedResident omg ponies!!! 15:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but why do you block and bin him when he's not trolling? ÑR/Señor Admin/Hablar 15:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
You have a misunderstood on the word "trolling" - David Gerard (talk) 15:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
I saw one saloon bar post that wasn't objectionable getting reverted, but nearly everything else was at least obnoxious. Looking at CP's definition of trolling has skewed my perspective so badly I just don't know what real trolling is anymore. Sorry about that. ÑR/Señor Admin/Hablar 17:04, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
I want not approve on it. I think polite post. SJ Debaser 17:17, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
There is nothing MC posts here that is not for the purpose of trolling. That's how he got blocked in the first place - David Gerard (talk) 17:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, he already explained his position pretty clearly, and the best approach seems to be to just keep reverting his stuff until he goes away or switches tactics. ConcernedResident omg ponies!!! 17:30, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I have to ask

"Letat mefenis hapedu owal be ro erare sapilal firopa, otapi rataroc loset lac esonucek reni! Ti delani nirar: Upu tusame cenikoc toter ranot esebehe tev hoyohe mitut si: Gidas retu resere pi reto sehi". What is that? Google says it's Latin but they can't translate it. Senator Harrison (talk) 22:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I did a Google on "gibberish generator" and something that made that came up. You had blocked someone for incomprehensibility ;-) - David Gerard (talk) 22:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Haha ok Senator Harrison (talk) 23:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your Welcome Comment

B-but, if this is as addicting as TVTropes, then won't it ruin my life?

...never mind. I'll take the life ruination. If TVTropes is awesome, then RW is.

Editing someone else's image upload copyright

Marking my photo "public domain" was a really bad move. What on earth was your rationale? ħumanUser talk:Human 04:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Other than the fact that you put, in the summary comment, that it was a public domain image? The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 05:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Um, yeah, apart from that. Back then we had no sophisticated copyright templates to choose from. Oh well. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:04, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I dunno. My guess is that he was going through the unlicensed images category and saw you called it "public domain" and thought that that was the license on it. AnarchoGoon Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living 06:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Probably, indeed. Like I said, back then we didn't have the concept of "self-RW only" copyrighting. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:10, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Er, wut. If you didn't want it to be regarded as "public domain", why did you say in the text it was "public domain"? - David Gerard (talk) 07:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Per e-mail discussion, it was from back in the stone age of the Wiki when they didn't have cool templates that worded things like image copyrights the way you wanted them to be worded. Lord Goonie Hooray! I'm helping! 08:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
PRO TIP for Human: if you don't want to release things under a given licence, it's probably a good idea not to release them under the licence in question. See Creative Commons - David Gerard (talk) 08:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
PRO TIP for David, how about asking the user in question, and having some historical knowledge? ħumanUser talk:Human 09:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
To be honest I'd have done the same as David during one of my sweeps of the images. We've a lot of images without licences, and it only seems worth contacting the author if there's no comment at all. Historically there is some confusion, which is why I was asking a while back about how licencing worked back in the old days of RW. Still, it's in the power of teh wiki to fix these things, and it's difficult to see anything other than good faith and a completely understandable misunderstanding here. ConcernedResident omg ponies!!! 09:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
And I did fix the copyleft on said image to what I "intended" years ago. I hope some of the above comments smooth out the tone of my first edit here. There's a lot of "old" material here, that needs to be upgraded, indeed. ħumanUser talk:Human 09:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I live in constant fear of finding some of the stranger old material - such as a picture of Linus' nuts squashed up against a window. It's like the Ark of the Covenant but without the laser beams and stuff. Some of the old essays are quite interesting. Been working my way through them over the past week or so. ConcernedResident omg ponies!!! 09:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
(EC)The trouble is, a template is more "official" compared to a brief paragraph under it - but you can't retract PD or CC status after the fact. So you can get conflicting instructions and which one takes priority? Of course, this is all academic because the odds of this ever being tested in a legal sense lies somewhere between zero and none but it's still important that we try to minimise copyright conflicts. As for changing the status of other users work, or adding templates, there's one big issue in that the amount of sodding sockpuppetry on this site makes it impossible to conclusively determine who did what to who half the time. For instance, this edit CC'd PH's image, so I reverted it. But no, because Antony is PH but how was I supposed to know that and how do we actually know that? We have the advantage that PH is still around to sort out quibbles. We have a lot of images still unmarked that need sorted, and if we just relied solely on the original autho:::rs to do it, it'd take a very long time indeed. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 09:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes. It's clear now that Human is unclear on the concept - but in the general case, the expectation that no-one will fix a template problem is obviously unreasonable - David Gerard (talk) 14:42, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Human, did you add the "ZOMG NO TEMPLATE!" notice? No, a bot did. Did you flame the bot for saying in template form something you didn't say in text, or did you save that for someone saying what you did say in text?
I really do not see any problem with adding a {{PD}} when someone has said, unambiguously, that the work is PD. Are you claiming it isn't really PD? What on earth is the substantive problem here supposed to be, other than that you flamed here without thinking? - David Gerard (talk) 10:44, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
David, no. I typed "public domain, I guess". That is not unambiguous. This was back before we had easily-used copyright templates. You know, before you came here. You know, before your time. A simple note to me would have been nice ("Hey, do you really want this to be PD?"). It is clear to me that DG is unclear on the concept of a wiki evolving and growing, and perhaps, to some extent, 86.x.x.x is correct. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
"I did something without thinking, someone took me at my word therefore it can't possibly be my fault and the troll is correct." Your logic is unassailable - David Gerard (talk) 09:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

