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Omphaloskepsis

my edits
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This doesn't happen enough

So, thanks for all that you do for this site, what with all of your charts and statistics, they really help to put things in perspective. Aboriginal Noise What the hell is that thing? 23:24, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your appreciation - flattery is my main driving force, so this is most welcomed :-) larronsicut fur in nocte 10:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey! The truth isn't flattery. Your charts & stuff help visualising stuff we know but can't prove. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 10:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Lagrange the Insignificant

Remember the archive of old revisions I recently mentioned on the WIGO talk? Wouldnt' it be about time someone did a Gallery of Baleeted Articles? I could do the coding but I can't seem to come up with of a cool name. Mountain Blue 17:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Very interesting idea! And about the name : If you build it, he it will come larronsicut fur in nocte 20:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm saving the wiki source text instead of the final HTML for the revisions I'm archiving, for reasons of economy and parseability, so we're going to need a compiler of sorts. Do we attempt to emulate the original look and feel or do we roll our own? Before anybody does any actual work we should probably run this idea by a few people to see if there is any kind of demand for this graveyard. (Graveyard, hm...) Mountain Blue 23:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think that the original look is needed - so, a wiki should be ideal to display the wiki source text - without further need for conversion...
How many articles are we talking about? Could you just show one or two prime examples for starters?
larronsicut fur in nocte 10:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
We might want to automagically remove redlinks in the originals that would never be articles here? ħumanUser talk:Human 02:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
We might. I don't know how many articles we are talking about because I have no idea how many article disappearances are lulzy enough to be worth documenting in this way. This graveyard thing was just a spontaneous idea that Leisure Graph Larry's remark regarding the shitcanning of Mr Lagrange gave me. I'd appreciate suggestions. Mountain Blue 04:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Fine with me to try....

I have Ed's complete proxy on these matters, but rarely exercise it. So I will speak with him about this tomorrow. Shoot me an email, and we can discuss details. I assume you can contact me through this wiki or already have my hotmail address. --TK/MyTalkRW User #45 07:55, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Great - but what details are there left to discuss? You can talk with Ed Poor, and he'll say yes or no - or perhaps I want to have a writing plan.
Thanks for your effort
larronsicut fur in nocte 08:32, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
(But out of sheer curiosity, I sent you a mail...) larronsicut fur in nocte 23:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Unless you are "MuchCheaperViagra" I have nothing from you, LArron. Perhaps you have an ersatz email address for me? Try sending through this wiki. --TK/MyTalkRW User #45 23:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
web.de gets often filtered as spam... larronsicut fur in nocte 00:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I got it, but you sent to an address I no longer use much, as I have changed my email here back to my main one. --TK/MyTalkRW User #45 01:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Have you saved your settings after changing your email in preferences? I just replied to your mail from Mar 19, 2010, as sent via RationalWiki. larronsicut fur in nocte 06:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Nothing yet, but I am receiving the RW notices of changes to my talk page, so something must be working! Ed unblocked your account, and I got a copy of that email letting you know. --TK/MyTalkRW User #45 06:52, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

OOPS!

What happens at Wikipedia ... Doc Holiday (talk) 10:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

‎Game player, feels free to misrepresent himself, and I no longer have confidence he has any integrity.
These block reasons seem to apply better to TK than to me:
  • Game player: What games?
  • feels free to misrepresent himself: yep, by keeping my identity the same in all wikis and blogs
  • I no longer have confidence he has any integrity: because I don't like conversations behind closed doors?
So, future home-schoolers will have to try to find a point with is equidistant on average from other points. Poor pupils... larronsicut fur in nocte 12:51, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I am not a good writer like you...

...but do you want me to make a nav box for your Dembski articles? - π 12:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, that's a very nice thought! larronsicut fur in nocte 12:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I could work on the colours a bit. - π 12:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Great, and I lol-ed when I read the title: but it should be a little be less snarky, as I correspond with some of the authors... larronsicut fur in nocte 12:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

pubic hair loss

My robsmith ban was going to be 13.7 billion years, but couldn't seem to do it lol Tweety (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

obviously, 6000 years (189 341 712 000 sec) are enough! But he isn't a sysop any longer, so show mercy - or be serious :-) larronsicut fur in nocte 22:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Errata

This should be interesting...assume he doesn't run away. Excellent work. tmtoulouse 08:46, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm waiting for my comments at Uncommon Descent to make it through the moderation. larronsicut fur in nocte 09:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


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DiEb

04/08/2010

1:20 am

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Dear Dr. Dembski, it’s Skitt’s law which states something like “any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself”. So, while I’m confident that my list is correct, there may be an error in it. But perhaps you could correct it, and we’ll converge to an ultimately error-free version of the paper?

