User talk:Stevo

Hello and welcome. Keep the discussions on the same page, etc...

Welcome to RationalWiki 2.0! -Ĭ₠ŴΣĐĝё 16:33, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks Ice, I'm a fan of your work. BTW, what's this '2.0' business about? --Stevo 16:40, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
 * There was an earlier incarnation of RationalWiki, but we were _really_ sloppy about articles vs. discussions and namespaces, and rather than try to fix it we scrapped it and started over. --jtl talk 12:08, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I see, thanks! --Stevo 12:20, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

User Page
I dunno what the Gods of 2.0 will think of your new page, but is there a way you can leave the tabs (discussion, history) clickable? I think, though, that you may be deserving of a 5 minute block for trying to bring back minimalism. No one likes the 80s. ;) αιρδισΗ ταλκ  11:20, 19 June 2007 (CDT)


 * But I liked it for its minimalist whiteness! Ok, I'll change it back for the mo --Stevo 11:22, 19 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I liked it too - it's just getting to your talk page might be annoying - maybe have whited-out links that work when you roll over them? I wouldn't worry too much, was more a welcome than a warning (or was intended to be - the user page is your castle or some such thing somewhere in the rules...) αιρδισΗ ταλκ  11:29, 19 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Thanks :) Well i'll work out something later... --Stevo 11:35, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * If you want to make your user page tabs unusable, you could just add a "talk" link to your sig, making it easy to get here. Just an idea. Of course, anyone savvy can edit the url in their browser... human be in 14:20, 23 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks, I actually hadn't realised the default sig doesn't contain a talk link! Fixed it now. I stopped having my page blanked out cos I got bored of it though. --Stevo (talk) 14:44, 24 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Or just ignore me and see does anyone else decide to have a tantrum ;) δαιισρΗ τ  α  λ κ  12:28, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I dig the intense whiteness and nothingness. It inspires me to fill my mind.--PalMD-yada yada 12:36, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Isn't minimalism more of a '60s than an '80s thing? I don't remember the '80s as particularly minimalist, to the extent that I remember them at all. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 12:59, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * The 80's were more of "le siecle de la chevre" than anything.--DoxXox-DawkT0wk 13:11, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Tous les siècles sont des siècles de la chèvre! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 13:14, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I can just remember white rooms and no furniture from 80s movies. or i saw american psycho last week for the first time with it's white walls and little furniture. I was thinking interior design rather than art, but i may still be wrong. δαιισρΗ τ  α  λ κ  13:16, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * The rooms were mostly bare because we'd just got finished tearing down all that fake wood panelling and tossing out the hammered metal sculptures and string art from the '70s. The 80's were all about bright primary colours and geometric shapes, as I recall.  And big hair.  But not Utah Mormon type big hair.  Go watch a couple of Pat Benetar videos as penance. --Kels 15:14, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

OK, well by, er, popular demand, it's back, but with a link to my talk page :) --Stevo 14:17, 19 June 2007 (CDT)


 * This guy's got skillz. Wonder if he's a friend of ice--PalMD-yada yada 14:16, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Sadly no, I don't know the great IceWedge. --Stevo 15:07, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Nice user page, tempted to change, but no... In tribute here's my new sig: δαιισρΗ ταλκ 16:08, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Tis better energy-saving wise (i presume) but far too messy. i'll stick with what i have, for now. δαιισρΗ ταλκ 16:53, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah, only on a bulky old CRT monitor. But I quite liked the brain floating in the darkness. And I am honoured by your signature! --Stevo 17:02, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

your help
we seem suddenly to have an embryonic index of who is good at what (see the Category Go-To Guys). Do you know of a way that if i put myself in one of these categories, the category box won't appear at the bottom of my user page? some of your blank-out wizardry maybe? δαιισρΗ <font color="#fefefe">ταλκ 17:35, 20 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Hmm, let me get to work on it --Stevo 17:43, 20 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Will something like this do you? --Stevo 17:52, 20 June 2007 (CDT)