A-nar-chy! A-nar-chy!

I take it you're not a big fan of all the nuances of anarchist theory? :) Secret Squirrel (talk) 11:51, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

I used to do an indie rock fanzine. This sunk me deep into the alternative cultures of the late '80s and early '90s. I know far too much about this stuff. I also used to live next door to an anarchist bookstore. (Top people, lovely neighbours, an unfortunate number of attempted window smashings by neo-Nazis ...) - David Gerard (talk) 14:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Indisposed

My laptop let out the magic smoke (really, delicate curling wisp of white smoke and the smell of burning plastic) when the power supply blew up and took my machine with it. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa *sob* So I'll be sparse for a while - David Gerard (talk) 16:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Aw, sorry to hear. You were just about reaching Human levels of editing. ConcernedResident omg ponies!!! 16:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Obviously I just melted it with THE POWER OF RATIONALITY. - David Gerard (talk) 16:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Just bought a replacement on eBay for £107 inc post. Yay! - David Gerard (talk) 20:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Marcus

I think you're being very unfair by just deleting MC's comments. Why not make them nice instead so he can get his point across without coming across as a cunt? CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I suppose I can channel the deep yearnings in his soul, if I can be bothered - David Gerard (talk) 13:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I know you're new here, and you think you're a big swinging dick at WP, but knock it off. Read our community standards. Stop altering comments. Fuck off. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 13:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Getting angry about it Marcus Neveruse? CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah. I thought community standards were there for a reason... I guess not when you're a cabalist. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 13:29, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
The alternative is to remove them entirely. Surely that's terribly unfair to his important message - David Gerard (talk) 13:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Indeed. It's better to help him get his point across than to delete entirely. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
God, you guys are insufferable assholes. Changing and deleting comments is not cool. It's against the standards. It's irrational. It's authoritarian. You guys are douches. Let it go. You can do it. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 13:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Your bad faith is terribly disheartening - David Gerard (talk) 13:34, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
And deleting Marcus' comments was expressly endorsed by the Lovely Jubblies in their recent decision, contrary to your assertions above. I suggest you spend a day or two in contemplation of the matter - David Gerard (talk) 13:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
What was endorsed was allowing users to remove offensive posts from their own talk pages. ħumanUser talk:Human 21:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Read our standards, asshole. You can't be doing this in good faith. Every change someone's comment at WP? — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 13:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Marcus is a troll, and was made expressly unwelcome by being blocked. If he had anything whatsoever to say that was of any value here, he wouldn't be blocked. Equating Marcus with any other editor on RW whatsoever is fallacious. Earthland would wield the coathanger personally if the foetus was Marcus - David Gerard (talk) 13:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm thinking of starting a coprolalia article and using Marcus and his socks as an example. But I can't think of a goof RW angle. Any ideas?--BobSpring is sprung! 14:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Research psychologist

Looks like he just wasn't wacko enough for Metapedia. Punky Your mental puke relief 21:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

We all laughed out loud - David Gerard (talk) 21:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
As did I. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 21:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
As did I! Gya ha ha! Research psychologist (talk) 11:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
You realise, of course, that you are a failed Nazi - David Gerard (talk) 12:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Heh heh, that was a funny conversation. Kind of like when Protestants describe Catholics as being deluded for praying to statues of Mary, while thinking nothing of the inherent strangeness in imploring the invisible alleged creator of all things to help them find their missing keys. ConcernedResident omg ponies!!! 11:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

You fascist

File:Hitlercat.jpg
David's cat.

