RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Candlemakers' Petition

Candlemakers' Petition | Result: Delete

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 * 1) Hopelessly off-mission. The author was a libertarian, I think he was trying to create entries for his ideology. GeeJayK (talk) 15:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Yeah, it's not very good. It could be more missional with a more critical angle, but right now there's nothing to salvage. Plutocow (talk) 15:14, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Personally I'd say even on a critical angle it wouldn't be a good article. It's a classical text written 20 years before Marx published Das Kapital, so it doesn't even count as a source for modern studies except if you're into history of the economic thought. It's just as a curiosity that some people take too serious. GeeJayK (talk) 15:21, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Christopher (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) a stub created in 2010. in the time passed since it has remained a stub with the majority of activity in the fossil record concerning categories. its doubtful anyone has plans to expand at this point. start afresh in draft space if anyone is so inclined AMassiveGay (talk) 15:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) The Other Wiki™ only has one line in Bastiat's page referencing the petition. If this was EconomyWiki or WorkersWiki or something I'd be more understanding. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 15:34, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) Why must people try to misuse classical liberal thought to support their own views? 17:10, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 19:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Bongolian (talk) 19:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 19:45, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Techpriest (talk) 14:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) —cosmikdebris talk stalk 16:01, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * Not sure if I can have a 'move' option, but moving it to draftspace is best. Short yes, but it has room for potential and should be instead moved to draft space for now. Gale5050 (talk) 15:50, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * there is nothing to move to draft space. it not like we'd be deleting hours and hours of research and work. a paragraph and a half will lost, 5 minutes of someones time. and its easier to anew than work with a few sentences that would likely be rephrased, rearranged, and ultimately removed for anything more than a stub. any potential it may have has been untapped for the 10 years of existence. what makes you think anyone will be spurred to make something of this stub now? put it draft space and it will be untouched and forgotten for another 10 years, when someone spots and marks it for deletion only to be thwarted by 'has potential' or 'just needs expanding' every afd ever has potential, and just needs expanding. never usually explained what that potential might be or how it might be expanded. never usually anyone volunteering to do the work, whatever work turns out beAMassiveGay (talk) 16:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also sysops have a way to see the deleted text for a while if there's some sudden renewal of interest. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 16:59, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I disagree with deleting old drafts, encuraging expansion is better IMO, though I can see it becoming stale. I disagree with Wikipedia's w:WP:G13 rule although will admit, in 10 years it should be deleted.Gale5050 (talk) 14:43, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This isn’t Wikipedia. You have no understanding of how this wiki works. Christopher (talk) 14:53, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Mercantilism and protectionism are bad actually... 17:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * True, but I'm not sure that this article's attempt to broaden the Candlemakers' Petition beyond the original anti-tariff and anti-protectionism scope is justified. (Frédéric Bastiat seemed to be libertarian, so I don't doubt he'd be in agreement to a large degree. But unlike some of today's hardcore libertarians Bastiat allowed a little bit of room for subsidies "under extraordinary circumstances", per his Wiki article. At any rate there is nothing really about subsidies in the Candlemakers' Petition.) PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 19:55, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh I understand and agree. I just wanted to make that point despite my delete vote. 22:09, 11 June 2021 (UTC)