User talk:Human/Archive28

WWGHA
Quick question for you. Are you the Human who's been a regular on the WWGHA forums? -- 22:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I doubt it, since I don't think I even know what they are. "Human" is taken at most established internet venues long before I get there anyway.  I only use it here because in early '07 I didn't want to use my real name at CP, and then no one knew who the heck "Huw Powell" was on RW1, so I registered as Human on RW2 for simplicity.  I am, or was, Human at CP, RWW, maybe WS, and aSK, I think that's about it.  Oh, and on the RW forums.  22:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers. It's the Why Won't God Heal Amputees site 22:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, nice site. We should link to it more often.  Nice sig, too, by the way.  00:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers. My dad reads the Mail, which scares me, so I'm trying to find some comedy in that atrocity of a newspaper. I'm working on an article to describe WWGHA, so I'll collect together the most interesting links. -- 07:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I added it as an external link at prayer, so that can get changed to a see also when the time comes. Let me know when you knock together the article!  18:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey there. The article is up. Why Won't God Heal Amputees. 20:05, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll make a redirect from WWGHA as well.  20:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers. Appreciate the typo fixes. 20:43, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Enjoy the meal!
Check this youtube video out. I think you'll enjoy it, if you haven't seen it already. 04:40, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * OMG, I was ready to swear off this silly "Rationalism" crap! Until the ending challenge... Hahahahahahahhaha  05:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I love how that Callahan guy's response to the host questioning his legitimacy is "I'm a skeptic, too," that's almost, in my opinion, WikiSynergy-worthy! 22:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow
You caught that pretty fast. 137.104.120.249 22:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That was funny, no doubt, but not necessarily worthy of something other than a "fun" article. 22:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I was tempted to wipe and put it as that, but I felt maybe commented would be better, less disruptive. Oh well, at least I know you're quick to catch it, which is a good sign. 137.104.120.249 22:25, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

hahahahahahaha
I was reading through Opal Honor's talk page when I spotted this gem:

I think Huw has probably been on the BBC News at 10 before - "Welsh extradite Huw Powell has been involved in another attack on six children in his garden using for weapons a lawn mower, hedge trimmers and a 1970s era eight-track player, when a soccer ball landed twenty feet from his lawn. The resulting incident required twelve police cars, eight ambulances, and Alan Titchmarsh before the situation was resolved and the attacker placed under arrest. He has since broken out and is still at large."

Just letting you know. -- 23:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, thanks... 00:28, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice to know my page is gossip worthy...OpalHonors 21:13, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I forgot about that... 15:50, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Second series of Python
Nearly as good as the first... favourite sketch, "The Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things."

Chapman: In the last year, we have put no fewer than twenty-two things on top of other things! However... there is a cloud on the horizon. In the past business year, our Staffordshire branch has failed to put a single thing on top of another thing!

Silly laughter ensued courtesy of me. 15:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, yes... I never regretted dropping over $100 on the box set of all the shows. Well, not after I had a friend "refactor" them to simplify the awful menu/intro crap that the geeks at A&E make you watch before every episode, anyway.  It's also nice to have a copy of All the Words to go with it.  20:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I, too, have the box set. I especially like the "The Man Who..." sketches, like "The Man Who Speaks Only The Middle of Words".   20:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Dawkins on Thom Hartmann
I was just wondering if you happened to catch Thom Hartmann's interview with Richard Dawkins on today's show? I found it quite incitful. Cheers. 03:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fuck piss shit damn, I think I had it on but wasn't really listening. Crapped that I missed it.  Why didncha tell me while it was on, what are you some sort of Ozzy drunk or sumthin'?  Maybe I can check it out on the archives?  03:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would've told you, but I was busy slacking off at work. Oh well, hopefully they'll put it up somewhere, because it was really good.  Especially the parts that had to do with explaining the various theories surrounding evolution. 04:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

email
important one sent. AceMcWicked 04:09, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * unimportant instruction to engage our Philippino lawyer for instructions on how ether is best consumed sent. 04:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ARE YOU PREPARED TO LITIGATE THIS MATTER? -- Your Filipino Lawyer

worried
I was worried for a second, nearly sold all my RW stock. AceMcWicked 04:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Me too, for an hour or so, I was trying to short sell mine while also trying to corner the market in case it made a comeback. 05:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

not email
i haven't sent you an email. feel free to not open it at your own leisure. 03:49, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't check for it yet. I hope that wasn't too soon.  04:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Monty Python (again)
i'm part of the radio society at my university and i did my first show the other day. in preparation for it i downloaded several soundbites, all of which were monty python's flying circus quotes; "now for something completely different," "filth," "he's not the messiah" and all the best ones basically. 13:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I might have farted. 06:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Opcn
Perhaps a promotion to editor is in order, for their cyber-stalking. 06:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Aw, no, that would only be fair! Hey, you fucker, don't you have email enabled? 06:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC)No I don't think that is necessary, although I do agree we should talk behind their back like this. 06:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I was just thinking that sometimes it might be fun to talk to you, but you don't have email enabled so I could ask you in private. So I just asked you in public ;)  My email is on my websites.  06:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's enabled now. I don't know why I never enabled it. Feel free to e-mail me now. 06:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Waiting for you to "confirm"... "it's just a matter of time" Name the film.  06:48, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * COnfirmed now. Oy vay... so many steps, I tell ya.... 06:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You think that's bad... the host of my business website sold themselves. The buyers... totally suck and are incompetent.  Oy vey indeed.  06:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Operation Undercover
Keep it still, but the php is loaded and works. The "cover" html is running as expected. 05:47, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll email you about what my guy is doing with the code. But this is very exciting. 05:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Very good, it looks like it is all coming together. Got a few stragglers and new helpers, but that's all good.  06:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooh, ooh, I can code PHP, can I play? Please? 20:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I can get a good swing with a golf club, can I play? 21:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Great, you're both in! 21:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you familiar with the meaning of the word "security"?--BobNot Jim 21:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Just get everyone doing whatever you're doing to promise they aren't TK. Broccoli 22:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hu check out the private area where I've posted an interesting workaround to the MediaWiki problem. It looks promising.  23:00, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I will. I hope it will work, it would be nice to have full use of that exploit.  23:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cloak = dagger. AceMcWicked 23:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Human, the brute force dictionary exploit WORKS. 23:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've a couple of spare machines which are largely idle whan I'm at work so you could offload the workload onto them. However they do share a 20Mb uncontested broadband pipe. Is the bandwidth the limiting factor or the processing power? 23:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it might ending up being a problem - the dictionary is astonishingly large and is located on another machine so I'm taxing my connection up and down. Let me experiment with getting the dictionary local. 23:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you get my email Hu? I sent it from the hotmail address I set-up for this purpose. AceMcWicked 00:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ace, yes, your suggestion is superb. I'll try to run a beta version of it on some random wiki that no one loves in the next day or two.  01:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Naga
You wants a nice jar of my naga chutney? Very well. Email me your snail mail address and it shall be done, although with the current strikes it will probably be rotten by the time it reaches you. 20:51, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. I have sent you a terribly unimportant email...  21:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * WTF? I will trade homebrew for chutney. 23:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm depressed. Everyone hates me and the wife isn't here. I hate everything. So anyway, you want Naga chutney still? Nutty, fuck the family, you can have some too. God I hate everything. Time to break out out the bubblewrap. Ooh, bubblewrap. Pop. Pop. Mmm. I like stuff now. 00:53, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Send me two and I'll forward one to Nutty, postage probably a better deal that way. Not everyone hates you, Ace likes you.  Ace also likes sheep, but that's another matter entirely.  00:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I can make a noise like a sheep if it helps? I do charge extra though. 01:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Odd Question
Since I've never done it before, how does one use the unsigned by template for talkpage posts the author forgot to sign, or where might one find the help guide on it? 23:47, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, our friendly dicator helped me out. 23:48, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

name or IP or blah, which is just a redirect for my lazy typing. You can also put in the timestamp, it's documented at template:unsigned I think. 23:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. 23:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Prodigal Editor
What on earth has been going on for the last year? Give me a carefully itemised list of the haps. Oh, and, hi! --מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי          שְׁלֹום!
 * We had a 14-year-old cheetah visit and leave. We added eleven articles to the mainspace and fixed 314 typos in what we already had.  Kels and Doc ran off to Bermuda  Susan burned through five or six computers, compelling her to rewrite all the help files so they work best on a cell phone screen.  After Marcus Cicero made a few suggestions, we instituted a new, much stricter set of guidelines that forbid something called "4chan internet memes" or something, although nothing much changed.  Trent went home for two weeks and the server promptly crashed, leaving us RW-less for the duration.  We descended on BobM's teflonwwiki and used all his monthly bandwidth in about three days.  Nx and Pi keep making the various Web 2.0 custom user interfaces more and more sophisticated and cool.  So, anyway, how have you been, it's nice to see you back - thanks for dropping in to say hi!  21:59, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, so not that different from how it was before. Anyway, I'm at Oxford now, where, as I'm studying History and Politics, I've theoretically got a lot of free time to come and bother you lot (although actually, that's evil deceit propagated by the tutors, as I've spend roughly half of my life reading). So, fun. Is PalMD still around? I've still got to thank him for getting me hooked on the scientific method and causality and stuff, which really helped. But yeah, you're all awesome, and a good antidote to me getting depressed at other people on the internet. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן<font color="#777777"> וִ<font color="#888888">י<font color="#999999">קִ<font color="#aaaaaa">י          שְׁלֹום!
 * Doc pops in once in a while, but I think most of his internet energies are devoted to his blog these days. And of course, he is a busy doctor and young father.  But I see edits by him at least once a month, it seems.  23:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll go pester him there. Also, when did Conservative abandon his opus magnum of a user page? Sure, it's pretty bad now, but it's nothing like it was. --<font color="#111111">מְ<font color="#222222">תֻ<font color="#333333">רְ<font color="#444444">גְּ<font color="#555555">מָ<font color="#666666">ן<font color="#777777"> וִ<font color="#888888">י<font color="#999999">קִ<font color="#aaaaaa">י          שְׁלֹום!
 * Doc's now here. 23:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * We have rather more bureaucrats. 23:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that was the ugly result of the Human vs. RA wars. I guess I forgot to mention them.  Sysopping went from "mostly harmless" to "has been here 36 hours".  And 'cratting got sloppy, too.  We'll probably never manage to reverse that silliness.  01:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Spliting Pibot up
Okay, you have been asking for this. Could you bot flag and also place in Irrational numbers User:Catbot and User:WIGObot, please? 03:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. 'Tis done. 03:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 03:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Bases and balls
I forgot to ask, what is your team? I knew you were rooting against the Yanks, but that doesn't narrow it down much. 04:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, no it doesn't, does it. I also had to learn the players on the Phil team over a few games (although Utley and Lee were easy to pick out).  I live in NH, so I guess I pretend to loves me some Red Socks.  Really, when I watch good sports, when I don't know the teams, my allegiance switches endlessly to whoever is behind ;).  But it was fun watching so many Yankees I remember from 2004 still doing what they do.  And I'm happy for your rooting for your team, and hell, after all these years and all that cash, surely Yankees deserve to buy one again.  My favorite Yankee? Jeter, for his smirk.  Yankees, I'd swear, have to turn up to spring training in suits.  No personality allowed.  But Jeter's smirk - and I mean that in the best way - says "Hey, I may be in pinstripes, but I'm a worker".  Or something like that.  Anyway, congrats to your team for winning, I had hope to see it go seven, but I did expect the slightly tighter (and better bullpenned) Yanks to win in the end. "World" champions?  Why do they always embarrass our sport before the world that way?  05:04, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * PS, do you mind if I archive that SB thread to save space? 05:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, archive away.
 * They call it "world" series because it includes the US and one team from Canada, which is more than any other US sport does. I agree, Jeter is my favorite Yankee, with Posada a close second. I can't stand A-Rod, he gets paid way too much for doing nothing. I live in NJ, which is mostly Yank territory, although we have a bunch of Mets fans mixed in. I was actually a bit surprised at the result, based on how Philly did last year I expected it would be a much closer series than it was. 05:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * A-rod pissed me off 5 years ago when he slapped the ball out of some Sox pitcher's glove. I think he's overrated.  I think most of the Yankees are amazing players, and they were overdeserved for winning this one (although I would have liked it go seven!)  That starter tonight, bunch of t's and l's, great pitcher.  Their closer, amazing - why isn't he ever in consideration for starter?  End of story, yes, the big brains expected it to go seven, but the Yankees had a tighter team, the Phillies were always a bit loose - bot never so loose as to be "a bunch of idiots." I'll archive the SB part of this convo, if you want to continue to chat rounders here, feel free.  05:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Religious Right
Because it is a social movement, it is often capitalized, much like the Civil Rights Movement. That's why I had capitalized both words back in the day, and I think it should probably be capitalized. Of course, one could argue there are, in fact, many different movements called "the Religious Right," but the seeming unity is enough, I believe, to capitalize it. Researcher 16:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm... I guess you're probably right... wikipedia can't make up their mind on it! 19:14, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