Why did you block that cunt, he was beginning to be fun? - π 10:46, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

MOAR HITLER - David Gerard (talk) 10:49, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Apology

I am so very, very sorry for all the trouble I have caused and will continue to cause RationalWiki. I like cats. PS: CUNT CUNT CUNT FUCK PISS SHIT - 86.40.195.261 (talk) 10:58, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I not funny geek. no friends life. obese skull. PS: CUNT CUNT CUNT FUCK PISS SHIT 86.40.200.55 (talk) 11:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Editing comments

We (apparently) have the permission of the Lanced Jitters to remove his abusive comments. Editing them is needlessly provocative. I know I am being a hypocrite as I have edited his comments and I think I edited Jinx's comments once, but there is a reason you are his current target and that is he gets a rise out of you. Just remove them from your talkpage if they are upsetting you. - π 12:29, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

As you do, I find him amusing in various small ways - David Gerard (talk) 12:31, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
It seems somewhat asymmetric that you can both taunt him and block him. If you are going to play with him, let him have a fair chance to respond. - π 12:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
His responses are entirely contained in the history, in multiple redundant copies - David Gerard (talk) 12:37, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
At the risk of being a troll's advocate and committing the local equivalent of Godwin's Law, blocking a person and then either removing their comment or getting the final word in is an old tactic of Schlafly's and we have always strived to avoid such things. - π 12:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
In that case I shall remove them and replace them with my own original parodies - David Gerard (talk) 12:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I can't see anything wrong about that at a technical level, but if he keeps trolling you I can give you a few hints why. - π 12:45, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I have a readout here for his blood pressure, which is rather higher than mine right now - David Gerard (talk) 12:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I smell of wee and am disgusting and vile. I am so sorry. 86.40.ei.π (talk) 12:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
David, please stop editing other's talk page comments. You want them gone? Delete them. What you are doing is forgery. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
I AM NOT A FORGERY I AM A NUMBER. I like you Human, you're not like the others. FUCK SHIT CUNT PISS - 86.40.ei.π (talk) 10:41, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, it was me that started editing his comments, not Gerard. Gave me a laugh - far more than I would get from MC himself. Acei9 10:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Heh. Acei9 10:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
FUCK SHIT CUNT PISS You are all beautiful and lovely people and I am deeply ANUS BISCUITS sorry for any inconvenience caused CLITORIS. Also, I don't really want sysop - 86.40.ei.π (talk) 10:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Stop being a dick. You are just unnecessarily antagonising him. You are not being funny and using your wiki powers to harass and bait him is assholish. - π 12:26, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Invective

Generally, I've no problems with shouting matches and hurling abuses - as long as there is still a subject which is discussed. But when a user just strings up invectives, I don't want such a behaviour to be encouraged. Therefore, I delete such entries as trolling - and I delete any troll-bating, too. I hope you find this acceptable. larronsicut fur in nocte 13:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

+1 This sort of thing adds nothing to the wiki - 86.40.ei.π (talk) 13:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Blocking IPs only makes it worse just ignore the troll. You don't need to read his posts.

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I think P-Foster is trying to tell us something. What's that boy? Little Timmy fell down the well? CrundyTalk nerdy to me 12:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Woof. Quaru (talk) 12:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Jesus Christ, Gerard.

Are you really this thin-skinned? Suck it up, Princess. Grow a pair. P-Foster (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I like playing games too

--Idiot number 59 (talk) 14:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

WOULD YOU LIKE A GAME OF CHESS? - David Gerard (talk) 14:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I suppose I am too idiotic for that. Sorry. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 14:54, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
WHAT ABOUT A NICE GAME OF GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR POUNDING BAT SODOMY? - David Gerard (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Watt is that? --Idiot number 59 (talk) 07:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I am popping in to say hello...

