Talk:Daily Mail

"only Rupert Murdoch's Sun is worse"
I object to this statement because at least The Sun doesn't pretend to be anything but a tabloid rag. People reading The Daily Mail are lead to believe it's not a common tabloid. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 85.211.186.54 / talk / contribs

"Hotel killers"
While the other articles listed are certainly worthy of mockery, I don't see the problem with being outraged that murderers were released from jail and given jobs at a hotel. Thanos6 (talk) 04:47, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

religion
just because someone doesnt have religion as an important part of their daily life doesnt mean they arent religious. also, that survey was only on younger people, who are generally less religious.

Two Points

 * 1) Paul Dacre is no longer editor of the Daily Mail.
 * 2) The article makes fun of using the Daily Mail as a source and discuses attempts to archive Daily Mail material so it can be consulted without directly giving them ad revenue, but directly links to several articles from the Mail. HeadlessDenise (talk) 21:51, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * First can be updated. As for the latter, people are too lazy to try to use redirects/archives instead. 01:14, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

its huge
i mean really huge. the views section. it just goes on and on and on. obsessively so. its become a rant. a fraction of whats there would do. it does not help what argument is being made. it is overkill and along with the excessive hyperbole stops being a punchy take down of the mail pretty quickly denigrates through attrition into making you think you might have a problem and safely write off the criticism as rabid hyperbole. the mail is awful, rant makes us look rabidly partisan and unhinged.

Much of the content here needs a judicious culling. there is too much detail and interest in what is inconsequential dross. a summary would have sufficed with none of the over the top barbed commentary which is laid on so thick that even if its all fair and accurate makes it look unhinged. inane commentary about its use of grammar to huge leaps and assumptions about what its readers think of thomas the tank engine. theres enough we can lay at the mails door without going overboard on this kind of crass exaggeration we accuse the mail.

and despite such a vast outpouring of counter productive venom that this article is, no mention of stephen lawrence or the murderers headline they ran with. it puts the mail in a positive light but but only if we ignore the sharp relief it puts on its other content and how seemly out of character it was.

i dont remember it always being like this. has someone had trouble sleeping? AMassiveGay (talk) 23:15, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * totally agree I noticed when I went to fix one of the recent edits. There’s a lot of “The Mail” starting a lot of the sentences too. LurkingGnome (talk) 23:23, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * One single IP has added 35K of text to the article since last November. It definitely needs some compression. Cosmikdebris (talk) 23:23, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I chopped it. I removed a lot of the more vapid ones. The old revision goes on and on and on about objectification when we already have a rather big section on it. I actually find it disturbing the fixation on that part of the Daily Mail. A lot of the content goes way too much into how readers react to a story rather than the reporting (which is already discussed in the article anyway). It also repeats a lot of what the Daily Mail has been established being known for, such as repeated talk about how anti-immigrant Daily Mail is and how creepy about women they are. Some stuff I kept include their complaint about violent video games while they are happy to show violent footage (which is a problem of media in general; tangent: I remember news media showing footage of a man being burnt alive). Animal stories are just filler in the article, I don't see what's so noteworthy about talking about them. We really need some more curation for this sort of stuff. And use this as a lesson: revisions that add thousands of bytes are not always "good" edits, and be especially vigilant if it's added by a BoN. But anyway, are my edits good? It's probably better, but we still have some work to do. Isn't it great that the BoN that added all this didn't bother formatting the sources? 03:32, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

one more thing
Please revert any edits made by the BoN. We've repeatedly warned this user to properly format sources, but warnings have been ignored and we haven't followed through with the warnings. 03:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Give credit where credit is due
Since so many negatives have been covered, should also mention the Valentine's Day front-page "MURDERERS" headline. AnonMoos (talk) 21:43, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

THis is hillarious
Daily Mail complains about a ridiculous conspiracy theory about Princess Diana: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3054593/Diana-Prince-Charles-secret-daughter-living-hiding.html completely self-unaware. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 45.56.153.45 / talk

Broken Clock
Following the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence, the 5 suspects weren't convicted despite a shit ton of evidence against them most likely due to institutionalised racism. The Valentine's day 1997 issue of the Mail had the word "MURDERERS" at the top of the front page with the names and pictures of the 5 suspects below it with the words "The mail accuses these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us." None of them sued, putting even more pressure on the met and possibly resulting in the convictions of two of them in 2012. A usually racist rag risking being taken to the cleaners to get justice for the family of a young black man who was killed in a racist attack is a broken clock moment if ever there was one. Evilatheistheathen (talk) 22:58, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well it's not much of a high bar but if it takes for the friggin' Mail to bring something to justice, our society's more messed up than I thought. 03:48, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * One story has it that the Heil only gave a shit about Stephen Lawrence was because his father had done some plastering work for Paul “Vagina Monologue” Dacre and made a good job of it. Mr Larrington (talk) 10:58, 17 October 2022 (UTC)