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PROTIP
If you don't want your real name revealed on the internets, don't create a CP account with your real name. Here's a handy account name generator instead. All the BON did was correctly guess that you were TWIGO-ing yourself, and you confirmed it with your cries for oversight. -- Nx  / talk 07:13, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You are actually a woman? Aceof Spadessilverbrain.png 23:19, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No. I'm French.  In France (and thus in some former French holdings such as Lebanon), Camille serves as a name for both sexes.  As a matter of fact, I have a female cousin also named Camille.--  23:31, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Camille is a mans name? Aceof Spadessilverbrain.png 23:33, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup-- 23:36, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and, "Ace" when pronounced in French, sounds a lot like "ass." Just thought I'd let you know--  23:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, brxbrx sounds like a lot "cunt head, anus donkey" when said with NZ accent. Aceof Spadessilverbrain.png 23:39, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Fascinating. Just to be clear, we aren't actually insulting each other, right?  It's hard for me to tell at times.--  23:41, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. Aceof Spadessilverbrain.png 23:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

That stupid troll box you use to silence people
Gone. Done. Sent to loser heaven. 04:08, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Y u mad, though? Why do you insist on making irrelevant troll posts?  And Yeah, but you're a boring idiot fits the definition of irrelevant troll post to the letter.--  04:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Really didn't mean to rub your face in it
As above...that "why don't you ban him too?" comment to that BoN's talk page. I had completely fergotten you haz been w/o the 'hammer for some time.

Thanks for being a sport. C ® ackeЯ
 * No problem. Also, turns out I have pink eye.  That's what was bothering my eye so much all day.  But they gave me Vicodin and these antibiotic drops, so it's all good.--  20:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Be funnier with it! (n/t)
Be funnier with it!-- 00:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I don't have a clue what you're talking about. "n/t?"--  01:12, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * (n/t) means "no text"; i.e. the subject is the whole content of the message. Old message board parlance, sorry.
 * So you're not Maratrea? I just assumed.  Never mind, sorry!  Pip pip cheerio as my friends in the UK probably say.-- 02:14, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Zarnancy needs to respond first, then perchance Maratrea will respond. (Or she will get vandal binned.)  steriletalk 02:46, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

somebody unfucking block my IP
Thank you-- 18:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Fuck you
No fucking right nor reason to imitate other users you fucking troll. Also, stop altering other peoples comments you worthless cunt. Fuck off. Aceof Spades 22:05, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Imagine, if you will, me walking to the middle of Times Square wearing nothing but pink silk panties and holding a 20cm rubber dildo in my left hand. Upon reaching the center of the plaza, I wave the dildo up in the air above me all the while shouting "I'm a terrorist!  I'm with Al Quaeda! I'm a Muslim extremist!"
 * Would you, for even a split second, believe me? I hope not.
 * I am telling you this because that is keenly comparable to my transparent impersonation of Nutty Roux. Everybody knew it wasn't him, and that was my intention.  He claimed we should count a BoN's vote because it seemed to belong to an editor here, and I decided to make a few un-logged edits claiming to be Nutty Roux in a rather garish fashion to demonstrate to him (without actually being confused with him) that a BoN could be anybody, and not just anybody gets to vote here.
 * As for altering people's comments, there have been some times where someone would post a link to Know Your Meme or Oh Internet and I changed the link to a corresponding article on Encyclopædia Dramatica. I largely did it out of mock indignation that someone would dare refer to a lesser catalog of web culture, and the content of the post was always preserved and my changes were easily revertible.  Think of it as a friendly prank: without malice or consequence.
 * On some rare occasions I have inadvertently removed someone's comment while placing my own. This is entirely accidental and happens to other users on this site.
 * In Pippa's case (I apologized on his user page, by the way. Whether or not he accepts my apology remains to be seen), I hastily decided to remove his comment with the hope of preserving what I call my delivery; that is, my conversation-like response that is in sync with the previous comment's flow (in this context, that is how I define it).  I regret doing that.  I could have preserved my delivery without mowing over Pippa, and it was certainly not my place to interrupt his post just for my selfish desire to maintain my own aesthetic reply.  The right thing to do would have been to leave Pippa's post alone, I fully admit that, and I offer my apology to Pippa and the whole of RationalWiki's community.
 * Generally I find most complaints about me on this site to be exaggerated, though perhaps I also find that they hold a hint of merit. Nevertheless my judgement is not intrinsically superior to everyone else's, and even if it was, I like this place and would like to remain: I will try to keep in mind from now on not to alter people's posts, regardless of how innocuous I believe my changes to be, and regardless of how important I think my changes are.
 * This is my Mea Culpa, make of it what you will.-- 00:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, I just looked at the coop and now that UHM mentioned it, I have also edited people's posts for grammar and spelling and the like. And it's possible I changed some British spellings to American spellings as a joke (for example, harbour->harbor).  I may even have corrected grammar and spelling in a few of your posts, Ace.  Let me know and I won't do it again.--  00:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This is my Mea Culpa, make of it what you will.-- 00:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, I just looked at the coop and now that UHM mentioned it, I have also edited people's posts for grammar and spelling and the like. And it's possible I changed some British spellings to American spellings as a joke (for example, harbour->harbor).  I may even have corrected grammar and spelling in a few of your posts, Ace.  Let me know and I won't do it again.--  00:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

