Talk:Eleonóra Dubiczki

How to link Hu1 + snuki146 to her real name eleonora
snuki146 = eleonora46; this she revealed on the following blog about metapedia: https://nordicantisemite.com/2014/07/19/metapedia-an-alternative-to-wikipedia%E2%9C%A1/comment-page-1/#comment-1292

Her account Hu1 at Metapedia also revealed her name eleonora; http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?title=User:Eleonora&action=history Dr. Witt (talk) 18:19, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Picture issue
The same person who originally uploaded the picture that was deleted over copyright concerns returned on three accounts I've spotted so far. One named "Asian Dude" (the person has no ancestry from Asia) uploaded the previously removed image again. I would ask others to check out the fair use rationale, which I don't think qualifies.

There is no evidence the photo is of the person on Metapedia/Rightpedia. This may be an entirely innocent person. The Twitter account has things like this praising a black rapper for consuming marijuana at the same time the article cites racist quotes by the person. So they probably have an entirely wrong identity. Merkel (talk) 13:22, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, I have not posted on this website before. Not wrong identity though of Eleonóra Dubiczki. The photograph is of her, it appears on her ED article as well and is public. It has been established elsewhere on this website that you are a Rightpedia admin Merkel, you post as "Wyatt" at Rightpedia and you want these pages deleted on Rationalwiki. Unlikely this is going to happen. Asian dude (talk) 16:18, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * 1: Please do not accuse others of being neo-Nazis without a good amount of proof. 2: Encyclopaedia Dramatica should never, ever be used as the only source for something, especially relating to somebody's personal identity. I am going to remove the picture from the article unless you can give us reasonable evidence that it isn't doxxing and is actually her. Additionally, please do not accuse somebody of lying about their identity, . 16:25, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * There is irrefutable evidence that Eleonóra Dubiczki is the owner of Rightpedia. She registered the website in her name, you can find this information online on whois websites, I won't link to it though as it gives her home address in Hungary but anyone can easily find it. Rightpedia is being hosted by GoDaddy, I received information that it is going to be closed soon as the website is in violation of their policies. GoDaddy had previously hosted but closed the The Daily Stormer for racist content. Asian dude (talk) 16:28, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing that she's not the owner of Rightpedia, you simply haven't given enough evidence that the picture is actually of her. Since it's not 100% proven to be her, I'm not going to leave it up, as we could be putting an innocent woman's picture up on an article about a hateful neo-Nazi. I do not want that to happen for obvious reasons. 16:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * If you run a Google image search on Eleonóra Dubiczki, you will see that image has been used on a number of blogs and forums. It appears on her public Facebook page. All the anti-fascists I have spoken to have technical evidence that Eleonóra Dubiczki is running Rightpedia but if you have any doubts sure, leave it off. I am not so bothered about an image. Asian dude (talk) 16:35, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Eleonora publically lists her info, not doxing
Eleonora is the owner of Rightpedia and posts white supremacism and describes blacks as "subhuman apes", but they like black rap music. That's why they are laughed at on websites like Encylopedia Dramatica. Regardless, Rightpedia should be offline soon - multiple complaints now sent to its web host about the neo-Nazi and white supremacist content, while its also been reported to the SPLC and Nick Lowles/Hope not Hate. There will probably soon be an article exposing Eleonora on their website soon.

Eleonora published her info public on a simple Whois search for Rightpedia, so the following is not doxing:

https://domaintyper.com/whois/rightpedia.info

Enjoy.Nick Lowles Fan (talk) 16:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The only minor discrepancy is eleonora's real surname might be goldmann (as she lists on the registrant) rather than her online alias: "dubicki". "goldmann" is a Jewish surname "Goldman Name Meaning. German (Goldmann) and Jewish (Ashkenazic): variant of Gold. Jewish (Ashkenazic): metronymic from the Yiddish female personal name Golde."

The fact eleonora is an anti-Semite/Nazi is why they might not use their real surname on social media. A case of a self-hating Jew? Nick Lowles Fan (talk) 16:27, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Her real name is Eleonóra Dubiczki, there is a lot of evidence for this. The Goldmann was a shill to try and conceal her second name. Dubiczki has defamed a lot of people on Rightpedia, so she is protective about her identity. BTW Dubiczki wrote a defamatory article on Rightpedia about Nick Lowles. I have no doubt a lot of Dubiczki's edits on Rightpedia are illegal. Asian dude (talk) 16:40, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Correcting some misinformation

1)

"Nick Lowles Fan" for your issue about the article on "Nick Lowles" at Rightpedia, it has one sole edit from user Vajna. Vajna is simply a bot that imports content from backups. If you look at the earliest contributions of Vajna there, December 22-25 or so was when Vajna was mass importing content to Rightpedia. Thousands of pages a day, far more than anyone can write. http://en.rightpedia.info/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Vajna&dir=prev&target=Vajna

If someone did write an article, there's usually more than one edit.

Rightpedia imported its articles from Metapedia. The "Nick Lowles" article was deleted there but the deletion logs show that "and the only contributor was "Basileus"". Basileus wrote a bunch of hit articles and then vanished after the split between Metapedia and Rightpedia. Basileus never returned.

http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Nick+Lowles

You can look at any of the pictures in Rightpedia's "Nick Lowles" article. They are uploaded by "Maintenance script" on Rightpedia. And then Metapedia, you'll see they were uploaded by Basileus.

The vast majority of articles on Rightpedia that give someone's personal name and do attacks on them were wrriten by Basileus.

