User:RobSmith/Karajou proposes calling the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to deal with a typo

Karajou: he's trying to pull the wool over people's eyes. Trent failed with us, but there's other suckers in the pond. And what he's done here is illegal. Big time. There's no such city, town, village, or anthill named Hamilton anywhere within New Mexico....I believe we have enough evidence to put a stop to this man, his minions, and shut down RW once and for all. But what we need to do is to contact the proper authorities which have jurisdiction in this matter so that they can do a full investigation, which in this case begins with the NM AG. They in turn would contact the Feds, the RCMP, and whomever else handles law between us and Canada. ...To paraphrase General Patton in 1944: "The Rats have put their head in the meat grinder, and we've got a hold of the handle." Rob Smith: the NMAG would contact the RWF registered agent Charlotte Toulouse and say, "hey, there's a problem with your registration." She'd respond, "oops sorry, a typographical error," and that would be the end of it. Karajou:Send the info to NM AG by the end of this week; let them begin the major investigations. On that level, they can make phone calls to the Feds, the RCMP, and McMaster U... Rob Smith:Trent is well connected politically....I doubt we'd get much action or response from the Democratic Attorney General. A judge recently booted the New Mexico Attorney General from prosecuting a case for conflict of interest against the former Democratic Secretary of State (over ballot box stuffing, and closely related to the Bush White House US.Attorney firings). [Editors note, the same judge has since been arrested in his chambers for raping a prostitute and has resigned...only in New Mexico...]. Karajou:the Governor and Lt. Governor are Republicans; the AG is a Democrat. If laws are broken, the AG has to investigate. Since the individual in question - Trent - leans toward the Dem side of the fence, and since he may have political protection, an investigation would naturally have to be forced upon the AG by the Governor, either by contacting her directly or by sending the relevant documentation to the FBI field office in Santa Fe. Rob Smith:Please, focus on Rationalwiki editor's, those we can identify, who are involved in DDoS attacks. Present what evidence we have, from our webserver, and theirs, who is involved Then we need what relevant criminal and/or civil laws may have been violated. As to tax law violations, we need to focus on potential federal violations of RW's 501(c)3 status. The NM registration maybe little more than a typographical error that can be fixed with a stroke of the pen. It means nothing, and I mean nothing, in itself, apart from the larger issues of federal DDoS violations & tax law abuse. Then it only is supporting evidence to those larger issues. We risk loosing a valuable piece of supporting evidence of bad faith and fraud by separating it from those larger issues. Karajou:I checked with New Mexico authorities directly concerned with filing registrations, and it turned out that Trent actually filed the paperwork properly when he registered RW as a charity. The actual address he gave was to Hamilton, Ontario; the State of New Mexico website which lists the charities defaults to New Mexico when the address is searched. If I registered a charity there with my Tennessee address, I suspect it would default to New Mexico as well. So, the below address exists as a harmless typo...
 * May 1, 2011, excerpted:
 * June 20, 2011 Karajou reported to the sysop group:

My comment:It was at this point I figured the only way to get Karajou to listen is to post through WIGO. RobSmithI am a victim of anonymous CP trolls 22:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Damn Rob, that’s fascinating. It’s steeped in intrigue. It almost reads like a Tom Clancy novel... oh who am I bullshittin’? Who cares? --Inquisitor (talk) 22:44, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hah, both of you were off in la-la land. I do like that Karajou wanted to call the FBI though. Ah, memories. -- 22:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this video sums up my reaction to that--Mikalos209 (talk) 22:48, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This is Breaking News: Karajou wanted to call in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) as well. RobSmithI am a victim of anonymous CP trolls 23:01, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok? That'll do pig,is my response to this "Breaking news"--Mikalos209 (talk) 23:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This gave me such a laugh! Thank you Rob.  And Karajou - you are a fucking moron, but a delightful buffoon at the same time.  Really good laugh.  --Phil Leotardo da Vinci (talk) 01:12, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

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 * I've pretty much stayed out of all this, Mr Smith. But when you say "...only way to get Karajou to listen" you seem to forget that in the black-and-white world that Mr. K lives in there are no small crimes, typos, or mitigating factors: it's simply a case of Us versus Them.

Us=good, conservative, God-fearing Christians trying to maintain a web presence of People Like Us (which, as we all know, are in the MAJORITY) except we struggle against the Them, ( whore who're bad, liberal, atheists) who just happen to be 90% of the Dirty liberal media...the True Media, the truthspeakers, are part of a remnant of conservative Christians who, though small in numbers are actually (somehow) in the vast MAJORITY!
 * Either you're with Us or you're a dirty, filthy, liberal-loving atheist who I'd as soon as shoot as block for five years.


