Essay talk:BadPoem:First they came for...

God?
When I first read this I actually chuckled a bit. I think it is a pretty well written poem with some subtle humor (although I'm not quite sure it is 100% intentional). However, I'm not sure why people taking away my stuff would make me believe in God. ollïegrïnd 08:43, 3 July 2007 (CDT)
 * If you believe in God then "they" cannot take Her away from you since She only lives inside your head. They could take you head but then you wouldn't know it since a deadhead is....dead. CЯacke ® 09:17, 3 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, if the gift from God (creation, love, your life, etc.) doesn't do the trick, maybe being drprived of a Mac and an iPhone might.
 * The "God" part is a non-sequitur, and has nothing to do with the preceding lines. If it ended "private property rights" it might be stronger, especially without the "Soviet style" thing half way through.  I may write a rewrite of it ;) human be in 18:25, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Private property rights, as do all legitimate rights, come from God. Legitimate rights can be protected with force, and this confuses most liberals to believe that any "right" defended by the force of government is legitimate. Even so, I do agree that the ending could be better, or the whole premise better presented.  It will have to do for now.  Heart  ♥  Gold tx 00:36, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * HG, I must be one of those confused liberals because your arguments do not make any sense. You continue to lump all liberals (or just most liberals in this case) into one group of retarded 7th graders who can't figure anything out. ollïegrïnd  06:45, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Private property rights come from God? Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on that? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 07:20, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

Origin
Holocaust poems don't exactly seem like the ideal thing to parody. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Martin_Niemoeller.jpg
 * Please fix the link, Rob, ain't workin' for me.--PalMD-Goatspeed! 09:29, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

The ever considerate & sensitive Christian TK thinks that Niemoeller bloke is a fine example of Liberal's non-actions throughout history! WhatIsG0ing0n 10:01, 3 July 2007 (CDT)


 * No offense meant to victims of the holocaust and their relations. The point is to make you think, not to make fun of other victims.  Also, you people really should speak with some older Chinese.  They went through the consequences of the actions described in this "peom," and I think a few more died as a consequence, not that numbers matter.  That you don't know about it probably has more to deal with the fact that Chinese look less like occidentals than enthic jews, and the widespread belief that taking property is fair, equitable, and has no disasterous consequences (consequences like millions of dead chinese).  Heart  ♥  Gold tx 10:26, 3 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Hey Heart, why not add a quick "apologies (or thanks) to Martin Niemeoller", with a link to the original, at the end? Just a thought.  I kind of expected to see it. human be in 13:20, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

So the moral of the story is that all liberals and moderates are evil genocidal communists? 10 for demonizing! (No, let's make that an A+, since those godless European communists use a 10.) MiddleMan 10:30, 3 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Correct the article on Ann Coulter and then get back to me on demonizing. Heart  ♥  Gold tx 10:37, 3 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I demonized one person, who's attempts at verbal communication are quite clear, she doesn't insinuate anything, she bluntly admits she wants people to die, and murder (no, not the expression of love that you call "sodomy") is the greatest crime of all (well not in Iran or Pakistan, or America if it were up to Ann Coulter.)

MiddleMan 10:45, 3 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Ann Coulter's whole schtick is demonizing liberals. What's she got, aside from "Liberals are EVIL SUBHUMAN TRAITORS WHO SHOULD BE KILLED!!!!11!!one!"?  If you replace "Liberal" with "Jew" in her screeds, she comes across like Hitler with a smaller vocabulary. --Gulik 12:12, 3 July 2007 (CDT)


