User talk:Miekal/Archive1

Welcome. Exactly What It Says On The Tin. 04:08, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:WIGOCP captures
I very much appreciate your willingness to wade through the river of vomit that is Conservapedia to dig out the best posts for people to laugh or gape at. However, I notice that many of your diff links, instead of linking to "conservapedia.com/index.php…", link to "conservapedia.com./index.php…", with an extra period between the "com" and "/". This doesn't cause any problems in-browser (at least for me), but it seems to prevent CaptureBot from taking and uploading a screenshot. It's usually easy to fix later or to just follow the link, but I wanted to give you a heads-up on the off-chance you catch Ken doing something weird that he then deletes or oversights after five minutes, so it isn't lost to the sands of time. «-Bfa-» 16:58, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Please, won't you think of the children?
Hi there. Generally speaking, the first letter of the title of a new section is capitalized, as are proper names. Not like this. We're trying to at least look smart here. Thanks. P-FosterCan't we talk about this, baby? 01:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Are your userboxes all true? You've got an interesting set of beliefs there. Senator Harrison (talk) 10:27, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * More or less. the Capitalism-communism one is just there because i wanted more userboxes--Mikalos209 (talk) 12:27, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * So you are a YEC, or is that a more userboxes one? Тy talk 13:54, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes to the former, no to the latter--Mikalos209 (talk) 21:47, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh huh. Тy talk 01:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm?--Mikalos209 (talk) 03:28, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Block
Unless you're really serious about a block, don't block for more than a few seconds. Generally, the block log is used as a sort of instant-message communication, broadcast over Recent Changes, but if you make the duration 5 minutes then it is actually going to probably inconvenience someone when they try to save the edit they're working on. If you do want to be serious, then the first venue is someone's talk page. Don't block first - talk first. Just the general scheme of things, I think.-- 00:54, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, it just gave me more time to search for pr0n for my next post, but the general point is correct. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 00:55, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Section heading in TWIGO.
Stop ruining all the fun/funny, please. B♭maj7 “We are moving too fast for any label to stick.”-CLRJ 03:50, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey
So why revert my on-topic contribution to WIGO-talk? Its not crack-pottery I promise. Ateafish (talk) 22:11, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't do that edit