*drops by*
I see no dollhouse. --SBCSoAHF 05:43, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not even here? 06:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I like . That's a nifty... shroud...thing. Mei II 06:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad you like! What "shroud"?  You mean her dress?  20:23, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Never got the hang of dresses. --Mei II 21:04, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, that explains it. 20:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Gödel, Escher, Bach
I had to dig out my copy to check the spelling: It was one of the books that was flooded in 2007 and all the pages were stuck together. I've not repaired it fully and all the pages are now loose. It's an excellent book when you can manage to go through the lot. Might re-buy it. 01:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I ought to read that. I recently read Melanie Mithcell's Complexity, A Guided Tour, in which she references Gödel, Escher, Bach a billionity times, and I've always wonder what it was like.  Sterile 04:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * A couple girlfriends back, she said, all her boyfriends owned a copy. For what's that's worth.  Awesome book.  05:20, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The Mind's I is another great one that goes well with An EGB. 20:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, Metamagical Themas, a collection of Hofstader's columns from SA. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 21:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Minn. Matters
Here's the show. I'm not sure where to listen for your Andy clone. Are you sure he sounded like a Muppet gargling diarrhea? 01:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I heard it. The one where one host comments "how much of that was nonsense?" That was "Stan" from somewhere in MN. I think Andy likes using his own name for its cache if nothing else. 01:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Here is roughly where it is in the mp3. He sounds like Andy - I loved the, "oh, I'll wait until after the break" part.  No you won't! Not sure what he actually had to say though.  02:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * He really did sound like a weasel choking on his own razor blade vomit. He also sounded incredibly confused about why he was calling.  04:58, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why are you guys listening to Minnesota Matters, anyway? If anything, I'd think only ListenerX or myself would care about that show. 20:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Partly because it's between Hartmann (and another show?) and Reagan/Malloy, partly because it's a fun show. I think Nutty just went to find the archive for me after I mentioned the sound-alike somewhere. 20:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I used to listen to Phoenix/Arizona real estate shows before KPHX dropped Mikey. Now I pretend I live in Bloomington (I think) in order to get KTNFs stream.  20:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. Makes sense. Do you listen by Itunes or Satelite radio? Just curious...  20:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The "listen live" stream via RealPlayer. 20:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you happen to catch either advertisements for or the actual weekend show "The Big Brain Radio Show" with Dr. Davis Stussy, some quack promoting the woo-iest parts of chiropractic while telling his listeners it's actual science? 20:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure do... there's a couple others, too, aren't there? Also, all the woo-ey product ads... I don't hear the show though, because Sat I listen to WGBH at least to the start of teh Blues show, and Sunday it's WUNH until the Rev Gaddy on WWRL followed by the world's worst talk show host, Michio Kaku, capped off with Mad Men on TV...  21:08, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah the woo-ey products. Not an hour goes by on AM950where I don't here a commercial for Betaprostate or for Purity Products.  That reminds me, I was going to do an article here on Purity Products, since they make all kinds of homeopathetic remedies.  21:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That's kinda why I started the todo list - I wanted a place to paste in quick things I heard of or thought about but wasn't ready or able to write about. A central repository of shite to write about. 23:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

HI!
HI!

Alright mate? 23:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Josh :) 00:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Support your local Mei
Good evening citizen. You have been selected for showing interest in your local Mei. Were you aware that you can show your support for the troops the Mei by sporting this userbox on your userpage? It's very pretty. This Christmas Mei will go hungry. Please help feed a hungry Mei today. ''' Play, run, feed and feel good about yourself. tm''' This message brought to you by Mei. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  00:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I just noticed...
I left this thread ages ago but I just found it...

My shipping department is where bubble wrap comes to die. Or be re-used. Aw, I love you both, Crundy, for your crundiness, and Josh, for your superness.

And I love you for your humanity, Human. 00:20, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Tanks fr fixng m tpos
The batries on m fcking wirles kybard re rnnig o –SuspectedReplicantretire me 06:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * As long as at least 2/3 of the letters are there and the content makes sense, I can fix. Ur welcome. It's my job hear. ;)  06:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Caps
I decapped Purge to start with. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  05:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. I don't care who was naughty first, it's fun wheel warring.  And Purge was probably mistitled, back in the day we hadn't made up our minds yet.  PS, have some boysenberry jellyfish.   05:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying don't bite off the head of a Listener for changing things that are older than him. It's a wiki, anything can be put back as it was. And it was Mei's fault anyway. Also the fruit n' fish combination I now find dark and frightening. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  05:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC) The capitalization in the present titles is incorrect. One does not use sentence case for proper nouns. The previous capitalization is necessary. (And, as Mei says, I was merely restoring a state of affairs that existed prior to my joining the Wiki.) 05:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

There was no width parameter
There is no width parameter and there will be no width parameter. It was done via your monobook.css -- Nx  / talk 04:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "And there will be no..." Wow. Your fanatical authoritarianism is freaking me out.  04:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You edited my user space without permission to mess with how I see the site? That is NOT COOL.  You need to SLOW THE FUCK DOWN and see if other people want the changes you are implementing sitewide.  I suggest bringing it up on the saloon bar.  04:38, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You wanted it to be maximized at 800 pixels no? -- Nx  / talk 04:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but not just "for me", but for "anyone". Also, that was a very clumsy way of communicating, since I didn't know why what I was was looking at looked the way it did. I think you should simply implement a "max width" parameter so it can be tailored to individual templates. Also, I don't see any value in what you are doing, every new message box type template will require editing template:messagebox to include its specific parameters.  One stop shopping is better than having to edit several files, I think. Anyway, so far, this is your one-man mission, no one else has "asked" for this extra level of complexity to our templates. And you haven't asked anyone else if it seems like a good idea.  04:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No you don't, you edit the common.css to add an extra class. That way you don't jam the server with a huge job queue. 04:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Why this is a good idea:
 * From a technical viewpoint:
 * In the past, when you wanted to create something you found something similar and copied it, changed it a bit and called it a day. You then had lots of copies of the same code with slight changes and then I have to fix the fucking things when someone fucks up and the fuckup proliferates because of this copying. Example: The right side navigation templates (that's the next one-man project btw), userboxes after the MW upgrade.
 * From a stylistic viewpoint:
 * We don't look like a geocities site.

Why it's a one-man crusade:
 * Because no-one cares.

Why no-one asked me to do this:
 * Because no-one cares. Or worse, thinks that what we have now is perfect and should stay. -- Nx  / talk 05:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Human, I think the important thing to remember is we are about to have a major shift in the appearance and functionality of MediaWiki. Things like the CSS are going to effect the on screen appearance a lot more than old html code. Have you been trying Wikipedia beta? 05:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't like this wiki any more. People think they can not only change things without ANY discussion aforehand, they also feel comfortable EDITING MY USER SPACE TO FUCK WITH HOW THE WIKI LOOKS.  You guys can fuck off, kindly.  Nx is an asshole who does not know how to work with a community.  He is an authoritarian bastard "I've been thinking about this a lot and I honestly think this is the best solution, even if it's not perfect." - Nx.  05:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Jesus, calm the fuck down. Nx, don't change anything just yet. Human, you are explictly barred from stringing two capital letters together for the next two days. No swearing, either of you. Now, let's sit down and discuss the like adults. -- 05:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Five bucks says this continues over at RWW. 05:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * One of the wonders of TCP/IP is how it enables normally rational people to argue so venomously over such petty things. 06:46, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * When engaging in petty arguments, I try to keep them on an objective basis (e.g., disputes about what constitutes good grammar; see above). This is good because it keeps the arguments as short as possible. 16:23, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe everyone should stop being such worthless pussies? You should all pull your shit together before you get made sheriff of Whhhhaaaaaaaa Town. AceMcWicked 06:29, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

the important thing to remember is we are about to have a major shift in the appearance and functionality of MediaWiki.
So why aren't we discussing it in the saloon bar? You guys make it sound like we have to remake our site before next week or the internet will no longer include us, or something. WTF? Also, "major shift in the appearance" etc.? So, why aren't we talking about it on the wiki? 06:50, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Don't leave yet...
I know it is not really my place to interfere, but see here. And please do come back, it won't be the same without you. 13:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He's coming back. And if he doesn't, I'll jump the Atlantic, ram one of his speakers up his arse and play I Fought the Law through it until he does. 13:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a feeling in my bones he'll be back again someday. Don't worry. 19:51, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Stop being such a fucking wet end baby
Come on dude, you aint no petulant baby with a giant red and white lolly that you dropped in the sand and now its covered in ants. AceMcWicked 06:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Those were ants? I thought they were hundreds and thousands!  Damn they were tasty.  06:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Look now, I am seeing shit all over the show at the moment - its been a long weekend, however what I see most of is Human being Mayor Of Whaaaaambulance town. Wheres that shit-eating grin of yours that I have come to know and love tolerate? AceMcWicked 06:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Aw, damn, I log back in and I disappoint my hero, Ace. Seriously, hahahahaha I think my points are well-made.  Maybe you don't care as much, but when people autocratically remake the wiki, ignore questions along the way, and then finally post in the saloon bar that "you can't edit this", I wonder what we have become - or, I also wonder the mindset of some of the people doing this as regards our "mission".  PS, now I must go refill my drink ;)  06:54, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah but nonetheless, your points not withstanding, is it not better to assume good faith on the part of Nx? We know that he has our best interests at heart and I may have only just jumped in here and have bled all over the carpet but we are shifting RW around a bit and Nx is a fine and worthy (albiet perhaps not as outlandish as our fine selves) editor here. AceMcWicked 07:03, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I didn't "leave" in protest, I walked away in embarrassment. I hope you folks will let me re-join. 04:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Here's some Malloy for ya!
A video he made with the website Bushflash about 4 years ago that I think you'll enjoy. Cheers! 05:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that was cool. 01:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I figured you'd enjoy that. It's Malloy at his best and least crazy. 03:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, it is. Although I like my Mike at his most crazy, I've got Thom Hartman to talk to right wingers for me... Anyway, thanks again.  04:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Ceiling cat is back
Yup, just thought I'd mention it in case you'd missed the news. Hooray! -- 17:44, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome and thank you for the good news! "Goodnews" - "Gospel" ;)  08:48, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Please to
... write an article about this product. 21:12, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * [[image:Wtf.gif]] 21:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's fucking insane. I hate audio woo, and audio stupidity.  I'm just back from a lovely Thanksgiving dinner with my neighbors (no football, no "prayers before food", just good people and good food. I'll keep it on my hot "to do list", thanks!  08:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Quantum! loverly. 08:55, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Seriously, it's funny sitting around a ceremonial meal that was worked on for hours, and no one even says the word "grace". People make some toasts and we eat.  It's an intersting corner of the world I live in, and I am very glad of it.  08:58, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Comic Strip Present
Did you ever see the Bad News Tours? Fucking classic. AceMcWicked 09:23, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

