RationalWiki:Nothing is going on at Citizendium/2010

December 2010
 Experts(!) at CZ don't know how to tell the time! How bad was the homeopathy situation on Citizendium? This bad. At last Ramadamadingdong is told that there is doubt "that you are, in fact, an expert." Well done Howie! Everyone wonders why CZ can't recruit experts any more. Hayford Pierce, Secretary of Citizendium's Editorial Council, declares that anyone who thinks Citizendium's registration questions are too intrusive is an imbecile—and a cretin, too. Good thing that's apparently not a personal attack within forum rules. The problem with making big plans for everybody is finding anyone who can be bothered doing them. You mean we have to do work? All hail! A rather less Ullmanised version of Homeopathy is approved. Martin resigns. CZ is too conservative to get anything done. Martin endorses RationalWiki as the place where problems with Citizendium can actually get discussed, as Citizendium is apparently too sensitive to tolerate any dissent. Though Matt says he doesn't want to de-Citizen Thomas Larsen, he moves the thread to Non-Citizen Discussion. And nukes discussion of Tendrl. Having spectacularly failed to take out Howard once, Martin threatens him with another round. When reminded that threats are a blatant Charter violation, he confirms that some abusive posters are more equal than others. Milton: Let's get this treasonous rabble declared non-Citizens! That'll fix our wiki. Matt: The experts won't write for us because of Wikipedia! (Rather than Larry driving them away.)

November 2010
How dare the mere Managing Editor, the hapless knave replacing Larry at the top of the Citizendium, have the nerve to ask the Editorial Council what it is they actually plan to, er, do editorially. A dog, you hear me? How long before we hear: N or M didn't contribute so we can ignore them (By the way, we would sure appreciate it if you and/or Thomas Larsen would make a donation to our fund drive. Happy Thanksgiving!!)  "It has now become apparent that the Council will be able to function as planned and that the motion concerning Howard was an unproductive hindrance to our attention to other matters." e.g., existence. King Martin speaks: [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,3651.msg37781.html#msg37781 This does not fall under the remit of the ME, and the EC would oppose it anyway. It is too serious a structural change to be decided lightly.] (our emphasis) Who crowned you, Martin? Later: Martin petulantly stamps his feet: "Shut up, all of you!" <vote poll=cz12 closed="yes">The Chemistry and Particle Physics of CZ spoof can be found here <vote poll=cz11 closed="yes">Wikipedia: "Except as described above, Wikimedia policy does not permit distribution of personally identifiable information under any circumstances." Citizendium: "Hey, let's just hand all our readers' click data over to Google!" <vote poll=cz10 closed="yes"> "Right now, we are working on a means of opening another channel of communication with the Citizens -- we hope to have it ready shortly" Quoth Hayford. i.e. one where teh non citizens won't be able to kibitz? <vote poll=cz9 closed="yes">Tom Morris has had it with these reprehensible snakes on this reprehensible plane, and has quit the Editorial Council. <vote poll=cz8 closed="yes">While the debate about debate continues, the homeopathy article is still an embarrassment and the healing arts workgroup is still in place, but the good news is Dana Ullman hasn't been around in weeks. <vote poll=cz7 closed="yes">Good news: CZ has negotiated a discount for their overpriced, bloated, often unreliable hosting package. Will the donations be enough to keep them afloat till Sanger actually passes over legal control instead of a token pat on the head? Germany awaits! <vote poll=cz6 closed="yes">Most police states take decades to reach this level of confusion: Citizens can't ask questions, because the answers will get deleted by the constables, so the EC has to ask the ME and MC to rule that the EC can ... oh, nevermind, here is a fun quote from Martin instead: "I will not answer any more questions and will ask the Constabulary to delete all discussions that in my view require open debate which is being suppressed here." <vote poll=cz5 closed="yes">Citizens getting uppity and daring question Matt's infinite blocks? Delete the forum post. Then delete the forum post about the deletion. <vote poll=cz4 closed="yes">Anyone fancy a police state? Whose idea was it to call 'em "constables" anyhow? Update: topic was deleted from forum. Unfortunately such perfidy was not anticipated by the author of this entry Now you know why reporting on Citizendium requires you to keep screenshots. <vote poll=cz3 closed="yes">CZ founder Larry Sanger rejects Wikipedian offers of help while also referring to them as "vipers". <vote poll=cz2 closed="yes">CZ received affiliate money from Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble for the last four years - but nobody knows who owns the affiliate account or how much it earned. Missing donors' money and a lack of accountability revisited. <vote poll=cz1 closed="yes">CZ started as a fork of wikipedia, but now talk of a CZ fork is high treason. <vote poll=cz0 closed="yes"> David Gerard is mysteriously blocked for "gross misconduct", but hasn't edited CZ for almost three years and has never posted on the forums. That'll show him what-for. Was it his edit at RationalWiki, perhaps? That'll make sure the Citizens don't dare speak out of turn anywhere.