RationalWiki:Articles for demotion/Lost Cause of the South

Demote

 * 1) I've edited the whole page and added a section on textbooks promoting the Lost Cause. Bongolian (talk) 07:44, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) Relevancy: checked (so many cranks...), not repetetive: checked, no bare links: checked. My only minor quibble is five "see wikipedia reference"s (ref. 8, 49, 50, 51, 60) that should preferably get a primary source. Reference 3 is a note, so that should be changed. Beyond that, I have no objections. Silver with potential long-term candidate for Gold perhaps? -- Techpriest (talk) 17:23, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Conversion of ref 3 done. Others will have to wait. Andrew5 mobile (talk) 18:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The 3 remaining WP citations are for establishing an ancestral connection to slave owners in a footnote. It's a bit complex to replace the citations I think. Bongolian (talk) 06:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It's fine, no need to fret over those citations. Like red links, you don't need to have zero, just a reasonable amount. 07:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Mention of slavery == Critical Race Theory, and if the radical left wants to promote CRT, the RATIONAL thing to do is demote it instead. (In seriousness, I think this article is a good counterweight to the mindset I am spoofing that would like to deny the role of race in American history. I especially like the direct quotes from the Confederates themselves, as well as how many other resources it points to so that readers can learn more, which I think is especially valuable when there's a movement to actively try to teach myths and hide the truth.) Vomitorium (talk) 15:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Goat

 * 1) Article looks good but IMO the opening paragraph is a bit too short and I'd like a little more detailed summary, but IDK I hope my request isn't unreasonable. For instance, we can get common examples of "a number of interpretations of the American Civil War from an effectively pro-Southern perspective"; e.g. the coinage of "War of Northern Aggression" or the idea the South defended itself to preserve its culture, etc. We can also see a brief discussion on how popular the narrative was (of course the history section goes into detail, but we could definitely summarize if such rhetoric was common during Reconstruction or more common in Civil Rights Era, etc.) 06:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)