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Am I correct in my understanding that you are attempting a PhD in disproving the Big Bang? Also, what on earth do mean when you say that creationism "is a philosophical base of the Big Bang Hypothesis"? DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 15:44, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_interpretations_of_the_Big_Bang_theory *sigh* --ZooGuard (talk) 15:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi DeltaStar,

ad 1 ("Am I correct in my understanding that you are attempting a PhD in disproving the Big Bang?"). You're correct however I think that I disproved the Big Bang already, if it is not only my illusion for the reason of my brain not working any more as it used to. But if this is the case (it's only my brain's problem) then please let me know. It should be easy to notice through illogical reasoning in my derivations of various astronomical effects. I'M NOT KIDDING. The thing is too important to leave it for a crazy guy to work on. But if I'm still sane (as is my hope) then the latest version of one page paper about it is waiting to be reviewed for over 25 years (since the time when I'm sure no Altzheimer affected my brain yet, just there seemed to be already in effect a ban on Einstein's ideas contradicting the faith in creation). Which you may consider "ad 2" ("Also, what on earth do mean when you say that creationism "is a philosophical base of the Big Bang Hypothesis"?").

Up till now the only referee who wanted to discuss it with me for a few months in 1966, saying finally that it has "no formal errors", but he/she doesn't believe it anyway (believing that the universe is expanding) and so he/she is going to recomend to "Physical Review Letters" editor (where it was sent to, after being already rejected without a review by Nature) to reject it as not interesting enough to its readers.

Since then I kept sending it once in a while to various editors of scientific journals hoping for finding one knowing enough physics or astronomy to see the value of my paper since never any error in my paper has been specified (see errors suspected by critics). It was always rejected because of belief of editors in the expansion of universe", which BTW contradicts even standard physics as believed in e.g. by Richard P. Feynman (see his rant against gravity physicists).

The Big Bang is a hypothesis and so it is formally something that is not known for sure. Yet "scientists" maintain that it is known for sure (that's why I take word "scientists" in quotes) that the universe has been created 14 billions years ago in the Big Bang event. Most of them don't say who has created the universe but not all, and that's how I know what they think and why I maintain that they are creationists. I don't believe that since I don't believe in ghosts (even holy). So for me it is not even an option to believe in creation. Luckily I can prove that the universe is not even expanding since there are many observations that contradict that belief. They can't be published though for various reasons. I call it politics of gravitation and wrote a popular article about it for poets and science teachers (published only on the internet though). JimJast (talk) 19:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

The universe wasn't created. It appeared. By the way, I was quite amused by the way your page defines "mysticism" as "the opposite of Objectivism." I think I've been just writing about what Ayn Rand had in mind. What you think it should be opposed to? JimJast (talk) 22:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

If you want to put your ideas to the test, I suggest trying to defend them in this forum. The people there are more knowledgeable about physics than most of the users on RationalWiki.--ZooGuard (talk) 20:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to but nobody there wanted to discuss anytning with me and they just banned me for life from their forum for being a crank as they label people who believe in principle of conservation of energy (or more exactly in conservation of 4-momentum). And unfortunately I believe in it since my physics course was by Feynman who believed it either and apparently I inherited his beliefs (besides I couldn't not believe them working as electronic engineer and seing them working in real life. I just proved that if energy can't be created then there is no evidence that the universe expands. The all visible expansion can be explained with "general time dilation" (or Hubble tensor, depending on taste) which produces Hubble parameter Ho=c/R where R is "Einstein radius" (derivation, rather boring, on demand). JimJast (talk) 22:36, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

One more remark: when I was a young guy believing in possibility of creation of energy from nothing was a sign of severe mental retardation, now it is not believing. Now every "smart guy" and his sister believes that energy can be created from nothing (through a divine intervention?) and it is taught in physics courses (at least in my u.) since they believe it is easy in a universe that "appeared" through the Big Bang (through a divine intervantion?) in which spacetime is curved rather than as I have shown with the principle of conservation of 4-momentum it is flat. Apparntly the atheists are the dying out species and the mystics are going to take over. However I wonder how they manage, while ignoring the eternal laws of physics. Existing in (unfortunately) eternal (Einstein's) universe. JimJast (talk) 23:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

