Conservapedia talk:What is going on at CP?/Archive130

Featured rubbish
I know nobody is editing any more, but surely they can do better than this for a featured article?-- 08:26, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Well you see Joaquín Martínez wrote that article and he is the person who has taken it upon themselves to chooses the featured article of the week, so no matter how bad it is or how many other articles there are nominated he has to pass over, it gets to be article of the week. 199.33.173.1 08:36, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm waiting with baited breath for his next masterpiece... cp:Christian Cross. It's on the list too, I see, along with Addy's cp:Essay:The Coming Fifth Great Awakening in America --PsyGremlinWhut? 09:10, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh, I don't know; it's got lots of pretty pictures. That's how I judge the quality of articles.   09:39, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ah yes, the "Petite Gallery". That's presumably because English (best language in the history of the world, well, apart from Latin, depending on the point you're trying to make ) doesn't have a word for "small". Cantabrigian 10:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The problem is that in French, petite just means small but it in English it means small but perfectly formed and as cute as hELL. Генгис    10:29, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * That just goes to show how English is so superior - look how much more meaning it gets out a single word than the pathetic attempt the French language makes. Take that you frogs! Silver Sloth 11:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The French are despicable, just look what the bastards did to Joan of Arc.  Lily Ta, wack! 13:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * SES Testimonial #2: "Because of its [Conservapedia's] unbiased point of view, I can always trust that what I am reading is the truth. When Conservapedia says a gallery is perfectly formed and cute as hELL, it is." --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 14:43, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Arsenal FC is proposed as a feature article. Apart from the fact that it reads like an essay from a 12 year old it includes the gem "After his unexpected death, George Allison came in and guided them to three consecutive League titles." Jessica agrees that it should be a featured article, further evidence that she is a parodist. JoeDuffy 03:42, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Nah, just a case of her showing her nice side. You don't think those people actually read the articles they're proofing over there, do you? --PsyGremlinWhut? 03:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I know we try to ignore conservative
but apparently 🇰🇪 think Richard Dawkins reads Conservapedia. Hold your breath waiting for a reply, Ken! 11:47, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Dude, the left side of the mainpage is such a mess right now it's not even funny--he's got a shout out to Ricky D. trampling all over Joaquin's masterpiece, and I can't keep up with all the articles of the whatever and guest treasures and whatnot anymore... TheoryOfPractice 11:58, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I am in agreement with the plan to link spam shit until it's #1 for evolution on google. Nothing would be better than watching hundreds of unsuspecting people contributing to, and getting banned from, Conservapedia. Neveruse513 11:59, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm not sure what 🇰🇪 thinks will happen if CP's article gets higher in Google ranking. Okay, I do know.  But, does he really think that we're scared that it will get a high rank or OMG!11!1 #1?  I say go for it.  I hope it is #1.  All the more people who will look at it, say "what the... hell... is... this?", hit their browsers BACK button, and then click on the Wikipedia entry.  12:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ken deleted his evolution article because it's view count had been hyper-inflated. I presume he wanted to see how many views it really gets thanks to his SEO. The only problem is that it looks like it is being bumped again as I have noticed some incredibly large daily page view counts which don't fit in with the normal viewing pattern. Генгис    12:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * (EC: Bumped? Maaaybe) It is all quite hilarious. Every week, he's convinced that Operation Elusive Muskrat  Saucy Puddle  Shambling Doorjam Rotund Crevice will draw thousands of evolutionists to CP, all of whom will the read the article and immediately reject evolution.  Likewise every (evolutionist) person who watches one of the inane youtube videos will immediately read the article, reject evolution, and will likely go about skewering sacred cows and secular scientist paradigms.  Thus he obsessively records the number of views  of the evolution article, even though I'm responsible for at least 80% of them (I'm guessing >95%, but the program I'm using, Obsession for Men, can't keep track).  12:32, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I am ABSOLUTELY in support of your proposal, Neveruse.  The more linkage, the higher the Google ranking for his articles, the more lulz for us as more people drop by to Conservapedia.   Now, how can we realistically help linkspam that stuff and get Ken's stuff to No.1 in the charts?   DogP  13:06, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * We could make fake blogs that link to it or just linkspam every related forum we can find. Neveruse513 13:20, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Two things disappoint me about the Main Page right now. A) There is not enough content - the page needs quite a lot more content to help CP get its full, broad-spectrum message across succinctly.    And, B)   Hitwin isn't high enough up the page. Ken - try to improve the Main Page a bit more please, your work is not yet done. DogP  13:16, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * As I pointed out above, the left side is just Ken and Joaquin - Dawkins and copythefted images. Truly encyclopedic.  Lily Ta, wack! 13:25, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

0h n0es! plan is going exactly as forseen! He is using us as his puppet through his cleverly placed socks here! Soon, his site will be growing rapidly! Theemperor

Ken - if you add Stalin to the left of Hitler, we could nickname your picture Shitwin, and that would be funny for us liberal gentlemen for a few minutes, so please do that, OK? Thanks. DogP  17:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

User:Conservative/Gentlemen
http://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/Gentlemen Jaxe 15:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Gentleman Jaxe, you're new here I presume. Генгис    15:21, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Archived for fun. Conservapedia:Sysops/Conservative/Gentlemen --Irrational Atheist 15:42, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh to be new to all those wonderful lulz is a wonderful treat indeed. tealish ??!!!1 16:23, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I think the others we bothered to save are at the red telephone article? This one was mostly just a CS Lewis quote, wasn't it?  Why did we bother, exactly?  ħ uman  16:54, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Needless to say, time will tell why we bother regarding bothering. Regarding user Conservative: is he just some kind of malfunctioning artificial intelligence program? It's most likely that in regard to this that time will tell in regard to this most likely. Matt oblong 17:01, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * No, he's a malfunctioning artificial stupidity machine. Ours works better.  ħ uman  22:17, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Poor CS Lewis. I happened to like his writing, but now it's all tainted by  assorted effluvia.  Regarding his insane rambling, why can't he figure out how the English language works?  Matt is right; when a person not only can have their style replicated by a script, but their writing looks like a poorly-written script, something is the matter.  17:34, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * What a strange man Ken is. I look at the logs on CP and it seems that he just obsessively edits and re-edits this drivel, many times a day.  If it weren't for basically ruining the main page, I'd say he's a big *yawn*.  Let's stop paying attention to him already.  It's not like Thunderf00t can't take care of himself when it comes to dealing with these fundie dopes on Youtube, which seems to be Conservative's new fixation.  Nutty Roux 22:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Amazingly Ken proves himself even more stupid by admitting that he deleted the Evolution article by accident. And did it twice! Ken you should have maintained it was really for SEO reasons. Генгис    03:47, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Mainpage
This has been mentioned above (I think - somewhere) but the main page is AWESOME at the moment! Pictures of rabbits in holes, Hitwin, Articles of the year, poor children as victims of atheism etc etc. It's such a mess that anyone seeing Conservapedia for the first time (such as, oh I dont know, the New Jersey State Education Board) will wonder what the hell this cluster fuck is. Brilliant! Ace McWickedRevolt 16:37, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Gentlemen Ace, come out of your intellectual bunny hole at once! -- 16:42, 7 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Oh yup, as soon as it's mentioned TK clears it all up. Thanks TK! My why dont you send me a thank you email you cowardly piece of shit? In Christ. Ace McWickedRevolt 17:00, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

aceMcWicked in his insistence on Hitwin has revealed himself as a MUSLIM agitator. A devout english person would read From Left to right and realise that the pic is NOT Hitwin but rather Darler ! Another sample of LIBRUL DECEITINESS .... Hamster 19:21, 7 April 2009 (EDT) just practicing :)


 * One thing is for sure though... the main page needs more content, bigger images and more content. More of those thumbnails that look like shitty javascript floating things. A scrolling banner along the top part of the screen, READ THE EVILUTION ARTICLE AND PREPARE FOR OPERATION 🇰🇪 :) :) :). More thought of the day, thought of the month, thought of the year, featured thought of the day. More callouts to prominent scientists and atheists - because they're likely definitely reading this stuff. More stuff on the left-hand side so the right hand side has a massive blank at the bottom. Any noob with half a brain would scrap most of that content shit and devote a sentence or two to explain what the blog encyclopedia is doing. FurryQuack 20:34, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Another thing it's missing is a hefty quantity of advertising.  It would be teh awesome if there was mad Bibble  pop-up ads and the like.   DogP  21:20, 7 April 2009 (EDT)


 * I have a feeling that between this and this from Joaquin, the mainpage is about to get more cluttered... with drivel. --PsyGremlinWhut? 08:48, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Reading that page I notice that TK is being his ususal jingoistic and boorish self. Генгис    10:18, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

The art and artifice of hyperbole
Over reaction at its finest "On April 2, 2009, the work of July 4, 1776 was nullified at the meeting of the G-20 in London.". Goodness, one trip to europe and the whole damn country is nullified.-- 17:01, 7 April 2009 (EDT)



T(K)witter
I reinstated the TK = PatriotGams123 edit as I have been following him for quite a while. For a supposedly youngish mom, PG123 likes a lot of late 60s early 70s rock and is very Reaganite. What you don't know is that until recently PG123 actually had TK as their real name,(wish I'd screencapped that) although along with the image I see it has been changed now. Some clues that it is the TK whom we love and admire:
 * "RT @falloutkid07 Congressman Barney Frank faces College..." (well known TK subject)
 * many tweets at RenoCon (TK works in Reno)
 * He also follows Jpatt ( known as jay_pe (Conservapedia)
 * Posting times synchronise with TK's editing at CP.

