User talk:Nutty Roux/Archive6

Doppelganger
I was just staggering around the local market (staggering because I couldn't go three feet without being offered wine tasting and had several shots of tequila at a bar on the way) and I saw this guy I recognized. About 6 feet tall, bespectacled, ruffled hair and wearing a nice suit albeit slightly disheveled. He was looking around furtively with a slight paranoia in his reddened eyes - looking half cut. It took me moment but I suddenly thought, "Fuck me, that's Nutty Roux." Even though I have only seen your face and knob, this guy was your fucking double. Aceace 05:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Awwww, how nice. What did his knob look like? 14:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Huge, obviously. Crundy Talk nerdy to me  21:32, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Spherification
D'y'know, I've just thought of another thing I can send you in your next care package :) Crundy Talk nerdy to me  21:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

your definition of trolling
Is quite odd. I can't comment on football on Ace's talk page? Sure, I absentmindedly said soccer, but I don't think that would have upset him too much. Well, I imagine that stick up your ass has been there so long it's moved so far up your gastrointestinal tract it's affecting your cognitive functions.

-- 06:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I never said it was trolling. I used the collapse template specifically because that makes no incendiary judgment about the nature of someone's edit. There are lots of reasons one might consider collapsing a statement. Hey, let me ask you a question since you want to tell me about my cognitive function: do you think it would make me a more effective and better earning professional If I started asking an unemployed and socially inept dropout for advice? 15:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably not, but then again, I clearly labeled that as trolling, as did you with my soccer comment to Ace. You certainly said it was trolling.--  15:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh you're right. I called it boring trolling from a boring child. 16:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * And I disagreed as to your interpretation of trolling. Glad to see we're finally having some dialogue --  16:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You're basically the only troll RW has left. Get fucked. 16:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, the way you screwed up the collapse template made me think you directed that comment at me when I looked at the page. 16:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Jesus no. You're alright in my book. 17:00, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Email
The one with your real name/company. B♭maj7 (talk) Anachronistically anachronistic 22:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's be in touch. 23:00, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

.
Aceace 08:15, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

When I lie awake at night, thinking of you putting your arms around me, this goes through my head
-- PsyGremlin  16:44, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * So in other words you assault and batter me. I'm not into BDSM. 17:11, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * S&M = slaan & moer. Which isn't nearly as funny if you don't speak Afrikaans. -- PsyGremlin  14:40, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Techno? Fucking techno??!!
-- PsyGremlin  14:40, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Mod business
RationalWiki:All things in moderation -- Nx  / talk 05:37, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

the least of my problems
After a......"issue" in the weekend I am abstaining from alcohol for the time being. Dude, I am getting some terrible nightmares though. Aceace 23:00, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ace was not into serious street-fighting, but he was hell on wheels in a bar brawl. Any combination of a 250 lb Mexican and LSD-25 is a potentially terminal menace for anything it can reach - but when the alleged Mexican is in fact a profoundly angry Chicano lawyer with no fear at all of anything that walks on less than three legs and a de facto suicidal conviction that he will die at the age of 33 - just like Jesus Christ - you have a serious piece of work on your hands. -Hunter S. Thompson 13:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Eira
She blocked herself for 3 months. -- Nx  / talk 07:34, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thanks. You're the best. 14:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course I am. -- Nx  / talk 15:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You're also my favorite user. 19:27, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course I am. -- Nx  / talk 19:53, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I wish you weren't such an awful cunt so we could get along better. I could use a vicious fucker like you as an ally. 23:19, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cue Green Day. steriletalk 05:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You too Sterile. Especially you. 05:46, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have it on good authority that Nx likes the smell of smegma. Aceace 05:55, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I once asked him a technical question by email. He would not stop emailing me asking for toenail clippings and pictures of my feet for months. I had to put a stop to things when he started demanding dirty socks as well. 12:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Déjà vu all over again
This just never goes away. 11:27, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My god someone laying it out like that left me a bit deflated. Thanks for the link. Turns out there's academic work being done on Internet group dynamics and social health that may be relevant to te pickle we're in. I'm getting interested in this problem again instead of just cringing when I see certain people replay the same patterns over and over. Cheers. 13:32, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