 * That looks perfect! Go ahead and put yourself in Category:Trouble Shooter. (though if i had my way it'd be Trouble Shooters hehe).  excellent. <font color="#fefefe">δαιισρΗ <font color="#fefefe">ταλκ  17:54, 20 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Yes, well indeed, not much consistency with the plurals there. Anyway, thanks, glad it's perfect - just keep that extra div in your page (it can go anywhere in the code) and it should still work if you make changes. --Stevo 18:02, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I sense the acid tongue of perfect sarcasm. one thing, could you remove the sample page? it's showing up in the category pages! (damn technology always doing what it's told) <font color="#fefefe">δαιισρΗ <font color="#fefefe">ταλκ 18:05, 20 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I'll remove it now. <font color="#fefefe">δαιισρΗ <font color="#fefefe">ταλκ 18:10, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Hehe. Done (blanked the page). Will get an admin to delete. --Stevo 18:09, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Aah, sorry, didn't realise you were a sysop! Thanks --Stevo 18:11, 20 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I keep it secret - haven't had to do anything with it yet. no need to delete the page - it's nonexistant, and if we need it we can restore. <font color="#fefefe">δαιισρΗ <font color="#fefefe">ταλκ 18:14, 20 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Yeah, just saw Tmtoulouse had already done it. --Stevo 18:16, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

talk page template & others
I assume it was you who improved it, since you fixed my talk page use of the template. Thanks! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 11:01, 22 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Yeah sorry I hadn't left a message for you on your talk page but I had replied to you at Template_talk:Talkpage --Stevo 11:04, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * No need to apologise for doing what I asked! I could follow the breadcrumbs easily enough. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 11:17, 22 June 2007 (CDT)


 * No problem then, you're very welcome --Stevo 11:24, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks again, for fixing the VD template so the cat works! Are you the same Stevo I see late at night in "Jackass"? (the movie...) <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 14:23, 23 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Haha, someone that would do this (careful) to himself? Hell no! :D --Stevo 17:44, 23 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Just checking... and wondering if those guys actually have any redeeming qualities. Their sequel should be "Jackass: The Darwin Awards". <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 14:54, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

Was that you who made the "new archive" thing on the talk page template? That rocks! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:46, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Of course :) Glad you like it -- Stevo (talk) 07:42, 29 June 2007 (CDT)

category tech question
Can you rig a category so it drops the namespace part of an article title? Specifically, category:conservapedia is almost all "C"s because of the namespace prefix. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 21:16, 24 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm not Stevo, but it looks like the best we can do is set a sort key for the category; using will do what we want.  I've updated the  template to use that, and am going through the existing pages making the necessary adjustment. --<font face="Monaco,Consolas,Courier New,Courier,Fixed">jtl talk 21:35, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

user page
nice. <font color="#ddd">δαιισρΗ <font color="#ddd">ταλκ 10:14, 26 June 2007 (CDT)


 * But a bit 80s ? --Stevo (talk) 10:34, 26 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I actually thought of damien hirst (which is a good thing in my book). <font color="#ddd">δαιισρΗ <font color="#ddd">ταλκ 10:47, 26 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I have been educated. It has now been given a title. --Stevo (talk) 11:12, 26 June 2007 (CDT)


 * good title. <font color="#ddd">δαιισρΗ <font color="#ddd">ταλκ 11:23, 26 June 2007 (CDT)
 * But why Cornwall? CЯacke ® 12:53, 26 June 2007 (CDT)

Sysops on Wikipedia
I have no real problem with you removing SharonS and TimS's efforts as they were minimal but I originally posted them under Andy's puffery as they were obviously acting in concert with him. God's peed Babel fish<font color="#008888">ÅЯ†ђŮŖ ÐΣй† Now look here! 15:52, 26 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Thanks, well at first I thought they had far to big a mention since all their edits were rather trivial and there was nothing particularly remarkable about them adding to the Conservapedia article, which is why I cut down the amount of text on them and moved them to the bottom of the list. Then, while also being slightly squeamish about "attacking" minors in this way, I read the intro to the article again, which declares that the articl's about sysops that have caused trouble etc. on WP, so I felt that there wasn't a case for them being in there. --Stevo (talk) 17:42, 26 June 2007 (CDT)