He also follows me although he doesn't know it. Генгис   17:07, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * This goes to help confirm my theory that there are no women on the internet and anyone who claims to be so is actually a man 20 years older than the claimed age. --Shagie 17:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Damn, how did you spot me? Oh, you were talking about TK. <font color=Blue>Генгис    17:23, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Halp! I'm 84!! 17:37, 7 April 2009 (EDT) (85 next month!)
 * Hey, while it makes you 84, it means I can go camping and pee standing up. Oh god in heaven that will be nice.  (until you've had to pee squating on a hill side, trying to make sure it runs teh right direction, you simply do not understand the reason we women have penis envy).
 * Clearly, at that age you'd be toast. Teehee!
 * Heh heh. On a recent holiday in remote parts, when we stopped for a toilet break the "ladies" were encouraged to go down the hill whilst the "gents" were told to go up the hill. BTW ladeez have you not heard of the shewee? Mrs Khant has found it to be very useful. <font color=Blue>Генгис    18:02, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Skillful manipulation enables standing peeing, albeit with slightly bent legs and resulting in moist fingers. WHO THE EFF BROUGHT THIS UP? 18:05, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * So TK has his real name before PG123, or was it just TK? I hate to say this, but I'm mildly interested in twitter all the sudden. [[Image:AndyToad.gif|20px]]<font face="Comic Sans"><font color = "Green">Norseman  Cyser Melomel  17:43, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The Twitter ID was PG123 but the "real name" was just TK. <font color=Blue>Генгис    17:54, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Does "Gams" not mean the same over the pond? To me that reads as "Patriot Legs" & normally fanciable legs at that. (premusably from leg of gammon?) 18:12, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * As far as I'm aware it doesn't even mean the same on the other side of the Pennines. <font color=Blue>Генгис    18:31, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * among others 18:45, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * One of the problems with UD is that it often doesn't indicate the area of usage and much slang is highly regionalised. <font color=Blue>Генгис    09:32, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Eeeech, the idea of TK on Twitter, *shudder*, thank the Gods I don't use Twitter, if I did, I'd be feeling really dirty right about now.--<font color=Red>199.20.64.195 20:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The cool thing about Twitter that's different from IRC, every user is their own Andy Schafly. If you don't like what someone is saying, boom, they are out of your Twitterverse for good.  <div style="display:inline; display:inline-block; zoom:1; *display:inline; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-2px; position:relative; left:0px; top:0px; width:30px; height:10px; z-index:2;"><div style="display:block; width:30px; height:10px; line-height:10px; letter-spacing:30px; font-size:px; overflow:hidden; position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; z-index:3;">   [[Image:Xena symbol.png|Xena|text-bottom|30px]] 20:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah I can see how ignoring someone is easier than having to learn to support your arguments against criticism. - User   09:03, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Well some people would rather converse quietly and rationally as though they were sitting slightly apart having tea. Suppose the topic was whether or not female homosexuality was even mentioned in the Mosaic Law, let alone condemned.  One party might point out that the two genders are specified in the text, that "mankind shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind" and there is no corresponding condemnation for womankind with womankind.  But the other party just keeps saying, "LESBINISM IS A SIN YOUR POSSESSED BY DEMONDS WHY DONT YOU ACCEPT JESUS AS LORD?"  At that point its perhaps better to wrap up the conversation and more or less get a restraining order. <div style="display:inline; display:inline-block; zoom:1; *display:inline; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-2px; position:relative; left:0px; top:0px; width:30px; height:10px; z-index:2;"><div style="display:block; width:30px; height:10px; line-height:10px; letter-spacing:30px; font-size:px; overflow:hidden; position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; z-index:3;">   [[Image:Xena symbol.png|Xena|text-bottom|30px]] 09:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Vermont wigo
I know it's going down hard, but some more diffs might save it yet? As of a few repairs, it still reads "On April 7, 2009 activist legislators voted legalize same-sex marriage in Vermont, the first time in the nation's history that a legislature has ignored the voters' will on the issue."

Activist legislators? Parody or stupidity? Who wrote it first? TK? (so that would be both) Legislatures are the fucking "voters' will"! Especially in majorities high enough to override a veto! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  01:21, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Yes, but they used one of the conservative "magic words": activist. To a certain right wing mindset, all it takes to dismiss something is to use certain words in reference to it -- "liberal", "politically correct", "socialist", "activist", et cetera et cetera et cetera ad infinitum ad nauseam. MDB 07:03, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Part of the frustration/irony is that the Right Wing never listens to itself. When judges decide something (like gay marriage equity) the Right screams "let the legislature decide" "This should come from the law makers, not judges".  But when those law makers *do* decide, then the right screams something new.  When voters allow gay marriage in popular vote, I'm sure all the voters will simply be activist voters, right?-- 10:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Remember when conservatives were SCREAMING for judicial activism in the Terri Schiavo case? Corryundefined 10:36, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The bigger irony is that they have no problems overturning the "will of the people" when it suits them. Godot should be familiar with this in Colorado.  After the Columbine massacre, the voters overwhelming approved an amendment to the state consitituion requiring backround checks for all gun show purchases.  A new bill in the legislature would eliminate that provision as long as the buyer has a concealed carry permit.  The right is wetting themselves over this.... So the will of the people apparently only matters when you're on the losing side. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  11:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Wtf !??
Um. TK is against the inclusion of a "Democrats and casual sex" article, citing the fact that both political parties have had their share of sex scandals and it would be inappropriate to single out only the Democrats. What is this plot twist?! <font color="#008080">tealish <font color="#FFBF00">??!!!1 02:18, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Between that, his earlier statement that not all great composers were German, and this fifth-columnist support of well-known liberal/communist newspaper The Guardian, it's clear the world is being shaken to its core.  <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  02:46, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Anyone feel like writing Conservapedia related fiction?
Novelas is starting a collaborative project and I’ve created a character for the story. I feel this may need Schlafly experts from RationalWiki. We need Schlafly experts to ensure there is plenty of accurate criticism of Andrew Schlafly and nothing that could lead to successful legal action. See below. Fiction stew &mdash; Unsigned, by: Proxima Centauri / talk / contribs

It's now here. Proxima Centauri 11:49, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * I've had an idea for a satire on the left behind books, and Christian fiction in general that I've dubbed "Redneck Rapture" rattling around in my head for a few weeks now. I've pretty much got the first chapter down in my head, but I thought I'd wait 'til NaNoWriMo to commit it to paper (by which time, I'll have inevitably forgotten it.) -- 02:50, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * If you have drunk of the Mead of Poetry, you must take up your pen while you are still drunk. 02:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Andy, Ed, TK slash fiction? --Shagie 03:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * 🇰🇪 is the one with the obsession in that area. 03:20, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ed would do well in some teen porn. 03:23, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ed and 🇰🇪 living together sounds like a recipe for an odd couple sitcom to me. A fairly dark sitcom, but still funny. Is there already a sitcom called Closeted? -- 03:43, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

(UI)Sorry, it's already been done decades ago, it's called A Confederacy of Dunces. That's why one of Andy's aliasses is Ignatius. --GTac 04:50, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Is it too soon to officially deadpool CP?
I think CP is now more or less officially life extinct. All they have left is Andy, Karajou, JPatt, Kendoll and TK who essentially do no editing. All the actual edits in the last few weeks have been from RJJensen, whose card is marked for being far too liberal (read sane), JessicaT and JM. Then there's a smattering of one issue wonders like the KAL007 nutter, Daniel1212 and FOIA. I don't think RJJensen and JessicaT can be long for this world, so where does that leave CP? Dead, dead, dead. -- 04:11, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Certainly getting there, yup. Ace McWickedRevolt 04:14, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The death of CP is going to be hard to measure. Sure the activity is minimal now, but it has always been seasonal. It will only go off-line if Andy stops paying for it so that is unlikely with in the next 2 to 3 years. If in 6 months time we don't even have enough to WIGO more than once or twice a day then maybe we can declare it dead for most purposes. - User   04:19, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Wait until HSmom's gone - she's a real bellwether for the site. She's consistently been the only sane one there with the spread of activity. Jess has been taken over by the Andy/TK/Kara way and RJJ has never really done anything but perform factual edits. 04:27, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * RJ has not really added anything "new" per say, just new to Conservapedia, it is all stuff he has written before. He is not spending huge amounts of time there considering the amount of writing he is adding. - User   04:31, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Will CP become the Terri Schiavo of wikis? Who will finally pull the plug on Andy's brain-dead love-child? <font color=Blue>Генгис    04:46, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The SES application rejection will be the death knell. 04:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I dunno. I have a horrible feeling that Andy knows his application is doomed, but is going to use that as a rallying cry against "liberal formal education" or some such. That said, very few of his homeschoolers seem to edit there these days, which given that was the reason it was created in the first place, seems odd. Add to that the fact that most of the other regular editors, including those like CPalmer and Wesley, who were actually interested in keeping the wiki tidy, are over at Phil's Place and having found that wiki's don't need an oppressive atmosphere are unlikely to return and we're probably looking at the face of CP for the time to come. It's going to remain Andy spouting his increasingly bizarre brand of nonsense, JPatt launching his Obama-hate, Ken with his shout-outs to people who don't read CP and TK's trolling along with various wandals. The dream of it ever being a wiki to contend with WP is long dead. PJR's wiki was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. --PsyGremlinWhut? 05:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

CP is a long way from dead. You can eke out these things for years with minimal activity, especially with vigilant and malicious people to police the place. It will just turn into a frozen city, with a handful of improvements every week like a smear of plaster on a crumbling wall, and a vicious little gang of tyrants. It can never really die, since the only thing that can bring it down is if Andy decides to close it. And he won't do that for a very long time, even after it has essentially ground to a halt. How would that fare for his ego, after all?

