User talk:Pink/Archive I

Greetings, 85 25 151 22! Welcome to the ! -- 19:07, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Eh, hows'abouts I just call you "85"? -- 19:07, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Only if I can call you Rad.85 25 151 22 19:14, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Fine, fine Mr. OhGodanothernumberIhavetomemorizeontopofmysocialsecuritycreditcardandbankaccountnumbers. -- 19:16, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * You're a syclops, right? You should lock SHaHB's user page before that notorious sandal ShaBB changes it from its current state. Hurry!85 25 151 22 19:21, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Nah. On principle I won't use my sysop powers to abuse SHahB.  I'll abuse him using the same tools everyone else has.  But I will revert him!  : )  -- 20:21, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I like your style Radman. But you should know, we're commandeering recent changes for a cheap giggle at the moment. Well... I am. Shabby looks to have vanished.85.25.151.22 20:23, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I is back. SHahB

He just called you "immature". Ouch. SHahB 20:25, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * He's obviously not as clueless as he seems, Shabby my friend.85.25.151.22 20:28, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Lets take it to Ed Schultz. SHahB 20:28, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Convenient edit button
Welcome to the Dollhouse, "not quite a bunch of numbers"! human  21:41, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Stop discriminating against numbers. SHahB 21:42, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * The leopard doesn't change its shorts, Shabby.85.25.151.22 21:44, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Unsubstantiated slur
Please don't take this the wrong way. I am not accusing you of anything. But are you a sockpuppet? SHahB 19:55, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * How dare you! Probably. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 19:57, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I am going to list a number of users.

Please read them as many times as you need. I will determine whose sock you are based upon your next edit. Thanks, SHahB 20:00, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Human
 * RA
 * AKjeldsen
 * AmesG This is beyond him
 * HeartOfGold
 * Fox
 * Tmtoulouse
 * SusanG
 * It's definitely not RA. No siree. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 20:01, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * You're Susan. SHahB
 * Nope. Most important reason: Susan can't read talk pages that have too many indents.&mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 20:04, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Henry, you're making an obvious mistake here in assuming that any given individual only has one essential identity, and that any other identity assumed by that individual can be dismissed as a "sockpuppet." This is obviously not in keeping with the fluid nature of identities on the Internet. -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 20:06, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Shut up, User:Human. SHahB 20:07, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Also, why is this "beyond" AmesG? Isn't he the Arch-Sockpuppeteer and Warden of the White Isle?&mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 20:08, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * No, he isn't bright enough to run a sock. SHahB 20:09, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * So you're telling me that if I go through your contributions on CP I won't find any blocks with the summary "sock of AmesG"?&mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 20:10, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Go ahead and look. If you find any, its probably deceit. SHahB 20:13, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Of course! It all makes sense now! And why HeartOfGold? Do you have such a low opinion of him that you envision him returning to RW through an irreverant sockpuppet?&mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 20:17, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * No. I miss HG.  I wan't him to come back. SHahB 20:18, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Interesting use of elision. Isn't HeartyGould welcome at CP then? Hmmm?&mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 20:21, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Of course he is welcome at CP. Why wouldn't he be? SHahB 20:23, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Because he was permabanned? -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 20:25, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * (Edit conflict) Well, it seems that TK blocked him for an infinite amount of time and deleted his userpages for a start. HG was before my time, but I was under the impression that there'd been some kind of falling out over there? Was I wrong?&mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.25.151.22 / talk / contribs 20:28, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh? I thought he left because he didn't get Sysop?--Bobbing up 15:37, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * That was here, wasn't it? Or did the same thing happen at CP also?&mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 15:38, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Here he left after his Sysop powers were removed. I think the story should be on a page called something like "Administrative Abuse".  I'm sure of that part.  I thought he left CP in a "Hissy Fit" after not getting Sysop - but I'm not so sure of that one.--Bobbing up 15:46, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

