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France
where did you get all that from? Sophie Wilder  16:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * And would you please put it back there? Snark is fine. Encyclopedia Dramatica 3.0 is not. EVDebs (talk) 17:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Interesting. "no way you wrote all that in the three minutes after creating an account"

Indeed. Congratulations for your wonderful enquiry skills. I just happened to read the article, found it... Improvable, to say the least, wrote, had issues with the confirmation code about the brackets needed to post, switched to had an issue posting with IE, created an account with IE, logged in, copy pasted the article with modifications.

"undoing until we can source it", Fair enough. There are more than probably many improvements/corrections that can be done.

"Snark is fine. Encyclopedia Dramatica 3.0 is not"

So, blacks are lazy, italians are thieves, french are cowards, their women don't shave, germans are strict, americans are fat and stupid: funny. Saying that the luftwaffe happened to lose mysteriously 2000 planes in France in 5 weeks while the french army was just waving white flags as we know they always do, not funny. Got it. For the encyclopedia part, however, i thought that maybe RATIONALwiki could present some events or at least views that are not widely known, especially with all the enthousiastic "cheese-eating" and assimilated spams.

Anyway.

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Origins
−	−	French have always been a snobbish and inbred nation, as their origins attest: At first Basque people mixed with greeks, gauls, celts, romans, germans and especially franks, vandals, goths, burgonds ( and other barbarian invaders of the empire ), they later also included people from Africa ( Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Benin, Ivory Coast, Congo, Nigeria, Madagascar, etc... ), America( Carribeans, North American, especially Canada, South American with French Guyana ), and Middle East ( Syria, Lebanon ). Oh, and south east asia, too. −	'''Basques are known to be probably the most ancient dwellers in France. '''http://www.cell.com/AJHG/retrieve/pii/S0002929712000328 '''The first real french city was Massilia ( Marseille), a greek colony. During the rest of the bronze age, the country was populated by gauls, celts in britanny, invaded by romans, then by germans -Gaul became '''France, because country of the Franks, -the free men-, and partly of other "barbarian" populations that passed. Then, later to a smaller extent of people from all over the empire. French colonies are mainstream history, so i guess this link will suffice: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_colonial_fran%C3%A7ais

France is a country that gives headache even to the laws of causality ( see below ). −	It is of public knowledge that French troops have always a negative military value, and that the country has never had, nor still has, any weight in the poker game of world diplomacy. It then is quite suprising to know that most of the military language comes from french, a country that in terms of arms exportation is ranked 193th, in a list of 197 countries ( starting from below ), has its police forces chosen by mentally deficiend chairmen to teach on airplane security, is met at fighter exercises by rookies on broken planes, or more recently, comes to help a friendly democracy attacked by zealots just when those probably decided to take some vacations and retreat.

'''What can i say ? I tried to stick to the humour of ze articleu. Read a long time ago a book about the conquest of england by William the Conqueror, and the establishment of french as diplomacy language up to '''the 18th century. There were notes about the origin of military language, from french origin. Don't have the title of the book, though, but found this: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/380496?uid=3738016&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102128633673 '''France is the 4th bigger arms exporter in the world http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/gallery/Worlds-Top-5-arms-exporters/3105/,

'''One of the french special forces, the GIGN, was chosen as leader of the european workgroup for hostage rescue, ATLAS.http://www.gendarmerie.interieur.gouv.fr/gign/Actus/Exercice-europeen-organise-par-le-GIGN

The french rafale seems to have beaten the german/british/italian/spaniard eurofighter during exercices; Was in an aviation review, lots of reports all pointing to this state on the net, but no really reliable source. http://www.theworldreporter.com/2012/04/eurofighter-typhoon-vs-dassault-rafale.html#.UcIgbthEkuc

'''And in the intervention in Mali, how else could the french have gained terrain on jihadists ?

France's cowardly agressiveness made them establish colonies numbering 75.000 colonists living in ( a mutually-distrusting and hateful, of course ) peace with indian tribes in a zone 12 times bigger than the british ones, that numbered 1.2 million citizens, lots of them enlightened with the puritan idea that their expansion by genocide against those red-skinned devils and their froggy allies was not only a bloody good idea, but a godly one, too. A conflict then ensued, on paper a fair fight with the already presented 1.2 million british colonists on one side ( one would need to substract those reckneckish quakers ) reinforced by 45.000 redcoats, against 75.000 New France citizens with 3500 soldiers ( as France, a continental country, felt the need strange need to deploy 100.000 white-flag-wavers against some sort of coalition or something ). They managed to steal numerous victory from the grasp of elite british commanders by dubious and unfair methods like not staying in a fort to be shelled to death but fighing forth, notably indian-style, and intercepting landing troops. + −	They were then defeated, not by a numerical superiority of 10 lionhearted redcoats to 1 flag-waver ( which suprisingly didn't work ) but by numerical superiority, siege, then endless reinforcements and honorable pratics like deportation, burning cities, and offering vermin-infested cloth to indians ( as a thanksgiving present, probably ). +

