Conservapedia:What is going on at CP?/October 2008

Once again Hsmom has a misplaced good idea, as she suggests to Andy a resource for information such as proper citations. You know, for all those research papers his students write. I wonder if the book tells how to properly cite online lectures from an idiot man-child? Hitler Youth won't vote for Obama. Conservapedians asked to comply. "I'm going to try to work this article back to a more accurate definition over the next few gays." - Foxtrot Set your phasers on "stupid." Joaquin is simultaneously editing separate articles on "Renaissance" and "The Renaissance". Because you have to be specific about these things. Schlafly blocks two users for calling obvious parodist Saxplayer an obvious parodist, and for violating the 90/10 rule. Guess who isn't breaking the rule? Saxplayer! UPDATE: Once the Assfly has deemed you untouchable, you can get away with anything. Absolutely anything. UPDATE: Apparently not  UPDATE: You can even rise from the dead. LATE UPDATE: Wait a minute.... is PJR... defying the words of the great leader and forming an independent opinion? Pro wandalism: Counterexamples to Evolution gets a Rodgers & Hammerstein remix. How does Andy explain Obama's crushing advantage? Simple: he's a super-villain. Let the lulz commence. Wow, either JeremyM was a parodist, or one of Andy's dedicated followers. Either way Andy's crucified him and reverted him. Phil's creed: The Bible's all true (except the lies. Oh! and the metaphors. Oh! of course there's the figures of speech. Oops! forgot the parables. There might be some other stuff as well) Yes, it's all true. Bugler is watching us (for the good of CP). Hello Bugler, why not join us in the briefing room for a civilised chat, old chum? If you agree with evolutionary theory, you're "destined to a life without real beauty." Does that mean since chemistry doesn't talk about autumn leaves either, that chemists are likewise doomed? I used to think copying someone else's words and claiming they were my own was deceitful, but I changed my mind when I realized it was easier than doing the work myself. Behold, another encyclopedic masterpiece! It's Andy's Memo To Self! IanG: "If you hack my computer to steal my cookies, I will prosecute." Andy: *gasp* "You threaten me with your silly comments!" Who cares if the committee don't like the suggested Featured Article? If Joaquin "wrote" it, then Joaquin can make sure it gets featured. Andy adds some much needed "logic" to an entry. MOAR It would also seem that Andy thinks the only reason that leaves turn brown in autumn is to impress us humans with their beauty UPDATE Andy defends his position. Update PatWills: Beauty is subjective, I prefer green leaves Andy: Stop denying beauty! Obviously Conservatives never sit in on philosophical discussions... in most Ethics and International Relations classes, they don't stop at 25 million. It's called a thought experiment. <vote poll=wigo485 img="on" closed="yes">It's official: Barack Obama IS a socialist! And this article in WorldNetDaily proves it! But why is Obama's head bigger than the heads of the other New Party members in the photo? <vote poll=wigo484 img="on" closed="yes">Big Brother Andy is watching you. Thankfully he has no idea how computers work. <vote poll=wigo483 img="on" closed="yes">No matter what the facts are, Barack Obama (at least in Andyland) will always, always, ALWAYS be a Muslim who got into Harvard because of affirmative action. Telling the truth will get you blocked. UPDATE: An editor named "Womenforpalin" is now taking a hardline anti-Obama stand...how will the Conservapedia Cops react? <vote poll=wigo482 img="on" closed="yes">There's paranoia and demonizing, and then there's paranoia and demonizing. <vote poll=wigo481 img="on" closed="yes">A startling admission from Andy: "I routinely make judgements on matters I have no experience with, based entirely on my prejudices. Moreover, you can never prove me wrong." Then: Philip (almost) tells him he's wrong! <vote poll=wigo480 img="on" closed="yes">MurkL inserts a spelling error as his one contribution to CP. Result: a 5 year block. <vote poll=wigo479 img="on" closed="yes">Conservapedia: Objective reference or the Schlafly brothers' personal blog? Well just look what RSchlafly requested over at Wikipedia to decide...but at least another CP editor knows better. <vote poll=wigo478 img="on" closed="yes">Bouncing