(Undent) Somehow I got it into my head that HG had been banned at CP because some of the more ruthless sysops suspected him of being a deep cover sock. I can't find anything in his contributions to back that up, though. I'm probably thinking of someone else.&mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 15:51, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * A quick look through the SDG supports your statement. NightFlareSpeak, mortal 16:06, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Really? Excellent. I win again.&mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 16:11, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * YOU'RE WINNER! -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 18:34, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * &mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 18:35, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * You're not familiar with Big Rigs? Worst computer game ever produced? -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 18:38, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * That honour goes to Custer's Revenge, I believe. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
 * Nah, I'd disagree. Tasteless as it is, Custer's Revenge at least works technically, so you're getting the gameplay you're paying for, such as it is. Big Rigs didn't even have that redeeming feature. -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 18:54, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * (Edit conflict) I am now. Heh. How did such a classic pass me by???&mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs
 * Be sure to check out the reviews. Big Rigs caused an unusually high level of creative writing among reviewers. -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 18:54, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh dear oh dear oh dear... I suppose they ran out of time and were forced to release it half-finished or something? I've seen graphics a lot worse than that, though, funnily enough...&mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 19:07, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Be sure to check out the reviews. Big Rigs caused an unusually high level of creative writing among reviewers. -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 18:54, 11 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh dear oh dear oh dear... I suppose they ran out of time and were forced to release it half-finished or something? I've seen graphics a lot worse than that, though, funnily enough...&mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 19:07, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

rndnum
Shouldn't it be from 000 to 255? human  23:35, 9 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't really know how IPs work in that respect -- what the range of any of the numbers should be. I just went by what looked right.&mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 23:38, 9 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I gave you a clue. They are from 0 to 255. Do with what it you will (that's an awesome fucked up sentence!) human  23:42, 9 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Could, yes, per your edit comment - smaht fella! human 

Irony
Comments from someone who won't even get a proper user name are worthless. Choose 22:26, 12 May 2008 (EDT) Do you get a charge out of sticking your beak in where it's not needed Mr NoName? TweaKTweak 23:24, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Obviously! TweaKTweak 23:31, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Sign In Already!
I was, for a moment, both gracious and exceedingly confused as to why an BON user could block. Uchiha KATON! 18:39, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Excellent! My evil schemes have worked, then! I saw you reverting my "vandalism" and then realising what happened, but that can't be as funny as seeing an IP address block a registered user. I wish I could have been you for those three seconds. Priceless. 18:41, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

WP link issue
Well, geez, nothing can go wrong with that, can it? Might it not be easier to create a template saying that WP links should, if possible, be replaced with internal links rather than leaving someone without an easy way to find the intended information on the other side of the hyperlink? It's really not a good idea to sacrifice usability and accessibility for a hopeful future link -- that just expands the list of red links while leaving the person looking for further information high and dry. Not at all a good idea, sez I. EVDebs 19:19, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm not the originator of this nefarious scheme. I was just playing along because the logic behind it seemed to make sense. The others are debating it on user talk:wpbot if you want to disagree with someone important.
 * I like getting new messages, though. :) 19:22, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * People come here for information??? I don't think a red link leaves someone high and dry, if they're browsin' RW, they've probably heard of, and can spell, wickipedia on their own. PS, I prefer in many cases simply axing the link. human  19:41, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Mmmmmm. More lovely new messages. :) &mdash; Unsigned, by: ... / talk / contribs 19:42, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes, isn't that orange bar delightful? human  20:19, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes! Yes, it is! 20:27, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Blocking
Please untick block last used IP address when you joke block, it makes things easier. 21:19, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Sorry :( 21:21, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 * No worries. 21:23, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Test
Test is best. 16:11, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * let's try that again... 16:13, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Excellent... 16:15, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Glad to see you fixed your sig on your own. I was in the middle of posting instructions for fixing it when you edit conflicted me.  *Sob*  N00bs just grow up so fast!  -- 16:20, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Is a doubletemplate really the best way to fix that? Also, is there a way I can keep the talk link from going bold on this page? 16:21, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Double-templating is what I was taught—ain't it good enough for you? : )  And you can't prevent your talk link from bolding on this page.  It does that because it's already on your talk page, so the link "dies", so to speak.  -- 16:40, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I bet you anything I can de-bold it! 16:41, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * No you can't....but I can. 16:43, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I can, actually. I can make it an external link, if you see what I mean. It won't realise it points here. 16:45, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Or you can make it point to a page that redirects here! 70.91.248.249 16:46, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes. On reflection that is a much better idea. 16:48, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Rename
Given that your signature now reads "Jellyfish", you've started calling yourself Jellyfish, and CP-watchers know you as Jellyfish, why don't you just change your name to Jellyfish? -- 16:43, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I cherish confusion and chaos. And I'd like to retain the option to look like an anonymous IP every now and then. It doesn't work the other way round. 16:46, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * FYI, I'm logging off for the day, so I won't be available 'til tomorrow. Bye!  -- 16:47, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * G'bye :) 16:50, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

