RationalWiki talk:Guide to the Hidden Forum (or there is no cabal)

I sincerely hope
...that you've made a Matrix reference at least once while inviting new members? Anyway, I don't mind. I'm on another secret forum anyway. :p Uchiha 23:19, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Unlike the Matrix we don't invite new members, we let the rest of y'all continue being good little batteries :). 23:24, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

FYI I don't care what youall been discussing - you've a perfect right to conduct private conversations with whomesoever you please. (I rather think that threatening to out such conversations is a betrayal of trust of the meanest kind.) If it hadn't been for such there'd be no RW would there? Being a naive Brit, I trust our Admins to behave in the interests of the wiki & wouldn't rock the boat under any circumstances that I can imagine. (my word I sound positively arsehole creeping - going for sycophant of the year award!) Susan  You don't have to talk, but ...  23:49, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

PS The matrix started good but Holywooditis took over & turned it into another Western transported to virtuality. Susan You don't have to talk, but ...

The one gripe I have is that they're too tolerant. Susan You don't have to talk, but ...  23:49, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

I hope I'm just one of the majority who don't care one way or another, and would rather spend more emotional baggage over burning a perfectly delicious goat cake.  Norseman Wassail!   00:05, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * Yup, I think you are Norse ole buddy. Me too, I suppose. Susan  You don't have to talk, but ...  00:14, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * Wait. There was a secret forum, and I wasn't invited? Ouch. Actually, I don't care, I have my own super secret forum.  And its more super secret than yours. Bohdan 00:45, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Bohdan, you would find it immensely funny! Just email or IM me.  Unless, of course they want to delete the article, which is a pack of lies and false history.  Their choice!  Cheers! --Иight¤Ṭrain  ♦Τalk ǃ 00:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * So is this is the place where they discussed policy? That would make the whole "mobocracy" think is just a lie. Bohdan 00:53, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Yes! Seems some talk a good game, but need the darkness to actually be themselves and attack people who cannot respond. I really don't think that is a "Liberal" attribute.  Most of us are honest, and open.  We tell people to their faces, rather than make hidden forums to talk crap about others.  I kept asking that they drop this, but they felt the need to make this lie of an article to try and salvage their "images" I guess.  Maybe the thing to do is post the screen shots, along with the users IP addresses?  Someone get back to me about that, if there is objection from the Mob, I won't....but just like here, I have moved and seconded, and unless objection is made, I will do so.   --Иight¤Ṭrain  ♦Τalk ǃ 00:58, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * If you wish to post screen shots go ahead, try and block out personal identification such as IP addresses though. We can make a "virtual tour" section. 01:10, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Do shut up Night Drain - you're begining to bore me. Susan You don't have to talk, but ...  01:13, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * NT, what are you, um... what are you trying to do, exactly? To accomplish here? Just messing around, or do you have an ideological bone to pick? Uchiha 01:24, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * Whatever, Trent. I will put them all up, personal information and all, on a website you don't control.  Your House Lawyer can busy himself with objections.  Or, you could just let this all go, as you promised you would, but others decided to keep on keeping on.  Totally your choice, though, and all you need to do is honor your past promises.


 * Uchiha, My only objection is to pious liars, just like Assfly, pretending here they have a mobocracy, yet direct policy and attack others from a hidden area. If these guys would only walk the walk, and not just talk the talk, everything would be fine.  If they want to have a little clubhouse, I don't care.  If they want to use that club house to direct disinformation against any one person, and never allow that person to answer back, that I find objectionable.  Their pretense of not being exclusive, and yet doing the pot/kettle thing to others, is laughable.  I was willing to let the whole thing drop, but others found the need to continue it by making this article, trying to laugh off their embarassment.  Since they are not being honest in their article 100%, they are the ones dragging this out.   --Иight¤Ṭrain  ♦Τalk ǃ 01:31, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * When I go to a cannibal restaurant, I always order the House Lawyer. --Kels 06:31, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * Hehe, you should make a wiki to analyze our wiki which is here to refute another wiki which exists to attack another wiki. Then I will make a wiki to refute your wiki, and we can just keep on keeping on! 01:42, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Now that gave a needed laugh to a too intense situation....thanks for that! --Иight¤Ṭrain ♦Τalk ǃ 01:46, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * Then I would need to make a wiki to refute all of your wikis. Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  Always Watching...... 01:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Night Train, you couldn't find one scrap of text on the forum which showed anybody making up "policy" for RW. The forum has been used only for discussion of off-site plans, and discussion of pages on RW (NOT policy making). -- Ζωροάστρης  12:12, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * So, the discussion about a Google email group, wasn't policy, or connected to Rational Wiki? Odd, it has the name of Rational Wiki Maybe you just forgot?  There are other instances too, you might have missed, Hojimachong.  You can review them  here soon, if you don't decide to end this. --Иight¤Ṭrain  ♦Τalk ǃ 12:23, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * NT, your head is too far up your ass to realize that the email group was posted on the public forum ("RationalWiki"), with an open invitation to join, and unrestricted registration. The other email group posted on the cabal forum is specifically for coordinating off-site activity. -- Ζωροάστρης  12:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * I've stayed silent so far, but... You're striking out against everybody of the Cabal (including me) because of your grudge against some? --Sid 12:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