The format of UncommonDescent doesn’t allow for a display of mathematical expressions, so I put the list here.

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DiEb

04/08/2010

3:17 am

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Dear Dr. Dembski,

essentially, it’s the same list I sent to you (info AT designinference.com) and Robert Marks (Robert_Marks AT baylor.edu) in an (unanswered) email on Oct 17, 2009. How time flies! Or as you put it Your concerns will get addressed in due course.

larronsicut fur in nocte 09:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Help

*Puppy eyes* EddyP (talk) 15:19, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I hope I found the right ones... larronsicut fur in nocte 17:12, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks very much! EddyP (talk) 18:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

A request

Hi, LArron. A request has been made (by me) for an update of the info and graphs on Conservapedia:This site is growing rapidly! (which is woefully dated) and I was told you were the person to see. I mean, I'd do it myself but this dang fancypants typewriter with that there glowin' screen don't get them numbers all right the way I wants them! Thank you, kindly. DickTurpis (talk)

You are right: It is rather dated... I'll look into it, but it may take a couple of days. larronsicut fur in nocte 06:04, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
To get some better data on en.wikipedia.org, I asked for help. I hope, I'll get an answer soon. larronsicut fur in nocte 12:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

GUI

Dear Sir or Madam,

Do you use a GUI for R?

Thank you for your time, 13:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

No, generally not: Never found a decent one (but I didn't look that hard). A while ago, I tried the plug-in for eclipse, but I'm faster using just a standard text editor.

OMG

Dear Sir or Madam,

You are awesome.

Thank you for your time, 13:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I want approve on it, I think polite post. 89.132.239.149 (talk) 13:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Collapsible

I'd have done that but I thought it might interfere with pibot archiving. Forgot it was manually archived. 23:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC) — Unsigned, by: SusanG / talk / contribs

no problem! Frankly, I was surprised how long that wigo got... larronsicut fur in nocte 08:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Pibot & the collapsible thing screwed up the Saloon Bar formatting, so it was wise to be wary.  Lily Inspirate me. 08:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Article matrix

Hi LArron! I note that you're a fan of generating visualisations of CP's various exploits, so I was wondering if you'd be interested in creating one for the Conservapedia:Article matrix - namely, an animation showing the matrix being populated (and depopulated!) over the time of CPs existence... i think that could be quite fun. Thoughts? :D ONE / TALK 13:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
The Conservapedia:Article matrix has escaped my attention - until now :-) The whole thing looks quite promising, I'll have a closer look at it.
larronsicut fur in nocte 13:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Article network

Is there any easy way to map out an articles "network"? For example, miracle and improbable things happen both link to Littlewood's law. In turn, 30-ish articles link to miracle and 8 articles link to improbable things happen. I made this using "what links here" and freemind, but to map out further would take lots of work. I have no particular reason why Littlewood's law other than I wrote it. Sterile attorney 14:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Littlewoodnetwork.jpeg

Conservative words

You need to take a break buddy, it's taking over you! DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 20:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

That was indeed a little bit troublesome: I started to doubt myself... When I applied my little program which generates some statistics on the words, I had problems to get Andy's numbers. Of course, I thought it was me, or the import of the data - in earlier versions I had dropped words which weren't clearly dated. I imported the words in a couple of ways, started recounts (I had a Florida-feeling :-) as I thought that no one would make such a basic mistake (but if one does, you have to make sure that your critique is correct).
And I think it is very irritating: there I was, having done all the stats on the words, trying to keep it as simple as possible, and then, the real answer to

Liberals doubt our observed doubling per century for these words, yet every layer reproves the remarkable growth pattern. Still looking for 6 more. Can any liberals disprove the pattern?

is even simpler:

Yes, any liberal who can count up to 160.

larronsicut fur in nocte 20:57, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Citizendium

Your graphs on CZ are getting lots of pokes around the blogosphere, and Larry Sanger himself is running around to various blogs and websites crying "its all a lie!" Any chance on updating article creation/active users? Thanks for your work! tmtoulouse 17:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