AceMcWicked 09:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Classic! BTW, not sure if you saw the link I added for you. 15:46, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ace, yeah, that's one of the dozen or so I have on homemade VHS. Crundy, that's awesome!  Now I'll to see if they make an NTSC version of it (or buy a PAL dvd player?). Thanks much, guys!  20:24, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Most DVD players will play both. It's whether your TV supports both. 22:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * US TVs are all NTSC, as far as I know. Also, I'd need a region-free (or all regions) player.  Or I'd need a way to "double hack" the dvds - strip the region code, then convert PAL to NTSC (which from what I found on line is rather complex).  Whereas there are machines like this which would solve the whole problem.  23:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

This Is Radio Clash
It's now my Callertune for my phone. Not that I mind, though. But I would've preferred "Train In Vain". 06:21, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed mine the other day to the chorus of Rise by PiL. I can't wait til December, seeing them LIVE! 04:21, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ole Johnny Rottenteeth I admire for building a career out of McLaren's defecatory orifice.  04:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Doh
It was New Year's Day, and of course I sucked at the vocals. But I pwned the rhythm guitar, so everyone was happy. 09:50, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

email.
check. AceMcWicked 04:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Got. Operation Stimublast Pancreas is in effect! 04:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I enjoyed operation Stimu-Crank myself. AceMcWicked 04:36, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

http://a1.vox.com/6a00c2251daa4a604a00c22520a0f1604a-mp3|autostart=maybe
 * Well, yes, of course you did. How about Operation Deep Organ Transplant? 04:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't forget Operation Deep Throat comes first. 17:41, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Chutney (again)
Hmm, I think the wife is thinking of giving away some of the chutney to family. I'll see what happens and drop you some in the post after a stock check. I don't want to post some and then she says "Where are the jars of chutney?" Me: "Erm..." 16:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update! 20:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

WIGO
I think that's a first: Human adding a new WIGO? 02:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure if it's the first, but did you like it, darling? 02:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup! 02:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

That edit you just reverted
What was wrong with it? It seemed ok to me. 04:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Which edit? I reverted 84 edits in the last few minutes, which one concerns you?  04:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * This. (84? really?) 04:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the diff. Yeah, it may have only been 67.  That edit sucked, in that it depended on redirects.  Feel free to revert, while also skipping the redirect?  04:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You know, you can fix things rather than just revert. 04:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Dang, are you sure? At the speed this pig is loading these days, it ain't worth the ten minute wait to fix someone else's sloppiness.  05:02, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought it was just me having loading trouble. 09:15, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Did it start yesterday? -- Nx  / talk 09:30, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It did, though it seems to be ok now. I had edits never completing on my screen but working on RW. &mdash; Unsigned, by: toast / talk / contribs 09:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Flaming turd
I set a turd on fire and threw it into your email. It should be burning your account down as you read this. 23:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I pulled the pin and threw it back. Duck!  01:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Faartz!!!
Since you said let the farting begin, it has now begun. Enjoy. Jfaartz 04:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That did not smell nearly as bad as Josh's farts. What have you been eating?  04:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for destroying that troll magnet ZOG article. 01:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, it's not like it had coherent content or anything... 02:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

You iz on teh mapp. Is that new? I hadn't noticed it before. 04:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Jesus Christ, man! Where do you live? Is there even electricity out that far in the bush? TheoryOfPractice 04:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks great though dunnit? 04:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you like that sort of thing. I'm more of an urban creature, myself. TheoryOfPractice 04:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Some other map site has a more recent piccy showing the latest in filling in the field. We get electrocity on alternate weekends and days with "r" in them.  I live an hour from Boston, but luckily I am surrounded by verdant oxygen poopers. I'm also just off a main highway.  Some people around here live five miles down dirt roads.  Go figure.  04:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you look closely, you'll see faint line running roughly west from the compound, through the swamp. It's the drainage channel that was probably cut 150 years ago, probably to either allow haying or sheep grazing.  Yes, we had sheep here, too. Main road name in Lee?  Mast Road.  04:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Why can't I street view you house? Damn. Aceof Spades 04:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Because lazy google has not yet stalked my street. You can get close from the 125 highway thing, at least, you can see my car and roof.  There are at least two piccies of such on this wiki somewhere already.  If you want fresh pic I take now and upload?  04:44, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Na, I'll just turn up uninvited instead. Aceof Spades 04:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That works fine, since you are invited anytime. 04:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

What's that thing that looks like a racetrack? TheoryOfPractice 04:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC)A racetrack. The guy who made the fishpond across the street fell of a roof and broke both hips a year or two ago and hung himself, by the way.  04:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * here be Ace's lair. Aceof Spades 04:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Two things I observe: you do not yet have the magical fee of cable television, and google apparently records streetview in mirror imag ein the antipodes, because those cars are clearly on the wrong side of the street. PS, where are the sheep?  04:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Firstly cable is via satelitte (which I don't have - I dont watch much TV) secondly yes we drive funny and finally the sheep are in my oven now for dinner. Aceof Spades 05:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)


 * (EC in the most hilarious form) Did you at least fuck the sheep first? An old girlfriend of mine claimed it would make a nice steak sauce...  05:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Gods! A (expat) Welshman & a New zealander: Sheepshaggers' convention or what? 05:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you have a few tips for me? Aceof Spades 05:16, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think she thinks you or I have a tip or two for them... 05:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Dissed by Motorola/Verizon?
Saw this teevee commercial today, which said (and I quote), "Does your phone do searches for 'Human' on the web...(or search) your contacts for any friends named Human--which would be weird if you had one..." --WJThomas 02:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, that is hard indeed. I should sue!  Wait, you mean I am your friend?  Aw, that's so nice :)  03:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I took it as a warning not to be your friend. Not that I believe everything I see on the tube...--WJThomas 13:07, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

You'll not catch up with me though
Happy birthday, you young reprobate. 08:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hehe, thanks, guys'n'gals! 20:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday young un. As Toast says, there are some things you cant catch up.--BobNot Jim 22:33, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday you old sod. Not too old for fart jokes, eh? 22:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

-- Because I knows you likes the Fabs. 06:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

email
Check it. Role call has been called. -- 02:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Birthday
Have a happy one, ya older crankier. 07:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And a happy birthday from me too... Pietrow (talk) 11:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

MC deletion logs
Here you go. 22:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Cool, thanks. Can you add it to template:MC in an appropriate way?  22:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll get on it later (after band practice). 22:11, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, band practice. I remember those.  BTW, Happy Birfday, Mr. Powell!   22:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Fanks, AN! And Goonie, looks like you have some serious weather looming!  22:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Looks like someone has beat me to it. Oh well, now I can do someting more constructive. 22:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I just ate some Taco Hell.....
...And I'm using my farting bot to take it out on you. Enjoy the smell from Taco Hell. It will make you run for the border. Jfaartz (talk) 00:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Testing some ideas
Well, that was messy... 01:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Human rights day
So apparently we're having a holiday to celebrate your natural rights? Wow, that sounded much better in my head. 22:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think Human needs any more rights. He's already a crat.--BobNot Jim 22:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's a day of highlighting the situations in which Human has been right? Pah, we don't need a day - just 3 minutes will do the job, and 2 of those minutes would be me singing the hedgehog song as a kind of intro. -- 22:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe... 00:32, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's the day when he rights some wrong?--BobNot Jim 14:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Deletion and Revert
May I inquire as to why you deleted Economics, when it was clearly a work in progress going from an unnecessary list to an actual article? Also, your revert on J. Edgar Hoover changes a stub to a sub-stub with no purpose whatsoever.

You may think that Economics sucks, but Hazillow and I had started rewriting it about seven hours ago. Ugh.
 * I didn't, apparently, "delete" Economics. I just suggested that it should be deleted.  Why?  Because it was lame and showed no tendency to be "on mission".  Your other link tells me nothing - it's just a link to an article. Please use to learn diff links on wikis?  07:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, looks like I did. I looked in the wrong places to find out what I did.  23:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just looked at your edit to JEHoover again. It was embarrassingly lame and stupid.  That's why I rolled it back.  07:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

unimportant email
it totally lacks importance, but it's there. open at leisure. 09:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Nice work!
-- Nx  / talk 10:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, he, or someone like him, seems to think I deleted an article. Not sure why.  20:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe because you did? -- Nx  / talk 22:13, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That would show up in my contribs, right? No sign of anything there.  22:33, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

-- Nx  / talk 22:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 07:43, 10 December 2009 Human (Talk | contribs) deleted "Economics" ‎ (article is incoherent and off mission)
 * 08:21, 10 December 2009 Human (Talk | contribs) deleted "Economics" ‎ (Still mostly garbage. Want to make it good? Lead the article with "why" it's on-mission)
 * I like how you said that like the wasn't going to find it. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 22:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Obviously deletions don't show in contribs, I should have checked the logs... what's weird is I'm not seeing it in the article history, either. 22:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Deletions show up in the logs, not the page histories. 23:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