A word of advice
If you notice that people don't think your jokes are funny, stop making them. Might help not getting banned. -- 22:19, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Hey, Brx, can I get you to agree on the record not to edit others' comments, even for grammar and punctuation? I'd like to take a shot at ending the pointless bickering at the coop, and I'm willing to advocate dismissing your case (or whatever it's to be called), but I need you to do this first. A lot of people are touchy about having their comments altered, even insignificantly, and you really have nothing to gain by doing it. If someone's comment is so dramatically mangled that it begs for some sort of fix, then just ask the editor to clarify what they mean. Changing links to sites you prefer and screwing with their spelling isn't cool. If you can do this, hopefully we can toss more of this crap aside and clear the works for more important issues. Thanks. DickTurpis (talk) 13:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I already did so above, in response to Ace, but very well: I shall do so again. I hereby vow never to knowingly alter the comment of another user on RationalWiki.--  13:58, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. DickTurpis (talk) 16:23, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Bad articles
I despise bad articles and stubs. So for what it's worth, you never need to Concern Troll over articles I start, they will be at least presentable within hours of starting them - or I don't bother. The only time I bother with user space, is if i'm presenting an alternative version of history (like I did with the "abortion" article - which i still need to get some comments on) where what i want to do changes, signification, the scope, or view of an article and I think it needs people's comments and input before i make such a wholesale change. Since I spend most of my day writing, in (admittedly, not "good" writing, but effective and technically correct enough) I'm pretty fast at building articles. so nerts to you, and have a great day. (or is it nertz?).En attendant Godot 18:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Godot, not every concern is concern trolling. I have taken flak for this position before (See here), but I really think that one should wait until an article is complete before putting it up where everybody can see it.  Now.  When I looked at the Very special episode article, I saw it as grossly incomplete and I even saw an unfinished sentence (Tom Hanks himself comes and plays a hard core alcoholic. Frightening the- that really grated at me).  I do not think that you are a bad writer (not in the least!), and certainly you've proven yourself to be a valuable contributor to this good site (certainly far more valuable than I!).  I just thought that VSE in the state I saw it should not have been in mainspace.  I hope you can understand my position.--  18:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Brx, if I might suggest: before typing anything
 * wait half an hour,
 * type it in,
 * preview it,
 * erase it,
 * forget it.
 * That way you'll avoid looking any stupider than you already do. Pippa (talk) 19:24, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You should also apologize to WfG. It is so appallingly arrogant to pretend to lecture WfG, who is a more productive and respected editor here than you will ever be, while you dig in your heels and tell her how this wiki is run. That's unacceptable whether or not it's concern trolling. A wiki is for collaborative writing. If you don't like a sentence in such a short piece, don't let it "grate at you." Fix it. And basic courtesy dictates that you wait more than an hour before you start complaining about how the start of an article isn't immediately up to your high standards.  19:35, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If you create a new article in mainspace, chances are someone's going to jump in and start copyediting it, so if it's just a temp save and you don't want others to mess with it yet, it's better to save it in userspace. Moving it is just a couple clicks. And why's everyone so upset over what Brxbrx said? -- Nx  / talk 19:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I dont' give a shit if he or anyone edited, changed, fixed, played with, or hell, even deleted for relevance something I wrote. I write fast.  I edit in main space cause it will be a finished article in one or two edits.  I happen to hit save sometimes, cause I don't like losing stuff due to my own incompetence.  What Brx did that ticked me off, was tell me that I should not do that.  He didn't try to edit.  He didn't try to fix.  he just said "don't do that".  It's childish, petty, and a control freak's position.  nothing here is complete.  nothing here is "done".  And given the crap we see all the time from one line entries, you just take it and move on.  I don't need to be called out on shit, unless you see some pattern of my edits or habits that are a problem.  not one single time or instance, that I happened to not be able to finish that moment.  That's why I'm ticked.  (also, I was in need of chocolate... but that's been resolved).  To me, most of the issues around here get started cause people feel arrogantly justified in just slamming how others do things, with out really looking at what's going on.  IE., had he waited just 1 hour, the article would have been "done".
 * Godot, perhaps you could weigh in on these words? It would certain help lead towards closure and prevent any future recriminations.--  20:27, 25 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't want to keep anything going. I just really think you need to take time before spouting off about how a particular thing is done.  AGain, if you see a pattern, that's one thing, and it should be brought up on a users page.  But by the time anyone had read your comment, the article was fixed.  so, liek i said, change things, don't change things - but the chastisement?  that's the issue. [[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]En attendant Godot  21:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Cooped
You should have already been notified immediately, but I wanted to let you know you've been Cooped: RationalWiki:Chicken_coop-- 05:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

tolerate

 * I don't get it. I think it's about violence.  Anyways, here's a thizz song I like.  I'm not sure what this one's about either.

-- 00:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't expose me to your awful music. Aceace 00:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * All I wanna know is if you really gettin' hyphy --  00:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry
I can come feed you too. steriletalk 02:41, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think Brxbrx sees people picking on me, and tries to defend me. And I appreciate that. At the same time, I don't feel picked on when sterile asks questions about my religion, even somewhat dismissive ones; I am happy to engage with him on that. 02:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sterile, there is nothing I can do you won't consider to be trolling, is there?-- 03:41, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Possibly because you are an awful troll. Aceace 23:00, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * --B♭maj7 "If two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong." 23:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Disagreeing with you does not equate trolling. Now go pull strangers' pants down or do some other activity at your level of maturity.--  23:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Now go pull strangers' pants down or do some other activity at your level of maturity You have no idea Camille - I am older, smarter, better looking and more successful than you can ever be. Suck on it. Aceace 23:04, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This reminds me of when Ice T told Soulja Boy to go eat a dick-- 23:05, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a FRANTASTIC idea. Go eat a dick. Eat a whole bag full of them. B♭maj7 "If two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong." 23:08, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Intercom
Don't use the intercom to attract the attention of four users. If you think about it, you will see why. And if I had wanted to do it, I would have. Okay?-- 01:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay... I just think using the intercom is a lot of fun--  01:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And that's cool. It's just that (a) that sort of use aggravates the spread of this stuff, and we have enough drama llamas galloping around already, and (b) it's mildly annoying.  Not a big deal, I don't want to break your balls over it or anything, just a pro-tip, y'know?-- 01:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * AD, you can remove or mark as read that intercom message for the rest of the users as a mod, I seem to recall. Might be a good idea. 01:31, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, no special intercom powers as far as I know. Shouldn't be necessary, anyway - there aren't so many mods and they should be probably paying at least some attention to the relevant page.  I want to keep mods as unspecial as possible.-- 01:41, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Mods can hide and unhide a site-wide intercom message from anons. Site-wide is the only group that gets displayed for anons, that's why. -- Nx  / talk 08:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * {ec-for the second time today, Blue has harshed my mellow} I promise I will not use the intercom again unless I desire to attract the attention of at least 5 users. Just kidding. I'll simply be more sparing and judicious in its applications.--  01:32, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

