Talk:First past the post

This is also the only non-socialist method of elections, IRV, and MMPV promote minorities in the name of "fairness" whilst stripping the majority of its rights and freedoms. Talsley (talk) 18:11, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Can someone please translate the above word salad into english please? CopperheadHisssssss 18:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It is perfectly clear. You are simply an idiot. Talsley (talk) 18:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you stop spamming your crap all over the place? It's starting to look a mess. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 19:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Not until it is cleaned up of the left-wing propaganda and is a truly rational scientific wiki rather than atheist anti-science communist wiki. Talsley (talk) 19:11, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Rennie McGreet (talk) 19:33, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * And of all the pages in the wiki.... *Takes a shot* TyAnnoy 19:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Explain how this is not collectivism and suborning the will of the people to overpowered minority rule. Talsley (talk) 19:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What FPTP? Or IRV/MMPV? Тy rannosaurs 19:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The latter. Talsley (talk) 19:35, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

=Least effective?=

I understand RationalWiki articles include opinions, but I assume the author(s) actually intend to mean something else. Saying that FPTP is the least effective democratic system assumes you can't make it worse and there are many artificial ways to add biases and other stupid things (see the US electoral college system, which is FPTP plus some other bad stuff). What FPTP actually is is an (objectively) inferior voting system (also could be phrased as "obsolete"), since if you turn a FPTP into an AV system you would not lose anything good about FPTP and reduce the likelihood of the spoiler effect. So I suggest a change to that or some quantification of "least effective democratic system", like "least effective democratic system used today". 94.0.10.147 (talk) 21:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)