Coop
Your general abuse, trolling, and conflicts which cannot be solved through normal talk page discussion has been reported to RationalWiki:Chicken_coop. May God have mercy on your soul. nobsI am a fugitive from an ideological fever swamp 00:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And then it got removed --Mikalos209 (talk) 00:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I moved it. You guys can duke it out on the talk page but I'm not seeing any actual policy breach. 00:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well Nutty, there are still several unresolved issues I am in contact with CP sysops over. For example, this incident reported here was a major factor in pushing reform at the time I did. Karajou posted to the mailing list 5 times about his discussion with Berlet and he was ignored. Then he blocked Berlet, when in simple fairness, the guy certainly should be allowed to respond to what Conservapedia writes about him. And Karajou's block was for ideology and no other reason, (as supported by the diff) although Karajou denies it. Karajou never once checked who created the entry on Berlet, or did a search of mailing list archives as me & TK discussed Berlet many times. Karajou not only violated all the rules of Conservapedia in his treatment of Berlet, he violated simple civility and common sense. The man is out of control and doesn't realize the harm he did to Conservapedia in his treatment of Berlet. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 01:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm with you dude but I think you're driving Mikalos crazy.  01:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And? He hasn't done nearly as much as Andy himself has--Mikalos209 (talk) 01:45, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Look what Berlet writes about Andy's mother, and I get de-sysoped and blocked for trying to defend against this kind of stuff. You don't think there's a story here? My God, Berlet snapped the photo of Phyliss Schlafly Wikipedia used for several years in its article (see RobSmith to SDG, Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:55:57 -0600, "Heads up, Andy"). nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 02:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I coluldn't care less about berlet tbh.--Mikalos209 (talk) 02:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yah well if the private mailing list stuff isn't leaked, and Conservaleaks isn't updated, it's gonna be your fucking fault. Just mind your own goddamn fucking business and stop hounding me. I call God and the Community as my witness. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 02:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't let Rob bully you like that. He's trying to turn the mob against you with their hunger for e-mails written by the community of hateful boorish retards of which he was a proud and longstanding member. Keep doing what you're doing. B♭maj7 "If two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong." 02:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rob, i don't CARE if the fucking emails are leaked or not. I don't give a shit if "Conservaleaks" get added too or not. What i do care about is how you keep bitching about how unfair CP is like nobody here knows it. So go ahead, blame me if you can't bring yourself to publish the emails about people who hate you and will never care about you again.--Mikalos209 (talk) 02:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I ain't bitching shit, I'm having a policy discussion with CP sysops. Jesus Christ you are dense as a fucking board, or maybe as dense as a CP sysop. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 02:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * With WHO Rob? The guy who blocked you for infinity? The guy who you fought with directly and is the current #2, Andy who stripped you of your rights and did the initial block? Terry who couldn't care less about you anyways? Who. Who the fuck are you discussing Policy with and where is the magic replies they seem to have? --Mikalos209 (talk) 02:54, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yah well maybe hearing what you bitch about from me actually gets read by them. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 03:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And? --Mikalos209 (talk) 03:02, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And bend over and stick a cucumber up your ass, if that's your pleasure. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 03:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And you have again lost any highground of maturity you migt have had. I am very curious now though Rob, what Sysops are you having a discussion with? Care to name them? Because so far they are as existant as the people Ken said supported him against you.--Mikalos209 (talk) 03:05, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fuck you. None of you goddamn business. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 03:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you Rob, At this time i am inclined to think your magical Sysops at CP you discuss with do not exist And im sorry, you aren't my type--Mikalos209 (talk) 03:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at this logically, only Andy, Ken, TerryH, Karajou and Ed are left as far as ranking sysops. Ken and Karajou were the ones that pushed Rob and TerryH, as evidenced by Robs email, isn't to enamored by Rob either. So that leaves Ed and Andy. Ed won't do anything and Andy won't do anything unless pushed....so that leaves...no one. Aceace 03:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Andy showed what side he was on already, and we still have Joaquín, whatever use he might be to Rob,--Mikalos209 (talk) 03:10, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well this is an interesting discussion your having amongst yourselves. Now, the question is, to what objective? I am going to take the naive position probably uppermost in both your minds, and that would be the unblocking or perhaps re-sysoping of User:RobSmith, correct? Well, dear sirs, neither if you know or understand Rob Smith. For example, I was unfairly banned for one year in Wikipedia. For one year I neither sockpuppetted nor discussed with Mr. Daniel Brandt the reason for my banning, as per WP policy AGF (AGF was policy at that time, not guideline). After one year, my appeal was rejected and I was rebanned for asking for rehearing and Finding of Fact. It was at that point I approached Mr. Brandt and spilled my guts as to what I knew about the background and cause of all his problems with Wikipedia (BLP was started because of the Daniel Brandt controversy). I had proof positive high-level wiki admins intentionally, and maliciously, defamed Brandt. This of course, set off a new round of wiki-wars and policy proposals to deal with outing and harassment. To sum it up, I was more effective in helping to shape wikipedia content and user policies from outside, using their arch-nemesis the WikipediaReview forum, than being an active user. Now I know you guys just like to play on wikis. That's fine. but ultimately getting the job done is all that matters, but I know all this is just lost on you guys. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 03:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Much of what you write is completely lost me. Aceace 03:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a surprise. Why don't you just stay the fuck away then from things you don't understand. nobsabandon hope all ye who enter here. 03:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Because, douchebag, that's how you learn - by studying things you don't yet understand. For example I am totally perplexed by your hostility towards me. I thought we were friends and had many a pleasant email exchange. Aceace 04:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rob, I don't care what you did on wikipedia. I really don't. wAnt to know why? I use wikipedia to learn useless facts when i dont feel like wasting 5 hours on tvtropes. I don't honestly care about the internal policy, and I haven't since the fun days on the Kosovo recognition talkpage. Said disinterest is because it isn't important. Not because i am apparently an idiot.--Mikalos209 (talk) 04:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Wait, what?
You're a biblical literalist? --B♭maj7 "If two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong." 01:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * yah?--Mikalos209 (talk) 02:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What the fuck are you doing in this cesspit? B♭maj7 "If two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong." 02:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * -shrugs- Dislike of CP.--Mikalos209 (talk) 02:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That'll do. Also; history? Grad student thereof? B♭maj7 "If two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong." 02:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha!, thats not for a few more years >.> --Mikalos209 (talk) 02:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Don't do it. The future for academics in the humanities is ugly. Learn a trade. B♭maj7 "If two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong." 02:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * h yes, i know that. Problem is, i don't have to many useful trade skills, or interest.--Mikalos209 (talk) 02:54, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Concerning the biblical literalism, to paraphrase U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, in what century do you spend most of your time? 03:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 21'st.