People you know
here. Gawd, I love being cryptic. -- PsyGremlin  15:15, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Gawd a mutual friend who's also interested in such things for similar reasons showed me that. It's a thing of beauty. Also, that guy's the worst tshirt model or posterboy for a "grassroots" movement I've ever seen, whichever he is. 16:15, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Nomination
I nominate Nutty Roux for mod. AceVote Ace for Mod! 20:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Fuck you...
...my sweet. AceAce For Mod! 22:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahhh thanks. Getting ready to wrap up a weird day at work and go have some drinks with friends. Answer your email. 22:21, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's Saturday asshole. Email my home, not work. Asshole. AceAce For Mod! 22:38, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * FFS how am I supposed to know what day it is over there or what email address I was responding to. Asshole. 00:15, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Fuck you, fucking fucker face. AceAce For Mod! 00:22, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Hiding usernames
Since when did we decide to hide offensive usernames anyway? We used to rename them into something more witty back when this website was fun, but now you n00bs are turning it into a wikipedia clone with all your srs bsns and rules and stuff. You've ruined all the fun. -- Nx  / talk 22:31, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I know you're sort of trying to be funny and sort of trying to make a point I don't understand. I can't tell if you're sort of trying to help. I'd like to hear if you really have a criticism of me hiding a username making light of Christopher Hitchens' recent death. 23:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * So what if they're making fun of Hitchens' death? Is it really necessary to hide it? -- Nx  / talk 23:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No. It's not necessary. It's appropriate. There's your so what. 23:51, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and if I had done it you'd be the first one to accuse me of abusing my rights. -- Nx  / talk 00:00, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And if Human had done it Nx, what then? AceAce For Mod! 00:07, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Who cares Ace. Nx, that's not fair. It's also a little paranoid. I've only talked about you of abusing your rights when it was pretty darn clear you did.  00:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Revdelete is supposed to be used only to hide personal information. -- Nx  / talk 00:33, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll do it again. 00:51, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Brxbrx's talk page
Please do not censor my comments on other people's talk pages. Alternatively, if you do choose to censor my comments when you disagree with them, I won't stop you - but you'll have to quit your moral high horse when we discuss site policy. 05:27, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There's no need to get personal, dear girl. I wasn't censoring you, to the extent slapping up the dfft template under the wrong circumstances is anything less than what you're accusing ... someone ... of. I was trying to save you the trouble of explaining yourself. When you slap up a dfft template undented at the end of a section in which Human is expressing what I view as righteous indignation, you leave the reader wondering who exactly you're calling a troll. Care to comment? 05:34, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Righteous indignation... LOL. -- Nx  / talk 05:41, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey buddy. 05:43, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No, not really, but I will anyway. If Huw isn't trolling, and he really, truly feels those emotions toward someone on the internet, I feel nothing but pity for him. Or, more likely, he's editing drunk again. 05:49, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You should pity Nx more. AceAce For Mod! 05:52, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool, Blue. Thanks for sharing your opinion that you feel pity for a man being pissed about getting the death of his friend shoved in his face. And that you think he's a troll for expressing it. Or that I guess the more charitable explanation is he was editing drunk? It's nice to know you're not above putting your personal hatred for a person above your own good judgment. You're a standup gal. This site's in great hands with you aspiring to the leadership role you wish to hold. 05:55, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Read my comment, please. I said if he's being honest then he isn't trolling. And since when is it wrong to feel sorry for someone who is "getting the death of his friend shoved in his face?" I am truly sorry that discussion about McWiki happened. I do feel sorry for Human. I don't hate him. 06:23, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow. Dissembling is rarely presented this openly. Thanks Blue. 01:55, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have anything useful to say? Because this is a common pattern in our interactions: we argue, and you openly question my motives, though I've done nothing of the sort to you. It's possible I've equivocated a couple times, but the better move might have been to call me out on my fallacies, rather than escalate an emotionally charged situation.
 * It's also true that I have questioned Human's motives, both here and in the past. That is a separate issue, and I have treated it as such: I have recused myself from any moderator action involving him. It doesn't help that he has openly admitted to trolling RationalWiki before - but again, that is a separate matter.
 * I have always thought that you have something worthwhile to listen to. You won't believe this, but I voted for you in the first mod election, even though I knew your preferences to be very different from my own. I will continue to listen if and only if you stop questioning my motives as an argumentative strategy. I will try to be more civil to you and sensitive to the fact that we have vastly different views on certain individuals. 04:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You have crummy judgment for trying to make this about me after acting like such an asshole. I'll respond by email. There's no prudent way to address this sanctimonious horseshit in public. 05:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey there old sport, please don't waste your valuable time composing what I'm sure would be a great lecture. If you must, do it in public. 15:31, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey there squirt. Call it a lecture if you want; I could take the same shot at you about needing it after either learning nothing in this discussion or being resistant to admitting it. The short version is you questioning Huw's motives is why you're here; it's not a separate issue. If you don't understand why I see red after you come over here to immediately get personal with me and call Huw a liar or a drunk when I did nothing more than remove your obnoxiously placed template, I'll be a little irritated at you wasting more of my time explaining it. If, under the circumstances, you feel comfortable stepping outside the realm of wiki-politics and questioning Huw's personal motives after he openly stated he's mourning Susan's death, you ought to be open to having your own questioned. It's not an "argumentative strategy." It's what people legitimately do when you act like your parents somehow neglected to teach you about treating a person with kid gloves on the subject of the death of someone he admired. 17:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This discussion has run its course. Color me Nx'ed. 18:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever being "Nx'd" means, you guys have something in common: you both change the subject to focus on the discussant instead of the merits. Enjoy yourself. And LOL in your edit comment? You're about as good at this as Brxbrx. 18:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's get this straight. I posted a comment, consisting of a template, and signed it. You perceived it to be "obnoxious" and thought it could hurt Human's feelings, so you deleted it. Then, yesterday, you blocked me for three months for another comment I made that you found somehow offensive. Who's the authoritarian cunt here again? 20:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If no one else will nitpick with the rules, you just have to do it yourself. To wit: Users are not to remove posts from other people's talk-pages unless they are (1) "obviously vile," and (2) made for the purposes of trolling. Any questions about trolling aside, it would be very amusing to see an attempt at arguing that the DFTT template is vile at all, let alone "obviously" so; for giggle-value it would be right up there with Clinton's quibbling over the meaning of the word "is." 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

