User talk:Fergus Mason

Greetings, Mr. Mason, and thank you for joining the  wiki! 20:20, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Terry's debate
If you would like space to talk about your adventures into wignuttia, I am sure Psy won't mind if I let you have space at his prestigious blog http://cpmonitor.wordpress.com/ -  π     22:40, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Very kind, thank you! --Fergus Mason (talk) 00:29, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Lest we be made to forget...
http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Walt_Brown&action=historysubmit&diff=949542&oldid=948125

Terry
I take my hat off to you. How you can debate that man without headdesking yourself to death is beyond me. I got as far as his simpler version "The stretching of space stretched time on earth. The accelerated spin curves of distant galaxies and clusters is like a video played in fast-forward mode" before I had to give up.

I couldn't help but laugh at his puerile "have you held dark matter?" argument. I swear, it's like dealing with a 6-year-old. -- PsyGremlin  14:31, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Broken clock is right twice a day
I look at your userpage. Is the broken clock James Wilson right??? Not that I care, but I'm curious. --Colonel Sanders (talk) 02:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ha ha. No. My user page is slightly sarcastic!--Fergus Mason Thruppence I got for selling my coat, tuppence for selling my blanket. If ever I 'list for a soldier again, the Devil shall be my Sergeant. 09:34, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Terry
Not sure if you're still on here, but good job trying to tear Terry a new one over at CNAV. The man's insistence that everybody opening fire in the cinema would be a good thing is utterly insane. --Psygremlin (talk) 15:36, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Isn't it just? He now has two former soldiers trying to explain to him why it would have led to disaster, but he just won't listen.--Fergus Mason Thruppence I got for selling my coat, tuppence for selling my blanket. If ever I 'list for a soldier again, the Devil shall be my Sergeant. 16:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What worries me is that he seems to be quite happy saying that anybody can have a gun and it's ok if they open fire, because the people will fire back. Which has happened never. I almost get the feeling he's happy to see people die, just so he doesn't have to register his firearm. This is the best part of Terry's craziness - when you get him in the comments section and keep pushing. Rather than back down and admit that a loathsome liberal has a point, he just gets crazier and crazier. --Psygremlin (talk) 12:27, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

You are my favorite editor
This isn't a mash note or anything, I just greatly admire your tenacity, depth of knowledge, tact, and skill in handling that deceitful shitcunt at CNAV. He stopped publishing my comments after I made it clear I wouldn't stand for him misrepresenting the law. He can pontificate on his unsupportable interpretations of the constitution and blather on and on about this christian-nation pseudo-history nonsense. I'll let Chris Rodda do her thing as to Barton, who's the real charlatan. Hurlbut is all substanceless assertions and it's clear enough he's a complete ignoramus. But I couldn't stand by and let him just flat out lie about what cases and statutes say. His pal Apuzzo pisses in his ear and it magically becomes "news." Because Hurlbut's the kind of zealot who will blithely repeat any old nonsense as long as it serves his broader ideological purpose. I enjoy watching you take him down a lot more than making my own piddling and infrequent contributions. Cheers. 02:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Personal information
Dude, too much information. please don't stalk about post contact details about others on RW. Acei9 01:35, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * What, you expected the guy who thinks homophobic slurs are the height of comedy to not be a slimey shithead? Llort (talk) 02:20, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Dunno. Who made homophobic slurs? Terry?--Fergus Mason Thruppence I got for selling my coat, tuppence for selling my blanket. If ever I 'list for a soldier again, the Devil shall be my Sergeant. 02:21, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't be dense. You even played the "I have x friends okay with me mocking x" card, favorite defense of the consummate slimeball. --Llort (talk) 02:29, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I am neither dense nor homophobic. Now fuck off, you boring twat.--Fergus Mason Thruppence I got for selling my coat, tuppence for selling my blanket. If ever I 'list for a soldier again, the Devil shall be my Sergeant. 02:32, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Top Work!
This is brilliant I congratulate you on managing to not get blocked immediately. The Invisible Man I spoke to Him   01:14, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey Sarge
How long has your feud with KD gone on for? It seems to be at least a year. Cpl(retired)--Patmac (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Dunno. Between a year and 18 months sounds about right. What were you in?--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 22:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Army Air Corps, 87 to 96--Patmac (talk) 22:50, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I trained some AAC recruits at ATR Winchester. I was green slime, 94-09. --Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 22:51, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Fuck, I hated that place, first went there as a 17 year old and thought that it looked very nice and civilized, how wrong I was. I hate it so much that even Middle Wallop was heaven in comparison. --Patmac (talk) 22:53, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I hated it while I was in basic, but when I got to Ashford for my A3 course I realised how lucky I'd been. Trade training at Ashford had a great atmosphere but the depot was so small and old that doing basic there was a nightmare. Of course that depends what Winchester was like when you were there. Was it the new ATR or the old Rifles barracks?--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 22:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