A Random Comment (you were warned!)
Box or Man-of-war?  L y  r  a   (dust)  01:20, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Neither, Miss Silvertongue! I am a much rarer variation -- a purple jellyfish. 18:32, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Man-of-wars are siphonores, not jellyfish. And looking back at my own comments, I realize I was confusing siphonores with jellyfish as well.  -- 12:11, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I would hope he is a moon jellyfish (Aurelia aurita), because " they can be recognized by their horseshoe-shaped gonads " (which is the most priceless line ever written on Wikipedia). -- 12:11, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Agreed. The phrase "horseshoe-shaped gonads" alone makes it gold.  18:32, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

That Coyote, That One...
The name is a nod to Coyote, a recurring character in Thomas King's novels and short stories. Coyote is a Native American trickster figure (similar to Anansi in West Africa) and King often refers to him a "That Coyote, That One..." We call him Coyote for short. And he's bad in loveable way, just like the figure he was named after...PFoster 19:35, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Aww. Most jellyfishen don't like cats, but they are foolish. 19:37, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the LOLz XD
Hehe! I soon found out how to unblock someone after your block of me :D Spica the Hiver  If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 17:06, 17 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's customary to begin your reign of terror by blocking Bohdan, so go nuts. :) 17:08, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

[Q]
You can remove the external link from ur sig by adding " ... " Or at least I think so...  L y  r  a     00:07, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I quite like the little blue thing on the end, though. It goes with the red and purple very nicely :) 00:09, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * He did it intentionally be including the entire url - all he'd have to do to get rid of it is drop the http://rationalwiki.com/ part. human  01:50, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

DanH
Let's take off and nuke the fucker from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Spica the Hiver  If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 17:13, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * For this we need all three of our RW stars! Bring me Helios and Proxima Centauri! To the space shuttles, at once! For great justice!  17:18, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Wibble! Spica the Hiver  If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 17:20, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * DanH's not so bad, really. He hasn't yet banned cp:user:IndentTower, so he's obviously not as paranoid as I thought :D Even if he does think I'm Ames. 17:23, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I banned him from here for 3 days under CCC protocol (i.e. cos I'm a fucking GIT). At least it's only 3 days, and not 5 years as I initially wanted. Spica the Hiver  If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 17:26, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * He probably won't notice, but I don't think there's much point blocking CP sysops over here (except for amusement -- check his block log for my one :D) At least when Dan's unblocked he sometimes explains himself, or otherwise uses his time contructively. Unlike TK, for example... :( 17:30, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Block link in sig
You are treading on thin ice, my friend, very thin. I can't even use it and have already clicked it several times. 22:41, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 * It didn't look right with just two links :( I'm sure none of our fine, upstanding sysops will ever want to click it. Unless they're really bored... 22:45, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Jimxchue
I don't think he's a deep cover sock. He hails from Wikipedia, which he was booted off for, essentially, being an unproductive asshole. 21:33, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Doesn't have to be the same Jinxmchue! But seriously, tell me more. Are you an old aquaintance of this person? 21:39, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Nah, I don't know him. But I was snooping around talk pages, checking out what our old friends at CP were doing before CP when I came across him.  Here is a classic example of the sort of pointed, caustic arguments he gets into (I diff linked the entire argument for your convenience).  Actually, that entire talk page is one the reasons he is so unpopular—he really is an immense asshole.  But his crowning achievement is on talk:Midge Potts (also check the archive), where Jinxmchue insisted that the transgender Midge Potts does not count as a woman, and therefore the article should refer to her as "he".  Although being an asshole can't actually get you a long-term ban from Wikipedia—the real reason he got a long ban was that, apparently, whenever he was given light bans to reprimand his behavior, he would sock up and continue the same arguments.


