User talk:Techpriest/Archive2

Are you from the Netherlands
? Iwillprobablygetbanned (Reply) 12:44, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am. 14:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations
—cosmikdebris talk stalk 02:59, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Congrats on your victory, fellow new mod! I expect you to make a most effective moderator, given the expertise you showed in the Mob v. Techs Coop case. -- Goatspeed. 05:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The mob has chosen wisely. Congratulations. Spud (talk) 05:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Aww thanks guys! I promise to do a terrible awful  mediocre try to do a decent job as a mod. Feel freee to yell at me in ATIM for mistakes tho!  07:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Quick question, who can I complain to upgrade RW to the latest version of media wiki? A mod, a tech, or a foundation member? 03:49, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Foundation members and users with webserver access. The former can instruct the latter to upgrade the tooling and appoint people for the latter. The users with webserver access can do the upgrade itself. 08:06, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Riot article
Sorry I reverted you, but you nuked the list of uncited participant names just as I was adding another citation for one of the participants that you nuked. Please be aware that some of us are heavily scrutinizing this list and making sure all the names are properly cited. Thanks. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 22:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel free to use the diff as reference as to where the names should go. Citations should be considered a requirement on the initial edit, not post-facto imho. 22:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I will delete names without references as I find them. However some of the uncited people clearly were at the event, e.g. Baked Alaska and Nick Fuentes, and whoever added them was too lazy to include a proper citation. It's much easier to start with a suspect list than create one out of thin air. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 22:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair, I'll give you some time to correct some of the references. Just don't forget to snipe the ones that aren't referenced. 22:19, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Oxy is right to an extent.
You weren’t here to see Oxy and her former buddy Dysk indef block me under BS circumstances and accuse every other troll of being me (and accuse me of being responsible for some of the most vile garbage ever posted to this site because the troll also used T-Mobile). You were ‘t here to see Oxyaena literally engage in criminal activity that would have been enough to at least get my local court to issue a restraining order, if not an arrest warrant. Do you see me doing anything malicious enough to warrant block 1/3 of all US wireless users, in an era in which people are ditching wired internet for 5G? And before anyone from the peanut gallery says I am a “banned user”, show me the coop discussion where I was indef banned, following the CS. I want to see the link. It NEVER happened, I’m fact, numerous users opposed doing so. 2607:FB90:4296:828F:816B:761C:979A:AF4E (talk) 12:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * the fuck. who even are you? also oxy uses she afaik. 12:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Honest mistake, like Ace does. Also really? Link to the coop case or GTFO.
 * What was your username? IveBeenFrank (talk) 12:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * DMorris2 (sometimes just referred to as Morris or DMorris), What a Wonderful World (sometimes referred to as WWW). 2607:FB90:929D:3F6:A4D0:399E:616D:8BD0 (talk) 12:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * And as much as I’d love to continue discussion all day long, I’m going to have to get ready for work soon (a government job, which required an FBI fingerprint check to get). I will say this about my past, I have autism like Oxy and Sivert (per their own admission on-wiki). Anyway, have a nice day. 2607:FB90:929D:3F6:A4D0:399E:616D:8BD0 (talk) 12:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Dude, you need a life-Hastur! (talk) 13:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Most people involved in wikis in anyway need a life (or at least that’s what someone I knew in high school said)... 2607:FB90:929D:3F6:A4D0:399E:616D:8BD0 (talk) 13:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The coop vote for WWW was invalid, and as a result I unblocked that account. Do not make me regret this. IveBeenFrank (talk) 13:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Set up an appeal first-Hastur! (talk) 14:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you doing that, but I don’t think the time for this is now. I have another account that I’ve been wikignoming with, and some day I will approach a moderator (Ace perhaps?) to discuss overturning the illegitimate “ban”, but I honestly don’t want to continue at RW with an identity linked to CP/WP/real life, especially considering two people were attempting to cyberstalk me not to long ago. I’d just be interested in making the old accounts vanish vs. trying to tie me (a government employee who works with a vulnerable population) to criminal activity. I cannot further comment about who I am offline as that would give certain individuals free reign to stalk me and I’d have no legal recourse to stop it, but I can email a picture of my credential to a trustworthy person who assures me that Oxy and Dysk will never see it to confirm. 2607:FB90:929D:3F6:A4D0:399E:616D:8BD0 (talk) 14:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Morris doxxed people. I will strongly oppose any attempt to unblock him. 15:00, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Evidence? IveBeenFrank (talk) 15:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * We archive shit for a reason, you know. — Oxyaena Harass  15:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Check his ban coop. 15:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * To quote the Duce in the coop case: "I also don't see the case for doxxing; I doubt WWW is trying to instigate sexual harassment against his own girlfriend. His edit seems more like a case of bad judgement than anything else. I no fan of WWW, but I see no reason to keep him banned." IveBeenFrank (talk) 15:08, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd also suggest this incident. Furthermore, Morris sowed a ton of deliberate confusion from his general tenure on the wiki. I also see this as a case of doxxing, I don't share Duce's opinion here. 15:12, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * How is that an example of WWW's bad behavior? Throughout the entire exchange, it is KingDamian who repeatedly threatens to harm and dox WWW.IveBeenFrank (talk) 15:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You failed to understand the incident. It opens with WWW being warned to not threaten people again. KingDamian escalated stupidly as well, but WWW seems to have been the instigator. I am not vindicating KingDamian here. 15:22, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Is there any way to see the original threat that WWW supposedly made? IveBeenFrank (talk) 15:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That whole thing with KD1 came from this edit, which I don't see how it was doxxing or threating KD1's mother (though it could well be seen as a legal threat, and is certainly seen by me as dragging CP drama over to this wiki). But since this issue has the potential to get pretty heated, and since WWW claims to not want to peruse an unblock, I suggest archiving the coop and everyone moving on. --RWRW (talk) 15:25, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Probably, but I cannot be arsed. Frank, I'll repeat it once more; Can you please drop it. Morris doxxed people from my perspective. I don't care if it was his girlfriend, I don't care if it was an accident, the fact that he doxxed someone and deliberately sought to sow confusion about his doxxing (rather than admitting a mistake and apologizing, which could reasonably earn him a second chance from me) is enough for me to be unconvinced that he should be anything but kept permablocked. Now I suggest going to the Coop and off of my fucking talkpage or I'm gonna start collapsing this shit. 15:27, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, there's that, and also the fact that he harassed me for months. — Oxyaena Harass  15:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I told y'all to take it to the coop. Take it there. 15:53, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Dutch childcare scandal
Your opinion, as a dutch? Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 13:08, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I find it nothing short of disgusting and a bureaucratic error of insane proportions. Personally I'm the most disappointed in the Labor Party, although I don't vote Labor. With VVD you can like, half expect them to not really give a huge shit about this stuff (they're the regular right wing party, they explicitly are more for the middle class who can fund their own stuff so like, it's expected), same with CDA (light christian party). Labor is like, at least supposed to be for the people affected, so this happening feels rather... painful-ish? As for the recent resignation of government, I kinda am of the mindset of "what's the point". Like, I guess it had to happen? But we'd be having 2nd chamber elections in march anyway which makes the resignation of the government kinda pointless. Asscher (Labor leader) quitting I think is a good step forward, same for Wiebes (VVD minister of finances). Those two just have received too much taint about this whole affair. Rutte resigning would be... interesting but I ultimately think that would be counter-productive with the COVID pandemic and as a general rule Rutte is fairly competent so I think that would likely be less than useful. Personally, this will be my first election I get to vote in, and I can at least assure you that I won't be voting VVD or CDA. 13:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So PvdA or Groenlinks? And look at the polls, VVD and PVV are still high even after the scandal. Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 13:37, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I prefer D66. PvdA is Labor. PVV wasn't involved, but sucks regardless. VVD is interesting because most of their voting base doesn't seem to give that much of a shit about it? Which is I guess concerning in and of itself, but OTOH, VVD has also been working to get this entire incident uncovered so it's like... difficult to really grasp whether or not this would hurt them, given most of their voters seem to still prefer them. PvdA and CDA risk much more in popularity because they don't have the guaranteed block that VVD basically has. 15:06, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

