User talk:Hastur/archive2

A summary, for those who wished to know the source of the drama: MarcusCicero asked me why I was a virgin. I told him. Some discussion ensued, I got a little embarassed, and thus oversighted it all. MarcusCicero was quite butthurt that the discussion of my virginity was censored, and he decided to bring it back. I buried it again, along with hefty parts of the deletion log. Nutty Roux got butthurt, presumably brought it all back, and decratted me (because removing bits of my talk page stabs painfully at his heart).


 * (a) I didn't restore what you hid. Nx and MC did. (b) I don't care about your personal life. I do care about people abusing Hide Revision. We don't have a lot of rules otherwise. That one's easy to follow now that you know. Just stop bing so recalcitrant about it. (c) I didn't decrat you, I desysopped you. Nx restored your rights pretty soon thereafter after leaving you instructions for using Hide Revision, which is six of one and one half of the other since I told you I'd restore your rights after you acknowledged reading the sysop manual and Nx's instructions are actually better. (d) Saying stuff like you hiding things on your talk page stabs painfully at my heart or leaves me butthurt isn't true or supported by the evidence, as my involvement in all this was minimal, and it just pisses me off. I desysoped you briefly and told you about a rule. That's it. I don't know why you're fixated on me but I'll be right there to humiliate and bully you if you lie about me, shit talk me, or want me involved in your tantrum. Cheers. Nutty Roux (talk) 04:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

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Foucault.
I'm re-reading DandP, History of Sexuality, Power/Knowledge and the Foucault Effect (alongside Hardt and Negri and Bayart) for a section in my comprehensive exams about governmentality and colonial rule. Got any other recommendations for me? P-Foster (talk) 01:08, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I dropped out of high school. Most of what I know of Foucault I learned in speech and debate, before I dropped out.  I've never read any of his books.  I've only a basic understanding of biopolitics.  I have a fascination with him and some of his ideas, but my comprehension is very limited.  All I can do to help you is provide crude summaries of certain philosophical theories.   Actually, you've just given me the idea of trying to convince my parents to pay for a university education in philosophy, but I sincerely doubt they'll buy it, seeing as how they already paid for my education in massage therapy and will be paying for my education in assistant nursing.  Actually, they've been paying for pretty much everything for two years, now, since I turned 18 and moved out with the foolish belief that I could make it on my own (3 months later I'm out of money).  So convincing them to fork it over for a university education in what can be considered a useless major is a likely impossible feat.  And, though I did quite well on my GED exam, I don't know if I can qualify for a university (although the university nearest to me, Arizona State University, is known for its lax admission standards).  So that dream died as soon as it came up.  But you did give me a glimmer of hope for about 10 seconds.  Thank you for that.--Foucault5.jpgFoucault5.jpgFoucault5.jpg-brxbrx 01:22, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, I started my BA when I was 35 at a university with incredibly lax admission standards; now I'm doing a fully-funded Ph.D. at a top-ranked school. It's never too late -- don't give up on the dream. And READ some Foucault, along with as many of the other formative thinkers of the last century and a half or longer -- it's the only way to deal with them. P-Foster (talk) 01:26, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I feel a little better now.--Foucault5.jpgFoucault5.jpgFoucault5.jpg-brxbrx 01:28, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

With regards to
this. After careful review, I will concede that you came up with the term "Saloon Bar Putsch" afore me. But I didn't "steal" it, this is just a case of GMTA. Besides, I alluded to it rather than blundering out with the term, (I prefer subtlety, like bricks). 05:58, 20 May 2011 (UTC) C ® ackeЯ
 * it's not a big deal. I was mostly joking.--Foucault5.jpgFoucault5.jpgFoucault5.jpg-brxbrx 06:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I made this for you
Template:User:Brxbrx/sig add that in your preferences under signature and it'll "sign" your current signature, just like you like it, but without adding 250bytes each and every time you sign SOME PAGE!!!!!11! 06:30, 20 May 2011 (UTC) C ® ackeЯ
 * -- 20:18, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * HA! Nope.  ur the modron.-- 20:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh good, you've figured it out. ТyUser_talk:Ty 20:22, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you know what I'm doing wrong?-- 20:23, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The page doesn't exist yet. NDSP 20:24, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * For some reason, he put it in the template namespace rather than your user. Fucking n00bs. Occasionaluse (talk) 20:26, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * it works!- 20:27, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