The new at abbots worthy, or wherever it was. It was called the Light Division Depot when I was there. Your Beret colour does rather promote the Homosexual Agenda, though not half as much as mine:)--Patmac (talk) 23:01, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the ATR. It was when I was in anyway. Fuck knows what it's called this week. Our berets were indeed pretty awful, at least when new. They eventually fade to a nicer colour, but usually somebody makes you exchange them before that happens. Having a flower on the cap badge was pretty depressing though. The number of times I got told it represented a pansy resting on its laurels...--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 23:05, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Your ultimatum to KD
I read it a while ago. Seems like he's crossed the line, do you plan on following through? Shakedangle (talk) 23:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No, and here's why; Viva isn't interested in the 15 questions or in having a debate about them. In fact Viva isn't even a creationist. He has an "open mind" about evolution, which obviously isn't a position I respect a lot, but he doesn't reject it. He thinks it could well be the right explanation but that there isn't enough evidence to say. In any case it's Ken I want to debate, not Viva, and Ken is too chicken. Until he grows a pair of balls his obsession with me is just generating free publicity. People will see my name, wonder who I am and Google me. Some of them may end up on Amazon buying my books, so it's all cool.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 02:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You should follow the advice on your own sig ;) Normally I wouldn't condone disseminating anyone's private information over the web, but Ken gets an exception. He's found a place where he can be the nastiest shit and not face any consequences, and I'd like to see him sweat turd juice just a little bit. Obviously it's your choice (FYI it is frowned upon in the community standards), but perhaps you could have your cake and eat it too; just offer to disclose the information privately to anyone who asks for it. It wouldn't matter if you followed up or not, it would be enough to let privacy-obsessed-Ken know that his information is possibly being slowly leaked.Shakedangle (talk) 14:46, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, we'll see. I've been too busy to give it much thought - and to be honest I was angrier at Creation.com for their blatant lies - but Ken may indeed have gone too far this time. If he is indeed "sweating turd juice" he can always nip across the street to the EZ Wash Laundry to get it out of his clothes.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 14:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha that's the spirit. Well, to get the ball rolling, I'd be lying if I didn't say I am at least curious. You can reach me at shakedangle@gmail.com. Again, no need for you to follow up. Shakedangle (talk) 15:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * He kind of lives in a dump, huh. Not that I can talk. Shakedangle (talk) 16:15, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Now if you put sneaky cap on you would notice the QE BlogSpot is in the domain .co.uk. Knowing our censorship laws there is a good chance if reported it may be taken down, just a thought--Patmac (talk) 20:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, I'm afraid I'm one sneak ahead of you there. It looks like it's .co.uk to you. To me it's .de. What happens is it shows you the horrible mess through your local Blogspot site.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 20:05, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

One question does remain though, When are you going to get of your cowardly arse and debate Vinyeshua? :)--Patmac (talk) 21:47, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * As soon as he becomes a creationist and develops an interest in Ken's stupid questions?--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 22:07, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * How would someone go about debating Viva Yeshua anyway? I've been to Schlock of God's chatroom dozens of times looking for Viva and, not only have I never seen him, but nobody knows when he'll show up or how to get in touch with him. I frankly think Ken's such a depraved liar that he's made up his counter to Fergus' claim that Viva's not interested in any of this and isn't the YEC Ken claims. Has anyone been contact with him? [[file:Nuttysig.svg|68px|link=User:Nutty Roux|Nutty Roux]]100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 18:03, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * He was banned from the chatroom about two months ago. He's also no longer responding to me on Skype; hasn't been for over a month, in fact.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 18:06, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * So, in other words, Ken is lying when he says that Viva Yeshua told him that he wanted to debate and that you backed out, or whatever his purported basis for claiming that you're not telling the truth is. Can you put me in touch with Viva please? You've got my email. [[file:Nuttysig.svg|68px|link=User:Nutty Roux|Nutty Roux]]100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 18:28, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. Viva told me several months ago that while he's willing to have a debate about evolution in general he doesn't like the 15 questions. He also classes himself as a sceptic about evolution, not as someone who doesn't accept it. He just thinks there isn't conclusive evidence yet. That may be why he doesn't want to discuss such blatant cretard wingnuttery as Ken's campaign.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 18:58, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Is there an way you would consider...
....not dragging RW into your little personal feud with a user at some other website, as you did here? If RW is ever to be something other than a second-rate troll site for people who enjoy cyberstalking the mentally ill, hosting "debates" between people of questionable emotional stability is probably not the best way to get there. Hugs and kisses, The bus came by/and I got on. 16:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, don't be so precious.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 16:03, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. The bus came by/and I got on.silverbrain.png 16:17, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 16:19, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I have sent you emails, please check your webmail inbox. Hclodge (talk) 07:50, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Vivayashua
Why will you still not debate Vivayashua in regards to the 15 questions of evolution ? Are you chicken ? Nеwton (talk) 11:53, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Because Viva isn't interested in having that debate. It's a bit late now anyway; the "15 questions" campaign is dead, the much-announced book by the Canadian lady author will never be written and apart from you nobody thinks the questions are worth bothering about.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 11:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Voter ID discussion on CNaV
I saw your comment to Terry over at CNaV about voter IDs being a reasonable thing, and thought I'd fill you in here since I can't post there.