I don't think we've met before. Hello. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 23:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

SCIENCE AND MATH! DEFEATED! - David Gerard (talk) 23:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
I am unsure how to respond to that comment.--The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 23:45, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
HA! HA! YOU PROBABLY TRIED TO USE SCIENCE TO RESPOND TO IT! - David Gerard (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HOUR ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH- No 1 Day God. EVIL STUPID DAVID GERARD BLOCK AND SUPRESS "SCIENTIFIC METHOD". YOU ARE EDUCATED EVIL AND MIGHT HAVE TO KILL EDUCATED "ONE" STUPID BUREAUCRATS. THEY ARE PAID TO ENFORCE EVIL STUPID COMMUNITY STANDARDS PROPAGANDA- NOT HARMONIUS 4-CUBE WISDOM!!!
Tremble, foolish mortal. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 23:55, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
HA! HA! YOUR PITIFUL INDUCTIVE REASONING LEAVES YOU HELPLESS TO DEAL WITH MY POWERFUL CONSERVATIVE INSIGHTS! --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 22:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
um you smell and yo moma dress you funny - David Gerard (talk) 22:44, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd score this one Emperor 7 David 2. ħumanUser talk:Human 07:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Pepsi

Makes fun reading, don't it? 22:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast

What was that for?!

Can't users express their opinion any more? Can't users even nominate pages they consider stupid for deletion any more? Sounds like censorship! I didn't delete that page, I first made talk page edit, I followed the rules! --Idiot number 57 (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

And your cat is ugly as well.

--Idiot number 57 (talk) 10:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Why are you vandal binning Idiot number 59?

That falls under the category of humorous vandalism, not a binnable offense. - π 11:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to unbin if you feel there's potential there to unleash - David Gerard (talk) 11:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Can't I am not a sysop, but if he is not damaging anything there is no need to bin him. Open editing for all. - π 11:51, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Justice will finally have to win. Your transparent attempts to clean RW of the intellectual ones have failed, David Gerard. --Idiot number 58 (talk) 12:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I like to understand the above if people make nice post? Tiatton of (talk) 07:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Blocking MC for stuff he does on Crundy's talk page

Why? If you know that whatever a BON that starts with an 8 is writing on somebody else's page is gonna piss you off enough to deal out a block, why even read it? DFTT Gerard. DFTT. P-Foster (talk) 17:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Your valiant defence of my Zenlike state of mind is deeply appreciated - David Gerard (talk) 17:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
[trees and flowers] 86.40.204.94 (talk) 09:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Back off, David. No one asked you to unilaterally delete comments by/and block random things left by 86.n.n.n Please stop being a self-assigned dick wad. ħumanUser talk:Human 09:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, Crundy did expressly ask that MC comments be deleted. You are both way overreaching here. - David Gerard (talk) 11:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I see he did, kind of. Your link is not as clear as you might desire. Your desire to delete and block is unsavory. But we are not over reacting, we are concerned about RW's core principles. ħumanUser talk:Human 12:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I hadn't heard "Being provably, factually wrong in the defence of liberty is no vice" as an RW principle before - David Gerard (talk) 12:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
And, for the record, if MC leaves anything on my page, I'm cool with them being deleted on sight. And on site. I guess. I also refuse to further comment on anything he leaves. I learned my lesson. DFTFT... It's like trying to point out to a brick wall why they may need to be washed of graffiti... Except the brick wall in this case swears more. And tries to get in the way.. And accuses you of trying to repress his message of "killing all the darkies," as apparently it's the KKK who left the paint.. Oh well. Quaru (talk) 11:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Q, you need to say that at the top of your talk page. Not here, inviting a deletion/block hungry whore to take over your talk page. ħumanUser talk:Human 12:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Your comment appears to be saying "I was just proven factually wrong again so I'll spew some random abuse to try to cover for it." Is this another of those RW core principles? You should list them somewhere - David Gerard (talk) 12:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
That's it you have really done it now, he is going to revert your most recent edits for that. - π 12:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure Human would never go off on a butthurt-motivated reversion expedition, that seems completely out of character - David Gerard (talk) 12:41, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

In Gerard's defense, Crundy and I have expressed, in the past, what conduct we would like with regards to 86.#.#.# being on our talkpages. I'm sure that, if you asked Crundy himself, he'd say "revert," whereas, so far as I go, I usually prefer to handle it myself. I would, however, urge David Gerard to use extreme caution in dealing with 86####, though. As P-Foster said, be careful not to feed the troll. AnarchoGoon Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living 18:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