From the first part of Jim's politics of gravitation article: "For American students, who might read this article but who because of peculiarities of our educational system might have never heard about Albert Einstein, I should mention that he was the most prominent American scientist ever. He was known and appreciated around the world almost as much as Leonardo da Vinci who happened to be the most prominent not only scientist but also painter, sculptor, architect, and engineer. I might also add for the students who have never heard about Leonardo either that he was not an American but an Italian. He never even visited the US and if he liked to he wouldn't probably get the visa for fear that he might work here illegally in one of his various professions. He couldn't be employed legally because he would be overqualified for any position in the US as even much less gifted people often are and then have to live at the expense of the US taxpayers. But let's not deviate into peculiarities of American culture, which is also an interesting subject but not of this article." Hilarious, very well done. The stats you pulled out of your ass about the omnipotence paradox were also amusing. Τe†rоиіαn block me for 90/10 20:42, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for appriciating my stuff. JimJast (talk) 22:36, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Answer to DeltaStar part 2 [edit] Interrelation of time and space

I know that after a few generations of scientists maintaining that the universe is expanding, without anybody presenting any valid counter hypohtesis against it, it is difficult to believe that the universe finally turned out to be eternal "Einstein's universe". But the simplicity of Einstein's physics with the unavoidable coupling between space and time gives us no other choice, so that even a guy like me, with practically no training in math and physics beyond Newton's gravitation, could comprehend it, and explain with it not only "Hubble redshift", explained as an illusion of expansion, explain its acceleration as another illusion, explain quasars, Pioneer 'anomaly', and even the average size of pieces of non luminous matter. Most of the effects exactly (up to about one standard deviation) as seen in the sky.

Einstein's theory of gravitation solves so many problems in such a simple way that even an athiest can believe that it is true since the explanation does not involve creation of anything. Einstein's theory of gravitation provides the solution that I found accidentally in 1985, not knowing then that it is a solution to a problem that the cosmologists couldn't believe for over 80 years despite the general relativity being already present.

It happened as Einstein predicted: "when all the experts decide that something can't be calculated (as Hubble redshift, it has to be observed), comes an ignorant who doesn't know that and calculates it".

The effect has been what Galileo've seen after the telescope has been invented: anyplace he turned it to, he discovered new things.

Of course I know that my credibility is zero since I'm just a sculptor and the biggest brains of our time (with slight correction from Richard Feynman though) have their own hypothesis about what's going on. The important diff was though that my math worked and theirs didn't. Even more: their "math" proposed creation of energy from nothing. Which might be the reason for Feyman's rant against them that I quote in the first part of the response to DeltaStar above, to make my story a little bit more credible.

My math that I use to invalidate the Big Bang hypothesis is almost purely the Newtonian math, which luckily is the same es Einsteinian math in all the relavant places. The most relavant, that made it invisible to the Big Bang theorists, is simple feature of Einstein's relativity the interrelation of time and space. I took it from Richard Feynman's textbook (to tell where the idea came from, so if I'm a crank I am in a good company). Feynman said "As you know from special theory of relativity, measurements of space and measurements of time are interrelated. And it would be kind of crazy to have something happening to space, without the time being involved in the same thing" [Feynman lectures on Physics, p. 42-7].

This interrelation of time and space is the key feature on which the whole invalidation of the Big Bang hypothesis hangs. It requires a small bit of "faith" that time is coupled to space but since any other solution is physically impossible since it would require a miracle of creation of energy it would reqiure someone who doesn't believe in miracles to discover it.

The best thing in my invalidation of the Big Bang is that I can rationally explain all the Einsteinian predictions about nature. Einstein's theory fell into an empty space in explanation of the universe in our necessarily rational world. It is visible in my one page quoted above paper about "Hubble Redshift in Einstein's universe". If you just read its conclusions you should see it clearly. JimJast (talk) 23:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC) [edit] Answer to DaltaStar part 3 [edit] Absence of absolute time

I'd like to clarify some points that might obscure the 1985 discovery as I call it for short. I consider it a discovery of what relation there is between time and space and I attribute it to Einstein only since it follows directly from his general relativity. That's why I don't appreciate calling it "my theory" as some people do, speaking about e.g. "testing my theory" since the theory of time and space is clearly Einstein's. He discovered it. I just use it to show the interrelation between time and space or more precisely between time dilation and the curvature of space that disproves the Big Bang hypothesis. As with every scientific discovery in astronomy it better to be seen in the sky if it is true.