As jtl has brought up the subject on Conservapedia Talk:Sysops on Wikipedia I've copied these comments over to continue the discussion there --Stevo (talk) 17:47, 26 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks!
...for categorizing. Have a goat! -<font color="#CC0000">α <font color="#FF0000">m <font color="#FF3300">ε <font color="#FF6600">σ g 09:03, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * No problem. I'm not much of a writer so I like to help in ways like this. -- Stevo (talk) 09:05, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

"I might tackle the other 4/5ths of the main page next!" Hey, Stevo, why not do it in a sandbox, so you can build the whole thing and tweak it til it's sweet? What we have isn't bad, but I'm not saying it couldn't be better/cooler/faster/have more goats. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 18:19, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Yeah might do that. I'm not trying to own it or anything, all I mean is that I'm obsessed with efficiency/cutting out repetition and I'd really like to clean up the templates namespace. So I think the other parts of the main page could work as articles too. -- Stevo (talk) 18:24, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * OK, then here's what to do - move the tmeplates to the RW article space. That way the history survives.  We can't really get rid of the content template because, well, it has a history.  And I would recommend waiting until Linus is around, in case the move screws up bigtime due to different namespaces, he might be able to repair it.  But creating articles to back up the main page won't get rid of the templates unless a move is done. Anyway, "template:" is a mess already, and will only get worse! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 18:31, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Hey, don't worry, I'd only make suggestions, and let a sysop do the actions (and take the blame :) ). I hadn't heard about problems when moving across namespaces - I'll see if I can find out anything more about that. -- Stevo (talk) 18:48, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * You have as much right as anyone to make changes. If someone doesn't like it, they'll revert, then we can figure out what to do.  I also don't know of any problems moving across namespaces, and we've done a lot of it (all the fun: and Recipe: moves, frex). --<font face="Monaco,Consolas,Courier New,Courier,Fixed">jtl talk 19:32, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * None of those changes were across... hmm, wait, yes. We moved from main to temp, then renamed temp.  So where did I read about problems with moving across namespaces?  Lets assume I'm wrong, since I'm not exactly a wiki-wizard.  I'd recommend a temporary mainpage made with no templates, then move the templates to RW and try it out on a sandbox version of the mainpage.  If it works, alter the dummy mainpage back to the new RW space sources.  Just my 0.02 in terms of keeping things running while you work.  And, I suppose jtl is right, we can fix anything that breaks.  Well, I am trusting that while I might have access to how to fix things, he knows how!
 * And, duh, to clear the template space, that content one can always be moved to RW as "copy of old featured contents file".
 * Oh, I remember where I read about the moving across thing. It was "somwhere" in the mediawiki instructions.  Don;t worry about my worries, jtl is savvier about the wiki software than I.  I = not; jtl = quite a bit. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:16, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Just from a quick search, was this what you had read? -- Stevo (talk) 20:26, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * No, it wasn't, but looked similar. Hey, you know what?  I'm sure what you want to do will work just fine.  Just let a sysop know when to delete the empty templates. Or when to restore the backup of RW ;) Don't let me slow you down. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:44, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Great Work!
Just want to congratulate you on this! 04:16, 2 July 2007 (CDT)


 * TVM, glad to help. Just say if you think of any improvements or anything (or do them yourself of course) -- Stevo (talk) 17:28, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Hey Stevo, quick question, when will the content be back "in" RationalWiki_talk:Community_Standards?
 * Oh, and nominated you to be demoted to sysop at RationalWiki:Requests for Sysop, I figure the extra tools would come in handy with the sort of thing you do so well here! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 15:22, 5 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Thanks for the nomination. I'm just taking some time to write a reply to you about the blocking, and then I'll get to sorting out community standards. -- Stevo (talk) 15:27, 5 July 2007 (CDT)


 * There seemed to be nothing on RationalWiki Talk:Community Standards that was recent/important so I've left it in the temporary archive with a link to it on the page. I'll sort out the rest of the stuff over the next couple of days. Hopefully we'll be able to put a block policy on the article page in that time! -- Stevo (talk) 16:00, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

ah, a reality check
Jeb is back... Special:Contributions/Jeb_Berkeley.