At the end of the day, I'm not going to give that little Irish twat the time of day. If someone else doesn't revert it from my talk page then either I'm going to do it next time I log on, or loads of other people are going to start having an argument with him about it on my talk page, thereby feeding the troll. So yes please, revert his 12 year old style rambling from my talk page (And thanks DG for dealing with that one). CrundyTalk nerdy to me 18:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Can I add my page to the National Do-Not-Troll List? --Kels (talk) 19:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Refs -> Footers

I thought there was a bot to do that. Prolly not or they'd all have been done. 22:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast

Apparently not. Also, some articles have both - David Gerard (talk) 22:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps you yourself could go in bot mode? AceLiquid Room 22:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
I'll just do a few more then get bored - David Gerard (talk) 22:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
But yes, bot mode is a good idea for next time - David Gerard (talk) 22:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
I dunno. I thought we did have a bot. Šţěŗĭļė tooth 22:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
The initial conversion we had a bot do, but it was a one time shot. tmtoulouse 22:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Hostility

Clearly you haven't been here long enough to recognize that all of my fucking comments are indistinguishable from hostility, bitch. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 22:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

My apologies, Miss! Read a fucking book - David Gerard (talk) 22:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
That's read a fucking book Emperor, n00b. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 22:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
FUCK A FUCKING FUCK, FUCK! Fuck - Fuck (fuck) 22:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
You'll have to try harder than that to get my goat. Oh wait, you don't even know what a goat is...--The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 22:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Zohilieo ur pol nizuwun
Ur bar ah mur bro brapisun
Hai miz bithutsoo
Uk zin patztuwoo
Hilmiz txa txodun gu kain tun - David Gerard (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
BZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZZBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ--The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 23:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
You fucks know nothing of hostility. AceX-102 23:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
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This is an english speaking wiki, so speak english or gtfo back to cleaning my pool. Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 23:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I DECONSTRUCT YOUR ANUS. IN FRENCH - David Gerard (talk) 23:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
PUIS-JE LE DECONSTRUIRE? --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 23:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Your spelling is terrible. I think what you meant to say was "MY PENIS IS CROOKED AND COULD FIT INSIDE THE EAR OF A BABY ANT" Glad to help. Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 23:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
And they say, Theemperor, maybe one day you'll find true love. Ah, I say maybe - David Gerard (talk) 23:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)q

Alright listen here you mind-numbing fuckbags. Instead lazing around fingering your own stool samples while dribbling urine into a catheter bag why don't you seeping anus sores do something productive. AceX-102 23:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

STRIKE FOR MORE PAY! WE NEED PAID EDITING BY PEPSI - David Gerard (talk) 23:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Bah! I've was a productive contributor on this wiki when you were still sucking you mothers' tits. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 23:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
You've been here since yesterday morning? Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 23:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
SAY FRIEND. AN ARTICLE ON PEPSI'S FOOD FRONTIERS IS JUST WHAT THE RATIONALWIKI FOUNDATION WANTS TO SEE HERE - David Gerard (talk) 23:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I hear that reputable foodologists are increasingly convinced that drinking fifteen bottles of Dr. Pepper a day drastically reduces your chances of dying from old age. Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 00:06, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
DID YOU KNOW THERE IS A HITLER TEMPLATE? I DIDN'T EITHER!!!!

--The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 00:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

That is bloody class! Where do I sign-up for your newsletter? Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 00:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
This reminds me of the good old days. You lame fucks with no lives. MOAR HITLER! ħumanUser talk:Human 02:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
"You lame fucks with no lives. MOAR HITLER!" Careful there, Huw. Your acting like Hitler. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 02:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


Hitler: My dog hass no nose!
Crowd: How ... does ... he ... schmell?
Hitler (clasping chest dramatically): Terrible!
--Jre (talk) 00:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Awesomely perfect!

I received the following comment minutes after making a minor tweak to our favorite string-theorist's page:

Jre, your posting is typical of anti-string crackpots with IQ below 100 who control academia. Crackpot Garrett Lisi does not understand the difference between fermions and bosons! Cranks with their 'theories of everything' who know less than 1% what I do and whose IQ is 45 below mine! Literally an inferior species! Standard Model has been proven to be a consequence of compactified heterotic string theory back in 1985! Lisi and Smith and Sheppeard and Hossenfelder will NEVER get onto hep-th on arXiv! 4 simultaneous 24 hour Days within only 1 rotation of 4 quadrant Earth! They are EDUCATED EVIL and STUPID! STUPID STUPID!