What is seen in the sky follows Einstein's theory of relativity. It follows especially well Einstein's absence of absolute time, which is the main difference between Einstein's theory of general relativity and the Big Bang hypothesis (sometimes called quite improperly, being copied from Einstein's "theory" with some John Archibald Wheeler's additions as expansion of space added to it as an axiom and the curvature of spacetime added as another axiom. Therefore the Big Bang "theory" assumes the existence of absolute (cosmic) time and the possibility of creation of matter from nothing showing this way its creationist side following from curvature of spacetime. [edit] Absence of curved spacetime

In Einstein's general realativity there is neither absolute time nor the curved spacetime. In Einstein's general realativity spacetime must be Minkowski (which means "flat", since curvature of spacetime means that 4-vectors, as energy momentum 4-vector after its parallel transport to the future may show certain change which then implies lack of conservation of energy or momentum, or both while it has been considered impossible by all who don't believe in miracles (in possibility of perpetual motion machine or in lifting himself by his hair; It might be the reason for Richard Feynman rant against cosmologists, quoted earlier).

Wheeler by adding two axioms to Einstein's general realativity that is a physical theory made out of it a phenomenological (mathematical) theory with (non physical) expansion of space and the (non physical) possibility of cration of mater from nothing. He published it in 1973 as "Gravitation" adding to it two more authors (who might now feel awfull, at least I would if one used me to such a project). Since many people don't know nor care what is seen in the sky I'll try to describe it shortly: [edit] Sky from POV of a physicsist

The main thing that made scientists wondering about things like the Big Bang is the "cosmological redshift". It is that light from most galaxies comes to the Earth with its wavelength longer (sometimes several times longer) than light from identical light source near the observer. When astronomers noticed this effect there were known only two possible causes of such effect. It was the movement of galaxy that could cause making light wave longer or shorter depending on direction of movement of the galaxy. Moving away from the observer would lengthen the light wave. So the universe looked as if it were expanding since galaxies looked as if moving away from the earth. LeMaitre proposed that if they move away then they must have been closerto each other before that and before that even closer. A simple calculation showed that if it was the case they must have been at the same place about 14 billion years ago and a sudden explosion might have started their movement away from each other. This event has been named jokingly "Big Bang" by Fred Hoyle who never dreamed that anybody may take such story seriosly.

Yet some mathematicians took it seriously and started convincing the astronomers that it had to be so since (allegedly) no other explanation is possible Which turned out not to be that easy either. Neither Fred Hoyle himself nor Fritz Zwycky who couldn't believe in such silly story as the Big Bang, couldn't come up with a competing story that could explain what's going on in the universe. Einstein who discovered the theory of relativity a few year earlier, and the only guy who was at the position of explaining what's going on, was discouraged by mathematicians who rather wanted to believe in the miracle of creation than in some natural, but unknown yet fenomenon. Then Einstein said that he stopped understanding his theory when mathematicians started explaining it to him. And being rather an old guy already he gave up working on general relativity that was a key to this mystery. By the end of 20 century creationists gained majority in scientific publications and then nobody was let to write a different story.

To be continued in Answer to DeltaStar part 4 JimJast (talk) 23:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC) [edit] Answer to DeltaStar part 4 [edit] False tired light effect

The only possible competing story with the Big Bang hypothesis seemed to be a story in which light might have lost its energy through some kind of interaction with the universe. It was called tired light effect hypothesis. It has been quickly pointed out that tired light can't be true reason for cosmological redshift since the effects connected with this redshift, in the real universe, don't happen like in tired light hypothesis (which was supposed to preserve their time rate). In the real universe they were to run the same as without the tired light but they really went slower. As if it was predicted by the Big Bang hypohtesis (the twice that far galaxy seem to move twice as slowly, which was consistent with the hypothesis that the universe is expanding) but not with tired light. So the Big Bang theorists declared that the Big Bang must be a true hypothesis.