--Mikalos209 (talk) 03:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Finishing a little debate.
Honestly, I`m really tired right now, I`ll respond fully in the morning, or tomorrow afternoon. --DurbinatorDurbinating 05:07, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you have a point saying that I am emphasizing one part of God, His loving nature, over another. However I don`t think that I`m necessarily emphasizing that one part more than I should. --DurbinatorDurbinating 14:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And you can probably say the same to me, although I see the loving part in his justice part--SmithRob (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Saving my own Parthian Shot cause I can
My statement --SmithRob (talk) 01:35, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

CP talk
I didn't intentionally revert your post. I was trying to undo the upcock perpetated by Nasshinton. And Fuck You! Scream!! (talk) 17:43, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I figured :P--SmithRob (talk) 17:44, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Kids should be in school..
..Not blocking vandals on CP. go study something. 76.180.192.15 (talk) 02:00, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * why would i register for classes at 9 pm? I'd rather not.--Mikalosa (talk) 02:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I realise, and wasn't trying to suggest,
That you werren't hiding anything I just wanted to check if I was remembering corerctly. I do think your extension of the block to infinity is total shit though. Oldusgitus (talk) 17:19, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably but, not like he was coming back via that account anyways, and I simpley saved wasted time later.--Mikalosa (talk) 17:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Userbox
Suffers depression eh? I get crazy insane panic attacks sometimes which are preceded by a couple of days of mania and followed by a period of depression. Suck sometimes. Aceace 01:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yah. I don't have it so much now but sometimes it comes up again.--Mikalosa (talk) 01:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * me neither. Just occasionally these days. Aceace 01:32, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Woop for getting better!--Mikalosa (talk) 01:32, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll never get better - just doesn't bother me as much anymore. Aceace 01:33, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Getting better as not as worse.--Mikalosa (talk) 01:34, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

CP sockpuppets
You do realise that just because Karajerk claims someone is a sock of SteveK that doesn't actually mean it's true, right? --Longbow (talk) 12:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep. But he woulda been banned soon enough anyways. Plus generally puppet masters get banned with puppets, and officially he was a sockpuppet master, whether the official history is true or not is sorta irrelevant. --Mikalosa (talk) 13:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It may be sorta irrelevant at CP, but most people generally think whether something's true or not is sorta VERY relevant. The fact is that Karajou is working himself into a paranoid frenzy. He pretty much blocks EVERY new user and his raving about sockpuppets is just a sign of his declining mental state. Anyway, the fact that Karajou is a dick is no reason for you to act like one. --Longbow (talk) 14:02, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * True but I cant really undo it now, now can I?--Mikalosa (talk) 20:30, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok sorry, but let me get this straight..
..You believe in the Bible literally and a YEC, but you also believe in equal rights for gay people? 76.180.192.15 (talk) 23:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * pretty sure Mikalos is a sock of Rob. Aceace 23:51, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * @Ace, oh my yes obviously. Fuckin communists here. | @ IP person,Yep. I believable in civil rights and all that jazz for all people (within reason), but I don't necessarily AGREE with the choices they make. --Mikalosa (talk) 23:53, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * So would that include gay marriage? You are quite interesting, must be from the Midwest or northwest. 76.180.192.15 (talk) 23:58, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am from Nebraska actually, conservaland. And yes. The fact one of my best friends (And former GF) is a lesbian sorta requires me to not be hatefull as well.--Mikalosa (talk) 00:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Good, cuz I'm as gay as they cum. 72.231.253.191 (talk) 00:07, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ha, ok.--Mikalosa (talk) 00:08, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Spam


I'm spamming you with nonsense. 04:52, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

No, and please don't edit my talk page in such a fashion without permission (leave posts, but don't change the title. thx)
From what I know of Christianity, Ace's posited fuck-all attitude is out of touch with its teaching. Or are you some sort of Post-Modern Christian? Also, I mowed over your comment because of an edit conflict. Feel free to add it back in, just don't changed the title again. That's all.-- 01:53, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't do that again. You really skewed the conversation.  Granted, it was little more than an inconvenience, but it was an especially infuriating one.  I would remind you that my sysop rights were removed (for abusive blocks. ironic, no?), and that I cannot unblock myself.--  01:54, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You know what kind of christian i am. At the same time, i spend a lot of time with people who dont share the same values(Something Awful Goons, /b/tards, that ilk), so i have a relaxed view on how others act. an ok And i didnt know your rights were gone, sorry. and i readded your comment--Mikalosa (talk) 01:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Let's let bygones be bygones.  Anyways, Ace attacks people.  Do you tolerate that?  The discussion is not so much about what Ace believes, but rather about how Ace acts.  Ace acts without considering the feelings of others.  I evoked his values to see if I could gain some clarity on this attitude of his, or even convince him to stop his behavior.  --  02:04, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I dont neccesarily agree with him doing it, but it also isnt really hurting people (or, it shouldnt be). if it relly does hurt people then he should stop but... til then what can one do?--Mikalosa (talk) 02:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Try and convince him to stop, enforce the rules upon him, or create rules to curb his behavior.-- 02:14, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Not my place, at all :/--Mikalosa (talk) 02:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm curious
Why are you here? 01:02, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ? Why wouldn't I be?--il&#39;Dictator Mikalosa (talk) 03:04, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You are a biblical literalist on a website that opposes biblical literalism. 03:09, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * As do most of the people I hang out with. Whats your point?--il&#39;Dictator Mikalosa (talk) 03:30, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems rather odd. 03:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * -shrugs- I'm not exactly a normal person. And just similar interests, plus on here a dislike of CP--il&#39;Dictator Mikalosa (talk) 03:36, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I like his attitude. 76.180.192.15 (talk) 09:30, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you shared what you know about literalism or inerrancy here? We were working on some of the exegetical stuff this summer. Any help would be appreciated. 02:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * As I said earlier, im terrible at wiki article writing and not good at expressing my thoughts either for stuff like that--il&#39;Dictator Mikalosa (talk) 02:25, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well any insight you have would be helpful. If you have a look at some of the hermeneutics pages we have no idea what we're doing. 02:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