How do you feel about being outshined by the sun and human light pollution (eventually)
Well!?!? Orion's not looking too stunning these nights. And also do you know his armpit will blow up in a few hundred million years? 21:34, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I will still be shining, just not at this earth anymore. 22:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Will there be a day where humanity's only hope for truly dark skies will be on the moon or North Korea? 02:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I feel we are at that point already. Also isn't there the Sahara? 08:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Greater Netherlands (Groot-Nederland)
Do you support it? (If the Netherlands and dutch/flemish part of belgium become one country.) Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 07:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes for meme reasons (ANNEX BELGIUM). In practice, I don't really care either way. I've only ever seen it used as a joke by friends. 09:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Alpharius
Who's Alpharius? Kevlarstar and his dog (Woof!) 09:26, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * He's the primarch of the Alpha Legion of Warhammer 40k. "I am Alpharius" comes from the Alpha Legion's only way of identifying themselves to other combatants. The reason for the identification being that Alpharius is slightly smaller than most primarchs, allowing him to blend in with his own legion, which allows every Alpha Legion to lay claim to being Alpharius to sow confusion. 11:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Advice regarding incel
Hey mate, just thought I’d ask a veteran a bunch of q’s before implementing them. Regarding the talk:incel drama, I want to move past all the personal insults and bullshit and push for a productive conversation. What i’d like to do is archive the existing talk page, and start fresh by proposing an upcoming vote on a number of items, idea being those items would dictate the structure by which we make changes to the topic(s).