 * I haven't looked him up on Conservapedia yet. What's he like there?   03:23, 26 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Fairly typical. From what I've seen, he seems to spend most of his time complaining about liberal bias, and the state of secular websites -- like Wikipedia. He was one of the main people involved in their discussion about how WP Hosts Evil Pornography TM  that Warps Children's Minds TM . I thought he might be a sock mainly because he focuses on vilifying liberal strawmen rather than rooting for The Conservative Truth -- which is what I tend to do when I sock up.
 * This message was brought to you by a lazy Jellyfish.

Sig
In your sig (I have no idea where it's stored), you can link to your talk page with random text This will remove the annoying arrow that comes at the end of your sig. Same with wikipedia links: random text. Finally, if you don't want to do either of those, you can at least add text and link, as this will also remove the arrows. ThunderkatzHo! 22:39, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
 * But I like the damn arrows! I'm afraid Lyra has already suggested that divclass thing (see above), as well. Thanks all the same, though. :) 22:45, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Ahh. But as I had no desire to read your entire talk page, I would not have known that.  Also, when you say you want in, do you mean: 1) You want to bet against me, 2) you want to bet with me, or 3) you want to help me scam thousands of dollars out of these poor suckers? &mdash; Unsigned, by: some thundery cats / talk / contribs
 * It seems a safe bet, therefore I also want money if it turns out to be correct. :) 22:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

ASCHLAFLYS PLEASURE
It is one of the more comical block reasons by Karajou for AmesG "Returning to form, will not return EXCEPT UNDER ASCHLAFLYS PLEASURE" 18:50, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I know, I've borrowed that for my own joke blocks :) Karajou really hates Ames for some reason. 18:56, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I guess Karajou subscribes to the old Roman legal dictum, "what pleases the prince has the force of law." If I were an American, I'd certainly sleep safely at night knowing we had such democratically-minded people in the military defending the Constitution. [[Image:Nods.gif]] -- AKjeldsen Cum dissensie 18:59, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
 * [[image:Nods.gif]] (<-- he nods in agreement) 19:02, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

Promotion
Congratulations on your recent promotion! Anyway, you still have teh pledge on your user page, just to let you know. And, now that you don't have a banhammer, can I call you "Bohdan?" 17:55, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Sure. SHahB 17:56, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Never! I won't become one of you, OscarBohdanTmDoggedlouseG! And secondly... I guess I'll have to take my pledge down. That's a shame :( 18:00, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
 * You always were a rebellious sock. SHahB 18:06, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Resistence is futile. SHahB 18:07, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Ooh, you're evil Lyra. :) 18:10, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
 * [[Image:Nods.gif]] .... [[Image:Shifty.gif]] 18:17, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh and thanks for making me your hypothetical robot. I was oddly touched.
 * But I have to sleep now... 18:48, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

Nothingness line
I could meta-analyze it, but since I'm feeling lazy, I'll just ask you:  20:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

Fine, I will. The argument over "nothing" has been a point of contention for me. Nothingness does not exist. Saying that means that you are also saying that "nothing exists," "nothing is real," and "nothing is something." This is clearly not true, because of "cogito ergo sum." 20:55, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Nothing is not comprehensible. Neither you nor I have any hope of understanding just what it is and what it does.
 * : )  04:16, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * By the way, you have a page devoted to you at RWW, I just noticed. 16:13, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Excellent! Now I wonder who this "Sic Vita Est" might be...? 16:19, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * That's life! SHahB (Sir Henry and his Butlers, of course!) 16:29, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I just whipped up a Jellyfish account on RWW. Is there a page on you yet, do you think? 16:37, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Of course not! :P I haven't, you know, done anything yet. The site is mostly for documenting events, not users. 16:43, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Course you have. You've clashed with Susan, which was enough to catapult MarcusCicero to stardom. And your departure from Liberapedia is interesting in itself, too. 16:48, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I made peace, and plus, others have clashed with Susan as well. Liberapedia has a meta-wiki, incidentally, which has a rather interesting article on me. 16:50, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Random guess: the work of Barbara Shack? How dare you make their articles more theist! 16:56, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yep. Barbara Shack, Elassint, and Ryan. The Three. 17:08, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * That makes them sound far too impressive :) Were you "Mysterious User"? 17:18, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yæs, and Ghost of Lyra Belaqua and I'm looking for Neo. I like Matrix quotes. ;) On those socks, I took full advantage of the fact that there was no checkuser at Liberapedia. 17:26, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * You're lucky DanH wasn't there. He has checkuser installed on his hands. 17:28, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Really blows your mind, doesn't it? Quantum physics tell us all we are TK. 17:38, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * And, to make things worse, TK tells us we're all AmesG. 17:44, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, we are all really Elton John and/or Kiki Dee. :) 17:55, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I hope you're not plotting another Indent Tower. [[image:nonexistent icon of suspicion]] 18:01, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Well Grawped!
That's all &mdash; Unsigned, by: SusanG / talk / contribs
 * That's right -- I win at Grawp. 14:45, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

