Talk:Mind-Energy forum/Archive1

Funny business happening here
Seems like things are getting archived quite quickly here for reasons that I'm not fully cognizant of. Does anyone know what is so terribly offensive/wrong that we are (almost) effectively allowing people to delete topics off this talk-page? Tielec01 (talk) 06:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * IT seems that somebody wants to keep some conversations hidden. Something which is completely against RW policy. The same thing happens on the talk page of User:Forests--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 07:15, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It's part of some tedious internet conflict between persons known as Forests, Eveshi, MU & probably other things, that has nothing to do with RW & that nobody at RW cares about, but seems to keep reappearing here for some reason. Frankly, I'm more confused about why timestamps on this page now say things like "today" & "last Friday".  08:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Mr Jon Dennis was owned by MU Lars here as you can see it is the same avatar as used by Mr. Snotgern, so Snotgern = an associate employee of Rome Viharo and Eveshi Forests? Romo Viharo Jon Donnis Forests Eveshi in ectoplasm suit (talk) 22:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Article deletion
Why was this article just deleted?--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 09:47, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No idea. At bare minimum, a vote should've been held. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 09:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The quote section has to go, for sure. --Kels (talk) 11:39, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

DD Home
"Open Mind Spiritualist" removed a sentence about Daniel Dunglas Home, claiming that "Home is not mentioned anywhere on the forum". I won't comment on the veracity of the original sentence, but that claim is demonstrably false.--ZooGuard (talk) 18:55, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Edit comment also mentions "Original research" This is not a reason for removal.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 20:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It's an attack on a person, so would need a good cite that it's a deserved one to put back I'd think - David Gerard (talk) 11:31, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree. But that wasn't one of the two reasons given for the deletion.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 13:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

So, which website is this article about?
The current title is "Skeptiko forum" after David1234 moved it on 10 November, ostensibly because "The forum has changed name". The link in the External links section now points to http://www.skeptiko.com/forum/, which appears to be functional, but the quotes and the majority of references still point to http://forum.mind-energy.net, which still seems to be active (e.g. there are posts from yesterday, etc.). Did Skeptiko get a dedicated forum hosted on their own domain, or? In order words, the article continues to be confused crap, which is not helped by the habit of its chief author to use sock puppets and wimp out when challenged. --ZooGuard (talk) 14:53, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Jon Donnis and Rome Viharo from the JREF forum were behind the vandalism... I have spoken to both of them, they are not doing it anymore, so you will have a clean page from now on. Cheers. Paul Anagnostopoulos (talk) 08:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * huh? You spoke with me? really? oh! wait sorry I forget you're probably writing that so it can be used as a reliable source on this forum. Sorry guys Ive never even heard of Jon Donnis and the whole psychic thing aint my bag. but please dont let those things get in the way! whatever you think, there is proof out there that will confirm it! RomeViharo (talk) 07:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

The original plan was for Alex Tsakiris to create a new forum and then merge the old forum into it, but Jacob the owner of the forum has fallen out with Alex, so two different forums now exist. This is not helped by Alex claiming the Skeptiko forum is the new Mind-Energy and has taken all the old members. Jacob last month said the Mind-Energy might be closing down by the end of this year because of little traffic but I don't think that's true. There's two different forums. One of the reasons Alex wanted to create a new forum is to let all users on it and not just believers, as on the Mind-Energy skeptics were not aloud to join or were quickly banned. On the new Skeptiko forum is a new section called "Believer & Skeptic Debates". As for sock-puppets - Donnis of bad psychics fame (who has previously ?temporarily? banned on this website and elsewhere) is involved in creating fake accounts of Eveshi, MU and Forests. David1234 most likely is Donnis, you can tell by the obsession with debunking mediums and ultra poor grammar. Skeptic12 (talk) 15:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)