Thread:User talk:Blue/What on earth.../reply (4)

One thing I've learned from my run-ins with these types of radfems is that with sufficient mental acrobatics, they can believe nearly anything.

They start with a worldview that says that male oppression of females is the most primal and worst form of oppression, and that all other forms of oppression came secondary - academically dubious but not entirely wrongheaded. They then progress to the specific source of that oppression, which they hold to be sexual in nature: penes oppress vaginae.

Trans men get virtually no focus by these radfems or their sympathizers. They won't get their identity respected, but you'll often hear anti-trans folks say things like "I don't care very much about [trans men], it's the [trans women] that are the problem."

Because to them, males are defined by penes-at-birth and females by vaginae-at-birth, and it is impossible to change your sex. Thus, trans women are just Privileged Patriarchal MenTM trying to claim even more from Womyn Born WomynTM. And they sure use an impressive amount of No true Scotsmans and other fallacies (Brennan herself once claimed that "no female would ever go after a child," for instance).

They see everything as patriarchy. All movements besides Women's Lib are, to them, insidious patriarchal attempts to oppress women. This includes the LGBT movement, which they tend to decry as not helping lesbians enough and focusing too much on changing society's attitudes toward attraction and identity (vis-a-vis queer and transgender theory).