Bugler: If it's true, remove it. If it's false, defend it. <vote poll=wigo477 img="on" closed="yes">How dare those atheists continue to push their hatred of God by telling us to enjoy our lives! <vote poll=wigo476 img="on" closed="yes">The great thing about Andy is that in spite of all the evidence, he WILL NOT. accept any obvious conclusions. <vote poll=wigo475 img="on" closed="yes">"A controversy is erupting regarding Obama's citizenship and therefore his eligibility to be president of the United States." Because of course we can't tolerate a candidate who wasn't born in the United States. <vote poll=wigo474 img="on" closed="yes">An article that has long been missing at Conservapedia. <vote poll=wigo473 img="on" closed="yes">[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=American_History_Homework_Six_Answers_-_Student_Three&oldid=541624 That pesky aggressive North, always starting wars of aggression! They even angered Southerners, which was very bad for black people. It caused whitefolk to be bitter and, er, cling to, er, where was I? Oh yes. Why, North, why?] MOAR The KKK wasn't really about racism at all! <vote poll=wigo472 img="on" closed="yes">Hmm. BrianW catches Bugler fibbing about his degree study, but the response comes from Andy, telling Brian to "Stop playing with my Bugle".UPDATE: Stop teasing my Bugle, you naughty girl, or I'll have to punish you, too... UPDATE Bugler admits the lie, but still says he is a 'trained counsellor', so it's 'not a wild fib'. UPDATE Bugler makes sure everyone knows. <vote poll=wigo471 img="on" closed="yes">Schlafly Debating in action: All Hollywood films promote rampant drug use. Reply: Can you please name some? Andy Reply: I haven't seen any that don't. I WIN!!!!! MOAR Andy sets himself up for pwning. Even MOAR?! Has he dug too deep? MOAR MOAR SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP! Stop making me look wrong!. There will be no more denial allowed, shut UP! <vote poll=wigo470 img="on" closed="yes">PJR, ever the voice of reason, asks what on earth Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, and Ted Haggard could possibly have in common. Could it be... Evangelist values? <vote poll=wigo468 img="on" closed="yes">From the man who brought you Schlafly Statistics, his new theory that the word count of his American History Lectures makes it comparable to books by actual, qualified historians. <vote poll=wigo467 img="on" closed="yes">Charles Darwin is dead. Update: When exactly? Update: You see, Ken, this is why articles shouldn't be locked: 17 months elapsed between the time the error was made and the time you, the owner of the article, fixed it. <vote poll=wigo466 img="on" closed="yes">Actor, who had a minor role in one episode of Power Rangers, kills due to Hollywood Values. Every day more and more people fall victim. UPDATE NateE: "Andy, you're not making any sense". Andy: "No it isn't". MOAR PJR weighs in with a burst of logic. All hands brace for non-sequitur... MOAR MOAR I'm as surprised as you are. <vote poll=wigo465 img="on" closed="yes">Andrew, your remarks are far from bothering. Indeed, they cause great amusement. <vote poll=wigo464 img="on" closed="yes">More than four months of editing go poof as Andy undoes all attempts to bring the Gun Control article a bit closer to reality. <vote poll=wigo463 img="on" closed="yes">The home-schooled Thomas Edison agnostic? He says so? Not clear enough! We'll wait for something quote-minable... <vote poll=wigo462 img="on" closed="yes">BHarlan's edit summary is more telling than he realizes. Update: and again. <vote poll=wigo461 img="on" closed="yes">It might be foreign, but it's still a rude word to JPratt. <vote poll=wigo460 img="on" closed="yes">Those pesky blacks &mdash; why do they want liberals in office? Don't they like paying high taxes, having sucky health care, and giving all their money to rich carpetbaggers? And, no, this is not an acceptable answer. <vote poll=wigo459 img="on" closed="yes">Andy: "The Chicago Tribute is a left-wing newspaper." [sic] Okay, Andy, when you write the inevitable "Left-Wing Newspaper Values" article, remember to include "Limited Government", "Individual Responsibility", "Free Markets" and other Liberal Claptrap <vote poll=wigo458 img="on" closed="yes">One was founded in a cave on the Arabian peninsula in the seventh century. One was founded in Detroit in the 1930s. In Andy-land they're the exact same thing. <vote poll=wigo457 img="on" closed="yes">Obama, former terrorists and nuclear weapons: a match made in CP heaven...