RationalWiki talk:Monday morning dumpster dive

Suggestion
Some form of classification/selection by topic - as RW-ians are likely to have fields of interest. Anna Livia (talk) 22:39, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Only one article from each main category, something like that? Nudescendant (talk) 18:32, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

The first style with the up/down buttons is good as it exposes rank of importance over time. Actually, that's a really cool way to do things. You'd have to code it somehow though so that they automatically move. I'm not sure if you can do that on Wiki though. --73.58.148.69 (talk) 19:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Voting
Just wondering whether votes are the best method of prioritisation. I think it would be best to rank them somehow, but I'm not sure whether voting on individual items achieves that goal.

Perhaps something could automagically rank them in order of votes? —Kazitor, pending 22:59, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ooh, maybe make it like the pointless poll, so people can vote on which they'd prefer to see fixed. That might work better. —Kazitor, pending 01:13, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * What do we do if somebody re-adds the same article each week? Allow it or not? Nudescendant (talk) 18:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Looking good
Looks fine for me. Perhaps have an icon on the saloonbar with the other ones. 23:42, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Is this page officially open for business now?
03:13, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing is official at RW. If people like it, then it's good enough. 17:32, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Can it be linked somewhere for ease of access? 18:04, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The sidebar maybe? Christopher (talk) 18:07, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Definitely not the sidebar. 20:48, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * There's a link in the to-do list page and in the Saloon Bar (a bit hard to find though)- 20:57, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, add a link here MediaWiki:Recentchangestext. 01:31, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

The picture
Is blatantly not free use, you're saying there's not a single picture of a dumpster on fire in the public domain. Christopher (talk) 18:09, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You tell me. (More importantly, we incur virtually no risk from using such an ubiquitous GIF.) 18:26, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * We've got lots of old gifs etc lying around the place. That "kill it with fire" one is obviously actionable by Mr Groening's people, but will they bother? Nudescendant (talk) 16:14, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Classification by content
I don't know what this achieves. There aren't going to be hundreds of pages listed here, so division won't make it easier to browse the trash. And the division doesn't make it easier to determine which article should be selected each Monday -- if anything, it makes it harder. (I especially despise the fact that there will be 5 or more separate poll counters steadily ticking upward.)

The only benefit would be that vertically higher sections will presumably receive more attention. The only benefit to this is if certain sections should get more attention -- maybe they're trashier. But nobody has explained which, if any, sections fit this criteria. 01:44, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Suggestions
I suggest oligarchy and aristocracy be added next Monday. —(((вιgℓʝвιgℓ))) (ᴛᴀʟᴋ/sᴛᴀʟᴋ) 18:51, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Is this ready to go for next week?
Does anything else need to be added or tidied? 04:06, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * A spot of tidying: Article of the weak is Vast Right-wing Conspiracy, yet the article has the fewest votes in the section under it. I blame the Illuminati. Or maybe it's just a placeholder until this goes live. Nudescendant (talk) 16:11, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I chose it. The choice was completely arbitrary. 19:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Nice idea!
could do with linking from the Watchlist or the To-Do list, and the Welcome template - David Gerard (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, the second one's been done. Second link from the right. —Kazitor, pending 23:43, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I added Useful Links to the To-Do List, as well as a few other pages. —Kazitor, pending 05:58, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

I nominate
this Ramzan Kadyrov for the next one.

It's very short. Too short.

ClickerClock (talk) 11:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Proposal
We should move the weekly dumpster dive to RationalWiki:Monday_morning_dumpster_dive/weekly and transclude a reduced version of that template onto Special:RecentChanges so that it gets more eyeballs. 07:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea. Christopher (talk) 08:26, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. 15:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)