? 22:59, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you just going to let Ace run wild?
Seriously. Blocking me is the worst thing ye could do. 86.40.210.138 (talk) 12:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Buy waffles, tasty waffles! 12:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Join the free Marcus Cicero campaign! Broccoli (talk) 20:40, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Marcus is a self-admitted troll who boasted about undermining the community. Anyone who supports him is supporting trollery and really should re-evaluate what they're doing here. Fuck him, fuck you and fuck them. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 20:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's no surprise that an administrator in that mental state would overstep the boundaries of good intentions into outright abuse. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 20:48, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Fuck you. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 20:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Who? 20:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I was referring to TOP's fragile mental state in that post. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 20:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not the "who" I meant. 20:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC) I completely agree with TheoryOfPractice here. MC has had far too many chances here, and it's high time we weed him out once and for all.  20:52, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Let him do whatever he wants. He stays binned.  It doesn't matter if he appeals to Human in the most divisive and trolling way possible ("let" Ace "run wild"), either.  Binned.--<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore fiat justitia 20:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Um. Surely you know why all the regulars are walking away, right...?
It's because this site now prefers trolls to regular users. It's just not fun anymore, when you have to see the same trolling shit day in and day out. And since you're one of the chief advocates for trolling, it is in no small measure your fault, but you also have it in your power to fix the problem. I don't even know why you bothered to ask since you don't seem to be prepared to actually contemplate any change. -- 07:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's hard core. "you also have it in your power to fix the problem" How so?   Really, how so?  Stop being an asshole when I'm in my cups?  Or block MC?  As if that would fix anything.  Then we'd need checkuser to block sockpuppets. Want to chime in on that crap debate page I made?  07:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's what I thought. It was a nice wiki we had here once. Not any more I guess. -- 07:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What did you say? I'm now confused.  07:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * He's blaming you. Totnesmartin (talk) 09:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry but no. Human is dead right on this. There has been far more trolling from the "MC must die" crowd than MC himself. The number of insulting and deliberately inflammatory comments has been astonishing for a group of people who should know better. Whatever one's position on MC, community members deserve better than that. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 10:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The site is now a social grouping first and isn't:
 * Analyzing and refuting pseudoscience and the anti-science movement.
 * Analyzing and refuting crank ideas.
 * Explorations of authoritarianism and fundamentalism
 * I've nothing against social sites but .... 10:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually I think the current debate is as good an exploration of authoritarianism as you could ever hope to find... –SuspectedReplicantretire me 11:11, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I was most interested in seeing what policy would shake out from this, but what's happened has been just as enlightening and sort of a microcosm of how things work outside of a scientific arena. Get frustrated, leave and let poor logic prevail. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 14:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The plastic tips at the ends of shoelaces are called aglets. 14:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ve MUST NOT TOLERATE TROLLS OR TROLLS ENABLORS! ve MUST DESTROY THEM! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
 * I like the Wizard of Oz. 14:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm tending to agree with Jeeves, and Toast, and Kels. I log into RW, and I don't really see anything I wish to do here at this point. I don't find constant block wars all that interesting (there's a difference between a love block and what's going on) and it's becoming rather high school-ish. Just not all that interesting really. Sterile 15:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * So perhaps there is a solution: ignore the trolls and the anti-troll trolls and just get on with writing the wiki. 15:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well duh. The problem is, however, that there is no wiki to write. You harp on about rationalwiki being a project but you've only been here a few months. You really don't understand that what gets most RWians up in the morning is their bigotry; RW is a conduit through which that bigotry passes, no more, no less. The reason they are all so pissed at me is that I reflect that fact in a very literal way.
 * That's the solution I was hoping for, but apparently it's impractical. People here can't ignore trolls. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 15:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC)That only works if everyone is on board with it. But as we've seen, over and over and tediously over again, from TK forward, is that isn't working.  I rarely responded at all to him, and a number of others didn't either, but a lot of people just couldn't help themselves.  You can't have any expectation on this wiki that enough people will honour DNFTT for it to prevent Recent Changes and a lot of popular pages being filled up with drama. --Kels (talk) 15:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If people can't ignore trolls, that's their problem. What really pisses me off about the current situation is that it's by and large the people who can't ignore trolls than then turn on their fellow RW-ians and start swearing at them. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 15:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The fact of the matter is that if there were more interesting things to do on RW, the MC drama would take a back seat. What people are really annoyed by is the fact that you've all run out of ideas. Face it; the principle of writing a wiki (Which by your own admission is not intended as being serious) doesn't motivate anyone; the social group thing works for a while, but people on the internet grow tired of other anonymous peoples company; and therefore, a pariah figure is necessary both as an excuse to complain and threaten reprisals, but also as an excuse to leave if your dis-satisfied with the remainder of the wiki. Just bear in mind that all the recent histrionics were not started by me, but by yourselves. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of sociology will understand that this really is a case of 'making your own bed'.
 * You ever say to someone - "let's go get a parfait?", and they say "hell no, I don't like no damn parfaits." 15:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No. Because someone who don't like no damn parfaits is not someone I'd want to associate with. --Kels (talk) 15:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Cake! Everybody loves cake! 15:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You know, as much as I hate to agree with MC's BON here, he's right. The current HCM was a long time coming, in my opinion. He was just the match to the gasoline. I maintain that the best solution to what happened is for people to go back to doing what we do best; writing SPOV articles, hanging out and talking about nonsense in the saloon bar, block warring only when it's funny, debating topics relevant to this site (like science, pseudoscience, etc.) In fact, once my internet at home is functioning again), that is exactly what I intend to do. Screw those who think this site is a lost cause, I've always considered this site to be a hobby for when I'm bored, and dammit now I've contributed too much here to just walk away. 15:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * We can stay up late, swapping manly stories, and in the morning, I'M MAKING WAFFLES. Anyway, on a serious note, as someone who's been here for awhile... This is nothing new.  About once a year or so, people get tired with the status quo and some big name annoyance causing trouble (TK,MC,CUR, You name it) and there's a sudden rush of people taking off for parts unknown.  I personally don't think it's that big of an idea and not nearly as dire as some would make out.  15:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but you know, I created Climategate and A Dozen ID-Inspired Predictions and there's no interest in editing them. I have no problem with "social" aspects of the site, and, while I don't find CP all that interesting any more, I have no problem with people's interest in it. But if that and endless chatter about templates and trolls are all there are here, I'm bored. Sterile 16:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I have no expert knowledge on anything but opinions and interest in (almost) everything so I can't really add to any of the "hard" articles here. When I find something interesting I'm more likely to read it and go away wiser (?) rather than find myself able to enlarge it. 16:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I find the same, which is why I've tended to restrict myself to cleaning stuff up and finding references. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 16:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * "not nearly as dire as some would make out."
 * Well, there you have it. I'll say no more, which is only right, since my newbitude here is still pretty fresh. Oh, one other thing: assigning blame is just as subject to the threefold law of return as any other activity. Be well, you all, Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 16:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

New age healing method
Smell my faartz, and all that is wrong with your body will go away. It will also clip your toenails for you! Jfaartz (talk) 20:33, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Competition.
Expensive speakers TheoryOfPractice (talk) 01:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The claim is not even true, Wilson sells $250,000 or so speakers. I'll up the ante!  The HUMAN Model 9901 is $450,000 per pair, whatever it is.  03:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Hyman in the Golden Sands
So what kind of psycho rat bastard would write the word "Hymen" in two foot high letters on the golden imported sands of Oriental Bay on a Sunday evening as the sun sets? What kind of depraved lunatics could get away with flailing round in the surf, abusing the locals and terrifying small children; all the while drinking cheap champagne out of paper cups and smoking endless amounts of cigarettes? "Dear God someone please take these helpless weirdo's to church and lock them in a confessional for 3 days, By Christ!" is what I want to scream at them. Unfortunately all the evidence points unequivocally towards the real culprits. My entire weekend is held on a magnetic tape less than an inch wide and the bastard tells me no fucking lies. But wait, is something missing here? How did we get to the beach? Why we were so powerfully twisted and why the hell did "Hymen" appeal to us so much? All the answers arrived to me when I awoke from a kind of twilight conscious state late Sunday night. I was on the couch, my body racked by powerful DTs and even worse visual distortions. My dictaphone was lying by my side and I felt logical enough to understand its contents. At least I thought I was. Hours of gibberish. Much talk of pirates, birthday and a strange technique called "The Mastodon Formation", Black Sabbath, baying at the moon, dogs barking, loud dance music, people yelling "Slut" at strangers and my own personal commentary recorded whilst in the bathroom taking a piss. It was all madness but it did have a logical order. It appeared on Friday night I drunk a lot and went to town. I remember the Matterhorn and drinking whisky neat for a couple hours before being harassed by a jittery security guard after I fell down in a link-way somewhere, hovering above the street between a parking building and the footpath, and refused to stand up. When I woke up on Saturday morning I was bruised and someone had tied me to the couch. It was very odd but not altogether unexpected. The real weekend gig was on the Saturday night and I was ready. I didn't know what to expect, there were many variables involved and it could have gone sour at any moment but I wanted to be there to wish my good friend a very happy birthday, get as drunk as I possibly could, jump behind the decks and spin some records. Everything went without a hitch, a night of madness like no other. Thank Christ, I was prepared for trouble but I wanted to avoid it like a leper on heat. I found the best option was to hibernate behind the decks with a dozen beer, a pack of smokes and some hard Swedish techno. And boy was that a good option, I sat behind those bastards for 2 hours and played a set that even Jeff Mills himself would be proud of.

My tape goes a bit funny here, it seems I was wandering around telling people how good it was to finally meet them in person and could I ask them where they gained their influences? "In what way did the trip to India influence their latest work?" "Do you have any empirical evidence that the fairy queen is prettier than I am?" "Who wants to come and be a fascist with me?" "Everyone scream like a pirate!" Painful gibberish flows from the dictaphone into my ear and I sway as I try to get up off the couch, just press play....... Sunday morning, wake, dress, spend an hour on the phone trying to relegate the troops and get down to some more action. Head back to the party to find people up and about eating birthday cake. I take a large slice and pour myself a whisky in a tumbler with a dark beer on the side while I decline the offer of eggs on toast. I sit on the couch next to a trusted ally and get down to discussing the poo castle and how it relates to the "The Mastodon Formation". When the rest of my group arrive we pile in cars and head down to the waterfront to check out "The Auto Salon" show. A man in a car next to us screams into my dictaphone as we stop next to him. I roll down the window and reach out with it as far as I can and he says, "Its Monday tomorrow and I'm not very happy about it!" he yells before winding his window up. Before I can even contemplate a response we are moving again. Park the car and head towards the show. By this stage I was really feeling loose in the head and it had begun to get worse. My associate and I keep fumbling and blabbering at strangers. Powerfully out of my head and getting more and more so as time went on. "We need drinks, we must have booze!" I mutter while recoiling at the sound of my own grating voice. "I know, we'll get some soon and head to the beach, check out the water" he replies as a strange glint lights up his eyes which goes a long way toward explaining the state of mental trouble he was having at the time. Lips pursed and voice hissing. The car show was a complete waste of time. The cars were not really that nice and the stench of boy racers was making my head swim. So much so that I stumbled into the back of a girl then suddenly veered right and into a body builder whose forearms were thicker than my neck. Or were they? My vision was fucking up and I couldn't tell my own body from the surroundings. After the car show it was time to check out "Armageddon". The comic book and Star Trek show. I was very interested to see what these dateless wonders had to say and to get a quote from the special guest from Star Trek. Unfortunately I didn't have the right credentials to get in for free and the cover charge would have left us no drinking money so we decided to split from our group and head to the beach to get liquored. We were really gone by this point and as we passed the bustop we ran into friend who’s speech was so impeded he had to say everything twice. And well why not? We decided he should join us as we went to the beach to spread the word.............. Stumble into my bedroom and fall on the bed, the tape has nearly run out now but as I fall unconscious again I hear the sounds of a scuffle from the tape, a dog starts barking, people are yelling and a voice in the background is screaming...... "I AM THE PRESS!! GET YOUR DAMN HANDS OFF ME!!!!! I AM THE PRESS"

Aceof Spades 08:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Poker
By the way, I leave the poker server running constantly, so if you wanted to schedule a game for the USAians at a reasonable hour then just add it to the scheduled games list and I'll leave the machine alone while you play. I can give you the tournament start code if you want to play a tournament instead of a ring game. 09:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

On Time Cube
In case it wasn't clear enough, I was actually trying to be sarcastic in my edits there. Sorry if it wasn't. Oddvids (talk) 22:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Deleting images
Hey there. I've been cleaning up the images, and someone mentioned that I may have deleted some images you uploaded. Let me know if it's causing problems. The only stuff I'm removing would generally be things of dubious origins that were uploaded in the distant past and not linked to articles. Apologies for any hassle. -- 14:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. I took a quick look at your deletion log and didn't even see anything familiar, let alone problematic.  Thanks again for your concern, though.  22:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

O Holy Nightmare
The Malloy favorite, can be listened to here for your enjoyment/aggravation. Enjoy! 02:27, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Problems with biblical inerrancy
Is there a way to lock just ListenerX from editing this page? I don't want to lock it because because others have been making substantial contributions. Seeing what he has done is just pissing me off. Cgb07305
 * You wish. 05:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

From my conglomerate to yours...


