User talk:ADefenceOfChristianity

Since I am about to be banned, I claim VICTORY!! As I have stated again and again, when someone has to start blocking you when you start making good points it means you have won the debate! When I start giving proof that atheism and evolutionism is dumb all of you guys did was mockery and blocking since you don't have any good refutation! As such on behalf of God and Jesus Christ I claim VICTORY, VICTORY, VICTORY!! This is the one and only ADefenceOfChristianity, signing off. Hasta la vista, baby! Please don't forget to visit my Church!
 * Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Ken. Plutocow (talk) 00:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * All this for a Ken sock? Andrew5 mobile (talk) 10:37, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, at least now nobody can use that talking point that Ken wasn't banned with a two thirds vote. Plutocow (talk) 18:32, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Doesn't act like Ken. 20:10, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I think this was Ken’s best attempt to create well, what we call on Wikipedia, a good hand bad had scenario. He is trying to set up immediate sock accounts and stick to a long term account which actually happens often on Wikipedia. ADOC wasn’t very good at this but still, he is trying to disguise the fact he is Ken by acting differently. I hope you understand. By the way, this section should be moved further down. It shouldn’t be deleted because (1) ADOC can’t edit here anyways and (2) there is actual useful info but I can’t move it (or at least it’s too hard to), while I’m on mobile. If you’re wondering why I edit on mobile so much it’s because I frequently don’t have access to a computer, either when I’m walking (like I am right now), I’m on a bus or in a car or whatnot. Like, all my edits before 7:15 am local time will be on mobile. Andrew5 mobile (talk) 21:25, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, the above paragraph pretty much gives it away. Plutocow (talk) 21:27, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

BLOCKED by LeftyGreenMario
why did you block me? Are you afraid of the truth?! Got the shimmies, knowing of the Lord? Afraid, eh, so you had to silence me? I will never block any of your edits, so why do you do it to me then? "Turn the other cheek" quoth Jesus.

While I wait for the block to run out, I think you need to read a favourite passage of mines from Scripture.

Pslam 14 The fool

To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.

1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord.

5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.

6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the Lord is his refuge.

7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the Lord bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad. &mdash; Unsigned, by: ADefenceOfChristianity / talk / contribs

Does the Bible have anything to offer atheists?
Hey, you've made a great question. Would you like to discuss about the Bible here? &mdash; Unsigned, by: ADefenceOfChristianity / talk / contribs

I'M BACK
Yeah!!!!



Bongolian (talk) 07:32, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok. 13:42, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * What? ADefenceOfChristianity (talk) 05:07, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

So what's going to happen to me?
Am I about to get permabanned?
 * That eventuality is possible. If you think you shouldn't this is your place to make your case. 00:52, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You are permabanned for now, but there is a thread at ATIM's talk page. If you want to defend yourself without trolling, do so here. --Andrew5 (talk) 01:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Why am I being permabanned? I believe I have done nothing wrong. Can someone please get me out of the vandalbin? Why do people think I am a vandal? I have never created spam nor have intentionally B L A N K E D pages. I have never moved or changed people's comments. Have a look through my contributions!
 * I did this last night at the request of someone else. This block has absolutely nothing to do with vandal binning or the ATIM case. I want an explanation on why you thought it appropriate to send another editor the same email 4 times in one minute. IDK if anyone else here can see this, but your block has email disabled for a reason. -- Techpriest (talk) 09:25, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If you feel you are being treated unfairly and it is not going to stop, contribute to Christian wikis such as these Christian wikis: List of Christian wikis. PineForest (talk) 10:01, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I can carry over your incomplete statement but it may hurt your case.--Andrew5 (talk) 11:18, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

My case
Here is my case. This will be quite long however since I have vandalbinned, I have no choice but to place a wall of text. Please take your time to read through this since I have taken a huge amount of time on this.

