RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Jack the Ripper

Jack the Ripper | Result: keeper

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Delete

 * 1) I don't understand the article as written at all (seems incoherent) and question the applicability to RationalWiki. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) Really. The only justification would be as an illustration of memes growing and living on. Scream!! (talk) 21:54, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Go on then - don't see it myself but ... Scream!! (talk) 01:02, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

I mean, there's some bullshit pseudoscientists announcing they've "solved the crime" about once every 2-5 years, but I don't think that alone merits an article(and as it stands it doesn't address that). Also: incoherent and stuff per CosmikDebris. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 19:21, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, it's improved on the incoherence front, and the arguments in keep aren't bad. More neutral now.  ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 16:13, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Keep

 * 1) Clean it up. Relevant to pseudohistory, possibly pseudoscience. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 19:26, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) Per FuzzyCatPotato. Highly relevant to pseudohistory and conspiracy theories. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 03:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) Give it a chance to be revised to something more missional (not to mention better written). The subject itself is highly relevant as the tuber and the Ruritanian dictator have already pointed out: Loads of conspiracy theories and pseudohistory surrounds this one. ScepticWombat (talk) 03:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 4) Another tuber gives his support to keeping the page. Yes, the original version of this page was utter crap but it's well on the way to being fixed. As the subject of plenty of conspiracy theories, Jack is definitely on-mission. Spud (talk) 07:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 5) Now support keeping, per the utter crap linked down under goat. PacWalker 07:18, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Goat
Moved Presumably on letter of mission, as there are psuedogenii "solving" the murders not too infrequently; people obviously don't don't seem to presently agree beyond that as to whether it fits the spirit of the mission. Not the best writing, but that objection should just raise a sofixit in my opinion. PacWalker 03:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC) (this vote is in fact open to all users, right?) Edited (strikethrough and following) 04:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, you can vote on deletion! But be warned, "Goat" doesn't count for anything; it's a comments section. Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 03:31, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I know; I have some uncertainties about whether this article fits the spirit of the RW mission (i.e. is this the sort of crankery we mean to document? Total RW newb (me) does not know...), but I'll leave that to others to sort out, and just put my thoughts here instead of cleanly in keep. PacWalker 03:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * My argument for the article's missional relevance rests, as mentioned earlier, on the number of pseudohistorical conspiracy theories surrounding the Ripper murders. If the Ripper murders had simply been an unsolved mystery, I'd vote for a delete, but since the "explanations" for them includes blaming anything from over  and Winston Churchill's dad to  involving (who else?) the Illuminati, I think that highlighting these aspects would definitely make a Ripper article RW territory. ScepticWombat (talk) 07:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Moving to keep due to sheer facepalm value of some of these: if this ain't first-rate conspiracy nonsense, I don't know what is. PacWalker 07:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

2 to 5. Kill the AFD? ʇυzzγɔɒтqoтɒтo (talk/stalk) 21:58, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd say give it another 24 hours. If not pitchfork & torch mob shows up, archive this thread. ScepticWombat (talk) 22:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Archived. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 03:55, 5 April 2015 (UTC)