User talk:Femilisk/Archive1

And remember, judge NOT ALL MEN! - David Gerard (talk) 19:03, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I AM WATCHING YOU VERY CLOSELY 17:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I am correctly responding to the incentives of Femilisk - 22:10, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Signature fail. 09:10, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Much sysop. Very editor. So wiki.
You've made a lot of good edits! Which is why you're now a sysop. (There's, but I don't think anyone reads it.)  08:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * wow much demote very substandard such inferior so lowered  10:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Expanding templates
Please be careful which templates you expand (by adding the "subst:" prefix to their name in the code). Template:Stub, for example, is never supposed to be expanded (you did that in Scholarpedia). Thank you.--ZooGuard (talk) 09:51, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Noob.  09:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Femilisk&trade;
A long-term contraceptive! - David Gerard (talk) 20:23, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Next: one for men. 07:57, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't use contraceptives, I just kill men. 09:30, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Shhh... No Tears
Only dreams now. --Revolverman (talk) 10:46, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I like you. But who knows for how long? 10:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

question
do you plan to do lots of wikignoming?-- Mie kal  21:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Do I have to report to you? 22:17, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I smell tears. --Dgener8 (talk) 22:21, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What kind of stupid leaping to conclusions is this? Miekal was clearly approaching Femilisk to see if he could help with any planned wikignoming. Nullahnung (talk) 22:42, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually i was asking if they wanted ninja if the answer was yes-- Mie kal  22:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ninja? :) 22:44, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Lets you mask yourself as a bot, traditional thing for those who do lots of catting and other gnoming.. basically, do you plan to do it enough to give you it?-- Mie kal  22:46, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * sure, I'm pedantic and I like putting things in categories. I was mistakenly under the impression gnoming means trolling. 22:51, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * alrighty then, just rember to turn it off when you're done-- Mie kal  22:53, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * is there a guide? I have no idea what I'm doing. 06:53, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sink or swim dearie. But go to your contributions page, click manage user rights somewhere up by block user, and you should be able to click bot for one you can change. then go do all the gnoming and when your done, just reverse the operation. -- Mie kal  06:56, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Aha! 09:48, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Sidebanners
It's a general rule around here to limit the number of sidebanners on each article to one. Pick the one you think best describes the article and put it on, but try not to double up. Zero (talk - contributions) 12:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I did not know this. 12:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Mongoose
This conversation was moved to RationalWiki:Chicken coop |₹Λ¥$€₦₦  Stay by my side / Mabushii sekai wo misetai 14:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

'''But then it was nuked because it was absurd. See next section. '''

Laurelai
This conversation was moved from User_talk:Laurelai |₹Λ¥$€₦₦  Kyubey stares into your soul. /人◕‿‿◕人\\ 15:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

As was said to Femilisk - one edit, reverted, does not a sysop make. They don't need a bucket and mop to work on the SJ project. Once they've proven themselves, they can be promoted. Get it?  PsyGremlin undefined 13:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Im going to explain this once. Slowly. I got sysop the first day. Before my first edit. Just for saying i was here to contribute. Its handed out like candy. Its even in the sysop guide. You have no authoritative right to make demands of me or any other user. If you have an issue, thats what talk pages are *for*. Discuss it and use your words like a grown up. --Laurelai (talk) 13:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Guess what - your sysopship was therefore handed out contrary to the spirit of the wiki, and I am now going to investigate and see what happened and take you and whoever sysopped you to the Chicken Coop. This isn't FB, where the admins run around like little facsists. People are not sysopped just because we want them to be. End of story.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Even if Laurelai was made sysop with zero proving herself through edits, since then she has made some useful edits, so has certainly proven herself for demotion now. Nullahnung (talk) 14:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * *laps up your tears* --Laurelai (talk) 14:02, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, they pretty much always have been. I've always opped people as long as I think they're not actually insane. There's really very little a MediaWiki sysop can do to break things - David Gerard (talk) 14:06, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds like Psygremlin has a case of the jimmy rustles.--Laurelai (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. I wasn't aware I was dealing with a kindergartener. I would have moderated my language otherwise.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And David, how many people have you sysopped after 0 or 1 edits? Since when is that the standard on the wiki?  PsyGremlin undefined 14:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I typically wait for a few. But the standard is "are they likely to do fucked-up things?" Is there evidence this is happening? Can you show that this claimed problem is, actively being a problem in practice, rather than hypothetically? (Wearing my moderator hat here.) - David Gerard (talk) 14:11, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

IIRC sysopped this user because she expressed something about someone else on the wiki doxxing her or something like that. I forget the exact circumstances, but it seemed like a reasonable move at the time. And what the hell are "jimmy rustles"? Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 14:15, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * basically it means his ego got bruised and hes throwing a tantrum. --Laurelai (talk) 14:17, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Is there an etymology? Was there an actual "Jimmy"? Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 14:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no clue why it caught on in the form it has, but its from a child's boxed snack. Has a gorilla on it. --Revolverman (talk) 14:21, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * (EC*5... FUCKING FIVE)It's a mutation from the phrase "having one's jimmies rustled", which I understand is fairly common nowadays (the phrase, I mean, not this mutation). Nullahnung (talk) 14:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "are they likely to do fucked-up things?" - given that Mongoose's response to this has been to post troll comments, that answer is now self-explanatory. And FV- nobody is doxxing anybody on the wiki. And how exactly would sysopping them change that?
