User:Damo/Jinxmchue

Please review Fox's recent edits
Adding material to CP:American Family Association backed solely by a far-left source (and saying he'd "happily add more"), edit warring regarding said material, adding inappropriate material into said article's talk page, etc. Jinxmchue 11:36, 24 July 2008 (EDT)


 * The material is all well sourced, the organizations are all highly regarded. I doubt that Archbishops have any reason to lie. And since when is saying one will "happily add more" references a problem? That's how we show things to be reliable, rather than just your opinion. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 11:41, 24 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Ah, yes. Be sure to check out Fox's dishonest defense of his "sources" (which actually was just one source, and an unabashedly dishonest one to boot!) on the AFA talk page. Jinxmchue 11:46, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Looks as if the irrational ones are extremely interested in this situation and are monitoring it very closely. Can't imagine why... (he said with barely concealed sarcasm). Jinxmchue 11:51, 24 July 2008 (EDT)


 * TWO links, to articles making direct quotations of public figures. I don't like being called "dishonest", and I find it plain ignorant that you also sling the "dishonest" label at a website you know nothing of, and which isn't even one of the sites involved in the two sources, other than as a host. Please be more rigorous in your scrutiny, and cease voicing personal insults towards me. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 12:08, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

We have rules here about unproductive activity, to prevent exactly this sort of prattling on. The two of you are spending an inordinate amount of time throwing random complaints and insults at each other, rather than actually doing productive work like some of the rest of us. Filling up Andy's talk page accusing each other of being parodists is not helpful to the wider project. At least try and settle on a compromise for the AFA article. My recommendation would be to keep Fox's work there, but change the references to point to primary, reliable sources (which should have been the case anyway). I hope this helps. MikeR 14:28, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Contacted by journalist
Andrew, I don't have a current email address for you, but was contacted this afternoon by Peter Hitchens. There are a few matters arising from this that I would like to share/discuss with you, but obviously not on a public forum. שועל (talk|contribs) 13:36, 24 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Sorry, Fox, I was tied up with other matters today. I'll send you an email on this site with my email address for further discussion.--Aschlafly 19:40, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

NOT CRUFT!
In amongst all this ^ meaningless drivel and sycophantry, any chance of a reply to my email? I am concerned that you fail to see that the implications of being viewed in the UK as a hotbed of anti-semitism - particularly when "trusted" editors such as Jinxmchue, Ed Poor and Learntogether are propping up anti-semitic organizations/opinions - by one of the leading conservative commentators, who has expressed - at great length - concerns at being "listed" by this site as having Jewish ancestry, much as the Nazis did, is hanging over us all like the sword of Damocles. Andy, wake up and smell the coffee, please =( We have to ditch these ignorant bigots and get on with creating a conservative encyclopedia. And if nothing else, I spent a day of my time buttering up Hitchens. Five minutes of yours acknowledging that is surely not beyond you.  שועל (talk|contribs) 17:44, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Excuse me? Where, pray tell, have I been "propping up anti-semitic organizations/opinions?"  Please prove your accusation or retract and apologize. Jinxmchue 18:06, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

Excuse me? Where, pray tell, have I been "propping up anti-semitic organizations/opinions?" Please prove your accusation or retract and apologize. Jinxmchue 18:08, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Don't act dumb. Your anti-semitic edits are public domain both here (AFA) and on wikipedia (ChristaianityMeansFreedom). You make me feel dirty. Your deception, and obscenities, might be just a source of sniggers among the white supremacist set in Minnesota, but I don't like them. Much as I don't like you. Go away, Jason, and pray for forgiveness, as I will pray for yours. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 18:25, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * This is really beyond the pale. And I'm sure it's just an amazing coincidence how you brought up an edit from WP that recently was brought up on the [ir]"rational" place. Jinxmchue 18:34, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't care if it was brought up on the Jackanory site, its true, you are a viciously evil anti-semite who will stop at nothing - including attempting to block users who point out your failings - to protect your anti-semitic sites and project your white nationalist anti-semitic edits. Get over it - you've been busted. You are a petty neo-nazi who has spent far too long socking up at wikipedia in order to make vile, hateful edits about Jews, and thought all his birthdays and Christmases came at once when you were given some power here at CP. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 18:39, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * You're trying too hard. Jinxmchue 18:42, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * ORLY? LoL. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 18:44, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Meaning what? That you think that's me? Jinxmchue 18:48, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * We both know its you. Have some shame and some decency and bow out now. That way, you may retain some respect. (Not much, you dirty stinking advocate of child murdering nazi scum, but perhaps a little. ) [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs)
 * Well, no, you actually don't know that and it was not, in fact, me. Enjoy your remaining time. I'm through with your foolishness and I've no doubt that Andy will be, too. Jinxmchue 19:02, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Squirm, nazi, squirm. You left an internet footprint bigger than Sasquatch. Hopefully that was your last edit at CP and the serious ones among us here can now start to build a conservative encyclopedia free from bigotry. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 19:08, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

I have no idea what is going here, or why this is even on my talk page. I clicked on the above link to "nazi scum" thinking it would shed some light on this, but it is to a YouTube excerpt from the movie Schindler's List.