So in 1985 I already knew that the cosmological redshift can't be the tired light but I wanted to know anyway how much of the cosmological redshift is due to the expansion of space (in which I believed then not seeing any good reason why the universe couldn't expand and being conditioned from my childhood into believing in it, though not in miracles) and how much is due to the tired light effect, which I knew that some must exist at least to cartain degree because of dynamical friction, a Newtonian effect called also gravitational drag with which any moving object in the universe disperses its energy to encountered on its way masses (it is efect opposite to slingshot effect that is used to accelerate cosmic probes that jump from planet to planet gaining energy from each planet ancoutered on their way).

I kept asking physicists and astronomers about the numbers but nobody seemed to know. Then I decided to calculate it myself. When I did the numbers came the same as what was observed in the universe as cosmological redshift (about 70km/s/Mpc). Wich meant that there was no expansion of the universe! Expansion of universe was an illusion caused by the "dynamical friction of photons"! Farthermore during calculations I obtained also, quite unexpectigly a simple relation between the curvature of space and the cosmological redshift. It pointed to some mysterious relation between curvature od space and the redshift. Even more mysterious that the calculations were purely Newtonian and in Newtonian physics there is no curvature of space. It is a feature of Einsteinan physics only.

To be continued in Answer to DeltaStar part 5. JimJast (talk) 01:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC) [edit] Answer to DeltaStar part 5 [edit] Everything falls into place including cosmological constant Λ

So I had something that already looked like a solution of the old puzzle of the cosmological redshft and the only thing that needed to be done was to fit it into Einstein's physics. So I enrolled in general relativity course and started learning general realativity. The first thing that I noticed was that the value of Hubble constant that I calculated came out as Ho=c/R where c is speed of light and R is Einstein's radius (radius of Einstein's stationary universe or the radius of curvature of space). It told me that I might be on right track. Not necessarily going in right direction so I had to investigate everything very carefully.

First of all I had to find the physical meaning of all this. The bast thing that came to my mind was that apparently there is no absolute time. This was OK since it agreed with Einstein's physics. Then the proper time at each galaxy seemed to run with speed roughly proportional to the exponent of the distance from the observer. This had to be necessarily true for any observer in the universe not to make any of them special. It would have created a paradox that for any two obervers in the universe looking at each other from different galaxies the time rate at each would have to be faster than that of the other. I called it the "general twin paradox" to distinguish it from "twin paradox" from special realativity. Luckily it didn't produce any real paradox since logically such situation was possible e.g. in universe in which some "cosmic time" run faster and faster. So since there was no logical contradiction in such relativity of time I decided this solution might be the solution to the puzzle of cosmological redshift and the only problem was to present this solution to the public. I did it in February 1985 sending the solution to Nature feeling it is a proper place to send it.

As with other unconventional solutions to problems with long history of dificulties of solving them no one treated it seriously. Then for a while I kept sending it every year to Nature to find out when they employ someone who understands Einstein's relativity. As of March 2011 I'm still waiting.

In the meantime I discovered that Einstein's relativity is able to predict other phenomena in the sky beside the Hubble redshift, redshifts of quasars, and average size of non luminous matter in the universe (as 2m) deduced from 2.7K temperature of CMBR (Cosmic microwave background radiation). Since equation for Hubble redshift comes out as dT/dt=exp(-r/R) where T is proper time in deep space, t is coordinate time of the observer, r is coordinate distance from observer to observed point in deep space, and R is radius of curvature of space then after splitting this equation into Taylor series around t=0 one gets dH/dt=-Ho^2/2 which was observed with accuracy of one σ (which in science means max available) by the Supernova Cosmology Project team in 1998. It might be then considered the year of final collapse of the Big Bang hypothesis. Despite that the 1985 discovery hasn't been officially accepted yet.

The latest thing was the elimination of Einstein's cosmological constant Λ which Einstein considered "the biggest blunder of his life" (me too :) from Einstein's field equation. But to make it well I need a cooperation of a matematician fluent in tensor calculus since most mathematicians don't want to touch this problem with a 10' pole. The last that I contacted simulated dying from cancer just to avoid the assignement (I am a Pole but only 5'5" so we need at least two like myself). JimJast (talk) 19:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC) [edit] essay

If you write an actual essay it can be protected from deletion. But promises to write something in the future won't float. So time to put up. Tmtoulouse (talk) 20:03, 14 March 2011 (UTC) [edit] Suggestion