Even if legitimate edits were almost entirely gone, Andy could keep the place going just by continuing to force his students to work on the place. He started out that way, and he could perpetuate it under that power indefinitely. Don't look for CP to die for years yet.--<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore fiat justitia ruat coelum 05:35, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * A few months ago, I wouldn't have predicted that CP would go the way that it has. Firstly, PJR had a long record of putting up with the madness of Andy and co. and continued to face off against the other obvious idiots/trolls. Even on the Obamuslim issue and gun control, he seemed to get uppity about it all and then just go quiet again.
 * Secondly, the return of TK has been a totally bizarre episode. Despite his track record, he's successfuly made it an impossible environment for any supposedly reasonable editor. Some people here were saying he was trying to take over CP, which was impossible due to Aschlafly keeping the keys to the kingdom. What he has done is to troll the place into the ground. Bravo, TK, but you're making life boring for the rest of us. Bondurant 06:10, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I don't think TK cares, so long as he can continue his power-tripping. - User   08:08, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * More and more, I suspect CP's ultimate demise will come when the entire thing is revealed to be a hoax. No human being could possibly be as utterly dense as Andy Schlafly with regards to TK's obvious parodist status. TK either really is Andy Schlafly, or is one of his best friends, and is part of the hoax. MDB 07:08, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * You know, I thought the same with the Bugler episode. The Assfly couldn't possibly be stupid enough to believe that Bugler was for real, he must be on to him but using him as a tool to clean up his wiki cost free. Then I remembered all the other things the Assfly does, and it hits me. No, he really is that stupid. -- 07:27, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I suggest a sweepstake. How about for guessing when 500 recent changes in CP's mainspace covers an entire week. I'm currently seeing four days, so I'll guess 25th October this year. Bondurant 08:17, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I can see only two days, what filters do you have on? - User   09:06, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Great mental image, Tom Moore! Czolgolz 09:06, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Just the drop down-box selected to (main) and show 500 edits, π. Bondurant 09:22, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I can see 4 days of edits on RationalWiki with those settings. - User   19:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * We don't pretend to be an encyclopaedia or have arbitrary rules like 90/10, or even claim that this site is growing rapidly. Bondurant 04:37, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

At some point so much of the world will be banned that *everyone* will have to use a proxy to access CP and continually endeavor to find a new one to start a new account every time TK or Karajou re-bans them. TK, Karajou - you're fucking clowns. I was legitimately trying to edit at CP but you kept banning me for using a proxy. Can either of you geniuses figure out why someone might HAVE to use a proxy? You apparently blocked my entire ISP, that of the coffee shop down the street, and my friend's university. Nitwits. 70.228.38.134 15:10, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Yep.  You can't edit CP from most of the coffee shops with wifi I'm ever in.   Oh dear.   <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  15:13, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Pinochet
I was reading cp:Pinochet and came across this scary bit: "Leftists complain that during his time in power over 3,000 people were killed or vanished,[1] but that total includes Marxist terrorists fighting to restore the constitutional government against the treasonous foreign-backed Pinochet dictatorship. In addition, over a quarter million Chileans were arrested."

In other words, it's fine for the government to abuse you as long as we think they're the good guys. Somebody should point out to them there are no good dictators. --PsyGremlinWhut? 10:08, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * In Conservative-world, there are good dictators. That's why they had two words for them during the Reagan years: "totalitarian" and "authoritarian". The former meant "dictatorships we don't like" and the latter meant "dictatorships we do like".


 * Now, I think an argument can be made that sometimes you have to deal with nasty people to lessen the impact of even nastier people. But that doesn't mean you're not dealing with dictators. MDB 10:31, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * It all boils down to "The Enemy of my Enemy Is My Friend". Stalin was the enemy of Hitler so he was our friend.  Marcos was the enemy of Ho Chi Mihn so he was our friend.  Even as recently as 1988, we forgave Saddam for almost sinking the USS Stark (kilt a friend I knew in CT-T "A" school) because he mistook it for an Iranian frigate. <div style="display:inline; display:inline-block; zoom:1; *display:inline; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-2px; position:relative; left:0px; top:0px; width:30px; height:10px; z-index:2;"><div style="display:block; width:30px; height:10px; line-height:10px; letter-spacing:30px; font-size:px; overflow:hidden; position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; z-index:3;">   [[Image:Xena symbol.png|Xena|text-bottom|30px]] 12:31, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * I seem to remember reading that the Iraqi government promised to "punish" the pilot. His "punishment" was a new car. To be fair, thr wikipedia article on the USS Stark does not refer that. It does say American officials said the pilot was executed, but an ex-Iraqi Air Force offices said he was not punished, and still alive at the time. MDB 13:42, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

TOR
Has Karajou any knowledge of the internet? In less than 24 hours, he made eight /16 blocks - all for an infinite duration. And can someone explain to him how TOR works? I suppose that most ISPs have users who provide TOR-nodes. 12:26, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Of course he doesn't, he's an ex-swabbie. We all know the skills they have:


 * :D -- 13:11, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Building height WIGO
Andy's just being an ass per usual, but his "no building is of equal height" statement can be true if you're looking at the 0.000001mm precision. <font color="#008080">tealish <font color="#FFBF00">??!!!1 13:34, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * That one was me, I just found it funny that in order to back his claim that languages can be ranked, something that can't be proven, he claims that no two buildings are ever the same height... Something that can proven false... In fact, until they fell, I believe the WTC towers were exactly the same height. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  14:25, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * GROWL. See, Andy has this problem with understanding that parts do not make a whole.  "a culture" made of years of interaction with others, made of religion, made of philosophy is the **same as** its language.  His argument about the tribal language of some tribe that has no written history and has no real "technological" accomplishments assumes that if the tribe is worse, the language is worse.  if the culture is not advanced, the language is not merely "unadvanced, technologically", but is itself *as a language* worse. How does he not understand this?-- 14:32, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Nay, they had a gap of 2m in height.
 * HOW GOOD SOMETHING IS IS OBJECTIVE LIKE THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS, STOOPID LIBRULS!!! <font color=#CC2200>Neveruse513 14:40, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * He has clearly never been in a former Warsaw Pact country where you can see the same hulking apartment block built over and over again for miles. Corryundefined 16:00, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Or a British housing estate full of hundreds of identical houses. Totnesmartin 16:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * It's not just Britain that has hundreds, nay thousands, of identical dwellings. Check out much of urban northern Europe and you will find mass produced houses and appartments albeit often with better quality build standards. <font color=Blue>Генгис    17:10, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * How long until we hear that the Empire State Building is better than the Sears Tower, Central Plaza, the Eiffel Tower, the Three Gorges Dam and the Kremlin? NightFlare 17:43, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

For those of you wondering why it is so absurd for Andy to claim that no two buildings are equal in height, see wp:How Long Is the Coast of Britain and wp:Pigeonhole Principle. Of course, the Pigeonhole Principle is traditionally proved non-constructively, so Andy may simply not believe it. Coarb 17:55, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Wikipedia lists a few buildings in the USA having the same height. Not only that, but with millions of homes, it would not be difficult to find two with precisely the same height; especially with many being premanufactured homes these days. --Irrational Atheist 22:16, 8 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Let me be explicit. Assume there are only 100 million buildings and that they are all shorter than 1km. If Andy has a magic tool that measures building height to tenths of a millimeter, there are still only 10 million possible building heights: 0 m, 0.0001m, .. 999.9999m. That means that two buildings must be the same height.
 * I think these numbers are conservative; I expect normal humans only measure building height to centimeters, I expect there are a billion buildings, and I think the tallest building is under 900 meters in height. In order to avoid collisions, we could relax one of these numbers, but we would have to do so dramatically:
 * Andy could measure building to micrometers, about the size of a bacterium
 * There could be only 90,000 buildings
 * The tallest building could be 10,000 km tall.

That is, assuming I got my arithmetic right. Coarb 04:50, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


 * A mathematician could model the height of a building be a real number. Assuming furthermore, that the theoretical distribution of heights is smooth, and that there is only a finite number of buildings on the earth, the probability of two buildings having exactly the same height would be zero, and any statement that building A and building B are equally tall would just be a result of the insufficient accuracy of measuring them.
 * However, in our physical world there are limits to the accuracy with which a measurement of a building can done. Just think about the influence of temperature, air pressure, humidity etc. So, for any realistic accuracy, you'll find buildings of the same height.
 * 05:13, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