Hopefully other senior Sysops can make a recommendation about this dispute offline. I'm going to delete the above accusations from my user talk page shortly. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 19:53, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * The situation involves the edits by "Jinxmchue" to make/support anti-semitic statements both here and elsewhere. Brushing them under the carpet is not dealing with them. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 19:59, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Furthermore, the movie Schindler's List is a good example of 6 million valid reasons why bigots cannot be tolerated, either here or at WP. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 20:01, 26 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Please quote the statements that you think justify calling him "nazi scum," if you still think that namecalling is justified.--Aschlafly 20:08, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * There are links above relating to his activities on WP where he was blocked for making viciously anti-semitic edits to WP. He has on this website reverted edits to an article detailing its anti-semitism (accusations made by Jewish, Roman Catholic, Lutheran and Mennonite organizations) and attempted to whitewash the whole thing as some kind of liberal smear campaign (forgetting that it wasn't just the Jews who were disgusted). Some people might think that the nazis died with Hitler in 1945. They didn't. But fortunately neither did we Jews, and we'll be damned before we allow blind eyes to be turned and transgressions to be smoothed over to pave the way, intentionally or not, to OUR children being herded into the gas chambers. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 20:15, 26 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Fox, you haven't backed up your extreme namecalling with quotes per my request. This discussion is going to be deleted shortly and please don't ever again call anyone an "advocate of child murdering nazi scum" on this site unless you can really prove it.  Of course we oppose anti-semitism here but I'm not going to allow that kind of unproven namecalling.--Aschlafly 20:25, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * These are the actions of an anti-semite. Anti-semitism and people turning a blind eye to it caused the deaths of 6 million innocent people. 1.5 million of these were children. Children. Just like yours, just like mine. The lucky ones went straight to the gas chambers. The rest were starved and beaten and forced to see things that no man should ever see. The problem is one of perspective: you might think that somebody editing wikipedia pages to offend Jews is just a minor transgression, but Jews, and many non-Jews see it differently. We see it as a continuation of hate. A continuation of suppression and a longing for extermination. Any reasonable person would villify anti-semitism for the viciousness it is linked to. Any person who practices it is condoning the murder of those 1.5 million children. They are "advocating" those "child murdering scum". Worse, some are using their false claims of being "Christian" as a basis for their advocacy. You surely cannot support somebody who does this. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 20:37, 26 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Fox, your extreme namecalling is simply not justified. Your link above refers to a dozens and dozens of edits on Wikipedia.  I scanned through some of them and found nothing that even remotely justifies your extreme namecalling.  You've quoted nothing and you've failed to provide a single link to justify your assertions.  I'm not going to spend all night debating this.  Retract your extreme namecalling, please, and don't repeat it again here.  Thanks and Godspeed.  This is my final comment on this.--Aschlafly 20:47, 26 July 2008 (EDT)


 * I believe this addition of the word "unconverted" (thus forming the phrase "unconverted Jews") has particularly offended Mr. Fox. --Frieda 20:54, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

So deliberately altering a page to link the ADL to "hate" sites along with neo-Nazis is acceptable?? I won't retract anything I've said because it is all backed up by well-documented evidence. You will reap what you sow, Andrew. I just hope that you realize you are liable to reap a whirlwind when you make your site a safe-haven for the sworn-enemies of Judaism שועל (talk|contribs) 21:08, 26 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Okay, I accept your comments in your email. I'm fully prepared to let sleeping dogs lie for now and give him enough rope. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] שועל (talk|contribs) 21:12, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

What about these?
Andy I am new to this site and new to anti-semitism (I don't believe I have ever met a Jewish person) but I do not believe that this site should support people who make of this type of edit. Valley of Horses (note that this is JinxMcHue because of this). Jinx was expelled from Wikipedia here for vandalism and sock puppets. 

He has also defended the edits of a person called ChristianityMeansFreedom as not being antisemetic here which is where I first noticed JinxMcHue. I suggest he is not an appropriate person to have on this site.--DamianJohn 20:40, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

Just FYI
I have had only one username on WP - "Jinxmchue" - which I deliberately locked myself out of in protest. I now only make infrequent edits under my IP address, which I have admitted there. I am not anti-Semitic by any stretch of the imagination. As far as the AFA article here is concerned, I have stated on the article's talk page that I have no problem with the inclusion of the information in question if certain reasonable stipulations are met (which should be easy enough to do). I'll refrain from cluttering up your talk page with squabbles anymore (I'll let you handle the accusations people make from now on), but if you have any questions or concerns, feel free to email me at jinxmchue[at]gmail[dot]com or jinxmchue[at]juno[dot]com. Jinxmchue 20:41, 26 July 2008 (EDT)