You can take the troll out of 4chan...
I don't think as badly of you as some people around here do, and I even think you're in the right on the whole Maratrean flap, but you seem to be really intent on testing people's patience around here... Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:41, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sheesh, I was just messing around. I didn't think I was being so difficult.  I suppose that from now on I'll try and restrain myself from doing such things.  And I don't really like 4chan that much.  Too much child pornography.--  04:12, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not the act itself, it's the pattern of actions. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:40, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The pattern is benign, receding, and will likely go into remission.-- 07:04, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they keep telling me that.... Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 07:06, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The voices? The FBI?  Your parents?  The doctors? The RationalWiki community?  --  07:09, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * All of them. I should probably see a professional for that. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 07:10, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Take a shower, join a charity, and maybe you'll get laid some. In the meanwhile, quit whining, mkay?
Your turn. Aceace 07:34, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I just took a shower, and I volunteer at the animal shelter. I ask for nothing else.--  14:04, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Now go skullfuck a kitten.
That is the most interesting thing you have ever said. Aceace 03:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Can we make an image and put it on his page? steriletalk 03:04, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You can put it on your own page. I won't mind.--  03:07, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You two may find this pleasing, or simply this if you don't wish to read the entire article. It's an ED classic.--  03:10, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Sysopship
Tomorrow is September 19th, which I believe was the agreed upon date of you getting your sysop rights back. I'm willing to give you back your sysopship if you want it, partly because the abuse you're getting from Ace and the hypocrisy of him keeping his rights in spite of that abuse is bothering me. However, you are on very thin ice. This isn't ED, where you get to swing your banhammer around indiscriminately. One mistake, and you're out, and I doubt anyone else will be willing to put their neck on the line for you. If you need to block someone for vandalism, block for an hour at most. Joke blocks should be no longer than 5 minutes. Now go read SYSOP a couple times. -- Nx  / talk 10:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, let's give it another few months. Thanks anyways, though--  11:14, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I wanted too ask tomorrow, but if you don't want to, ok. If you feel ready leave me fuck you note on my talk page, but you would be on thin ice with me too. -- 20:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Leave you "fuck you note?"-- 20:04, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sarcasm for "Ask nicely" -- 20:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

"I should remind you that your rights are well on their way to being stripped, once tmt finishes testing the new rights group."
You know who's worse than the kid having a tantrum? The kid who runs off to tattle to teacher/mommy/what-have-you and then gloats about the punishment awaiting the alleged offender. B♭maj7 "Voted in two different votes, but there was never a vote." 22:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

RationalWiki has changed, and you are an anachronism!

 * She looks rather mannish. Big hands, and I think I see a rather pronounced adam's apple.  Does she wear lots of black layers to hide her copious body fat?--  03:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ...dude. Not cool.-- 03:31, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fucking rich, aren't you a 24 yr old virgin? Aceace 03:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Why does everybody think I'm twenty-four? Did I mistype my age somewhere?  I am twenty.  I was born in 1991.--  20:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Holy fuck, bricks, you are an asshole. People here don't and won't coddle you, even the ones who have yet to have the mind-numbing experience that is interacting with you. If I've never said it directly to you, please, fuck off. I'm not going to block you, but surely you have a shred of decency, at long last, to just leave. 03:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow Bricks, that attempt at imitating Ace McWicked epic failed. -- Nx  / talk 03:53, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

steriletalk 03:56, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Well
I'd like to begin by apologizing (although there will be recriminations later on). Ace McWicked, I am sorry for what I said about your wife. Actually, I barely even looked at the photograph, and my reply was not even my own: "big hands, pronounced adam's apple" came from a Dilbert strip; "wears black to hide her rolls of fat" came from a French comic you've never heard of, and never will hear of, which is alright because I can't remember the name and it wasn't that great anyways. So I don't think your wife is fat, or mannish. I was just popping off an insult, the first that came to my head, and one I would readily have used if some other dipshit posted his mate on my talk page.

But this begs the question: "Why are you showing me pictures of your wife?" I mean, really? What were you expecting? And while the second photograph you posted I did not see (it was deleted), I shudder to think what you were willing to do to prove to me your wife is not fat and mannish. Hopefully she's fine with you posting pictures of her on the internet, and hopefully in the future you won't care so much about my opinion of your wife that you would expose her online.