Basically the gist is '''RationalWiki is overrun by bullies and pseduo-kings who mock bully and abuse their powers aganist those who disagree with them. It is a site dedicated not to rationality but irrationality!'''

According to this website,it is dedicated for freedom of speech. Yet when I first created this account on this horrible website, I created a challenge for evolutionist in the Saloon Bar (https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Saloon_bar&diff=prev&oldid=2353503). Almost immediatly, instead of engaging into the discussion like rational people do, it was immediatly placed under a trollcollapse (YET WHEN I DID THE SAME THING TO OTHER COMMENTS, PEOPLE CONSTANTLY REMOVED IT). Upset I eventually wrote respectfully to both trolls GrammarCommie and RockfordTheRoe (see https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:ADefenceOfChristianity/Archive1, post "GrammarCommie and RockfordTheRoe"). Were they punished for abusing a poor Christian who wants to help poor souls? NOPE! Got away sotch-free!

I was vandalbinned by both Rockford The Roe and LeftyGreenMario even through I AM NOT A VANDAL. I HAVE NEVER VANDALISED. I HAVE NEVER DONE ANY OF THIS!!!

I have been constantly blocked by LeftyGreenMario for small edits in the mainspace. (One was for evolution https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Evolution&diff=prev&oldid=2353917 and the other atheism https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Atheism&diff=prev&oldid=2361334) What happened to freedom of speech? What about to respectful debate. When did blocking and vandalbinning the correct course of action to debate? Are you so afraid that my points are actually true that you need to revert and block me? Do you actually believe that I am right and afraid of it?! This is what is called "cognitive dissonance" And most of this website reeks of it.

Instead the bullying continue, this time with GrammarCommie and DuceMooslini (who is not gonna lie is probably a fascist) who have blocked me for no bigger reason but to be a bully. DuceMooslini insults (probably coming from an 12-year-old boy) like "I showed your mom my cock last night." I try to show this to LeftyGreenMario but he refused to respond (Archive 1:LeftyGreenMario hypocrisy).

GrammarCommie has ascused me of "moving a comment". Yet when pressed for evidence HE REFUSE TO SHOW. Thus, GrammarCommie has blocked me for no bigger reason than to bully me and the "moving a comment" was just an exuse.

Eventually sickened by the behaviour I did the right thing and took my complaint to GrammarCommie to the ChickenCoop (https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&diff=prev&oldid=2355448) What happened? Did something happened? NOPE. "Don't abuse the coop. Take it to the ATIM! ("You shouldn't do this" post in Archive 1. Said by PanGalacticGargleBlaster) So I did! (https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation&diff=prev&oldid=2355563) What happened? Well Bongolian delete my ATIM post and ban me!

I have also been vandalbinned by LeftyGreenMario even though for the last flipping time "I AM NOT A VANDAL".

I have started at that point to become desperate. Apparently I heard you allowed to have sockpuppets on RationalWiki for some reason so I create a sockpuppet so I can try to get myself out of the vandalbin. Response? BLOCKED (thanks Plutocow). Then, LeftyGreenMario change the block length for 3.14 months! I have read the Community Standards and you're not ALLOWED TO BLOCK SOMEONE FOR THAT LONG WITHOUT A COMMUNITY VOTE! So I wrote an email to LeftyGreenMario and again he refuse to respond back. And here we are now.

As such I ask for the following response:


 * 1) Block GrammarCommie and DuceMooslini and revoke his sysop role for 3.14 weeks for bullying me and harrassment.
 * 2) Block LeftyGreenMario for 3.14 weeks and revoke his sysop role for blocking a user for long without community permission
 * 3) Block Bongolian for 3.14 weeks for removing my post on ATIM and allowing the bullying to happen.
 * 4) Give me a sysop role since apparently everyone who has been at RationalWiki long enough and who is not an obivious vandal will eventually get a sysop role.
 * 5) Allow more opposing viewpoint in science and religious articles to create a fairier balance.
 * 6) GET ME OUT OF THE FLIPPING VANDALBIN BECAUSE I AM NOT A VANDAL!!!!

