Conservapedia:Greatest Conservative Songs

Take re-edits since 20 April 2013 into account

This page might be in need of an update as there may have been changes to the CP list.

Because apparently Conservapedia is not a big fan of the 1000's of hymns and Christian rock songs out there.

"Conservative is a term that is well-understood. A "conservative song" reflects some of those values without diluting them with a liberal message.--Aschlafly 15:42, 26 July 2007 (EDT)" "Many of the songs here have a powerful conservative message, and demonstrate that the music industry does not have to be liberal.--Aschlafly 15:00, 18 February 2008 (EST)"  and  "P.S. Liberals do say conservative things from time to time. We're listing songs here, not artists.--Aschlafly 15:01, 18 February 2008 (EST)"  (Because like Picasso fans, it's the art, not the artist, that matters.)

''This list has been made for the purpose of beration and mockery analysis and criticism of cp:Essay:Greatest Conservative Songs

For a way cooler list, here's: Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative

Red links and blue links are incidental (at least the imported stuff)—somewhat incidental fun in the case of the latter.

It's likely that the lyrics of some of these songs have been widely taken out of context by Conservapedians. Consider some less-than-truthful Christian literature that refers to biblical verses without actually quoting such, or leaving out important follow-up verses, or even not quoting them in their entirety while making it look they did. One hypotheical example: "As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons." Song of Solomon 2:3. Sounds complete, huh.

This is also done by some less-than-truthful Christians/Conservapedians who attack other works by atheists, liberals, writers of books like the Qur'an or other songs. For example, one might imagine the XTC song Dear God being cited as promoting beer-drinking among children.

It seems that many Conservapedians, like many people in general, like a few or some pop songs regardless of the ideology of the songs. For example Rush Limbaugh's show begins with The Pretenders. In the talk page of the CP "essay, " Ed Poor suggested a list of "Songs of interest to conservatives" or Songs that Conservatives like, even if such songs aren't conservative. That doesn't seemed to have happened on CP, so what they might be doing is trying try to put in some essentially non-conservative (depending on your definition of conservative) songs they like into their essay and give some cockamamied excuses for doing so. This is probably true to an extent with the RationalWiki list or the many Wikipedia lists. The thing is, however, music seems to be more liberal than right-wing conservative, particularly rock—be it 1950's rock 'n' roll, classic rock, punk, and most heavy metal. Ed Poor's idea has merit, but this would likely be an admission that one could list conservative songs, i.e. songs that are politically correct in terms of Conservapedia or other noted conservatives, and list songs that are half-decent to good to great songs (a few which are in the RW list), but rarely would the two lists coincide. Hence, they try to stick in the square pegs.

Another possibility, of course, is parody by some CP editors. Try this: "In XTC's Dear God, Andy (Partridge) bares his soul and doubts to his Heavenly Farther, and in the video he brings down the tree symbolic of the Tree that lead to the Fall—complete with old serpentine has-been liberal atheists in the branches."

"There are many brilliant—and popular—conservative songs. Here is our growing list (click the box next to "Billboard Rank" to list the most popular first):" These songs tend to be in alphabetical order.

Debatable Whether Conservative

 * Over the Rainbow (Judy Garland) From the movie that introduced the world to Glenda the Good Witch. To Conservapedians, witchcraft is 100% real, and there is no such thing as a "good witch".
 * White Christmas (Bing Crosby) Celebrates a modified pagan festival.

Also questionable:
 * Still the One by Orleans - a very good song about marital fidelity. However, one of the singers, John Hall, later became a Democratic Congressman from New York and sued Republican presidential candidate John McCain over the use of the song in his campaign. Of course, many G.O.P.'ers debate whether McCain's conservative.

Talk Page
in more or less chronological order, names in quotes are internally linked and on that note, let's open up a can of Mountain Dew and get ready to Debate:Are we saved by faith or works? --Ed Poor Talk 17:16, 3 August 2007 (EDT)"
 * I know this is being nitpicky, but I don't like the message of Last Kiss because it seems to suggest a works salvation, that one gets to heaven by doing good rather than accepting Jesus. DanH 23:30, 27 July 2007 (EDT) ''...
 * A lot of CP'ers give praise to U2's Gloria and Beautiful Day, but no U2 on the list. Sex Pistols, Rolling Stones, Dylan, and Beatles, but no U2.
 * Andrew Schlafly defends Village People's YMCA. Later Conservative opposes it Ed Poor chimes in, citing a Wikipedia reference as a reason to remove it—though WP is considered too unreliable by CP, but somehow it's not on the list.
 * Ed Poor suggests a "Songs of interest to conservatives" or Songs that Conservatives like, even if such songs aren't conservative. After all, "liberals are supremely narrow-minded" [nor is the quote really taken out of context]
 * An "Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies." Maybe time to have a RW given Hollywood Conservatism.
 * Finally, Wouldn't It Be Nice isn't about marriage, it's just about idyllic teenage love, marriage is just incidental. GiveMeLiberty 09:21, 3 October 2011 (EDT) The lyrics include, "We would be married, and then we'd be happy."
 * Tracy Chapman.........,Her song, "Fast Car" is about a woman who lives in the ghetto, falls in love with an alcoholic, dreams of changing him and realizes she cannot. She leaves him. I am not convinced that is a Conservative song. SusanF
 * You're welcome to organize it as you think best ... as long as its conciseness, most-important-songs-first presentation is not diluted. The Wikipedia-style of up-front tables of contents and sometimes obscure-information-first is disfavored here.--Andy Schlafly 13:22, 27 November 2011 (EST);Improvements are welcome, but I doubt alphabetizing the list, so that obscure titles end up near the top, would improve it. When visitors look at the page, they'd probably like to see some popular songs first.--Andy Schlafly 23:35, 27 November 2011 (EST); and, Another suggestion: In the interests of consistency and correct form, song titles should be in quotation marks; album titles should be in italics. BryanF 17:24, 4 January 2013 (EST) As it is there are no albums listed, the first song on the list is conservative-content-free Living in America, the first several 10's of songs are in Alphabetical order despite prominence/obsurity or how conservative or non-conservative they are.
 * A SammyP and Andrew Schlafly get into a disagreement about Reagan's tax legacy, with the former saying that Reagan increased them—largest peacetime, apparently.
 * Offsprings's "Why don't you get a job" isn't on the list.