Talk:Miscegenation

Miscegenation laws today.
Referring to the above the article states they still figure: to varying degrees in the citizenship laws of Germany, Ireland, Israel, and many Native American tribes. I find this hard to believe and I have inserted fact tags. --Bobbing up 14:31, 19 December 2007 (EST)

It's slippery - but for example, the idea that any Jew automatically gets Israeli citizenship while someone with a Jewish father and Gentile mother, for instance, does not, would fall under that category; I don't know about US rules, but a lot of the benefits open to Native (ie. "Indian") Canadians are not available to children born to "mixed" parents. As for the Germans, according to one German gov't website, the descendents of "ethnic Germans" who left the country in the 18th century or whose families were displaced in the war "enjoy the 'right of return' under Germany's constitution and may take up residence in Germany." I imagine "miscegenation" might complicate that sort of thing....PFoster 12:17, 19 December 2007 (EST)


 * I've deleted that whole ref and put a fact tag on the statement about miscegenation figuring at all. There's information on the German laws here (in English) and I know for a fact that Ireland doesn't have such laws. I think the editor who added the statement was a little confused. Almost all countries have an element of jus sanguinis in their laws but that's just to make sure that, for example, a German couple that have a child abroad can claim German nationality for their child when they return. The idea that jus sanguinis has anything to do with miscegenation is simply false. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 15:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

This article should be deleted due to Godwin
Godwin = you lose. Delete this page please.
 * No. Тy Lonely. Ever so lonely. 18:27, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Godwin's Corollary. ThunderkatzHo! 20:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I hate that this word still exists -- it's rooted in some seriously nasty, nasty history. The fact that we still need a bit of language to talk about people with differing amounts of melanin in their skin or other such characteristics bumpin' uglies says we haven't really left that history behind. BbMaj7 Doin' to you in your ear hole. 20:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Godwin's law doesn't really apply when you are talking about actual historical examples of your issue. thanks for trying, though....[[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]En attendant Godot  20:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Miscegenation and male sex targeting
Psychologist Glenn Wilson writes (in an essentialist fashion disregarding the fact that some women too have fetishes) "it is men and not women who become attached to unusual sex objects such as high-heeled shoes, small boys and disciplinarian women":

(Link to racist garbage removed. Go back through the history if you insist on seeing this crap)

A black penis in a white pussy could EASILY fall into this category. Think about it: it's a similar visual contrast that you get with black stockings and suspenders on a white woman's legs and thighs. Now suppose a white male masturbated to interracial porn and fetishised it, but at the same time this increased his latent feelings of racism, sexism and anger, and created a desire to get revenge against black males as a group. This is similar to classical conditioning.

Suppose that a white male masturbated to IR porn so much that he ceased to become aroused by white-on-white sex, and whilst he still finds women sexually attractive, he finds it difficult to actually orgasm without the sight of a black penis in a white pussy, thus creating sexual dysfunction.--Just and Honest (talk) 14:35, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Suppose you moved out of your parents' basement and got yourself some therapy. B♭maj7 (talk) Member of the Kara Duhe fan club since 2010 14:43, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't live in my parents' basement. I am not from the USA either. I am, however, an alcoholic. That particular web page you removed contained no reference to race (although the site as a whole does) and was actually an excerpt from Glenn Wilson's 1989 book The Great Sex Divide. Something should really be done about IR porn, like, say, criminalizing it, because it has the ability to induce psychosis. Anders Breivik was a heavy internet user and there can be no doubt he must have seen IR porn.--Just and Honest (talk) 15:12, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You're either a troll or you need the advice of a mental health professional. Thanks for stopping by, but I really don't think there's a lot to talk about here. B♭maj7 (talk) Member of the Kara Duhe fan club since 2010 15:22, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I wonder if Anders liked UV porn, too. My favorite spectrum of porn is the ULF porn.  Good stuff, that.  Black dick white pussy is about ART and CONTRAST.   So good to know.  i always thought it was about controlling our women, and the big black rape.[[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot   Tue pour toujours, et tu veux vivre aussi. 15:26, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright then Big Sister, so porn is art? Bear in mind that I'm not American and most black people I see are African immigrants. Most of the black men that I see are shorter and weaker than me.--Just and Honest (talk) 00:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's alright, sweetie. Bed time is near and you can have some milk and cookies, ok?  By the way, can porn be art?  can art be porn?  I suspect both are true.  [[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot   Tue pour toujours, et tu veux vivre aussi. 00:50, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

How genetically close are the races?
A white man who married a pure African Bantu would be more genetically to other unrelated white men than to his own mixed-race child.KingtheKing (talk) 03:01, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Uhhh... genetics doesn't quite work that way, especially when the genetic differences between "white" (whatever you may mean by that) and sub-Saharan West African are so minor that they have no effect at all on the viability or development of the offspring. Put it this way -- there's probably bigger differences between a schnauzer and a coyote, and their puppies would usually still be able to breed and generally thrive. EVDebs (talk) 03:28, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually there is more variation between "black" and "white" groups than between, this is a known fact.
 * That sentence makes no sense and even if you're saying what I think you're trying to say, it's irrelevant in real-world terms. I award you no points. EVDebs (talk) 08:26, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

sub-saharan african claim
Could one of you find a ref that supports your edit ? I thought I had read that some africans did not show the neandertal genes and others showed varying percantages. I have added a fact tag to the article. Hamster (talk) 03:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't take on serious claims like "debunks racial purity", though I have added the recent researches about Neanderthal Genes. Contractor (talk) 03:48, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hamster, read:-

"In two new studies, genetic researchers have shown that about 20 percent of the Neanderthal genome survives in modern humans of non-African ancestry and identified exactly which areas of the human genome retain segments of Neanderthal DNA."
 * You may want to rewrite. Best Contractor (talk) 03:56, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Question
Can one be proud of #not being able to spell this particular word#, as well as having never used or said it? 31.51.113.212 (talk) 21:44, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Update the Neanderthal claims with newer findings
Up until when the article was mostly edited, it was in fact thought that native Africans had no Neanderthal DNA, based on available evidence.

As the article states: "In 2014 it was discovered that non-African living humans have DNA from archaic humans like Neanderthals in their genomes."

But there's newer evidence released in 2020 that native Africans too carry a meaningful amount of Neanderthal DNA, so I think we should rephrase it accordingly!

Quoting the paper below: "Our results refine our understanding of Neanderthal ancestry in African and non-African populations and demonstrate that remnants of Neanderthal genomes survive in every modern human population studied to date."

Can we rephrase it?

Here's the sources to the article and paper:

Article Report on Science And the paper itself--Kaichou (talk) 05:12, 15 August 2022 (UTC)