User talk:Miekal/timeline

90,000’s BM: Henai species develops space Flight, and the planet is quickly united under one government.

89,000 BM: Development of the hyper drive.

80,000’s BM: Henai colonize various planets in their system and nearby ones.

Ten thousand years? That's while to be still at it, surely? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 05:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I was vary lazy on some of this so; probably need to fix some dates haha. I think my logic behind it was more the "colonize" part of the deal. plus dates in the pre 2000 era are intentionally vague; it happens through the 80,000's, a way to help me get through time periods faster. -- il' Dictator   Mikal  05:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I dunno about these Henai folk (they seem to have achieved one world govment, after all), but I don't think humans could sustain interest in expansion that took that long. :D Peter Monomorium antarcticum 05:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * When you're species is biologicaly immortal; time isnt much of an issue. Thats always been the defining thing for the Henai; they have a unique death system: either they get killed or they Choose to die. -- il' Dictator   Mikal  05:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Immortal, eh? How does their society function, given the problems that we would see if people stopped dying? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 05:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The religion helps deal with that; it gives the basis of a very ordered society, and just the fact they are immortal; it isnt like our species where death has been with us the entire time, they see death differently because it was never an "inevitability"; although no henai would truly dream of living forever either. Life grows wear when you live for 50 thousand years like the henai who instigated the dark ages, -- il' Dictator   Mikal  05:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * So how does this universe start then? YEC-style goddidit, I assume? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 05:57, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Since I decided on religion as my way out of adding more and more to the story; yes. It works though since it is a Fantasy world; and the religion only really comnes into play at the end of it. The thing is, as can be seen in the Henai Religion page; its very vague on just what happened; all it says is "Polsasi Created the Universe then Chaos corrupted it". -- il' Dictator   Mikal  06:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * But they were around at the time, surely? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 06:08, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Henai? Yah. that doesnt mean all the records or memory still exists. IT helps the religion doesn't actually require you to believe it in order to get to Mai; as long as you act correctly you can believe in total atheism. dont ask for a lot into the fine details of how the species works non-socially; they are outside the main scope of the story and only get as much work onto them as they do because 1) I like the species and 2) they are the single most important part of the backstory as what happens with them set the course for the entire story up to 161 AM -- il' Dictator   Mikal  06:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I'd have thought that immortality would lead to chronic apathy, come to think of it. Peter Monomorium antarcticum 07:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, they can still die; just not of age. True immortality is boring, unless you come from a society where thats always been the thing. mortal beings who become immortal cant cope like immortals could-- il' Dictator   Mikal  07:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * How do they organise politically, beyond simply 'emperor', and how does having a monarch work when he's immortal? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 07:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Again; the species doesnt have a desire to live forever, they still choose to die, as to the political structure, atleast at the time of the empire society was structured like this:

, after the fall of the empire i havent actually decided on a social order. , il'  Dictator   Mikal  07:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Emperor
 * Lower Kings
 * Priests
 * Army
 * Merchants
 * Common People
 * How 'common' are these people? 1600's style? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 07:24, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * more "not in any of the above; everybody else" kind of common, il'  Dictator   Mikal  07:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Is anyone dirt poor in your utopia? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 07:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * utopia? O.o aand oh my yes; there wouldnt be a general directive saying "if you can give to the needy" if there wasnt. read the Henai page, it helps explain some of what drives the society-- il' Dictator   Mikal  07:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. What's this about a "final battle"? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 07:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * the events of 422 AM on the timeline: Esakum, at the height of rebellion, leads an army into the holy realm of Polsasi'pur Polasi, and fights him there with his army. He loses; and is cast back into the galaxy alongside those who fought with him from mai (those who were judged to loi simply face destruction). the story continues but i only have a vague notion of the immediate events afterwards; like i said this was done because I would have kept working on it, and i wanted to end it at some point -- il' Dictator   Mikal  07:50, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * How many worlds, and how many galaxies have you got in your 'universe'? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 07:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Across the timeline and in a handful of other documents i think ive mentioned 30-40 planets by name, but standard galaxies and planet numbers as the real world. this universe is very much like ours, and when magic doesnt get involved (so anything after 161 AM and again after esakums defeat) its pretty much sci-fi. or napoleon references. -- il' Dictator   Mikal  07:57, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Do they have intergalactic travel? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 08:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ive considered it, but the logistics of it would be a bit annoying to work out, so they could but they dont. il'  Dictator   Mikal  08:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What about exiles and fugitives? Could they fly away? And how does colonisation of new worlds work for you, anyway? Are they ready-settleable? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 08:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * they could, but then wede probably never hear of them again (if they left the galaxy). as for inside, it is a big galaxy, and for most of its history never had a full government coverage; especially in BM. As for colonization; depends, some work, some have to be terraformed, some only have habitats il' Dictator   Mikal  08:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * So what's the birthrate like for these immortal people? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 08:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Varied depending on the timeframe,; but peaked and entered a decline a little while (relatively speaking) after the human war; which somewhat is because the people who became "Humans" were also the less magicaly inclined Henai; and therefor the more innovative ones; who the ones they fought tended to be less innovative and therefor hit stagnation eventually-- il' Dictator   Mikal  08:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The humans...were immortal at one point? How did the transition work? Did people just drop dead? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 08:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Humans are henai, who were stripped of the biological immortality when they lost the war. ]bascialy Age became a factor in death. which is why in one of the next posts i describe how the maximum age for humans descends from the thousands to mid hundreds. -- il' Dictator   Mikal  08:39, 14 February 2012 (UTC)