If you want an audience that is more interested in examining and assessing your ideas, I recommend you go here. Most of the commenters on that site are technically-minded and interested in science, and they'll probably give you a more thorough response than you got here. You may eventually be dismissed and ignored, but I'm willing to bet that they'll give you a fair trial. Τe†rоиіαn go to hELL! 19:01, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tetronian, "My ideas" are not my at all but only Einstein's (how many times I have to repeat the same thing?) Einstein discovered relativity before I was born, not me. I'm not that smart. I'm just not that stupid that I think that energy can be made out of nothing. Neither was Einstein, but he didn't want to fight for it with all the mathematicians around the world because they assume (in math one assumes and then one looks where it leads) that it can be created (and "there is no way to convince an idiot" as Feynman says).

So Feynman didn't fight with idiots neither, just never showed up at gravity conferences. Both Einstein and Feynman trusted human reason, apparently not for a good reason though since the creation of energy got hold in pseudoscience already for 3/4 of a century. To the degree that when I finally showed with simple high school math that Einstein was right no one wanted to publish it. I had to open my PhD project to help Einstein anihilate the Big Bang (as this new craze is called officially). "relativists" suspected an error. None could find any. That's why I don't need to do anything beyond propagatind Einstein's physics.

Until creationism gets slowly eliminated from science. It just needs more accurate messurments of energy that some physicists are able (allegedly) to created in their labs (through devine intervention). Of course they maintain that they are able to create a lot (especially if they are in state of grace) but measurements are going to verify their claims until people start laughind at every new claim of making energy through devine intervention. And finally the Opus Dei would have to stop this craze being afraid of the bad publicity hurtning increase of number of faithful. However they shouldn't since as Einstein said "human stupidity is infinite". JimJast (talk) 16:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

If you don't want to take my suggestion, a simple "no thanks" would have sufficed. No need to get your beard tangled. Unfortunately I'm not currently knowledgeable enough in physics to give your (or, if you prefer, Einstein's) material a fair shake, so I don't really have anything to say about the rest of your comments. Τe†rоиіαn witty talk page link 20:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tet, no need to feel offended. I took your suggestion, went there, and then responded with a longer text than apparently you care to read. So please don't rush, take your time, read it again, and I check again in a few days to see what you retained from my text. JimJast (talk) 16:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I got the main point: I don't need to do anything beyond propagatin[g] Einstein's physics. As I said, I'm not qualified to comment on the content of Einstein's/ your work. Τe†rоиіαn hey! that's my cabinet! 16:41, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

So we can stay friends. I'm doing PhD project in physics and if I don't know what I'm doing they let mi know soon enough. JimJast (talk) 17:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Is LessWrong really willing spend time on stuff like this? There must be some mechanism to prevent the site from turning into a crank magnet that will give anything a careful read; how will those guys save us from a robot apocalypse if they're too busy addressing any time-wasting proposal that comes their way? I think it's pretty clear that P( person has something worth saying | person claims Opus Dei is leading a cover-up in gravitational physics ) is precisely nil. --Benod (talk) 21:01, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ben, "what's robot apocalypse"? JimJast (talk) 16:58, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

What they'll do is this: one or two people will spot the flaw (assuming there is one) in Jim's post, after which it will get downvoted to oblivion. I've seen them deal with cranks before and that's pretty much how they behaved. (And I agree, if you signal poorly over there you're going to get shunned pretty quickly.) Τe†rоиіαn the anti-anti-atheist 21:06, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

One other thing, Jim, don't go back and amend comments on a talk page after they've been responded to. It can make respondents look stoopid. 21:09, 15 March 2011 (UTC) SusanG Toast Hi Terry, This is what I'm just learning about RW. Thank you for taking pains of teaching me. I didn't know that and I thought I have all the time I need to respond. Actually, I even asked for more time with the next item (so you can use it to say more to me). I'm rather surprised that you don't want learn anything since I don't see any questions why I consider Einstein's gravitation supperior to Wheeler's. JimJast (talk) 16:58, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Guys, please be patient

I'm still trying to find out how this wiki works. Especially its mathematical expressions. It might take some time before I may post anything other than plain text. Besides I have only a notebook with a tiny screen which dos not improve the matters neither. JimJast (talk) 01:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)