−	( another more probable explanation is, of course, that french troops surrendered to passing washerwomen, and that an astonishing number of accidents occured when surprisingly clumsy british troops tried to pile up the "never used, dropped once" muskets, bayonets and swords.) +	−		+	−	Ultimately, they lost what would become Canada, as well as numerous other interests. France then handed over the rights to the Louisiana Territory to Spain, an ally of the French, as compensation for Spain trading Florida to Britain for Cuba and a player to be named later. France then participated at the party known at the American Revolution on the side of the future U.S., which nearly bankrupted the country and was one of the major factors contributing to the French Revolution.

 http://merrill.olm.net/mdocs/pop/colonies/colonies.htm '''http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_France '''History of the american people ( by Daniel boorstin, still have this one ) '''there is also the book "history of New France". '''The 10 to 1 is actually an exageration; It was a 20.000 against 3.000 at the battle of fort carillon, making it 7 to 1 rounded up. '''Once again, cadian deportation, indian genocide, mainstream history... '''

French revolution seemed to worry for some reason its neighbouring kingdoms, which declared war on the young republic. There, some communist-hippy university researchers talk about an army of citizen-soldiers from the entire country walking hundreds of kilometers to face invading armies and actually defeating them, but seriously, mostly regular frenchmen fighing more numerous prussian line infantry ? And then, becoming idealist veterans that would be easy to fight back not only their attackers, but the idea of tyranny, bringing as encouraged by propaganda freedom to their slave european brothers ?

+	−	Anyway, after securing its frontiers still threatened by a fragile peace, and having some intern political troubles leading to a consulate with napoleon at the head, Britain decided to make another friendly move by unilateraly seizing 1200 french civilian merchant ships in british harbours. France then began to assemble an army ( probably to find at least one snail-eater brave enough to bring a complaint letter to buckingham palace ) and declared war on Britain, who just happened to finance yet another european coalition against those cowardly french; Coalition of the lazy in fact, taking decades to finally defeat overwhelmed flag-wavers, but not before they took Moskau ( with poorer winter clothes, and the total absence of trucks, tanks nor planes that another army will later benefit from; Probably taken for tourists by the serfs of the humanist tsarish army ).

'''History of the french revolution, french revolutionnary wars, battle of valmy '''history of the first empire. '''History of rights in europe ( penal code spread into feudal systems by the french empire ) '''The rupture of amien's peace, seizing of 1.2k ships, attacks on peaceful ships or colonies, cration of the grande armée, once again, mainstream history ! http://www.napoleon-empire.net/chronologie/chronologie-1803.php ,

A strange war about which some mouth-foaming insanes say something about the french starting to lose because the number of shells and bullet in the air making french favoured large bayonet charges unefficient +	−

Read in a history review ( probably "histoire", long time ago ) During the napoleonian wars, musket fire accounted for a low percentage of deaths; More were due to artillery, still not very efficient at the time. Most fights were done by large formation in hand-to-hand combat; Of course, at this time and later, the french won't be the only one to keep using mass charges, just with little success.

Before that, there are stories about overwhelmed french troops fighting and -who'd be suprised- losing in mexico, or overwhelmed french troops surrendering and miraculously taking huges territory to China ( at a time where the english were bravely fighting the elite and top-tech zulu tribes )

'''french expeditionnary force in mexico, in indochina, battle of Tuyen Quang, Zulu kingdom...

During this war of and for empires, the -as always- brown-panted french cowards were sent by millions with friends and foes alike in the meat-grinder of artillery barrages and trench assaults. Not much to be said, apart the fact that they invented the recoilless field gun, the modern trench mortar, co-invented the tank, were the first to arm planes and regroup them in squadrons, and found the time to bore the heroic american troops during 6 month as they arrived ( at the breaking of the war, summer 1916 ) when thousands of frenchmen were butchered every day ( some coward enough to the point of refusing to make pointless assaults ! ), with lessons about useless things like how to assault machinegun nests with the suppression fire of automatic rifles, tank assaults, etc... Lessons that the center-europe wundertruppen didn't have to suffer from. ( They then suffered from the subject of the lessons, but that's an unrelated matter )

'''Its bloody ww1, what is there more to say ? The training of us troops ? http://fr.ambafrance-us.org/spip.php?article400 The expedition in salonica ? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exp%C3%A9dition_de_Salonique ''' The 81mm field mortar ? 75mm recoilless gun ? Soldiers mutinies ? '''Getting late. the rest, later.