Maybe, though, this could give you some perspective. Maybe this wiki would be better off if users could be nice to each other. My memory could be off, but I think that the very first time I threw myself into site politics (disregarding the occasional apathetic vote) was after these two edits. This is what I remember as the moment I rose up and reared my head. You see, what I have been advocating for all this time is civility. Now, that doesn't mean you and your e-friends can't insult each other freely a like you're wont to do, but it does mean you can't insult anyone that doesn't want to be insulted. So when you vandalize, say, Human's user page that's okay, because he doesn't care. But vandalizing Maratrean's user page is not okay, because he does not want you to. This does not seem so absurd a standard to me. Furthermore you would be expected to pay some respect to the various users on the site which you dislike. You don't have to agree with them, you'd just have to answer their points and whatnot without calling them gibbering idiots. That's probably a better debate tactic anyways, in that your opponent will actually listen to you and not dismiss you out of hand for being an asshole. Anticipating your reply of "srs bzness!! It's just a website, gawd!" I tell you that You may also say that I fail to understand this site's culture, but there I respond The moral of this story? Don't post pictures of your wife on the talk pages of people you troll, and being nicer to people won't kill you and probably leave you better off.-- 20:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Many people have invested a lot of time on this site, by creating articles or improving old ones; by improving the site's mechanics through templates and extensions.
 * 2) Many people have donated money to keep the site running.
 * 3) People do care, and attacking them won't make them cease caring and conform to your non-caring worldview. It'll just annoy them.
 * 1) The votes in these past few months have demonstrated that the site's users have a different view of its culture than you. You and yours may be the loudest, but you're hardly the norm.
 * 2) If this is indeed the site's culture, then I contend that the site's culture is flawed and unproductive, and that it should change. Fortunately this is not the case.  You are the one that needs to change, not the site.
 * I don't give two fucks what you think of my wife. You think your opinion matters to me? Get fucked Brx. You are just an awful douchebag who can shove the moral of the story up his ass. Aceace
 * Oh my. Well, your reaction indicated otherwise.  Perhaps you've a better explanation?  A shame you refuse to learn anything from this experience.  It seems you're only interested in responding in kind.--  21:01, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * My reaction was one of amusement. I got the response I desired from you. Aceace 21:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And "Why are you showing me pictures of your wife?" because it was amusing you fucking idiot. She was drunk and pulling the finger so I used to insult you but it appears to have gone over your head. Aceace 21:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course. Silly me.  Forgive me for inciting your anger, though. Really, you can't see this as a reason to encourage civility?--  21:08, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Brx, I am going to let you in on something. I am a 30yr old married male with a hectic but enjoyable full-time job which carries a lot of responsibility, currently I am studying towards a masters degree in Political Science and indulge in freelance journalism when a story comes up. I have a large group friends, a rather sizable drinking habit (I am just being honest here, not trying to be "cool") plus a terminally ill family member to keep an eye on. I'll probably be starting a family in a couple of years, looking at opening my own business and buying a house. Now because of all these things do you really, really, think that I give a flying fuck what you or anyone else (outside of the close friends I have made here) at RW thinks of me or my behaviour or, even more laughably, my wife? Think about that. Aceace 21:21, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't take it so personally. And try and be nicer to people.  This isn't your playground.--  22:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't take it so personally. And try and be nicer to people.  This isn't your playground. Yeah, I think you need to reread what I just wrote. Aceace 22:20, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying, for someone who doesn't care, you react pretty strongly sometimes. Can you at least agree to stop being a dick?--  22:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I act in manner which is completely consistent with my personality. You should see me in real life, I'm a hoot. Aceace 22:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you say so-- 22:25, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't understand you again and again comment. You mean I say I'm a hoot again and again? Explain yourself. Aceace 22:31, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed it. Let's leave it at that.--  22:32, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have wandalized your sig...Aceace 22:39, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Did you know that if you replace your sig with the three partytime.png pic at 45px each if looks really damned amusing however we can't keep it like that because it displays pornography sitewide without any tags and not even I am willing to do that for any longer than a minute at a time. Aceace 22:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. Please refrain from doing that in the future, I like my signature just fine as it is.--  22:57, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Update - or something like that...
You can scratch me off that list. I will no longer participate in wikipolitics on RW. It would just be a waste of time to try. I'll just let the kids have their little playground fights. Obviously most of them don't care about the issues they are fighting about. -- 16:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just citing you as an example of a typical RationalWiki user. I'm sorry to hear they've gotten to you so much, although I could have predicted your blocks on Ace would go awry.  Hopefully you'll continue to be a valued contributor, though.--  20:51, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That was before that. -- 21:50, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

?
"It's on mission, but I've yet to read so I don't know if it's good enough." If you've yet to read it, how the hell do you know it's on mission? Scream!! (talk) 23:16, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've looked at the subject before. Fits into objectives 1, 2, and 4. --  23:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * An article can be off mission even if the subject is on mission -- Nx  / talk 03:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Mission is a really strange critter. It seems to be not about "it fits 2, 3, and 7" but about "when you read this, does it say something relevant to 'rational wiki', does it have a voice, and does anyone care".  and I have to agree that you MUST read it to figure those out, even if it fits all of the "mission" critera. [[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot   The Peyote God awaits 03:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the topic fits RW's mission. But deleting the article altogether seems silly if it can be brought back in line (still haven't read it, though).--  05:08, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Which article?? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:09, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Shakespeare authorship-- 05:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, that. I've been very confused about why that's generating so much controversy about missionality -- it's pseudohistory related. And there are way more off-mission things on this wiki anyway. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:36, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

