RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/TFLism

TFLism | Result: Move to draft

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Delete

 * 1) Unlikely stub of dated manosphere term with a couple degrees too much charity for the concept ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep

 * 1) Give me some suggestions to change it and I will do it. Riptohelsinway (talk) 22:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * That's fair. But I had a hard time imagining what those changes could be, which is why I proposed deletion.  My biggest problems really are that it's a dead, almost never used term and the whole thing suits the Manosphere Glossary better.  But also if it could be rewritten to give less credence to groups self-identifying as oppressed due to being lonely, it would be better.  And definitely include less suspect etymology.  But even then, I feel like it's not really appropriate as a separate article, no lasting value.  ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I've given it a shot. Riptohelsinway (talk) 23:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

 * 1) I think we should make it part of Incel. It's a pretty significant overlap, and even the two terms, TFL and incel are very alike. 03:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * they're a bit different. TFL is mostly populated by ethnic minorities, particularly blacks as a Youtube search of "tue forced loneliness" shows. Secondly, TFL seems less focused on sex and more on relationships. Incel discussions seem a bit more clinical whilst TFL discussions seem a bit more interpersonal. The third difference is that TFL exists solely on youtube, whereas incels are all over the place. Riptohelsinway (talk) 04:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Merge would be better as per LGM. Bongolian (talk) 18:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Goat
Move it to draftspace until it's better, then it could be put in the manosphere dictionary. Don't think it should be its own page, though. 23:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)