 * What's she got, aside from "Liberals are EVIL SUBHUMAN TRAITORS WHO SHOULD BE KILLED!!!!11!!one!"? What is the last book of hers you have read?  Heart  ♥  Gold tx 23:54, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
 * ISTR I took a look through Treason a while back.  Now, what's the last book by Al Franken you've read, oh Avatar of Openmindedness and Fairness? --Gulik 00:06, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I *bought*, read (in its entirety), and then donated to a liberal aunt Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, and then borrowed from the library the much less well written, less well researched, and less funny The Truth (with jokes). Treason is well reasoned and documented.  Most liberals suffer from the same problem while reading Coulter as most conservatives do when watching "Natural Born Killers."  Liberals cannot see a valid point through the (well deserved) slurs, and conservatives cannot recognize a (lessor) work of art in the midst of gratuitous violence.  They "opt out" at the first opportunity.  Heart  ♥  Gold tx 00:13, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Nice to see you're reading outside your reality-tunnel. Always a good way to avoid Hardening of the Orthodoxies.  However, you then say THIS....
 * Treason is well reasoned and documented
 * Oooookay, now I'm confused. We're talking about the Earth-One Ann Coulter here, right?  Not her evil twin from the Antimatter Universe who writes scholarly texts proving with SCIENCE! why all Liberals should be rendered down for SUV fuel?  Just trying to make sure, because if so, the above statement is so far from true that teh light from True won't reach it for six billion years.
 * Liberals cannot see a valid point through the (well deserved) slurs
 * Uh....huh. What "valid point" would that be? And what, exactly, did the Great Liberal Hivemind do to Ann to deserve her nonstop barrage of smear?  We've got a page for her, so feel free to start justifying away... --Gulik 02:46, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

A while a ago I found a similar quiz about Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Osama Bin Laden, and with some of those quotes I really didn't know which one of them said it. MiddleMan 12:40, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

"And rationed electricity for my McIntosh"
Think that's a reference to me. --Linus (plot evil tech) 16:22, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Since when do apples need electricity, anyway? --jtl talk 18:19, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Is that a real quote? 'Cause they're both spelled "MacIntosh".  Sheesh. human be in 18:22, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * And the computers don't have the interior caps -- they're just Macintoshes. --jtl talk 19:10, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Are you saying Apples don;t have shift keys? Wow... how about the interior pips? Stems and seeds? human be in 19:19, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * The first Apple computer I had had a shift key, but NO LOWERCASE LETTERS, ONLY UPPERCASE. But you could solder a connector from the shift key to the joystick port, so the shift key would show up as one of the joystick buttons, and replace the character set ROM with an alternate that had lower case, and some software could use it then.  And if you're not careful I'll start rambling about memory and disk space. --jtl talk 19:26, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, as a known Mac loyalist, I assume that the line refers to me, regardless of how misspelled :). --Linus (plot evil tech) 19:39, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * My partner (medical, not life) is a Mac junkie, as am I, and he shelled out the bucks for an iPhone, and it ROX! Also, I owned a mac before Linus was born, which is very depressing to me, and makes me want to be a young geek again.--PalMD-Goatspeed! 19:42, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I still don't have a cell phone, but the iPhone sure is tempting. I'm hoping they'll do a 100 or 120gig iPod with the non-phone iPhone features soon, instead, though. --jtl talk 19:52, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

renaming?
You realize you moved it into the mainspace, right? Now it will come up "randomly", and can be edited by anyone. I suspect it should be back in "essay", although, yes, I know, it's not an essay, it is a one author piece that should not be in the mainspace. By the way, check the poetry cat, I did a rewrite. I left "God" out, though, since all it was about was material crap. I think you lose a lot of readers by suddenly throwing religion in at the end. But, hey, it's your "bad poem".

Anyway, please seriously consider moving it back to Essay. Hope getting back to real life after your vacation is treating you well! human be in 00:46, 11 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I don't care if others destroy the work of art. Thanks for your other kind comments.  Heart  ♥  Gold tx 10:14, 12 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Don't you remember your Bible, Human? Jesus specifically says that rich people are blessed over all others.
 * Oh, wait... that wasn't Jesus, that was Jeezus. --Gulik 14:05, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

PFox on Martin Niemoller and the Lunatic-Vanguard of the Right
[http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/849 Interesting article. I bet Heart won't read it.]
 * Just read it. Unlike liberals, I actually have an open mind.  What was the last Ann Coulter book you read?   21:25, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
 * The one where she looked really hot on the jacket User:DocSock

Essay it or delete it?
What say the mob? 19:10, 28 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Essay. Deleting a semi-coherent single user piece would be rude. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 19:28, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

Parody of
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists Commie Lib (talk) 22:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Or https://halfmanhalfbiscuit.uk/four-lads-who-shook-the-wirral-1998/turn-blind-eye/ ? Mr Larrington (talk) 17:44, 5 October 2022 (UTC)