RationalWiki talk:Fundraiser

John
Hi, I'm some anonymous asshole who's too lazy to learn how wiki conversations are supposed to work. The PBS model is made of fail. Why are you not on subscription crowdfunding (eg Patreon?) I guarantee you'd make more money that way - if your fundraisers created ongoing rather than one time gifts.&mdash; Unsigned, by: 73.162.197.215 / talk / contribs


 * You can do subscriptions through PayPal too - David Gerard (talk) 16:19, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hm. That could work... 04:50, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Survival
How do we survive that much on $5k a year? —ℓσωℓу ѕуѕσρ вιgℓʝвιgℓ σf gσαтιѕтαи (ωσя∂ѕ σf ωιѕ∂σм/α¢нιєνємєитѕ) 20:48, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Most of the shit doesn't move forward, legally, to where we'd have to respond. 20:57, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * So it’s mostly just trolls who go too far. —ℓσωℓу ѕуѕσρ вιgℓʝвιgℓ σf gσαтιѕтαи (ωσя∂ѕ σf ωιѕ∂σм/α¢нιєνємєитѕ) 23:03, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

I would never donate to this website
This website supports anti-religious opinions and Christian abuse. I would never be able to support it in any way as long as it continues this way, and I wish it wasn't receiving as much support as it currently is. I would prefer having the entire site shut down, to be honest. I don't think the death threats were called for by any means, but this site is awful. I'm not saying this just to make people mad, I'm saying it because it needs to be said.
 * , please sign your talk page comments and place them at the end of the page. яεvεятεя σғ ωαη∂αℓιsм, ραтяσℓℓεя σғ ε∂ιтs, ΓУППЯ ・「ҭагк」・асђіεѵеϻԑηтѕ・тіме: 14:52, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * We don’t care if you are hurt by a joke. And we couldn’t care less. 04:49, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Surprised this site is still alive
Surprised this site is still alive due to consistent display of ideological bias and censorship of differing opinions. Last time I posted something like this on a Fundraiser page it was deleted so I won't waste time writing the details--198.71.112.21 (talk) 23:38, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Aw, diddums den. Did a nasty website disagree with his warped opinions? Poor little BON. Scream!! (talk) 19:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Now, I went and thought to myself, "who could this person be?" and then I thought to myself, "Why not check the record for deleted comments with a similar or identical tone?" Guess what? The most promising candidate is... User:LogicMaster777 and his BoN alter ego!!! 20:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not this Logic Master, but thanks for digging up those very important points.--198.71.112.21 (talk) 02:02, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Fun fact: rationalism is an ideology. It's not the ideology you're complaining about, but it's definitely the one that provides the strongest bias throughout the site.  This doesn't answer your concerns at all, which is why I called it a fun fact.  ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 23:54, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 * tbh RationalWiki is mostly an anti-rationalist and pro-empiricist website 04:50, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Fucking goddamn continentals. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Icon fedora.svg *tips fedora* Icon fedora.svg 14:24, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Change?
Wasn't the goal 7000 dollars?184.181.12.187 (talk) 17:49, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No. Spud (talk) 16:15, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It’s $3,500 04:50, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Charity Fraud
I quote from the Master of Logic:
 * You have no idea how fraud works, and neither does "LogicMaster777". Here's a hint, if your opinion of someone's position is based around what they call themselves, you need to step back from all your opinions and reassess your methods, because that's just plain stupid. 02:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Your comment is just plain stupid. Taking donations under false pretenses IS fraud. What RationalWiki "call themselves" is an expectation of what the donations are being used for, and since the donations are not being used for their intended purpose we have a clear case of fraud.--198.71.112.21 (talk) 09:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * They (the donations) are being used to run the website, whose goals are to refute pseudoscience and not to censor. The administrators make sure this is fulfilled. Hence there is no fraud. 04:46, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

A query not made of bile
Firstly, congrats on you guys' growth over the past year. While I don't really read any of your material for information, I do occasionally read it for entertainment at the snark factor, so I thought I should make a donation and did.

A couple of questions:

1) Do you really run it at that low a financial level? I realise you could run the servers at that level, but I'd have thought some of the other costs of running might overdo it - any knowledge on what annual expenses are like?