(note that unlike most stuff on the right side of the mainpage, this isn't a link to a news-blog story--just a random brain fart from Andy)... Update: Let's make sure everyone who sees the Obama article sees the most important sentence... Update: I won't complain about one single illiteracy in your comment, since you are as insane as me (wait, the editor might be right!) When I was a boy, all we were scared of were "atom bombs", so bugger off with your high tech, non-biblical terms. PS. Thanks anyway and go fuck yourself, or my wife, at least. She's whining again. <vote poll=wigo456 img="on" closed="yes">Ken, still giddy from his latest operation, adds a new Popular article to the mainpage. Problem is, though, it hasn't been written yet. (link for time comparisons, and just two sentences long) Update - Jallen saw right through him. <vote poll=wigo455 img="on" closed="yes">This is what happens when you lose your temper over Obama smears <vote poll=wigo454 img="on" closed="yes">Alexander Graham Bell, born in Scotland and living in Canada, would no doubt be surprised to find he was a Yankee. <vote poll=wigo453 img="on" closed="yes">Ken, irony meter, you know the drill. <vote poll=wigo452 img="on" closed="yes">Oh, for...I know it's more than five words long, Andy, but do I really need to read it for you? Okay, basically what he's saying is, YOUR ARTICLE IS UNREADABLE BECAUSE IT'S FULL OF LIES AND WRITTEN LIKE A FIVE YEAR OLD DID IT. You're welcome. <vote poll=wigo451 img="on" closed="yes">Andy: "Most of mankind's greatest works, writings, insights, discoveries, proofs, etc., were by teenagers." I guess if they spent less time on Facebook we'd have had that cure for homosexuality by now... <vote poll=wigo450 img="on" closed="yes">You wish, Jpatt. Update: Bugler delivers an inspiring oration. <vote poll=wigo449 img="on" closed="yes"> En garde! Riposte Philip J. Rayment lays it down! Critical Hit: HelpJazz fires his lazors! Defeated - Bugler plays Taps. <vote poll=wigo448 img="on" closed="yes">Turn of the tide: Now, there are more editors at CP blocked than allowed to comment.  <vote poll=wigo447 img="on" closed="yes">Really, Philip? Are you absolutely sure? <vote poll=wigo446 img="on" closed="yes">Another person wades into the statistics debate, with a predictable response by Bugler going.....going....., and then one more classic statement by Bugler, who does seem to slip further down the greasy pole of sanity everytime he makes an edit nope, still hanging in there by the fingernails, Bugler seems a tad shy about blocking since CharlieRCD. Still hanging in there, despite a ludicrous threat by Schlafly. Schlafly hasn't found any reason for reverting DavyJones, who is obviously playing by the letter of CP rules, but does so anyway. UPDATE: Ask and ye shall receive. Latest: DavyJones is still playing by CP rules. Andy and Bugler have nothing to saybut say it anyway. <vote poll=wigo445 img="on" closed="yes">Parody or not, this is just funny <vote poll=wigo444 img="on" closed="yes">HSMom applies some critical thinking in math: "Of the 37 students ..., 3% were self-employed." (Hint: How many is 3% of 37?) <vote poll=wigo443 img="on" closed="yes">Understanding the subtleties of the law is "liberal garbard." (garbage?) <vote poll=wigo442 img="on" closed="yes">Here's how homeschoolers are better than knuckledragging public school kids. The Reference section gives us a preview of Andy's latest mystery. Plus Andy's never seen any animosity towards public schoolers...even when he has criticized them. <vote poll=wigo441 img="on" closed="yes">An ever-vigilant HelpJazz cautiously removes something that may possibly be parody...