How about I let you do any cleanup needed, if he needs a block as a sysop? Or, I could make you one (with post-approval by others) so you can do it yourself? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 16:14, 5 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Sorry as a non-sysop I don't have the rollback tools. I wouldn't argue with being made a sysop, though wikiinterpreter seems to be handling it at the moment. -- Stevo (talk) 16:19, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Compared to Icewedge, this guy's rubbish. It's funny watching him get so cross! (and if he's a parody, he's laughing with us) --<font color="#000088">ויִ<font color="#220066">כִּ<font color="#550044"> נ<font color="#770022">תֶּ<font color="#aa0000">ר ֶפּ רֶ תֵּ ר  שְׁלֹום!
 * Definitely a C- for wandalism. Must try harder/see me. lies<font color="#808080">smoke mirrors 16:22, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, I shut him down for 8 hours for calling people "fags" and "faggots". Cleanup on aisle six, please, if any is required.  And feel free to discuss the block on his talk page, however you feel. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 16:25, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Although the sequence has been disrupted 8 hours seems about right so I can't disagree with that. -- Stevo (talk) 16:55, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

Demotion
Apparently, condolences are in order, as I have successfully demoted you to "sysop". You will now find a few extra buttons that are very useful in the right hands, such as "delete" and "block". I hope you use your awesome powers for gud and not evul! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:33, 5 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Damn well I guess you'll be seeing how I fare now! Just a warning that I'll be going to bed soon for if Jeb comes back. But thanks, and one question, what are all the exclamation marks that I now have on my recent changes list? -- Stevo (talk) 17:39, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Those are edits that no sysop has "marked as patrolled". Something we are a bit half-hearted about at this point, and should probably do more of.  If you go to one you'll see a link that says "mark as patrolled" - it means it isn't vandalism of some sort. PS, I'm sure you'll do very well. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:44, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Merci -- Stevo (talk) 17:45, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Pas de quoi. And, PS, as far as the "block user" links - I suggest you practice on some innocent RWers to get used to how it works.  The software is smart, if you enter "1 minute" it ends it on time. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 18:01, 5 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Thanks, I've just tried it out -- Stevo (talk) 06:33, 6 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I'd volunteer for testing, but I'm afraid I don't qualify as innocent. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:27, 6 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I don't like all these extra buttons at the top of the pages! I'm too scared of hitting the wrong one now :) -- Stevo (talk) 10:18, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
 * You'd better not hit the wrong one, or all manner of bureacratic whoopass will rain down on you :-) <font color="#0000cc">ДιЯɖі$ɧ  [[User_Talk:Airdish| <font color="#cccc00">

ɥοםЄʟ ]]<font color="#cccccc">βЯƏакĐΩωΝ 10:26, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
 * trembles -- Stevo (talk) 10:29, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
 * And remember, the Wiki software doesn't keep any history, so no changes you make can be undone. Be vewy vewy careful. --<font face="Monaco,Consolas,Courier New,Courier,Fixed">jtl talk 12:56, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Jeb link
Thanks for catching my error. I was fixing the links for conservatruth and was going to fast for my own good. Good catch! ollïegrïnd 10:11, 6 July 2007 (CDT)


 * No problem, it was a good idea to put the permanent links in as you did. Thanks! -- Stevo (talk) 10:13, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Good code monkey
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 * This user is here by awarded honorary sun god status, most likely for general awsomeness and/or preexisting divinity.


 * Feel special.

And, in general, means what? I hope to see your constructive contributions! !!! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 00:04, 7 July 2007 (CDT)

wtf?
"05:00, 7 July 2007, Stevo (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Stevo (contribs) (infinite, account creation blocked) (Bye)" (emphasis mine)

Say it ain't so, Joe. Or are you just on holiday? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 21:02, 12 July 2007 (CDT)