FYI
Your has been rewritten. 16:58, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I know. I was there the whole time. 17:05, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * By reading it and not objecting, you implicitly endorse the contents of your article. 17:11, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I can't see much wrong with it :) I tweaked it a little bit, too -- hope you don't mind. 17:12, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Two RA socks conversing with each other?! I thought I had seen everything... SHahB 17:25, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * That's not so unusual, Shabby. You should look up Hans's block log. 17:31, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * And SHahB contributing to the conversation makes it three socks. ThunderkatzHo! 17:26, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Four with you, TK. SHahB 17:28, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * 85 'tain't me. If you check his IP address, you'll see his IP is completely different than mine.  Also, his IP is run through a German proxy server... (interestingly, so is FalseFlag —one of the originators of RationalWikiWiki).  You have to pay for that sort of thing, which I am far too cheap to ever do.   17:32, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * It's just a regular exit node, as far as I can see. 17:38, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Meaning they're actually in Germany? More proof it's not me!   17:56, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes -- you Tor at fail. 18:01, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

You are hereby offered…
…a blog!. Offer must be claimed before 3/14/15. No guarantee of perpetual host functionality is made. --λινυσ (☮)
 * It won't seem to let me sign up. Hmmm. 20:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay, it should work now. --λινυσ (☮) 21:10, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * "Registration has been disabled". 21:13, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Should I be logged in first or something? 21:15, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Sadly, I have to go now. If you happen to work out what I'm doing wrong, do leave a message. I'll be back tomorrow. 21:29, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry, I was forced to eat dinner. :( However, it should be functional now. --λινυσ (☮) 21:58, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Snark Removal
You have removed my snark! I demand a snark refund! Wazza (Not Wazzock, Wazza)Approach the Presence 12:59, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You posted in my user page. I demand seventeen palm fronds. 08:44, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

Tony Stewart
While I agree that his work was mainly vandalism, we don't actively dissuade good honest vandalism. Some were borderline some were journeyman, suggesting a youngish editor. Long blocks (more than a few minutes....up to an hour) simply turn a potentially funny wandal into an unfunny page blanker and potential wingnut. I will not undo your present five day block. CЯacke ® 12:25, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You can undo any block of mine if you think it best -- I'm not a real sysop, after all. And Tony Stewart had some far less savoury edits (strangely familiar linkspamming) in his contribs that are now absent because the pages concerned were deleted. 12:32, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Ah I see...and saw. It was a particularly BAD linkspam too, as it took me about an hour to undo all the extra tidbits that wormed their way onto mine computer. Hangings too good for him. CЯacke ®  14:44, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
 * We jellyfish agree :) 07:11, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Jellyblog
You may have to re-register… sorry… --λινυσ (☮) 20:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Sigh.
 * I tried to sign up again, but it objected to my email address, saying it was already taken. Does that mean it will eventually send me a confirmation for the old account, or do I have to get a new address? Could you delete my old attempt somehow so I can still be called jellyfish, or must I be jellyfish1?
 * Damn your evil tech! 07:11, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

