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Debate:Should People who make bad medical descisions be given treatment | Result: Kept

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Delete

 * 1) Possible end of the civilized word Bubba41102 42 is love 42 is life 13:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * If you're regretting your proposal, just edit it to that effect, e.g. like the strikethrough stuff I wrote below followed by my revised opinion. Changing your mind is not a problem, it's a good sign, and no one (or at least no one sensible) will think any less of you if that change of heart stays on the record. Hence, I don't see why a delete is necessary, nor am I sure debates are eligible since this page is meant for articles. ScepticWombat (talk) 22:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Yeah, I don't see this going in any useful direction. Better to let it fade back into the bushes. Alec Sanderson (talk) 14:05, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) Delete - There really isn't a debate or difference in opinion allowed. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 22:02, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, being criticized or having your opinion confused/conflated with someone else's is totally the same thing as being persecuted for thought crimes. >.> 141.134.75.236 (talk) 23:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Keep

 * 1) Debate is debate. I don't think we should arbitrate on which debates are 'worthy' of the site. Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) Okay, WTF? Since when has either RW or its mob begun to delete debates just because someone doesn't like the proposal, or it's terribly written/formatted? Sure, you may find a proposal reprehensible or the formatting and language close to incomprehensible, but that's why people can respond - it's called a debate. If we were talking something like mikemikev's race trolling, I might understand it, but this one? Really? When no one (myself included) suggested any curbing of LogicMaster's "states are religions"-crankery which was simply repeated in several debates and essays? ScepticWombat (talk) 22:05, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Look carefully, and you will see that the originator of this debate is the one who put it up for deletion. Alec Sanderson (talk) 22:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * And it matters why? If the originator wants it deleted, (s)he can delete it. On second thought, no. A stupid debate stands. Just stop contributing to it and it'll simply die (like all the other debates). I really don't see why a delete is even necessary (nor am I sure debates are actually eligible for a delete vote anyway). ScepticWombat (talk) 22:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) It's a debate. Stupid debate is still debate. This is even more stupid than the Chicken Coop deletion. FuzzyDogPotato (talk/stalk) 22:18, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) Deleting a page isn't how you let something "fade back into the bushes." It also fails to meat the criteria for an existential threat to human civilization. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 22:19, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * For the record, "fade back into the bushes" was my way of expressing sympathy for what I took to be Bubba's regret at putting up such a weak premise in the first place. Alec Sanderson (talk) 22:29, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fair, though I agree with ScepticWombat's comment in regard to how that might preferably be resolved. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 23:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Goat
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 * Stupidity and debate and stupidity in debate are sorta features of RW - David Gerard (talk) 15:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Are debate pages even elegible for AfD? |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ [[image:Star_of_David.png|12px|link=Special:Block/Raysenn]] [[User_talk:Raysenn|
 * Not an article. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 17:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ^ Exactly, that's why I voted to keep. It shouldn't even be posted here. And I think I'd better remind those who "goated" so far that although the arguments looks very much like "Keep" votes (i.e. that debates are ineligible for deletion nominations), as long as you're goating, your opinions don't count in the delete/keep score. Basically, if you think that debates are ineligible for deletion, you might want to put in a keep vote too. ScepticWombat (talk) 22:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)