Forum:Raelians and the fight against Pseudoscience

I am an independent filmmaker with hopes to make a very thorough documentary covering the Raelians if not many additional cults and their appeal in general. Pseudoscience, new age cults in particular. I have a friend of two years who I am otherwise close to that I just learned of the Raelian Movement from. I have grown terrified and frustrated (but motivated to fight!) over the ridiculous pseudoscience the guy who created this religion is using to (let's face it) indoctrinate people with. There are some exciting claims to think about in terms of potential for technological advancements (though none that you could hear about through anyone else), but there is absolutely no supporting evidence given at any point throughout his book that it already exists or very soon will. I am trying to write and create a documentary against con men like this guy, but I don’t want to merely say what I think is true, and give little to no respectable research or evidence to back me up—that would make me no different than this con man. For now I am hoping to develop a reasonable and respectable counter argument to the following written claims (though there are many more - I have to go one step at a time) in his first book alone, “Intelligent Design.”

A good blog created and maintained by an ex level 4 Raelian guide: http://raelian-truth.blogspot.com/ Maybe we could all contribute further?

May I bring up, for now, a point for proper scientific scrutiny: Consider (as stated in Rael's message) the great flood of the Genesis story in the Christian bible was explained to be caused by a barrage of nuclear missiles (no specific amount of missiles or strength in missile(s) is detailed) that caused a tidal wave on Earth, killing everything. With that hypothesis in mind:

Question one: What are some of the most substantial pieces of evidence supporting the idea that the great flood never took place by any means? Question two: What, if any evidence supports or disproves the idea that it was a result of nuclear bombs or similar technology? Question: With the size of either one bomb or many required to totally wipe out earth via a flood, how long would the fallout and nuclear winter last? Would it be anywhere near 25,000 years? Does it even matter because the evidence for such devices would be overwhelming when it is not?
 * Answer to question one. There is no evidence which supports the existence of the flood. As there is no evidence it ever happened asking for evidence it did not happen is absurd.
 * Answer to question two. As there is no evidence that the flood ever occurred asking questions about the mechanisms behind something which did not happen is fruitless.
 * On a completely unrelated point about the Raelians, their work in the field of FGM is to be respected. Which goes to show that even lunatics can sometimes get it right.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 21:35, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Bob, I appreciate your time. On one hand, the Raelian side claim essentially that any religious beliefs are irrelevant to the cause. Fine, fair enough. But on the other hand, “Clitoraid” very likely wouldn't exist if not for the Raelians, so to say it isn't about publicity and advertising of their cult just isn't good enough (that’s like saying, “We’re just the face of this effort.”)—sadly, it is victims of FGM who suffer either way. I personally don't care who fixes the issue, as long as it gets fixed and these women are able to experience pain free pleasure. Take alook at this: http://www.clitoraid.org/news It's the political leaders of the world who aren't so lenient. But because the Raelians don't seem to care to approach this issue more thoroughly, these FGM victims suffer even more because they had their hopes up, many traveled great distances at their own financial expense. This is why even ‘proactive’ cults like this one are rightfully shunned and disrespected - they’re irresponsible and reckless. Having good intentions alone is not enough. In a nutshell, I feel this is why any group or government entity should take thorough care to straighten out any and all local political, social and religious concerns before tackling physical, immediate concerns. Arguably, they've run into very similar underlying issues the U.S. has with the war on terror. It’s just too complicated and deeply seeded of an issue to merely beat into submission through war or surgery. Creating any religion is like performing female genital mutilation. About 99.9% of the truth is still out there - you're merely covering up the tip of the iceberg. "Potential Answers to Universal Existence Mutilation?" After removing the obstructive and often painful scarring of religion, you begin to expose some of the existing reason. After some time healing you can function as a new person, restoring potential for inner balance, direction and pleasure. Progress in the field of what I call reasonoplasty may be described as glacial. Reasonoplasty is the reassignment of reason in both men and women, and it isn't rocket science. If I wanted to be controversial I'd say fuck you to these people. There's cultural bias and individual bias there, combined with emotional longing or good old ignorance. There may be some legitimate reasons or fear about attempting reasonoplasty with many different cultures, but when you talk to the families, significant others and friends of the men and women affected, they're not happy around their loved ones and partners — and that's even without going into the misery the people facing religious blockage suffer. As you might imagine, there is a disagreement in the medical world about the effectiveness of reasonoplasty. Opponents fail to see it as a corrective procedure, not only to increase emotional pleasure and self fulfillment, but how it affects sexual pleasure, too. These people feel normal again. It is a human right. An estimated 5.6 billion people in the world currently suffer from PAUXM. Every infant born is at risk of it.
 * I see.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 13:12, 16 March 2014 (UTC)