LS running around? Links? --ZooGuard (talk) 17:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
[1] [2]. tmtoulouse 17:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Is that actually Sanger responding just below David Gerard? Is it just me or is he sounding a little Schlafly-esque? He practically said "this site is growing rapidly, deny this and lose all credibility". Scarlet A.pnggnostic 17:55, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I am 97 percent certain it is Sanger in both posts. I liked the one at Harvard Law that ended with a rant about child pornography. tmtoulouse 17:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
There's something very odd if it is him. He's claiming that WP's "verified article" output is zero; but of course it is, WP doesn't do "verified articles". You may as well criticise my research group for not publishing psychology articles by that logic. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 18:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Well now that you bring it up, I do think you haven't fully appreciated the role of self-actualization of protons in NMR signal processing. Larry is an odd guy, when he first started his campaign to be enshrine himself as co-founder of WP his monologing often impressed me as somewhat childish. tmtoulouse 18:06, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

@trent: CZ has a problem with its database: when doing an api-query which includes a tag with a timestamp, it won't process it. I tried to get them to fix it - and it seemed that they got it working for a while - but now, the old problems are back. I had thought about a round-a-bout, but wanted to realize it only when there was some interest in CZ. As there is now, I'll provide you with new pics - though it may take some time :-) larronsicut fur in nocte 18:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Cheers, I appreciate it. I saw the thread where you were asking for assistance, they were pretty dismissive. But with the site frequently being barely usable I would guess they are strapped for technical assistance. tmtoulouse 18:30, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Along with the NIH that made them run Postgres just because WMF uses MySQL (and, oh yeah, the MediaWiki software is MASSIVELY TWEAKED FOR MYSQL ALL THROUGH), they hacked up their version of MediaWiki in various odd ways. So it's unsurprising that (a) basic stuff doesn't work properly (b) they have no-one left who could fix it. (Compare CP.) They have recently on the forums spoken of the need to get back to core MW so they can get some useful extensions in place, so there's signs of sanity on the NIH front - David Gerard (talk) 00:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

The Harvard Law blog is written by metasj, aka Samuel J. Klein, longtime Wikimedian and now WMF board member. So obviously liberal deceit - David Gerard (talk) 23:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and CZ has half the editor traffic of RationalWiki. So Trent, if they really can't afford about $3/mo each to fund their hobby, the RWF could offer them somewhere to play.

Or they could go to Wikia.

(*cough*) - David Gerard (talk) 23:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I just looked up the Alexa stats. We're about on par with CZ with reach, slightly lower but we seem to have had a boost since the change from .com to .org. But CZ is far higher on most other stats and is showing an rapid increase over the last few weeks on things like pageviews/user - but a corresponding drop on search%. Most of these are well above the usual noise. Its rank hasn't changed though. Does this point to more frequent visits by its core members rather than an increase in participants? Scarlet A.pnggnostic 02:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
They, like we, are so down in the noise that you can't get anything from the numbers Alexa has. So it could be that one of them installed the Alexa toolbar deliberately (I wonder if Ken has done this yet), or it could be they have one reader out there, or it could be sunspots, or it could be friggin' magnets - David Gerard (talk) 07:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Instead of the elegant queries of the <api>, I had to use <html>. There are quite a few disadvantages to it, e.g.,

  • bigger overhead, i.e., more traffic, greater files, more time needed to gather data etc.
  • cumbersome syntax: more error-prone

But now, it's done and I'll add a list of pics to the talk-page of Citizendium, perhaps they can be integrated somehow in the article. larronsicut fur in nocte 07:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

CP user contribs

Hi LArron,

Do you have a tool which extracts a user's contribs and converts the detail into a spreadsheet? I'd love to play around with Ken's contrib stats. Thanks! ONE / TALK 18:54, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I've got a zoo of undocumented perl scripts which I run ~once a month: I generate a list of the users and then look up their contribution using the api CP provides by queries like

http://conservapedia.com/api.php?action=query&list=usercontribs&ucuser=Conservative&uclimit=5

"action" => "query"
"list" => "usercontrib"
"ucuser" =>"Conservative"
"uclimit" => 5 (max. 500)