I can only bow in humble admiration to the author of the dada engine script that wrote this.
(The above was written before I figured out that I need to add a signature. --Jre (talk) 00:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC))

I wrote it all by hand based on Dr Motl's actual comments about Garrett Lisi's paper. Then Motl linked the Uncyclopedia article on his blog, so at least he has a sense of humour ;-) - David Gerard (talk) 18:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Userboxen

Finally got round to making it. So now people know you want them to go ahead and remove marcus comments from your talk page. Should avoid arguments.

Troll
This user likes a troll-free talk page. Revert away!

HTH. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 20:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Whatever happened to "user talk pages are community property"? I dislike this ugly trend. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
You did, on the Lanced Jitters and then above (where you considered being provably factually wrong and gratuitously abusive in the defence of ego liberty was no vice) - David Gerard (talk) 00:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I just skimmed most of what is above. You have a lot of people complaining about the way you do this. ħumanUser talk:Human 23:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Idiot number 57

Their post doesn't look much like trolling to me. Though I would like to know what they are talking about in it. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 19:27, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Apparently, David likes to delete anything he doesn't like from his user talk page. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Trouble is, "reasonable" is a little subjective, and we can only "discuss" it post hoc, otherwise there's no point. But a good enough rule of thumb is that if there is any of this post hoc controversy, the edit probably wasn't worth reverting. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 11:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandal binning IP proxies

Pointless if it's just going to switch to another proxy. Punky Your mental puke relief 18:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Cut it out. You're fuelling a situation that you won't be able to control, not to mention flooding recent changes with blocks and bin events that are going to do nothing precisely because all you are doing is blocking quickly and easily changeable proxies. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 18:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

You hate vandal binning, P-Foster hates blocking and wants vandal binning. As such, I offer both.
And it's not a proxy - it's a DHCP IP. That's why the three-minute pause while he reboots his modem - David Gerard (talk) 18:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but every time he restarts his modem, he's jacking off over the power trip. It's the disruption and the challenge of causing and most freaks crave. The more you make it difficult (and to be fair, you cannot make it difficult enough for them to stop bothering) the bigger the challenge, the bigger the attention, the bigger the thrill - thus extra motive for continuing. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 18:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
That is, of course, one theory. As far as I can tell, every time he restarts his modem he gets closer to blowing a gasket - David Gerard (talk) 19:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
The blocking may be effective, but I agree that binning seems redundant. MC obviously has a lot of time on his hands, and even with binning he'll just reboot his modem and move to the next one. It may be time to revisit our approach to him. If reverting and blocking IPs for an hour, the only way to do it without letting him get his public jollies would presumably to shift to the bot group. Maybe we should just leave his stuff, and only remove it or block if he's actually damaging content? All just theories, since we can't really be sure which part of this little game really makes him happy. Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 19:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
MC doesn't have that much time on his hands - Sundays appear the only time he can reboot the family modem multiple times in an hour without pissing off the rest of the house - David Gerard (talk) 19:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
He'll run out of addresses eventually. I noticed a few weeks ago that he was being forced to reuse IPs which had already been binned. EddyP (talk) 19:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
(EC)By playing the game at all, and the shitty thing is that this mini meta-conversation on the subject also counts, you're giving him the jollies. It's pretty textbook attention seeking behaviour. They want the controversy, they actively crave it and demand it to be on them all the time. It's the same motivation that gets right-wing talk radio hosts up in arms about the "liberal media" even when they're clearly the dominant force, they want hte persecution and extra attention that goes with it. The trick is maintaining control over the situation, which means actively denying them what they want, which is the attention. This means ignoring it, or acknowledging it in a very dry, quite calm manner, you know "that's nice, dear" and move on. This keeps the group at large in control because it's then forcing them to start pushing the buttons when they're not prepared for it; and as their outbursts get gradually more violent, in an effort for the attention, the responses get calmer and calmer. Of course, with nuances of voice this is much easier, you can quite happily go on and not need to control the specific language "you're a motherfucking facist cunts fucking fucker twat ballsack!!!!11" - "oh, that's nice, deary, thanks for reminding me that I haven't fucked my mother for a while" (you can see that this gets their goat in a calm, nonchalant voice, but the effect is lost in text, which does leave us at a disadvantage). At the moment, we're not the ones in control, and we never will be, because it's far too easy for one stupid nugget to give in and set the cycle up again. This is similar to parenting, the kid will play the parents off each other, crying to daddy if mummy says no and vice versa, and if there's not a united front presented, the cracks can be exploited. We're seeing the same pattern, can't get the attention they want from user A, user B will always be around to block and toy with. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 19:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
IMO, though, if we stop responding to his 'you are all fascists' posts, he'll simply move into outright vandalism and force a response. EddyP (talk) 19:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes, as I said, it's escalation in order to get the attention back. The trick is for us to control the escalation. So you do respond, rather than revert or block, but respond in a neutral way. That starves off the "reward" and forces them to start upping their bait, which would include active vandalism of the mainspace, perhaps. Simultaneously, the care factor in the response goes down. That said, we're stuck in a pretty bad habit, everyone wants to have their little dig, their little say, do the ME ME ME I'M IMPORTANT stunt too, whereas in the care-factor-zero method, you'd have just one person respond, and no one else once one response has been given - and then anyone below just echoes the same thing down the chain. Starves off any sense of reward for trouble making far quicker than attention grabbing blocks, reverts and swearing. It's sad that we would have to resort to this sort of dog training idea on an actual human being, especially as I think they probably have very low social intelligence (although at least well-Googled enough to slot into RW's mindset, when it does want to be serious), and maybe a very serious abandonment/distance issue, leading them to seek a form of validation elsewhere through more destructive means. It's quite sad really, and I should put them down much more. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 19:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Chicken poop