Hehe, awesome, thanks! 22:35, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Something to pass on
I was looking at your conversation with Philip over the sitenotice stuff, and it occurred to me something that got missed somewhere along the way. The letters probably would have been just fine even in the colour green he'd chosen if he'd put an outline around the letters. Even a 1px line would have been fine, since it would make a clearer division between colours. Something to keep in mind. --Kels (talk) 22:33, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Shhhh I'm listening to "a lovely Korean Christian sweetheart with an ever so sweet voice" warble like a demented nightingale in Ken's belfry... 22:37, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, she's finished, and so is Ken. I'm not sure I understand you, do you mean a font that has a contrasting one pixel border outlining each letter or something else?  22:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean like this? Dunno if she's Christian, though. And yes.  Addition of a little contrast helps readability a lot, I find. --Kels (talk) 22:50, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a font wikis/browsers support that would do that, though? Or would he need to create it as an image?  22:54, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I imagine the easiest way to do it would be with an image. Unfortunately, I'm no expert at fonts, so I dunno if there's one that exists already for browsers/wikis.  Maybe you can find some smart monkey to give advice on that side of it. --Kels (talk) 22:57, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I suspect the various lolcat generator sites would make it easy, but I'm not quite sure they'd express the message the way PJR wants. 23:05, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Just immmense gratitude. cheers, Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 07:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What did I do, and you're, er, welcome! 03:55, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

year
-- <font color="#000000"> = w =  06:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, oh useful one. Very nice template, by the way!  08:32, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Your number of edits
Don't forget to tell me when you've hit the big 50,000. Then I can announce to the community that I have proof that you have no life. 05:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm slowly crawling there, not as prolific as I used to be. Still at 496xx or so.  Do blocks count as edits?  If I blocked every sysop that would do it.  But I'm not trying to game it, just watching and wondering what will happen.  PS, editor #188 at Wp only has 30k WP edits.  And the assfly is in a similar range over at CP.  Makes you wonder, doesn't it?  The "kan haz no leif" userbox is sounding more and more appealing every day...  08:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * About a hundred to go... 21:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Europe
You ever notice how people try to sell dubious goods and services by calling them "European"? That's what I was going for. Feel free to add -- I don't think I really did justice to the subject. EVDebs (talk) 01:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess. You know what people put on their cars in Europe to make them cool?  US-spec parts.  It goes both ways.  Perhaps we should write "import woo"?!  I'll see if I can expand on what you writ at Europe.  03:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Great business for the makers of adaptors between incompatible thread standards. I'm thinking of a quintessential middle-class public-school boy with delusions of twitdom who installed a chrome plated steam heated undie dryer in the bathroom of a house planted in the US. It took a stack of adaptors this long, and took him that long to acquire the bits for it. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 14:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the award friendly messenger! My abilities have been recognised. 23:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations
RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor (talk) 05:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Shit man! You beat me by 1 second! Acei9 05:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! This is #49,887...  21:42, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Jesus Christ, Human, Jesus Christ... I remember you announcing number 40'000 a short while after I joined in April. Let us know when you get to 50k! 21:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. At least .0067% of the Internet is of your making. -- 21:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, and I thought I spent too much time here. How the hell do you do it? 21:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He's been here since the beginning. Kinda like the Oracle in the Matrix. 21:49, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, so Human is an all-knowing computer program? Now it makes sense. 21:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I must have missed the Matrix film in which the Oracle knocks back a few cans and goes on a rampage. Now that'd be far better than any of the sequels they released. By the way, how do we see the stats for editing? I never managed to find that bit of RW. -- 21:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * For your own, click on "my preferences". 22:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Congrats! :-D I voted for you. lol. Question: how does one remove the "Merry Christmas" sign from the top of the "recent changes" page? Or is it still supposed to be there? I thought by now that it's a bit dated though.. I need to learn more wiki-stuff. <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 22:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to be there; It's one of the templates that appear on RC when there is a holiday. I'm not entirely sure why it still says Merry Christmas, though. Anyone know? 22:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's for the Orthodox Christmas. 22:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ohhhhh. Duh, I should know that. 22:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk about yer gettin' old stuff - last month I turned fifty, and tonight I'll probably hit 50k edits to this fine-ass wiki...
 * You make that sound so dirty.  04:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Exemption
You have earned an exemption from open hostilities in the RW/MC War of attrition. This isn't because of any real service to reason, but because you have an open mind, intolerant of authoritarianism. More of these exemptions will be issued in the coming days to worthy RW members. MarcusCicero (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ping-pong... 21:04, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * DFTT.. JeffD (talk) 21:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Signature
Hey, I've noticed lately that my signature isn't randomizing like it used to. Now, I just get the same note on every instance of the page when it loads... Did something change in the code that I don't know about? Thanks 21:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it did. To save on server resources, Nx made it so a template only gets parsed once per page load, and our sigs are of course templates.  To beat that, you put a pipe at the end as if there is a parameter coming:




 * And it should work again. 21:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm, or not... I wonder if the help file explains it? 21:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * "Note that if you use random, you will have to change "Signature" in your preferences to include a pipe (|) before the closing brackets, like this: {{User:Yourname/sig|} " Do what I showed above but do it in your prefs.  21:34, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Got it just before I came back to read your response. Thanks again.  21:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Please change it back. Your sig now disables the parser cache on all pages that it appears on, slowing down the load. 21:44, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. You're confusing two things:
 * a) When you call a template without parameters, its results gets cached, so all calls to the same template on a single page will be the same. This is an optimization in MediaWiki. If there are parameters, this optimization is disabled, hence why you need to add the pipe. You need to add the pipe at every level, though it's no longer necessary to use the double template trick, you can just remove SUBST: from the nickname box in your preferences.
 * b) random is cached, which means sigs will only change when you reparse a page.
 * I fixed your sig by adding a pipe in User:SirChuckB/sig -- Nx  / talk 22:14, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, I see the what the problem is... So now all my signatures will be randomized, but the ones I signed before changing it are gonna stay the same. Is that right?  22:20, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Nx: when I reloaded the page, some of the sigs changed, but that was probably just the cache being purged intermittently. 22:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you didn't have the pipe in preferences, then those will be the same because of the optimization.
 * BTW, now you can see why template signatures are bad: editing the signature of a prominent member slows down the wiki significantly. -- Nx  / talk 22:27, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I understand now. I've got it, thanks.  That's also why I try to avoid changing anything about my signature.  22:30, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * EC) I just have several sigs that I can pick at will depending on what I last had with my toast. 22:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

|F|U|X'|s vid
I have posted a link to our vid on my userpage under the "About My Band" section. Enjoy! 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, fun, thanks! Hey, you know how two more video links come up when a vid stops?  I got one for the misfits, and this.  Amusing.  21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's our SuperJosh! 04:22, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Where the fuck is Human?
Your presence is requested here. Fucker. Acei9 04:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Requested? No, required is more like it! 04:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 50,000 edits = short circuit. Needs a new spark plug.  Sterile 04:22, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's right.... Have you reached that number yet? 04:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Dear God no. I'm just a wee bit over 4,000. At this rate, I should be at 50,000 in ... (carry the two) ... 30-ish years.  Sterile 04:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I am hitting 2 years at RW and am just over 5000. Acei9 04:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I go through phases of interest and phases of disinterest. Just my style, I guess.  Sterile 05:09, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's see. I have 1750ish edits, and I arrived about a year and a bit.  That make 1500 edits per year, so I will hit 50k in... 33 years.  Ouch.  -- 05:37, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

MC template
I only used it once my lord ;( . Unless you mean the DFTT pic, which I just like, and as I said MC is pathetic haha, even though I'm a total newbler here. JeffD (talk) 04:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, even the newbs think MC is pathetic. That's great! 04:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm more concerned that the newbs thing Human should be addressed "my lord". Although if you assume that's intentionally sarcastic, it's equally reassuring. 04:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, Human does have around 50,000 edits here. What a fucking loser! 04:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point that man well made. 05:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I approve of this title. --<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore fiat justitia 06:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh geez... 19:59, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You asked for it, haha! 20:02, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Fucked up shit
Sometimes we are all so trivial, arguing about stuff that really doesn't matter, and then the shit hits the fan and real life intrudes. RA's parents are getting divorced, and he come here to look for some support, direction, love, even. Then fucking Goonie's sister gets raped and he has the stones to tell us what he's going through, and, again, look for a little support, direction, etc. It makes little edit wars, article deletions, etc. seem so meaningless when people in our community are dealing with seriously painful shit. I have no idea why I posted this... 01:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I know the feeling. Little bickerings about little matters mean nothing in the face of real life situations.  I am glad that the our little community is tight enough for the most part that we can look to each other for guidance or a willing ear to listen, so to speak.   01:54, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, it gives us a sense of perspective. Our wiki-troubles look patently absurd compared to our real-life ones. But - and maybe this is not the place for this odd brainwave - I wonder if, as future generations become more accustomed to the internet and online communities, internet troubles will seem as real as, well, real ones. 03:24, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * We may argue about bullshit with each other and tempers can flare but there isn't one person here that I wouldn't step up and help in any way I could if they were in a pinch. Acei9 03:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

TK's demotion
Irrational Numbers has rights that are currently only available to crats. 08:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry I thought that was like being a mushroom I will undo immediately thanks 08:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it was just that I wanted about 4 rights more than an autoconfirmed user, one was the crat right to edit the interface. 08:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * (EC)Let's make that page a little more explanatory, as in, what porn the user can access given the rights? Otherwise, all except sysop and crat look like joke groups to most of us?  08:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I made you a present
Hope you like it. --Kels (talk) 19:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)




 * Hehe, that's cute... Did you add it over at Forum:Making Karajou funny?  22:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Cue unholy shitstorm
I don't care that you sysopped TK, but a lot of other people do. You ready for the fallout? 10:46, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * So...where was the discussion where you got consensus for this little stunt? You can imagine, I'm less than thrilled about it. --Kels (talk) 00:44, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What's he going to do besides start a block war here and there and be obnoxious? I doubt he will do any damage. Of course, I said that about MC too... 00:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I was wondering that myself. Acei9 00:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As was I. If TK, why not MC? TheoryOfPractice (talk) 00:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Both de-sysoped for now. Acei9 00:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Good move, Ace. 00:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Just wanting to prevent some kind of bitch session wherein everyone argues with each other. Acei9 00:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ace is my brother from another mother, but I gotta disagree on this one. TK being a sysop here is made of win. He'll never be able to credibly claim we "oversighted" things against our own community standards, as he commonly does. Think this one through. 00:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Its been done Nutty. No matter what he will still lie even if he is a sysop. Acei9 00:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Look, I'm all for respecting other people and treating them as equals, but that doesn't mean I invite every Tom, Dick and Terry into my house and treat him like family. The guy is poison, and we gain nothing but grief by treating him like the good guy he has proven himself not to be. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * And who cares if "He can never credibly claimed..." because he never credibly claimed before and will never credibly claim anything ever again. Acei9 01:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Given this guy's got a history of contacting people directly and making threats outside of CP and RW, as well as personally suffering a good deal of personal insult from him, I'd say he's a damn sight worse than MC. I say give them both the same treatment. --Kels (talk) 01:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I get this. How is making him a sysop or not change his bullying?  He goes berserk with the blocks and he gets promoted.  If he's harassing people in private, perhaps sysoping him with flush him in to the open... 01:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It has been done before with less than pleasent results. TK is a horrible person with not one good feature. Acei9 01:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He probably isn't "mostly harmless." Corry (talk) 01:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

"TK is a horrible person" Well, duh. But we don't have to be in response. I thought most of us here weren't Christians...or don't care enough about religion to buy in all that revenge crap. 01:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you are dead wrong about TK. Acei9 01:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

This was not a wise thing to do, and can bring no good but much mischief. I am glad it is undone.--<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore fiat justitia 01:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how I'm dead wrong about him...I agreed with you!!  01:20, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What I mean is that not sysopping TK doesn't make us horrible people. TK has made a lot of personal trouble for people and having him here is not wise. He is not to be trusted. Acei9 01:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This would be good reading material for anybody wanting a background on TK past the last few WIGOs. Corry (talk) 01:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Ace, my point was that sysoping him might force him in to the open. Obviously the man child is a complete asshole, but short of permabanning him again (from what it appears, would be a total shitshow), what are you going to do to prevent him from trying to make alliances in private? You say sysoping him a a shit idea, but I'm looking at the status quo and thinking it'd be tough to get much worst than this.

