User talk:DuceMoosolini

Fictional persons biography
Am I allowed to make one? I ask right now because I don't want anyone to be confused when I make it thinking it's an actual person. Rational Dude (talk) 17:54, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Not in mainspace, no. Leave it in essayspace or userspace, and don't add any categories meant for mainspace. Additionally, your obsession is getting a bit concerning. Plutocow (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess I went too far. But I can't help it. Rational Dude (talk) 19:32, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Fascism
Wouldn't Iran qualify being categorized as fascist like India since it's going through far-right growing pains? Rational Dude (talk) 02:55, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Iran isn’t a fascist regime, and there’s no sign of it becoming one. And if there were, there would need to be a section in the article explaining the inclusion of the fascism category. 04:09, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay. But does India qualify being categorized as fascist since it's dealing with hindutva right now, or not really? Rational Dude (talk) 07:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I would say no. India is not overall a fascist regime. It just has fascist movements. 01:00, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I see. I guess I was confusing movements with the regime. Rational Dude (talk) 00:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Board nomination
(as per Cosmikdebris) Bongolian (talk) 18:03, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Zoroastrianism
I think we should bring up the subject of changing religious demographics in Iran, like the possible resurgence of Zoroastrianism. Here's an article about it:https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2021/01/21/disenchanted-iranians-are-turning-to-other-faiths Rational Dude (talk) 12:16, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Shinzo Abe
I think he's an obvious fascist. He is an advocate of the Japanese Empire and totalitarianism in the 1930s, and a denier of Japanese war crimes. Even ordinary modern far-right politicians like Trump and Bolsonaro are not the deniers of Nazi advocacy or German war crimes. Abe is more extreme than Trump. Umaru16 (talk) 12:08, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, but one can cover for the crimes of a regime without being a member of its ideology. US Republicans aren't actual Confederates, after all. Abe lacks the senseless rush to military expansionism and horrific purges for internal purification that typify a fascist regime. 01:02, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Running with that logic we couldn’t reasonably conclude holocaust denialists are neo-nazis. Like sure it doesn’t follow that such a denialist must be ideologically a neo-nazi. It wouldn’t be a deductively valid inference. Reasoning probabilistically however, and being aware of the historical and political motivations behind genocide denial — one could reasonably make the inference to a denialist being highly likely a neo-fascist. - Only Sort of Dumb (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Also it should be said in reference to that particular style of rhetoric “fascists were expansionist!” —- that is an argument that far-right neo-nazi movements and the like use. The alt-right used to deny being “nazis” on the basis that they were “isolationist”. Its a distinction without a difference. With the historical context of things like “Unit 731” the Japanese denial of war crimes at least suggests a morally abhorrent form of apologia for 20th-century fascist Japan. In my book non-fascists do not willing engage in apologia for fascists, which allows a deductive inference to someone being a fascist.  I don’t think people of Chinese or Korean descent particularly care about the technicalities in this case. Japan performed live vivisections on children. - Only Sort of Dumb (talk) 17:00, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Bro, I am of Chinese descent. I just think if Abe were a genuine fascist, we'd have seen far more extreme actions coming out of his government. I've written more about Japanese atrocities and Abe's denial of them than almost anyone else on this wiki. 18:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That does not necessarily follow though, right? You can secretly hold fascist beliefs or sympathies without implementing extreme policies in government for strategic reasons, reasons related to public relations, or even simply reasons related to maintaining international trade deals, etc. If we are going to run with some strict logical implications in our judgements, than that too is not a reason to discount someone as a fascist.  - Only Sort of Dumb (talk) 19:01, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, but anyone can secretly be a fascist. If we decide that speculation merits inclusion in the fascist category, then it could theoretically be applied to anyone. 19:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * But speculation isn't the deciding factor here, and no one said anything about that. We can identify the particular behavioral and doxastic tendencies unique to it, then we can extend quantified generalizations to particular actors as being or not being fascist. I.e. Fascists are never genuinely anti-racist,  Paul is anti-racist, ergo; Paul is not a fascist. As another example: only fascists advocate for a single-ethnicity ethno-state, Adam advocates for a single-ethnicity ethno-state, therefore, Adam is a fascist.  - Only Sort of Dumb (talk) 19:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I guess. I still don't really see myself, but I've been reminded of Kishi who was a fascist, so I guess it's possible. 19:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think he should be labelled as a fascist because of his membership in the nippon kaigi, and his rhetoric. Rational Dude (talk) 22:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)