Talk:Metapedia/archive1

do we really need to protect this? the wandalism is trivial and easily reverted... human be in 17:48, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I only made it so IP's couldn't edit the page (I think) as the only one's that have so far are (presumably) the same person.  Feel free to unlock it if you want however. Locke  [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  Always Watching...... 17:50, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I guess I can live with that, but it is easy enough to keep an eye on stuff like this, and I'd rather err on the side of freedom than become sterile and incestuous like some certain other sites. -Smyth 17:52, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Interesting. As far as I can tell, it's still protected, and yet JB was able to edit in his pet link.  So your "no anons only" protections seems to have worked. human be in 19:22, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I had never heard of Metapedia. I checked it out. I want to know how to unsee that without going all Budd Dwyer on myself. EVDebs 00:29, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * We apologize for the trauma. Perhaps you have a spiritual mentor, favorite restaurant, or some grain alcohol that will help you unsee it?  I have been using all three in conjunction, and I am 3/4 healed now. human be in 01:34, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I have a big-ass Jewish cookbook in front of me at the moment and I'm thinking of making bagels on Friday. Will that help? If not, I have a copy of The Joys of Yiddish and a pretty decent African diaspora cookbook that might help a little more. (BTW, is it true that there's a rule in the Atheist Handbook about using the blood of KKK children to make my artisanal ciabatta? I only upgraded from Agnostic a couple of months ago and haven't gotten my copy yet.) EVDebs 02:39, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Sorry, I had to bite on this: "big-ass Jewish" Sorry, really sorry.  I didn't mean it.  I loves me the Jews, and hopes them to find a happy home... human be in 03:56, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Fat-bottomed maidels, they make this kosher world go oy!

I tried to make bagels once, they're really tough. My attempt turned out...sub-optimal. Better luck with yours. --Kels 06:13, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

Question
What did Metapedia ever do to you? None of you are banned as you are at Conservapedia, and I see no reason to hate thim. Freedomforthewhiteman 14:20, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * They came into existence. --Edgerunner  76 14:35, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Spreading hate, lies, and stupidity is bad for everyone in the long run. So can I offer you a knish? Maybe a mess of collard greens or some chicken mole? EVDebs 14:45, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I could go for some homemade macaroni and cheese. Mmm, macaroni and cheese.  --Edgerunner  76 14:48, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Oh, man. Macaroni and cheese, mmm...wonder if I should make that tonight. --Kels 14:52, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Oh yeah, I think that is dinner for me tonight.  --Edgerunner  76 14:56, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah, but mac and cheese won't offend racist jerkwads... EVDebs 15:02, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * To hell with that guy! This isn't even about him anymore.  I just want some damn mac and cheese!  <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">--Edgerunner  <font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">76 15:05, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I had bagels and cream cheese this morning, does that count? --Kels 15:19, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

It's not like we're doing much of anything to them. Anyone doing stuff over there is doing it on their own hook, not on behalf of RW, and the worst we're doing is describing them accurately. Pretty mild. --Kels 14:37, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

Man, now I wanna go to that awesome Ethiopian restaurant downtown, but I got nobody to go with. --Kels 15:20, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 * What has Metapedia done to me? Clogged up the tubes with its evil. Also, they have banned me. Forty-three times, as a matter of fact. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!


 * Maybe they banned you, but you were probably vandalizing. Unlie at Conservapedia, where you were banned arbitrarily. 4.152.24.25 21:51, 4 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Wait, Wikinterpreter, you actually created an account there? <font color="#003153">Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color="#082567">Always Watching...... 00:14, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I did, too, and I thought it was a pro-project username, and made some pro-project edits, but by the time Gunther and his goons got a chance to check them out, I got busted, banned, and labelled as an "obvious troll". Stupid white men... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 02:04, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Yep, Pinto, I'm pretty much all of the 'vandals' on wheels. And no, Jeb, I wasn't vandalising - they should appreciate having MLK's 'I have a dream' speech copied in font size 5 Impact blue bold onto every single page. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!