It is so odd, but looking at the ancient history here, whenever anyone has dared to disagree with the powers that be here, that small little clique, they are always subject to the same old bullshit of being labled as someone else. All I have asked for is for them to stop their attacks on others. Nothing more. It was Cabal who moved it public, and Cabal forum members who provoked responses. This is easily checked in the page histories. The good news is, people are talking, and hopefully we can all walk away from this. I think there is a real good-faith effort underway now. --Иight¤Ṭrain <font color="DC143C">♦Τalk ǃ 14:47, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

why not GO?
Night Drain, what do you think this is - It's a fucking wiki - not a nation, not a political party, not a religion - it's of less moment than my cat - it's only reason for existence is to puncture the anti - science religious right and(incidentally) to enjoy the company. Right now I'm not enjoying yours - you're obviously not enjoying ours so why not piss off? Susan You don't have to talk, but ...  01:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Well excuse me, Susan.....but the whole world isn't about amusing you, is it? And this place isn't even 40% about anti-science. It is about CP.  And if you stopped attacking, and others stopped making up lies to explain away their doings, it would have been dropped hours ago.  <font color="#00FFAA" face="Berlin Sans FP">--Иight¤Ṭrain  <font color="DC143C">♦Τalk ǃ 01:31, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * 1. Yes, it is. Susan's friends and family hired all of us to set this up to amuse her, and her alone (ok, & her cat). 2. You obviously haven't spent much time on the site.  CP is an incidental interest because it's where most of us met.  Oh, and 3. take a chill pill. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  11:58, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Someone's veneer is cracking. NT, I think most people here want to move on, and not perpetuate a destructive and non-beneficial cycle. Or we can continue to bicker. Your call, but vengeance is not its own end.- 02:29, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * The veneer cracking seems to be one of your members in your little playhouse arguing directly opposite their personal attacks made on another member of this wiki, and the rest of you playing along, AmesG.  Think about it.  <font color="#00FFAA" face="Berlin Sans FP">--Иight¤Ṭrain  <font color="DC143C">♦Τalk ǃ 12:16, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Hey
Hoji, who made you resident hotheaded teenager, I seem to have missed that vote? <font color=Orange>Locke   <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 01:49, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * I think he got it through squatters rights. Kenservative 13:03, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Because I said so. YOU WANNA MAKE SOMETHIN OF IT, PUNK? -- Ζωροάστρης  12:08, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

NERD FIGHT!!

Clarification?
I find this a little hard to follow. Does this mean rationalwiki isn't a "mobocracy"? Is it an oligarchy? If it is an oligarchy, what would be the easiest way to get user:Tmtoulouse banned? And who would get his powers? Bohdan 14:28, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * I think it's still a mobocracy, the fact that non-wiki-related decisions are made offsite notwithstanding. And if TMT were banned, the immediate successor would be Andrew Schlafly, or, with a showing of good cause.... you.- 14:37, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Great. Can I count on your support when I try to get tmt banned? Bohdan 14:38, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Well, you're already a RW sysop, aren't you? That means you're at least one step ahead of Schlafly.- 14:40, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Bohdan's a sysop here? Sweet. You're a step ahead of me, too. I call for the de-sysoping of all administrators, and the proclaimation of Bohdan as dictator.  Γ [[Image:Hammer_and_Sickle_text_gold.svg]] δλεσς Λιβεραλ  14:41, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

