Talk:Science and religion

Science vs God
I don't understand this paragraph. What's the problem in God not being subject to the scientific method? The paragraph claims that this is a contradiction, but for me it is only the paragraph itself that falls into contradiction (first stating that God may be "outside" science, but then invoking the scientific method). But I aknowledge that I am not very bright when abstract concepts are concerned. Editor at CPfor a change 05:57, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I agree. This paragraph is kind of nonsensical in that niether Christians nor scientists claim that God is a scientific topic.  Rational Ed faith 10:36, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I thought some (confused?) Christians do claim that their God is scientifically provable, etc.? human  12:13, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
 * You are probably right, human, but should we take that rather small minority seriously? I think the more common argument is that belief in God is rational and logical.  Rational Ed faith 12:16, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmmm, but wouldn't they then conflate that with "scientific"? And I don't take the "rational and logical" claim seriously either, but that's just me. And you're right about the oxymoronic mature of that section.  Trying to rewrite as I fix some typos. human  12:51, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
 * No, I believe "logical" and "rational" are a rather small subset of "scientific".  Rational Ed faith

Sorry, Folks, but this paragraph not only makes perfect sense, but also happens to address what is perhaps the most fundamental aspect for the underlying premise of RatiionalWiki. In particular, it appeals to me, for it points out my peculiar personal position: technically agnostic due to certain logical dictates, but with every suspicion that the atheist position is correct, however inaccessible is a definitive answer to this ultimate question. If you're confused about what this paragraph concerns, check out Stephen Gould's "magisteria" argument; mind you, I don't agree with Gould's split-the-difference conclusion, for I think he's too easy on religion, but he elucidates this vital question well. JOKERMAN

Science and religion
What is the point of this article? I'm not saying it should be dumped or anything, i just dont' get what we are trying to do with it. "science and religion represent two ways of looking at teh world". that's like totally just nonsense for an opening. suggestions on what we want to be looking at here?Godot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans  00:21, 2 January 2013 (UTC)