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http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&curid=84099&diff=667446&oldid=667294

Block #53775
Dear A. Schlafly,

on May 26, 2009, I created an account at Conservapedia, mainly to make the following edit:


 * In the apostolic constituion fedei depositum His Holiness John Paul II endorses the catechism:
 * The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I approved 25 June last and the publication of which I today order by virtue of my Apostolic Authority, is a statement of the Church's faith and of Catholic doctrine, attested to or illumined by Sacred Scripture, Apostolic Tradition and the Church's Magisterium. I declare it to be a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion and a sure norm for teaching the faith. May it serve the renewal to which the Holy Spirit ceaselessly calls the Church of God, the Body of Christ, on her pilgrimage to the undiminished light of the kingdom! 
 * The catechism may not stand forever, but it is the sure norm for teaching the faith.
 * If you don't like the cathechism, fine. But an apostolic constitution it's a Papal bull, the highest level of decree issued by a Pope. It even outranks the (better known) Encyclical Letter - the next highest level...
 * GermanLibrarian 09:23, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

Instead of an answer, I was blocked - not my account, but my IP:


 * 12:02, 26 May 2009 12:02, 26 May 2009 User:TK (Talk | contribs) blocked 130.83.0.0/16 (Talk) with an expiry time of 6 months (account creation disabled) â€Ž (Abuse of legitimate ISP for trolling / vandalism purposes: TU-DARMSTADT, Germany)

I got the impression that my IP was blocked as there was no valid reason to block my account, though apparently someone disliked my edit, as the block log comment for the IP block indicates.

I tried to rectify this problem, by emailing TK. (As our email exchange doesn't contain personal information, I decided to post it here.)

''Hi, after one edit (here ), you blocked my library - and parts of the university of Darmstadt... ''May I ask, why? Especially, as you didn't revert my edit, but that of PNeville (here)?'' Thanks, G.L.

and I got the following answer

''I can understand your frustration. It isn't personal; you were not "singled out" as we say here in America. CP is an encyclopedia project. Not a forum or a board which are vehicles for discussion or debate. Yes, they are called talk pages, but for communicating about the articles, not for endless discussion about the merits of the basic article, or grand philosophical debates.'' ''You disagree with Schlafly, he disagrees with you. He is a conservative, you are not. If you like engaging in serious debate of great issues, find a board or forum that was created for such.'' I am sorry, but you will not be unblocked, but I do wish you well and send with this my hope you have a very pleasant summer! --TK

Really, I was surprised by TK's reasoning, and answered again - I do apologize for the embarrassing spelling and syntax errors :-)

''Frustration? No - If you think I should not argue at CP, please block me personally, but don't block a whole university.'' ''Endless discussion? I made one edit: and it was a factual, nothing you can disagree about: the statement that an apostolic constitution is the highest level of decree within the Catholic Church.'' I'm a Roman Catholic myself, and I hoped that clarifying these things would be seen as helpful. G.L.

The reaction:

''Since I find it improbable that there is even one person at your great university who shares Conservapedia's American, conservative point of view, I hardly think the IP block, which is of short duration, is detrimental to anyone. The IP block doesn't preclude anyone from reading CP. I just might end up blocking most of Europe and it will have no negative impact on our project, being it has an American, Christian and Conservative outlook, and we are not interested in reading from anyone in the EU why we are "wrong".'' ''Reading your arguments I now better understand why my Austrian grandfather always spoke of the German stubbornness, their belief that what they had to say should be important to others. If you run into my good friend Sid, please convey my best regards. I am also Roman Catholic, educated by Jesuits, and know that a Papal Decree trumps all other missives issued by the Holy See...there was simply a miscommunication of word usage, is all.'' --TK

My final answer:

Your behaviour destroys any goodwill - you are neither a good ambassador for Conservapedia, nor for the conservatives of the United States in general. G.L.
 * 1)  The TU Darmstadt has a vivid exchange program with universities around the world - even in North America. Every year, you'll find students and staff from the U.S., working in Darmstadt. Do you know the concept of traveling? Regarding a conservative resp. liberal point of view,  please keep in mind that the TU Darmstadt is a technical university.
 * 2)  six month isn't a short duration - not in internet time.
 * 3)  So, you agree that I inserted a factual correct statement. And your answer to this is to block not my account, but to hand out the biggest range block possible.
 * 4)  You seem to mix up Germany and Liechtenstein: though Germany is considerably smaller than the United States, not all of its inhabitants know each other.

Is this the official policy of Conservapedia: there are probably no conservatives outside from the United States, so we are not interested in any input made by anyone living in a foreign country?

If not, I'd appreciate the unblock of #53775.

Yours, G.L.