Talk:Medicare

"The use of the word men is telling"
No, it's telling only of a widely accepted English norm. I'm sorry grammatical gender is a distinct concept from biological gender, but I'm not. 06:55, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Um, I don't see how grammatical gender is relevant here. If anything, it's a matter of different possible meanings. And though "man" is still relatively often used to refer to humans in general, using "men" in this manner seems a bit archaic. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 07:27, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * As someone who was around in the 60's - there is nothing 'telling' in the use of the word 'men'. 08:51, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I've amended 'our' allies to 'his' allies - not everyone here is a Yank. Doxys Midnight Runner (talk) 08:52, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for amending the allies thing, you are absolutely right on that. My bad.  As for the other, yeah, I'll grant that in the '60s, that kind of speech wouldn't have been archaic like today.  I'm good with little bit of snark being removed.  Researcher (talk) 09:40, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Medicaid
Medicaid is unequivocally the worst healthcare system in the developed world, so why is it being celebrated as a lifeline to the poor? I, as a pastor, live below the poverty line technically, but there is undeniable proof that the health results of Medicaid are no better than those with poor people who have no insurance. Therefore, trillions of taxpayer dollars are being spent to no avail. --William Grimes (talk) 16:07, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Apparently Medicaid in my state will cover “cross-sex hormones” for sinful transvestites but not acid reflux medication in my state. Is that not messed up?! --William Grimes (talk) 15:29, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It is messed up that it does not cover acid reflux medication, but I don't see why you needed to bring up transvestites. Also, for your information, a transvestite is different to a person who is transsexual or transgender. CowHouse (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it is important to consider that Obamacare has raised health insurance premiums tremendously, and in doing so has forced more Americans than ever in the Medicaid program, which is objectively the worst health care program in the developed world. The fact that they will pay for enabling a lifestyle of sinful delusions regardless of whatever you want to call it, but will not treat legitimate medical conditions shows how liberal Obamacare has its priorities way out of whack. It is also true that pumping men with estrogen tremendously increases the chance for heart disease, diabetes, obesity, and other conditions, and proves how inefficient government and the liberal agenda is. --William Grimes (talk) 16:00, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * So are you saying that a single-payer healthcare system would be better, since that's very common in the developed world? Nobody "pumps men with estrogen" anyway. L̤̈ÿ̤n̤̈n̤̈R̤̈ (̈ẗ̤ä̤l̤̈k̤̈)̈ (̈c̤̈ö̤n̤̈ẗ̤r̤̈ï̤b̤̈s̤̈)̈ @ 16:36, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * All government run healthcare programs have shown to be total failures, but Medicaid is of course by far the worst offender, and the main thing that Obamacare accomplished was kicking people off better private programs and onto the subpar Medicaid program. While we indeed are pumping men full of estrogen in this country. Isn’t that what the liberal ideology of Transgenderism is all about? We’ve made men so effeminate through the feminist movement and by suppressing boys with Ritalin as the public schools treat boys like defective girls. Therefore, men now think they are women and seek to engage in experimental medical prosecutes that are detrimental to physical and mental health. We need to treat our mentally ill far better in this country, and RINOs like McCain who voted against repealing the Obamacare monstrosity aren’t helping. --William Grimes (talk) 17:27, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hold up "Transgenderism"? Where did you get that particular snarl word? GrammarCommie (talk) 17:37, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've ever seen a paragraph with more inaccuracies. I seriously hope you're either a troll or too young to vote. L̤̈ÿ̤n̤̈n̤̈R̤̈ (̈ẗ̤ä̤l̤̈k̤̈)̈ (̈c̤̈ö̤n̤̈ẗ̤r̤̈ï̤b̤̈s̤̈)̈ @ 19:43, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

It is quite obvious that Transgenderism is appropriate because it’s a religious conviction as well as something that is a demonstrably false religion, just like Islam or Wicca. It involves a war on biology, a war on common sense, as well as promotion of nastiness. It’s quite clear that anyone who disagrees with the truth are just enablers, and that includes the very low quality Medicaid programs. Anyone who thinks that hormone abuse is harmless should be re-educated by real men of the Living God who created all as it is. You simply cannot exercise veto power over Him. --Elvis is King (talk) 20:06, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh boy. You should not have mentioned biology there, because you are about to get pwned. Regardless of whether you're a troll, maybe this will educate some other transphobe. Studies and actual cases of attempting to instill transsexualism in children have overwhelmingly shown that transgender identity is based on brain structure and related biological components, not learning or conversion.


 * https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/
 * https://doi.org/10.4158%2FEP14351.RA
 * http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(07)01228-9/fulltext
 * http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/12/us/david-reimer-38-subject-of-the-john-joan-case.html
 * http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/10/27/2401941.htm
 * https://doi.org/10.1080%2F15532739.2013.750222
 * https://www.nature.com/articles/378068a0
 * http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811909003176?via%3Dihub
 * , I'd love to see you demonstrate that transgender people have a "demonstrably false religion", as based on what you've posted, it should be easy. 18:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It is quite simple, sir. Please consider that gender is assigned by God in the womb, and there are only male and female (Genesis 1:27) and that is simply all that really exists. The Cult of Transgender tends to force those who even have the slightest inclination they are something other than what God made them, they suck them in. Then they lobbied the psychological institutions to push so-called "transitioning" as the ONLY remedy for gender confusion, which is caused by the fluoride and the birth control hormones in the water. When people realized they have made a mistake, they seek to undo the bodily mutilation they were indoctrinated to undergo and the Cult of Transgender shames and rebukes them and ignores their existence so the mental health professionals they lobbied continue to go ahead and push teenagers on hormones. Also of note is that most Transgenderism in men is caused by autogynephilia as well as social rejection, and can be the result of a co-morbid disorder such as autism, which is caused by the mercury in vaccinations that kids are pushed on at such an early age. So-called Transgendered folks have a suicide rate of 41 percent, and sex changes only increase this rate. We need to treat the mentally ill far better than we do, but the liberals keep on pushing this ideology that you can exercise veto power over the will of God because mere man thinks he IS God nowadays. What a shame, really. --Elvis is King (talk) 20:35, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * lol 20:38, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * TL;DR: ”Transgenderism” is wrong because the Bible says so and is caused by fluoride in the water but also autism which is caused by vaccines. You have GOT to be a troll. Christopher (talk) 20:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * also, this is a red herring. none of this has anything to do with medicare. 20:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Even if it did I fail to see how someone's personal medical regime is anyone's business other than that individual, their doctor, and select friends and family. Comrade GC (talk) 20:55, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Time to end this crap. EiK has a bee in his bonnet about trans people, and goes on endlessly about the subject. this instance of it can be safely stopped. Totnes Bicycle 21:02, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it has to do with Medicaid because Medicaid covered this sort of hormone abuse without covering my pastor's acid reflux meds, which shows the priorities that exist in the liberal ObamaCare law, particularly where it concerns Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare, or any other government funded insurance program. What happened to psycotherapy? Let's chop a transabled guy's arms off and have the taxpayers pay for a liposuction for an anorexic teen girl. See how ridiculous this all is? Not only that, you brought that censorship "trolltop" garbage back because the substantive facts are clearly on my side. --Elvis is King (talk) 21:14, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * continue rambling about this off-tangent and you'll get another ban. 21:29, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * . I shouldn't have even made that post, but I have to admit that it felt really good to smack this guy down with the facts, even though he's obviously a troll. 00:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)