So, to update the list of people with questionable motives: Did I miss somebody? -- 18:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nx (authoritarian cunt?)
 * Maratrean (trolling)
 * Brxbrx (personal vendetta against Nutty/trolling via existence)
 * UHM (personal vendetta against Nutty)
 * Blue (dislike of Human)
 * Blue, I love love love that you just called me an authoritarian cunt for blocking you once and removing a template. This conversation keeps getting better! I should have penned you a lecture instead. I'm sorry.
 * UHM, you popping by like this to express your contempt for me and others isn't the same as vendetta unless there's something I don't know; it just shows you've got an extravagant view of yourself and are constitutionally incapable of resisting the urge to pile onto conflict. But nice try with the framing, especially with sticking yourself in there. Brxbrx is the only one with truly awful motives and I don't need to lift a finger to make a record of that. Blue made a mistake that she refuses to admit by carrying on like this, but all of us do. I made a mistake swearing at Maratrean whenever that was this summer. You made a mistake finding yourself here adding nothing and wasting both of our time with your antagonistic list, but thanks for stopping by I guess. *shrug* Everyone else meh. Maratrean and Nx have nothing to do with me. Again, nice try. 21:11, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's funny. Nothing in that post was in any way judging or expressing contempt for you. It's purely a list of what I see you throwing in other peoples faces. As you seem to question why, I put myself on there, here comes the explanation: Do you remember those Awards on a website known as Rationalwikiwiki, you accused me there off putting you on a list just because I wouldn't like you. And actually you just did it again: "you popping by like this to express your contempt for me" — again, no contempt expressed. Only a list to make fun of what you are doing.
 * Now, I'm sure you will be questioning the honesty/ of this, but I do hold a very low view of myself and I do keep a lot of what I would like to say in — often because I think if would want to induce pain on myself it would be much easier for me to start cutting myself rather than posting. -- 22:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have it on good word that AD is a monster unlike anything you have ever witnessed :-)  I am also the harbinger of authoritarianism, apparently.  Oh, and P-Foster is Dracula.   19:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This whole section is garbage. AceAce For Mod! 20:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 20:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what a friend of Dracula would say.  20:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Dare to believe
A new dawn, y'all. This wiki Moses on wheels would also quite like his campaign poster undeleted. Cheers. --Le législateur (talk) 21:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

