Debate talk:2009 Conservapedia day awards/Archive1

Last year's winners (for reference)

 * Arrogance - TerryH (slight win)
 * Bigotry - Ed Poor
 * Delusions of Grandeur - RobS (surprise I was sure Ken would take that one)
 * Heavy-handed - TK
 * Idiocy - Ed Poor
 * Inaesthetic - Conservative (actually Freedom 777 and Jallen got perfect 10 but they only received 1 vote each and Ken deserves recognition.)
 * Liability - Bugler
 * Liar - TerryH
 * Power crazed - Bugler
 * Puerility - Conservative

Nominations - Arrogance
TerryH - "Under the authority of Mr. Schlafly, I am now going to oversee this Project in the name of the administration. My qualifications are these: I can read Greek almost as fast as I can read English, and I've begun a study of Biblical Hebrew. I've also been an administrator for a long time, and I would have the time to devote to this Project that oversight would require." 13:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't forget his constant bragging about his 'lexicons' and 'I translated a whole gospel in a week' Broccoli 13:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The whole taking-over-parts-of-the-CBP bit makes TerryH the man to beat in this category (the CBP itself belongs under Delusions of Grandeur. Andy's recent reluctance to accept any of Roger's criticisms of the B.S. in the Relativity was my runner-up, but I think that deserves it's own category for "Greatest HITS (Head-In-The-Sand) Performance".  --SpinyNorman 15:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Andy - for claiming to be inspired by God and for ignoring criticism in every form. 17:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Arrogance
Whilst I like the dig at Obama the name is way too long, any suggestions? 13:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The 'Under the authority of Mr Schafly...' award? Broccoli 13:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That does presuppose that TerryH wins. 13:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

The Al Gore - Invention of the Internet Award 13:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice, definitely a front runner. May inventor instead. Did he actual say that or was it mined out of all proportions? 13:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

- http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/


 * -- Nx  / talk 15:06, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He claimed to have provided funding for the development of the internet... and it's actually true.
 * From WP: Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that, "as far back as the 1970s, Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises."[48] 157.193.206.103 22:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That just goes to show you how government intervention and assistance programs don't work and are waste of tax-payer money. 23:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * How about the "Andrew Jackson Manifest Destiny" award for arrogance? --SpinyNorman 23:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Bigotry
Everyone - 13:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you want to be more specific or do you really want to nominate everyone? 14:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I do think that this could be shared but awarding it might be a problem. 14:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Roger - mostly for pointing out that the comment about his mommy was "made by a Jew" and is therefore untrusworthy. 14:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC) Jpatt - "he [Obama is] half white half black half muslim half commie"  19:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Ed Poor Last years winner and a complete bigot. 22:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

RationalWiki vandals - for their tireless efforts in mocking and insulting the religious. -- The real MarkGall (18.251.5.130 23:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC))

Award name - Bigotry
Jesse Helm's Memorial award was a great name. Besides what are they going to do, delete their picture of Jesse Helm's? Although Jpatt will probably move it for no reason. 13:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I went ahead a re-jigged last years.

Thoughts? 00:45, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's great. You gonna mock up the rest of them for us to comment on, too?  I'd suggest different colored borders for each one?  Or should they all be a shade of excrement like this one?  02:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is the best I could do that looks like wood, excrement is a good alternative interpretation. Maybe we can change the "plate" colour. 02:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The award for bigotry ought to be in black (black!) and white. Pietrow 09:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - D of G
ASchlafly - The complete jackass-of-all-trades-master-of-none. 12:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Andy for the win - the Conservative Bible Project, with his claims of being guided by the Holy Spirit, paired with the scathing condemnation from right-wingers and the WND, makes him untouchable in this category. --SpinyNorman 15:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * And don't forget bitch slapping his brother at cp:relativity. Andy FTW indeed. 15:55, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * We've also forgotten his grandiose attampts to teach history to the kiddies. He wins for that alone in my book. -- Psygremlin  16:06, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * And his dream to detect liberal style with a formula (MarkGall's idea but Andy was undoubtedly the one having wet dreams about it). 16:43, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Andy - no doubt on this. AceMcWicked 00:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Andrew Schlafly Fedhaji (Talk) 11:21, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Ed Poor - User #188, plus a few more claimed credentials (feel free to add specific examples). 13:31, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

TerryH - see Arrogance above

🇰🇪 -- for believing that the number of page views of his pet articles has anything to do with their merit or acceptance. 19:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

TK But only up until the other month. 22:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Geo.plrd - for the, that were never awarded. 23:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

RationalWiki vandals - for considering themselves a bastion of the atheist movement, despite being nothing more than a bunch of vandal /b/tards. -- The real MarkGall (18.251.5.130 23:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC))

Award name - D of G
The George W. Bush Mission Accomplished Award. 13:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * While delusional, I don't think that was really delusional of grandeur.. --GTac 19:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "Delusions of Grandeur" is a wonderful Ian Dury song. Can we name some of these after the "good guys"?  02:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The Don Quixote Award for Effective Leadership 16:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There's an image for that. 16:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The Kanye West "Yes, I do deserve this award" award NetharianCubicles are prisons! 18:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Kanye "I'm really happy for you and Ima let you finish but King James had the best Bible of all time!! Of all time!!" West Award for Delusions of Grandeur 20:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The Tower of Babel Award for Supreme Hubris - Suggests possibility of divine retribution for sacrilege, and "hubris" perfectly describes Andy on the CBP. Fedhaji (Talk) 11:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC) The 'Let's Rewrite the Bible!' Award for Delusions of Grandeur. - Doesn't that summarise how good they think they are? 12:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC) The Ignatius J. Reilly Award of Grandeur - Honestly, if you read A Confederacy of Dunces, it describes it perfectly. When reading that book I couldn't help but be reminded of those unaware idiots at CP with their misplaced sense of greatness. Hard to imagine that it was written over 40 years ago. --GTac 13:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh Fortuna, you vicious slut.-- 19:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Heavy handedness
DouglasA for his blocks of anyone attempting to improve the CBP. Broccoli 13:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded, especially since he's wielded his banhmmer more, as of late, than TK. 18:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