 * If Human was "Furze" I think he deserved it. Unlike all the good Nazi heroes who have been banned from CP. 4.152.6.184 16:05, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Wrong guess. And, hey, wikinterp, how come we don't have that glorious MLK speech page here? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 16:24, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

deletion
I'm not sure why SusanG deleted this article, so I restored it. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 15:50, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

'Twasn't accidental - jeb was getting on my nerves! It stopped him. Only intended it for temporary deletion. Anyway nice to see it back. Susan talk to me  16:07, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

Delete this articel
Useless, worthless, bigoted and stupid. Has nothing to do with the site's mission. 4.152.30.167 21:17, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Nise speling job, dood. Impressive.  Actually, it's accurate, clear, concise, and absolutely is on track with our mission.  Dumbass. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 21:27, 5 October 2007 (EDT)


 * This article is a stupid attack page that should be deleted. If you don't delete, I will begin to replace mass numbers of RW articles with A. Wyatt Mann cartoons. Racemixingisgenocide 21:29, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
 * This article is an honest, accurate depiction of the site concerned, based on visiting it and reading it. Whoa, threats?  OMGZ I AM SO SCARED!!!!!11111oneone@!21!@@!!  And guess what, dumbass?  We won't even block your sorry loser self! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 21:39, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

If this article was meant to be funny...
...then it's not. If it was meant to be serious, it's just stupid. Anyway, I go with deleting it. Southernpovertylawcenterisforfaggotsitdeservestodie 10:18, 6 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Ah, but we don't care what you think Jeb. Susan  talk to me  10:31, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * You know, we need a new name which describes in an RW way a certain type of person. "Troll" really isn't it. How about "Mouth Foamer"?  The initials are incidental.--Bob's your uncle 11:17, 6 October 2007 (EDT)


 * How about infantile twat? Susan  talk to me  11:24, 6 October 2007 (EDT)


 * WOMAN!! 4.152.33.111 13:11, 6 October 2007 (EDT)


 * 'Troll' can be good or bad - it just refers to a specific set of tactics in the Internet Warrior's arsenal (should be an article ...). How about 'subHuman ice sock gang'? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!

Well, as the real Jeb, not some sock, I say the article is perfectly fine the way it is. It shouldn't be changed, at all. All of those socks are probably just Human being silly. So that's it, and this is definitely Jeb, not someone who he gave his account password to.--Jeb Berkeley 13:33, 6 October 2007 (EDT)

I think that if he wants to be a racist southern fag, let him. You are just encouraging him with all this talk. and how about instead of troll we use southern fag.The AlienDon't tase me, Bro!!! 14:01, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * For a start, I propose a moratorium on the non-snarky use of the word 'fag'. We're better than that. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
 * True, lets not be homophobic, how about "southern-whore"? - Icewedge 14:15, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Meh, whore=prostitute=fault of customers, not practitioners, so that's a bit degrading. We could take a Thomist view - 'and he is that which all men call Jeb'. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!


 * So Troll -> Jebbist? Susan  talk to me  14:57, 6 October 2007 (EDT)

I've always been partial to Cletus, the Slack-Jawed Yokel, but it's tough to beat a classic. --Kels 15:04, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I'm still stuck on "mouth foamer". I mean - foaming at the mouth is what these people do.--Bob's your uncle 15:38, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah, except "foamer" already refers to hardcore railfans -- too rich to be hobos, too messed-up to actually work for a rail company. EVDebs 14:29, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

Teh feeding of teh parodic troll
Don't do it. --<font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 09:27, 7 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I agree with linus, it just encourages them to continue to posting the link, it gives their sad pathetic little lives meaning. I mean just because we have a link doesn't mean we support it. All it does is to bring more racist members on to the site.The AlienDon't tase me, Bro!!! 22:25, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Anti-white nonsense picture
This page was bad enogh already, but the picture is an obvious attack on white people. It should be removed. Apartheid 21:17, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
 * The site which this article is based upon is an obvious attack on all non-white people, you remove the site from existence, I'll take down the picture. Deal? <font color=Orange>Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 21:20, 19 October 2007 (EDT)


