User talk:Spud/Archive2

Please contact me
Please contact me at ttoulouse@gmail.com. tmtoulouse 21:35, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

No
There is no such thing as a good dictator. Take a chill pill bro.--Back2theroots34 (talk) 06:35, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Go fuck yourself! Spud (talk) 10:30, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What the hell did I do?--Back2theroots34 (talk) 10:35, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

uhh
So you protected the page so I couldn't comment on the topic I opened on the users page? Kinda sus my dude. Esp now that yall are having a bunch of discourse there. 138.207.198.74 (talk) 02:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I think he protected the page because of a blanking that happened: . I'll unprotect it for now as it's only one occurrence of vandalism. LongStylus (talk) 02:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it, thanks. 138.207.198.74 (talk) 02:46, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! LongStylus (talk) 03:44, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Top Gear
Hello, I saw the revert of the move of Top Gear to Jeremy Clarkson. Since Clarkson, Hammond and May's departures seven years ago, there have been 56 episodes with the presenting team consisting of Paddy McGuinness, 2019–present, Andrew Flintoff, 2019–present, Chris Harris, 2016–present, Sabine Schmitz, 2016–2020, Rory Reid, 2016–2019, Matt LeBlanc, 2016–2019, Eddie Jordan, 2016–2018, Chris Evans, 2016. The controversial aspects are very much associated with Clarkson (and not limited to the views he expressed on Top Gear) not his replacements. Can you share your thoughts on this?--Darrelljon (talk) 12:46, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * we have heard little much controversial from clarkson since leaving top gear and his controversies would likely not have made headlines at all if they did not happen on a popular prime time BBC show. aside from this some of the controversy involved scripted 'jokes' not unplanned off the cuff remarks (im thinking of the 'slope' reference.) his sidekicks and the producers were just as culpable in that regard - its not just clarkson AMassiveGay (talk) 16:12, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If you still care. Sorry, I've been sick.
 * Well, you could pretty much put what you wrote above on the Top Gear page. You could emphasize that the controversial days of Top Gear are long in the past now, which the page hints at already. And if you think there's anything on the page that's irrelevant to Top Gear, go ahead and remove it. Although I'd say that anything Clarkson said or did while he was still a Top Gear presenter is relevant. Spud (talk) 04:52, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

You subscribe to this?
Just wanted to let you know it does not matter you guys deleted https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation&oldid=2459630, the wayback machine will now remember your lying and intelectual dishonesty forever https://web.archive.org/web/20220606151753/https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation &mdash; Unsigned, by: Londondare / talk / contribs

