Conservapedia talk:Mystery: Why do black americans vote for liberal candidates/talk

Abortion
If many black people support abortion, doesn't it stand to reason many black people would get abortions?--IanG 18:25, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Probably, but I don't see what your point is. BHarlan 18:29, 20 October 2008 (EDT) I think Ian's point was that the statement doesn't make sense. No group of people who is for abortions is going to be against abortions simply because abortions are being performed! HelpJazz 19:02, 20 October 2008 (EDT) I don't think the causality works that way. If you ask people if they are against sin, everyone would say yes. Yes, we are all sinners.

Furthermore, I do not know the numbers, but if 70% of Black Americans were pro-life and the other 30% got abortions, that would, I think, be both more support of life and a higher percentage of women getting abortions than the country as a whole. BHarlan 19:11, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

You might be right about that 70/30 thing, but then that also answers your mystery. ;-) What is currently written is this: "Why do so many Black Americans support abortion?" This is especially baffling because so many Black American babies are killed by abortion... This statement, as written, implies that black people should be against abortion because black babies are aborted. If we assume that black babies are aborted by people who support abortion (which seems to be a reasonable assumption for the majority of people) then that statement is saying "Black people should be against abortion because black people support abortion." It might not be what you intend, but that's what's implied in what you wrote. HelpJazz 19:18, 20 October 2008 (EDT) I see. Thanks for the tip. BHarlan 19:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT) IanG - that's a flatly irrational argument. I'm for the right of every human to have a chance to eat snails. But I'd never eat one myself. I'm for a witch's right to be a witch, for a jewish chanter's right to sing, for a Muslim American's right to be honored in Arlington - but I'm not a witch, jewish, nor Muslim, nor do I wish to be. I'm for my right to read the Bible during quiet hours at school, but that doesn't mean I want to proselytize in school.--JeanJacques 11:23, 21 October 2008 (EDT) HelpJazz was clearer than I was on trying to make the point. I think you're inferring something I did not intend by my use of words.--IanG 11:47, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Segregation
Is this page for real? What the hell? There's atleast 10 reasons on this page and NONE of them mention a certain movement that happened in the 1960's where Conservatives ran Presidental candidates who supported keeping the negro race "out of our churches, out of our swimming pools, and out of our schools". MAYBE this has something to do with it.--TanyaC 20:06, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Those were Democrats. BHarlan 20:35, 20 October 2008 (EDT) Not everything from the past carries over directly to the present- a lot of these guys were "Dixiecrats," southern Democrats who supported segregation, and a number of them went over to the Republican party. There's plenty of blame for both political parties- this was a national issue, not one neatly contained in any single political party. To say that "those were Democrats" or just blame conservatives is a gross oversimplification of the issue. Corry 10:34, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Religion
I won't even attempt to hide my disgust at this piece of drivel, but I would like to point out that in America, the majority of black people are Christians, with the next largest groups being Jews and Muslims. The idea that Black people vote for liberals because we somehow think that Christians were responsible for slavery is not only downright insulting, but it's also really really stupid. NateE Let Us Communicate 16:15, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

Your rude attitude is not welcome here. Nonetheless, as I try to follow conservative values and "What would Jesus Do?", I have tried to pull what little value there was out of your rant and put it in the article. If you want to contribute constructively, I encourage you to do so next time. Once you calm down, I'm sure no one will object if you edit your rudeness. I say this as an sinner, like us all. May God bless you. BHarlan 16:47, 22 October 2008 (EDT)