(hint: check out the edit comment, and the date of the possibly fraudulent Jewish holiday...) <vote poll=wigo440 img="on" closed="yes">Ok, considering this user had made 0 edits I am wondering what type of person Bugler thinks he is?. Aha, the mystery is solved, it turns out that Charlie is another name for that bad white powder, after all, CharlieRCD couldn't be somebody's attempt to comply with the first name/last name naming policy. You have to wonder what Bugler gets up to at night, given that when he sees the name Charlie he immediately thinks 'coke' and not 'bloke'. <vote poll=wigo439 img="on" closed="yes">Why?! Well, "Use your real name and last initial", that's why. <vote poll=wigo438 img="on" closed="yes">Conservapedia has gained inside information about what Obama was really doing in Kenya when he claimed to be finding facts. The sources are perfect, unless you happen to notice that the cite really brings you to the edit main page screen <vote poll=wigo437 img="on" closed="yes">...but since we always assume good faith, we decided not to ban you. <vote poll=wigo436 img="on" closed="yes">Sorry Andy, quick question, what the fuck are you talking about? And BrianCo, perhaps you could explain your position on classroom prayer? <vote poll=wigo435 img="on" closed="yes">Bugler counts. His count is questioned. The master counts, too. This count is also wrong. We can't have this. <vote poll=wigo434 img="on" closed="yes">And in a booming voice from the heavens, Andy commanded his followers, and Andy told them what they must do, and it was so. UPDATE: That "allegedly" happened, regardless of evidence. <vote poll=wigo433 img="on" closed="yes">DeanS knows exactly how to improve reader comprehension: Wikilink every freaking word in the headline <vote poll=wigo432 img="on" closed="yes">One would think that the teacher of the largest American history class everTM would know the Democratic party of 1865 is nothing like the Democratic party of 2008 <vote poll=wigo431 img="on" closed="yes">Now hold on there, Philip. How does blaming Darwinism (WTF?) for lack of regulation and the acts of robber barons in the late 1800's/early 1900's square with Andy's praising the "absence of stifling regulation" for the success of the exact same robber barons? <vote poll=wigo430 img="on" closed="yes">Wait, if we've got people suggesting news items, and now people rewriting headlines for those news items, what happens to Crocoite DeanS' job of just posting headlines from right-wing blogs without any changes? <vote poll=wigo429 img="on" closed="yes">LongStop: Andy, your analysis is all wrong. Andy: La la la la. I can't hear you. UPDATE: Oh and please conform to our naming convention. It should be obvious that I want to refer to you by name when I dismiss your points out of hand. Now fuck off. LongStop: You didn't address my point. Andy: This time stay fucked off. <vote poll=wigo428 img="on" closed="yes">As we approach halloween ghosts from the past raise their ugly head. <vote poll=wigo427 img="on" closed="yes">Something that hasn't happened yet, and might not for months, involving sites I won't tell you the name of, who are somehow associated with someone else I won't reveal either, and involving a vague collection of concepts, might or might not happen eventually! Stay tuned for details! <vote poll=wigo426 img="on" closed="yes">Thanks so much, for finding and cleaning up plagiarism. Godspeed! <vote poll=wigo425 img="on" closed="yes">Because, y'know, George Washington might'a been a brotha. <vote poll=wigo424 img="on" closed="yes">Andy ideology: Sarah Palin abusing power to fire a commissioner? Silly. Obama a secret Muslim? Fact! <vote poll=wigo423 img="on" closed="yes">"Unless you agree with me before we start, there's no point having a discussion." UPDATE: Az: "Actually, I admit that I agree with you." Andy: "Aha! So you deny it!  Discussion over.  I win!" <vote poll=wigo422 img="on" closed="yes">Sports? But this is an educational site. No thanks! ( = F*** off!) <vote poll=wigo421 img="on" closed="yes"> wades in. Cue JM hissyfit in 3...2...1... Here it is: Joaquin's response (he doesn't agree, by the way - no surprise there!). Hsmom rebuts <vote poll=wigo420 img="on" closed="yes">Hey Koward, instead of just sitting on your ass while Hsmom does all the work, why don't you be a man for once and do some of it yourself? Especially since you added a lot of that plagiarism yourself. <vote poll=wigo419 img="on" closed="yes">Hey, class, Bethany doesn't know the election of 1800 from the War of 1812! No, wait, Bethany didn't write that for #1. So, what's going on? Is this Andy finally getting back at Bethany for her refusal to stay in the kitchen? UPDATE: "Bethany, you dope, Veronika got it right... What's wrong with you?" <vote poll=wigo418 img="on" closed="yes">"What time is now from where you edit?" - Andy found a measurement for greatness he excels in! (But not the English language). <vote poll=wigo417 img="on" closed="yes">Wait, does Andy think that the stock market is tied to gay marriage? Oh, he was trying to make a joke. Stick to your