11 years
I got you beat by 3 years, buddy. Ace is weird wise. Acei9 08:32, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I know the real old guard still see me as a Johnny-come-lately. I am resigned to that. Spud (talk) 12:49, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * has me beat by a little under a year though. Acei9 18:08, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Bloody newbies. I remember when this was all fields.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 14:04, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The other place has 10, 15 and 20 year clubs. Anna Livia (talk) 22:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I know. I'm a member of the Ten Year Society and the Fifteen Year Society over there. Spud (talk) 02:05, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ditto. The ranks by timeframe and number of edits seem to much like hard work/involve more time on WP than I wish to spend. Anna Livia (talk) 18:11, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm also a Veteran Editor II or Grand Tutnum for having made 12,000 edits. Although it did take me nearly 16 years to do that. Spud (talk) 10:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Ban Evasion: Fuck You!
$100 says Ken is furiously writing an "essay" about how ''the atheist who goes by the moniker Ace McWicked says "there is no god" because he thinks he died. News to you Ace! Death is permanent! I declare victory once more! Now see these pictures with captions''...but over 3 pages of meandering irrelevant gibberish. Acei9 03:06, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course! And he might even say something about how the atheist known as Spud used crude language while banning innocent Christians who were not ban evading, were making good points in the Saloon Bar and were most definitely not Ken, no siree! Spud (talk) 12:05, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to link to it because it's just the same old rubbish but you owe me $100. Acei9 18:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I think Ace and Ken are working in cahoots. They're going to split Spud's $100 50/50. --RWRW (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * He probably needs it too. I get the sense he couldn't even fund a trip to the zoo. Acei9 20:46, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * He sure seems able to fund a VPN engine, though… --Luigifan18 (talk) 02:22, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Board nomination
Bongolian (talk) 06:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Strikeout humor
What's with the compunction against strikeout humor? Out of curiosity. Vee (talk) 10:45, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Truth be told, I don't really feel that strongly about it. I think it's a bit naff and there are usually better ways of saying the same thig but it doesn't bother me that much. The last time it was, discussed however, several prominent users I respect came out strongly against it. Mainly because it was used inconsistently. Sometimes what was stricken out was a conservative subjective opinion (not typical of the opinion of a RationalWiki user). Sometimes it was something demonstrably true, like so-and-so is a convicted criminal. Anyway, it was generally agreed that striking out was not funny and we shouldn't be doing it anymore. Of course, since then, new users have come along, seen striking out on old pages, thought that was a RationalWiki-type thing to do and added more. Spud (talk) 11:32, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah. I may be guilty of that. Vee (talk) 11:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * From my perspective, I think some of the anti-strikeout squad is often rather pedantic. Sure, maybe it's not the best approach to take all of the time, but instead of reworking the strikeout into the article, there's a tendency among the anti-strikeouts to excise wantonly, usually with an unhelpfully vulgar and vague edit summary (like "Strikeout humor is bullshit"). Personally I think some of the strikeout humor works sometimes. *shrug* BobJohnson (talk) 14:35, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Many years ago "strikeout jokes", "tumbleweeds" and Conservapedia were everywhere. Then people got tired of them as they were overdone and we decided to cut that stuff back.  I guess fashions come and go.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 14:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I remove strikeouts wherever I see them. Lame and unfunny. Occasionally there's a good one but not often. Acei9 17:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the strikeout joke on our Jeremy Corbyn article is the best on the entire site. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 18:21, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Wait, what?! It is so painfully unfunny. Acei9 21:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * some of y’all don’t seem to understand that humour is subjective. It’s kind of an egotistical tendency to just assume your aesthetic judgements are just factually correct and to be flabbergasted at anyone who experiences the world differently then you.- 22:58, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Really? You think that's happening here? That Spud and I are too stupid to understand the subjective nature of humour? Acei9 17:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Humour is subjective indeed. What is less subjective is the reliable generalisation that overdone sticks made funny things less funny. The strikeouts have become tiresome. Unless it adds to the article (rather than distracts) it should go. This shouldn't be controversial. I don't find the Corbyn one remotely funny. Wow...Ace and I can agree on shit! Shabi DOO  17:57, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We've agreed on shit before I am sure of it. Acei9 18:30, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Luigifan18
Can we have the diff when luigifan18 told others to kill themselves? That will change the entire course of discussion. Thanks!--Andrew5 mobile (talk) 16:54, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

so much for a rational wiki
guess you don't like the truth in regards to arab homos
 * Nice to come back after ages away to see the old ways arer being kept alive. 86.54.102.146 (talk) (Sophie) 13:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * My dear Sophie, I said "as usual", not "as always". Again, nice try. (I'm cursed with a very good memory.) Spud (talk) 15:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

So, how's everything going?
RoC has been on the news a lot today, I hope everything is fine up there. I'm pretty sure that after so long you probably love the place, especially considering how you spent much more time there than in other countries, but if shit hits the fan, please, leave the country when you can. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 21:49, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I love Taiwan and don't want to leave. I'm sure China is just posturing and there's no real threat of invasion. However, I will escape if I have to. Spud (talk) 13:36, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, that's good to hear. I'm glad you're doing fine. The last thing this world needs right now is another war and I hope people in China acknowledge this before doing something stupid. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 14:25, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Don't really know what to do
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:To_do_list/archive2009

All suggestions are gone (either moved to the "Most wanted articles" section or have been created). Thought I ask a mod, since I'm not sure if I should just vaporize it or not. Arcadium Trancefer (talk) 13:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Probably best to just leave it as it is. Spud (talk) 05:58, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Wow dude
Ken has plumbed new depths. Holy shit what an awful cunt. I smoke, drink, sleep maybe 3 hours a night so I don't mind getting shit from Ken about my behaviour but his attack on your habits and reason behind it...I'm sure the lord is happy with him. Acei9 19:52, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh and I am sorry to hear about your sister. I lost both my parents early and I recently lost a dear friend to suicide - it really hurts. Acei9 22:20, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your sympathy. I was in two minds as to whether I should feed the troll or not. At least thanks to you, I don't have decide whether or not to do it in the Saloon Bar.


 * I'm sure my sister would have wanted me to take this opportunity to celebrate our Jewish heritage. So I'll say:


 * Ken you, schmuck, there was no science denial involved. When did I say processed food was healthy? I'll tell you when. Never. That's when. Of course, it's bad for you. Every nudnik knows that. I would never suggest that anyone should eat large quantities of it or eat it regularly. But indulging once a year on 30 April isn't going to do anybody much harm. You, putz.


