RationalWiki:Chicken coop/Archive82

Bongolian
Apologies for using an IP to evade a block, but since talk page access was revoked by "D" (formerly known as Dysklyver) likely in retaliation for me blocking him on Conservapedia, I see no other recourse. Bongolian blocked me, What a Wonderful World, infinitely for "harassing", when in fact I responded to her question in the saloon bar in an honest, straight forward manner, which she had asked in response to something I posted while logged out. This is not the first time Bongolian has acted heavy handedly towards Conservapedians, as he started quite an HCM trying to get sysoprevoked a few weeks ago. People here need to decide whether this is appropriate behavior for a moderator. 2607:FB90:90E1:B391:0:3:EC2D:B301 (talk) 19:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Yeah I would definitely have banhammered you two days ago for numerous offense against reason, repeatably trolling us here, demonstratively lying in your recent emails, blocking me on Conservapedia (presumably out of spite), and repeated references to RationalWiki as a "vandal site" (including in your Conservapedia block rationales). The only reason I didn't block you then was because you didn't seem to be active here anymore. However I see you have come back specifically to harass a mod over her appearance? In a thread about death threats no less. Well fuck right off back to where you came from.  20:13, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Lol, you would think I said something cruel about her appearance, but I actually did not, just offered an honest answer to an honest question. And of course, she has the option to not respond if she wants. Nonetheless, you're far from unbiased considering I just blocked you, based on checkuser evidence (I learned something from you: residential proxies are a thing). 2607:FB90:90E1:B391:0:3:EC2D:B301 (talk) 20:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course that is a major part of why I didn't just ban you myself earlier. But make no mistake about the fact I am seriously annoyed at you for your general behavior over a long period of time and not just this one incident. You don't get the benefit of the doubt from me, sorry if that seems unfair. 20:27, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The edits that earned the ban: and . Bongolian (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Re:, admitted that I posted it, denied that it is permaban worthy. Re:, I'm going to add that off-wiki stuff isn't worthy of on-wiki sanctions here, and don't even think about lying about that email conversation unless you want it posted here word for word, and since you were using proxies on CP, I'll gladly post your checkuser logs and show you how I can tell you were socking if you'd like, since posting a proxy IP wouldn't be doxing or anything, but I'll still leave that up to you. 2607:FB90:90E1:B391:0:3:EC2D:B301 (talk) 20:27, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * No doubt you might want to post it here, I am sure a tangentially related large block of private information would make a good filibuster. No I am primarily complaining about this:
 * Which is the original block reason, where you clearly state; known associate of a vandal site. Like yeah, I get it, you think this is a vandal site. 20:36, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Which is the original block reason, where you clearly state; known associate of a vandal site. Like yeah, I get it, you think this is a vandal site. 20:36, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Tattooes and piercings are gross. 20:31, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. But it's still not like thst was meant to be an insult (and considering my lady has a nose ring, someone would be hard pressed to say that it was) 2607:FB90:90E1:B391:0:3:EC2D:B301 (talk) 20:33, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah. Well, everything else would be fairly accurate. I do have Chinese descent too fyi. By the way, I didn't perceive it harassment, I do entertain what kind of mental images people form about me. 20:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * LGM, in that case would you be willing to let the matter drop? 20:45, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I unblocked them, I am still mad as hell over their general behavior but it doesn't seem like they need to banned right now. 20:46, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no offenses taken this time. 20:48, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

(e/c) @LGM Thank you for that. I kind of wondered if there was some Asian blood there, being half Asian myself (Filipino), knowing that a lot of Asians are petite, and knowing there is a large Asian population in California. I'll bet you look a lot like the prom queen from my high school from your description, who is half Japanese. Now, I will say this... if I'm not mistaken, someone claimed that Dysklyver is a sock of Bongolian, and while I don't pay close attention to this middle school drama crap and don't know all the details, there could be something to that. The reason I say that is because, while this guy claims to be innocent, either he's lying or someone who happens to know the exact operating system and browser version to use (and it's not an overly common combination like Windows 10 and Firefox) to impersonate him and happens to think to use that information to frame him on a site he is barely active on, or he is cross-wiki trolling. What he does on CP is irrelevant here, but when he brings it here... 2607:FB90:90E1:B391:0:3:EC2D:B301 (talk) 20:53, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You said you could give me the checkuser data, I would really appreciate it if you could do that. For what it's worth I am annoyed at you right now, but this probably won't persist. I sysoped you once and voted against your ban last time round. I told you in the email who I think it is, I would rather you didn't post that here. Also fwiw I don't use Windows or Firefox so make sure you are checking the right account ay? 20:58, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * @D I get off work at midnight eastern time tonight, will gladly post screen shots then when I get access to a PC (that isn't connected to a corporate firewall). @LGM, thought I'd add, I don't really care what people visualuze me as, but I am very curious about the people on the other end of the fiber optic cable, like "who are these people who create/maintain/vandalize Wikipedia/Conservapedia/RW" 2607:FB90:90E1:B391:0:3:EC2D:B301 (talk) 21:10, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * My view of "What a Wonderful World"'s posts is that speculating in detail about a person's appearance is inappropriate behavior. It tends to be harassment and can be viewed as a form of doxing. Bongolian (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It's...kind of creepy. WWW, please don't do that. RoninMacbeth (talk) 23:16, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It all started as me making a self deprecating joke about my weight so eh. 23:23, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

OK, can we close this case then? Bongolian (talk) 23:28, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yah. 23:34, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Wait, how is imagining what another person looks like a form of doxing? O.O 2A02:1810:4D34:DC00:2876:3C83:70A9:92EA (talk) 23:36, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You can imagine all you like but when you bring it into the public, that's another matter as I indicated above. Don't be naive. Bongolian (talk) 23:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)