 * And an afterthought: if you have to buildings, one of ~ 100.001 m, the other ~ 99.001 m - and you cool down the first and heat up the second - no mathematician will deny that there is a point in time when both buildings are exactly of the same height, as he'd take the shrinking and the enlarging processes to be smooth....
 * 05:18, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Surely the second law of thermodynamics denies such a possibility? :) Totnesmartin 05:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Always worth pointing out the occasional positive thing
We bitch and moan so much here about CP sometimes it just becomes this monotone. So it's good to now and again express some gratitude for even our favourite CP moron standing up for what's right, and trying his darndest to get the hateful xenophobic morons over there to just lay the fuck off the Obama Is a Muslim OMG thing. Well done Ed, and thanks. <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  15:11, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Short-lived kudos to Ed. <font color=#CC2200>Neveruse513 15:21, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Andy's response?  "Ed, you make a valid point, but for Godwin's Law activation, add words here.
 * Karajou also rewrote the BHO article and had it reverted by Andy. Andy is just bonkers. <font color=Blue>Генгис    16:29, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * So what if Obama is a Muslim or a Scientologist or worships dust bunnies. The US Constitution, Article VI, section 3 says, "...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States..." <div style="display:inline; display:inline-block; zoom:1; *display:inline; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-2px; position:relative; left:0px; top:0px; width:30px; height:10px; z-index:2;"><div style="display:block; width:30px; height:10px; line-height:10px; letter-spacing:30px; font-size:px; overflow:hidden; position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; z-index:3;">   [[Image:Xena symbol.png|Xena|text-bottom|30px]] 16:33, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah, but if Obama is a Secret Muslim, it means he lied about his religion! And do you know who also lied? Adolf Hitler! --Sid 16:59, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I never even looked at the CP article on Obama until just now, wow, that makes the Onion look like the Wall Street Journal online. Allegedly born in Hawaii. Mind control rays.   <div style="display:inline; display:inline-block; zoom:1; *display:inline; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-2px; position:relative; left:0px; top:0px; width:30px; height:10px; z-index:2;"><div style="display:block; width:30px; height:10px; line-height:10px; letter-spacing:30px; font-size:px; overflow:hidden; position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; z-index:3;">   [[Image:Xena symbol.png|Xena|text-bottom|30px]] 17:02, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Don't laugh at mind control rays. They are very real and they come from Hawaii [[Image:MindControlRay.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Actual Mind Control Ray from Hawaii. Funny how Obama denies training these creatures.]] --GTac 07:34, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Something that really cracked me up about Andy's reply was the last part of the first paragraph: "Do you think Obama told the truth when he campaigned as a Christian? I don't, and that raises valid questions about what the truth really is that Obama was lying about."
 * Yep, Andy Schlafly doubting Obama's religion claims raises valid questions about Obama's religion! Just wait until Andy doubts that evolution really happen-*phone rings* Mh? What was that? The beauty of fall leaves? Yeah, what about it? It what? Disproves evolution? Really? Huh! --Sid 17:04, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Andy doesn't believe Obama, and that raises valid questions about Obama's Christianity. That's all it takes to validly question the truth of something is to be skeptical?  I suppose that means anyone who believes every word that comes from Andy's lips has no validity to raise any questions.   <div style="display:inline; display:inline-block; zoom:1; *display:inline; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-2px; position:relative; left:0px; top:0px; width:30px; height:10px; z-index:2;"><div style="display:block; width:30px; height:10px; line-height:10px; letter-spacing:30px; font-size:px; overflow:hidden; position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; z-index:3;">   [[Image:Xena symbol.png|Xena|text-bottom|30px]] 17:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Its a bad idea to say anything good about Conservapedia, because TK will revert it. [[image:Dictator.gif]] -- 17:26, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh, you just know that Andy will never let go of the Obama article. I mean come on, head of the Harvard Law Review, successful teacher, successful lawyer, successful politican, well liked and with a nice, well-balanced and unnutty family, Obama has succeeded at everything that teh Assfly has failed at, and if that wasn't bad enough for teh Assfly, in his mind Obama managed to do that whilst being the wrong color and having a non-WASC name.199.20.64.195 17:40, 8 April 2009 (EST)
 * Obama hasn't got his own wiki. <font color=Blue>Генгис    01:53, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * No, just, you know, "us.gov". Cheap url, really. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  01:56, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * What really gets me is how Catholics go on about how Christian values built the US when one of the 'Intolerable acts' allowed Catholics to still practice in Quebec--Nate River 20:42, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I wonder what Christian values built the US. Maybe Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. <div style="display:inline; display:inline-block; zoom:1; *display:inline; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:-2px; position:relative; left:0px; top:0px; width:30px; height:10px; z-index:2;"><div style="display:block; width:30px; height:10px; line-height:10px; letter-spacing:30px; font-size:px; overflow:hidden; position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; z-index:3;">   [[Image:Xena symbol.png|Xena|text-bottom|30px]] 21:17, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I wonder why you give a shit so much as to quote chapter and verse to unmake your point? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  01:56, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I had this discussion in class just the other day... I loved watching the Christian guy squirm. He made the point u United States being based on Christian values and I pointed out all the things that the US have never put into effect (thank goat on some of them) he also didn't beleive the whole god directed stoning of the stick guy until someone looked it up. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  12:14, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

not bad, not bad at all...
07:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Now take out the talk page edits and see what's left... Totnesmartin 09:17, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Huh?
Why do I have the horrible feeling that in what passes for Andy's mind, he's equating working from home with home-schooling. Difficult to classify? Gosh - that's probably because life can't be divided into conservative/liberal, you freaking moron. --PsyGremlinWhut? 09:28, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I doubt it -- he lists telecommute under "words difficult to classify". The fact he lists it at all is odd, but I wouldn't read that much into it. MDB 09:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * OH DEAR GOD. The best part is he doesn't know how to use a dictionary.  he defines the origin of telecommute as "tele" + "commuter" (which is not the root, but ok)... then goes on to suggest that commute means "to exchange", which is the *first* definition in his beloved Miriam Webster, but only when it's got an object.  the intransitive verb means "to travel to a job".  god help me. -- 13:36, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Gary Numan: "We went to work by proxy." <font style="background: #880000" face="verdana">  Mega   21:02, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

Bush bowed too WIGO
I think this one is a little overblown...

http://imagesource.cnn.com/imagesource/player.swf?streamer=rtmp://isfms.cnn.com/vod&file=mp4:895/05281895&type=video&controlbar=none&autostart=true&width=480&height=324

Equating the lowering your head so that someone can place a necklace on you with a full, formal bow is a stretch. <font color=#CC2200>Neveruse513 13:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Obviously that is what comes of trusting some of the yarns they spin in the public houses about here... 13:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Calling accepting a medal a "bow" is a stretch, but Bush did hold hands with Prince Abdullah. MDB 14:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Don't judge their love! --Kels 15:06, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Kels, that's the funniest thing I've read all day. Corryundefined 18:39, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Sometimes I swear Obama is just fucking with über-conservatives. <font color=#CC2200>Neveruse513 14:04, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Obama as liberal troll. I like it. Totnesmartin 14:52, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I disagree.... It was still a bow, Both men are about the same height, he didn't have to "lower his head." <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  15:20, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Congrats...you're just as bad as them. <font color=#CC2200>Neveruse513 16:14, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm assuming you mean me... My point isn't OMG Bush is a traitor.... I'm merely trying to point out that Obama didn't do anything new or unique and people should stick to major issues. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  16:25, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Watch closely how this works. I suppose the next time you receive a medal you'd rather it smack you in the face than show weakness by submitting to the guy giving it to you.


 * I'm merely trying to point out that Bush didn't bow as you claim he did. If you want to equate any downward motion of the head with a bow, you are free to do so, but it is a specious argument. And yes, of course none of this matters. Oh noes...Obama tryd 2 sho sum respekt!!! <font color=#CC2200>Neveruse513 16:36, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Given that President Adams also did some bowing, I have replaced the link to the Bush picture with a link to the entry on Little Green Footballs. 16:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

EdStub time!
My evening is complete. Now I go drinking, or participate in a fertility rite. (If there is a gOD, he'll liveblog this one for us, too) --PsyGremlinWhut? 14:22, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Well, at least it's encyclopedic.  <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  14:23, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The word-count of the original stub was obviously too low for his liking, so he has added some redundant phrasing. 14:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * That's a considerable increase in the amount of information in that article, so clearly the article is evolving.  <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  14:29, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I never thought I'd see an article about that episode that failed to mentionits central character, although, true Ed style, yeoman Rand gets a mention. Obvious much Ed? Totnesmartin 14:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * He's topped himself <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  14:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Good heavens, he's liveblogging a 43-year-old rerun! --Kels 15:05, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * EDPOOR LIVE BLOG!!!!! Get your popcorn and enjoy... <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  15:07, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * the phrase "Captain Kirk beams aboard a pimp" creates a rather horrifying mental image. Totnesmartin 15:10, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I was much more disturbed by Ed's "three stupendously seductive women." I need a brain scrubber <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  15:18, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I look forward to the article on attempted rape --Runderful
 * I don't look forward to a certain episode with a title Ed might like. Totnesmartin 15:29, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

OK, so who is going to figure out which episode is next on the DVD, or on the marathon on Ed's cable channel? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  15:34, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I love how his physics side is offended by the plausable "spiraling" of a plane in orbit... but isn't offended that a beam of "something" could take you apart, send you somewhere else, and reconstitute you (unless of course it breaks, and you are split in to). -- 15:53, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Yes, but, you see, the more implausible something is, the less objection Ed has to it, which is obviously why he is currently engaged in Moon-worship. 16:25, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I was teleporting home one day
 * With Ron and Sid and Meg
 * Ron stole Meggie's heart away
 * And I got Sidney's leg --Kels 16:29, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Moar Ed. Surely somebody who follows some weird eastern cult would know that spirits and ghosts are two different things. Idiot. --PsyGremlinWhut? 00:49, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The animation snob in me wants Ed strung up high for daring to sully any aspect of Miyazaki's work with his filthy presence. Although I do, despite the film being a masterpiece in its field, prefer Whisper of the Heart.  It speaks to me more directly. --Kels 00:53, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Coincidence, Ms Kels? 09:19, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Actually, that's not a bad article. Note that Ed has kept his filthy pedopaws off of it thus far.  didn't realize it was out on DVD in North America though, I'll have to look that up.  I've got a birthday coming up (Wednesday!!!), so maybe I'll treat myself.  --Kels 13:37, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

<--- Maybe my physics is getting a bit rusty but surely a spacecraft could follow a spiral trajectory as it lost height? Unless Ed's confusing spiral with helix (as most people do with a "spiral staircase"). <font color=Blue>Генгис   15:17, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * A spiral trajectory implies constant deceleration (as from atmospheric drag or retrorocket fire). In a vacuum, an spacecraft will follow an ellipse and retrace its path.  <font style="background: #880000" face="verdana">  Mega   20:56, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

