Fun talk:Hot l Baltimore

Crazeland
So you go to bed thinking everything is fine with the world, everything is in order. Then you wake to this and the world crumbles into disarry. What is this about anyway? Ace McWickedDisco Jesus 20:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And why is it "The Weeping____"? Why not "The Exploding_____" or "The Sordid Palour of_____"? Ace McWickedDisco Jesus 20:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but if RW is to have a pub at all, it is going to be called the Goat and Jerboa. No arguments. -- 20:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "The Sordid Palour of the Goat and Jerboa". But seriously, whats going on here. A new bar, drink counter with a cactus motiff? Ace McWickedDisco Jesus 20:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * CUR is attempting to amuse himself. It isn't a pretty sight. -- 20:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're doing it this way because you're like 15 and haven't spent the better part of your adult life slumped over a bar in a bad neighborhood. I doubt very many people seek out bars filled with TVs and the wildlife exhibit should be me and Ace after a few bottles of bourbon. Proper dive bars, which lately seem to only exist in this city as "old man bars" filled with ancient Ukrainians and Polish getting into fist fights by the jukebox (filled with Hank Williams, the Louvin Brothers, and oddly, 90's era Bruce Springsteen) are usually first names in the possessive. Arthur's Place would be fine. Something on the verge of cute like the Empty Bottle, or the Rendezvous Lounge or Fantasy Lounge would also be fine. I could get use to "AIR CONDITIONED INSIDE" and "THURSDAY IS LADIES NIGHT" in blinking neon. The bathroom needs to have sticky floors and smell like and animal's den. You can set out a transistor radio for the Manchester United games. The food menu need consist of no more than bags of pretzels on a peg board on sale for pocket change. Don't forget to unban smoking indoors. At least that's what I think. 20:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * CUR should fill this place with sluts. Haggered ex-wifes of door to door encyclopedia salesman slagging their asses for some change to thrown into juke box. Then you can call it the Weeping Vagina. Ace McWickedDisco Jesus 20:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Look here. YOu may want a pug. You may want a dive bar, fist fights, and strippers, but this isn't one. That's what the RationalWikiWikiWiki Dive Bar is for. If you actually want entertainment and a half good drink, you come to my place. Got it? -- 21:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well then, good sir. I shall take my sluts elsewhere. Somewhere they'll get the respect they deserve. Good day. Ace McWickedDisco Jesus 21:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, those who are classy can eat here. May I suggest here. -- 21:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the Weeping Vagina idea. 21:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not as anti-you-having-your-way as Human is, but this ain't your bar. I want the bathroom key kept behind the bar and toilet tissue doled out sheet by sheet so the junkies don't make a home of the shitter. I don't want entertainment and a half good drink. I want weeping vaginas and stiff well liquor specials. 21:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

EVERYONE WHO WANTS STRIPPERS AND BAD BEER, GO HERE.

Arthur, the only place you can "control" on here is your userspace. This place is gonna get wrecked, and fast. That's what we call entertainment 22:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

This message brought to you by: -- 21:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Deletion thingy
OK, there can only be one Weeping Vagina Lion, if it's in Arthur's userspace as his own bar then he can control it, but if it's in the mainspace, it can be edited by others. Up to CUR really. 16:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Other people can vandalize edit it, but I will clean up if they make a mess using the archive. -- 16:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * CUR, you don't understand. You don't own things in the mainspace, even if you do feel like they're your own personal playground. Do you think I threw a hissy fit when my own little pet Long-eared jerboa thing significantly deviated from what I originally intended? If you play along, we all have fun. If you cry foul, people just learn to loathe you. -- 16:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If people did what they did to the Weeping Lion to the Saloon Bar, would you archive it? I'm not objecting to it, I'm merely saying it won't sit there for all eternity. -- 16:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Jeeves is right on this one. It was started in the mainspace so, by RW lore, it becomes public/mob propertly. If you want more control to just act as a janitor, restart it in your userspace. I'm sure it will still attract more than enough attention. The RW space and Mainspace are mob property to be done with as the userbase sees fit. With respect to real articles, if there's disagreements, it gets taken to the talk page, in the case of fun(ish) side projects like this, everyone needs to be a lot more lenient of what goes on with respect to editing. 16:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm just missing something since I don't get involved in this sort of thing usually. 16:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Look. The party ended. I see no problem with cleaning it up. I mean, really. It's over. Nobody's doing it anymore. If people did it again, I wouldn't archive it until they left. Consider it the janitor cleaning up after a busy day. -- 17:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Kind of reminds me of those Skins parties... 17:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem is you haven't actually told people what his is for. Everyone understands the saloon bar, it's a venue for off topic discussion built to alleviate that stuff building up on the main page and WIGO CP talk pages. In that respect it has been a smashing success, all credit to whoever thought it up. Of course, we don't need a second saloon bar. If you were prototyping stylistic changes to main saloon bar, then the place for that is your userspace. If you're building something new and different, you can hardly expect everyone else to read your mind as to its purpose. -- 17:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I built this place to replace the drink counter. Everybody understood the drink counter (I hope). It's where you get drinks and food. This is the same, but a bit more stylish. -- 17:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I hate to state the blatantly obvious but... this is a wiki. There is no food and drink. It's barely even a game really. "Saloon bar" is just a more interesting title than "general discussion" (personally, I'm fond of "Rants and Raves" for the name for the off-topic board). Trying to enact any kind of rule on the internet, particularly one where it's a wiki and can be edited almost without limit, is harder than herding LOLcats. People never use something for what it was intended for, it always gets mutilated and torn up beyond it's original intention to become something different. 17:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