email
MC's threatening to release every email he possesses sent to him by RWians. Leaving aside the fact that this is about as likely as blocks of gold raining from the sky, isn't that kind of uh, illegal? 01:12, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * never mind the legality. It is such a dumb idea anyway. AceAce For Mod! 01:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * MC and dumb ideas have always been close friends.  01:21, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no idea whether it's illegal or not but what do you think you're going to do about it anyway? Sue a phantasm for an injunction? Where? None of us even knows who MC is. We should all just hope he doesn't have anything incriminating against us and sit back and enjoy the ride. 01:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "None of us even knows who MC is". I know and MC knows I know. Steven Kavanagh (talk) 10:24, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Illegal or not, it would be hypocritical of us to try to stop it, given some of our editors' involvement with the Conservapedia e-mail leaks. 17:09, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know who this "us" is. It's not me. Is it you? You're forgetting that the vast majority of people here never expressed an opinion on the propriety of the CP leaks one way or another. A few users, or even RW itself (it wasn't officially involved in this in any manner), publishing those emails doesn't speak to whether parties who were not involved can or ought to object to their own emails with MC being disseminated without being hypocrites. On the other hand, perhaps they didn't object vehemently enough or publicly state their intention not to read the emails? That's a difficult position to evaluate. Anyhow, none of us has enough pull with MC to stop him from doing anything he wishes to do. 18:19, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "Us" meaning the Wiki collectively. 18:35, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I am waiting in earnest for MC's email drop. AceAce For Mod! 01:44, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm well aware there's nothing I could do to stop him. (Assuming I was interested in doing so.  I've never actually contacted MC offline, so there's zero chance of his phantom email bomb having anything from me.)  I just thought it'd be ironic if he broke the law during all of his posturing and flailing about who's more righteous on the wiki.   03:21, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm under the impression that correspondence typically belongs to the person you send it to, because you gave it to them. It's theirs to do with as they please. PintOfStout Talk Good people drink good beer. 06:12, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not even an academic question. MC's a fiction who gets deeply under sooo many people's skins he'll never stop winding you clowns up. 06:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm somewhat concerned by the potential leak. Marcus and I have had many conversations in which I reveal personal details about myself and other Rational Wiki editors (specifically, the locations and routines of one P-Foster, Nutty's various indiscretions, some stuff I was able to find out about ListenerX, etc). Occasionaluse (talk) 18:31, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's as maybe but there's fuck all we can do about it except what we ought to do which is ignore the little tit. Bad Faith (talk) 18:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I am sure you have nothing to worry about. MC is a zero, a nobody. About as concerning as a cloudy day. AceAce For Mod! 18:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If this does happen, it just goes to show that one should avoid saying things in private that they would not care to have shouted to the world. 18:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "Rot in secrecy or come out to everyone" is some pretty rockin' advice for terrified, closeted gay people.  19:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * At the end of the day who gives a flying tuppeny ha'penny over who said what to whom about whom. I mean really, I know this whole site has disintegrated to squabbling worthy of playschool but even when MC outs me as a serial paedophile mass murdering move downloader called Albert Speers of 37 Acacia Avenue, what the difference? Bad Faith (talk) 22:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * For one, it means I won't be talking to you anymore. Hanging out with mass murderers never pans out for me.   22:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "I know this whole site has disintegrated to squabbling worthy of playschool", no it hasn't, shutup! 00:27, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Text
I got your text but didn't respond because I forgot to pay my phone bill and the fuckers keep demanding payment. It isn't that I couldn't afford it, it is because I can't be assed going to pay it today. But, yeah, you are right. What the fuck? AceAce For Mod! 21:08, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hoser. I don't know but it's still stuck on the wire and the phone company is pointing the finger at the cable company and vice versa. 21:35, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Board of Trustees nomination
You have been nominated as a candidate in the 2012 election to the Board of Trustees. Accept or decline here. 06:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Word, fucking happy new years. You damned scum-swagging vagina man
AceAce For Mod! 08:54, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Happy new year, Ace! I responded more fully on an inappropriate place. Your wife's face. 13:38, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh and