TK fo his mass-blocking of anyone. Broccoli 13:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. TK's done more to block or drive away editors and IP ranges than anyone else, and Andy seems to enjoy the silence.  --SpinyNorman 15:55, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * His unilateral decision to declare several key editors "retired" before wiping out their user pages and uncomfortable talk-page criticisms is also a standout performance. --SpinyNorman 16:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The award was made for TK. 19:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Should we even have this award? 00:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Tk is too.... easy. Also there's the whole debate about what drives him and his viciousness may well spring from a desire to do harm to CP rather than an innate inner trait. My vote goes to everyone's favourite swabbie, KowardJerk. Bob Soles 00:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well do the bold thing then. I might campaign for him. 00:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Karajou for overcompensating for his inadequacies. Bob Soles 11:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Heavy handedness
'''The TSA 100 ml. Max. Bottle-size Award''' 13:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC) The Dick ("Enhanced interrogation is not torture") Cheney Award --SpinyNorman 15:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded, this one is the funniest, in my opinion. 18:34, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

The "Don't Taze Me, Bro" Award. 22:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This. -- 13:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, Crundy's is the best. 14:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thirded. 17:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The "Deuteronomy 21:18-21" award NetharianCubicles are prisons! 18:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Idiocy
JPatt has amply demonstrated his credentials in this department. 12:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Conservative has earned a spot as a perennial nominee in this category. DickTurpis 13:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Aschlafly He pays for that mess. 14:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm tempted to go with Andy again on this one, on the basis of all the errors in his World History class that he was called out on yet refused to correct. Being an idiot is one thing, but being an idiot paid by others to educate their kids puts you in another category altogether.  --SpinyNorman 16:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

AddisonDM - for calling laughing at a dead spouse "liberal" behaviour. That seriously pissed me off. 19:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

RobS, surely? 22:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Jinx - has to be. AceMcWicked 00:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Collectively, vandals inspired to it by Stephen Colbert. 18:03, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Idiocy
The Ed Poor Memorial Award for Idiocy  13:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He is still alive. Idiot of the year has such a nice ring to it. The real question is designing his life-time achievement plaque. 13:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Ed Poor's Brain Memorial Award? "It's alive" is certainly not an argument there. 157.193.206.103 09:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Inaesthetic
Geo.plrd for his CP medal designs. 12:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This was my favorite, with the "Agriculture" medal being a standout. These were done in December 2008, though, so are we doing this on an anniversary-year or calendar-year basis? --SpinyNorman 16:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * They were after the last CP Day so should be eligible. Although, like the Oscars, it's often the more recent stuff that comes to people's minds. Unlike Ken's random MainPageLeft additions, the CP Medals were "designed" by someone who claims on their WP user page to ... hold certificates in Dreamweaver, Flash, Illustrator, and Photoshop. BTW, Dentistry was my particular favorite. 16:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not surprised to see that JPatt made an abhorrent medal by scabbing mine. Yet Ken gets my vote for total incompetence.  PICTURE!  QUOTE!  PICTURE!  HITWIN!  23:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Conservative Just any time he touches the Main Page. 14:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Also for about every other page he is in control off. And his userpage which always reminds me of those old geocities pages with countless of animated gifs. I think 🇰🇪 would embed midis on pages if he knew how! --GTac 19:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, 🇰🇪's random ejaculation's onto the homepage win it for me. Ole ole ole!! 22:43, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ken for the win. AceMcWicked 00:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh Ken, fo so. 20:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

FOIA - looked at the Alger Hiss article recently? 14:50, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but he did clean up the references a bit. It was worse.   20:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Conservative Bible Project - written like a Unix man page but harder to read and completely devoid of any of the poetry in the KJV. 19:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But which editor of it is the worst? Broccoli 20:31, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say the award should go to everyone with any appreciable number of edits. That thing is like staring a walking inside-out colon in the face: a hideous shit-covered travesty that cannot go unrewarded. 20:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * MarkGail set up the ugly template they used how about him instead. 22:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If you think it's so bad, why didn't you propose an alternative? Do you people have nothing better to do than troll a website you have no interest in contributing to? Leave the serious work for the grownups. MarkGall 19:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

LOL, MarkGall, if that is even your real name, I've reviewed your edits and it seems obvious you are only here to disrupt this valuable entertaining project with your endless talk, talk, talk. Make a substantial contribution, maintain an open mind, and submit a serious suggestion for this award or suffer the consequences not. I guess it is your choice. But did you really start an account here just to defend your template? I know conservatives (other than Jesus) aren't big on funny, but that's funny. Me!Sheesh! Mine! 20:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Ed Poor, for his incessant refusal to learn how to use the software. -- 03:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

RJJensen - his excessive use of political cartoons, which are usually over sized. 05:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Inaesthetic
The Rotten Mold Award for Visual Appeal? 14:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I still like last year, especially give how handsome Dembski is. 14:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The You Can't Paint a Turd Award for Visual Appeal 20:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I like Nutty's idea. Do we have a picture of a turd? 21:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I always knew it as not being able to polish a turd. Eh, either way, I like it.  As for the turd picture, I'm sure we could come up with something.   21:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right - polish a turd. 21:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is better to find a picture on CP first and create the name the other way around. 22:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

 dress sense award? 22:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Michael Moore's Hairdresser's Sense of Style Award? 02:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Debate:2009 Conservapedia day awards/Inaesthetic

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While not as timely as Dembski or Moore, how about going with a conservative, fundamentalist icon of inasthetic: The Tammy Faye Baker Award for Inasthetic. --SpinyNorman 14:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I like! -- Psygremlin  14:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Aaaargh! That will haunt my dreams for weeks. 16:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I prefer the Dembski one, but why is it misspelled? Prometheus 01:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed. 01:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Liability
Joaquin Martinez for his image copyright violations. 12:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded 18:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