A certain obsession of yours
...given your recent upload and your comment on Talk:Larry Craig yesterday, I wonder if you're trying to tell us all something. P-Foster (talk) 03:56, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * lol, no, just juvenile humor-- 04:35, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Butt, you're like 20 years old? 05:12, 21 May 2011 (UTC) C ® ackeЯ
 * to each his own-- 05:15, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You're a fine one to talk "Cracker" 05:16, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You are butchering my talkpage.-- 05:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Oi, question for you
Hey there. Which article was it again that I said I'd look at for some references? It's been a month or two, and for the life of me I can't recall which one it is? Thanks for remembering though. Concernedresident keeps his promises - even the ones he forgets. Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 20:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Massage. Thanks, man--  20:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ta. I'll get to that a little later in the week. Concernedresident  omg!!! ponies!!! 23:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Things you can't do
You can't hide edit comments just because you've embarassed yourself by revealing a humiliating personal secret. I won't insist upon the comments being shown publically, but you can't hide the diffs. I also think I deserve a round of applause for my ability to detect virgins and aspies. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps you could try writing an article instead of spending your time here trolling and flaming?--  22:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with Brxbrx. MC, what in the hell do you have against virgins and aspies? The Baby Jesus loves virgins, y'know. But seriously, why are you bothering this well-intentioned editor? I mean, sure he's from ED stuff, but from what I've known of him he's a decent chap. I don't think you should bother him or discriminate him because he deviates from the typical bent of humanity, which is more savage and immoral than the path Brxbrx takes, in my humble opinion.--Colonel Sanders (talk) 22:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I have nothing against him, just that he is a nerd bereft of wit, much intelligence, and/or self awareness of his limitations. And he is intensely boring. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:22, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Meh, sorry for blocking you without the full story (not that it really has effects on Sysops). But what is it with him saying he's being discriminated based on his sexuality?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 22:25, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you on meth or something? Since when is being a virgin a 'sexuality'? I'm not doing anything wrong, he is the guy who gets a hard on by censoring community information and generally acting like an idiot. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you on meth or something? Since when is being a virgin a 'sexuality'? I'm not doing anything wrong, he is the guy who gets a hard on by censoring community information and generally acting like an idiot. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No, just been hit in the head too many times. I was just mentioning his allegations. I definitely am against censoring community information and that was a giant misstep for the gent. And being a virgin is not a sexuality per se, but it is generally frowned upon in society for some odd reason. So, what about discrimination, eh?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 22:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ah, yes, community information. whether or not I'm a virgin and why.  funny how you complain about srs bzness only when it suits you.  Then again, that's why you're here.  to troll.--  22:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And why are you here exactly? That was the broad thrust of my question. You seem to have taken the worst aspects of your real life personality and superimposed them on the internet. Accept that this site embraces and welcomes freedom of thought and speech and that censorship is anathema to it. Get that, and you will survive here. If you don't, then frankly you can fuck off. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I also have written many articles and contributed to many more. Look at my mainspace contributions before induling in your atypical stupidity. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:24, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed. 130 mainspace edits and 3 articles over the last 1260 days. Truly impressive. ТyUser_talk:Ty 22:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ty, sooner or later you're going to realise that making 000s of edits such as adding categorisations or correcting grammar on a website that doesn't pretend to be an encyclopedia will not compensate for your profound lack of social skills in real life. Now run off and cry, and pretend to leave and never come back (Again) MarcusCicero (talk) 22:43, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yawn. You think that because I bother here I lack social skills. Interesting. I presume next will be accusations of Aspergers followed by remarks about virginity, and a good round of general obscenity. I've heard worse remarks from middle schoolers. You aren't original, or even interesting. You know nothing about anything useful, you are effectively a parasite, who pops in whenever there is a community crisis. You oppose all new reform, because you realize that should a coherent policy be put in place, you won't last very long. Who is really wasting their time here? I've learned a lot, I owe this site a personal debt. You? You try to insult other people on the internet. Doing a heck of a job there. You whine about authoritarianism, whilst being authoritative. Tell me, in real life do you perform a useful function? Do you have a job? Work at a charity? Volunteer? I doubt it. You will likely make some sob story, as you have in the past. You think you matter. 10 years down the line, nobody will remember me. And nobody will remember you either. ТyUser_talk:Ty 22:56, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ouch-- 23:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah Ty. Thats why you wear a hat and pose for stupid pictures on the internet. Nutty hit the nail on the head with you frankly. You have no credibility.
 * Seriously guys, this is like a flashmob of socially inept, easily offensible adolescents who just had their first can of Dutch Gold. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:40, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * From his edits, I could possibly see him as a teen who thinks trolling wikis is fun for some odd reason. Not that I know or even assert that, but the immaturity would point to that.--Colonel Sanders (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * MC is an Irish university student, I believe. He seldom reveals much about himself because it would lead to real connections that his trolling would then jeopardize, but a few things are obvious.  He is enamored of a few particular figures in history, but has the context-less skepticism of a dilettante in the field.  I will say that those traits have decreased somewhat, so I'd wager he's either graduated or advanced in a postgraduate degree of some sort.  Not an autodidact.-- 05:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Can I just say that I absolutely adore the irony of TomMoore calling me a dilettante. This, of course, from the postmodernist, the most dilettante of all philosophies. (Anyone can be a postmodernist, it requires very little intellectual discipline) 11:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Wicked burn, Johannes Factotum.-- 12:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

