RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Eurovision Song Contest

Eurovision Song Contest | Result: fun!

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Delete

 * 1) It's shit and wrong. Unless someone takes the time to rewrite this from scratch we should trash it ASAP.  Carpetsmoker (talk) 20:44, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) This article cites no sources and does not contribute to the mission of RationalWiki: to debunk crank ideas, refute pseudoscience, explore authoritarianism, etc. This article is useless and has no reason to exist.
 * there is the crank idea that losing is a result of politics rather than shitness of song. But that's more sour grapes than anythingAMassiveGay (talk) 20:53, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) "Off mission" is an understatement. --JorisEnter (talk) 21:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * # 188.226.217.117 (talk) 21:21, 12 January 2016 (UTC) Same person or someone else using the same proxy server. Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Waaay off mission.  Funspace entry permissable if somebody bothers to make it "funny and not just stupid".  21:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Why are we even discussing this? Stop getting so hung up on the process and following silly rules and learn what to do with garbage when you encounter it. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 21:31, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * To those saying "delete" JUST GOOGLE "Conchita Wurst Russian reaction" 188.226.213.28 (talk) 21:32, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Move to funspace. Bongolian (talk) 21:34, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redspace would be even better - David Gerard (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) WTF?  Delete.  -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 21:34, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Missionality not at all apparent - David Gerard (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Shouldn't even merit an AfD. Product of a brand spankin' new BoN. Then another BoN right after the first deletion.---Mona- (talk) 23:07, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * are all Bons now suspect? regardless of the worthiness of a Eurovision, its a tad paranoidAMassiveGay (talk) 23:15, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * (ec)It's most likely the same person. belongs to openproxy.co.uk.  belongs to ovh.com, which provides webhosting and is mostly likely also a proxy (its certainly not a residential internet connection), and all the IPs in the AfD and saloon have been from unblocksit.es.  Carpetsmoker (talk) 23:19, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Who cares? Checking up on users' IP location may be justified by major vandal attacks, but not for a silly article about Eurovision.  23:31, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * perhaps we should all use proxies in this era of surveillance. I fail to see how this could be construed as trolling, if that is the suggestionAMassiveGay (talk) 23:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Kill it with fire! Dunno about the rest of Europe but here in the UK it's regarded as probably below the Telly Tubbies as quality TV. Pippa (talk) 00:09, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm... not sure how its lack of popularity in one country is supposed to be at all relevant? >.> 142.124.55.236 (talk) 04:30, 13 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
 * Not the popularity but the image it's got - it's quite popular but hardly worthy of note, so are 'Bake off' and 'Strictly' but not up to our standards. It's a load of crap of the first water with a relevance of zero for any of the RW mission goals. Might just creep in to Fun space but I'd say even that's doubtful. Pippa (talk) 08:07, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Keep

 * 1) KEEP. 188.226.213.28 (talk) 20:41, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You're the frickin person who created the article! Of course you would want it to be kept. You have not given any reason for your vote, whereas I and others have. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 20:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * not great reasons thoughAMassiveGay (talk) 20:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * One reason: Russian Homophobes hate ESC 188.226.213.28 (talk) 21:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) I gonna say keep, we haven't given the bon a chance to do anything with it or any one else to weigh in. I'm not a fan of Eurovision, but I am even less a fan of po faced snobbery it attracts. Probably fun space though, unless the bon surprises me. AMassiveGay (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * #Keep because of Russian who hate gay! 37.139.20.68 (talk) 21:41, 12 January 2016 (UTC) You can vote once only Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Allow opportunity for improvement before shooting this down. Certainly surprising to many, but there is some missional stuff to be said about this contest. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 21:51, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
 * Which is a poor reason at keeping this turd. There is nothing of value in the current page. Carpetsmoker (talk) 22:21, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I disagree, I think it's a great reason for keeping this turd for now. Give the horde of IPs a couple days to work on it. If it's still complete shit after that the vaporize button will still be there. The wiki isn't gonna go down the drain just because this page exists on it. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 01:25, 13 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
 * Yep, seems to be a right-wing bugaboo. The article is shit ATM, however. 22:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

 * 1) Make into a fun page. CorruptUser (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Indeed. But make it fun.  ħ uman [[Image:human sig talk.gif|link=User talk:Human|User talk:Human]] 02:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) So much, so very, very much, material for a fun page article.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 06:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Goat

 * 1) It's not obvious trolling. At least humor the BON. 20:38, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * "not obvious trolling" -> Doubtful... Carpetsmoker (talk) 20:44, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Eurovision is clearly a tool of the Zionist patriarchy. AMassiveGay (talk) 21:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Very funny. What is Zionist? Eurovision Song Contest is important for nationalism and gays and transvetites and gay nationalism. And Russia hate Conchita Wurst. 37.139.20.68 (talk) 21:40, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It is a tool of the Zionist revisionist geographers.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 06:15, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) i'd say delete unless it redresses the whitewashing of Dana international over that Johnny come lately conchita wurst. Beards are not a good look regardless of gender. AMassiveGay (talk) 20:50, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Goats have beards. BURN FOR YOUR HERESY.  CorruptUser (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * this is why you are not allowed to play with matches and are only allowed plastic cutleryAMassiveGay (talk) 21:28, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) I must admit that I find this contest, the awful songs and awful performances, and the annual hoopla it generates intriguingly incomprehensible. Maybe funspace is the place for this. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 21:44, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Fun page is fine by me.---Mona- (talk) 23:09, 12 January 2016 (UTC)