TK is such an obvious choice as the project would have far more contributors without him. 13:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Ed Poor Conservapedia would have better articles if he didn't create them. 22:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Why no more nominees for this one? Most of them do more harm than good. 05:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Liability
The Sarah Palin Running Mate Award 13:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there such a thing as too perfect? 14:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could shorten it a bit (maybe take out the words "running mate")? 14:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It really works better in the long form, so I'd leave it as-is. Makes me wonder if we need a "Sarah Palin Going Rogue" or "Maverick" category, with PJR as this year's clear winner.  --SpinyNorman 16:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, that would be designing the category just for one person, which isn't very fair. 16:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I can see this as a running category. Philip is an extreme case because he went off and founded his own wiki, but I'm also thinking of the inner-circle sysops from 2008 who found that a line was crossed on one or more key issues and decided to leave CP after Andy refused to support them, or his highly-regarded female student who objected to Andy's different "boys & girls" standards before re-succumbing to his authority in the end.  --SpinyNorman 16:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Sarah Plain is easy, the first they would never delete. 22:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a better image of Sarah the Running Mate in full-out liability mode. --SpinyNorman 14:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you sure that's actually Palin? 18:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Liar
TK - Maybe a lifetime achievement award and removed from further candidacy. 13:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * TK by a wide margin, but my favorite specific example was his claim that ASK was sharing IP information with CP. --SpinyNorman 16:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Or anything else he's written on CP or RW. TK by a wide margin. 19:55, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, TK for the "A liberal website has started forging screenshots" comment after he got oversight. 22:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thi si the first year for this, right? So TK wins.  Then he gets the lifetime achievement award and is out of the running in future years.
 * Don't forget his "I'm 403 blocked from viewing the vandal site", whilst still reacting to everything we pointed out on TWIGO. TightKnickers for lifetime achievement award. -- Psygremlin  11:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Andy (as we can't have just TK) - "The Holy Spirit guides us!" on the CBP. 19:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, Andy believes it to be true. 18:01, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Jinx - for pretending he didn't want his rights back. 19:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

TerryH - Last year's winner. 03:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Liar
The Joe Wilson Award (maybe expand a little) 14:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd rather use that name for a new category, "Incivility", with the Joe Wilson Award being the prize. Many, many worthy entries to choose from for that category.  --SpinyNorman 16:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

What about the Nick Naylor Award For Blatant Lies (a reference to the film Thank You For Smoking) 14:57, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * A little broader in the reference perhaps. 15:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)


 * My nominations would be the "Fox News We Distort You Decide" award, or the simpler "Mark 'Taking a Hike' Sanford" award. --SpinyNorman 16:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the Fox News one. 16:41, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Fox News Truthiness Award? Corry 17:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

The Fox News Award - Stolen from the people directly above me, but thought it could use some bolding. --GTac 13:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Norman's suggestion was better: The Fox News We Distort You Decide Award. 21:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The Sean Hannity "I'm a great American" award NetharianCubicles are prisons! 18:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Power
TK - For his prodigal son, rags to riches, comeback. still waiting for bureaucrat though 12:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He is never going to get crat, Andy hold on to it too tight. Only him, his pet student and the webmaster are crats. 14:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

JinxMcHue - For his Gollum-like "Sméagol would like his precious back. Pretty please, Master." 12:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Jinx should definitely be on the nomination list though. 12:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

TerryH That mad power grab on the bible project. 12:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * More like arrogance with his pocket reference library. 13:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Assfly I mean come on, rewriting the fucking bible, people!! 22:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thatcher and Heseltine, but with Jesus and Andy. 23:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Power
The Senator Palpatine Award for Most Power-Crazed Corry 17:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fucking Star Wars again, CP won't even have an appropriate picture. 22:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

The Delusions of Competence Award 00:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Alexander "I'm in charge here" Haig. 02:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The Joe Stalin 'I Will Work Harder' Award 12:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't get it. 12:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Stalin went on a massive purging rampage killing almost all the originally communists, and was once quoted as saying "I trust no one, not even myself." As for 'I will work harder' I suppose that's not necessary. 17:51, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh that silly Stalin and his shenanigans! --GTac 13:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The 14 yo Forum Mod/IRC op award - Probably too obscure, but it's the best example of immature power-craze I can think off. --GTac 13:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Puerility
Conservative - Ken is the only real candidate for this with his silly shout-outs and YouTube video links. 12:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If field is poor we could scratch the category. 12:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ken's given plenty of material over the past year to keep this category relevant. This is still a category up for grabs, though, given the sheer number of derogatory anti-Obama posters put up on the Front Page News at CP.  --SpinyNorman 16:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Mostly by Ken if my memory serves me correctly. 17:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Jinx is quite the whiner. DickTurpis 14:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Jinx was the first name that came to my mind when I read "puerile", especially redirecting us to goatse. -- 17:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Andy is a big baby too. DickTurpis 14:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

RobS continually whines about "hate speech against the disabled" and also snipes about our Conservapedia:Fascism article. 17:49, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

RW Vandals - I do not think there is any question that you all are the most deserving of this award. --The real MarkGall (18.251.5.130 22:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC))
 * I have to agree here; the sincere contributors produce more parody than the parodists, who do nothing but ruin the effect. 23:19, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought MG was talking about people who vandalise RW? In which case I have to agree, although this awards page is for recognising Conservapedian idiocy. However Mark, please feel free to hold a RationalWiki award ceremony on CP. 23:21, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about the users from this site who spend their time vandalizing CP. This is the most puerile activity to take place at CP, and thus deserving of this award (and not some other award given by CP itself). --The real MarkGall (18.251.5.130 23:28, 26 October 2009 (UTC))
 * ECx2!!!!) Differ. I honestly don't think that RW supplies many vandals to CP. True there are people who vandalise in a puerile manner & then come here to brag about it, but they don't get much acclaim. Parodists like Bugler are a whole different kettle of a different coloured horse: not puerile at all. 23:30, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we don't really support a lot of wandalism on CP from RW. Like Toast said, people that come back and brag about it are generally seen as losers (the rest of us are WINNERS!) 15:36, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's kinda rich coming from the man who set Andy up so brilliantly with your liberalbot. Best work I've seen since Bugler. Oh, don't let Terry catch you here or he'll show you the door. -- Psygremlin  19:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Karajou - Come on!!! &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 16:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Puerility
The Glenn Beck award (featuring a picture of him crying)? --SpinyNorman 00:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Absolutely perfect, even if we don't have the picture of him crying.-- 00:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. 02:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Here you go. --SpinyNorman 15:00, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops - forgot that it needs to be an image hosted on CP. I still love the image, though.  --SpinyNorman 15:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You people just don't understand, Glenn loves this country so much, and he fears for it! --GTac 14:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

