Talk:Kathleen Stock

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Is she known for anything besides transphobia? Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 16:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * She's one of the more prominent and independently notable figures in the UK's "gender-critical" movement. She had an actual academic career before falling down the anti-trans rabbit hole, and since going all-in she's become something of a general anti-"woke" crank. She published a piece in the Telegraph defending conversion therapy only an hour ago. Nope Rocket (talk) 19:47, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Some stuff that could potentially be added: criticism of her book, accusations that she retaliated against and damaged the careers of fledgling academics critical of her, the controversy surrounding the awarding of an OBE to her for "services to education" despite reportedly not having a particularly long or distinguished career in her actual field (although she did actually do things before transphobia). Nope Rocket (talk) 19:59, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Her academic career prior to the anti-trans stuff (circa 2018) involved philosophy of fictional works or something. Maybe worth a mention, who knows. Here's a list of her academic stuff: https://philpeople.org/profiles/kathleen-stock Chillpilled (talk) 22:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I might've missed the mark with the above comment. I drew from Wikipedia when writing the RW articles on Kathleen Stock and Helen Joyce. To be honest, I found that Joyce's professional history made for a more interesting read than Stock's, and it seemed a bit more missional and easier to work into the framework of her article. But it would be a good idea to have a section giving an overview of Stock's academic career (i.e. her publications, appointments, etc.). Maybe a more fine-grained analysis if anyone with a better knowledge of her field wants to dive into reading her pre-transphobia stuff. Has she always been a contrarian? Does some of the binary and absolutist thinking that comes up in her takes on trans issues also crop up in her work on aesthetics and literary analysis? I feel like exploring these questions could provide context for her career shift to professional transphobia. Nope Rocket (talk) 02:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Isn't it good to be gender critical? I mean the word was used interchangeably with sex until the activists hijacked it. The exception to that use was when it related to behaviour or 'roles' stereotyped to sex. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 86.180.141.219

Hey so
Apparently she felt the need to defend Kate Forbes, a candidate to run an entire country, from criticism for her anti-gay and anti-abortion Christian stances: https://unherd.com/2023/02/the-crucifixion-of-kate-forbes/ (though actually the article doesn't seem to mention the abortion thing directly). I only skimmed the darn thing, but wow. The LGB Alliance was out here doing the same thing... they must REALLY want an anti-trans candidate to replace Sturgeon if they're going to these lengths, out in the open. Chillpilled (talk) 21:34, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * This could be used to build "Very fine people on both sides..." into an actual section. TERFs often seem willing to form unholy alliances with ring-wing ideologues and religious fundamentalists. And Stock, unlike Helen Joyce, is a self-identified feminist. She's willing to further imperil the right to choose, a key feminist victory and principle, in the name of transphobia. (Something I still can't comprehend as a cis feminist.) Nope Rocket (talk) 04:15, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Abortion
Tossing this in here. Refers to feminists as "reproductive extremists": https://archive.ph/OfjtW Chillpilled (talk) 08:28, 30 June 2023 (UTC)