What, exactly are you doing to the Deletion Log?
Eh? P-Foster (talk) 22:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * annoying MC, mostly-- 22:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That's not what it's for, and that's not what you're supposed to do with your sysoppery. smarten up. P-Foster (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a gross abuse of community trust to do that. Especially since you're just covering up shit that's just embarrassing but not personal identifying information. Stop it. Nutty Roux (talk) 22:15, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

What is your purpose here?
What joy do you derive from this site? Why do you hold the ancient liberties of rationalwikians in such contempt? Why do you want to grant draconian powers to a new moderating class? Why do you want to persecute site dissidents? Why are you still a virgin? MarcusCicero (talk) 8:48 am, Today (UTC−4)
 * I am still a virgin because my appearance and personality are not up to the standard I have for women. Basically, I'm only interested in the ones that are out of my league.--  9:20 am, Today (UTC−4)
 * Striving for more sometimes sucks. --ǓḤṂ³ 9:32 am, Today (UTC−4)
 * I think it was Mark Twain who said, "I wouldn't want to have sex with a woman who'd have sex with a guy like me." Or something like that. ThunderkatzHo! 22:22, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Brxrx,picture RationalWiki as a woman who's way out of your league. Get the picture?Nutty Roux (talk) 9:35 am, Today (UTC−4)
 * I think I'm doing just fine.-- 9:39 am, Today (UTC−4)
 * I guess you won't mind the odd kick in the nuts then?  Lily Inspirate me. 9:43 am, Today (UTC−4)
 * A woman? Touching me?  It would be my honor should you wish to kick  me the balls--  9:45 am, Today (UTC−4)
 * aaww man, it's back. apparently, nutty roux and marcuscicero are quite concerned with my sexuality.--  22:19, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that's wrong for them to be. Why? RW isn't based on that crap, anyway.--Colonel Sanders (talk) 22:19, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nutty changed the topic, as far as I can see. 04:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ?-- 04:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

"Butthurt"
You don't get it do you? What you did was an abuse of your powers and a violation of community standards. Moreover, you did it at a time when nerves are still frayed, and people are still pissed off/on edge. This isn't about personalities or people feeling "butthurt." Grow up, man. P-Foster (talk) 22:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * seriously? you act like I raped your mother.  I oversighted some edits.  I didn't delete any articles or anything, I just got rid of some dumb edits and here you are flipping out.  This a talk page.  The discussion here is almost completely irrelevant to the wiki's mission.  Maybe I aren't supposed to use oversight to play with it, but I think you are overreacting.--  22:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And I don't think you get this site. Maybe now is the time where you pretend to leave and never come back, and thus try and generate some positive sympathy for yourself. MarcusCicero (talk) 22:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It is generally against RW community standards to censor edits, no matter what they be.--Colonel Sanders (talk) 22:50, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It is generally against the standards, but that does not mean it isn't done. Maybe the noobs are getting confused, because it's been going on a lot recently without much backlash. 22:53, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a principle involved. It's not like an apology is needed - just acceptance that this kind of thing shouldn't be happening. Concernedresident  omg!!! ponies!!! 22:55, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * @Blue: no it ain't. @Brxbrx: please acknowledge that you've read this. One you've done so I'll restore your rights. If you abuse them again they're gone for good. No more excuses about it not being as big a deal as raping P-Foster's mother, etc., no more back talk, no more fucking around with the few things we take seriously. Nutty Roux (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Nutty, I didn't realize this was about revisiondelete, thought it was just about removing talk page comments. 23:13, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

RE:
I replied to your email, perhaps you'll better understand my position with my reply. DMorris2 (talk) 02:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll get right on it. I hope you had fun reading my talk page.  It's like a soap opera in here!--  02:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

RevisionDelete
I'll restore your sysop rights now. -- Nx  / talk 06:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Only hide the edit comment when there's something in the edit comment that needs hiding.
 * 2) You usually don't need to hide the editor's name, and hiding it removes the edit from their contribution list, so only hide it if the editor's name needs hiding (e.g. it's an IP address)
 * 3) Don't hide entries in the deletion log.