day job Andy, whatever that may be. <vote poll=wigo416 img="on" closed="yes">Andy is now using irrelevant personal recollections, or lack thereof, in his hatchet job. <vote poll=wigo415 img="on" closed="yes">Don't tell Andy that the NFL requires all prospective draftees to take a standardized IQ test, he may not handle it well <vote poll=wigo414 img="on" closed="yes">Forrest Gump is unquestionably a liberal movie. Read the whole discussion; no one diff covers its inanity. <vote poll=wigo413 img="on" closed="yes">Looks like Andy doesn't agree that Barack Obama is black. <vote poll=wigo411 img="on" closed="yes">Cheap Joke of the Day: Funny how--when the subject of gender differences comes up--Andy's mind immediately goes to something long and hard, that goes in dry and comes out wet, and is full of seamen. <vote poll=wigo410 img="on" closed="yes">The first name plus last initial policy is explained, at last... UPDATE: Hey, I found a loophole! <vote poll=wigo409 img="on" closed="yes">Holy. Shit. Andy's deep ridden misogyny on display for the world. UPDATE: Our heroine, Li'l Bethany, weighs in. Andy's response: That's cute, now why don't you run along and bake us some cupcakes? UPDATE: There's a good girl. Now, you've learned something. UPDATE: Point taken. But is Andy considering adding a physical component to the history test? <vote poll=wigo408 img="on" closed="yes">Andy the educator: Explain the motivation behind this totally unreadable cartoon. Here, let me give you a hint. <vote poll=wigo407 img="on" closed="yes">Sex with a woman during her menstrual period is a sin, and we need to cite a fundamentalist crackpot web site about that. No we don't. Yes we do. <vote poll=wigo406 img="on" closed="yes">Could Andy be anticipating the outcome of the election by adding "Inappropriate edit to Obama entry" as a drop-down option when blocking users? <vote poll=wigo405 img="on" closed="yes">This is what happens when a person who hasn't seen a movie decides to write not just a summary of that movie, but an analysis of the inner message. Ebert's been going to a lot of unnecessary trouble all these years, it seems. <vote poll=wigo404 img="on" closed="yes">So to paraphrase PJR's rock solid argument - "The earth is 6000 years old because the Bible says so". Thats some convincing argument there Big Phil <vote poll=wigo403 img="on" closed="yes">After reading TWIGO the "fixes" the featured Mexico article. "Hey, everybody look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me!" STFU!!! <vote poll=wigo402 img="on" closed="yes">Would you care to back up your accusations of liberal denial with facts? No, I'd rather not. <vote poll=wigo401 img="on" closed="yes">Less is more. <vote poll=wigo400 img="on" closed="yes">When confronted about rampant grade inflation in his class, Andy has a novel response: 1. My kids don't steal from one another, which is more important than learning history in a history class, and 2. don't worry, you're just looking at homework, when it comes time for them to take the test they'll all fail. UPDATE: Also, you know you don't have to answer questions from people you don't like, don't you? <vote poll=wigo399 img="on" closed="yes">In the middle of the night, when no one is watching, Hitler makes his return. Ooh, if I drag things back out of the archive to make the right side a bit longer, maybe no one will notice? <vote poll=wigo398 img="on" closed="yes">With the nation bracing for the financial storm of the century, what is Conservapedia worried about? The fact that Representative Barney Frank is gay. Way to focus on the issues, guys. <vote poll=wigo397 img="on" closed="yes">Birth of the Bugler EffectTM? Now vociferously defending Andy is a punishable offence. <vote poll=wigo396 img="on" closed="yes">Conservative on his knees in front of the entire country of Finland. Update: A Finn responds and Andy censors <vote poll=wigo395 img="on" closed="yes">Hey Andy, there's this new user and I'd like to vouch for them. Oh. You know what, forget it. <vote poll=wigo394 img="on" closed="yes">Dear Horace! What part of tabula rasa didn't you understand? UPDATE: Tabula rasa? damnatio memoriae! <vote poll=wigo393 img="on" closed="yes">Ken's got himself a sock. <vote poll=wigo392 img="on" closed="yes">The careful observer will note that Karajou is even above causality. <vote poll=wigo391 img="on" closed="yes">Have you stopped beating your wife Andy? <vote poll=wigo390 