Another wonderful day at CP
We have enough of these on WIGO, so I didn't wanna put it there.... But it's Denver, so it's close to my heart.... I give you, CP in a nutshell: A guy signs up, points out the Bush bowed too thing from Little Green Footballs. After a few normal debate discussion, TK comes blustering in and in the process accuses LFG of having Obama Idol-worship (Snort). Other guy responds politely and TK snaps. He makes a badly formatted reponse claiming sock and proxy Guy responds politely again and Boom goes the dynamite and just to add some good conservative deceit, TK shuffles that last response under the rug. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  15:15, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm hesitant to accuse anyone on CP of being a parodist, I wasn't even sure about Bugler, despite how obvious he was. But man, even without knowing TK's past, it's obvious that he's a parodist.  Or if not a parodist, an anarchist who wants to destroy everything they believe in, moreso than any parodist does. -Lardashe
 * Definitely anarchist. Actually, he doesn't deserve the title. Rather, I'd just call him a chaos maker. -- 15:42, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Anarchist? He's a nihilist! Totnesmartin 17:16, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Little green footballs? (and by the way, bush didn't bow.  he was getting a medal.)-- 15:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Little Green Footballs is an American conservative website/blog. The meaning of the name is known only to the guy who runs the site. MDB 16:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Sounds like a sexually-transmitted disease to me. DSFARGEG 18:41, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Did TK bother to fix his "16th century" gaffe yet? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  17:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Also, I wouldn't call that a "bow". I'd call what came after "a big hug and two manly smoochies" though. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  17:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * In my neck of the woods we'd just call TK a shit-stirrer. <font color=Blue>Генгис    15:20, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Star Trek
Seriously, what's with all this Ed writing Star Trek articles? They're one sentence stubs. Doesn't he have anything better to do? Like blocking users for pointing out math mistakes? --Coyote 16:54, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * He's an idiot. Of course they are. No. No. -- 16:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh. --Coyote 17:50, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * A closet Trekkie? 142.59.186.233 18:17, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Star Trek is liberal, don't forget that. -- 18:19, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Didn't Kirk have the enterprise kill God in one of the films? DSFARGEG 18:23, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * One more reason it's liberal. . . -- 18:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Let's not forget the first interracial kiss, Spock was born of an inter species marriage and in one episode they said Nazism (which the right tries to call leftist) had it's good points.--Nate River 23:02, 9 April 2009 (EDT)(Kirk fan and closet trekkie)
 * Ed fails at Trek. I could write better articles in my sleep. --Judge King 16:21, 10, April 2009 (ChTD)
 * Gene Roddenberry was a self-proclaimed humanist and agnostic. Not once when the Enterprise was under attack did anyone ever suggest praying. <font color=Blue>Генгис    15:23, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Poor old Jinx
"... I've been looking into Charles Johnson's posts about Obama and against conservatives, but he's gone and blocked me from the entire site. Jinxmchue" How very unchristian! !!! 22:01, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Poor old Jinx? Hahahahahaha TK has fucking blocked him for being an RW member! Hahahaha check cp recent changes. Haven't linked because I am hungover and fucked off with Jesus. Ace McWickedbitch and moan 22:20, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Delicious. --<font color="#99CCFF">Arcan  ¡ollǝɥ  22:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


 * I believe that I can take credit for that. See here. User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 22:25, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Oh that's just brilliant, brilliant.  Difficult playing surface on that galleywhoop, eh Jinx?   <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  22:30, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * But note: "Jinxmchue ‎(Block, edit, Siteadmin, Upload)" 22:35, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Dude.... even nuked his user page... Sure you don't wanna rethink those rights Andy? <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  22:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Whose, the liberal vandal site members, or his baby, TK? User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 22:52, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Seriously (Good work Emperor BTW), does TK never check things before acting. Silly question - retracted. 22:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Countdown to Schukky in 3... 2... 1... User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 22:58, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Jinx unblocked himself. RANGE BLOCK TK, RANGE BLOCK!!! He is a member of RW, HE MUST BE PUNISHED! Ace McWickedbitch and moan 22:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Does TK have a red telephone to teh fly, so he can get Jinx's rights revoked? User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 23:03, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * It seems da Jinxie has a hot line <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  23:08, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Burn. --<font color="#99CCFF">Arcan  ¡ollǝɥ  23:09, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

AH SHIT SON, IT'S ON NOW!!!!
 * Thee Epic Fail. Nutty Roux 23:15, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * This is hysterical. There's no-one more in tune with teh Assfly than jinx. Fun, fun, fun.
 * Hahaha epic. Wheres Human? He would enjoy this. Ace McWickedbitch and moan 23:18, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * What, did we blow something up? '''[[user:human|<font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans

ms"> ħ uman ]]''' 23:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ah yes there you are my friend. I knew you couldnt be far. No, nothing blown up however I am nursing a hangover (and nursing a whisky laced coffee) and some stupid bitch last night asked to see my penis in front of my girlfriend before fucking with my I-Pod and demanding I play Walk of Life by Dire Straits instead leaving me alone with The Clash which everyone seemed to enjoy. Ace McWickedbitch and moan 23:30, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * oh, sorry about that Ace. after that "big" comment you made last night, I just wanted to see for myself... <font color="#000066">Refugee <font color = "#00F0A20">talk page 01:52, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Anyone who like Dire Straits needs to be burned alive, then drowned, shot, hung, drawn, quartered and finally BANNED.   <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  23:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Hey now DogP, a little Sultans of Swing now and again hurt no one. However, Walk of Life? Nope. Ace McWickedbitch and moan 23:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Sounds about par for the course. I will be burning shit to hell this weekend while drinking to excess.  Sadly, I have no girlfriend whose friend to expose myself to, but I'm still Working for the Clampdown.  <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  23:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * We should hang out. I'll teach you bourbon whiskey and the Carter Family. Cure-alls.  <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish  you are eat fartz 23:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I Learnded boourbon in Misery, USA. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  23:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * (ec) Could prove interesting. Jinx is the genuine article and has never wronged Andy.  This should test the strength of Wormtongue's influence.  --<font color="#99CCFF">Arcan   ¡ollǝɥ  23:20, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh how we smirked.  I haven't had so much fun since I went on my nationwide headhunting spree.   Teabun moves into the closing battles of his campaign.   Jinx is getting more practice at unblocking himself.   <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  23:21, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Loser cries to Mommy.  <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  23:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Mommy smacks loser 23:56, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ok this maybe my drunkenness talking but I must say I love TK now. With this he passes bulger (sp since firefox is complaining) as the best Poe at CP.--BoredCPer 23:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Andy suspends Jinx's rights, pending "investigation". Coarb 00:03, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Plus plus plus vote, plus up green arrow twelveteen times! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  00:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh man, this and an EdLiveBlog - I knew going to sleep last night was a bad idea.--PsyGremlinWhut? 00:38, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * You've got to admit, it's nice of TK to amuse us like this. Very considerate of him. I'm tempted to take back some of the nasty things I've said about him! 00:50, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I dunno about that.  I was trying to watch Barcelona kick seven shades of shite out of Bayern Munich at the same time.   TK could have timed it better as far as I was concerned.   <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  00:56, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Feetboll? Ugh! 01:00, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Toast, for once, please shut up. Yah, it's only feetbol.  But it ain't YEC, is it?  It's just some girls kicking balls between each others' leg, with skill, one hopes. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  01:12, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * "girls kicking balls between each others' legs" - a-hah, that'll be the steroid abuse we keep hearing about. --PsyGremlinWhut? 01:16, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

(unindent) This is amazing and epic. Your powers for evil are truly praiseworthy, Theemperor. I wish I hadn't slept all day and come late to this. Naturally "Pending inquiry" means Andy will do squat about it, and Teak the Knife will permaban him. Oh the shark has pretty teeth, dear, and he shows them pearly whites... -- 01:57, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I really don't understand this. Could someone please explain it for the dimwitted? Is the basic idea that Theemperor prestended to be using IP 67.135.49.112 and TK banned it? I mean surely anyone would realise that 67.135.49.112 is not a genuine address?? If this is the case this really confirms it for me that TK is certainly a parodist and has panned Jinx for fun - at the first excuse. No-one with even the faintest grasp of IP addressing would think 67.135.49.112 was real! Help! Explain! I'm confused! StarFish 07:21, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * What is there to explain? 67.135.49.112 is the proxy that RationalWiki user Jinxmchue used when he parodied Conservapedia. He made quite a lot of fundamental mistake; same account here as at CP, forgot to change his IP when he edited here, forgot to sign in. But what he did well was run a few fake blogs that made him look like he was a genuine conservative, which convinced Andy enough to give him block rights. However now TK is back and reading us every five minutes he was caught out for being a parodist. Bad luck, but I am sure he will do better next time. - User   07:52, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Gentleman PI. I suspect your answer is at least partly a smoke screen for watching eyes. The bit that needs explaining is how he could have an IP address of 67.135.49.112. As you well know a single octet cannot be greater than 255. The more I read this the more I think I've missed something obvious - that's the bit that needs explaining. Yes I admit I am a bit slow. I was 8 before I could take the stabelizers of my bike. Don't point and laugh. Just explain where I've gone wrong. In simple words. With pictures. StarFish 07:58, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * First, we KNOW that's a real IP address- when you click on it when it's a signature, you are taken to contributions. Second, Jinx most certainly is a conservative. He's not a parodist. If he was, he'd announce it here as soon as he was outed. Third, there is not RW user named Jinxmchue. -- 13:13, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * CUR could you not shove you comments in between two that are already there, without doing a deeper indent? Also who has been editing the comments, it use to say 67.135.49.4** I can't remember the rest of the number? All the comments look stupid now as the discussion was about an incorrect number. - User   05:32, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * It was Theemperor, here: . He probably had good intentions, but it does make the above discussion quite confusing. Dreaded Walrus 10:11, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Where did you get that IP from? - User   08:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * It's irrelevant anyway, Jinx wrote on Ace's talkpage, whining about being blocked, but used his RW username, then went back and changed to an IP. Either way, it wasn't like TK needed much of an excuse to kick off another long time CP editor (and friend of Andy, who repaid that in spades) --PsyGremlinWhut? 08:11, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Hey! I like Walk of Life! -Lardashe

It's all over folks, move along now, move along, nothing to see here. Have you no homes to go to? <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  11:13, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * It's not quite all over, though is it? I see a lack of banhammer in the User Rights Log. How long will it take for Aschlafly to conclude his investigation? Bondurant 11:53, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I like the way 's block-first-ask-never policy is suddenly our fault. And whatever happened to freedom of association? We wait for TK's humble apology and Andy's too, following restoration of rights. (hint: holding your breath = not a good idea) --PsyGremlinWhut? 12:09, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I always loved how TK managed to change the rules in front of everybody. We don't block people based on ideology or what they say on other sites like Wikipedia.... But suddenly RW is a known vandal site and anybody who has an account is blocked because they're now a vandal, even if there is no vandal activity whatsoever.... Amazing.  The pigs are changing the commandments at night and none of the other animals seem to notice. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  12:23, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * There are no other animals left--just the Pigs.--WJThomas 13:02, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Excellent. Everything is proceeding exactly according to plan.  User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 13:21, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Still no user rights for Jinx 2½ days and counting) 06:20, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Andy giveth and Andy taketh away. has burnt his bridges by admitting he has an account here, he won't get his rights back any time soon, leaving him vulnerable to TK's whims. --PsyGremlinWhut? 06:28, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