 * And since when does making the wiki run properly have anything to do with ego? You need to get off your high horse. Or is that high chair, given your childish comments. Do you always get your knickers in a twist when you don't get your way?  PsyGremlin undefined 14:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And Fv - it's a 4chan meme. Which says a lot about the people who use it, really.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * PsyGremlin, cry more. Your tears sustain me.--Laurelai (talk) 14:23, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That Really Rustled My Jimmies afaik it means "that really irritated me". 14:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tch, this is RATIONALwiki! We expect much higher standards of research than that. It's actually from FunnyJunk. - David Gerard (talk) 14:25, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Drink! :D --Laurelai (talk) 14:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * oh hello, somebody fucked up - why is Mongoose signing lauralei's name to a post? Looks like we're dealing with a sockpuppet here.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh hello, you are full of shit. I edited my own comment to add my signature. Bye stupid. --Laurelai (talk) 14:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see Mongoose's name anywhere in that Diff Psy. --Revolverman (talk) 14:31, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Mongoose is not Laurelai: I am talking to both right now on chat. 14:32, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * My bad - I mistook the edit summary for the author. I apologise for that. Shit happens.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You cant read a diff file and you cant spell my name right half the time and yet you wonder why people ignore you when you bark orders. --Laurelai (talk) 14:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "Apology accepted, PsyGremlin, don't fuck up again." Common decency too much to expect from LoopyLoo, I guess.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:42, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Except I do not accept your apology. You are clearly acting in bad faith. I dont forgive you. Bye. --Laurelai (talk) 14:44, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And besides, Laurelai has much better hair than I do. Here's a rundown of what has occurred thus far. Pedant gets jimmies rustled. Pedant makes pedantic comment. Target of pedantic comment responds in kind, and really rustles pedant's jimmies. Pedant then makes argumentum ad 4chan and argumentum ad sock with absolutely no evidence to support it. Pedant then tries to lick wounds and make nice after acting in bad faith. Have I missed anything?Mongoose (talk) 14:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Besides the fact that you've only posted troll nonsense and still wonder why you're not a sysop? Let's talk bad faith for a moment. You get promoted after one edit, which was reverted, and your response has been to make childish comments. You see where this is going wrong, right? There was no bad faith on my part - outside of your twisted little persecution fantasies. So get over it.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:55, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Who said anything about me being concerned about not being a sysop? You have behaved in a childish manner. I therefore assumed I was dealing with a child, and responded in kind. I save the persecution fantasies to people like you. If you're going to behave badly, don't be surprised when you are treated with the disrespect you deserve. I could be happily gnoming, but I have your drama to take up my time.Mongoose (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Guys, stop. Seriously. Please. This is going nowhere, and its already across 3 talk pages. --Revolverman (talk) 14:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I find it terribly odd that you expect someone to just automatically accept your apology. Exactly why should she? If you acted in a hostile manner to me, should I accept your apologies for that just...for whatever? When someone decides to burn a cross on my lawn, I sure as shit don't accept an apology later. You have to EARN the right to give an apology and have it be accepted. I don't see anything here that shows you've done that. --Castaigne (talk) 21:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't help it if the resident drama queens are sore, because they didn't get their way, and chose to blow it totally out of proportion. All the more tears for me to bathe in.  PsyGremlin undefined 14:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Again, projection much? Can you say Gulag time? (talk) 15:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Femilisk
This conversation was moved from User_talk:Femilisk |₹Λ¥$€₦₦  "Ritsuko, the truth is[...]" "Huh. You liar" 15:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but 1 edit, later reverted, does not a sysop make.  PsyGremlin undefined 13:40, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * They were having trouble wikignoming and PMed me on FB. Either way, I'm sure they are able to survive without superpowers. So no prob. 13:44, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If Lauralee deliberately ignores comments made in the edit summary - twice, then it's clear action must be taken. Especially when it's somebody who herself is new to the wiki.   PsyGremlin undefined 13:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * So, Psygremlin, that Blunt Knives thing, how's that working out for you? Feeling a bit... short?Mongoose (talk) 14:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Could you not be so heavy-handed? I thought the criteria for sysop were near zero? I get that a person with one edit complaining about problems with captcha is not sysop-worthy! But Laurelai is a good RWian. Her contributions are good. She has been doing stuff. 13:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Because for years we have had a system that has worked very well and it's not going to be broken, just because your friends want to join the wiki. The fact that lauralee was made a sysop with out an edit is another example of this favouritism. Given that you've sysopped somebody who doesn't even know how to sign their posts speaks volumes.