(unident)So why did no one mind the original Drink Counter? -- 17:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I never really paid much attention to it except as a fairly oversized heading with some problems formatting it's random quotes. 17:28, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well now I'm throughly confused. I guess I'll just have to see what happens. -- 17:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) Noone minded the Drink Counter because you didn't go around removing stuff and enforcing your rules. --  Nx / talk 17:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

This is why we can't have nice things. &mdash; Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 17:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is better than TV. 17:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, what the hell happened to this place? You wreck the bar with friends, improve the menu and ambiance, crawl upstairs to pass out, and in the morning you find the whole place sanitized and moved away!  Where did Hot l Baltimore go?  18:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Move to userspace
19:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Move to www.arthropleura.org Totnesmartin 21:38, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. I'll be returning this thing to the delightful condition it was in when I passed out last night, shortly.  And I'll probably move to RW:Hot l Baltimore.  How's business over at centipede:the burning line?  23:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a copy in my userspace. Oh, and it isn't going well. -- 23:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You also have copies (your version) of the three templates, but they are directly under your username. Might want to move them, like User:Arthropleura/menu to User:Arthropleura/sleeping jaguar/menu.  But wherever you decide to keep them, you'll need to edit your copy of the peeing puma to call the userspace version of drinktop, and userspace drinktop to point to the userspace menu - etc.  Not too hard, it will take less time than it took me to dig out the old diffs of them to repair the mainspace ones.  Or do you want me to fix your version, as well?   23:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I meant that the business wasn't going well. Though it has been there for all of five minutes. -- 23:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. Yes, give it some time.  You might need to do more decorating, set up some parts that are more "interesting" than just "table 1", perhaps get an aquarium?  That'll bring in the kind of clientele you want, I think.  Oh, and don't forget to clearly mark the litter box.  00:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Most unfortunately, I cannot embed stuff from other websites- all the more unfortunate because I know several places with virtual aquariums. -- 01:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, get some classy pictures, at least. Do you have a piano player?  A small jazz combo?  And surely there's an aquarium video on utube?  Or you could take several pet fish pictures and have them appear randomly?  01:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * On it. -- 02:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete
Does the mission even matter to you people any more? The only one I even see editing mainspace articles much is SS, and he's here less and less. It would be tolerable if you were discussing matters related to rationalism, but all you're doing is mucking around. This place should be renamed to "Forum that used to be a rational wiki, but is now just another discussion board". 06:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * All right, that was slightly over the top but this place has to go. 06:36, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Aye.  BLast the fucker to smithereens.   DogP Marmite Patrol 06:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is really the result of people's reaction to CUR trying to order people around. I don't know why we have it at all really, it started as a joke that CUR was bar tender and he took it too far. Phantom is right, having this in project space is driving down property values. I say we use project space to start some decent projects to improve the mainspace, not that mission creep maths and zoology stuff we have got. 07:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I, as the founder of the Mathematics Project, formally shut it down (it was only in response to the Zoology Project). Typing with a cat on you is never a good idea. 07:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * none of the projects are active now, I suggest we discuss them elsewhere though. This place: fails licensing laws (bartender is underage) so let's close it down. Totnesmartin 08:54, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's move it to fun:, and if that doesn't pass muster I stuff it in my user space and delete the link at the saloon bar. Just let me know which you prefer. Oh, and quit being so pissy about the exact nature of everyone's editing activity - when something good comes along we often get heavy mainspace activity (like the Behe SxS thing, or the new young earth one). The way some people are bitching lately you'd think I'd never edited any mainspace articles... 21:15, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Why move it to fun when the general consensus here and on the inactivity page has been that it was over the top and not worth having? You don't have a problem deleting other stuff like the Pseudohistory stuff, why is this so important to save? --Kels 21:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem is that it's a discussion page, and we don't delete discussion pages. 21:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Like I said, I'd be happy to stuff it in my user space. That "saves" it, while also "burying it" out of sight and out of mind. Kind of like what I did with my election and anniversary "parties" - cleared my talk page, then archived and linked the mess when it was all over.  21:24, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If it's going to be kept at all, then that sounds like the most sensible action. Same thing as archiving wandalism. --Kels 21:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. 21:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic!
The page, and talk page, of this consists only of laughs and good times. What a wonderful watershed of hilarity. Kudos to all the made this what is. AceX-102 21:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed. With the right kind of eyes you can see the high water mark...  23:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good times. Good friends. I love you guys. Group hug. [[file:Nuttysexpistols.png|60px|link=User:Nutty Roux|Nutty Roux]][[file:Nuttytalk.png|35px|link=User_talk:Nutty_Roux|never mind]] 23:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Lotsa love in da house tonight. Hugs!  02:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've got a stiffy! AceX-102 02:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

What
is this? TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 17:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * T'was all in good fun 2 summers ago. It's all pretty much what it looks like. You might also have a look at RWW for the Weeping Lion/Weeping Vagina incident involving CUR, me and others. [[file:Nuttysexpistols.png|60px|link=User:Nutty Roux|Nutty Roux]][[file:Nuttytalk.png|35px|link=User_talk:Nutty_Roux|never mind]] 18:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a relic of the CUR era. See also Felidae and Debate:Otherkin.   18:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Ho Ho Ho!
Those were the days. AceVote Ace for Mod! 05:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

He He He!
These are the daze!  ħ uman  02:53, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

And a couple of tra la laas
RW used to be a lot more fun... Avida Dollarsher again 12:52, 28 July 2020 (UTC)