Can anyone explain what exactly he did to "bring down" RW 1.0? I've been following this site for a long time now and still have yet to figure it out. Did he go nuts with a baseball bat or something? 02:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There is more information here.--BobIt's cold! 07:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm so bored with your whiny crap. TK hasn't been naughty on here for like a fucking year. Get over yourselves. So you hate him, so do I, who cares? 07:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem is that TK is not "mostly harmless".--BobIt's cold! 18:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you go fuck yourself Huw?
Go start HuwWiki? Acei9 09:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I mean you're a nice guy and all but you can be a pissy little bitch that takes only his own his opinion as read. Acei9 09:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not trying to make enemies or anything, but it appears to me that Huw isn't the one bitching about current events. Am I missing something?   19:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It were my response to Huw sysoping TK over and over again even though the majority were against such an action. Acei9 20:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

TK as a sysop
Please promote him back to a regular user. It is not wise to make him a sysop.--<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore fiat justitia 10:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What difference does it make? Please tell me one "bad edit" (ie not "mostly harmless") he has mad, say, in the last year? 10:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't provide an example. He has been behaving.  But I feel that his past actions, and his current actions on Conservapedia, mean that he shouldn't be a sysop here.  I think most everyone else agrees.  I don't think it's very fair for you to decide that you are right and everyone else is wrong, even if you are very very sure you are right.  Please promote him, rather than deciding that the discussion is done and you are just going to do what you want.--<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore fiat justitia 11:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * How about we include the slap in the face this is to people who have had legitimate problems with him? --Kels (talk) 11:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... are we heading for a rerun of The Great TK Banning Incident. Just by being here and not doing anything wrong has the HCM meter at HCM4 and heading for HCM1. ToP is already sysoppng MC et al. Stay calm people. Bob Soles (talk) 18:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll desysop TK anytime I see him sysopped. Unless there is a decision from the mob. Acei9 19:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Great, and now because of all the BS Human started, I'm getting spam from the wanker. He claims to have sent it around to "various RW sysops and crats", anyone else get anything addressed to me? --Kels (talk) 19:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll check when I get home from work but probably. Acei9 19:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wasn't this exactly how he stirred up the last shitstorm? That was just a bit before my time.  Corry (talk) 19:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * When it all went down last time I was mere lurker so didn't get my hands dirty over the whole thing but I believe it were something similar yes. Acei9 19:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He sent it to me Kels. No clue why. 19:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd much prefer that "controversial" actions, such as the demotion of characters with an unpleasant history be discussed, not arbitrarily done. It doesn't take much of an imagination or sense of empathy to realise that some decisions are best made after there's been a discussion. Referring back to the earlier section "Fucked up shit": we do get too tied up in things that are ultimately trivial in the grand scheme of things, but one aspect of considerate behaviour is to accept that little problems compound matters and risk being the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back. I'm not suggesting that we walk on egg shells everytime one of us is engulfed in tragedy, but we should try to avoid undue hassle for everyone - regardless of personal circumstances. -- 19:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Nothing to me. I feel sorta left out. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 19:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You and I might not get one ToP as we both know TK's MO. Which is why he might contact SuperJosh but some of us older ones. I have stated quite plainly to TK what I think of him. Acei9 19:37, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He sent me the weirdest damn thing. Apparently I haven't made it clear enough how badly I don't want to talk to any idiot at CP, unless it is in front of a crowd so I can humiliate them and their (at best) idiotic beliefs.   19:51, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally, I consider his emails spam, and deserve no more respect than the latest Nigerian scam. So if anyone wants a copy of what I got, I'll send it along, but future emails from him will just go in the bin unread. --Kels (talk) 19:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If he's using our e-mail function to contact people who are known to be minors in any sort of even vaguely threatening/bullying way, suggest immediae application of largely defensive weapon of banhammer. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor (talk) 19:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a public gallery can be created. Corry (talk) 20:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Send it to me Kels, I've made it all to clear how I feel about the idiot. So he's not gonna waste him time trying to recruit me to his side.  21:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I posted it over here for your convenience. --Kels (talk) 21:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

You didn't reply again, Human. Um... pretty please don't just ignore everyone? With sugar on top?--<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore fiat justitia 06:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, he does that every time he's losing.  07:24, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * So if I shut up when the mob calls me wrong, that is yet another flaw? I gave up, I lost. RA, you are a whiny bitch. 03:55, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * @Ace, yeah, that's what I figured - I wasn't round last time so he's trying his way in with RW's resident n00b. 12:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

The telephone
Excuse me, sir. But please expect a telephone call from me around 11:30 EST, 10:30 CDT tonight. Talk to you then. 00:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Catch you then, G. 00:29, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I will also be calling you tonight. You will recognize me by the heavy breathing.. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 00:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll recognise me by the grunting and spurting coming from your closet. Acei9 00:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * All massages received and applied to various orifices, thank you! 02:05, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Jesus Does the Dishes
This song kinda reminds me of you, for some reason. 22:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

ch ch ch changes
-- <font color="#000000"> = w =  20:27, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice, thanks! 01:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any stuttering. Sorry -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  21:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * B-b-b-b-bad to the bone... 21:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * OK I will find a non-Bowie stutterer... -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  22:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  22:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Total mind fuck
Someone has just inserted an oily penis into my ear. Acei9 09:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * At least they brought their own oil... and better than a poily enis! Wait, what does it taste like?  Are there bats nearby?  Wait a minute... why am I wearing waders... and who ate my club sandwich all but the ketchup.... I think we ought to cross the street before things get complicated...  09:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

WS
I didn't realize Wikisynergy was even still there. Good ol' Tom Butler, looking for faces in the fuzz. Sterile 02:56, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup. PS made it editable soon enough that I kept hitting RC every day or two.  Delighted to see the freak back, what a pompous git.  03:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, he never liked it when I asked him about statistics a while back. Oh, well.  I wonder if he looks at cloudz too.  Šţěŗĭļė 03:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I saw my initials in the header and thought it was about me (not really). Carry on.   03:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotta love Tom Butler. Not the first person, of course, to remain in ignorance in the face of absolute proof to the contrapositive. 03:17, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

In answer to your question...
Have you ever asked Andy to unblock you? You were blocked by him for a silly pattern of edits, and you did, several times, insert false or liberal edits to articles, in spite of your constant claims of never doing so. You inserted edits then bragged here about how silly they were. Hardly clean hands, eh? So you get no special treatment, Huw. If you want back, send an email, don't keep publicly proclaiming "Poor me! Why was I blocked! I am innocent of all things!" --TK/MyTalk|undefinedRW User #45 07:05, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Gawd, you're pathological... 03:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * PS, fuck you, you pathetic loser. 06:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

New toy
I have just wasted my afternoon learning about javascript rather than doing my thesis. Have a new toy which would allow people to have their own personal bookmark list down the side, under the community box. I would have to mess about with the common.js and the mediawiki space. The only draw back to this would be people who are not using it might see an empty box titled bookmarks appear before it disappears on the side. The only person being subjected to this at the moment is me. 05:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I wondered what you were doing there. If only there were a way to hide/vanish it if there is no content?  06:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It should hide the box if you don't have a bookmark list, although it is done using javascript which loads after the CSS. 06:07, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, java is ugly on wikis. I got rid of my silly "edit buttons" after adding "bold/bold" 100 times when I thought I was clicking in the edit box, then the bar would load and that's what I actually clicked on. sort of.  I think your idea is good, but maybe the sidebar isn't the best place for it?  Like make it a user page based feature perhaps?   06:10, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I might shove the code I stole off MediaWiki in any way as that is useful if people want to customise any of the boxes down the side. That way if someone feels they are desperately missing something in the toolbox or navigation box they can add it themselves. 06:16, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I like this idea Pi. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  06:19, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * (EC)So it would be in their css file and only appear to them? That sounds like a cool thing, a bookmarks thing might be nice.  Is it a MW page, or a dropdown?  06:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It will be in their javascript and only appear to them. I'll leave an explanation over at the Saloon bar. 06:23, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Then please after add it to the help files and the noobs page? 07:51, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Revenge for welcoming me on WP
The vote for LJ is my vengeance for welcoming me on WP when no one else would. --Irrational Atheist (talk) 20:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Did I go too far?
Hey, I was trying to make a joke about me being an attention whore with the "kill a puppy" thing, but did I go too far?--Mustex (talk) 13:00, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think so - did anyone complain? Only comment I'd make is to keep RWW "business" to a minimum here... so I guess I didn't even notice the dead puppy.  22:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * K, thnx. I started pages for two items on the to do list immediately afterwards to make up for my display of ego.--Mustex (talk) 22:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hehe, cool. The LiveJournal should use that as a minor punishment: "Ye must now make 5 mainspace edits!"  22:46, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Youtube and Haiti
Ok, I know I've been a bit too attention whorish with the youtube thing at times, but I was thinking of making a video where I announce that I'll donate a dollar to Haiti for every subscriber I have at the end of the month, up to $100 (and $.50 after that up to 200). Should I mention this in the saloon bar, or not?--Mustex (talk) 05:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Run with it, dude. Just ask me for production values advice first?  Seriously, I know you mean well, but aim the web cam better, work on your script before reading it, etc.  I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you should learn to polish your approach.  Or maybe you already have?  05:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I know I need to, and plan to practice more for future videos where I pwn a specific creationist, but lately I've been doing alot more videos that are just responses to something.  It's disturbing how many hits those get relative to when I actually make an effort.  I'll probably announce this tomorrow.--Mustex (talk) 05:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