Conservative
Is he going more insane than normal? First the stuff in WIGO, which has been added to a few more pages, now he seems to think there's an admin called BigWhammy ... RyanC 23:47, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Hey jerk, does "add new section" not read in English for you? Do you no instructions clue read? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  00:07, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Interesting. Bigwhammy registered less than an hour earlier, but doesn't have any rights yet though. Sock of 🇰🇪? Dreaded Walrus 00:02, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * 's on a roll - just banhammered Bigwhammy. --PsyGremlinWhut? 02:46, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ken either doesn't understand the real-name rule, or he simply shows how it really works: He unblocks Bigwhammy with the summary "I can personally vouch for this person. please keep person unblocked. Not a vandal". Guess it'll be another case like Robert Turkel and Freedom777. --Sid 07:24, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * And Ruylopez. <font color=Blue>Генгис    15:36, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * What does TK do other than abuse checkuser and block people? 16:44, 10 April 2009 TK (Talk | contribs) blocked Bigwhammy (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 5 years (autoblock disabled) ‎ (Inappropriate or vulgar name: Please recreate your account with your real first name and last initial)   <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish  you are eat fartz 16:54, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * He also copies stuff from other sites in an attempt to make it look as though he does make substantive contributions. But you're right, he just throws his weight around and has to be the biggest noise in the room. I think that really he a sad and lonely old man with only his mum for company. <font color=Blue>Генгис    17:00, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Wow.... first and now 🇰🇪.   seems to be getting a little too big for his britches.  Are we about to see other banning?  I doubt it, the Assfly has already come out of his isolation once this month to make a decision, he ain't about to do it again. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  17:08, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Building height WIGO, redux
So, all you illogical liberals who dispute Andy's claim that no buildings are of equal height, I'm calling you out. You know what? Never mind two, I bet you can't even name one building that's of equal height! --Marty 03:57, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * {pedant moment} well of course not. If we're talking about one building, there's nothing to compare it too. --PsyGremlinWhut? 04:12, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * --joke--->
 * ........Psygremlin.......
 * My favorite part about that stuff is that Andy equates "you can't really claim X is better than Y" to "EVERYTHING IS EQUAL!". If they were discussing cars, it could've been something like:
 * Andy: The Nascar car is the best car
 * LIBRUL: Well, that really depends on what the track is like. For off-road races for example, rally cars are much better.
 * Andy: Ha! You libruls would like to believe that all cars are equal!
 * LIBRUL: What?
 * It's so much like evolution though. Each language evolved to suit it's niche (the society where it's used) the best, and it's nonsense to try to compare languages without niches.. Like the creationists think that evolution means that some species are better than others, without taking in account in what niche that creature evolved. --GTac 04:50, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * In my defence... I'm sorry, I have a cold. --PsyGremlinWhut? 05:25, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

I guess Andy means that if you measure to the nanometer, no buildings are equal in height, which naturally is true, and also buildings probably differ in height from heat extension from day to day depending on weather. But that isn't a useful usage of either the concepts "height" or "equal". <font weight="normal" color="red">Etc 12:14, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I think this is a classic example of the Schlafly Overreach. Although his original point is realy realy.... really stupid, his argument is somewhat effective.  He said: Indeed, not only is it implausible for all languages to be equal, but such equality is impossible. It is as impossible as claiming that all buildings are of equal height.  In fact, none are" I think that A, this is a great example of Andy's inability to see things as equal, one is always better (which explains his racism, sexism, religion discrimination and about a zillion other issues) and B, he overreaches.  His argument was made and was decent, but he had to keep going.  And of course, now that it's been said, he has to stand by it, for that is the will of the Schlafly.  <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  12:50, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * When I think about it, I realize it's very close to the core of the concept of being narrow-minded; Andy thinks there is always a "right way" to do things - speak English, lower taxes, carry guns etc. He lacks the ability to see that some things are both good and bad, depending on context. Which is why different cultures, identities, and social classes exist, and the world is not filled with clones. <font weight="normal" color="red">Etc 15:35, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Of course that's the way he thinks. That's why he's been bashing "moral relativism" all these years. However, he conveniently ignores that POV if so that when a conservative does 'something bad' it's OK but not if a liberal does it. <font color=Blue>Генгис    15:43, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * you forget Genghis, part of being a conservative is NEVER doing anything wrong, anyone who does something can't be a conservative, they must be a liberal. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  15:53, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Nah, didn't forget. It was really part of my point but I'm bloody knackered at the moment and probably didn't express the point well. <font color=Blue>Генгис    16:55, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Hoc volo, sic jubeo, sit pro ratione voluntas. --Andrew Schlafly 06:46, 13 April 2009 (CDT)

TK and Checkuser
Ok, Does TK really think that any tech-op person worth their parking space is going to waste time trying to track down people who have the nerve to vandalize CP or is he just being creepy and trying to intimidate people. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  16:26, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * It's a little different if they report it to an employer; that has potential real-world consequences. But reporting to an ISP does nothing; I'd vote for an attempt to intimidate and harrass.   16:43, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ooh, he went for the finland duck rule!. User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 17:02, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The phone number listed there is the school district itself, not an ISP. If TK actually made the call, it's more than intimidation - it's an attempt to fuck with this person's life, and potentially his job.  In any event, TK's way too big a pussy to reach outside the friendly confines of his little cozy CP world to contact the school district.  So at the end of the day I don't think he's actually trying to do anything more than puff his chest and bluster because it makes a little dick weasel like him feel better about himself, and goat knows he hates himself more than any of us could.  <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish  you are eat fartz 17:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Okay people, own up. Was it anyone here? User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 17:09, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * (EC)I don't know how that district is set up, but if it's anything like ours, he can't do much. At our district, every computer in a building shares the same IP address.  The only way to determine exactly what computer went where, they would have to do a building wide search of each computer and even then, they can't prove who was using the computer at that particular time.... Most likely it would get shuffled to the IT department and he could considered himself lucky if he didn't get laughed at and hung up on. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  17:12, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Same at my work. Luckily, I haven't done anything on the single IP that I have, so it's clean.  User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 17:15, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I don't know, my brother in law works in IT, and he's a dick on the phone whenever he can be. You don't want to mess too much with IT people, they can really fuck shit up, not like TK in his fantasy world.   17:18, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Note: I rearranged the last two posts for ease of reading. I don't get what you mean Zero... I agree that IT people can be dicks, but they usually aren't gonna interrupt their real work for this kind of crap. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  17:26, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * My own example was from my experiences only, but my BIL wouldn't track down some user on his network, no, that would interrupt his real work. He would however mess up someone on his own time from home who wasted his time the way TK would.   18:04, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Maybe I should go wandalise. My IP block has me listed as the tech contact. I'd love TK to phone me up, then I could troll him in another media. I could tell him that I'd fired the person responsible, and that we were pursuing criminal charges and see if I can get him to post it on CP's front page. -- 17:31, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ten thousand Goats and a Penguin Promotion if you pull that off. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  17:39, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Know this - TK does make phone calls to fuck with people. Take it from me, (an anonymous bunch of numbers running off a proxy) he has done this in the past, and there are at least 3 RW members that do not edit here any longer due to TK fucking with them in real life. 193.200.150.137 18:08, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Two possibilities


 * 1) You are TK, and are trying to scare us, and you won't follow through if we do.
 * 2) You are TK, but decided to warn us, and will actually do it.

User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 18:13, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * option #3 - I am a former HotorNot moderator who has had dealings with TK in the past and I drop into RW from time to time to check up on the fucker and drop a few words of caution your way. But if you want to think I'm TK, why not? Whatever floats your boat and feeds the drama. 193.200.150.137 18:18, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Fine, take as axiom that you are not TK. Can you name the 3 people that TK fucked with?  I'm 95% certain that you cannot.  User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 18:21, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Therefore there is a mere 5% chance you're not an atheist liberal masquerading through deceit as one of TK's "victims." <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish  Talk 18:29, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * I'm amazed how assquote is sooooooooo like Andy... or even better. --Kangaxx 20:12, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

And so TK wanders further into Fourth Reich territory, hardly a surprise given that Andy seems desperate to create his own Mein Kampf inside CP, what with his insistence on the superiority of one language over others (presumabely English), the natural and undeniable place German composers have at the top of the list of all-time best composers, and the 'undeniable truth' of his (Andy's) political and moral views and the necessity to impose these on the world. Seems to me that Andy's version of CP has gotten a lot darker recently, and it makes me wonder what he will come up with next, although it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't start hinting at the necessity of pogroms against homosexuals, Muslims, or any other group he has decided to hate. Sorry if that seems a little cynical to the few optimists here that are still clinging on to the positive world view, but&hellip;199.20.64.195 20:51, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Wow! TK came here.  I can't believe he gives out his real name.  Is he trying to get on The Factor or something?  I have so many questions for him, I don't know where to start.  Can you give us your take on pants?  Teabag 02:47, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * TK was quoted in a newspaper article about CP under his real name. I'm not sure that he 'gave it out'. Silver Sloth 03:04, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * By revealing his real name in the public domain, he (like Ed and Andy) are fair game, it wouldn't be right for us to reveal JPatt's name, for example, if he hadn't already done so. He occasionally asks somebody here to delete references (the last being a classic TK move - straight after blocking SpinyNorman on CP until hELL freezes over, he had the gall to e-mail SN with just such a request). Of course, the skunk is too cowardly to come over here and do it himself (even as a BON), because then - gasp - he would be a member of a vandal site and would have to block himself. Simply put, he identified himself, therefore we can use his name, within reason. He's a sad, lonely bully and frankly I don't give a shit for his feelings. Notice how, despite humiliating Jinx publicly with his block, there's been no public apology, or even a reply on his talk page? Did we expect anything less from the boorish troll Terry is? --PsyGremlinWhut? 09:12, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

bots
Two questions. 1. are there any readily available clickbot programs or plugins for Firefox. 2. are there any readily available wiki bot programs for doing bulk edits along the lines of the user that was "turned in to the FBI" ? I would like to be turned in to the FBI please. <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish Talk 18:53, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Just a thought - by posting that telephone number hasn't TK a) broken CP's privacy policy and b) somehow violated the rights of the person whose number he listed? Any way to get his creepiness to backfire on him? P.S. I will be up all night - never watch Korean horror movies alone. --PsyGremlinWhut? 19:03, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * If you are scared, try buying largly defensive weapon of gun. User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 19:16, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * That number seems to ring to the school district's switchboard, but that may only be because today is a school holiday. I'll try it again on Monday and see if TK actually got through to the IT tech.  I don't see any good way to get this to blow up for TK any more than it already reflects that he's a creepy dick.  <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish  Talk 19:08, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * IANAL, but this is interesting. It applies mostly to the EU, but it's still an interesting thought, especially with this. Even if it's not illegal, it's certainly a dickish thing to do, as has been pointed out here before. Dreaded Walrus 19:32, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

