Fun talk:Cider

I propose this be split into USA and Rest of the World Versions.--Bobbing up 14:49, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I propose that we mercilessly suppress the US version entirely. -- AKjeldsen Potential fundamentalist! 15:00, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Globalization is inevitable. I propose outsourcing the article to India along with all of the authors. 15:04, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I propose deleting the article alltogether: beer is the only correct pub & party drink. (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 15:10, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, it seems that the Beer article existed, but was deleted. Some double standards here... :-D (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 15:12, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Beer is deleted? Shum mistake?--Bobbing up 15:33, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay, as an American foodie, I'm extremely offended by almost everything that was said in this exchange. First, yes, there should be a Beer article, and to have anything even remotely geeky without beer is embarrassing and inexcusable. Second, American != bad. There's hard cider, there's soft cider. Both are generally quite good (though there really is no excuse for Magner's). Deal with it. EVDebs 22:16, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Johnny Appleseed
see Pollan, Michael: The Botany of Desire: A Plant's-Eye View of the World, 2002, Random House, ISBN-13: 9780375760396

America's own Johnny Appleseed was mostly a real-estate genius who saw where settlers were liable to move in soon, got himself an orchard lot there, and planted apple seeds. Anyone familiar with the way apples grow from seed will not be surprised to learn that the settlers were not interested in eating the apples from the saplings they bought, but pressing them for cider, which would preserve itself through the winter by becoming slightly alcoholic. This fact, along with Johnny's fondness for very young girls, has been neglected in the wholesome schoolbook accounts of the part he played in the taming of the American wilderness. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 22:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

German cider
There is a part of Germany called Hesse where people drink a an extremely sour and pretty alcoholic (5-10%) variant of cider (and pretty much nothing else), called "Ebbelwei" (apple wine) in the local dialect. Since that region (around Frankfurt) is the world's largest producer of cider, it should be included. Maybe including the fact that Ebbelwei is a beverage that only starts to taste good after the seventh glass.


 * That's incredibly on-topic. Added - David Gerard (talk) 17:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)