Thank you very much those who took the time to read through more wall of text. Praise you and the Lord.

--


 * You're not going to be taken seriously if you double down on your behavior and try to get several well-established users banned. You should understand that you're not in a position to be making negotiations. Plutocow (talk) 04:31, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Bullies are bullies no matter if they are "well-established" or not
 * Spamming people's email is bullying, so by your own logic you should be banned. Plutocow (talk) 04:45, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Mama mia, ADefenceOfChristianity, that's a lot of effort you spent for results that's not going to happen. 🍝 05:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)


 * My favorite part is that this apparently took you a huge amount of time. Buck (talk) 06:43, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a lot of guff without actually addressing the reason you are blocked right now. Let me reiterate: you got blocked here because you send a user the same email 4 times in a single minute. This is spam/harassment. I want to know why and whether or not you won't fucking do that shit again. Give me a sastisfactory answer and we can all be on our way. I do not care about your trollcollapses or whiny beef with other people, I just flat out don't want you to spam the inboxes of our users. (Also LOL, you're literally asking for a moderator and several active community members to be blocked, good luck with that). Also your vandal bin sticks because the vandal bin is meant to limit people who rapidly spam the site with their drivel, not because those in it are automatically vandals. -- Techpriest (talk) 10:22, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ADOC, I'm dissapointed in you, regardless if the email spam is true (please, if you did email spam, admit it.) If you want people to start opposing, apologizing for everything is required. Don't just ignore this message, it might be your 1 saving grace. --Andrew5 (talk) 17:17, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * A mod has confirmed your abusive emails, but will give an olive branch if you reply in the next 71 hours sastisfactorily.Andrew5 (talk) 21:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)


 * "lock GrammarCommie and DuceMooslini and revoke his sysop role for 3.14 weeks for bullying me and harrassment." Huh? I literally keep forgetting that you exist. 23:02, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I, for one, support blocking DuceMoosolini. That user is a menace to society. 02:06, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That mom didn't deserve the rooster. 02:18, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

you big baby. Why are you trying so hard to be the victim here? Literally the worst thing I wrote in that email was that you were a sad man. Seriously, I have been mocked, harrasessed and bullied far far worst than this. I know you guys are backing LeftyGreenMario here because you want some reason to block me. He is a massive liar. Why?
 * 1) I have already sent emails to people before and NOBODY HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT
 * 2) I only sent 1 email not 4. HE TRYING TO PRETEND THAT I SENT MORE BUT THIS ISN'T TRUE
 * 3) Seriously if you consider my email harassment then you have a very low bar for what should be considered harrassment.
 * 4) Has anyone actually read my case above? Or is everyone distracted by this manufactroversy?


 * https://i.imgur.com/JolqzrR.png 23:15, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * [edit conflict]Ok, if I was skeptical before I'm not now. Calling someone a "big baby" is extremely immature and childish. As for your first point, did you write them as a "sad man". Second of all, LGM is female, so saying they are a sad man could be construed as transphobia, especially if you sent it to Celeste instead. Third of all, your second point is what TC is trying to defend, but, other mods have confirmed it. Troll email spam is somewhat of a problem, and yes, harassment has a very low bar because harassment is a crime. Finally, we have read your case above...and refuted it, because you acted like a little child, just like you are now. Apologies and acting mature is the only way you will be saved. I'm done here. --Andrew5 (talk) 23:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm cis, so it's not transphobic, but I didn't bother correcting. 23:21, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Calling for well established users to be banned for no good reason when your in the shithouse usually only makes folks want to permaban harder, my little troll. Didn't the troll that was banned around the time this account started teach you anything? PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 23:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Misgendering is still problematic.Andrew5 (talk) 00:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Look, I am sorry I called LeftyGreenMario a man, I didn't know. I thought she was female because she has a male video game character persona, but other than that, she HAS completly overblown her email.