 * And Mongoose, the fact that you bring that up, in a totally unrelated subject, speaks volumes. So well done there. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 14:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hush little Gremlin, don't say a word, Mongoose gonna buy you a mocking cobra...Mongoose (talk) 14:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Let not provoke people please? There's enough that on this Wiki already. --Revolverman (talk) 14:15, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone who engages in pedantry and capriciousness has much of a right to complain, but if it suits my whim, I will try to behave. I do apologize for the mocking cobra comment, though, on the grounds it was lame.Mongoose (talk) 14:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I guess. --Revolverman (talk) 14:25, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Seriously, though, I'll try to behave. No promises.Mongoose (talk) 14:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The criteria for sysop have always been pretty much zero. I've always opped people as long as I think they're not actually insane. There's really very little a MediaWiki sysop can do to break things. I have little to no idea what historical basis Psy is working from here - David Gerard (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The basis of a personal vendetta? Look, I wasn't the one that sysoped Laurelai when she joined. Is that what bothers you? Otherwise, I accepted I was wrong with helping somebody who couldn't get past the captcha - I accepted that off the bat. 14:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I dont think you were wrong though. --Laurelai (talk) 14:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "Getting past the captcha" requires only "autopatrolled", not sysop powers.--ZooGuard (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You can take your "personal vendetta" persecution complex and shove it. The fact remains, that you yourself were only sysopped after making a number of edits, you've been here long enough to know how it works and yet, somehow you see fit to promote people with none, or 1 edit. It doesn't work that way. And again, David, you say teh criteria are zero - which is utter bullshit. How many editors have you promoted immediately upon joining, or after 1 edit?
 * And given how Mongoose is now trolling, I can't see how they could be considered as a sysop. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 14:15, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * So you are saying you want me and Laurelai off the wiki because other people promoted us to sysop? 14:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Really, where did I say that? Quote me, please. No, what I said is I want the normal convention of demoting people to be followed and not have people promoting people left, right and center just because they can. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 14:23, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * So you want to send me to chicken coop because somebody that I sysoped made a troll-like comment? 14:25, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) "The criteria for sysop" have been "not obviously a vandal, as evidenced by their edits". The usual practice is to let people make at least a dozen edits to figure out what they are about. Sysopping someone after a single edit rubs me the wrong way too, and sysopping someone because of off-wiki communication due to pledged allegiance to a certain project rubs me the wrong way really badly. For the people with short or non-existent memories, RW has had meltdowns about user rights in the past, and it had nothing to do with gender or social justice issues.--ZooGuard (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ZooGuard, I fully accepted I was wrong to sysop somebody with only one edit, or no edits. My first comment on this thread. The rest has not been me. It's been pettiness from off-site drama, indeed. One might be tempted to say this was merely an excuse to find a reason to tell me off. But maybe it just was because I didn't accept I was wrong from the start oh wait I did! 14:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh here we go - let's see. Yes, you admitted you were wrong. And then I posted in reply to your edit summary when you demoted LL, and from there we were on to Mongoose trolling, you suddenly claiming it was about a "personal vendetta," so to say "the rest has not been me" is a bit of a lie, actually. If anything, you three have blown this totally out of proportion. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 14:39, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "If anything you three have blown this totally out of proportion" Projection much? Can you say Gulag time? (talk) 15:11, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "I have little to no idea what historical basis Psy is working from here" 14:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "The basis of a personal vendetta? Look, I wasn't the one that sysoped Laurelai when she joined. Is that what bothers you?" Denying reality now, or what? But hey, whatever floats your boat. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 14:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I do not care enough to continue this. You have got your way, so why are you? 15:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Back on track