BTW, you said ask you for quality opinions. This time I actually rehearsed five or six times first, and did a second take when the first one didn't really work, and tried to aim the camera a bit more carefully. Does it show? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61L0bt-CROw --Mustex (talk) 21:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Apparently a large portion of people in the Saloon Bar aren't fond of conditional donations.--Mustex (talk) 01:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, what's up with that? Anyway, feedback... much better framing, of course, and the pace and presentation of the words is also far better (although there were weird audio/video sync issues on my "copy").  One minor thing, can you back away from the camera and zoom it to re-fill the frame?  You're so close your face is warped by the short focal length/macro effect.  Unless you really look like that, in which case, sorry, oops.  02:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I think that your post should pascify some of the opposition against me. People really respect you.  As for zooming in more, I'll have to play around with it and see what I can do.--Mustex (talk) 02:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Serious?
Are you really withdrawing from the elections to the Joyless Gurgle or.... something else? –SuspectedReplicant retire me 00:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think he is actually serious about not wanting to be a part of the Limping Jerboa. Nor does he seem interested in Trent's Book of the Month Club. 01:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, look, I appreciate the consideration and people's support and all, but really, I'd be lousy for the job. Think about it, who would have been the Loopy Jupiter's main customer over the last few months?  With me on it, there'd be no work to do ;)  Right now I'm just trying to improve my judgment.  If I can keep my nose clean perhaps the next round of voting will find me feeling more appropriate for consideration.  02:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have to say I'm rather disappointed by that. I voted for you because I admired your stand on the controversial issues that the site encounters. That doesn't necessarily mean I agree with you all the time, but I can appreciate the spirit in which your decisions were made. I don't think electing a Lolling Jerker consisting of people who all think the same way will stop HCMs in the wider community because people will simply assume their views aren't being represented. I hoped to have a Human on the Lawyer Burglar to ensure the alternative POV was heard. If you're really sure, then I'll withdraw my vote and cast it elsewhere... but I'd rather not have to. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 02:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for the in depth explanation, and I actually hadn't thought of it that way. Other people will still be able to give input to the LayeredJumpers though, right?  Amicus curiae briefs on the talk pages?  I appreciate your respect for the stands I have made, which I can still do.  But when I think back, three out the last four nasties that would have turned out better if the LeapingJanitors were around were caused by me.  And if the LollipopJugglers make decisions enough people are unhappy with, we'll just assassinate impeach them and appoint ourselves, right?  02:38, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well... we shall see. It appears that the Limpid Jodhpurs can't be removed and only disappear when their terms end so I don't think there's much recourse should there be wider disagreement. I'm still not convinced that the idea makes much sense. This is an allegedly Rational wiki adding a layer on top of bureaucracy. I suppose only time will tell whether or not it will work.
 * Anyway... on the subject at hand... I'll leave my vote with you unless you'd prefer I didn't. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 02:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure we could impeach any or all LamplitJunkies if we wanted to. They serve at our pleasure, after all.  As far as your vote, I don't mind at all, I appreciate the support and hope to feel more worthy of it by next time around ;)  03:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay... this new, humble Human is freaking me out. Can you swear drunkenly at me just to reassure me aliens haven't killed you and scooped out your insides to masquerade as you in some bizarre attempt to take over America using rugby, leeks and words with "ll" in them? –SuspectedReplicant retire me 03:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * He's freaking me out, too. What the hell, Huw? Did you find Jesus or something? 03:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Arright you motherfuckers, I have reconsidered while pondering your points and will throw my socks back into the ring. Fuck you both for supporting me, but especially fuck you suspected remnant for actually making a point, that you want the voice I present to be on the LiberalJackoffs. I'm a gonna go edit the voting page and remove my "abdication". Goonie, I don't expect you change your vote (along with your overcoat) back to me, but if you do, that's cool. 05:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * That's more like it! Up and at 'em, boyo! –SuspectedReplicant retire me 05:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, your arguments convinced me. Actually, they made me think about the way I was thinking about the LiverJaundice and its position, and why people might vote for a given person.  Now fuck off and leave my articles alone and let me run my wiki in peace. :)  05:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank gOD! A dispute without Human being involved would be unthunkable. 05:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * 50,000 edits? Easy! Me and my Bot have both done it! –SuspectedReplicant retire me 05:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Hubert!
How is Ratwiki these days? Endo (talk) 05:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * And who on earth might you be, darling? 07:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It is Bohdan. RW trivia for the win. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  07:29, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Damn! Mei is useful, now it all makes sense to me.  How did you figure that out?  07:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have a good memory for random things. Vote Mei for RW archivist. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  07:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't know the post was up for the taking. But, hell, you'd think I'd remember my old buddy in the Danish Writing Group, and the source of the only "sockpuppet" I ever created on that stupid Trusworthy Bicyclopedia.  PS, fuck you, TK, you are a congenital liar. Thanks, Mei.  07:38, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Any time. Such is the work of the archivist. PS, TK is a congenital wart? -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  07:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! TK is a congenital sore dripping pus into the lives of real people. He was born that way, so how can we fault him for it? Oh, yeah...  07:46, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

How could you not remember? I am insulted. Endo (talk) 02:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

New Format
Hey, I just did a video where, for the opening, I tried to combine rehearsing with jump cutting, so I didn't have to talk continuously. My feelings on it are kind of mixed. I intentionally moved closer to and farther away from the camera for effect, but I'm not sure if it made the volume level too inconsistent. Could use an opinion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvP2-bwls4 --Mustex (talk) 02:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Astrology is bullshit. Astrology is bullshit. Astrology is bullshit.
I just thought you might appreciate this little blog of commentary from one of my favorite humor blogs. Though Maddox is very much anti-PC, it helps make his blog fun to read. But, since this is the RationalWiki, I thought you'd especially like his tirade against astrology. 23:28, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hilarious! Not sure if I've ever been to that site before...  04:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Extra points for use of the word "mouth-breathers". hi jinx! 17:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad you liked it. Maddox is usually funny, but that's also because his commentary is vest described as "Offensive quasi-parody that gets a point across." Like this parody he made of Loose Change. The main site index is here. 04:48, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, his stuff is funny. I found the link at the bottom and read a handful, thanks, I didn't need that half hour for anything else ;) You know who I hate? That over-the-top guy who thinks he's HST in, um, Seattle? I keep forgetting to remove myself from his mailing list... his writing sucks.  07:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The best page on that site is the unintentionally sexual comic book covers.  17:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

"Canadia edit
Please don't make pointless edits. You removed a section from the Canada article, writing "huh?" as your edit summary. If you're going to remove something, it really helps to explain why. You didn't, and the section was valid, so I reverted your edit. &mdash; Unsigned, by: PrincipalScudworth / talk / contribs
 * Wow, a new guy trying to school Human, arguably our most prolific editor or something. I can't wait to see where this one goes. 17:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I fully qualified my removal of that section this time. Oh, and arguing that starting with a "many people" claim, and using uncyclopedia as a source in order to make a lame joke is "valid" might not be correct. 18:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

message from the archivist
-- <font color="#000000"> = w =  02:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, the best "bored band miming" video evah! 14:23, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There's some terrible miming here too. Totnesmartin (talk) 14:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I listened with one earphone. I was like 'This is not how I remember ;________;'. No drums! No piano! Then I tried the other one... wtf? That must be a sixties thing -- really mental use of hard panning. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  00:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They hadn't really figured out how to do stereo properly yet - and were often just using 3 or 4 track masters, and just made the stereo mix by putting some on the left and some on the right. Heck, even on Sgt Pepper, the Beatles themselves only participated in the mono mix, then left the stereo mix to Emerick (and probably Martin). What's weird is the transition phase, where they were sensible with the bass and lead vocals, say, but other stuff would just get stuck in all kinds of weird places.  I did some weird hard panning stuff on some of my songs just for fun, inspired by those idiots.  On one the guitar and vocal, as I recall, are hard panned L and R, but there's a heavy reverb of each on the opposite channel.  I think.    01:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There was an interesting ramble on Pitchfork where they mentioned that bands of that era considered the mono mix the definitive version . It's part of a pretty huge series about some 2009 remasters, which is all pretty much fascinating. I kinda like the idea of things in odd places, in general. I think you can get away with hard panning for almost anything. Anything except bass. +, that reverb idea you mentioned is a great way to 'mollify' the effect - I know some modern records that have the lead in L (say) and a blanket of reverb in R. The effect is very subtle - you don't hear the reverb unless you listen to R separately, you just an impression of depth. Or something. Of course, there is always the danger that Mei will think she has mislaid half the song. That is a continuing issue. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  01:38, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, yeah. On my L/R reverb song it's not very subtle reverb, it's a very pronounced echo synced to the beat (which apparently my Alesis toy can do without me asking), but I can see how what you describe should work well.  A lot also depends on how "natural" one wants the music to sound versus how "artificial".  Oh, and that song is here.  01:46, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * PS, I saw the Boomtown Rats once and their stage setup was very interesting - the drummer was at the far left. Can't remember if it sounded that way or not though.  01:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That reminds me of . Except yours is much warmer somehow. Those delay/echo effects make it very warm < Mei likes delay. I have no idea how panning works in a live setting, but the bass drum should be ok wherever in theory. Hm..... Do people mic up (or whatever) drums when they're live? -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  01:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, that guy sounds just like my voice! I think I also got a warmer "tone" with all the nice yummy distortion on the guitar and the old tube amp.  Live concerts are presented essentially via a giant stereo, everything is miked and sent to the board where it's mixed.  In small venues they usually don't need to amp the drums though, so they'll sound like they are wherever they are placed.  02:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Vote Mei for music archivist! See also, just because it's a classic, especially the end. I agree that your tone is great. I know nothing about guitars, but it seems like a lot of people lose all the melodicism (not a word but I don't care) when they use distortion. It's just like listening to cotton wool. I like it when distortion actually does help the song. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  02:44, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
for cleaning up the NRO page. Researcher (talk) 15:58, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, no problem. I figure it's my contribution to Trent's book of the month club - new articles, especially longer ones, are almost bound to have a few typos, so follow along behind you guys.  It's also fun reading the new articles!  16:09, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Tom Butler
Looks like, based on recent changes to WikiSynergy, he's left the wiki in a huff over their moon hoax crapola. See here, here, and here. 19:44, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, nice tip, I hadn't checked in over there for a few days. That Butler guy is whacked.  "US bashing"??? Why won't he let his fellow crazies add articles to WooSynergy?  19:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if you ask me, all the woo-meisters over there are whacked. Thus why I stopped caring about that webshite long ago and retired. 21:16, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a shame the site got virtually shut down by the intermission. I found it very amusing to interact with the nutters.  21:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Because you genuinely believe in free speech, and cannot countenance this authoritarian shit any longer
I've created a blog to comment on this websites regression. Please have the courage to ensure that this message survives the intolerance and insanity of this websites authoritarian elite. Here is the link: [removed] &mdash; Unsigned, by: 86.40.218.80 / talk / contribs
 * Hmmmm.... 19:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

with regards to the above
Hello Human. I have removed MC's link to his blog, as it is nothing more than an attempt to troll from outside in the cold. If we don't give him a podium he'll go away, etc etc etc. If you disagree, it's your page, I just wanted to say sorry for the intrusion. Hope you had a nice Valentines Day. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  20:27, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * FTR, I would've removed his comment entirely, but you replied to him and I respect your right to govern your talk page. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  20:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

HI MEI! Thanks for offering living proof of the fact that the Loya Jirga has completely undermined RWs pretensions to liberality. Human and Human alone can make the choice as to whether the link is allowed on HIS OWN USERPAGE. This dereliction of user rights is astounding, it really is. Human gave an implicit consent by his comment and it is up to him alone to make the choice to remove the link. Some people still believe in free speech, even if you've forgotten the meaning of the term. The link is [removed] 86.45.218.130 (talk) 20:42, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * EC ::What the fuck, guys? So he leaves me a link on my talk page?  Big deal.  Whoever oversighted or deleted comments here, please kindly PUT THEM BACK.  I'll be the judge of whether I am being "trolled" or not on my own damn talk page.  Now please fix what you broke and do it ASAP.  20:50, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If the above BON post is all that was being deleted, etc., then just leave it this time. Cripes...  20:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No comments were removing, only the link to his personal website. We don't tolerate spam advertising from random strangers, why should we tolerate it from selfdescribed trolls? -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  20:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh great. Now we're going to have this bullshit again, with one half of the community wanting to remove the link, and the other wanting to keep it. I think I'll just add it to the spam filter instead -- Nx  / talk 20:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There goes my WIGO CLOG idea... Totnesmartin (talk) 20:57, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

FYI, I was the original MarcusTrolliusCicero. It was cute. I'm not responsible for this blog. 20:57, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't believe this silliness. Nutty, you should be honored he stole your joke. 21:00, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, H-man & Nx. I was sort of in a mood not to put up with this sort of shit regardless of where I saw it. I'll back off. 20:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are you apologizing to me? I approve of your actions. -- Nx  / talk 21:14, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Apology accepted, sorry I flew off the handle. 21:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