A Forest
The best Cure songs are: And many more. Get it right next time. Aceace 19:35, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Edge of the deep green sea
 * Never enough
 * Disintegration
 * Lullaby
 * 10:15 on a Saturday Night
 * Really? I like Primary, Hanging Garden, Watching me Fall, Lovesong, and Siamese Twins.  To each his own.--  19:37, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure either of you are right, actually. But my biggest Cure-listening days were about 20 years ago, so I'm a bit rusty. DickTurpis (talk) 19:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah Primary, I'll give you that one. Aceace 19:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And Shake Dog Shake. Aceace 19:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The Upstairs Room is underrated, at least. DickTurpis (talk) 01:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I can't believe I have to explain this to you
I'll try and use small and easy to understand words...Rob has made multiple accusations that I am engaging in sockpuppetry. He has done this over two different wikis, my personal email and has even suggested that I used socks to rig the mod elections in my favour. When asked for evidence of this Rob clams up and refuses to answer yet will make the same outlandish claims. So now I am ready to admit to Rob that he is in fact correct - he is my sockpuppet. Rob is a big boy and I am sure he can maintain his user page without you leaping to his defense. Aceace 01:23, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Does Rob harass you with these claims, or does he only present them when you bug him? Also, evidence of sockpuppetry isn't particularly easy to procure.  Rob does not have check user, all he has to go on is similar motives and editing habits.  And that doesn't justify you vandalizing his user page anyways.--  01:39, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rob more or less throws around these claims whenever he feels like it. I think there is something wrong with you. Aceace 01:41, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I edited Mikalos userpage also - better go revert that too. Aceace 01:42, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Mikalos doesn't care. Rob does.  Are you familiar with the concept of civility?  Is it so foreign to you, not interfering with someone that otherwise does not interfere with you (much)?--  01:48, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Aceace 01:50, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Interestingly enough, the Community Standards page linked to in that template says We prefer and encourage that users and editors become a part of the community. We encourage everyone to join in, be bold, and engage in sensible debate, but expect them to do so without resorting to vandalizing articles or harassing other users. Granted, the sentence after that is, but you get the message, right?  Of course, MarcusCicero is planning on starting a website where this civility nonsense isn't allowed.  Perhaps you could join him?--  01:54, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Aceace 01:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought we'd been over this. You're the minority, and you're the one who fails to understand RationalWiki's culture.  You're like a cranky conservative upset that you aren't allowed to lynch niggers anymore--  01:58, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! Aceace 02:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't normally get involved in this sort of thing.... But did you really just say that ACE McFUCKINGWICKED, someone who's been here long before either of us fails to understand the culture? Really?   09:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If the culture changes and one fails to keep up, then yes. This is akin to saying that the British Monarchy knows everything about and fully understands the culture of 21st Century Britain because it was established in 1066 and has pretty much been unbroken since. ADK ...I'll cogitate your nostalgia! 10:52, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Has there been a culture change and would this particular culture change desirable? Aceace 11:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This whole discussion is bunk, because there is no "culture." There are, and nearly always have been, collections of competing philosophies; but no overriding, unifying sense of commonality. The fact that our community is cohesive on so many ideological levels creates the illusion of a common culture. 11:06, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * My favourite culture has always been Stilton...

Aceace 11:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Let's just give this its own special section
You're like a cranky conservative upset that you aren't allowed to lynch niggers anymore

Please comply
Aceace 13:47, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, poor bastard-- 13:50, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I adore and worship you
You are my god. I will fellate you for free. That's ten cents cheaper than my usual fee.--Oldusgitus (talk) 16:06, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Erm, I REALLY was pissed yesterday. I certainly don't recall writing THAT particular line.  Oh well, as the offer was made I guess I have to abide by it.  All you need to do is come to the UK and find me to collect, ok :-) Oldusgitus (talk) 07:21, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, hopefully, nothing I did was too hard to revert-- 07:24, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Peanut butter argument
"Yeah, but not spontaneously"? I fail to see how that is relevant. Lawsuits happen; if life were to arise in my jar of peanut butter, the discovery would be lost under the possible money I could win in one. That was my point. Wehpudicabok (talk) 07:41, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Life is in your peanut butter jar not because it arose there: instead bacteria and perhaps other microbes survived the pasteurization process and grew to thrive on their own.-- 07:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You and I know that, yes. The point is that I'm entertaining the creationist's idea that it could have spontaneously arisen there, and then showing that even if it had, no one would have noticed.  Wehpudicabok (talk) 07:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't get it. Put it back in if you like, I guess.--  07:52, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I put in a clearer version. If someone else takes it out, I'll let it go.  Wehpudicabok (talk) 07:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Whaaaaaambulance
You seem like you might know this: do we have any whaaambulance images or emoticons? I feel the need.-- 08:41, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Both brx and maratrean are lousy dirtbags fit only for scorn. Both of them are worthless to the point that flesh eating bacteria give them wide berths. I warned you all about these people. Pay heed to my sooth-saying. Aceace 08:51, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Eh, I like Brx, personally. Not sure why.  I seek to mold him, shape him into a fine dickslinging citizen of RW (dickslinging is an ancient and respected art here).  I will defy your prophecy with this padawan!-- 09:10, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * AD's continued bullying and harassment of Brxbrx is conduct unbecoming of a moderator. 09:04, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * -- 09:10, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There was a Fun:waambulance, but it was deleted, I think. Try here, there are four pics.  Otherwise, no, we have nothing.  Also, Maratrean, AD has not been bullying or harassing me.--  11:09, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Ace, next time, ask before modifying my userpage
Can I edit your userpage? Aceace 02:49, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, the answer will probably be no. But tell me what you have in mind and if I like it, maybe I'll let you have a go.--  02:51, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am going to graft the three titties from the deformed hooker in Total Recall and photoshop it onto a picture of elephant seal sporting an enormous throbbing member. I was then going to use it to abuse you with. Aceace 02:56, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that would a worthy endeavour. --DamoHi 02:58, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * {ec}I'd be fine with just the deformed hooker's tits. Not fond of the rest, though.  Sorry.  And if you do decide to add triple-tits to my user page, notify me first, should I change my mind.--  02:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I might just do it anyway - standby. Aceace 03:00, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You aren't allowed. Push the moderators enough and they just might block you--  03:01, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You'll have to wait until i get home. Stand by. Aceace 03:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Why are you so determined to do this?-- 03:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Dear Brxbrx, I'm not going to ask for permission to vandalize your page since you've done it to me several times without apologizing. But hey will you do me a favor and email me a picture of your face so I can add it to the mashup? Thanks buddy. 03:07, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't have a camera, sorry. Also, I have long since admitted that my actions were wrong, and I should not have done them.--  03:09, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Brx, you know you are looking forward to seeing what it looks like....stand by. Aceace 03:09, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've seen Total Recall, I've seen elephant seals, why would I want to see a crude MSPaint mashup of the two together?-- 03:13, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Standby....Aceace 03:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)



As Promised....
enjoy! Aceace 04:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Jesus dude
You are just pissing everyone off today, huh? Aceace 22:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

heya
for sticking it to the man 09:06, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