16:54, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey
How come you didn't stand in the Moderator elections this time around? 00:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The short version is that, after an eye-opening experience at the beginning of all this, I'm convinced it would have been pointless to intervene in the few other instances I thought required it. I'll email you the rest if you're interested. 01:14, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough I guess, but you seem to have a better idea of the role than most. You were going to get one of my top votes, until I came to vote & didn't find your name on the list.  00:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Illogique
AceModerator 03:24, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Email
I have just...P-Foster Talk " a cheetos-eating, Mountain-Dew drinking vlogger living in someone's basement. " 17:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Getting close
I never noticed before, but you are getting close to me in terms of number of edits. You'll never beat the squirrel dude, however. Whenever I think I'm close to catching up to him, he goes on a spree. steriletalk 05:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Wu tang ain't nothing to fuck with...
...Really... AceModerator 05:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

On a lighter note... --Dumpling (talk) 06:39, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Awww thanks guys. They call Ace the Ol' Dirty Bastard because there's no father to his style. Dumpling is the chef cooking up some marvelous shit. 06:50, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Did HUSSEIN teach any of your classes?
Huh? P-Foster Talk " Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing. " 03:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This is a wild guess, as I am reading the question in vacuo, but is it perhaps something to do with the U.S. president of that middle name, who once taught at the University of Chicago Law School? 05:21, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * See Rob's talk page, where Nutty cops to being at Chicago when Obama taught there -- I was just asking him if he'd been in any of the man's classes, yes. P-Foster Talk " Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing. " 05:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