 * Then again, (putting on mu metal hat), if the past few weeks haz been an elaborate ruse to get us to let our guard down and let you, Mr. Smith, into the inner sanctum, pity's the sake that we haven't got one.


 * Speaking as an ex-christian I will feel most comfortable with helping you out of other delusions but only if you see the need for yourself to do so: I would suggest that you go through whatever grieving process you need to go through and contribute mightily to this wiki (or Ameriwiki as I see you have been) and leave Andy Schlafly and Brian and Ms Ken and poor Ed Poor to themselves.

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 * I love a good Angry Bear rant, especially when he thinks he can have us convicted. I am interested Rob. -  π    silverbrain.png 23:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What are my chances of being granted asylum here, or should I try North Korea instead? RobSmithI am a victim of anonymous CP trolls 23:15, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You should go to Cuba where you will be hailed a national hero and given a token position in the country's parliament. -  π    silverbrain.png 23:17, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * OK these are new details but essentially Rob is telling us what we already know that Karajou is a carbon-copy of a Hollywood thuggish military reactionary stereotype à la A Few Good Men. 23:30, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know the whole Trent having political connections and requiring the good Republican governor to have to lean on the corrupt Democratic attorney general was gold. -  π    silverbrain.png 23:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The response is simple: Question: Karajou, you say "If laws are broken". Please state the laws that were broken. Answer:  No laws were broken. The End.   DogP (talk) 23:41, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * More:

Karajou:...There is NO such town or city named Hamilton anywhere within New Mexico. The link is part of New Mexico's Attorney General's office. The NM AG cannot ignore the fact that this is a clear case of fraud....the thing to do with it is to contact the NM AG. We're NOT the police, nor are we detectives. As civilians and AMATEURS, we could put ourselves in a position where we would be taken to a courtroom over violations of Trent's civil rights. The best course of action is to collect what we have, detail it in a letter directly to the NM AG, and use the word "alleged."...Detail several of the major attacks against us, specifying cyber-terrorism, threat, harassment, DDoS... Rob Smith:...fundamentally, this is probably a civil matter.... Karajou:What ever is done, it must be done quickly. Trent is going to graduate with a PhD pretty soon, and as a man with a doctorate he's going to be taken at his word no matter where he's at, while the rest of us making "complaints" will be seen as crackpots. ...[RW] can do DDoS attacks with the Feds watching every step. Their investigation will also succeed in getting a court order to open up the above link [google group/rationalwiki]. Rob Smith:...The retiring head of the local FBI field office recently said, "New Mexico may be the most corrupt state in the nation". Karajou:The governor is a Republican. How about contacting her with the details?...This is the Lt Governor, and he could be a powerful force in the investigation.  :So who's going to be submitting this complaint? Karajou, Rob,, or ? Rob Smith:We need to present a coherent case, with evidence, who is responsible for DDoS attacks. Karajou:In case the law doesn't want to get away from the doughnut shop, are there any conservative-leaning newspapers within New Mexico? Rob Smith:Please, focus on Rationalwiki editor's, those we can identify, who are involved in DDoS attacks. Present what evidence we have, from our webserver, and theirs, who is involved Then we need what relevant criminal and/or civil laws may have been violated. As to tax law violations, we need to focus on potential federal violations of RW's 501(c)3 status. The NM registration maybe little more than a typographical error that can be fixed with a stroke of the pen. It means nothing, and I mean nothing, in itself, apart from the larger issues of federal DDoS violations & tax law abuse. Then it only is supporting evidence to those larger issues. We risk loosing a valuable piece of supporting evidence of bad faith and fraud by separating it from those larger issues. Karajou:To all concerned, I'm calling this accusation about the RW Foundation's New Mexico address without basis in fact... the below address exists as a harmless typo...
 * June 20 Karajou reports,

Analysis of the foregoing: As in the "TracyS is a sockpuppet of RobS", or the second time in his career he blocked more than 64,000 IPs to deal with one troll in Halifax, we have another illustration of a general pattern of Karajou's thinking. Motivated by an unforgiving spirit of vengeance, Karajou is all too quick to jump to a conclusion, demand immediate action, and let the facts sort themselves out later. I've seen this thousands and thousands of times, be it a simple revert, a block, an abusive comment to a total stranger, the FBI incident, or his claim I and PsyGremlin are the same user.

@To Andy Schlalfy: My God, think about it, Andy. Karajou wanted to call the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to deal with a typo. And the perpetrator of the typo wasn't even Trent Toulouse, it was a clerk in the New Mexico Attorney General's Office [(sic) should read Taxation & Revenue Dept]. And I spent probably 3 hours trying to convince him to calm down and focus on what the real problems were. RobSmithI am a victim of anonymous CP trolls 01:51, 18 August 2011 (UTC)