This is not your circle jerk anymore

 * Hey, notice that Mr. "This is not your Circle Jerk" is the one with the lady? And all those guys on bikes look really gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course... 121.214.98.153 (talk) 07:53, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll play. That picture is from the early 70s. Everyone looked gay back then. If that's Brx, the girl is his sister begging the older boys not to cream him while he keeps telling them their circle jerk is over, that they're an anachronism, etc. Funny pictures aside, Brxbrx is never the one "with the lady." He's as hideous on the outside as in and his lack of character is even more apparent in his offline life, where he's a 20 year old virgin and not even his parents want him around. Hence he lives alone and in squalor. But keep it coming, 121.214. Fantasy is all the poor child has anymore.  15:39, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

List of people who don't understand Rationalwiki's culture
I have composed a list of people who don't understand rationalwiki so you can better identify those who are not part of the new culture when regime change is upon us. This list is not exhaustive. Hope this helps. Aceace 03:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ace McWicked
 * Human
 * Nutty roux
 * DogP
 * Waiting For Godot
 * B♭maj7
 * Sterile

IT IS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --Brxxxbrxxx (talk) 05:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I understand RW culture despite being about as off mission as one could be?--Mikalosa (talk) 03:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * i think you'll find Brx decides who understand and who doesn't. Obviously by syaing something that stupid Mikalos you do not understands RW's new culture. Aceace 03:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I was mostly responding to your comment about site culture, Ace. It's not a club where people are excluded and whatnot.  That list you provided maybe serves to represent people unwilling to abandon their free-range trolling.  And you forgot Weaseloid.--  05:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I am wrong but didn't you start editing here after ED was shut down? -  π    silverbrain.png 05:48, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I started editing here about a month before the shutdown, and I did not anticipate the shutdown. If you are implying that I came from ED to troll, then to that I respond that with ED, trolling is a fundamental aspect of the site, and everyone knows what to expect.  That is not the case on RationalWiki.  Nowhere in the mission statement does it say we annoy people and try to piss people off for the sake of pissing them off.  Additionally, even among ED users you will find polite interactions.  And this is a place where covering a page with pictures of gore is like saying hello as much as it is like saying fuck you.  ED sysops try and educate new users and people on the site with dissenting views are treated with respect up to the point where they cease treating us with respect.  And again, I must ask why it is only possible for Ace McWicked and his band of merry men to have fun when picking on someone else.--  05:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have been posting long rambling screeds here for nearly 4 years, son. I have been having fun, in many ways, since long before you showed up. Aceace 06:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Then why can't you go back to that? Why must you constantly try to piss people off?--  15:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Look Brx, I understand the impulse to think you're part of a group but the sooner you realize Ace isn't trying to piss anyone off and that you are literally the only person on this quest to smear older editors you don't like, the better off you'll be. You seem extremely disconnected from reality if you you think you're speaking for anyone else or that there are more griefers here than you and Maratrean. Ace is not the problem. Dog is not the problem. I am not the problem. We will be happy to see you go. 16:16, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it's quite obvious that Ace is trying to piss people off when he vandalizes Nx's talk page and harasses Maratrean with images Maratrean does not wish to see.-- 17:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course that is obvious, Brx. do you think he's hiding the fact that he's fucking with them?  But "so what".  we are all grown ups here.  While people who act five (or 13, or whatever age Bevis and Butthead are) can be annoying, it's part of the reality of life.  especially here.  Why are you the one whining.  I mean, i could see why NX whines, cept he doesn't.  he probably hates it, but he doesn't whine.  Mara whines, but "no comment" there.  it's not your page, why are you offended?[[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot   Have you tried turning it off and on again?". 17:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What? Accept it?  No fucking way.  That may be the reality of life, but that doesn't mean it's okay.  I won't condone these actions or accept such abuse because they are not supposed to be doing it.  Can you not understand that?  It's wrong.  It's not nearly as wrong as a number of things, but it's still wrong.--  17:16, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Won't condone what? Not supposed to be doing what? We've got no rules except the few YOU laughed about breaking. Putting pictures of bare asses and dicks on the page of someone who expressed patently insincere reasons for objecting to such images in the first place is not abuse. It's giving the griefer what he begged for. And just FYI, it's why you get negative attention. Ace didn't start the character attacks against the objects of some vendetta. You did, and you remain unpopular for your bad judgment in this and every other regard. Your presence adds nothing when you're ignored or ridiculed. I will relish seeing you finally realize how badly you've miscalculated whatever strategy you think you're employing, see how unwelcome you are here, and have the courtesy to fuck off when you're being handed your hat. 17:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ace (and others, including you) acted with the sole purpose of antagonizing Maratrean. We prefer and encourage that users and editors become a part of the community. We encourage everyone to join in, be bold, and engage in sensible debate, but expect them to do so without resorting to vandalizing articles or harassing other users.  That's from the community standards.  Even if you think it's morally acceptable to knowingly upset people who do not wish that upon themselves, it is very clearly against the community standards, possibly the community rules.--  17:31, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I disagree and encourage you to coop me, Bflat, Ace, AD, Nx, Pi, etc. See how that goes and see just how fucking wrong you are to try to enforce the community standards like they're hard and fast rules when they clearly say they're in place for guidance and ARE NOT rules. Jesus fuck you're a dumb ass.  17:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I said possibly rules. The qualitative was meant to represent desires from some to treat them as such.  But at least you're admitting to acting in contempt of the spirit of RationalWiki.--  21:38, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I certainly am not. Did your mother drop you on your head or something? What's wrong with you? 22:07, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, then please explain how you are not acting in contradiction to the aforementioned guideline?-- 22:13, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