This parable actually happened: Back when I was a young black man on the South Side of Chicago, I remember a sneaky foreigner talking commie nonsense about some shit like organizing us into a militia to storm City Hall, burn down white people's houses, rape their women, eat their children, and elect another Harold Washington. That young half white devil was Barrack Hussein Obama. He literally jumped off that boat they got bringing Indonesian foreigners over here with ginned up birth certificates and swam straight to the shores of Lake Michigan to start popping off about economic and political self-determination while his back was still dripping wet. I think he even used words like subaltern and talked other political philosophy bullshit. And oh hell no to just standing by watching a monster like that savagely and viciously serve your children breakfast before school and then speak with people in the community about how to be heard in city politics. It's a damn shame that after finally getting away from the miasma that follows a creep like that around after he destroyed the South Side that I got roped in by some svengalis and found myself at a party with Saul Alinksy or Bernadrine Dorhn (I can't remember which - I was too high, hence palling around with white commie terrorists). They told me the only way to truly succeed was to have sensible conservative values and be a good Christian and that the only place around here to do that was U of C where they don't suck the public teet no sir. It wasn't 30 seconds after I got there I started hearing "Professor Obama" "Professor Obama". Wah wah wah. Everyone knows he was just an instructor or something menial like that. Maybe they had him sweeping up between classes. Everyone knows teaching law at a top 5 school is what high school kids do when they can't find better summer jobs. Just look the intellectual lightweights they hire: Richard Posner, Frank Easterbrook, Hussein Obama, and that kid who got hit in the head too much. So yeah, whatever. I sat in on some of his lectures but I never listened to a word he said. 05:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I forgot to add that Hussein is a member of the Black Panther Party, the Black P-Stone Nation, and the American Indian Movement and not-so-distantly related to Pancho Villa. 06:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Malcolm X would be so proud of his son. DamoHi 08:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Eldritch Cleaver and Geronimo Pratt. 12:36, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * viva la revolución!
 * Also Russell Means. 04:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Russell is a putz. Clearly, that Hussein guy is best friends with America Hating, native American Ward Churchill.  [[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot    Grow a vagina 04:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Native-American wannabe, that is. 04:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How dare you call him a wannabe. He wrote books! He sells art.  He has long hair.  (he's a mean snarky sonofabitch to his white female students who know more than he does). [[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot    Grow a vagina 04:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * University of Chicago is bourgeois. Only 10% of the token window dressing underprivileged and affirmative action recipients receive Pell Grants. Contrast that with 30% at Central New Mexico Community College where real Americans go to school. nobsModerated 04:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Rob, not 24 hours ago you maintained that U of C was "?the public tit." Now it's bourgeois and elitist? Which is it? Also, if real Americans go to community colleges, what does that say about Andy Schlafly (Princeton, Harvard)? Real American? Or bourgeois? P-Foster Talk " Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing. " 04:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * (EC) So the "bourgeois" are not "real Americans" in your view? 05:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * (ec)Pell Grant recipients suck the public tit, and U of C uses quotas for the less fortunate. Real Americans suck the public tit while they decry socialism, as the bourgeois scum peddle socialist ideas to keep the small people down on the farm and limit their entry into elite colleges where rich and powerful segregate themselves from the lowlife proletariat with the exception of a token few they can control. nobsModerated 05:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey Rob, don't forget your buddy Karajou is also sucking the public tit, whilst making use of his state-funded university grant. Be sure to raise the issue with that money-sucking tick, won't you. -- PsyGremlin  05:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Now you see why I'm outta there...the blatant hypocrisy. nobsModerated 05:15, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "Now you see why I'm outta there" Oh? So it's my sock over there, calling Newt an orphan? -- PsyGremlin  05:20, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I still suspect that your mother drank heavily while you were in utero. P-Foster Talk " Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing. " 05:10, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Rob: the U of C eats ass clowns like you alive regardless of whether you can pay. Demanding excellence isn't bourgeois, it's distinctly American. Godot: talking to Fred Hampton's lawyer was a lot more enlightening than Agents of Repression. 05:21, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Demanding excellence isn't bourgeois... There are some who consider "excellence" to be a code word for "systemic discrimination against the non-bourgeois population." 05:38, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying not to do a spit-take at seeing U of C being labeled "socialist." Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite, although politics do vary across disciplines; at my alma mater they have a freshwater economics department, but other departments that are wall-to-wall pinkos. 06:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