Psy, I went through the archives, since you were curious about who sysopped Laurelai and why. I sysopped Laurelai after reading this comment about harassment. No, I didn't do too much to investigate the claim, because, hey, assume good faith. No doubt it was a quick sysopping, but, besides the one mistake of opping Mongoose, she's obviously a sysop-worthy editor, so I stand by it. And I'm willing to be she won't prematurely sysop anyone again, because she admitted it was a mistake. So, how about everyone put their jimmies back in their pockets where the tears won't ruin them, and we consider this controversy resolved. Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 15:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I was the one who harrassed Laurelai, and the cause for her sysopping. I would normally apologize, given that I was shitfaced at the time (that imported German dark lager was on sale! It even had the labels in German!), but I have interacted with her way back on Reddit and she's not exactly the type to accept apologies. But anyway, I apologize profoundly for that incident. <font color=#CC0033>|₹Λ¥$€₦₦  [[image:Red rose 02 -.jpg.svg|12px]] So you see, we have to kill animals, or else they'll die. 15:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Not that I disagree with you, but the claim is that I sysoped prematurely, not Laurelai.
 * PS: that I sysoped Mongoose that is. 15:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The biggest issue here is not so much that Mongoose was sysopped prematurely, and even Femilisk admitted that it was a mistake. It's that LauraLei, who herself has been here 5 minutes, took it upon herself to then repeatedly re-sysop Mongoose, despite requests not to, and then became abusive from the start. This is not behaviour conducive to working well on the wiki. Mongoose hasn't helped their own cause, by posting nothing but trollish comments, again undermining the suitability for adminship. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 15:14, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And looking at LL's "harassment" link - really? "A person who has all the inherent lovability, charm and importance of an excised genital wart has called me "pond scum"!" was grounds for sysopship, given that her first comment was "And now my opinion of you has been reduced to pond scum." Clearly you don't get to throw names around, then bleat about being harassed, when somebody calls you names back. --<font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 15:18, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * EC. My bad. I started following the chain on Laurelai's talk page, so that's where I thought the problem started. Anyway, Psy made noises about taking the guy who sysopped Laurelai to the Coop, so might as well get that out there. So you swear on a Bible or a Torah or a copy of the Grundrisse or stack of Archie comics or whatever you hold dearly and promise not to commit the egregious crime of sysopping someone prematurely ever ever ever again, and Raysenn promises not to drink and edit and drag stuff from another website over here and we can all move on. Yes? Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 15:11, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have already done that at least twice above. 15:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 15:13, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @ Psy. Mongoose will not be a sysop anytime soon, so let's leave that aside. Yup, people are prone to taking an abusive and insulting tone. We can all wish they wouldn't, and probably the best way to make sure they don't is to not engage with them when they do, and/or to lead by example and not do it ourselves. God grant me the strength to actually live that out. Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 15:18, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If the only problem is that somebody was abusive, why did this need to get moved to the coop? 15:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And I would argue that my allegedly abusive behavior was self-defense. Gremlin threw an elbow. I responded in kind, and he completely flipped out.Mongoose (talk) 15:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Raysenn is biased
Hes the one who linked to doxxing information on my userpage, why does he think he has the right to get in the middle of this? --Laurelai (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * a) I never got in the middle of this. I only moved the discussion here. b) I never posted personal information; I merely commented on how you doxxed someone and your terrible moderation back on Reddit. <font color=#CC0033>|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ [[image:Red rose 02 -.jpg.svg|12px]] Good job guys. You were so busy karate fighting that you let Jesus escape. 15:11, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

No you linked an encyclopedia dramatica article that *has personal information about me*. You literally did that. That was you. Seriously. And no i dont accept any kind of apology from you. Too little, too late. Go away.--Laurelai (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Encyclopedia Dramatica was down at the time, dummy. I linked to /r/SubredditDrama, which can't have personal information as per Reddit's most strictly applied rule. <font color=#CC0033>|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ [[image:Red rose 02 -.jpg.svg|12px]] The rose! The rose! It's in my eyes! 15:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What does it actually matter what you specifically linked to? What was the point of assuming who she was and "exposing" her? 15:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Is this a case for the Coop, or are you folks just having an argument that you can have on each others' talk pages? If it's the former, great. If it's the latter, I will archive this thread as it's not a Coop case. Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 15:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What is the argument? To me it seems it's just people wanting to bring some talk page stuff to the coop... 15:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Im showing the person who brought this here has a preexisting bias and acted on it, and not because of any real violation deserving to be here.--Laurelai (talk) 15:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * They keep saying they have a preexisting bias. So not even that is up for debate! ;) 15:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Third party case