 * And yeah, I was celebrating the all too brief life of my wonderful sister. Someone who died at the age of 42, leaving behind a 6-year old daughter and a husband who has to raise that child as a single father. But you just couldn't resist the chance to have a little dig at me, could you? And not only once but six times. That's another grave you've danced on, you worthless piece of dreck. You can add that to the list of many things you'll have to account for if you ever do find yourself standing before the G-d of Abraham. Spud (talk) 13:38, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * He was then getting criticism on the talkpage and he had to delete it. What a precious wee soul. Acei9 21:27, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I was going to ask if he'd created a page about me. But I see it's still there. And the same content is also on three other pages. That means there are now two pages about me on Conservapedia. The first being Essay: Mr. "Spud" Atheist is put through the potato grinder, which was created years ago, has stayed there in spite of several similar "essays" based on casual remarks RW editors have made getting deleted within hours of creation, been edited recently but strangely never been put in the RationalWiki category.


 * So I see it's just some criticism by Rob Smith and LT that's disappeared from the talk page. I also notice that neither LT nor Nobs said what Ken was doing was in bad taste. No real surprise there.


 * Also no real surprise that Andy has told Ken to stop writing about RationalWiki. So the stuff Ken's written about me might be the last piece of RW-related content he ever writes. And monkeys might fly out of my arse.


 * Now, I'm not going to feed the troll any further and will say no more about this. Spud (talk) 10:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank You spud Thank you so much
I really love (the good faith) users on this wiki. I was afraid of Ken. Thank you. I owe you one --Jakester499 (talk) (contributions) 11:30, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There's nothing to be afraid of. And thank you for having a heart. Spud (talk) 11:33, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * God, Ken is such a piece of shit. 14:11, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello there
So I’ll be creating the category for actual anti-Christian bigots, but I came to ask you what I should title it and which pages would justify having the category so I don’t make the mistake of having a misunderstanding. Rational Dude (talk) 12:57, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I think "Anti-Christian bigots" itself would be fine as the name for a category about people. So I suppose that should be a sub-category of "Anti-Christian bigotry", the category for the abstract concept. Spud (talk) 13:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * That’s good. However, bigotry isn’t really abstract, it’s an observable phenomenon. But I’ll get to work right away! Rational Dude (talk) 13:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Funspace
Are users allowed to create their own pages for funspace articles? Rational Dude (talk) 15:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. Spud (talk) 04:11, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * How do I create my own funspace article? Rational Dude (talk) 11:20, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The same way you'd create any other page but put Fun: before the title. Spud (talk) 12:52, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. Thank you. Can I do the same for sandbox articles? Rational Dude (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sandbox isn't a namespace. Maybe you mean Draft. Spud (talk) 15:08, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh. I want to make something similar to this:https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User:DuceMoosolini/Africanized_Bee
 * Well, that's easy enough. Just replace User:DuceMoosolini with User:Rational_Dude and Africanized_Bee with whatever your page title is, and your away! Mind you, I would recommend creating all new articles in draftspace first, instead of in your user space. That way, other editors are allowed to edit them to, even before they are moved to mainspace. Spud (talk) 02:00, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course, thanks for letting me know.Rational Dude (talk) 02:05, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I let other editors contribute to my drafts. I just like making it clear that I’m the primary author and also avoiding cluttering draftspace.  21:28, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

New category
Should I make a category for "Red Fascists"? It's a category for communists that are racist, dictators, and/or support authoritarianism. Rational Dude (talk) 19:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * "Red fascist" is a bit of a loaded term, and we already have categories like tankies for that purpose. Plutocow (talk) 22:14, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with Plutocow. Don't create that category. Spud (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, I won't. Rational Dude (talk) 21:04, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Board meeting
Hey Spud, is there ever going to be a board meeting? Shabi DOO  20:45, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You mean is there ever going to be another board meeting. I hope so. Spud (talk) 06:51, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Did I miss one? No one notified me of it. Shabi  DOO  20:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * If you missed one, I missed one as well and nobody notified me either. No, I do not think you missed one. Spud (talk) 01:29, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Also
Am I allowed to create a page for a fictional political entity and add categories to it? Rational Dude (talk) 20:05, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I think pages are supposed to lack categories if they're in draftspace or userspace (unless it's a personal descriptor like Category:RationalWikians or something I guess). If funspace or mainspace it should be fine. Chillpilled (talk) 21:37, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Maybe unless it’s fiction with literary merit to it like Oceania from 1984. 21:51, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I really don't think that's a good idea. We shouldn't have lots of pages that deal with one fictional entity. We used to have several different pages about the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four but they have now al been merged into the George Orwell one. Spud (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Such a page should either be an essay or in your own user space. There shouldn't be any categories other than "Essays" if its in essayspace. Otherwise, it would be too confusing finding fictional pages in category pages. Bongolian (talk) 05:29, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I’ll make it into an essay. Rational Dude (talk) 13:02, 12 May 2023 (UTC)