Forum:Bruce Greyson new info found

Hi I already posted this in the Bruce Greyson web-page but it was deleted because it was inconsistent. Here is the rundown what I found and someone could add it if he knows how it would make sense:

In the book Irreducible Mind. The authors of the book are reviving a 20th century old form of dualism. The main goal of Irreducible Mind is to propose the theory of Frederic W.H. Myers William James who both were deeply studying psychical phenomena and religion. Its not suprising that the name William James pops up because William James is a central figure in Transpersonal psychology which is full of woo and New Age stuff. The same goes for Frederic W.H. Myers who also helped to develop Transpersonal psychology teachings.

Here are the link to the above written:

http://www.hoje.org.br/site/arq/artigos/Kelly_book_review_JNMD08.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpersonal_psychology http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Research/Chapter_1_Introduction_to_Transpersonal_Psychology.pdf

Bruce Greyson is also one of the first members of International Association of Near-Death Studies which continues the work of Raymond Moody:

http://iands.org/about-iands/history.html#founders-page

Bruce Greyson as a follower of Raymond Moody, believes that the mind is not created by the brain or other stuff that can be considered woo like memories of past lives like is written in his abstract in the Conference " Cosmology and Consciousness: A Dialog Between Buddhist Scholars and Scientists on Mind and Matter" in Dharamsala, India, where he was talking about "Is Consciousness Produced by the Brain? This happened in December 16-18, 2011:

http://www.medicine.virginia.edu/clinical/departments/psychiatry/sections/cspp/dops/Bruce%20in%20India3.pdf

Dr. Greyson is also associated with a woo organization called Esalen Institute where he had a conference about his book Irreducible Minds, Pam Reynolds NDE and other woo stuff in the years 1998 till 2010:

http://www.esalen.org/sites/default/files/resource_attachments/Esalen-CTR-Pioneering-Cultural-Initiatives.pdf

Dr. Steven Novella a known neuroscientist and skeptic disagrees with Dr. Greyson on the matters of Near Death Experience and Dr. Steven Novella is saying that Dr. Greyson is engaging in motivated reasoning:

http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptiko-podcast/2495-steve-novella-dr-bruce-greyson-ndes.html

The whole criticism of Dr. Greyson is on the The Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe podcast of October 15th, 2011 where Dr. Steven Novella is claiming thanks to the conclusions that Dr. Greyson drew from Near-Death Experiences that Dr. Greyson has a agenda. It about him at 10:00 our around that in the podcast:

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/podcast/sgu/326

Dr. Greyson also works on Kundalini and the Kundalini syndrome where he has developed a The Physio-Kundalini Syndrome Index. The Kundalini syndrome is a fringe theory and a part of transpersonal psychology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_syndrome

Also here Dr. Bruce Greyson is talking about some more woo stuff - which many have been already debunked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_qBIw7qyHU

Also he worked on Terminal lucidity- this has been debunked:

http://deanradin.com/evidence/Nahm2011.pdf http://www.newdualism.org/nde-papers/Nahm/Nahm-The%20Journal%20of%20Nervous%20and%20Mental%20Disease_2009-197-942-944.pdf

Also he works in a woo division based by Ian Stevenson:

As founder and director of the university's Division of Perceptual Studies, which investigates the paranormal, Stevenson became known internationally for his research into reincarnation, the idea that emotions, memories, and even physical injuries in the form of birthmarks, can be transferred from one life to another.[2]

Its from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stevenson

Also his answer about a OBE study is really woo: That when someone triggered in a woman a OBE thanks to electrical stimuli. He responded:

"We cannot assume from the fact that electrical stimulation of the brain can induce OBE-like illusions that all OBEs are therefore illusions," replied University of Virginia neurologist Dr. Bruce Greyson.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers07.html

This is all skeptical information I have so far found out about this guy. If someone could add it into the article it would be great. Thanks..
 * what's stopping you adding it? Sophie  Wilder silverbrain.png 10:58, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I would like to but the last time I did. It was deleted because it was incoherent in places. I would like if someone would help me with it to make it coherent. Shen-Du 13:21, 9.8.2013.
 * The article's talk page is the best place to discuss things like this. Sophie  Wilder silverbrain.png 19:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice Sophie Wilder.. I will then try to write it to make sense and see what will pop out of it. Thanks you very much because I am new here I am not well known how to write these things because I mostly write responses on skeptical forums. Thanks a lot. - Shen-Du 10.8. 2013, 10:15