This appears to have been copied here by Raysenn, who is not actually a party in any way (and, as noted above, may have been stoking this drama previously). Psy, are you hereby bringing this as a case as such, or is this premature? - David Gerard (talk) 15:21, 26 June 2014 (UTC) (mod hat on)
 * I'm not bringing this up as a case at all, as as far as I'm concerned, it's been resolved, despite much toys-out-of-cot-throwing by certain parties. Just as long as people are clear just how the handing out of buckets and mops work, I'm happy. Sadly, some people felt the need to respond with attitude and name-calling, but hey! Welcome to the internet. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 15:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't get it. I have accepted it was a premature demotion. Psy accepts I accepted. So why are we here? It's like fractal drama. 15:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ray is looking for witches to burn. --Laurelai (talk) 15:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It would be awesome if there was an actual point to debate though. 15:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Rape culture/social justice
I absolutely do not contest the categorization as being incredibly social justice related, I'm not sure the change to the navbox is an improvement. Considering that most of rationalwiki's sex related articles are about debunking stupid ideas regarding sexuality, I got the impression that the sex navbox helps get more related ideas than the social justice one did. I mean, I don't care enough to make a huge argument over it, since it's just a glorified "see also", but are you sure that social justice is more topical to the typical reader? Ikanreed (talk) 15:55, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Zero (talk - contributions) 15:59, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Revert it back. I have no strong opinions either way. :) 16:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

User: SL
Is that your sock, or are you creating signatures for other users as STEP TWO of part of some larger plan? Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * He just asked me for a signature, is that allowed? Not my sock. 16:15, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * He can ask you to do whatever the hell he wants. Go nuts. Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 16:17, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. I thought I was going to go for two faux pas in the same day. 16:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * STEP THREE:: BIZARRE CULT LIKE BEHAVIOR.---Dgener8 (talk) 21:25, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * For the record, it's (S L), not SL  11:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * (Duly Noted). (Father) (Vivian) (O&#39;Blivion) (talk) (15:00), (28) (June) (2014) (UTC)
 * (Adorable) (both) (of) (you) (.)(.) 15:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Is there a name for this?
I remember that someone in a conversation I had on /r/ainbow (or was it /r/TwoX? Memory fails me) kept pushing veganism and communism as central tenets to True Feminism™ and those filthy Bourgeoisie™ were Untrue and Heretical™ Feminists™. While the entire conversation was a shitshow, I do recall someone calling him/her out on... something. I don't remember. Is there a name for this, when someone pushes completely unrelated stuff (such as the aforementioned veganism and communism) as central tenets to feminism? <font color=#CC0033>|₹Λ¥$€₦₦  These abilities - and the charts for them - could deep-throat a sperm whale. 16:32, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No True Scotsman? I'm not sure of any other name... purists? I feel you want something specific to feminism, though. 16:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * (ec) A vegan friend posted something along those lines on her FB page the other day (I'm trying to find it) - something along the lines of you can't claim to be a feminist and not be vegetarian/vegan, due to the exploitation of the female of the species. Prolly NTS though. <font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin undefined 16:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Feminism is a huge movement. I cannot know every nook and cranny. If they start making all these horrible no true Scotsman fallacies, well, I disagree with them. I do not believe in any kind of prescriptivism. These types of normative standards are not for humans, IMO. But really, it's less important to me than other actually harmful types of people like MRAs or TERFs. 16:47, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What do you think you're accomplishing here Psy?  16:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * EC No True Scotsman is a way to dismiss people from your tribe who behave in a problematic way. No True Christian shoots up an abortion clinic, for example. Expecting feminists to match your dietary habits is just misplaced ideological purity. Father Vivian O&#39;Blivion (talk) 16:51, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * So we agree? 16:52, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. <font color=#CC0033>|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ [[image:Red rose 02 -.jpg.svg|12px]] RationalWiki, did you kill Rita? 16:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)