Talk:Abstinence ball

Want a LINKY! Cos I don't beleeeeeeeve it!!! Susan The Earth Moved  08:13, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * now that's quick! Susan  The Earth Moved  08:14, 28 February 2008 (EST)


 * I aim to please  purity pledged fundamentalist Christian teenaged girls   -- 08:16, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * I have to admit that when I saw "abstinence ball" I was thinking something else entirely.-- [[Image:Asclepius staff.png|8px]]-PalMD -- 08:44, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * Either: WTF? or "You're a dirty old man!". Susan  The Earth Moved  08:46, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * I Think I recall the exclamation being, "You're never too young to be a dirty old man." >_< Either way, this stuff scares me. Of course, looking back on history, it really was only the girls that had to stay a virgin before marriage, because then the husband would know the kid were theirs. Of course, that was all back when wives and children were property... --Eira omtg! The Goat be praised. 02:17, 20 May 2008 (EDT)
 * That's why I always thought that children should take their mother's "family name" - at least one can be certain who the mother is. human  14:20, 20 May 2008 (EDT)
 * And presumed fathers should take the paternity test before paying alimony to feed other guy's genes. --Putin2.jpg Brasov 18:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You seem to be under the false impression that "dad" is really much more then a social institution. Genetic parents and mom and dad are different things.--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 13:18, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Genetic father and dad are different things only if the second gives informed consent. Otherwise it's a fraud punishable by law. Paternity fraud is being committed by women at a grand scale, for as many as 30% of presumed fathers paying child support were found not to be the biological fathers: Paternity Fraud Rampant in US --Putin2.jpg Brasov 13:17, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No, 30% of paternity disputes which were settled by DNA paternity test proved that the presumed father in that case was not the biological father. That doesn't equate to 30% of all men paying child support.  13:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The overall paternity fraud rate, as per article above, is 14% in California. Rampant like a disease. --Putin2.jpg Brasov 17:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merely the ESS for female mating strategy. Dirk Steele (talk) 17:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The strategy is only possible where the memes of presumed paternity and child support are invented and enforced, so it's hardly evolutionary. In contrast, men's true ESS of spreading their sperm and moving on has long been repressed by laws. --Putin2.jpg Brasov 18:05, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Expression of genes depends on the current environment surely? We have just been waiting for the opportunities to arise. And the 'laws' of which you speak are ineffectual. Just go visit South Croydon in the UK and you will learn much. (Ok a joke for us Brits to enjoy) ;-) Dirk Steele (talk) 18:17, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Occasions of paternity disputes will be a subset of men paying child support, which will be a further subset of men with children they accept as being their own. The men in question have (what they see) as a reasonable suspicion that the child is not theirs - and 70% of the time they are proved wrong.

How much do abstinence balls contribute to sessions, in due course, with Freudian-orientated psychiatrists? 31.51.113.225 (talk) 09:24, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Tonal shifts
The article currently leaps rather awkwardly between discussions of rape and incest and lighthearted snarky material. The two can co-exist, but it maybe needs more thought given to transitions and arrangement of content. --Annanoon (talk) 09:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)