While I think the Glenn Beck version (with image) is much better, if it does indeed die for lack of imagery, I propose The Phase 2 Award. Fedhaji (Talk) 12:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Monomania
I would like to see this added as a category, but it would pretty much be a battle between FOIA and BertSchlossberg. 13:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think FOIA would be the outright winner, as proven by the sheer number of edits he has made to the Alger Hiss article. 15:01, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But Bert's been going longer (I think). 15:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting, according to WP Monomania is a specific form of paranoia. 22:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Monomania
FOIA - Alger Hiss
 * FOIA ran way with the category when he branched out into his "Legacy of Alger Hiss" article. --SpinyNorman 16:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * FOIA owns this category, it should probably be named after him.-- 17:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

BertSchlossberg - KAL 007

Daniel1212 - All things involving man-on-man action
 * Good? 15:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. 15:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that he has branched out from his homosexuality obsession lately because of the CBP. 17:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

RobSmith - His imagined communists everywhere. 15:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Rob qualifies for the "Most Paranoid" award. -- Psygremlin  16:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Second RobSmith nomination (commies everywhere, oh no!) - Refugee talk page 19:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: Conservative commentator and FOX News pundit Charles Krauthammer, who was widely criticized after writing in the National Review, "In today’s America, to be a Communist is a pose, not a conviction. After the Soviet collapse, Marxism is a relic, a pathetic anachronism reduced to its last redoubts: North Korea, Cuba, and the English departments of the more expensive American universities," has now seen the light. Krauthammer now writes, "White House communications director Anita Dunn... [has] been attacked for extolling Mao’s political philosophy in a speech at a high-school graduation.... Mao, the greatest...creator of a slave society of a near-billion worker bees wearing Mao suits and waving the Little Red Book..."   Hmmm, where's Krauthammer getting his talking points from?   RobS 01:37, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fuck you're a paranoid weirdo Rob. AceMcWicked 01:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Rob you are not suppose to actively campaign for yourself. 01:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see why he can't. At least he has the balls to edit here and take his lumps.  02:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, that was funny. :-D RobS, I'm sorry if these comments hurt your feelings, but honestly, you really do seem to be obsessed with communism to the point where it seems a bit overboard. It's a rare gift when you can get honest feedback on yourself from people.. why not listen to these viewpoints and think about your approach, if you really are convinced of this and are looking to convince others, it might be more effective to relate it another way. But then again, what do I know (not much!) lol. Refugee talk page 01:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah, bbbbut...ok thanks. But it's not really monomaniacal, communism is an umbrella issue. Gay rights, environmentalism, abortion, school prayer (or lack there of) are all commie plots.  Don't you see?  RobS 01:58, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, Rob, no, we don't. Hence the reason you deserve some sort of award.  02:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, but I am not a communist monomaniac so I can discern each issue individually. 02:01, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What, Rob? I mean seriously, WHAT?! Bahahahahahahaha! ITS ALL A PLOT!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHA AceMcWicked 02:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, memories. We harken back to the early days of edit warring with the vandal site over cp:NAMBLA and cp:Harry Hay. Harry Hay, the Thomas Jefferson of the Gay Rights movement, was a CPUSA member who circulated the Stockholm Peace petition against the Korean War.  Just what the hell does advocating for gay rights have to do with pushing the Moscow foreign policy line?  And NAMBLA (doesn't need introduction or qualifying) was in the forefront of the anti-Iraq War movement in 2003. So America under Obama and the Democrats has now adopted NAMBLA's agenda.  RobS 02:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "And NAMBLA (doesn't need introduction or qualifying) was in the forefront of the anti-Iraq War movement in 2003." WTF, Rob?  Do you have a chemical imbalance or something?  By 2003, all that was left of NAMBLA was a half-dozen guys writing newsletters in their basements.  What a load of tripe.  More and more evidence that if you're not a parodist you probably should be committed for your own safety. --Kels 02:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "WTF, Rob? Do you have a chemical imbalance or something?" The answer to that, my dear, is ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY. DickTurpis 00:19, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Need link? Go ahead, click on it if you got the cahoonies. Whatsamatter? Afraid of an FBI rectal exam?  No problem.  Eric Holder's in charge of that.  RobS 02:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is not that we don't believe that NAMBLA opposed the Iraq War. It is that they were not a significant force in the anti-war movement and also you are using an association fallacy in linking Obama to to NAMBLA. 02:58, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily; in reviewing this material we see Harry Hay (whose vast archives are carried in extensio on the NAMBLA website) credited with "years of service to the party and work as a teacher at the cp:California Labor School." At the California Labor School what links here we have a link to cp:Frank Marshall Davis, Obama's commie mentor (we can link cp:Harry Bridges to the California Labor School, too). Incidentally, the California Labor School I think was located at the corner of Haight & Ashbury Streets in San Fransisco, ground zero of the 60s counterculture movement -- perhaps another commie plot. RobS 03:20, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. It only took a few minutes to reveal that your entire post was a collection of smears and guilt-by-association, with nary a shred of truth to it.  Were you dropped on your head as a child, Rob?  How many times?  --Kels 03:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Why are we letting him side track the conversation? 03:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He's campaigning for the Monomania, Idiot, Paranoia and Liar awards. --Kels 04:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, look what mainstream conservative America is saying at Townhall.com. Compare the way she organizes her material and use of sources with cp:Obamunism and Barack Hussein Obama articles. P.S. If it's not a COI, I'd like to nominate this photo for the award.   RobS 19:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "Mainstream" and "Conservative" are not words that work well together. Like "RobS" and "making sense". --Kels 22:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Stalin wore pants and slept with women, Rob. You need to become a gay drag queen, OR YOU'LL BE SUPPORTING THINGS STALIN ENJOYED! RobS logic is fun! --Kels 03:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

🇰🇪 - Why has this not been mentioned already?
 * The only monomania Ken has is Google rankings. Although he has a narrow range he divides his editing between Atheism, Homosexuality, Evolution and Obama's economic policies. 18:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

WesleyS (now deceased) for his obsession over categorization. 20:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominating an old sock? Seriously we should restrict this too people we are sure are genuine, so we don't end up like last year where Bugler was first or second for nearly every award. 22:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I never really considered him a "sock" per se. He wasn't inserting liberal biases and whatnot.  Just found it interesting to work for the other side for a few months.   22:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is more the self nomination I object to. 22:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Then I redact my nomination. I can agree to that.  I just thought y'all forgot about him.   22:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

RationalWiki vandals, for their unceasing focus on vandalizing and mocking CP, despite pretensions of being a site to "refut[e] pseudoscience", etc. -- The real MarkGall (18.251.5.130 23:31, 26 October 2009 (UTC))
 * Well, I have to admit, mocking CP is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel... DickTurpis 00:14, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Award - Monomania
'''The Joseph Farah "Where's the Birth Certificate?" Award for Monomania''' 15:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the birther theme a lot but there is one person who is identified with being a birther and absolutely nothing else: The Dr. Orly Taitz Esquire Service Award for Exemplary Monomania 19:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Orly would be great for Delusions of Grandeur. We have a politician in Australia that would be perfect, he is an anti-porn activist that buys the stuff to watch it, complain about it and push for regulations based on what he sees. It turns out he now has the largest private collection of porn in Australia. Pity about the lack of cultural relevance to CP. 23:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's just call it the Kendoll Non-Stop Obsession Award or some such. 02:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The FOIA Fixation On Individual Article award? --SpinyNorman 21:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The DSM-IV 300.3 Award for Exemplary Monomania 21:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced erudition
Rjjenson's apparently a teacher of world history who is surely betraying his learning by editing @ CP. 13:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds a bit rude. 13:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Roger Schlafly for attempting to point out the problems with cp:Relativity? Broccoli 13:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Misplaced erudition
RSchlafly

RJJensen


 * Looks good. 13:50, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He's a wise man in the company of fools. Either way, I don't think he should be given a 'bad' award, but maybe just recognised as 'the best' of a 'bad bunch'? MarcusCicero 14:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, he's as bad as the rest of them. Possibly worse. he copy/pastes his work from CD, he's as happy to block as the rest of them, he backs down when idiots like Rob and Andy trash history - his specialty and he ignores and allows Andy to teach the garbage he calls history to children. Some professor he is. Anyway, "best of a bad bunch" award belongs to darlin' Jess... but I'm biased that way. -- Psygremlin  14:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If I were an American Conservative (Any website owner really) and a group of little internet shites devoted their internet life to attacking my website, I'd be a happy blocker as well. Jensen copies/pastes articles he wrote for CZ. As far as I can tell. Either way you're talking rubbish. MarcusCicero 15:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * And for a minute there I thought you were actually being reasonable. I know you'd be a happy blocker, yo'd fit right in over there. I also know that Jensen's response to being accused of plagiarism was to block the accuser (the accusation was made via mail - not on CP). Now address his ignorance on the history issue and still say I'm talking rubbish and copy/pasting stuff you wrote elsewhere is hardly enlightening, especially when it's been shown he also copies across other people's additions to his work. Hell, MC, just think of this as TV - if you don't like what you read here, change chanels, if you don't want your darlin' prof to get an award, don't vote for him. There's really no need for yet another of your little hissy fits. -- Psygremlin  15:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh... What? What nonsense. Can you proove he is guilty of plagiarism? I don't see it myself. I've actually read one of his books and have nothing but the highest degree of respect for the man - he isn't irrational or guilt by association types like the RW self righteous brigade. Yap all you want, just don't be dishonest. MarcusCicero 17:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ahhh MC, what a miserable prick you are. Warms my heart. AceMcWicked 01:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I will say that the one thing I thought he might be guilty of plagiarism on was wrong, and it actually was his work. Turns out the way Citizendium attributes contributions isn't exactly straightforward and made it look like someone else's work.  So I own up to that, but I dunno if there's something else people are talking about WRT plagiarism. --Kels 01:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There was a bit of a fight about this at cp:Talk:Potato and somewhere else too, a couple months ago... Dr. Jensen copied a bit from CZ, almost entirely written by him but with a couple sentences added by others. Someone pointed it out and it was fixed after some bickering about licensing. --Pyfgcr 01:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

HSMom - Tried to fix the place, but failed. 04:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded...I really miss her and Dinsdale on the main talk page. ~ Kupochama[1][2] 09:51, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * HSMom made me sad, cause while she was an excellent voice of reason, she was too nice to really go against anyone. I remember several times reading something on CP and thinking things like "Damnit HSMom, don't apologize to that jerk! You are only confirming his delusions! You are better than him FFS!" --GTac 15:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * HSMom for me as well, because she chooses her fights well, and her corrections/criticisms have been so airtight that she's avoided the banhammer so far. I wish she'd pipe in more, but I have a feeling the place is just putting her off to much.  --SpinyNorman 02:13, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Misplaced erudition
The Groucho Marx I wouldn't want to join any club that would have me as a member Award 18:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Picture? 22:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that is likely the only usable one there.  01:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Paranoia
Conservative - the gays are coming! The gays are coming! 23:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, there's more to Ken than homophobia. 18:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Rob - no contest! 00:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. If Rob doesn't win, I'll be stunned. 18:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

ASchlafly - If reality doesn't match my delusions, it's because of the atheist / liberal / homosexual / socialist / evolutionist agenda which controls the government / public schools / science sector / media and uses deceit to deny my obvious facts. Or would you deny that abortion causes breast cancer??? --GTac 14:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Paranoia
The McCarthy Reds Under the Bed Award 22:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Paranoia Award
I think an award for paranoia is missing. Andy, RobS, JPatt and several others are often so convinced that all kinds of stuff is happening because of the liberal/communist/atheist/homosexual/whatever agenda, this alone generated a bunch of great WIGOs. What do you think? (PS, sorry for adding another section, completely overlooked the "New Categories" section above) --GTac 19:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is a great idea. Any other takers? 19:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Endorsed fully. -- 21:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed.  21:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sound good. 22:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Richard M. Nixon Enemies List Award for Paranoia? 02:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thumbs up. "The New Frontiersman Award"?
 * Whoever made the above comment is awesome in my book. Even if it's too obscure to use.-- 17:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Twas me.--Thanatos 18:13, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Way too obscure, but awesome nonetheless. Bravo. 21:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * New Frontiersman is great. Rob Smith's journal, October 28, 1985: the city is filled with the sickening smell of leftists and commies, like an abatoir full of retarded children.  22:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "Isn't it time we stopped calling Glenn Beck a terrorist and called him the patriot that he really is?" It would be great to use--Thanatos 00:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Even better. The Walter J. Kovacs Memorial Award for Paranoia--Thanatos 17:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Ramses Award (King of Denial)
Not to live too much in current events, but Andy's response to the WND condemnation of his ConservaBible project inspired this category. --SpinyNorman 16:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice pun. 18:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Denialism is not a bad category name. 22:06, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Denialism
Andy, both for his running denial of how incorrect many of his World History Lecture points were, and his amazing refutation of the Farah criticism over the CBTP. --SpinyNorman 21:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Award Name - Denialism
If the Ramses pun is too annoying, how about the Saint Peter 'Three Times' Award for Denial" --SpinyNorman 21:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've talked to several people who agree with me that the Ramses pun is great. The problem is that Pi is running this show and determined that the threshold for viability for any voting field is 4 candidates, so you're sort of flopping about on this one unless you can come up with some more people engaged in what I would agree is a persistent strategy at CP. Another problem is that the universe of candidates is so small and their deeds so well known that the categories more or less define themselves and this one hasn't yet gelled. Perhaps next year. I think it's great though.  04:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Misogyny
Nomination: Ed Poor. Refugee talk page 20:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Susan B. Anthony Buck Stops Here Award? 21:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Bigotry already covers this. 22:06, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Repectfully disagree - I think misogyny should be an award unto itself. How can we not recognize huge numbers of Ed Poorisms such as:http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Women_wearing_pants - quote: "Women wearing pants is cross-dressing. It should be looked down on as much as men wearing dresses." and: http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Debate%3AWomen_in_the_Military%3F&diff=56181&oldid=53199 quote: "goes against God-given nature" - Women should not be in combat or combat support, where there at risk of being captured or killed by the enemy. Male soldiers will, by nature, want to rescue them from danger, even at the cost of neglected strategically more important missions." and his many additions to: http://conservapedia.com/Feminism - quote: "Specifically, a modern feminist tends to:... detest women who are happy in traditional roles, such as housewives,and especially dislike those who defend such roles...

I am also nominating ASchlafly for the "test questions should be different for girls than boys" debacle. Refugee talk page 23:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (How about Phyllis on a visiting professorship?) Just thinking about it, every woman who's made any meaningful contribution has left or been driven out so the whole site could be described as misogynistic; but Andy for his "rules of chivalry" & exam questions. Ed's just a dirty old man. 00:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * EC) Further: It might just be that females have too much sense than to maintain any involvement with such a whacko site (- or aSK come to think of it) 00:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If we had misogyny we should drop one or two other. We have 13 now and remember there really is only about 25 people that could be nominated for all these awards. 00:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think the number of awards matters, what matters is the fun in awarding them and the fun in making the plaques and posting them on CP using their images. Just MHO, of course.  01:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * And reposting them over and over again. 02:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Besides a misogyny award should be named after Mummy Schlafly. 00:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What he said! 01:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Phyllis Schlafly Rape Your Wife Award? 02:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if you think there are too many categories and it doesn't warrant it's own award, no problem, include it in Bigotry. I don't think we need to keep it if it means getting rid of another category. I guess it's more of a pet peeve of mine anyway - I stay pissed off daily at the endless entries derogatory to women at CP. lol. Refugee talk page 01:00, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Might as well have it. I actual enjoy making the plaques. Although if we cut one it should be heavy-handedness. Last year TK won it after he had been absent for the year. 01:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a feeling TK could win that award if he'd been absent for a decade. lol. Maybe we can combine a few to make less categories? (such as misogyny included under Bigotry) So far all the suggestions look pretty good. Refugee talk page 01:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations - Misogyny
Ed Poor - Just a disgusting weird woman hating pervert. 01:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree: Ed's a dirty old pervert who'd like to get his paws on any female: the younger the better IMHO. Andy's much more organised as a misogynist. 01:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a certain misogyny in the that. Younger women = less assertive = greater control. 02:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Toast - Ed's just a dirty old man, like me, except he make the mistake of expressing it on the internet (by the way, I also love women my own age and older). Andy is truly at least a sexist, a chauvinist pig.  02:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Aschlafly - Seeing as he get nominations. 02:08, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Jpatt - Mostly for his anti-choice twittering. 02:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Award name - Misogyny
Debate:2009 Conservapedia day awards/Misogyny‎

The name might need work, but I like the feminine pick colour. 02:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Use "Rape Your Wife". And yes, the pink background is nice. 02:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * How is "marital rape"? 02:52, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not bad. But I came up by accident with a better name: Ted Kennedy Memorial Breaststroke Award, hell, if we do things like that, they might actually keep the awards instead of deleting them!  03:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * How about the "Phyllis Schlafly Marital Rape Submission Award"? --15:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

New Categories
Monomania? 12:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * How about some nice awards? Broccoli 13:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fuck that. 13:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "The Bugler Memorial Award for Almost Certainly Being a Parodist". 13:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Publius already has the "Parodist's Parodist" Excellence in Parody Prize. 13:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But isn't that a RationalWiki prize? I still think maybe Roger deserves a chance at an award for attempting to argue with Andy. Broccoli 13:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominate him on the talk page. 13:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I second Broccolli's suggestion above, how about a "well-intentioned but misinformed" award? nominations could be HSMom, PJR and possibly Joaquin Martinez. or would PJR still qualify as an ex-CPer? <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 20:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * also add Iduan. <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 20:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

(undent)

How about a "Best Rebuke" award, for the best for pwnership of Andy where the critic got away with it. --SpinyNorman 16:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say Roger's reply on the Relativity talk page where he called Andy's source "a kook," except that poor Roger didn't get away with it. 16:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

What about creepiest? Contenders would be Ed "Send me your e-mail, phone number and bra size" Poor and JPratt for quoting Bible verses as he blocks people. -- Psygremlin  11:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to see "False Dichotomy", which of course would go to Andy. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 16:11, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

How many?
Last year we had ten awards and I can tell you that was a lot of work. With the multipoll feature voting will be easier, however awards still need to be made, pictures found ect. How many should we go with this year? Please keep in mind that we are nominating from a pool of only about 25 people. 23:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

We currently have With Suggestions of:
 * Arrogance
 * Bigotry
 * Delusions of Grandeur
 * Heavy-handed
 * Idiocy
 * Inaesthetic
 * Liability
 * Liar
 * Misplaced erudition
 * Monomania
 * Paranoia
 * Power crazed
 * Puerility
 * Denalism
 * Misogyny
 * Unbalanced

Should we cull a few? 00:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, let's make sure all the "regulars" get at least one. They're free, right?  03:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What kind of namby pamby political correctness is that, they only get an award in they earn it. Competition brings out the best in people. 03:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I say, to everyone an award according to their ability, and to everyone their due, according to their award. (I know that's not really "English"). 04:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Π. I'd like to see fewer awards which endows them with greater meaning, otherwise it's like a teacher giving all of her pupils gold stars. Much better to have six or so "punchy" awards than some long-winded list designed to ensure everyone gets one. We've already got overlap between things like "Arrogance" and "Delusions of Grandeur" as well as some others that I can't be bothered to mention. Let's cut it down and have some proper standards for goat's sake. 18:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like more than 2 nominations per category, which is the problem with people constantly inventing new awards is they usually only apply to two people. 02:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude, you're in charge. When it comes to setting up votes on the project/debate page, it's up to you.  You have our opinions, but you are doing all the work.  It's your show, please run it how you want.  You're making a lot of fun for all of us, I'm sure no one minds if you manage it as you see fit.  03:15, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would rather not be "in charge", thanks. I just wish getting a consensus wasn't like extracting teeth. It's not that people aren't interested, it is just hard to sustain that interest for any period of time. We have the only wiki thats entire membership has the online equivalent of ADD. Works in its own strange way. 03:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, you are running this, really.  "Consensus" is what you decide it is, when you decide it is (what awards, who is nominated), since I expect you will be stuck with setting up and announcing the voting in a week or two.  And, yes, the wiki operates like a salamander on crack.  Just stay on top of things, and do the best you can.  If you want help, just ask, but it will only be "help", not management.  You be the manager ;)  03:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Parthian shot
I would like to see a new category for best Parthian shot. I guess that Philip would be a shoe in for this year though.--BobNot Jim 13:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Shoe in? Is that on Teflpedia? Snark aside, Parthian Shot writers have their talk pages burned and possibly locked. So we could only award them from here. 13:50, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh noes. My embarrassment know no bounds. But even if it's only an award here I think it might be a good idea.--BobNot Jim 17:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There were some great parting shots - PJR of course, Jazzman, TimS, Fox, Hojimachong, and what was that guys name that started with an "A" - Azi-xxx?, he used to post here too, and DanH if I recall correctly, Kotomi on Ask a bunch of others now long deleted and memory-burned, and even TK's own last shot upon being desysop'd way back when. <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 20:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * and SpineyNorman too. <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 20:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Aziraphale? I never saw him leave, but I liked following his comments when I first found CP. Seemed like he'd have been banned eventually. (Yet now that I check, all his subpages were overlooked.) ~ Kupochama[1][2] 03:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't really like Parthian shot as 80%+ of the time it is one of us trying to make a point. I sort of seems hollow rewarding ourselves for saying a few clever words to Andy and running away. 03:58, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really, in the sense that a "good" PS is left by an editor who has gained trust - and might not be one of us, anyway - see PJR, nomination. 04:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't forget JY23. Not terribly over-the-top but definitely "Parthian", and completely unexpected.   14:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The So long and thanks for all the fish Award 18:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Nominations
How does the rule that if someone nominates them they are in sound? 13:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * As it goes to a vote then it doesn't matter if there are non-starters in the line up. The nominations above give the chance to explain why the candidates are worthy of the awards. 13:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems fair enough. 13:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Anakin Skywalker Award
I just had an idea for an award for the editor who contains a faint glint of hope buried deep within their fundie interior. Addison comes to mind for this. He has at times displayed something approaching rational thought, and is young enough that there is still hope he may turn into a functioning human being once he is away from the clutches of Andy. Then again I'm sort of against the idea of making awards geared towards specific people. DickTurpis 14:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be an interesting category, but there isn't too large of a field. The only people I can think of are Addison and perhaps PJR. 15:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, purely on the grounds it mentions Star Wars. 15:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fuck you Pi. I want there to be a Theemperor Award.  Oh, and stylistically, it should be called the Darth Vader award, as an Anakin Skywalker award would be given to a user here who has a tiny bit of religious fundamentalism buried deep within their black hole of a soul.
 * I say rename it to the PJR Glimmer of Hope Award, for showing that despite all the loonies, there's one there that still shows some sort of sanity. <font face="comic sans ms"> Kwsn  (Ni!)  18:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if we don't make this a category, it would be interesting to debate whether PJR has a glimmer of hope or not. He did see through Andy's bullshit and TK's power games, but the ASK WIGOs prove that he still is a pretty messed up dude. 18:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominations: Philip J Rayment, AddisonDM, Bethany (altho haven't seen her in awhile).<font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 20:06, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I vote no fucking lame Star Wars awards, and Marcus Cicero agree with me in p-mail. 02:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * More important than the name of the award is whether we should have one for this category at all. I wouldn't think PJR would be a candidate, as he's quit CP, and it's far too late for him anyway (he is not about to change), whereas Addison or Bethany at least have the potential to be normal right-leaning people, rather than forever minions of Andy. That would seem to make it a 2 way race, but that seems pretty typical here. DickTurpis 14:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Being possessed of a perfectly reasonable name and making it anathema.
TerryH & T(Terry)K for bringing opprobrium on the name "Terry". 15:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Couldn't they all be accused of that? What's the frequency, Ken?  02:45, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

For being a parodist
How do we not have this as an award?? There have been plenty of parodists this past year. 15:10, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Because we are judging people based on their "qualities". Read last years debate for the reasons we avoided it. 15:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. 15:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Most Unbalanced
I feel like we need an award to recognize true batshit insanity, and Jpatt comes to mind for me.-- 17:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with the category, but I nominate Andy himself. 17:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I beg to differ, 🇰🇪 is quite obviously the very embodiment of this award. --GTac 19:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree GTac. Ken is obviously mentally ill, but I have to say I find it disgusting to poke fun at it by giving him a flip award for "Most Imbalanced" when what he needs is competent medical attention. 20:01, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Nutty on this, awarding 🇰🇪 an "unbalanced award" is just sort of rude, like making fun of autistic kids. Yeah, he's ill, but that's not why we argue with him. 02:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Technical issue
All those identical headers above should be altered to make them unique, otherwise linking to them fails, as does the "return after editing". 19:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, you can't tell where people are editing in the RC blurb... 21:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Mea culpa. My bad for which I humbly beg forgiveness. 18:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * My writing assignment is complete, Ed! :) 21:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks!!! I have other stuff I'm working on (drudgery - moving web site to new host, have to change a few thousand links...) or I'd have done it.  22:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Bah, "drudgery" is what I do for a living (see or User:OCDBot).   22:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Here's a thought...
Why dont we do some RW awards. Pat ourselves on the back. AceMcWicked 00:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * A little wankey, although if RationalWikiWiki wants to do some. If they do I'll have to start the RationalWikiWikiWiki awards for RationalWikiWiki. 00:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * EC) And a nice impartial judge would be? Oh of course: Marcus Cicero. 00:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Theemperor and you would sweep the pool. 00:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * When I read it, I thought that was a fake name trick. Shit.  -- 03:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Just musing. AceMcWicked 00:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Omg, I was just going to post this idea myself! You beat me to it Ace! lol. I volunteer to judge. I think I'm pretty impartial (although I do have a slight bias towards one or two people here). :-D <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 01:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, wait - why not have a vote? <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 01:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * >A little wankey --GTac 01:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I guess you are right... if it was by vote, I might nominate myself, and then vote myself up to one hundredand eleventy-someodd so I would win, then soon after that would start to feel ashamed of my enormous ego and huge need to win made me do such a thing and hurredly vote myself back down to negative 1000111eleventy and then end up just feeling stupid over then whole thing.. better to just nominate people and have Tmt decide or just have Pi make some more cool plaques and awards and we can stick them all over people's pages that we see doing stuff to say thanks and you've been recognized for your work.. or something. <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 01:22, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I made Trent a really nice barnstar for relocating the site way back when, and used the underlying layered images to make Bob M one for letting us crash teflonwiki when RW was borked. If anyone wants the raw image tools they're welcome, but I don't think we really need to run around licking each others' genitalia more than we already do...  02:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Award images
It is going to be supremely difficult to find the pictures we'd like to use for the awards on CP, what with the limited number of people who can upload said images. It has worked in years past, I suppose, but in regards to the suggestions above, we may have issues. I'll mull through their picture albums and find what I can. 01:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't be that hard, the trick is not to think "image of steaming turd" but to think of "insane public figure". They'll have those images.  Also I think we should mock "some of our own" (like Michael Moore) is at least half of these.  Like the "Ted Kennedy Memorial Breaststroke Award" for misogyny?  03:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Lifetime achievement awards
This needs to be discussed more in depth than a passing comment under some of the other awards. This is a really good idea, so we won't just award the same people the same award over and over again each year. Here are some ideas

Delusions of Grandeur: Andy

Liar: TK

Idiot: Ed Poor

Paranoia: RobS

Power-crazed: TK

Any others I'm forgetting? -- 03:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ed has won biggest idiot twice already. I don't think we need to pension everyone off yet. 03:22, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also paranoia is a new award, liar was won last year by TerryH and Power-crazed was won Bugler - so those aren't the constant winners. 03:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's more like "retiring an athlete's number" - when someone so pwns an award one year - or more - the award gets named after them, and they get the lifetime award. Ed and Idiot is foregone.  So, hence, the "Ed Poor Biggest Idiot on Conservapedia Award".   04:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Richard Lenski Prize for Pwning Andy
RW's Nobel, if you will. I nominate Fretfulporpentine for Bugler (outed Jan. 09) and Roger for his recent relativity-related sibling bitch-slappery. --Robledo 15:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Could we make it just pwning in general (not necessarily Andy)? 15:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Deployment
Who's sock will we use to post the awards? 15:08, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have one I can burn. RaoulDuke 15:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * As do I. 15:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ditto. -- Psygremlin  15:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * We could always divide the awards between us so that one rangeblock doesn't wipe us out. 16:01, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've a sock I can offer up. EddyP 16:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, let's start claiming awards. 16:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Where are you going to post the awards? The "winners" will probably protect their talk pages and user pages. And the images you're going to use as well. --Harold 16:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a shame they're not so boring and would just let us make fun of them. They could do awards of us: I'd welcome it. 18:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The best use of multiple socks is to keep reposting the awards. Last year I put them on the main page talk, the Conservapedia day page and on each users talk page before guard dog caught me. With guard dog down it should be easier. However lets not get a head of ourselves, it is still a month away. 22:37, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe RobS would do it for us? 22:52, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I asked him. Other than that, just let Pi run it via pmail?  03:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I knocked together a script that automatically uploads awards to their respective talkpages; if anyone's interested, I'll post the source here. 18:49, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

The Tower of Babel Special Award for Supreme Hubris
Shamelessly expanding on my "Delusions of Grandeur" name suggestion and taking into account the discussion above about fewer awards, I propose combining Arrogance and Delusions of Grandeur into a single award this year. The obvious recipient is Andrew Schlafly. As noted above, the name suggests possibility of divine retribution for sacrilege, and "hubris" is a perfect description of Andy in creating the Conservative Bible Project (and Andy in general). Fedhaji (Talk) 12:03, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I like this one. It should be a special award Andy gets for the bible project. Prometheus 01:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Second it--Thanatos 01:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Is that picture available on CP? 02:00, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is: http://conservapedia.com/Tower_of_Babel Prometheus 02:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * So I'm guessing this won't be used? Shame. Prometheus 00:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Three days to go
With only three days until voting is suppose to start I have created polls for the categories that had 4 or more nominees, as I took that to mean that people had an interest in voting for those categories. Please keep nominating the more polls and people the more fun we can have. Please don't open the polls. We can reorder them until they open after that we stuff up the poll if we reorder or remove nominees. 22:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Are we limited to one vote per cat or more? 12:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The mulitipoll extension logs your IP, so if you have more than one you can vote more than once, but otherwise it is one vote per cat. 22:04, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Paranoia, inaesthetic and misplace erudition all have three nominations all have three nominees, anyone got a fourth? 04:59, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Wildcard award
''Note:On Conservapedia this image is a picture of Obama looking smug in front of an American flag.

A freebie award for anything Andy wins we can't think of a name for. 10:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)