That gives you

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<api>
  <query>
    <usercontribs>
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="17795" revid="799275" ns="0" title="Debate:Does History Matter?" timestamp="2010-07-30T05:55:00Z" top="" comment="/* Yes it matters - Christianity makes plenty of important historical claims. */" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="17795" revid="799274" ns="0" title="Debate:Does History Matter?" timestamp="2010-07-30T05:54:26Z" comment="/* = Yes it matters - Christianity makes plenty of important historical claims. */" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="17795" revid="799273" ns="0" title="Debate:Does History Matter?" timestamp="2010-07-30T05:54:10Z" comment="/* The History of a People is a Macrocosm of the History of the Person */" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="104536" revid="799272" ns="0" title="Satires of atheism" timestamp="2010-07-30T05:43:12Z" top="" comment="/* Postscript */" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="104543" revid="799271" ns="0" title="Essay: Richard Dawkins&#039; lack of appeal to the Asian woman audience" timestamp="2010-07-30T05:42:01Z" top="" comment="" />
    </usercontribs>
  </query>
  <query-continue>
    <usercontribs ucstart="2010-07-30T00:54:04Z" />
  </query-continue>
</api>

and you can iterate over ucstart:

"action" => "query"
"list" => "usercontrib"
"ucuser" =>"Conservative"
"uclimit" => 5 (max. 500)
"ucstart"=> "2010-07-30T00:54:04Z"
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<api>
  <query>
    <usercontribs>
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="104569" revid="799196" ns="2" title="User:Conservative" timestamp="2010-07-30T00:54:04Z" top="" comment="/* Movies and Film clips */" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="104569" revid="799195" ns="2" title="User:Conservative" timestamp="2010-07-30T00:52:25Z" minor="" comment="Protected &quot;[[User:Conservative]]&quot; ([edit=sysop] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite))" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="104569" revid="799194" ns="2" title="User:Conservative" timestamp="2010-07-30T00:52:07Z" new="" comment="enemy below added - German dispirited sailors  making noise due to depth charges raining down on them trying to cheer themselves up" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="104379" revid="799190" ns="0" title="Essay: The question atheists fear" timestamp="2010-07-30T00:39:12Z" top="" comment="" />
      <item user="Conservative" pageid="104473" revid="799189" ns="0" title="Essay: Does Richard Dawkins have machismo?" timestamp="2010-07-30T00:35:04Z" top="" comment="/* Quick note */" />
    </usercontribs>
  </query>
  <query-continue>
    <usercontribs ucstart="2010-07-30T00:19:15Z" />
  </query-continue>
</api>

So, it's all pretty straightforward... larronsicut fur in nocte 07:03, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I didn't understand any of that, but it did help me find this. Fucking nuts even rabid squirrels wouldn't touch. ħumanUser talk:Human 07:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Oops! I forgot I asked about this. Thanks for the response :) Sadly I'm an absolutely programming newbie - what would I need to do to run one of these scripts? Do I need some sort of perl application to run it in? Do I need to have Conservapedia open in my browser? (I'm sure these questions come across as phenomenally stupid, but that just proves my newbiness) ONE / TALK 15:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Ignore my shit, I made the idiot mistake of Schlafly-skimming your post :P Thanks for the help! ONE / TALK 15:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Image request

Could we please have one of your purty pictures of Citizendium's average word count per day? [3] That's broken down by month; with the broken API, I suspect it would be srs pain to extract each day's actual count. Apparently they get their numbers from analysing the database dump - David Gerard (talk) 17:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a similar system, it's convenient for their great amount of data..
Did you have something like this in mind? It's not much - anyone with access to excel (or a similar program) could/should do it:
Total number of words
Error creating thumbnail: File missing
Words per day
Clusters
Monthly increase in clusters
Median length of clusters
Enjoy! larronsicut fur in nocte 21:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh, just excel? I could probably turn that up with small effort ;-)
We now have a ton of nice infographics making points nicely. I've done the layout as a gallery floated right, which is not ideal but not horrible. Trouble is how to fit seven (and counting) images.
The other point: I'm entirely unclear on WTF a "cluster" is as opposed to a "lemma"/stub and how each relates to the "article count" and the number of pages in mainspace. Are we sure we're comparing apples to apples? - David Gerard (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

RonLar

I'd be happy to lend you one of my IP addresses if you need one. mb 06:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice offer - for the moment, RonLar is trying something else. larronsicut fur in nocte 12:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Good luck, as they say, with that. Feel free to msg me if you change your mind ;) mb 15:57, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
No luck at all, I'm afraid (see here) larronsicut fur in nocte 16:02, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

pretty, pretty please

Good sir, please share with us some of the R that makes your wonderful charts tick. I've always been dying to see. Occasionaluse (talk) 00:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

how do you suppose andy trues up creation and conservation of mass

If nothing can create or destroy matter, and God created all the matter ever with out violating the laws of physics, then how did he do it? --Opcn (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I've not the slightest idea... larronsicut fur in nocte 05:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

wikiFactor: Two comments

(copied from Talk:WikiFactor)

Dear LArron, I should like to make two comments:

1) You say "Obviously, this definition doesn't work...". Could you explain why?
2) You also say "...his eponymous paper"; I would not go as far as to say eponymous, after all, it is not called the McBrideFactor. Actually, at the time I would have liked to have called it the wiki-index, in line with the h-index, but there is a web site known as wikiIndex (where I occasionally lend a hand as an administrator) so I settled for wikiFactor.