RationalWiki:Chicken coop#David Gerard -- Nx / talk 20:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Good to see you've changed your mind [1][2] about participating in the community when you have a concern. Welcome! - David Gerard (talk) 20:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not holing my breath RationalWiki:Chicken coop/Archive9#David Gerard -- Nx / talk 20:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Well done! You'll get to feel vindicated either way. It's obvious that the next thing you need to do is invoke to LJ to change process so that you get the result you damn well think you should get, instead of the response people actually give - David Gerard (talk) 20:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
The response people actually give? People are getting annoyed by your power trips David. -- Nx / talk 20:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually I'm getting annoyed by MC, but sure. EddyP (talk) 20:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

You got to listen to other people too

David Gerard, David Gerard
the self-appointed guard
of trolls.

He wants to be in control
Being a dick is his only goal

He's just a conceited bully
a little immature baby
thin-skinned
and trying to fly upwind
against everyone

We know who you are
and believe us, you're not a tzar

Let us live
try to forgive
calm down
stop being a clown
cos noone's gonna crown
you
to be the king of Rationalwiki

--Idiot number 59 (talk) 19:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

What do you think about my poetry writing skills? --Idiot number 57 (talk) 18:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Idiot, Idiot, number 59
He thinks that he's so divine.
He writes a poem to David Gerard
But honestly, it's no better than lard.

He wants to see what David thinks of it,
So let me jump in! It reads like shit.
Find better things to do, I say!
For your poems bring to me dismay.

~SuperHamster Talk 19:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that was far worse than mine. You're just jealous because I didn't dedicate my poem to you. --Idiot number 58 (talk) 20:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I would consider it a great privilege to not have a poem dedicated to me that comes from the hands of someone like you. ~SuperHamster Talk 20:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I quit this conversation. This is no battle of wits between you and me. I never pick on an unarmed man. --Idiot number 58 (talk) 20:49, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Good, because I was about to go all Assfly on you by blocking you, inserting that last word, and claiming my victory oh-so-proudly. The Schlafly Way is the Only Way.™ ~SuperHamster Talk 20:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi

I responded to your question on my talk page and now have come here to tell you about it. Why I didn't come here to respond first, who know. Icewedge (talk) 07:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

100 letters or less

I thought Twitter was 140 characters? Anyway, this is, with spaces, exactly 100.

"I will not apologise for being an atheist “activist” until the death penalty for apostasy is history"

But this is 127 characters.