 * I can't remove the site from existence, since I'm not the founder. You CAN remove the stupid anti-white picture. Apartheid 21:24, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
 * As an almost 100% white person, I don't see how the picture is anti-white. Silly, yes, weird, granted, but anti-white??  (Unless that "Be A Better Person" nasal spray is supposed to be poison??)  If anything, the picture of the black person was so close to a stereotype that my initial thought (before really looking at it) was that it was probably an anti-black picture. Researcher 21:57, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Apartheid, that's what we call humour, not racism. If you're offended by that, you're probably the sort of person who thinks Cecil Rhodes was an okay kind of guy. What the hell are you jackboots doing here anyway? Shouldn't you be out lying about Jewish people with better educations than you or something? EVDebs 00:37, 20 October 2007 (EDT)\

Attacks
What's with the attacks against the wiki? It should stop. I request this hater page be deleted. 4.152.6.37 19:15, 21 October 2007 (EDT)
 * What attacks?--Remarcsd 19:20, 21 October 2007 (EDT)
 * "If they stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about them." -- Adlai Stevenson. --Gulik 19:57, 21 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Ahhh, those attacks.--Remarcsd 20:19, 21 October 2007 (EDT)

AH article screen shot
I don't think that image does anything one way or another, on the article or on our site. See my comments at Image_talk:Metahitler.PNG. It's unreadable, and having an article with text doesn't prove anything one way or another - the WP article on Hitler is longer than theirs, does that mean WP loves him even more? Requesting discussion before removal and deletion... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  18:25, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

What They Say
I've put a few choice quote in the article so that people can have some idea of where they are coming from. But I'm not entirely happy about even having these things as quotes on the site. What do we think? --Bobbing for apples 07:49, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Ignoring it won't make it go away, so... better get it out in the open and deal critically with it, I think. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 10:46, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

I agree with AK- the more lights that are on, the more the roaches are forced back into their holes. PFoster 10:51, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I¡ll put some links in then. Might stimulate some contra-arguments as well.--Bobbing for apples 11:02, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

racialism
I see that we've got a (sic) (and a sickening) after this word,  It does, in fact, exist as a word - which was a surprise to me. So the sickening comment may be correct - but the (sic) isn't.--Bobbing for apples 13:20, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Well, the sic is still "correct" - just unnecessary. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  14:16, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

Black Panther
Technically, most, if not all of that was accurate. <font color=Orange>Locke   <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 23:18, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

Accurate - like the part where BP took out the Holocaust Denial tag? PFoster 23:20, 25 October 2007 (EDT)


 * I added the Holocaust denial tag. YOU took it out. Black Panther 23:21, 25 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Check the history, it's true. <font color=Orange>Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 23:22, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

My Bad, sorry. PFoster 23:23, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

Watchdog article requested
What is going on at MP? - or something similar. Black Panther 23:27, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I vote against this, as it gives un-needed attention, and links to MP. <font color=Orange>Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 23:30, 25 October 2007 (EDT)


 * But if it becomes popular enough, it may become the highest Google result. Black Panther 23:32, 25 October 2007 (EDT)


 * True, but I personally feel that they vandalize this site enough as it is, however, this is for the community to decide, and not me. <font color=Orange>Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 23:35, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Personally, while I can laugh at CP, I don't have the stomach to try to look at MW enough to know what's going on there. Researcher 23:38, 25 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Sorry, I;ve already started the article. Black Panther 23:41, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 * But it didn't make the link blue, so I nowiki'd it for now. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  01:46, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

"But if it becomes popular enough, it may become the highest Google result." Okay, Ken PFoster 23:41, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

I have nothing against the idea--but I will do nothing to help with it. I've tried to see what drives the people there multiple times, but I come away with nothing but a real need to vomit every time I try. Researcher 23:55, 25 October 2007 (EDT)


 * I don't like the idea. Conservapedians tend to be the harmless kind of nuts, so ridicule is appropriate. Metapedia seems to be populated with the dangerous kind of fruit cake, to whom the proper response is psychiatric evaluation followed by medication and/or a lengthy stay in a secure unit. --Jeeves 00:08, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