"to be fair, my medication is really helping me out"
Here's some advice -- instead of oversharing about your medical and sexual history, and then backpedalling through the deletion log once you've had second thoughts, don't bring these things up in the first place. P-Foster (talk) 16:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please don't block me because you don't like what I said. Nutty Roux (talk) 16:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * meh. I don't really care anymore.--  17:09, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey Marcus
Nice sock, eh?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 17:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * But seriously, is that true?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 17:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Not to my knowledge. Occasionaluse (talk) 17:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * OK.--Colonel Sanders (talk) 17:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not a sock of anyone. Even MarcusCicero is not sad enough to go to such lengths to troll.--  17:45, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * On second thought... Occasionaluse (talk) 17:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If you are Marcus, knock it off and talk with your real account!--Colonel Sanders (talk) 23:20, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure. What exactly is it that you want to know? MarcusCicero (talk) 09:42, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Why you have this sock.--Colonel Sanders (talk) 01:20, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Why did you block me?
Just curious, since it seemed to be for zero time. September Storm (talk) 03:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * rice burner, at least in this case, is not a racial slur. Just a car thing.--  03:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it's a slur, and was not making the article better. Please do not revert my edit again. September Storm (talk) 03:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * here's all I've got. --  03:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * So does "Rice burner is a pejorative describing Japanese-made—or by extension, Asian-made—motorcycles and automobiles" work? September Storm (talk) 03:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You mean like as a footnote?-- 03:48, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed "rice burners" (which was grammatically incorrect anyway,) but left in the stuff in the parentheses. 03:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC) C ® ackeЯ
 * I don't know why I even intervened. I know nothing about cars.  I ride the bus and walk everywhere.  Or take the light rail.--  03:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't either, since I know what I am talking about - and apparently, you don't, in this case. Car girl here. September Storm (talk) 04:00, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * oh, boy. I was hoping to burn some more bridges on this site.--  04:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

About the "V" thing
According to this I'm a 52 year-old (the V word). I'm also a SIX, according to this. You are right to not be shamed by who you are, if other people cannot handle it maturely, fuck 'em, (though, not, of course), literally. 04:04, 28 May 2011 (UTC) C ® ackeЯ
 * P.S. I like how the bi(b)le verse haz the term "first fruits" in it. C ® ackeЯ
 * thx for your support. In hindsight, The whole thing seems rather silly now, my actions included.  Unfortunately it sparked some drama over at RWW with nutty deciding to broadcast that ty is a virgin.  but that seems mostly over now.--  04:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No one reads RWW except the people who write it, so I wouldn't call that "broadcasting". But whatever.  04:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Richard Stallman
As P-Foster said, the use of the first person is not appropriate for mainspace articles. Additionally, your edit is a completely unnecessary addition to the article that does nothing more than duplicate things the article already says. 03:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * it's a joke in reference to Stallman's self-congratulatory style and habit of talking about Linux. IT'S A JOKE. JOKE. --  03:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It fails as humour. Move along kid. The grownups are talking. P-Foster (talk) 03:52, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * you just don't get it. anyways, I was hoping to burn some more bridges on this site-- 03:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Well you're going about it wrongly. Try making those sigpics about 200px and you'll have a whole slew of burnt bridges before you can say, "I have to get up for school tomorrow". 04:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC) C ® ackeЯ
 * (EC) That is the sort of thing that belongs in funspace. Fictional quotations that are not obviously fictional (1) fail as humor, and (2) are flat-out lies rather than hyperbole. 04:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Uh-huh
You're smerter than 99% of the other people who took the General Educational Development test? Good fer you! If only they had a component or module for that on how not to be an ass! 04:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC) C ® ackeЯ
 * sheesh, I was joking. --  04:12, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Waterboarding.
Learn what it is. king of the rats do you wanna kick it in the backseat? 05:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * it was a joke (and for once, not one of mine). Obviously, a baptism is not waterboarding.  It was merely being equated as such.  Does noone understand humor here anymore?  Get those sticks out of your asses--  05:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * wow. even listenerX got the joke.  and that guy is srsly humorless--  05:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * People do not get most of my jokes, which means that I have come to prefer dry wit. With dry wit, if no one gets the joke, they will interpret it in the "straight" manner and I am not subjected to the humiliation of having told a bad joke. 05:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * As long as somebody laughes, even it is you, a joke is not wasted. --ǓḤṂ³ 22:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

How about you make your 'wikibreak' permanant?
Don't feel obliged to come back, I'm sure we'd find a way to overcome your loss. BTW, what age are you? MarcusCicero (talk) 22:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Virgin aspie fascist authoritarian. P-Foster (talk) 22:53, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You forgot "geek". --ǓḤṂ³ 22:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * basement dweller. P-Foster (talk) 22:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)