Talk:Asatru

Asatru politicians
I added a section on (the two) Asatru politicians. However, Neveruse thinks such a section is not a good idea. Thoughts? 19:46, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * As it was, especially in the first case, the added section did little to talk about the implications of practicing this particular brand of base stupidity for politics--if you can draw out interesting ways that Asturu or whatever the hell you call it shapes a politician's positions or policy initiatives (tax exemptions for battle axes, mandatory baying at the moon, or whatever it is these people do...) then I think it might be interesting...TheoryOfPractice (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The section did discuss that somewhat in the first paragraph, but I can also mention how the Odinist's emphasis on honor, loyalty, tradition, family, etc., would influence their political views. In Mr. Halloran's case, he opposes redevelopment in his neighborhood because of its potential to destroy the traditions there. 19:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Please don't try to argue that these politicians would have a particular commitment to "honor, loyalty, tradition, family" because of their silly beliefs. Just don't. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 20:18, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You have it backwards. 20:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh well. There was an addition showing "the implications of practicing this particular brand of base stupidity for politics" in a funny SPOV way but for some stupid reason it kept getting reverted on sight.  Here again are those implications:  Jeez, how did his swearing in ceremony go, anyway? "On this hammer of mighty Thorr and the honorable oath-ring of Tyr, I, Daniel son of Daniel great great grandson of Prince Halloran of Normandy do by this horn of mead swear to smite Loki, the Skraellings and Jotuns and all liberals and Democrats and defend the Holy and Ancient Realm of Queens, New York in the name of King Bloomberg, so mote it be by the mighty name of the runes, fuck it I'm really drunk.  More mead!  Baaaarrrff!"  Wouldn't surprise me.  And yes Halloran really is that ridiculous.  But for some reason the Guardians of the Wiki and Senior Admins here didn't want that addition, so don't even try adding it back in now.&mdash; Unsigned, by: 193.200.150.152 / talk / contribs
 * The problem with this troll is, he keeps injecting perfectly valid criticisms but doing it very badly, so the whole effect is lost, and it reads like some idiot decided to tack puerile insults on the page in random locations. 04:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * God, you're such a douche bag. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 20:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

symbol
when i look at the symbol at the top of the page, all i see is a dick with the end bitten off and crushed balls Tweety (talk) 19:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No doubt your are reading it correctly.--BobSpring is sprung! 20:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Onanism? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Now I look at it again in that light, it does need straighter edges; blame my poor skills with Inkscape. 02:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Blot
Blot isn't a round of toasts to anyone. Blot is about animal sacrifice, but most Asatruar just give offerings and call it blot. There's usually a little monologue about a deity(or whomever the blot is for) thrown in, maybe some poetry or galdr(song) as well. No toasts though. Symbel is all toasts.

On oath-breaking
A line from “A Companion to Old Norse-Icelandic Literature and Culture” (Blackwell), on a section by Terry Gunnel (p. 84):

> [The Æsir–Vanir war is] a conflict that is won only by broken oaths and self-sacrifice (both of which are key features of the heroic poems).
 * On the other hand, in stories like that of the birth of Sleipnir, the Gods go to some effort to circumvent an oath rather than break it outright. 18:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Racism
The article is false in that it stated that there is no mention of racism.

Lay of Rig/Rigsthula. Thrall (Black Man) is inferior to his younger brother Jarl (White man) who gets the runes and leadership. If Asatru is applied globally to all people and thus open to all then it is a racist religion and if it isn't applied globally then it is an Ethnic religion. But the Lay of Rig is highly racist in the wording and so the article should reflect as such. People can feel free to ignore some of the eddas but that is on them. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 108.77.141.204 / talk


 * you are operating on the assumption that this poem is reflective of the much later notion of ethnicity's, rather then the then-current class structure. As shown by the names of all human characters involved.