Attack on Rationalwiki
In response to your pathetic attempts to vandalize the site with liberal bullshit, MP users are coordinating attacks on RationalWiki. At around 15:59 UTC tomorrow, we will begin creating constant vandalbots replacing pages with links to the site and replacing RW articles with MP ones. Knotsey 18:53, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
 * No, wait. That's not right... -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:00, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * Oh man that made my day.....the best game eva!11!!1 19:07, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * Heh, what a terrifying threat. <font color=Orange>Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 19:12, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * When is 15:59 UTC in EST? I want to get some popcorn and a ringside seat! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  19:27, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * EST is -5 UTC. So 10:59 EST. 19:30, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * Dang, I probably won't be up yet. Can someone tape it for me? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  19:31, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * Get your ass out of bed, you souse!!--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 19:41, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 * Get your ass out of bed, you souse!!--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 19:41, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Bah, I'll be at work. So my blue-eyed, pale-skinned, German derived (on my dad's side) self won't get the full glory. --Kels 20:04, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Presumably, however, MediaWiki offers a feature to lock down and snapshot the entire database in case these bozos make good on the threat? It does, right? EVDebs 01:53, 13 November 2007 (EST)
 * Oh sure, but its easy to handle I think with a few editors and roll back. I am also working on a software solution that should limit the damage of vandals but should not effect normal use at all. 01:59, 13 November 2007 (EST)
 * (yawn) has anybody here ever vandalized MP? -- Ζωροάστρης  02:03, 13 November 2007 (EST)
 * I've never even looked at MP, honestly. My time is generally spent looking at stuff I like, instead. --Kels 06:50, 13 November 2007 (EST)

That was easy! Elassint Throw things at me
 * Wow, my first sysop duties, and I thwarted a mayjer attakkk. How 'xciting! VirileSterileyawn! 11:08, 13 November 2007 (EST)

He was tricky, though registering as <font face="Times New Roman">SteriIe to be confused with <font face="Times New Roman">Sterile. VirileSterileyawn! 11:18, 13 November 2007 (EST)


 * What happened? Where were the constant vandalbots?  We were promised vandalbots!  Let me talk to the manager!  I want a refund! Master Bra'tac<font color="#661111">Kree! 20:02, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Registered
Well, I've done it - I've registered at Metapedia (GASP!). I'm not sure where it will go, and I have no expectations - feel free to watch my journey play out. -- Ζωροάστρης  02:18, 13 November 2007 (EST)
 * I have an account there, and its not dead yet <GASP> Elassint Throw things at me 03:08, 13 November 2007 (EST)
 * Personally I'd rather vomit my entrails than look at that site again, but goatspeed to you guys! Totnesmartin 05:47, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Well - I fixed some stuff in their Canada and Pierre Trudeau articles, and I mentioned that Jesus was a, you know....Jew in a couple of places. I also cut and paste CP's Homosexuality article into theirs, but it somehow felt wrong, so I took it out. We'll see how long all that lasts. I feel like I need a shower just from spending a half-hour there. Won't be going back, I think...PFoster 19:28, 13 November 2007 (EST)

I created about 5 accounts along the lines of "••••••••" to spread about some lovely vandalism, but, sadly, they require manual administrative authentication. --<font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 23:57, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Why cant I just put an external link there?
Is it that bad? I've never been there before. 209.17.190.78

Because, as our smart, wise and very good looking sysops said: "RationalWiki does not provide links to racist garbage."PFoster 19:32, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Attack on this site
What is with the attack on this site? Those of you who are banned from here are banned for wandalism, not for ideology. Prussian1488 16:57, 28 November 2007 (EST)
 * HACKERS ON STEROIDS. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
 * Because racist garbage is irrational garbage. Beyond that, racism is one of the most destructive forms of irrationality on the web. Researcher 17:45, 28 November 2007 (EST)
 * We aren't hatin' on youze because "we" were banned - we'ze hatin' on ya for your message, ideas, and content. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  19:35, 28 November 2007 (EST)

cripple-dicked neo-Nazi bedwetters
I see that this (and other insults) is included in the introduction. I note that one of our community standards is Personal "attacks", however justified, are strongly frowned upon. I can't help but feel that this may just fall under the description of "personal attack". I must say that I also personally find this kind of hyperbole rather detracts from the point being made. Any thoughts? --Bobbing up 14:33, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * though it pains me to say it, I sortof agree. It might be better to let their own message make themselves look bad without the aid of pointless insults. ♠ ŖєuĻєəux ♠say wнäτ? 14:48, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * I agree. "Neo-Nazi" on its own is enough of an insult, and backed up by the facts on the ground. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  14:57, 4 December 2007 (EST)