Pretty much anyplace in the US that lets you vote wants to have some form of ID, but historically it's always been of the "are you the person you say you are, and do you live here" variety without being too high a standard. For example, in New Jersey and New York you could bring your drivers licence or birth certificate to show you are "John Smith", and then a phone or utility bill in the same name to show that you're a current resident of the voting district. Nowadays technology makes it cheaper to generate laminated photo IDs in seconds, so many people feel that asking someone to get an official govt photo ID is not a burden.

Here's the catch, though. Republicans in the US have been crafting laws along the line of what Terry mentions, "six points of ID" and all that. The GOP lawmakers cherry-pick what counts as legitimate ID, and the rules tend to weed out young people, urban minorities, and women. For example, in Texas a gun license is a valid ID but a laminated student or teacher photo-ID from a university isn't. Drivers licenses are okay because most suburban voters are Republican, but in dense cities that vote Democratic, most people don't drive. Women can vote, but if you get married all your prior IDs become invalid unless you take the time to change the legal name to your married name on every one of them.

The voter ID laws pushed by the GOP don't grandfather you in if you've been a voter, and in states like Pennsylvania they threw tens of thousands of prior voters off the polls, forcing them to have to re-qualify. Then the other part kicks in. The days and hours you can go to a government office to get a legal ID are limited to Mon-Fr, 9-5, and in some cases even less often. The low-earning hourly workers likely to vote Democratic can't afford to take time off of work to get an ID, and get filtered out. If you google a bit you'll also see stories of GOP leaders and operatives in these states caught admitting that the actual goal is to skew the eligible voting pool Republican.

Here's the real catch, though. All of these laws are intended to prevent in-person voter fraud. It doesn't matter how many dead people are still on the registries or whether you've moved or not, as long as you can show that the people showing up are who they are and that they're voting in the right location. Several of the states passing these laws have not been able to come up with a single proven case of fraud, not even one, when called into court to do it. Statistically across the USA it occurs at a rate too insignificant to overturn a local race for dogcatcher let alone a major race. This is about disenfranchising targeted classes of voters (women, young people and urban minorities) to prevent a hypothetical problem that has never been shown to exist anywhere). The answer from Terry and the GOP has been "why are you against showing an ID at the polls?", but they leave out how hard  they're making it to get the "right" ID (pun intended).

Pardon the ramble, it's just a topic I take seriously. I've challenged people like Terry to show proven cases of in-person fraud that justify the kind of "double bar coded photo ID" they want to inflict on people. They always come up empty and fall back on hypotheticals instead.

-DinsdaleP (talk) 18:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm aware that there's a lot of controversy over the way the principle of voter ID is being manipulated to exclude demographics that are likely to vote Democratic, and that there's a racial element as well. The racial issue is why I've been prodding at him about felons being disenfranchised for life, too; the USA jails a ridiculous proportion of the population and I'm aware that the justice system is far from colour-blind.


 * Personally I consider myself to be a right-wing libertarian, but obviously that's by global standards, not US ones. My other half is a US leftie, and as long as you keep her away from the topic of wimmin's stuff she's not all that far off where I am myself. It's all fucked up.--Fergus Mason If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. - Anton Chekov 01:04, 15 May 2014 (UTC)