True story about Pell Grants
This is a true story about Pell Grants. A 54 year old man applied and received a $5500 Pell Grant to attend a local college. He never once attended classes. He bought a Chrysler van for $2500, spent $2000 at the casino, and $1000 on dope. Driving home from the casino high on dope, he was rear-ended. The other drivers insurance company totaled the vehicle, paid him $2500, and sold it back to him for salvage at $250 (it was very much drivable). He faked injury, immediately contacted an attorney and began chiropractic treatment for 15 minutes a session, several time a week. He was referred to this doctor who began prescribing narcotics. The prescription cost $250 per month, of which he kept enough for himself and sold the rest on the street at $10 a pill, netting $1000 per month. This continued for more than a year until the doctor lost his license, at which time he instructed his attorney to settle the lawsuit. The lawsuit netted him $12,000. So he parlayed the fraudulently obtained Pell Grant into a vehicle valued at $2500, a $2250 cash settlement; $1000 a month in illegal income from prescription narcotics trafficking; free, legal narcotics for over a year from a bogus civil claim, and a $12,000 settlement. Seeing he didn't have spend all his money on drugs, all of it, that is, all of it, went to the casino. Only in modern America are such things possible. nobsModerated 05:56, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What's his name?--Brendiggg (talk) 05:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Let's call him 'the Greek'. nobsModerated 06:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The name of that man? Albert Einstein. Turpis 3:16 (talk) 06:30, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * When I attended college, you did not get a check for Pell Grant money; it was paid directly into your student account. 06:02, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course, in Rob's world, one person scamming the system makes the whole system bad. By his thinking, the House and Senate should be hanged from the Washington Monument. -- PsyGremlin  06:05, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Most schools deduct tuition from the grant and pay out the balance. In this case he got a package of aid from other sources that covered tuition. nobsModerated
 * I hear the welfare queens are buying caviar and Porsches with food stamps these days. True story. @Psy: If I weren't against the death penalty, that wouldn't sound so bad -- or in punditspeak, "A bold initiative full of big ideas." Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 06:09, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Food stamp allotments are roughly $200 per month in this part of the country; they sell for 50 cents on the dollar, or $100 cash on the street. In most grocery stores you can bump into someone in the isles who will go through the checkout line with you, pay for your items with their food stamp card, and you settle up outside the door at half price in cash. Or you can walk into a local Burger King franchise and sell the whole thing for $100 cash; leave the card overnight, give the manager your pin number, return 24 hours later to retrieve your card and pick up $100 cash. Most mom n' pop restaurants or small franchise owners will buy $200, $400, or $600 in EBT (food stamps) per day. nobsModerated 06:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * --<font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin  06:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Will this cite work? Some EBT sellers use Facebook. "In interviews and the Facebook posts themselves, the scammers say the deals work like this: The buyers typically pay 50 cents on the dollar for the benefits on [EBT} cards, either taking the card outright or borrowing it along with the seller's private PIN number."
 * or this one: "some grocery stores allegedly had been paying EBT cardholders 50 cents on the dollar for the food-only benefits, only to then redeem the cards for full value from the government."
 * or here: "According to DSHS (Washington State Department of Social and Health Services), the going rate to sell an EBT card on the street is 50 cents on the dollar. If someone has $100 in food stamps, that person could sell the card for $50 cold, hard cash on the streets." nobsModerated 06:35, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * So once again, a few people scamming the system makes the whole system bad? Tell me, if these people didn't have the food stamps... what then? All other issues being equal. --<font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin  06:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * A few? 46 million Americans receive food stamps - a record high. So it's not in congruent to assume food stamp abuse is at an all time high. I suspect we'll being hearing more about this. Gingrich calls Obama, the food stamp president. nobsModerated 07:21, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It's because Gingrich is a racist. AceModerator 07:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Death Penalty? More like Public Service, surely? --<font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin  06:15, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I keep hearing about unlawful use of firearms in the U.S. So Rob, you agree that the Second Amendment should be repealed?--Brendiggg (talk) 06:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * And in what year did this happen, Robert? And citation, please. steriletalk 06:16, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * He settled about 6 months ago. I know the man personally. nobsModerated 06:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yay! Andy's Dead Judges citation is alive and well and living in what passes for Rob's mind. --<font face="Wild Words"> PsyGremlin  06:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)