Talk:COVID-19 pandemic

Evidence of long circulation
Research news from time to time shift the onset date of pandemic earlier and earlier. I will not dive into conspirological depths, but I definitely do not understand what the fuck is that supposed to mean. Can someone sift through it and explain it, and why Wuhan became a cut-off point?

Should people take booster shots?
Like is being recommend in America after eight months? &mdash; Unsigned, by: 2607:FB90:1800:B259:3ABB:9E27:CF0:8056 / talk
 * It's very likely that we'll need to take booster shots yes. Within what time frame I do not know. 15:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Israel started a booster program very early and it has shown very positive results. Based on their experience I would predict that some vulnerable Western populations would get them soon, that is to say before the end of the year.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 19:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Covid and the Spanish flu
Given that Spanish Flu faded into the background 'of its own account' after two years, when will Covid-19 start doing so? (Making allowance for greater communication networks now etc.) Does the virus responsible for Spanish flu exist now, in 2021 as part of the 'general flu viruses people are normally vaccinated against'? Anna Livia (talk) 19:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I think it's still unknown what the time frames may turn out to be like for this coronavirus. There's also been mentions of a difference between the types of virus: flu viruses can mutate more dramatically than the more stable coronaviruses (one part of why coronaviruses are easier to make vaccines for).


 * The first half of 2020, there were mentions in the media of expert opinions that this coronavirus may eventually mutate the way the Spanish flu virus did (infecting more easily and damaging less), indeed eventually becoming just another common virus like the Spanish flu did. So far since then, though, more easily infecting variations (first beta, then delta) also do more damage instead of less. However, I think that pattern could still later change at some point (if there's a tipping point in the evolutionary situation/challenge facing the virus).


 * Anyway, this coronavirus seems to be here to stay. It spreads too well, including crucially across different host species, for it to go extinct even if humans became fully immune. In case of immunity, it's just a matter of time before mutation leads to a comeback. After vaccination improves life with the virus as much as is possible in the short term, hopefully the virus will become nicer in a fairly short time. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 21:26, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I was also wondering "what happened" to the Spanish flu. It seems that all currently circulating flu viruses are direct or indirect descendants of the 1918 virus. So, in a sense, it's still here.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 13:38, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I was paraphrasing various articles countering the 'permanent lockdown argument.' (Various other large-scale to pandemic outbreaks followed the same decline.) Anna Livia (talk) 17:16, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Alphabet soup
The delta variant was in the news and we are now on omicron: I understand some letters were skipped because they sounded too similar - but what about the other letters between? Anna Livia (talk) 18:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

This has no place in anything trying to be an Encyclopedia
"Indeed, the common idea that the spread of the disease isn't that serious since only some people are likely to die is incredibly callous, and often brutally ableist against those with chronic conditions or ageist against the elderly."

Almost all disease disproportionally affects the elderly. That is not 'ageist' or 'ableist', it's nature. Fehmgericht (talk) 20:51, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Good job we aren't trying to be an encyclopaedia then. Scream!! (talk) 21:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Anti-science
It's kind of ironic that this article fails nearly all of the "anti-science" traits listed on this site. I really don't understand the purpose of it other than someone's angsty rant about reality not conforming to their pseudoreligious beliefs 2A00:23C4:BA8F:7301:B0B4:F29F:D09B:97B0 (talk) 00:49, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


 * can you explain how this is "pseudoreligious" and falls into anti-science?


 * What a lovely worship of scientism from branch covidians this article was. --46.114.93.117 (talk) 11:18, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * calling something/someone "scientism" and "branch covidians" makes you sound dumb
 * I'm half expecting a rant now about how is a "branch covidian" and real science lies with supplements from Natural News.
 * 'Tis okay. Pretty soon, no medical professional will want to work with this lot, and they will flee to saner pastures, like what's happening in the Idaho. BobJohnson (talk) 14:58, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Just skimming this article reminded me of the old favorite: "5G causes Covid". I wonder if that's still a thing? Perhaps out IP editor could tell us?Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 07:39, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, seems like someone got triggered, did I happen to offend one of your messiahs, mea culpa, just keep worshipping. And don't worry, I don't care about 5G or supplements or whatever you prefer, like mandatory injections maybe? How dare people start questioning everything praised by believers of "The Science", right? Rumor has it real scientists have no issues with being challenged and questioned instead of being muzzled. However, the mindset of branch covidians resembles the rise (and fall) of a global cult movement. Congrats for keeping it alive. Reality beats satire big time... --46.114.90.121 (talk) 11:10, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Most people who have used the phrase "branch covidians" are pure hacks, like Fox News figures like the Laura Ingraham (who privately probably is vaccinated according to their workplace policy and are spewing shit to appeal to the rubes), or the Elon Musk (who was pissed that pandemic measures upset his karoshi culture dream). Which "messiah" are you parroting, I wonder? BobJohnson (talk) 12:20, 31 March 2023 (UTC)