Talk:SomeOrdinaryGamers

Is this article missional? Some Youtuber makes videos about Internet security containing technical inaccuracies. Is that really "woo" or "pseudoscience" or whatnot? Pseudoscience means advocating bad science despite the fact one should be clearly aware it is bad, due to not caring, or intentionally rejecting the mainstream, or due to political bias, or so on; it doesn't extend to just posting low quality crap that gets stuff wrong because one doesn't know what one is talking about. If a bad physics student sleeps through most of their class, and then hands in an assignment filled with errors, is that pseudoscience, or just being shit at the real thing? 04:40, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * DeepWeb falls under conspiracy theories, and this fallss under analysis of media. Keep up the good work, Shrub! 05:12, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * "Deep Web" is a conspiracy theory? As I understand the term, it refers to a bunch of different things - (1) pages on public websites not indexed by any search engine; (2) pages accessible via the public Internet but only after authentication/payment; (3) hidden sites on Tor and similar services (Freenet, I2P). The content of the previous varies, ranging from various and sundry crap to illegal stuff like child pornography. Where is the conspiracy theory? I agree that journalists often muddle the terminology up and sometimes get a little sensationalistic, but this isn't "they are hiding aliens at Area 51 and the CIA killed JFK and 9/11 was an inside job". 05:25, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * See eg Takedownman or Red Room. 05:55, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Neither seems to be evidence that "Deep Web" is a conspiracy theory. It is well-established public knowledge that there have been Tor hidden sites used for distributing child pornography (see e.g. and ). Takedownman appears to be a person trying to exploit the awful reality of child pornography to make money for himself, and put himself forward as some kind of "child pornography investigator" (despite his lack of technical qualifications for that role, and the fact that anyone trying to investigate child pornography without the sanction of the legal authorities runs the risk of being prosecuted themselves). So, the whole shilling for money thing arguably makes Takedownman borderline missional, but that doesn't make the "Deep Web" a conspiracy theory. As to "Red Room", that is just a rather obvious and inevitable updating of an old urban legend (snuff films); snuff film legends have sometimes (but not always) had a conspiracy theory angle to them (i.e. claims that (allegedly) powerful people, like Satanists or the Illuminati or the Elders of Zion or whoever are behind them). But even if "Red Room" is in some of its incarnations a conspiracy theory about the "deep web"/"dark web", that doesn't make the "deep web"/"dark web" itself a conspiracy theory, nor do I see how it makes every poorly done Youtube video series on the topic missional either.  08:31, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Just read Deep Web, you'll get the idea pretty quickly Deku-shrub (talk) 12:32, 30 January 2016 (UTC)