"If TK actually made the call, it's more than intimidation - it's an attempt to fuck with this person's life, and potentially his job. In any event, TK's way too big a pussy to reach outside the friendly confines of his little cozy CP world to contact the school district." - Nuttish, TK did actually call PalMD at work. He also contacted someone at Trent's university. However, PalMD isn't around because he's busy with his blog and life, and of course Trent houses the server in a potted plant next to his desk. So, anyway, TK does do asinine things like call people to harass them IRL. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  20:29, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * That's actually kinda pathetic. I know you're reading this TK. You're a coward and a dumbass. What now? ENorman 20:39, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Be careful! You'll have the FBI after you! Dreaded Walrus 21:46, 10 April 2009 (EDT)


 * ENorman, I believe that the correct wording is "What now, biatch. Huh?  Huh?(get in face)"  User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 21:49, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Was "faggot" supposed to be an "insult"? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  22:12, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * No. Just wanted to get his attention. So far nothing. (He's e-mailed me before, and gmail saves all contacts) ENorman 22:18, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Made the comment less generally offensive ENorman 23:23, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Thanks, we all slip at times and use the vernacular we are assaulted with daily... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  00:09, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

I'd love to know what one of these conversations sounded like. "Hello?" "I AM TK. FROM THE INTERNET.  ATHEISTDAN222 HAS BEEN FASCIST LIBERAL VANDALIZING CONSERVAPEDIA.  FIRE HIM LEST WE SET THE FBI ON YOU. I AM A SENIOR ADMINISTRATOR, WITH MANY CLOUTS." 03:57, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Actually, I suspect the person listed is just the contact person as probably the IT person self-administers a network and is responsible for its own IP addresses. The stupid thing is that students across our fine earth wandalize wikipedia everyday, and maybe get a block, but almost never a phone call.  This is pure intimidation.  Sterilewalkie-talkie 08:24, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * But what you're forgetting that WP is just a bunch of liberal scum that deserves to be burnt at the stake vandalised, whereas CP is on an ordained mission from gOD, with his anointed henchman. Thus, it's not just vandalism, but heresy that's being committed. They're lucky TK doesn't phone the Pope to complain. --PsyGremlinWhut? 08:58, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The Vatican actually consulted Terry when they were setting up their web-site. I undertsand he gave them a lot of useful advice, so he does have back door access to Ben (as I believe he now likes to be called - thanks for that insight TK). <font color=Blue>Генгис    09:37, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * TK just talked to us, in this thread! Seriosly TK, I need to know your opinion on pants.  Thank you. Teabag 09:59, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * One thing you need to realize is that for TK, this is real life . This is as real as his life gets. Everything in his life is fake, from his instant coffee to the fake plastic trees in his ramshackle office on the car lot. <font color=#CC2200>Neveruse513 11:55, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

Very minor amusing incident
Bert just uploaded: 1523ADCAUA895GCAJ3NFZKCAWWQZ2RCA1NC24OCA4BG0EPCAZ0EMZQCA1N678KCAP1K28YCAHTCR5LCAPF4TZMCA1OPFBQCAFF1C50CAEZ0DSLCAQ9AX3NCAH2JUQWCAQKRRBACACD2C0YCACTPC31CASOHYPS.jpg‎ It's a pretty of an aeroplane. Somebody tell him he can use a different title. Please! 10:21, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

He tried to upload it under  1523ADCAUA895GCAJ3NFZKCAWWQZ2RCA1NC24OCA4BG0EPCAZ0EMZQCA1N678KCAP1K28YCAHTCR5LCAPF4TZMCA1OPFBQCAFF1C50CAEZ0DSLCAQ9AX3NCAH2JUQWCAQKRRBACACD2C0YCACTPC31CASOHYP   R   .jpg  , but the filename was already taken. Dreaded Walrus 10:28, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * I believe that the filename takes almost as many bytes as the image itself. <font color=Blue>Генгис    13:10, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Although I don't immediately recognise the form, the filename is almost certainly the result of applying some sort of hash to the image. That's the sort of thing which random websites which let people upload images do in order to ensure that each uploaded image gets a unique name. That doesn't explain why Bert didn't rename it, but there is a reason why it had that in the first place at least.. alt 14:33, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Why are none of these incompetents capable of renaming their images before they upload them? If you steal an image from t'internet, the least you could do is give it a short and meaningful name for wiki purposes. Kendoll is an arch offender too. JM tends to do a little better. -- 16:57, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * A quick browse through their image gallery shows that their naming conventions are a mess. 0-picture.jpg is hardly a descriptive name. *facepalm* <font color=Blue>Генгис    03:53, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * TK lurves RW. 05:03, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I'd like to think that if that was one of us, we would have taken 2 seconds to copy and re-upload the pic for Bert with a new file name. Of course, TK's route is "You bad! You do again!" Clearly, and this applies especially to Andy, "nurture" is not a conservative word. --PsyGremlinWhut? 05:13, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Unfortunately (& I can't prove it now) I don't think Bert had given his source. sloppy!! 05:27, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

New words
We've got some new conservative words, with my favorite being originalism. I've heard this argument before, and will never understand it; they constitution should only be interprited as the founding fathers intended, usually meaning MOAR GUN! But the thing the conservative wackos forget is that the founding fathers realized there might be circumstances they didn't foresee, and included INSTRUCTIONS FOR CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION, IN THE CONSITUTION!!!11. It must be all the biblical literalism. Oh, and for bonus lulz, look at Andy's definition of bipartisan. 10:38, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Andy's def of bipartisan; it's this kind of material that makes me think Andy and all of CP is parody. --Simple 11:34, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * You know, if the CP gang weren't so anti-evolution, I wouldn't have been surprised to see Andy say conservatives and liberals are branching off into different species, with the former being the clearly more evolved while the latter are devolving. Andy's true religion happens to be hilariously petty partisan politics, not Christianity. Photovoltaic Array 12:05, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Five goats and the internet for the first person to say that conservatives and liberals are evolving/devolving on CP. EddyP 12:11, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * From the OED: Hence globalism, internationalism; globali{sm}zation, the act of globalizing; globalize v. trans., to render global; so globalized ppl. adj. 1959 Economist 4 Apr. 65/1 Italy's ‘globalised quota’ for imports of cars has been increased. 1961 WEBSTER, Globalism... Globalization. 1962 Spectator 5 Oct. 495 Globalisation is, indeed, a staggering concept. 1962 Sunday Times 28 Jan. 12/2 Our own comparatively timid intentions towards globalising the Common Market. 1965 Economist 23 Jan. 316/1 Between globalism and isolationism there is extensive middle ground.
 * Wrong again, Andrew Layton Schlafly. TheoryOfPractice 12:29, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * TheoryofPractice, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong .  My Mommy done maded it up, and I'm gonna tell my big brother on you, you, you, bad, bad person you.   Aschlafly.
 * I heard about your big brother... That's dirty. TheoryOfPractice 12:35, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

RobertT
Stubs are what Ed does, you idiot. You don't need two Eds on a single wiki, the universe might implode from teh stupid. 13:22, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Clearly a parodist - they're all copied-pasted, and he's picked up the lingo (parodist, etc.) very quickly. EddyP 13:28, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * At least I hope so; I'd hate to think there really are two people that stupid out there.  13:30, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

Minor range block luzl is very minor
I don't understand it. If I did understand it, would it be funny? Bondurant 14:23, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Mostly TK torching entire regions in order to stop 1-2 people. ENorman 14:35, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Except he did it wrong. The range block doesn't cover the one IP address it was meant to take out. alt 14:39, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * You're welcome, TK. That "redo more specific" comment probably counts as liberal deceit by the way, given that 174.0.0.0/16 doesn't include 174.6.108.0/22. I'd have thought you'd have learnt how to rangeblock properly by now. alt 17:25, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Very good Grasshopper, yes T eam K iller fuxup the relatively simple task of range blocking...perhaps he is trying to see if he will eventually be able to sneak an /8 by the wiki software? (Just think! 16,581,375 IPs foreva banninated from CP, teh GLORY!) CЯacke ® 19:06, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Is there an extension that one could write enabling /8 blocks, or is it hardwired into the software? User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 19:08, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Probably no extension, but that doesn't mean you can't hack the core. --  Nx / talk 19:12, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * In my (quite out-of-date) mediawiki version, includes/SpecialBlockip.php is the place to look. Easy to change if one has access to that sort of thing:

if ( $matches[2] > 31 || $matches[2] < 16 ) { $this->showForm( wfMsg( 'ip_range_invalid' ) ); return; }


 * alt 19:20, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Alright, write it up and post it on TK's talk page with instructions on how to use, and all teh internets will be blocked by the end of the week. User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 20:16, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Sadly doing this kind of thing requires root (or sufficiently elevated) privileges on the server, and I'd be surprised if the list of such people extended very far at all beyond Andy - I'd guess CPAdmin1 probably had access back in the day, but not any more. It'd be easier to engage in social engineering - become the next Bugler or whatever and persuade Andy that you had a liberal-detecting modification to mediawiki and give him some carefully-crafted php. (all speaking hypothetically, you understand) alt 20:46, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * CPWebmater/PhilipB is the person who does the tech work, I don't think Andy actually knows how to do it. He is a sysop here and I think a lot cluier then to fall for a trick like that. - User   05:24, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Trick? What trick? Just trying to help TK's rangeblock quest. I wonder if it'd let you block 0.0.0.0/0? alt 08:26, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

Mooning Andy
Somebody should ask the ol' doof about total versus annular eclipses. The latter is better known in Andy's world as a liberal eclipse, no doubt.--WJThomas 14:48, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Actually, he did have something of a point. Saying that the size "varies considerably" is an exaggeration.

