RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Category:Extreme wingnuttery & Category:Extreme moonbattery (2nd nomination)

Category:Extreme wingnuttery & Category:Extreme moonbattery (2nd nomination)| Result: Merged

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Merge

 * 1) This proposal applies to both "extreme wingnuttery" and "extreme moonbattery": since they have been divided into subgroups and now only contain 3-4 subcategories each (and both names are somewhat tautological, as aren't moonbattery/wingnuttery extreme by definition?), I advocate that these two categories be replaced by a single category called something like "Political insanity", that will contain all 6-7 of the moonbattery/wingnuttery subcategories, along with "Centrist stupidity", so that they can all be in the same place. If you participate in this discussion and are in favour of this "merge" proposal, please state what you think the new category should be called - it could be "political insanity", "political stupidity" etc. --Yisfidri (talk) 00:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Why not have a cat called "political insanity" or whatever and put extreme moonbattery, extreme wingnuttery and centrist stupidity in it? Christopher (talk) 08:14, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Well yes, that's a possibility, but I'm thinking that the merge proposal would "save" on one level of categorization by comparison (i.e. a simpler category tree) - I don't think 7-8 categories (all the variants of moonbat/wingnut/centrist stupidity) are too many to have in a single "Political insanity" category. From my POV the names "extreme m/w" also sound a bit tautological, and almost give the impression of being specific variants of moonbattery/wingnuttery (i.e. distinct from the authoritarian/libertarian etc variants) rather than catch-all categories. --Yisfidri (talk) 13:16, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Combining them makes sense. I think the new page should be called something like Political Instability, because if you have a lever and there is too much of something on one side, you end up with a broken lever.Spectral Thief Marshadow (talk) 21:51, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) Changing vote. MERGE THESE MOTHER******S! Ahem. I think we should merge them. RoninMacbeth (talk) 19:10, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * 3) I don't even know why we made separate categories to begin with Vorarchivist (talk) 01:06, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * 4) ClickerClock (talk) 08:19, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * 5) Suggested names: either "Political nuttery" or "Extreme nuttery". 16:22, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Keep

 * #Barring Horseshoe theory, these guys are crazy in different ways. Keep them separate. RoninMacbeth (talk) 21:54, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think the proposal advocates merging the two because they have something in common: being extreme positions. Instead, it's to essentially remove the two categories since they seem to serve only as hubs for the subcategories nested inside there. If you look inside extreme wingnuttery, for instance you'll find three more categories. I think the proposal is to place these three subcategories (and more) under a broader label, "Extreme politics" or "Political insanity". In other words, if the proposal passes, there will be a category called "Political insanity" and it'll contain Category:Authoritarian wingnuttery, Category:Conservative wingnuttery, Category:Libertarian wingnuttery, Category:Authoritarian moonbattery, Category:Feminist moonbattery, Category:Liberal moonbattery, Category:Libertarian moonbattery, and Category:Centrist stupidity. 18:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's exactly right. --Yisfidri (talk) 02:36, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


 * 1) Keep. Evil Zionist (talk) 22:27, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) They are two separate things. Just because they're very similar doesn't make them worthy of merging. —вιgℓʝвιgℓ (ᴛᴀʟᴋ/sᴛᴀʟᴋ) 03:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Delete

 * 1) These had the majority votes to be deleted in the first enty, but weren't deleted because a)no clear consensus was made and b)it was too much work to delete in every article. "These categories are so vague and arbitrary as to be meaningless." 19:33, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * "too much work to delete in every article", can't we just use a bot or use an edit tool that lets you edit a particular string (e.g. you delete the string) that can affect a ton of pages at once (I forget the name of that tool)?  19:41, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It's too much work if you don't understand how to use terminal commands. 22:51, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to do it with HotCat like I did with unremitting horror. Christopher (talk) 09:01, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ok (a) I can easily do changes like with with, (b) this category is useful for holding all the other categories 16:20, 9 September 2017 (UTC)