BEGIN THE REVOLUTION! ROUND UP THE ENEMIES OF THE NEW ERA! SEND THEM TO THE CAMPS! (except WfG, she's not that bad... and who the fuck is DogP?) 121.214.98.153 (talk) 07:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I demand to be put on the list. steriletalk 17:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have added Sterile. Aceace 20:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ED is online. Proxima Centauri (talk) 20:13, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!! -- Nx  / talk 20:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Just so you know.
I have in fact being laying off you for the most part. Just saying. Aceace 22:58, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I haven't noticed but then again I've admitted to you several times that I am "thick."-- 23:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have been treating you the same as I treat anyone else. Aceace 00:33, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you considered that some people may not appreciate being treated in such a fashion? --  00:36, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Most people seem greatly humored and realize this is the internet. I don't understand what your problem is. Aceace 00:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You seem unwilling to consider the feelings of others. Why can't you leave such people alone?  Why do you insist on causing them grief?  What are you trying to achieve?--  00:45, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I tell Nutty/AD/anyone else that they are worthless anal sores who drip semen from every orifice and the laugh it off. I tell you and you start crying and wet your pants. Grow the fuck up man. Aceace 00:57, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, I wouldn't necessarily mind that. I often have difficulty interpreting such means of joking, but coming from ED I've acquired something of a thick skin regarding creative insults.  Second of all, don't act like it's people like me who are in the wrong.  When you insult someone, jokingly or not, and you find that they are offended by that insult, doing it again is malice.  Schadenfreude.  You don't have the right to inflict suffering on others (no matter how mild) for your personal amusement.  And if you think you're teaching people like me or Maratrean some sort of lesson by behaving this way, you're not.  You're not doing a service to humanity, you're just being annoying.  Cut it out, quit acting like a grade school bully.  Throw mock insults at Nutty Roux all you want.  He's fine with it.  But if Maratrean isn't, don't.
 * Furthermore, this extends to more than just mock insults. This is also about overly harsh criticism of other users.  Do not confusing constructive criticism with "you're a dumb cunt."  Tell them what is wrong with their position and how they might improve it instead.  Also, harassing people just because you don't like them is pretty immature, too.  --  01:06, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll do as I please. Aceace 01:08, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What sociopathic cocktail of Nietsche, Ayn Rand, and Crowley have you been reading?-- 01:14, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am an adherent of Maratreanism. Aceace 01:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well you sure as hell don't act like it.-- 01:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You absolutely amaze Brx. You really have some growing up to do man. Aceace
 * Says the guy whose morality is an indication of his mental development being stuck at toddler level. Assuming you believe, of course.--  01:21, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * mental development being stuck at toddler level Didn't you come here from ED? Aceace 01:24, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, but I at least have a limited ability to distinguish right from wrong. My sense of humor is irrelevant to that.  By the way, I don't actually think you're a sociopath.  I just think you're unwilling to admit that your treatment of others is wrong.  We've been on this carousel a few times already, I believe.--  01:26, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * My treatment of others is wrong...on the internet...on a website known for fun flaming...says a guy...from a notorious troll site. Right. Aceace 01:30, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Just because it's the internet doesn't mean it has no effect on the real world. Just like sound waves in real life, the electronic signals coursing from your key board to someone else's monitor can have emotional and psychological impact.  Moreover, RationalWiki is not a troll site.  Nowhere in the mission statement or the community standards does it say this.  Encyclopædia Dramatica is definitely a troll site.  Nobody denies that, and everyone going there either knows this in advance or is informed upon arrival.  Being an ED user implies consent.  One is welcome to protest ED's culture and purpose, and may even come out successful.  But you always know what you're getting into.  Should someone come to RationalWiki, they'll be pointed to the mission statement and the community standards, which indicate the site's purpose: not trolling.--  01:43, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * As a cristian and therefor impecible morals i see nothing wrong with Ace's actions (Seriously though, i really dont, atleast as the site stands at the moment)--Mikalosa (talk) 01:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * But not impeccable spelling. ;) 07:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Advice
It is looking like I am the only person sympathetic to you around here any more so I am going to give you some advice. Back down. Instead of trying to approach people with the attitude "this is how they should behave" approach them with the attitude "this is how they are going to behave, how do I avoid/minimise the fallout?" I have been on this website 3 and a half years now, I know most of the users of this site only though their online handles and despite that I like them. The reason being is I have built up a good repertoire with them. I also took note of what triggers them and avoid doing those things. Laugh at the jokes, join in the discussions, find things you know they will like and post it on their talkpage. Don't tell people how you think they should behave. Before you know it Ace will be vandalising your user page out of affection and not to troll you. -  π     03:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * B♭maj7 (talk) Member of the Kara Duhe fan club since 2010 03:30, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * agree, good post. though someone should tell Ace that vandalizing people out of affection spreads ATDs.  which get pretty nasty sometimes. --[[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot   Tue pour toujours, et tu veux vivre aussi. 03:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * this is what Nutty said to you - you attract negative attention to yourself. Telling Bflat, a long time users what he should or shouldn't be doing (not to mention me, DogP and others) is asking for trouble. Aceace 03:39, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * {ec}Some of what you're saying is that I should accommodate the shortcomings of others (not shortcomings as in disabilities, but as in people acting like dicks)? Ace should not be vandalizing my userpage to troll me.  He should not be vandalizing anyone's user page to troll them.  And please don't tell me to roll with the punches.  That's terrible advice.
 * I agree with you that I can be presumptuous and arrogant. That has been a recurring problem throughout my entire life.  I should have approached P-Foster differently (although given the hostility he's developed for me because of my previous actions, I wonder if he'd have accepted an approach like you suggested.  Though I suppose that's your point.  I must build a rapport with the site's userbase).
 * I believe P's method of locking pages whenever someone he disagrees with edits them is quarrelsome and immature. I think it's done more out of spite than out of desire to curtail drama.  In fact, it only serves to increase drama.  I am sorry that I expressed that poorly, but I question whether or not there is a better way of saying it.  And I know you're thinking "Why say it at all?"  Because that's the best way to get him to consider his actions.  Maybe in 10 years P-Foster (I'm not using his new username.  I've not got a key for flat notes on my keyboard) will realize he's acting like a churl.  In the meanwhile, he's causing trouble.  Of course, my point in this particular case is moot if you disagree with my take on his locking of user pages.
 * I also disapprove of Blue's actions. I think she should have held a vote before moving it to user space.  But I only realized that she was also a part of this after I protested P's locking of the original page.
 * But thanks for the advice, I'll try and consider it more later even after I've considered just now. I had no idea that you were sympathetic towards me.  I pictured you to be as fed up with me as the rest of the old guard.  I thought Maratrean was the only one left sympathetic to me, lol.--  03:45, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe in 10 years P-Foster (I'm not using his new username. I've not got a key for flat notes on my keyboard) will realize he's acting like a churl. What the fuck? I happen to know how old he is and I don't think 10 years will matter. You need 10 years. Aceace 03:51, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I wasn't speaking of maturity. I know his age too.  He once gave me a very uplifting mini-speech about the possibility of me having a future in philosophy where he told me his age.  I was very grateful for that, but since he's degenerated into a curmudgeon.  @Pi (don't have a key on my keyboard for Pi either...) After looking through this old talk page I see that you and I are more of like midn than I thought.--  03:53, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Fuck dude, you're a lost cause. Aceace 03:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I see that I wasn't quite clear in my last post. I was saying that in time, he may reflect upon his actions and come to regret them.  I was not necessarily he should grow up.--  03:58, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 10 years from now you really think he'll regret what he said to someone on RW once? Yep, a lost fucking cause. Aceace 03:59, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe if he remembered it.-- 04:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * These two sentences made me feel a lot better. It may not have been much to him, but I was quite appreciative of P-Foster after that. Of course, then he decided that fitting in with the cool kids was better than even giving me the time of day, and he turned into bflatma7: an asshole--  04:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Just to chime in. Although for some time I regarded you as a simple trouble-maker I have been revising that opinion of late. See you around. :-) --BobSpring is sprung! 07:34, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Have I upgraded to complicated troublemaker? ;)-- 08:24, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Articles you "may get around to writing"
It's not really "cool" to use main space to remind yourself of articles you want to write. Make a link here, or stick a "to do" list, perhaps. The real problem is, one never knows when they can or will get around to writing. Life does that as we all know. so red links on pages sit there forever. and that wasn't even an link, it was a "see also". Which makes it stick out like a red sore thumb.Godot  Tue pour toujours, et tu veux vivre aussi. 04:07, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a red link - it was a link to a stub(y article). I don't see how it would help him remember though... Peter talk, or type, or whatever... 04:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

