Talk:Kiwi Farms

fascism category
I removed the category for it not being comfortably applicable to Kiwi Farms. Kiwi Farms's userbase is faschy but the site itself not really. It's a weird conglomeration of internet extremists and criminals that try to harm people, but it's not a website primarily espousing fascism. My edit got reverted however The "alt-right" category fits this site better anyway, and fascism IS covered underneath it. 01:40, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Should the article mention that some RationalWiki users were also interested in Kiwi Farms?
According to Similarweb at one point, RationalWiki users also showed interest in Kiwi Farms. Should this be mentioned in the article? Obviously, it's not something to be proud of, but it could be included to more objectively cover the topic. Fja2021 (talk) 10:06, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * and irrelevance aside, Similarweb is shit. According to the current snapshot, Similarweb lists (aka Kevin Alfred Strom's neo-Nazi webshite) as a "competitor". WTF? There's some other less stark but still strange associations, such as SimilarWeb thinking that RationalWiki has a lot of  fans. Maybe? BobJohnson (talk) 13:25, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Why does everyone rush to call this guy 'Moon'?
His Mom's last name is Potter. There is a CV floating around suggesting "Josh"s actual name is James Potter. The only reason I think people call him Moon is that is the name he gave to people, and so everyone just took it as fact... Investigator (talk) 19:36, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * His father's surname is Moon; that's why.

Vanwatech
Apparently it's down. 19:53, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Snapshot from 11 May 2023: "VanwaTech LLC has suspended all services." —cosmikdebris talk stalk 20:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Does this mean that the Daily Stormer is also down?
 * No, both Daily Stormer and 8Kun are up. Not sure where they went.
 * Kiwi Farms is down on the clearnet. Just looking at the archives of the public RSS of their telegram feed it appears they were DDOSed and had a server crash. I guess they have a .onion up, meh. It sounds like Mr. Moon is convinced that one specific person is targeting him, but who knows. Moon has made many enemies over the years, and unlike the other two sites as far as I know, seems to want to continue to flirt with illegal harassment and doxxing activity (I haven't heard any "troll storms" from Anglin since the default judgments in the late 2010s, and after the 8Chan inspired terrorism, 8kun has been reduced to a barely active QAnon whackjob site). Instability at Kiwi Farms therefore is not surprising. BobJohnson (talk) 21:11, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, well it's not so surprising to me, and honestly I will not shed any tears for them if one person is DDoSing them, because they abso-fucking-lotely deserve it

is it dead?
it has been down for over a week at the time of writing this, and honestly seems like it finally, truly might be dead. 2601:281:D880:DED0:A56C:EA1F:AF7:71A7 (talk) 23:53, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Per the latest Telegram, the site has been taken off the clearnet for a bit. I'm guessing he's having a tough time finding a host. Tor sucks so I don't buy his "make people more aware of how to access the site by Tor" excuse.
 * The SSL for his .onion was even revoked for a bit! I'm actually surprised the cert company gave it back to him. Apparently they use Harica for their .onion SSL, which is based in Greece. Greece, of course, is part of the EU, and while from what I can tell it is unclear what responsibilities, if any, a provider of services has for customer privacy violations, doing business as an EU member with a customer that is such a blatant violation of GDPR as Kiwi Farms is sounds awfully risky. Meaning, it's easy to visualize that if a member of the EU being involved in the next Kiwi Farms headline, all of a sudden any EU company involved in any way will be in the spotlight in quite the negative fashion.
 * And LOL @ Moon whines about technology companies. First of all, if you don't want to be thought of as cybermurders, don't have a decade history of harassing and bullying people to suicide. Second of all, if you don't want technology companies to put a spotlight on your ass, don't bully so bad that you get the full attention of who probably knows way more technical shit than you do. (Plus, I have no doubt that there are other nerds sympathetic to making Kiwi Farms' existence as miserable as possible based on history such as the "Near" bullying-suicide incident).BobJohnson (talk) 01:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, well thanks for explaining it to me. A somebody. (talk) 02:35, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Is it now finally dead?
I'm sorry for asking this again, but it is truly, finally dead? Is the webshite buried 6 feet under and has almost no chance of coming back? A somebody. (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2023 (UTC)