File talk:John Fuerst.jpg

Gone?
Why is this image gone? 21:21, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It's probably not gone, but someone added a red link of the image. The image has apparently never existed before. 21:26, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The image on never on RationalWiki; instead, it was on the Wikimedia Commons. RationalWiki makes use of InstantCommons, so images on Commons appear on RationalWiki. What happened was that the image in question was deleted from Commons while its uploader was blocked as a sockpuppeteer. --207.244.83.212 (talk) 22:16, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, BoNs! 22:19, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The BoN is a sock of the banned user Michaeldsuarez. An admin from Wikiversity just 24-hour blocked him for personal attacks and doxing where he showed up trying to cause drama related to the banned account he just linked to.Englisc (talk) 22:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Even if what you say is true, he hasn't caused trouble here yet. RoninMacbeth (talk) 23:50, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


 * He was lying. While I have learned not to trust user names, Englisc is the WMF username, part of a sock family that, among other things, outed Michaeldsuarez on Wikiversity -- exactly as he did here. By the duck test, this is the same user, who would have a high interest in this image, since he uploaded it on Commons originally, and likely put it here. How else would he even be aware of this edit? And who else cares about that trivia on Wikiversity?
 * MDS was blocked because he restored the blanked outing -- he wanted to defend himself -- pissing off the confused administrator. Wiki disease. Strikes those who feel responsible for a wiki and become frustrated. I.e., he blocked MDS for restoring his own damned personal information. MDS will survive. That administrator might be in some hot water. The sock army, including Englisc, is doomed, but this is meaningless to them, because they just create more accounts, have for years. The user who put the Fuerst image on Commons has been blocked there as part of this sock family. From the user talk page on Commons, the image went up on August 20, 2017. It was added here by a user the same day. That user is also Englisc -- a practical certainty --, but the puppet master apparently is two brothers, and they do know about vpns, or claim to, so they might evade technical detection, but the duck shit is all over most of what they touch, and the quacks are deafening. I'd never heard of these guys till last week (except for an odd user name here and there, never connected until I looked at Wikipedia sock puppet investigations). I found out about a certain Wikiversity user having been blocked and his work deleted. WTF? The guy had not been disruptive, as far as I knew. In fact, he'd stopped editing. So I looked and found what appeared to be massive impersonation. It was a long shot, but I filed a steward request and bingo! A pile of socks, pretending to be another user (a blocked one) in order to create an appearance of disruption by that user. You can track this back with the Commons link, if interested, and you can track it forward by watching my Wikiversity contributions. This is the dirtiest bunch of assholes I've encountered, and I've seen too many. Just sayin! Carry on! Have fun! --Abd (talk) 19:10, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Abd you claim to be a Muslim but you keep swearing and stalking people. Allah would not tolerate this brother. You are making us look bad. I pray for you. Muslim man (talk) 19:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * This isn't the right place to talk. I'll contact a mod if this discussion is continued here. 19:57, 26 September 2017 (UTC)