Talk:Virgin birth

Definition of Virgin
Of course, depending on what definition of virgin one uses, the semen could have been collected elsewhere and introduced to Mary manually, pun intended.

Iain

Special Births
Most of what we have here is part of the woo around "jesus is not an original", specifically the Mizithra myths. The need to make all these other gods "virgin births" or born on Dec 25, etc., is agenda driven. I took a bunch out, but some other stuff should probably be revised. --Godot   On a perdu le contrôle 01:34, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I was half expecting to see the stupid Donysus argument trotted out too. Proper parthenogenesis seems to be pretty uncommon in ancient myth. --Wackyvorlon (talk) 01:41, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Jesus
I think Mary was actually a World of Warcraft player. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 03:19, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Silver Spoon
Edit reverted because of lack of support. Furthermore, only ancient support I can find for contention re: Alexander etc. is from Plutarch in the second c CE. This does not give us evidence re: earlier gospel. It is possible that elements from Christianity have syncretized into plutarch's narrative, we do not know. Wackyvorlon (talk) 20:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Not really a virgin
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the "virgin" part is just changing "young maiden" (what in this age would be considered a teen in the best case) by mistranslation into "virgin" (not sex before). Is that right even if it does not make this more true?.
 * The whole story is a myth from start to finish. So I am not sure that changing one part of the translation would change the facts.  But I guess it would change the story for Christians as then logically Joseph could have been Jesus's father.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 14:47, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Length of virginity
In Eastern Orthodox tradition only immaculate conception is significant, and the birth implicitly assumed to be of relatively ordinary type, with loss of virginity implied by default and simply not brought up. The title "Virgin Mary" refers to the fact that she was (let's not split hairs about amount of truth in Gospels, I'm talking about the narrative) a virgin during that time, not that she remained in this state forever.--Arisano (talk) 13:58, 10 June 2022 (UTC)