2)

For the issue of the domain owner listing her infor publicly, well right now Rightpedia's domain info is set private again. It looks like it was temporarily made unprivate. As to why, I don't know but Nick Lowles Fan said they and others sent "multiple complaints now sent to its web host". When a domain registrar is spammed with complaints, it's very common for them to remove the whois privacy protection, even if it totally violates their policy. It's just something registrars do.

If you can see an updated whois site such as https://www.ip-address.org/tracer/ip-whois.php it shows it is private once more. This shows the recent complaints "Nick Lowes fan" sent with his many multiple identities resulted in them removing privacy protection. Hence it was their registrar giving out their personal information without their knowledge or consent.

Merkel (talk) 18:16, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Merkel, you are just scared Eleonora or yourself are going to get into legal problems or trouble with the police for writing racist things at Rightpedia!! Firstly Vajna is not a bot, this user has talked to users on her user-page . It is public information that GoDaddy is hosting the racist Rightpedia website . Eleonora later tried to hide it but it was too late by then, the information had been archived! Also the information that Nick Lowles Fan linked was not the domain information, it was the registry information, she registered the name of the website with Namecheap but they are not hosting the website, GoDaddy is doing that. Asian dude (talk) 18:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Per "Also the information that Nick Lowles Fan linked was not the domain information, it was the registry information"-- That is the same thing.  You also ignored everything I just said about the "Nick Lowles" article being made when Vajna was importing thousands of articles a day, all images uploaded by "maintenance script" mass uploaded thousands a day, and the article from Metapedia which was solely made by user "Basileus" and images solely uploaded by user "Basileus".   Merkel (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * LOL. You have spent the last 3 years defaming people on Rightpedia and writing extremely racist things about people, the first hint at any trouble and you try and blame someone else and cry like a baby. Why are you trying to blame Metapedia? These defamatory articles on anti-fascists like Nick Lowles are being hosted at Rightpedia, not anywhere else. It makes no difference who wrote them originally, it matters who the owner is and where it is being hosted now. The owner of the website is Eleonóra and she is in a lot of trouble!!! This is a big win for Antifa. It is funny to see you guys turn on yourselves. Anti racist skinhead (talk) 19:06, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * "That is the same thing", no it is not the same thing Merkel. The Registrant and domain are different things. The name was registered through Namecheap and they keep their information public about Eleonóra. The domain information has now been hidden by Cloudflare but hidden rather late, we know GoDaddy is hosting the website because it was public at one point. I am not really interested in this debate anymore. Rightpedia will not be online much longer. Game over. Move a long now. Asian dude (talk) 19:14, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Actually the address Eleonóra Dubiczki the owner of Rightpedia listed as her registrant details with Namecheap were fake. She gave as a Tesco store as her address and a fake phone number and fake second name. The Anti-Defamation League and Hope not Hate have been trying to close Rightpedia down for about a year now, so this information is very useful. In the above conversation someone talked about these registrant details being genuine, no they were fake, but a day after the conversation with Merkel and the registrant details have been protected and are no longer public. So someone here tipped off the owner of Rightpedia. Who could that be? It can only be Merkel. 192.99.7.170 (talk) 19:13, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

ED
Is it really appropriate to cite Encyclopædia Dramatica as a credible source? How do we know these pseudonyms, and the linked Twitter and Instagram accounts, all belong to the same person? CowHouse (talk) 06:08, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * As per ED, ED is not a reliable source. Bongolian (talk) 07:31, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


 * "ED is not a reliable source". The ED article on Eleonóra Dubiczki was written by Michaeldsuarez a former rationalwiki member . I have personally checked his research. There is reliable evidence and technical that Eleonóra Dubiczki owns those accounts, more evidence for this can be found on the ED talk-page. The evidence is pretty much irrefutable but you have not looked. You also say ED is not a reliable source (agreed it isn't in many cases) but it was yourself who added it to the article! Before your edit, no other user had mentioned ED or linked to it, the article was using other sources. If you do not consider ED a reliable source why did you add it as a source to this article in the first place? You have now deleted the article without a proper deletion discussion. This now plays in Dubiczki's favor. She is a neo-Nazi who should be exposed but you have deleted her article. Anti racist skinhead (talk) 08:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We did have an AfD; it was just very quick. The vote was 4-0 in favor of deletion. 13:05, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It was actually 5-0.
 * The "former rationalwiki member" you linked to was blocked for infinity due to "[o]nsite troublemaking & offsite doxxing of RW users". Also, I don't see anyone with that username in the revision history of her ED page.
 * I checked and you are correct that Bongolian added the ED reference to the article. I can't say why Bongolian did this but I do know that this was after Bongolian had tried to find evidence that the pseudonyms all belonged to Dubiczki, and none of the prior references demonstrated this. Also, it is incorrect that no other user had mentioned ED. DangerZone mentioned ED in the chicken coop discussion about the Dubiczki page. CowHouse (talk) 13:53, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia sockpuppet investigation
The article was originally deleted for not enough sources; now though there is a Wikipedia sockpuppet investigation confirming most names and Rightpedia/Metapedia to Eleonora:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Eleon%C3%B3ra_Dubiczki/ArchiveDebunking spiritualism (talk) 10:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Eleonóra Dubiczki used a Tesco store as Rightpedia's registrant address
Eleonóra Dubiczki used a Tesco store for Rightpedia's registrant address with Namecheap, this is illegal. Tesco said they are taking action and have reported the abuse to Hungarian police. Possible future news coverage on this. 192.99.7.170 (talk) 19:02, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Dubiczki used fake name "Eleonora Goldmann". 37.9.61.18 (talk) 20:43, 7 March 2018 (UTC)