Talk:Paleo diet

Preamble
In the preamble to this page there seem to be a couple of odd claims about the paleo community.

First there is the claim that there is a ""religious", highly "pop" category which emphasizes the "ancient way of life"" (what are all these speech marks in aid of?). Now, I grant that it is true that paleos themselves often criticise 'paleo re-enactment' but I think you'll find it quite impossible to actually find anyone who actually defends mimicking the "ancient way of life." It's really a strawman that everyone in the paleo community distances themselves from, that exists only in the popular imagination. Of course I can't provide a reference for this negative claim; the only way would be to look through all the main paleo sources and note the stark absence of any-one really emphasising the "ancient way of life."

The second odd claim is that this first group is "emphatically low carb", in contrast to the group that "de-emphasizes the importance of this being the "way of our ancestors", especially where those views are based on bad anthropology, and [advocates?] other more "medically acceptable" changes to the diet." Now, I've already questioned whether there is a first group, who emphasise the "way of our ancestors" but if we look at the group that most vociferously deny that we should re-enact "the way of our ancestors" and which favours making changes based on science to optimise health, rather than recreating paleo lifestyles (e.g. Kurt Harris, 'paleo 2.0' etc.) then you find a group that has been more in favour of low carb, than traditional (e.g. Cordain style) paleo.

We've pissed at least one person off
Jubilations! 17:22, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Claim that 2500 kcal of Whole Wheat will have more protein than 1 and a half pounds of beef steak
There is something that may be a little misleading about Citation number 40. It says that 2500kcal of whole wheat has more protein than 1 and a half pounds of beef steak.

Reading that someone may get the impression that whole wheat has more protein than beef. However, 100 grams of whole wheat will have 333 calories and 12 grams of protein. 100 grams of beef will have 250 calories and 26 grams of protein.

The citation for that statement is simply a listing of the nutrition breakdown of wheat. And based on 2500 kcal, beef still has more protein per calorie than whole wheat.

Another problem with the paleo diet
Not only have the various plants and animals in common consumption 'been evolved' (not least because humans want the versions that are most nutritious/tasty and also involve less work) but we humans have evolved over the last few thousand years. 86.146.100.82 (talk) 13:45, 23 March 2017 (UTC) Anyone else think something is wrong?
 * I think the article's trying to say that eating a lot of wheat is comparable to eating a lot of (but a smaller amount of) meat. 02:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Oxymoron
Surely 'The "paleo diet", like most diets, has evolved over time and has many variants.' has an oxymoronic component? Anna Livia (talk) 18:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Cream is animal fat
This article states that Paleo 2.0 would use cream as a close analog of animal fat. But cream is animal fat, because it is derived from animals.

LessWrong
Someone more familiar with LessWrong than me should probably write about how popular paleo is there in discussions of what its members should eat. (Totally not a cult, by the way.) - Linneris (talk) 10:50, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Seriously? They are into Paleo? Amazing.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 16:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)