Draft talk:Tankie Glossary

This should be merged with draft:communist glossary
Any objections? Christopher (talk) 19:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It should probably be a subsection, so as to convey that Tankies are a subset of Communists. 19:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The article itself says the terms aren’t all exclusive to tankies, although I imagine the more universal terms will already be defined in the communist glossary. I’m starting to think this should just be deleted. Christopher (talk) 19:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Is it okay to strawman a bit in these kinds of quippy definition lists?
You know, for brevity?

Like the actual argument you see against liberal democracy usually even by the worst tankies, is that the factionalism native to it divides the working class and thereby allows those whose power runs parallel to government power (i.e. wealth or institutional power, like a church) and play both sides against the middle and resist any kind of lasting reform that threatens that power. The fact that the implied solution is a single-party state means that the definition given under liberal democracy isn't inaccurate per se, just that it glosses over the reasoning to straight to totalitarianism representation. I don't know that I'd call it pointedly dishonest, but I wouldn't call it good or fair either.

On the other hand, it's a listicle, trying to be totally fair in every point would be a fools errand of long-windedness. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 03:35, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Work that needs to be done
Before this page goes to mainspace, each entry should have at least one citation showing actual usage by tankies. Bongolian (talk) 17:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

how is 'cockroach' tankie terminolgy?
it was infamously used in rwanda by hutus to refer to tutsi and to spark a genocide. Katie hopkins used it to refer to refugees. piss poor history and a socialist/communist using it once does not make it a tankie phrase. these glossaries are ridiculous AMassiveGay (talk) 07:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

"Charm offensive"
Uh, what is a charm offensive? "Fellow traveler"'s entry in the glossary refers to it as a "charm offensive" and then provides little other context. --Luigifan18 (talk) 21:17, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Anti-revisionism should not be included in this glossary
Nearly all Communists who support China, Russia, etc. reject Anti-revisionism as being "Ultra-left" and dogmatic. Further, nearly all Communists and Communist parties which identify with being Anti-revisionist understand China and Russia to be imperialist, and dislike other Communist Parties which generally fall into the Tankie grouping such as the Party for Socialism and Liberation, the Party of Communists USA, the Workers World Party etc.

Anti-revisionism is not solely characterized by its support for the leadership and legacy of Stalin, but also its rejection of revisionist trends in Marxism, which include Dengism, and the modern People's Republic of China in general. Because most CPC supporters are not Anti-revisionist, and reject Anti-revisionists, Anti-revisionism should not be included here. Wisconcom (talk) 21:35, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Is it not...rather odd to attempt to repurpose the hackneyed insult used against us for a political analysis of revisionism? Clearly, an anti-communist created this draft in the first place...not a principled communist adhering to anti-revisionism. "Tankie" is the modern-day form of "commie." It really is not worth trying to reclaim right now--A p r i l Chat? 22:16, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The way I see it, all tankies are commies, but not all commies are tankies. Commies might just be well-intentioned but misguided or naïve. Tankies are completely batshit insane. --Luigifan18 (talk) 02:53, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Eh. It appears to mean the same thing as "communist" in many cases. If anything.. its meaning varies dramatically based on who's saying it.--A p r i l Chat? 15:04, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

We need to try to vet every single Wisconcom edit
Every single thing they post is suspect and I feel uncomfortable at how we're letting this user edit this page freely. 06:00, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Let's try topic banning him Edward the eight (talk) 06:49, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * IDK he's going to get indef banned, and hopefully we could comb through those edits as soon as that happens. 06:57, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Definition.
Not everyone will be familiar with the term "Tankie". I think it needs to be clearly and - hopefully unambiguously - defined in the opening paragraph.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 16:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, also every term needs a reference that confirms its usage before it sees the light of day. Bongolian (talk) 23:46, 28 December 2022 (UTC)