user page
"(obviously the above isn't true, if you thought it was your insane and/or Rob)" - perhaps "you're"? Just noticed this and thought I'd help. :) άλφα Ταλκ 13:47, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Danke!--il&#39;Dictator Mikalosa (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Willkommen! άλφα Ταλκ 13:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Wiki this, wiki that
Hey, mon. It's the Col. from Ameriwiki. Are you interested in further contributions there? If so, I am now a crat there and I could probably get away with promoting you to Trusted Editor (George and SamC finally got the new user rights structure working). I think Sam wanted you to write about astronomy-see your talk page on the new site. Anyway, just a little perk I could possibly throw in for ya.

Also, just avoid CP. Keep your account banned. Except for James and CPalmer, they seem to be trolls there.--Colonel Sanders (talk) 14:50, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Rob, me, you and dirty dirty socks.
Shall we tease Rob a little more about our dirty "socking"? Aceace 01:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not.--il&#39;Dictator Mikalosa (talk) 01:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Don't go too far
I still need you as a sock. AceAce For Mod! 05:21, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Name
So it's "Mik" as in "MICKey," "uh" as in "dUH," and "los" as in "LOS niños"? Sounds Greek. I always said it in my head as "mih-KAY-los." 22:19, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

So . ..
I'll admit, I am curious. Why were you asking? What are your goals? I thought you were temporarily retired. -- Bertrc (talk) 21:52, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * So . . . in answer to my question . . . at the moment . . . you feel like confusing the new guy?! :-)  You never told me what your goals are, btw.  -- Bertrc  (talk) 21:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Make fun of CP, theres a reason i spend so much time on WIGO:cp and the SB--il&#39;Dictator Mikal (talk) 21:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)--il&#39;Dictator Mikal (talk) 21:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Recent changes
Since it appears to bother you oh so much, go to the namespace drop down menu and select the namespace you care about and hit go. TyBother me 17:09, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that
You're reading The Silmarillion. You have my pity. (And, yes, I have actually read it. Juggling granite cinderblocks is less tiring than slogging through that... that thing.)   04:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It wasn't that tedious. TyBother me 04:03, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It goes by a lot faster once you give up trying to keep track of everybody.  04:06, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Considering im a High Fantasy fan, this isnt that bad of a read :P--il&#39;Dictator Mikal (talk) 05:48, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Could be The Eye of Argon, so yes, it isn't bad ;) TyBother me 15:54, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, given I have 5 books (3 from a library) alongside school work to do, im taking my time to read them anyways--il&#39;Dictator Mikal (talk) 16:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It's an experience. TyBother me 16:26, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What?! I love The Eye of Argon! Maybe there will be a sequel, Grignr's revenge! Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 23:15, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I enjoyed it, but then, it's been years and I'm getting senile. SharonW (talk) 03:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Misery
Misery is a damned good book. It and The Shining rank the best I feel. AceModerator 23:08, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Read the shining back at the start of senior year; and im steadily working my through his works on my way to reading The Stand again sometime, given i never finished the damn thing (1100 pages is a lot to read when you are in an english class)--il&#39;Dictator Mikal (talk) 23:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't bother with anything he wrote from about year 2000 onwards - all rubbish. AceModerator 00:36, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I do admit it isn;'t as good as his old stuff. --il&#39;Dictator Mikal (talk) 01:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

User:Elvis is King
Can it be?--Colonel Sanders (talk) 03:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Holy shit. P-Foster Talk " Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing. " 03:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Deleting
Manual. TyAnnoy 14:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC)