File talk:PopeInnocentX.jpg

Wow. Nice dress! CЯacke ® 22:55, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Copyright - this is probably an image owned by whatever museum houses the work. Although we might be able to make a weak fair use claim since we are discussing "innocence"? 23:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't work like that. The image would be PD on age alone. 01:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * This is correct. Solely illustrative images of art retain copyright of the item depicted, and in this case the latter is very much expired.--Tom Moore fiat justitia 02:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I bet you're wrong. The issue, then, is is this "solely illustrative" of the work, or is it an image created by (and hence copyright) an art museum?  Want me to check with Joaquin Martinez about this?  He seems to know all about copyright law.  01:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diego_Vel%C3%A1zquez_048.jpg

Although it looks like a slightly different image. Why don't we swap it in for ours so we can present a clear pedigree? 01:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * "The official position taken by the Wikimedia Foundation is that "faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain, and that claims to the contrary represent an assault on the very concept of a public domain"" I suppose we can trust their vandals lawyers? 01:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you took a photo of people looking at a painting that would be copyright, if you take a picture of the picture itself it is public domain as you have added no more additional information (in the PJR sense) than if you photocopy a book. 01:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You had me until you used a poor analogy at the end. Photocopying a book is most certainly subject to copyright law.  02:04, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC)Copying a PD book isn't, go to the book store and look at all the editions of Shakespeare. 02:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And the photo is only PD if the work itself is, of course. 02:05, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. You were correct in spirit but your phrasing lacked the words "public domain", making the statement false.  02:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)