Questions: can I just archive all the existing stuff?

Anything I should know when creating a vote? Planning on formatting it similar to the Coop, though if there is another template or example you would recommend please let me know.

Unstructured poll will be shortly posted to my sandbox if you want to comment on that.

Ps: accidentally posted this to your user page. Blaming mobile again ahahaKauri0.o (talk) 03:34, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * oh you bet it's archived, screenshotted, and shared on twitter, and with hundreds of men and women on Facebook and external forums suffering from ED, vaginismus, and wide range of conditions that makes it so the cannot have sexual intercourse. Not saying this to shame or make anyone feel bad, it's just good involuntary celibates know about developments in their portrayal on large websites https://archive.is/z2Vs1
 * haha and yea sorry for the drama lulz is it ok now that the author LANBd from articles if I just delete all the relevant talk, start fresh with my own article and have everyone vote on new additions to a page about a topic that isn't topical anymore, that everyone liked for years as if they didn't, which in the end just capitulates to incels.co and random sensationalist journalistsNeiltyson1fan (talk) 04:06, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * just want to make sure a mod is on my side so that I can do whatever I want k thx Neiltyson1fan (talk) 04:12, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I’m not here to fight, but I would request you neither delete the talk nor start any new related articles. Kauri0.o (talk) 04:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * thought you might also have some advice too if you’d be so kind! Kauri0.o (talk) 05:02, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * don’t stress. Help with solution to the shitstorm I started :’D Kauri0.o (talk) 05:20, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't worry mistakes happen wrt the userpage thing. As for existing stuff, the entire page history is archived. I've just enabled Inferno to start going over the Incels page, so mot of the older discussions should be archived automatically. Please don't try to manually archive, it makes the bot unhappy. All but the 5 most recent topics will be moved to an archive page on it's own. Anything you should know about a vote: Eh, it's all pretty freeform. Make a yay/nay/goat section, get some people to talk about it at least (if you want attention to be brought put it in the bar) and once it has been around for a bit (really it can be anywhere from days to 9-12 hours) you can close the vote and act accordingly.
 * Also Neil could you really just stop being such a drama queen jesus christ. It's a fucking wikipage. All diffs are kept and maintained and if you *really* want to you can bring in an uncategorized copy to your own user subpage like you did with MMT. 10:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Guess if you really don't like the conversation, you can collapse it as an alternative to archiving it. 10:31, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thankyou! I'll make it a freeform vote and look at collapsing the irrelevant shit. Kauri0.o (talk) 10:34, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As an aside - I noticed Template:Talkpage. Would you say that template is a good option for user talk pages, and bots should generally be used for articles? Kauri0.o (talk) 10:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Template talkpage is what displays the little archive header on a talkpage with the numbers and is inserted to show the other talk archives on archived pages. User talkpages are really up to your own disgression. I use Inferno for that myself, many others do as well. Other editors (ie. Oxy jumps to mind) tend to prefer manual archival every once in a while. The only thing you should be aware of with your talkpage is that it's size will directly affect how long it takes to save the page so it -is- in your best interest to keep your talkpage from becoming a 150kb beast. Inferno takes a lot of the difficulty out of managing that. 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)