"Varies slightly, making some eclipses total while others are annular" would be better. Also, it varies according to its distance from the Earth, not the Earth's distance from the Sun. But its apparent size during an eclipse varies over the year. It's a more subtle point than ought to be made. However, if you are operating in a regime in which the size constancy of the Moon and the Sun are invoked for purposes of religious fundamentalism, none of the "science" stuff matters. Gauss 19:15, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * This is from the guy who told you no 2 buildings have the same height. NightFlare 19:47, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I wonder if Andy watched this and took it at face value? <font color=Blue>Генгис    13:14, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

RJ welcomes HappyPerson
RJJensen rolls out the red carpet for new editor HappyPerson. Actually, RJ's new rules make some sense, in a sort of do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do way. Bets on how long before HappyPerson requests a name change? --Simple 19:44, 11 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Bets on how long before he's blocked for violating the "name rule" and 2 innocent socks get rolled up in the carpet containing HappyPerson's still quivering corpse. <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish  Talk 19:55, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Bets on his city/college/etc. being blocked while he is asked to change his name? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  22:46, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

HP must have a death wish: he's gone and edited one of The Boss's world history lectures. --Simple 20:04, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

Hollywood Values
Despite Andy desperately grasping at straws with this one, I'm surprised nobody's pointed out that his (the murderer's, not Andy's) career with the Marines probably equipped him better to be a murderer, than a one-off bit part in a hack TV show. I wonder if Andy was rejected for the lead role in his school's play once upon a time? --PsyGremlinWhut? 09:55, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Nah--it's probably just that Hollywood is full of Jews and gays. And gay Jews.--WJThomas 11:04, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Gay jewish atheists who work for the liberal media. EddyP 11:09, 12 April 2009 (EDT)


 * That jewish god is so afraid of gays that he thinks it's ok to offer your daughter to be gangraped rather than let 2 dudes decide whether to join a gay orgy. <font color=#1100aa face=albertus size=2>Thee Nuttish  Talk 13:18, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * This is certainly desperate. First, he argues that "unsuccessful" Hollywood types are more representative than the rest. That just doesn't make sense, and especially that means he can't dismiss counterexamples as "obscure" anymore. Also, isn't Screen Actors's Guild just some kind of worker's union? Do you need to do something special to "earn" a place there? <font weight="normal" color="red">Etc 18:38, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * It's the actor's union. You gotta join to play parts.  Ronald Reagan was once president of it. All you do join  (probably) is pay dues. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  23:09, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * You have to do so many roles of various sizes (lines, camera time etc) to qualify for membership and then you have to pay dues <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  01:21, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

I think Teh Assfly made a good point with this, when he said "Indeed, it is when they start to fail, as nearly all do, that the Hollywood values become most dangerous". After all, we all now how dangerous a certain actor became as his Hollywood career wound down. MDB 07:36, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

AddisonDM
...has checkuser now. Will he join TK in his crusade to block all new users, or will he struggle against him? EddyP 11:00, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Given that "seasoned" sysops like Dean and Karajerk are clueless to the fact that different people can have the same IP address, I imagine he'll happily join in range-blocking vast swathes of the on-line world. I'm more curious about why only some sysops are deemed worthy of the privilege - after all, if they all had it, they could shut out the known universe in days. --PsyGremlinWhut? 11:21, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * For more than obvious reasons I wont be posting here anymore. I realize that while a lot of what is done here makes sense, I have unfortunately suffered elsewhere if you know what I mean. OncomingStorm 11:31, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * ...you created an account here just to tell us that you won't be posting here anymore? *tilts head to side* --Sid 11:42, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I was wondering about that. EddyP 11:43, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The Revelations quote on the page makes it look like Jinx, or maybe someone who wants us to think they're Jinx. --Kels 11:49, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I think it won't make that much of a difference: TK and his buddies already X-Ray every non-sysop all the time, so it's not like there is much left for Addison. --Sid 11:47, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I can just see TopKnut telling Addison to back off, Terry gets to instigate the range blocks first. <font color=Blue>Генгис    13:17, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I know have a go about them for their range blocking but what they are trying to do is block the old class B and C networks. A level 16 block will take out a class B network and level 24 would take out a class C. However now the IP space has moved to classless assignments and people have sold off block of their range what they are doing is a little misguided. - User   23:57, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Although they normally block a /16 or a /24, there are a moderate number of others - there are some /20s and /22s from TK recently, for example. This is either because he's carefully checked which subnets belong to which ISPs/companies, or it's because he wants to give the impression that he knows what he's doing. alt 06:22, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
 * The bigger the range, the shorter the blog is an advisable rule-of-thumb, and therefore, it is ignored totally: while TK hands out arbitrary lengths of blocks, Karajou just blocks for eternity... 06:39, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
 * There's a better rule of thumb to bear in mind before that one: don't block an entire /16 range if a single IP address is giving you grief. alt 08:46, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

Hm I like where this is potentially going. TK loves pulling rank, citing his checkuser as a blanket justification for his crazies when mere sysops like Addison ask questions. Maybe this will liven things up a bit. Go get em Addison! <font color="#008080">tealish <font color="#FFBF00">??!!!1 01:16, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

🇰🇪 must be crying
I wonder of 🇰🇪 will unblock the Dawkins rangeblock. He's already challenged TK over BigWhammy, or whatever the fuck his name is, let's see if he has the nerve to undo a TK rangeblock. User:TheemperorUser talk:Theemperor 11:57, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I like his claim that CP is going to increase its Youtube subscriber base. Perhaps someone should tell him that people can subscribe voluntarily and so far they have a grand total of 1 subscriber. Also, is there a name for the condition whereby someone communicates almost exclusively using obscure youtube videos as metaphors? Jammy 16:27, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah, its called being a freaking idiot. Ace McWickedbitch and moan 16:49, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Not that its a big difference as far as numbers on YouTube, but according to their channel they have 48 subscribers. EternalCritic 17:12, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * I think some of us were confused by subscriptions vs. subscribers. -- 17:24, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

Indeed, I was one such moron...forgive me Jammy 19:26, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Re: communicating via metaphors & obscure YouTube videos, that's one of the early onset stages of PUMA-ism. It's almost always terminal, at least for higher brain functions.-Diadochus 00:00, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Ah, DeMyer Syndrome. -- 18:34, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

Of Muslims and agendas
9:00: Morning call to prayer

10:30: Brunch with Bin Laden

11:00: Institute socialism

12:00: Death to America

I think the Obama's Muslim Agenda page is really one of the best examples of CP doublethink that doesn't involve Assfly in some way. Think it's implying that he's pushing a Muslim agenda? Oh, no, you misunderstand - the Muslim (!!!) Agenda (!!!!!!) is just a list of things that B. HUSSEIN Obama has done that relate to the Islamic world in some way. Expect to see a page about "Genocidal agenda of the Obama administration" if he talks about Darfur anytime soon.

The entire idea behind the page is just so bugfuck crazy that nobody's really bothered to call Jpatt out in any depth on the talk page - I get the sense that the more sane CPians are just shaking their heads and moving on... Viscount 00:33, 13 April 2009 (EDT)


 * Personally, I enjoy it. Jpatt brings in underrated lulz. It's time y'all recognize. <font color="#008080">tealish <font color="#FFBF00">??!!!1 01:12, 13 April 2009 (EDT)


 * That page is rapidly becoming my favourite page in CPland.  It's just FANTASTIC.   <font color="#00F0A20">DogP  13:07, 13 April 2009 (EDT)


 * You forgot:

12:30: Eat babies

3:00: Crash planes into Pentagon

4:00: Censor Conservapedia

-- 13:15, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

And then there's

5:00: Confiscate (defensive weapons of) guns

6:00: Call leaders of Vast Liberal Media Conspiracy, dictate stories for the evening news

7:00: Attend drug and gay sex party in Lincoln Bedroom

8:00: Deface portraits of the good Presidents: Reagan, Washington, Reagan, Lincoln, Reagan, Nixon, Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan

9:00: Come up with new forged birth certificate

10:00: Telephone various half-siblings, cousins, aunts, in-laws and invite them to come to US illegaly

11:00: After a light snack of aborted fetal tissue, retire to bed

1:00 AM: Ignore urgent phone call from Pentagon; tired after hard day of implementing socialism and destroying America MDB 14:36, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

Riemann Integral
Okay, TK deleted Riemann Integral - as outdated (TK seems to be a strict proponent of the superior Lebesgue Integral). But why did he protect the page? Is it just because of this entry at aSK? (shout-out to PJR: activate the -tags!) What happens to CP if more articles are transferred to aSK? 05:14, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Lebesgue please, are you still in the 1930's? Henstock-Kurzweil integral is what you want, and it is only a minor change to the Riemann, you don't have to do all that measure nonsense. Actually math tags is a big job, our school wiki still doesn't have it after over a year (yes a university mathematics department with wiki that does not support math tags) because it requires more than two steps to install like the other extensions. You need Latex, ghostscript and a few wiki extensions to get it to run. - User   22:17, 13 April 2009 (EDT)