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Should we parole TDM2
Upon further reflection, I think a permaban is a bit harsh. I am aware that others may disagree, especially because of his inflammatory comments, but second chances never go a miss. I propose we put TDM2 on probation, and if he acts up again we block him for good, no mercy if he fucks up again. Thoughts? — Ɖøn Ĵuan   Harass  22:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * On the one hand I might lean toward agreement, especially if one of the conditions for his release was remaining Binned until he's proved his worth. On the other hand suspicious BoN behavior always makes me cautious about unbanning someone. Those are my thoughts on the matter, as requested. 22:49, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't waste our time with this. DM already sent a troll BoN to pollute our talk pages. DM did not make any susbstantive contributions. Bongolian (talk) 22:56, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed. But IIRC, DarkMaster2's block vote didn't last that long, did it? Couldn't that set a worrying precedent? RoninMacbeth (talk) 22:58, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually I wouldn't mind having him back. He might be less annoying now he knows we will happily permaban him anyway. 23:02, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Or, now he knows he can send a feeble troll BoN to get himself unbanned. Bongolian (talk) 23:15, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I vote no. But seriously, we should in the future keep votes open for longer than that one did. RoninMacbeth (talk) 23:19, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Well lets just all vote again, that way it's settled. :D 23:21, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh come on, can we stop wasting time on this worthless piece of trash? What do we gain from doing this!? 00:15, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * We finish, definitively, what we started. RoninMacbeth (talk) 00:25, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Uphold the Permaban

 * 1) He's lost any remaining sympathy from me. RoninMacbeth (talk) 00:25, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 2) He's a total waste of time. Bongolian (talk) 00:41, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) He utterly fucked up any goodwill I had originally. 00:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 4) i never want to see him or any of his BoN socks here again. Spud (talk) 01:20, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 5) Were it not for his gamergate trolling i’d Be willing to give him another chance, but regurgitating that crap over and over burned any good will left. Cosmikdebris (talk) 01:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 6) GG bullshit, still hasn't apologized or walked back his numerous baseless accusations against me and at last count what appeared to be the bulk of this site's active users. He wants to eat crow and apologize, then we'll talk controlled probation. 02:00, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 7) Called me a "cunt", I told him it was not cool, he then proceeded to call me "female reproductive organ" which is pretty much calling me a "cunt" again but lying this time, and also called other users this. Only one example of this user abusing our tolerance and promotion of thought and discussion in the community. This user is a throbbing sink stopper gunk that was cleared out, and I don't feel like putting it back in the drain again to see it clog up. 02:14, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * So I`m guessing the consensus is "uphold the permaban." So, move to archive? — Ɖøn Ĵuan   Harass  07:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Parole the DarkMaster2

 * 1) I think we should give him one more chance. He has done a lot of things bad the gamergate stuff and swearing. But what harm can come from one more chance? We can stuff him in the vandal bin till he proves himself? Tabula Rasa (talk) 04:44, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Unless he eats crow and apologizes to the people he hurt (excluding me, I honestly don't give a fucking rat's ass about my own feelings, I've been through worse) my vote stays firmly in the "ban" camp. If he wants to come back and stay he needs to learn some manners, he needs to show that he's actually willing to change his behavior, not just recite the words he thinks gets him off the hook. P.S. The swearing isn't a big deal from my perspective, it's the willful intent to harm others that I have a problem with. 04:59, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * @GrammarCommie, Yeah I agree if he apologizes then unban him. But still watch his edits and keep him in the bin. Tabula Rasa (talk) 05:18, 24 December 2018 (UTC)