Seriously, could you please take me out of the vandalbin. '''I HAVE STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT I'M AM NOT A VANDAL, I HAVE NEVER VANDALSIED AND NEVER WILL. HAVE A LOOK OF MY CONTRUBTION. '''

LeftyGreenMario has blocked me for 3.14 months WITHOUT CHARGE WHICH IS AGANIST THE COMMUNITY STANDARD AND THEN TRIED TO BLOCK ME INDEFINITLY! LeftyGreenMario is the harasser here not me! I ask that you block LeftyGreenMario, GrammarCommie, DuceMooslini and Bongolian for harassment. They have contributed much pain to me. Please can someone read my case above. I have done nothing wrong. I have never used foul language never called anyone worst than "sad man" or "big baby".

Does anyone remember when DuceMooslini wrote insults to me like a 12 year old? Why ISN'T he banned?
 * Ugh, listen, you're in the vandalbin not because you're a vandal, but because you're a troll and we need to control you. What LGM did did violate the CS so I started a vote which, is polling 16-1 in favor to ban you with 94.1% support to ban, easily above the 66.7% required. Stop trying to get sysops blocked. It won't work. Are you a sock of USHA? You're kinda acting like one, and you did interfere with his coop. Andrew5 (talk) 01:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * She blocked me before the ATIM vote not during. So your argument is invalid.
 * Can LeftyGreenMario provide evidence that I sent her 4 emails and what was written inside them was wrong?
 * Can someone do a ATIM case against DuceMooslini, GrammarCommie, Bongolian and LeftyGreenMario for harrassment?
 * Can someone please unblock me so I can participate in the ATIM case against me? I have the right (under the American Constitution) to face my accusers. Also stop lazy trolling me . Everyone knows that USHA isn't a real account. You know I checked.
 * Evidence was provided above. No, we will not be raising frivolous ATIMs against those users, they did nothing wrong. Also, USHA is an abbreviation for User:UShistoryanalyzer, in which you conveniently popped up just when they were cooped...to cause disruption. At least USHA did have a somewhat positive imprint here in June and early July.Andrew5 (talk) 01:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, we will not be unblocking you to participate in that ATIM because it would allow you to harass people via email, you can participate here but it appears all you want to do is argue and you don't actually want to do anything like apologize and promise not to do it. And no, we want more then just an "I'm sorry you thought I was...", more like, "I'm sorry for my trolling and harassment and I promise to make constructive contributions...". --Andrew5 (talk) 01:27, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * So I recieved notification from LGM saying that preventing disorder comes before settling bueracracy. I still think the vote was a good idea but, LGM did have reason to permaban you w/o vote. Andrew5 (talk) 01:33, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I promise not to use the email function. I have no use for it and I only used it because I was desperate. In fact, I bet that, , , , , , , , , , , , , and  are actually on my side here. I believe they are forced to toe the party line or face harassment so they are forced to agree to my ban. In fact I bet I'm only the beginning of change here on this wiki where people's beliefs are respected and instead of blocking and banning those who disagree with the official line agreed by fasicst dictators like DuceMooslini, people are instead insightful and listen to dissenting opinion.
 * In fact I have done constructive contributions to this wiki, have a look at my two edits to the mainspace. However each time I did so, I was reverted and blocked. So don't say I didn't try. It kinda like saying "Eat that cake on the table or be kicked out" but the cake was quickly removed from the table before you could eat any cake. Do you understand what I'm saying here ?
 * I would also would love evidence of my "trolling" other than the email I sent to LeftyGreenMario (which wasn't even close BTW).
 * Also the irony here of "preventing disorder". Who was the one who constantly attempted try to create contribution to the mainspace? Who attempted to have their POV in the Saloon Bar but got constantly harassed over it? It was me, ADefenceOfChristianity!
