Thread:User talk:WaitingforGodot/Gauntlet pick-up/reply (2)

If you did not want to get into a point-by-point discussion, then you should not have said that you were "challenging [me] point to point."

Of course it is possible to frame any question six ways, depending on one's perspective; one thing a discussion can do is to shake out the differences between two perspectives on an issue. I had no idea that I was removing anything substantial in my edits (in fact, I went back over my edits and still cannot see what it was I took out that changed the focus so drastically), so you might need to explain your own perspective a little more.

As to the focus on facts and history, it could be argued that the article should do this, because (1) feminism pre-dates most of its philosophical treatments (a first-wave feminist, for example, would probably not even understand your first paragraph), and (2) this is a rationalist Wiki directed at a general audience that would probably be best served by a more objective/rationalist outsider's perspective, rather than interpreting the whole of feminism through the perspective and jargon of a comparatively recent academic treatment of it – although we certainly could include a section on what third-wave feminists believe to be the philosophical core of the discipline.

...everythign you've said on feminist oriented pages is flatly dismissive... If you look at what I say on certain other pages, you might grasp that what I am being flatly dismissive of is what pinkos are trying to say, never mind their gender. The issue for me is separating the legitimate points raised in feminism (the status of women in society) from the bullshit (Marxism, postmodernism, focusing overmuch on "systems,", etc.)