SIGNATURE TEST
Test is best. 08:45, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
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Break
Now why does that happen? 08:48, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Thinking aloud:
 * Unsigned -- Unwanted carriage return. Font change.
 * Jellyfish (purple) -- CR. Font.
 * Symbols -- Several CRs. Font change.
 * Jellyfish (blue) -- Fine. Perfect, even.
 * Colorless -- Fine.
 * Diamonds -- Fine. 08:55, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Your signature is ruining the virginity of my talk page. Do you want me to fix it? 15:23, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes! If you can, that is. I can't see any problems with what I have, so I thought I'd discuss it for a while and see if someone craftier would offer to fix it.
 * Thanks, by the way :) 15:26, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Your unwanted CR's are probably followed by a space, which creates that weird box and the font inside it.  ħ uman  15:46, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't understand. There don't seem to be spaces at the end of the templates in question. Surely you don't mean I should get rid of all the spaces in them? 15:53, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * If you look at them carefully, there is often an "editable" place on the line after the end of the sig code. That's your CR.  Four tildes puts a space between the sig and the time/date, and that creates the box, etc.  I don't think my tests below are valid, they need to be generated by four tildes to truly test them.  ħ uman  15:56, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * But you can't get rid of that extra line, can you? And it seems to appear even in the signatures that actually work, like the blue Jellyfish one. 15:59, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I dunno, I deleted in on purple jellyfish (I think) just in case. Can you set the options at sig9 to 1,0,0,0,0,0 (etc.), picking one that phails, and then work through them one at a time? 16:05, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * We already know which ones phail -- it's written above. I still can't see the problem, even bearing that in mind. 16:07, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

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 * That works perfectly. Is it something to do with the option thing, then? 15:56, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes, it did, but it's not a true "test" because of how I had to put it on the page. Why not attack the support files one at a time by locking sig9 to each one until it works right?   ħ uman  15:57, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmmm, this should really be a valid test, because it does look exactly like what your sigs leave behind. Perhaps the problem is all at sig9?  ħ uman  16:07, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

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unsigned - breaks

grey squiggles - breaks

purple jelly - still breaks

The others work. Perhaps the two files together (sig9 + sigX) are generating a CR and a space? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  16:09, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Do you think that's possible? I couldn't find any spaces or returns in sig9 just now. 16:11, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * It must be possible, because it's sig9 that is breaking, the others all work fine on their own, right? Mind if I take a crack at it? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  16:34, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Be my guest! 16:35, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I think I've got it, though you won't like the answer. I remember once trying to "nest" choose tags, and it didn't work.  The three that aren't working are essentially nesting choose tags.  In other words, there may not be a way to do what you want with this software.  I just put everything back "the way it was" (I only edited sig9 really).  Let's google "nesting choose tags mediawiki" now... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  16:49, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Argh, I should have noticed it was only the random ones that failed. Never mind, though -- even if there is no solution, I can probably make do with a random selector that only includes the simpler signatures. 16:52, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Maybe you can try "double nesting" - that is, make "oldersig" be and put the choose junk in "content" just to see if it still breaks? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  16:56, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You mean make the random part into its own template? Doesn't the "unsigned" signature already do something like that? 17:02, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Something like that, I guess. Just try any tricks you can think of to divorce the two sets of choose/option from each other.  And, yeah, you're right, the unsigned one already "tests" that and it doesn't help. :(  Oh well. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  17:39, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I guess what you did with sig11 is the only way out - take all the silly profound sayings and make them their own sig files, at a low option weight relative to the "unchoosing" sigs, all wrapped up in sig9. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  17:40, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * That's far too complicated. My way out it just to go with "Fish can wish" forever. Until I come up with a better solution, anyway. 17:42, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Works for me... glad we got to the bottom of why they were breaking, at least. Sadly, the nested tags half worked, they just created a spurious mess while doing it. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  20:17, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
 * True. It's nice to get messages, too :) 20:23, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

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I saw that Bo'N's edit & wondered what it was all about. At the time I was bouncing between RW & CP & thought it was on CP! Dunno what it was about! 11:51, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I know that feeling! It gets seriously complicated with multiple socks, too. That edit looked helpful on the face of it, it was just arranged so oddly that I had to revert. We can always filter the helpful stuff into the article... 13:26, 5 June 2008 (EDT)