 * You realize the constitution doesn't apply here, right? You're not helping your case by being petulant. 2A01:388:3F5:161:0:0:1:90 (talk) 13:41, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Look, kid, this is a collaborative project. If you can't be expected to get along with other people, there is no reason for you to be here. You have done nothing here but fight with other people. Read the coop cases of UShit and Unclescrooge, trying to get other people banned for no good reason is one of the worst ways to build goodwill. If you actually tried to have constructive conversations with people about our articles, you would be a lot more well received, but the fact that you're clearly only here to proselytize, people aren't gonna take it well. Hell, you even went to my talk page and insulted me for being an atheist when I never insulted you for being a Christian, so you shouldn't complain about others being intolerant of opposing ideas when you clearly share the same intolerance. And before you go rat at us with your persecution complex, you should understand that I'm not supporting banning you 'cause you're a Christian, I'm supporting your ban because you are a dick, and I would bet all of the other people who voted to ban you would tell you the same. I, for one, am most certainly not on your side. Plutocow (talk) 02:00, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The reason I wrote in your talk page because you revert my mainspace edit (https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Plutocow&diff=prev&oldid=2361347). Again how can I have a meaningful discussion of people if instead of having your opinion you are immediately punished for it? It's insane!!! Like seriously, I have tried over and over again to be meaningful but it fails EACH AND EVERY TIME by different people escipally by the Gang of Four (GrammarCommie, DuceMooslini, LeftyGreen Mario and Bongolian)
 * Wait why was I pinged? BeardOfZeus (talk) 02:32, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Because, according to them, you're secretly on their side. Whatever that's supposed to mean. 02:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I am on the third side of the triangle. BeardOfZeus (talk) 02:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Come on man! Do you not read my case above? Considering how new your account you must not be as scared as other people to know how bad this site has become and that we together can change it?!
 * Uh, man from what I read through your contributions, it is clear that you have trouble understanding basic wiki decency. You have went against the Community Standards when it comes to editing. Your mainspace edits were not of high quality as they are of crank sources. Mate, please just try hard to go to mainspace edits and stay away from posting in the Saloon Bar. Have a good day. BeardOfZeus (talk) 04:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep yammering. It's fun watching your account currently writhe and squirm before it finally drifts into hell. 05:39, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ADefenceOfChristianity, I am most definitely not on your side. Nobody ever forces me to vote one way or intimidates me into doing so. I always follow my conscience when I vote. I don't hesitate to vote for what's obviously the losing option, if that's what I believe is right. I am also voting to ban you not because you're a Christian, but because you're a dick. Spud (talk) 06:14, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * --Andrew5 (talk) 12:06, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I suppose that aside from one editor nobody wants to defend you as you're very obviously only here to troll. You're perfectly indefensible, if you were to attempt to be productive rather than cause ruckus every other day, perhaps we would be more lenient toward you. Senioritas (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, ADOC, lemme counter refute your point. So, "being desperate" is never a reason to harass. None of them are secretly on your side, we all think you're an immature troll. You're two mainspace edits we're immediately rollbacked, not just reverted, meaning it was percieved as obviously disruptive. Which they were. And you only made two mainspace edits.Your one pointless talk page discussion brings us to 3 edits out of 114. The other 111 include 66 edits of trolling your talk page and 37 in project space. In short, you are clearly not here to do anything but troll.--Andrew5 (talk) 13:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The fact that you think you're "making good points" is also a problem. You're not making good points, you're making such terrible points that no one is bothering to refute them because they're functionally indistinguishable from concern trolling. They literally only make sense to you and other idiotic fundamentalists; anyone with half a brain doesn't give them serious thought, which is why no one cares to debate you. Unfortunately, you seem to take the lack of response as indication that you're correct and everyone else just refuses to admit that you're right.
 * You're not right, you're pathetic and annoying.2A01:388:3F5:161:0:0:1:90 (talk) 13:38, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You're not right, you're pathetic and annoying.2A01:388:3F5:161:0:0:1:90 (talk) 13:38, 11 October 2021 (UTC)