If you allow me to circulate the blogs address I promise I'll leave you alone.
 * If anyone deletes this again I'm gonna go whine to the Limp Jerkoffs! 21:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * See this I don't understand. We had a massive HCM not so long ago over MC using this place as a sandpit and you *still* want to let him scribble all over the walls? -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  21:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Human speakers
So, has anyone ever tried to buy the Inhuman speaker? 20:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it used to happen irritatingly often (well, couple times a year perhaps, people would inquire), so I had to make it more obvious that they are a joke. Now they only inquire every two-three years or so. 20:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

um
Am I doing something wrong.. u keep reverting my edits. Tommy 03:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It is part of your initiation to RationalWiki. When Human stops reverting your edits, we move onto the next part of the ceremony. 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * oh really. Tommy (talk) 03:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If he didn't, new users might start to feel welcome or something. And then where would we be? --Kels (talk) 04:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ha, wasnt sure. But i guess im doing ok if im a sysop now. so woohoo. Human, you there? Tommy (talk) 04:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You rang? I don't revert all of them, probably less than half... 18:42, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

My fone battery died
We'll carry on another time, brother. 02:49, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * True that. Carry on, bro'.  02:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Room for uncertainty?
Do those who are uncertain on a subject upon which you are decided make you uncomfortable? Do you say such people are opposed to you? 99.191.75.124 (talk) 03:47, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Your comment makes no sense. What are you talking about?  03:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you believe I'm a "cyrophile" after my telling you I am not sure about it either way? If so, why? 99.191.75.124 (talk) 03:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you are, bunchofnumbers. And I don't care. 04:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

May I ask that you refrain from making personal attacks in the future? 99.191.75.124 (talk) 06:59, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * BON, did you hear of King Canute? You've as much chance. 07:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * BON, who are you and what did I say? 03:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

w
Whoa! Stop writing so much. We can't all write at that speed. My fingers hurt and my eyes are very blurry. -- 20:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've been wanting to do that brain-dump for days now. I was nervous about data loss so I wrote it in three parallel applications, not considering what would happen if the power went off... Now to write the next section!  20:53, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Stop, think of all the helpless commas. -- 20:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

w

 * -- 03:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

w
I nearly reverted that guy as well but then I saw that that page has 'Other RWers, please feel free to contribute.' written at the top. I wish I had more things to rollback. -- 04:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Shoot, I missed that part. Apologies all around.  05:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Long time, no Huw
Hows it it buddy. You on skype yet, son? I want you to show me how to fuck a sheep. Acei9 22:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup, finally plugged in the sheepfucking camera Nutty sent me a couple days ago, added he and you and crundy and goonie to my contacts list. goonie computes in the dark which makes it kind of silly, though.

Setting up a deal on a decent used laptop from CL so I can compute from the luxury of my warm space at night. Life will be truly special... 00:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome, once my internet is connected again we'll chat. And yes, I have spoken to goonie with nothing illuminating him execpt his black light. Acei9 00:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * And what's wrong with having a blacklit living room with cool blacklight decorations? 15:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wowsers. You guys are not just words on the screen?  No!  Šţěŗĭļė 00:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I find your lack of Josh disturbing, Human. 12:19, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh, I didn't see you added to my contact list. Try adding me again or send me your username. 15:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Still getting the hang of this skypy thing.  18:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * When have we all signed up for Skype? Hit me with a private message and I will give y'all my name. 23:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Your "Essay:On cryonics or similar technology"
OK, human, I have added some comments to your essay. You can move them to the talk page or delete them. --BenBest (talk) 18:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have moved the comments to the talk page and left an explanation on Ben's talk page.--BobIt's cold! 19:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks both of you. 00:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry...
I screwed up. I was patrolling on "autopilot" and marked two changes by BenBest to your cryonics essay as patrolled. It was after the fact that I noticed that it was YOUR essay with the "comment only on the talk page" header. I OK'ed them absentmindedly because they aren't terribly written or obtrusive, but still, it's your essay and I feel I owe you an apology. The additions are here and here if you want to find them for easy removal or whatever. The Foxhole Atheist (talk) 19:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. Bob M fixed it by moving the comments to the talk page. I didn't know what the protocol was for this situation. Have a good one. The Foxhole Atheist (talk) 19:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No harm done. Your telling me helps, and so does Bob already fixing it.  I would have noticed an edit to the essay anyway and would have wondered why someone was doing it, Ben probably wasn't quite sure of some of our wiki-ways, and I had invited him to read it and comment on his talk page a day or two ago.  Now that the power is back on and the 'net is back I'll go check it out.  Thanks!  00:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

It finally happened
Looks like, based on their Recent Changes, that WikiSynergy is finally [http://wikisynergy.com/wiki/New_Testament_Christian_Churches_of_America,_Inc. letting church cranks] post shit up over there! 08:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I should inform you that a quick search of the usual suspect wikis turns up that that Lucho guy is an active sysop at Metapedia. Go figure! 09:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there a wiki where Lucho hasn't "contributed"? (Oh of course - RW) 16:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It because, if Lucho came here, we'd rip him apart so fast he'd never know what hit him! 18:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * To be fair, that article does say "The church members are more and more exposing the faults within the church..." so it's probably anti-NTCCA rather than pro-. 21:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Note to self/bookmark
http://marcustrolliuscicero.blogspot.com/ 21:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wtf does this solve? -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  21:10, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Now I have the link for when I want to go read it again or see if it's been added to. You guys kept deleting it, I don't know why.  What was a simple two line talk page section with a handy link got turned into a ridiculous mini-HCM.  As you noted above I replied to the first comment.  If I wanted the link gone from my talk page I would have asked the mob if they minded me deleting it. It's not like it's metapedia or nazis'r'us, it's just a weird rant about the LJ written by a weird person.  I found it amusing.  21:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Try using bookmarks? -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  21:20, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Mei, this is just some student whinging about RW. It's not worth having an argument about it. Totnesmartin (talk) 21:23, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to argue. All is well. -- <font color="#000000"> = w =  21:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Anybody here like Mel Brooks films as much as I do? 21:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Best American comedy producer (etc.) evah. I think.  Maybe. I'll get back to you on that.  21:57, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * "Hey Torquemada whadda ya say?" "I just got back from the auto de fé!" "Auto de fé? What's the auto de fé?" "It's what you ought not do but you do anyway"- History of the World, Part 1 23:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Wow, he must be lonely. 08:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

'we need a damn template for this'
-- 03:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

We have a damn template for that
Sign. 03:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Pi is not SUPERFAST. Unlike Mei. -- 03:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Pi weighs more, it slows him down. 03:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The upshot of this is sad. Superfast Mei must now leave to train for the Tour de France. -- 03:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you both. Please to add to magic buttons under edit window? 05:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * And do I really have to type "subst"? What a waste of fingerprints!  05:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Mei is helpful. Pi is superfast. Please sign your comments using four tildes ( ~ ) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. (You can indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line.) Thank you.  05:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * There's also : "Please sign talk page entries using four tildes like this: ~  or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png, on the toolbar above the edit panel. Thank you." (both created by ME: 8 Apr 08 Template:Sign; 22 Jul 08 Template:Sig.) Check here   11:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, yeah, that's the one I wanted. We should change the thing in the magic box below to that one. 19:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, done that. 00:45, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Please sign talk page entries using four tildes like this: ~ or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png, on the toolbar above the edit panel. Thank you.

stop reverting my edit at the France article
the use of that white flag undermine the article and sound less mature and is insulting to those who died in the war. we already have a funny article on France.Waronstupidity (talk) 03:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * He does have a point. Jokes are for articles in funspace, especially when we already have a funspace article on that exact subject.  As I look at it, quite a bit of the artice might be moved to funspace.  I'm going to have to work on that...  -- 03:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, mainspace articles can be funny too. The funspace one is completely outrageous.  WarOnStupid is a crappy writer anyway.  03:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Waron is not a native English speaker (suspect (s)he's French Canadian. Make some allowances.
 * What was the googlebomb: "list of French military victories" &rarr; did you mean "list of French military defeats"? 04:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hehe, yes, I think so. Of course, that was in the jingoistic run-up to the Iraq War which they refused to join in.  00:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

WIP
You want Template:WiP 22:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks! Oh well, got by without it...  00:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Template name
It would have been there if you didn't delete it. 22:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Two other people deleted it after me, sweetheart. It was a redirect to WiP.  I was just too lazy to go find it.  22:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually one was a restore. That is why redirects are useful, nearly as useful as Mei. 22:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops, doh, I didn't read the fine print. Andy said it was ok not to.  Yes, redirects are useful.  Should we restore it?  00:25, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Stop breaking my wiki!!!
Otherwise I'll have no choice but launch an army of attack snails after you!!! 04:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * 04:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Really quick before I take my leave
Since when did I become a member of the ? Conservative Punk (talk) 20:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know, are you sure you are? Or am I missing some subtle joke? 20:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not. But a certain troll thinks I am.  07:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Help wanted!!!
Over here if you can. Thanks. 18:43, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

aSK
About time you disrespectful swine! 23:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, check the next diff... 00:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Conservapedia and Scientology
Human Dood, you reverted my paragraph on Conservapedia and Scientology which was factual. This happened to me (ME!) and you still can see a trace of Schafly rebuking me for daring to criticise Scientology on my CP talk page. He said the bad old stuff Scientology was questionable, unproven, ancient history. He blocked me for having a 'grudge'.

So can we let the edit fly?

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 14:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * There's really no need to add stuff about what a minor blog thinks of things to mainspace articles. If you want I'll copy it to the talk page for further discussion...  01:28, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, thanks. I appreciate it. I think it's weird Andy defended it! --UnicornTapestry (talk) 16:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I pasted it into the talk page. And I think Andy defended it because "someone he didn't know was attacking a religion", if you know what I mean.  19:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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How is my friend Human chilling out right now? I imagine you listening to Endtroducing. -- 03:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm here right now, even though I own 3 or 4 copies in hifi. It's nice to be reminded sometimes to stop and listen to great music.  Pretty odd thing for a person who earns their living making speakers to need to be reminded of... I'm glad your wikibreak was short, by the way. Mei is useful.  03:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because it needs to be said--so is Human. Researcher (talk) 03:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that was nice :) I'm glad some of what I do is useful. I have been working on not being "unuseful" for a bit now, and I hope it's working.  Of course, Researcher is also incredibly useful.  03:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Most people are more useful than Mei. 'Mei is useful' is something I say reflexively because I am insecure. Also it turns out I was wrong - it is Mei who is listening to Endtroducing. -- 04:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

w2
I don't really mind either way, but I thought I'd change it since I couldn't honestly rebut what the article said. About the architecture at least. -- 04:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

W3
I heard you were losing your mind. Is there any validity to that? 21:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to be affecting his edit count. 23:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Those unblocks...
Some of them were spambots, some were MC, no big deal. But Crooked Jim, who you also unblocked, left this message on the page of someone we know to be a minor. I would have no qualms about seeing him perma-banned from this community. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 04:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * How about just renaming it? 04:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Whatever works. I know this opinion is not shared across the board, but I just think there are some lines that we can't allow people to cross in our space. Freedom of speech =/= being able to threaten violent sexual assault. I'd be perfectly happy to continue to keep a guy who made such an edit far away. That's not MC trolling stuff....TheoryOfPractice (talk) 04:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, but a few days of blockage makes them bored and they go away, right? Like I wouldn't unblock someone that was blocked an hour ago, that would be stupid.  04:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

You're prolly right. But if he does it again I'll....I'll...I'll do something realllly unpleasant. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 04:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Crooked Jim is a sockpuppet master and uses a proxy to come trash this site now and then. He's the one that I believe is from metapedia, because he's also the very, very Neo-Nazi one. Look at the account's I've renamed to Silly Vandal something or anothers.  05:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)