Talk:Manosphere glossary

Random stupid grammar shit
Just moved some commas and periods into their correct places within quotations. Stupid minor edits. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 152.208.63.217 / talk / contribs

Absolute Beginners
This is not an Incel forum. There are strict rules, and sexism, misogynie etc. are not allowed.

"Woman moment"/"Women moment"
I've encountered a phrase in the comments on this Facebook post that may belong as a new glossary entry.

As used, "woman moment" (alternatively, "women moment") appears to be used derisively to highlight a point at which a woman says or does something stupid or harmful, with the phrase serving to generalize it to all/most women. However, as this is my very first (and second through tenth) encounter with the phrase, I think additional corroboration is in order before anyone adds it to the page. --Twentydragon (talk) 21:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That is how the phrase is used, but it’s not always used against women (although that is a common usage) and it isn’t exclusive to the manosphere. Not worth mentioning. Christopher (talk) 21:58, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Is it common outside this context? I've seen "senior moment" used primarily in a self-depricating way by people in their 40s and older. I have not (thus far) seen similar usage of "woman moment". All of people using the phrase in the thread appeared to be men. --Twentydragon (talk) 02:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

The Evening Standard and femcels
Is this a suitable reference? (I don't add many references to wikipages so might dislocate things) Anna Livia (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Bad boys
Are part of what fantasy/fanfic are about - the women can enjoy the bbs (who are often handsome, decisive etc) without the hassle. Anna Livia (talk) 20:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it also plays into a sort of savior complex blended with elements of the "secret side that only I know about" thing, or so I believe. Pretty sure it's a fairly common cliche.--Logos (talk) 02:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * One can enjoy the fantasy (in whatever format) as such (which overlaps with the antihero trope), knowing that it would not necessarily be A Good Thing in ordinary/real life.

There are also the category of chap who makes it clear he is out for a good time rather than a permanent relationship - and both sides know what the score is.


 * Where would the term 'good time girl' fit into the manosphere world view? Anna Livia (talk) 10:49, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * And the pejorative use of 'Essex girls, these persons and this world view'? Anna Livia (talk) 11:12, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I've sporadically heard the term "ladette", but I don't know enough about any of those to be sure if they fit the manosphere worldview. As for the "good time girl", see "slut" or its many variations.--Logos (talk) 12:48, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The point is - the women referenced are enjoying themselves (whether or not we approve of them) so are intrinsically not part of the manosphere. Anna Livia (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2022 (UTC)