All the best, --Carl McBride (talk) 10:48, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

corrected at WikiFactor/Talk:WikiFactor. Thanks for the comments - larronsicut fur in nocte 18:34, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Request

Hello! Can I be cheeky and ask -if at all possible - if you can please update the "blocking the world" graphs. They're about a year old and it'll be interesting to see just how much TK has left unblocked. Tx! --PsyGremlinRunāt! 13:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Also you haven't updated the active users yet. Don't forget to add me and Blue (formally Lyra)! --Sir Onion Kneel before my vegetable might! 12:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

At the moment, I'm enjoying my holidays - so the updates have to wait for a couple of days. larronsicut fur in nocte 21:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm back :-)
larronsicut fur in nocte 09:11, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Skillful work is never done, my request is an update to Citizendium/Active users now that the charter is passed and they have over a dozen positions of management to fill I am curious how many active users there are relative to elected positions open. tmtoulouse 14:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Done! larronsicut fur in nocte 15:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

An ID paper (in a philosophy journal?)

Thought you might take an interest. The author of the paper seems to be a truther too; I can't be sure but his blog strongly suggests it. --Quantheory (talk) 14:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you: From a first glance, it looks like an excellent example of an ID research paper :-) Unfortunately I haven't had any time yet to take a closer look, but I'll do so over the next days.
larronsicut fur in nocte 17:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

You mentioned you are banned from reading CP

Ever tried tor + proxy auto-config? No slowdowns for the other sites (and if other sites needs tor like once, there are always the tor button to fall back on) and CP still is readable (well, most of the time, there are some tor relays which are blocked I believe, but get new identity from <whatever the controlling software is called in your OS> should be easy enough I think) [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Nice idea, thanks. At the moment, I'm using tor for my bots, and sites like hidemyass for direct visits.
larronsicut fur in nocte 08:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Question

Do you need any help with all your charts and stuff? Somebody mentioned that you might, and I might need a tutorial. If not, give me a shout if you change your mind. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 23:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

  1. Thanks for your kind offer
  2. I try to update our stats on RationalWiki:Active users and Conservapedia:Active users during the first days of a months - and generally, I'm successful :-)
  3. Sorry, there is no tutorial at hand, just a couple of clumsy perl and R scripts...
larronsicut fur in nocte 07:56, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Dembski at it again

FYI. Although, you probably already knew that. sterile attorney 01:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - I've seen it: I visit Uncommon Descent regularly. Though contributing to this blog is quite a pain: I'm under moderation, and my comments are delayed for one or two days. On a lively thread, they are then already buried under tons of material by the regulars... larronsicut fur in nocte 10:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I used to follow it more regularly, but it frustrates me too much. I try to look only once a week at there, Todd Wood's blog, and Evolution News and Views, and a few others. sterile attorney 01:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
At UD, I ignore any post by Denise O'Leary - and any comment of Kairosfocus and BornAgain77. That helps. My moniker over there is DiEb - the same which I use at PandasThumb/AntiEvolution. That may be a reason that I have to wait so long to get my comments through (otoh, Dembski et al. just don't like me :-)
I can't stand Evolution News, so I just look at the the sensuous curmudgeon's rehashed versions.
larronsicut fur in nocte 11:33, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

New request

So Citizendium is now saying they need 350-500gb of space for hosting. That is huge. Are their articles really that many more/larger than ours? Is it edit history? Or is something else going on? To begin to figure that out is there a way to get data that shows both the size of the page and the number of edits it has had? Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

At the moment, I can give you only the data for their namespace main: excluding redirects, but including sub-pages, there are some 75,000 pages in this namespace. These tend to be quite long and I estimate the space the current revisions need to be 65GByte.
(RationalWiki has less than 5000 articles in main - their current revisions adding up to a little bit over 7GByte.does this sound right? That's not a good comparison, as our longest pages are not in the main space)
I'll be able to say something about the revisions later on.
I can't say anything about deleted pages: didn't they start as a fork of wikipedia, and then got rid of the legacy? I don't know... But this would occupy a lot of space..
larronsicut fur in nocte 18:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC)