Talk:Spider-Man fallacy

Huh?
Spider-Man isn't real???!! - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 02:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * With great characterisation comes great income - David Gerard (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

This isn't a fallacy!
True, Spiderman isn't real just because the setting is real, but no one is CLAIMING spider-man is an accurate depicion of events! The Bible is being asserted as a historical document, and portrays itself as one as a secondary goal (The first, as the word of God!)! With that, it fulfills its duty, and as such, comparison to modern fictional works never TOUTED as accurate history/events is a False analogy!--71.222.39.67 (talk) 04:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * If people did, then according to your logic it would be just as valid as the Bible. Consider how silly that is. 14:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * People do claim the Bible is a completely accurate, infallible, word of God accurate in all respects (including history). Like Bryan Fischer.  -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * People do claim the Bible is a completely accurate, infallible, word of God accurate in all respects (including history). Like Bryan Fischer.  -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

The obvious fallacy
While S & G may well have existed - but 'the locals' probably did not call them by those names (Suomi, Deutschland, Misr, Bhārat Gaṇarājya) - so 'the archaeologists' will never find 'Welcome to Sodom (turn right at next junction for Gomorrah)' signs, or 'This foundation stone laid by the Mayor of Gomorrah'/'Sodom late night laundry' shop fascia to prove the statement. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 15:54, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be more effective to use The Odyssey?
While the Christians' original argument ("Sodom existed, therefore the Bible is true") is fallacious, I think they are right to point out that the comparison with Spider-Man is apples and oranges because Spider-Man was intended as fiction from the outset, whereas the Bible was not.

I realize using Spider-Man is funnier, but it's practically inviting the "two different genres" argument. The Odyssey, meanwhile, was once in the same genre as the Bible in the sense that it was a historical and religious work, albeit one that almost nobody believes anymore. And the ruins of Troy have been discovered, which draws a very neat comparison with the alleged discovery of Sodom. - Furrykef (talk) 02:28, 20 October 2017 (UTC)