"Until the death penalty for apostasy is consigned to the history books, I make no apologies for being an "activist" for atheism"

Scarlet A.pngpathetic 21:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

http://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/19857884983 - let's see if it goes viral - David Gerard (talk) 21:56, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I doubt it... Scarlet A.pngpathetic 22:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
My Facebook loved it ;-) - David Gerard (talk) 00:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Considering you are a Stalinist bastard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWiY1i4E21k&feature=related 86.40.205.7 (talk) 23:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Talking too much

Hi David - thanks! I'll take that as a compliment. I don't have a mop in one hand, but do have a remote. Watching Family Guy right now (it is Sunday night). I discovered RationalWiki fairly recently. Lonius (talk) 22:57, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

PS - I couldn't have said it better -- quoting you, "I try to keep the arsehole side under control. Most of the time." It's a tough battle. Lonius (talk) 23:07, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Some advice

I hope [this] will help you in your personal struggle to understand why you are an obese virgin who is universally despised. 86.40.204.123 (talk) 17:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

A thanks.

I think you do a damn fine job around here and make some valuable contributions. Never mind anyone else, RW is lucky to have you around. AceX-102 22:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

While I disagree with you on an administrative level, you do deserve a pat on the back as a contributor from the RationalWiki Pat-On-The-Back Society. So here you go: Clapping.gif AnarchoGoon Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living 02:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I'll see how long my personal attention span lasts ;-p - David Gerard (talk) 09:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Ben Best

Since you, obviously, seem to be knowledgeable about cryonics and (obviously) managed to attract Ben Best to roam about RationalWiki, I was just curious if you have seen any of his video on youtube? Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 02:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm knowledgeable about it because I researched it for Cryonics! Haven't seen any of his videos ... does he call his detractors Hitler much? - David Gerard (talk) 09:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Not really. Mostly, he just talks in a monotone about how much he can'[t wait to start reanimating life once science helps his pocketbook a little more. After that, it's usually too boring to continue to watch, but I can give you links if you want to try to watch them yourself. Punky Your mental puke relief 00:48, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

"use your unblocked account"

David, please show me where in our rules that is says that a sysop has the right to tell any user what account he or she should use. I know you're relatively new, but socking up is actually something of a tradition here at RW. maybe you could review the relevant section in the sysop's guide and in the community standards before continuing your little feud with one user. Thanks. P-Foster (talk) 16:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

What, how, unanswered question? Tiatton of (talk) 07:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Douchebag

God you are insufferable... I'm not MC. Please to unblock and fuck off. 193.200.150.125 (talk) 16:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

"Please to unblock and fuck off" is definitely the most convincing request I've had this week. I'll just hop to it right away - David Gerard (talk) 16:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Considering one of the only things you've ever said to me was "fuck off, MC", how did you expect me to react? Are you going to undo your block or what? 193.200.150.82 (talk) 16:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure someone will care to shortly, demonstrating your convincing case - David Gerard (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, because your case is so convincing. MC has a habbit of hanging out at TWIGO:CP? What a prick...you're twice the TK Huw will ever be. 193.200.150.137 (talk) 16:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Ask nicely and someone might seriously consider it. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 16:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Why do I have to be nice to this prick? He blocked me because of his suspicion of me being MC (which I'm not) since I got snarky with Susan (who hasn't done that?) on TWIGO:CP (a page MC never edits) as user Occasionaluse (references User:Neveruse. What the fuck happened to this place? 193.200.150.82 (talk) 16:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
http://193.200.150.82 is of course Anonymouse.org. Thanks and don't come back again! - David Gerard (talk) 16:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
So fucking what if I was using Anonymouse? What I have done to get banned? Susan perceived I was being rude as opposed to snarky? Or maybe I'm being a dick? So ban me? Is that the way things work around here now? 207.67.17.45 (talk) 16:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
David, why are you treating a new user is such a prickish fashion? You blocked them for nine hours for engaging in a "fuck off" fest with another user who did not complain? I don't think you really get how this place works. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:51, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
New users must also love watching trolls abuse the shit out of people non-stop. AceX-102 02:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Losing bits of SVGs

I've noticed similar effects on SVGs, try ungrouping it all and reuploading. If that doesn't work try grouping it as one group. It's worked for nme before. 23:02, 7 August 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast

Or I could just say "buggrit" and leave the PNG as the live version, as Armondikov is presently fiddling with ;-) The real answer is that RationalWiki is running a not so fresh version of rsvg, presumably the one that came with the Linux it's running on, and that a fresh enough one might require putting it in by hand. Bah. *waves* - David Gerard (talk) 23:06, 7 August 2010 (UTC)