img="on" closed="yes">Uh, what the fuck, Andy?. <vote poll=wigo389 img="on" closed="yes">We know it's bad form to give too much attention to Ken, but this edit raises the ToE article to such heights of absurd self-parody that even William Shatner would say "Dude, too much." <vote poll=wigo388 img="on" closed="yes">What better way of spinning the debate between VP candidates than stating Biden's mistakes from YOUR OWN BLOG. Extra lulz for Roger's ending "(Joe) Biden just proved that he is doofus." Those Schlaflys sure can write English good can't they? <vote poll=wigo387 img="on" closed="yes">Nothing says "Welcome to our community, thanks for making many small, yet constructive edits" like "BillyR inserted a disfavored spelling; check his other edits". <vote poll=wigo386 img="on" closed="yes">We're in ur homskolls, lowerin' ur standards. <vote poll=wigo385 img="on" closed="yes">Call to you so clearly / But you don’t want to hear me / Told you everything loud and clear / But nobody’s listening... I am listening. STFU <vote poll=wigo384 img="on" closed="yes">Someone should remind Dean that the MPAA hasn't used the X rating for mainstream films for 18 years. UPDATE:oh look, someone did. It's been nice knowing you kid. UPDATE: Insisting on accuracy is Liberal trolling. <vote poll=wigo383 img="on" closed="yes">We know Karajou mostly from his copy-paste fests for country articles and from his banhammer orgies. But what happens when another sysop questions the factual accuracy of something apparently first added by him? <vote poll=wigo382 img="on" closed="yes"> How long will this stay up on the main page? <vote poll=wigo381 img="on" closed="yes">This poor bastard goes on Wikipedia to beg Ed for help in removing a grossly unfair ban. He'll learn the truth soon enough. Update It appears Wikipedia is indeed a cesspit of liberals given the disdain with which Conservapedia is viewed over there. <vote poll=wigo380 img="on" closed="yes">"Andy, Bugler is making throughly inappropriate remarks". "IanG, add something of value or you will be blocked". Way to go on the oversight Andy. You fucking nitwit. UPDATE: "Now look here, my good man. <vote poll=wigo379 img="on" closed="yes">Bugler displays his muscular debating techniques <vote poll=wigo378 img="on" closed="yes">Left hand: "There is no policy to lock featured articles." - Right hand: "What are you talking about, dude?" <vote poll=wigo377 img="on" closed="yes">Obama's confusion about which concentration camp his great-uncle liberated is exactly like dropping the n-bomb <vote poll=wigo376 img="on" closed="yes">While there is just so much wrong with Andy's new entry on "Obama Syndrome," the best part is the bit about "wikis like Conservapedia." Like there's more than one. UPDATE: Thanks Andy, that cite really clears things up. <vote poll=wigo375 img="on" closed="yes">PJR to Andy: You're an idiot. <vote poll=wigo374 img="on" closed="yes">You've gotta hand it to the kid, he has balls. <vote poll=wigo373 img="on" closed="yes">Good, harmless, bigoted fun <vote poll=wigo372 img="on" closed="yes">Conservapedia the pantomime: "Is Bugler an insulting little sh*t?" "Oh yes he is!" "Oh no he isn't!" <vote poll=wigo371 img="on" closed="yes">Question: Andy, how can you block someone for 90/10 after one edit? Answer: Shut up or I'll block you too, once I've flexed my genius mathematical chops. <vote poll=wigo370 img="on" closed="yes">Pay no attention to the conservative behind the curtain. <vote poll=wigo369 img="on" closed="yes">Andy casts doubt on Kathleen Parker's conserv-a-cred, presumably because she was critical of Ice Princess Palin. Small wonder, given the raving liberal site she regularly contributes to. <vote poll=wigo368 img="on" closed="yes">"The MSM is evil and lies about everything!" "It's great you're here to say that; where'd you find us?" "The MSM." Pop! <vote poll=wigo367 img="on" closed="yes">Will Andy respond and use his executive oversight? Or will Bugler wake from his sleep of the dead and produce a rash of Banhammerings? <vote poll=wigo366 img="on" closed="yes">Whoah, hey there, JM. Make sure to read your quotes first and ensure that they're family friendly. <vote poll=wigo365 img="on" closed="yes">It is not a hatchet job on Obama, it is a great insight. UPDATE - Andy just won't let it go. <vote poll=wigo364 img="on" closed="yes">It's official, moronic vandalism, while similar to, is not the same as liberal vandalism. Whew!