James Ussher/Age of the Earth
This would not be an issue if you would actually get around to fixing the article, as you said you would WEEKS AGO. You've had time to fart around on talk pages here and on RWW; use that time to fix something that is obviously a stone in people's shoes, and there won't be any fighting. B♭maj7 (talk) Member of the Kara Duhe fan club since 2010 14:14, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * okey dokey. thanks for your help--  14:28, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

TOW
Hi. This is probably a silly question, but I've seen you refer to "TOW" a couple of times. Could you tell me what it stands for? Thanks.--BobSpring is sprung! 19:53, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I forgot. It's just how EDiots refer to Wikipedia.  I heard somewhere it means "the other wiki," but I can't be sure.  At some point the ED article on Wikipedia explained the acronym (assuming it's an acronym.  Could be anglicized Hebrew, lol), but it no longer does so.  Sorry, can't help you.  But, if you want to be popular, that's how the cool kids say it.--  20:45, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Woah woah woah. "The Other Wiki" isn't a purely ED thing. It's fairly common on tvtropes too. 01:04, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not even sure if that's what it means on ED.-- 01:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, it's just that it made some comments incomprehensible - at least to me.--BobSpring is sprung! 06:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

I was mostly talking to Ace, but turns out it was you. Sign your posts and don't act like this is 2009 if you don't want to be called an anachronism
And I explained why I didn't want your easy way out. Ace needs to get his. He has been carrying about like a monkey out of his cage for too long. Now please unblock me.-- 21:50, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Fuck you troll, you and UHM deliberately antagonized and brought negative attention on yourself. What the fuck did you expect asshat? Aceace
 * Unblock my IP too, please. Oh, and I do believe it all started with this...--  21:55, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ace needs "to get his?" my god, are we 5.   Why the fuck don't you just leave ace alone, and he'll leave you alone.  --[[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]<font face="Estrangelo Edessa"><font color="Blue">Godot   Tue pour toujours, et tu veux vivre aussi. 22:08, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That would only encourage him. You don't seem to understand this, do you?  Ace has gone on breaking the rules for a while, now, without any consequences.  Ace must have he is rights removed so that he stops this.  I am not at fault here.  Ace is.  And, though this isn't the most convincing argument, he started it.  People have been flaming and harassing each other me to no end for too long.  This is not a constructive environment.  This wiki is about refuting pseudoscience, not about harassing people you don't like one guy who doesn't seem to get it. --  22:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's why you make no contributions, cause it's not a "constructive" environment. gotcha.  --[[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]<font face="Estrangelo Edessa"><font color="Blue">Godot   Tue pour toujours, et tu veux vivre aussi. 22:42, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If I were you, I wouldn't be trying to tell WfG what she does or doesn't understand.
 * Also, my willingness to keep picking you up and dusting the playground dirt from your knees is rapidly coming to an end as you persist in deliberately tweaking people. It's hard to have sympathy for you under these circumstances.-- 22:46, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Since when do I not make contributions? Anyways, My IP is still blocked.  It seems changing my block to zero seconds didn't work.  Someone please unblock my IP--  00:50, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Try staying out of trouble.  00:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Would someone unfucking block me? Again?
Yes, she said to take it off her talk page. By it, she meant the argument that hadn't really started yet between me and Godot (she's quite the seer, it seems). But I was responding to her and Ace's comments. My second post in that thread was to explain that, and yeah, I took the opportunity to tell off Godot. Hopefully blue can survive that one extra post that made it to her talk page...-- 01:47, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * FFS just wait 2 minutes. 01:49, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was blocked for an hour while I was writing this post and AD changed it to five minutes before I realized it. Very cute, AD.  In two minutes you might just get an indignant harumph on your talk page.  Probably not.--  01:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)