2) Does the banner at the top update/at what frequency to give the amount raised? 5.62.58.45 (talk) 19:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I can't answer the 1st question, as I'm fairly unfamiliar with the goings on here, but as for question 2, apparently it updates when Trent (or possibly someone else with server access) refreshes it. At least that was the answer I got when I asked similar question couple of years ago.Coigreach (talk) 19:11, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, everyone is a volunteer, and the money goes to pay our hosting - a few hundred dollars a month - David Gerard (talk) 15:44, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Any way to donate without Paypal?
Hey, first of all, I love this website. And would like to contribute to my part as much as i can. However, PayPal is blocked in Ottoman Empire Turkey and Paypal does not accept payments from Turkey. So Turkey is not listed on the list of countries on credit card donation page. Is there any way i could donate without Paypal getting involved?

Make the banner dynamic!
Or maybe not? Perhaps I saw it and made sure to donate because I thought I might be the first to do so... Cheers! ColinRtalk 01:00, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Remove the banner from the main page...
The donations banner is humungous. Fine, if we are running dry on cash but at least can anyone somehow remove it from the main page? That should not what the first thing people see after coming here. It can be on every article, fine, but shouldn’t be in the special pages, user pages, talk pages or community pages. 04:54, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The banner should also be removed from this page as well. It already talks about fundraising and would give the site a little more professionalism. 06:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

No one has donated even a single dollar to this website
Ha!
 * Ever notice how the most obnoxious people are anonymous? Indy (talk) 19:50, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Usually takes a little bit. Give it time. 17:14, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I did, but the donations bar doesn't doesn't update automatically, but only when someone (Trent or Gerard I think) updates it manually. 17:18, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You are correct. The donations bar does not update automatically. In the past, Trent has appeared every couple of days with an update. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 19:30, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I did from another device, and I thought that there is something wrong with my original iPad lol. 08:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I donated 31 hours ago and the counter still says zero. It is definitely not real-time. Indy (talk) 19:49, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * So BoN2001whatever, 26.5 hours after your lame trolling we're officially over 20% into the set goal. How do you like them apples? 23:47, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Coigreach, you appear to be replying to my comment. Are you accusing me of lame trolling? I was merely pointing out that I had not yet seen my donation show up. Indy (talk) 13:36, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry Indy, meant to direct my drunken prod towards the BoN who started this topic. I just generally indent one further than the previous comment. 13:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my bad... I was worried I came across improperly. :-) I love these clowns who taunt before they should. It's like obnoxious sports fans taunting everyone with their greatness right before they choke. :-) Peace! Indy (talk) 13:45, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

i suspect if it were really so that no one had or was going to donate, who updates running total would make it up to give the appearance of people donating and invested enough with the site to invest cash as well (or instead of, who knows?) time. then maybe bring down he site via a cyber attack of some sort before its shut done because the rent hasnt been paid. or set up a gofundme page. people pledge monies on that thing on any old shite, if you ask nicely. or work out how much server space each users edits amount to and send out bills. or find a sugar daddy. or just ignore all the fucknuts we've got pages on like normal people, go outside and feel sunshine on our skin and the breeze through our hair, get all light headed and then run back inside, and have huge flame wars over on pokemonwiki. or buy some goats, be a goatherd, and sell whatever it is that would make herding goats worthwhile. or give jesus another ago. whatever we all decide to do with ourselves when rationalwiki really does die, i hope we can all look back on this time together and say to ourselves 'remember that time when? and remember that guy? 'where is so ans so now? what fucking prick they were, i hope they died alone and in unbearable agony, friendless and childless, and never having known love' then wipe single tear from our eyes and take another hit of your chosen poison in honour of the good old days, before everything exploded/flooded/went south/sorted itself out/the accident (delete as applicable)AMassiveGay (talk) 14:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry... could you repeat that? Indy (talk) 19:17, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Question about xmr
Hello I am in country that is not safe to view website (I am using vpn). Can i use monero to pay for private safety reason ? thanks

Non-American contributor donation query
As a limey redcoat, would there be any issues with me donating? I know some American charities and foundations don't allow foreign donations, as it may cause issues with relevant tax laws eg 501(c) and charitable status. Euromec (talk) 08:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)