GL, I'm fairly sure you're a sysop. If you're not, I have no idea why not. But, seconded.- 14:42, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Hey yeah, that's right, Bohdan is a sysop... what's with that??? Uchiha 14:42, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Actually, tmt's faithful little supporter User:Human took away my sysopship. Bohdan 14:43, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * He took mine away, too. But I asked him to do so. It was right before I temporarily retired forever ago. Then I never got around to asking for them back... I might go do that sometime soon. AND HE TOOK BOHDAN'S POWAZ AWAY?!  Γ [[Image:Hammer_and_Sickle_text_gold.svg]] δλεσς Λιβεραλ  14:45, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * There is a small chance I might have asked him to do it, but I am not concerned with insignificant details. Bohdan 14:47, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Gosh if those two trouble makers are Sysops, I want to be one too! In fact, why can't all members be demoted to that? In a mobocracy, that only seems fair! Bohdan, if you agree to make all regular members here sysops, I will work 24/7 to insure your election! <font color="#00FFAA" face="Berlin Sans FP">--Иight¤Ṭrain <font color="DC143C">♦Τalk ǃ 14:51, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * Bohdan, did you just call me black hole's jock strap? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  14:49, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

yes, sysopship for all! Bohdan 14:53, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * And free porn or Disney movies for all? <font color="#00FFAA" face="Berlin Sans FP">--Иight¤Ṭrain  <font color="DC143C">♦Τalk ǃ 14:55, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * What's wrong with free goat?  Γ [[Image:Hammer_and_Sickle_text_gold.svg]] δλεσς Λιβεραλ  15:02, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


 * I demand Humbly request </Sub> Cratship. <font color=Orange>Locke  [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 15:09, 3 November 2007 (EDT) <Sup>No, seriously.

It would appear that sysopship has gotten too attractive. I propose a mandatory twenty lashes a day for all sysops and bureaucrats. I'm certain that Susan will be happy to assist with her horsewhip. :nods: -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 15:13, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * Shudder* <font color=Orange>Locke [[Image:Eye.jpg|10px|User is Vandal/sysop]]  <font color=Black>Always Watching...... 15:19, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
 * I'd just like to remind everyone, esp. Susan, that I am a sysop, and have been very naughty.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 15:20, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Now we're talking - a Doctor might be able to afford ... Susan  You don't have to talk, but ...  15:31, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

I like my position of privilege! I hereby renew my request to not be made a sysop (a suspicious and cowardly lot). --Kels 15:34, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Non sequitur

 * PalMD Maybe I am, maybe im not...i frankly can't remember.
 * (You're not...we ah..."voted" you out weeks ago.) CЯacke ®
 * It was the pants, wasn't it? I knew it had to be the pants.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 22:56, 4 November 2007 (EST)
 * Yes, we told you they were required. 22:57, 4 November 2007 (EST)
 * For your own good, mind you, when, you know the FBI comes busting down the wiki.CЯacke ®
 * FBI, everyone on the ground NOW.....
 * I'll go down as far as my knees.CЯacke ®
 * Shit, just for that you serve your sentence in Andrew Schlafly's basement. --The FBI
 * Oh! I always wanted to be groomed! CЯacke ®

Note, moving this here breaks the comment in the section before it on the article. So that needs to be edited now (to point to this section here). <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  12:52, 5 November 2007 (EST)

My bad. I didn't want to turn the article into a tlak page but it became such so I "fixeed" it not knowing there was a reference to the "discussion" above. Thanks fer the real fix there Hu.CЯacke ® 13:07, 5 November 2007 (EST)
 * I get on my knees for no man...pretty much...--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 13:04, 5 November 2007 (EST)
 * Isn't that one of Kels' sayings? Genghis Khant 15:11, 5 November 2007 (EST)
 * This from Mr. "Turn you head and cough". CЯacke ® 13:07, 5 November 2007 (EST)


 * That's doctor turn your head and cough.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 13:09, 5 November 2007 (EST)
 * Yes, Doctor, close your eyes and [cough] ! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  13:27, 5 November 2007 (EST)
 * Wait, wait wait I'm the gay one here. I don't usually cough though I may gag occasionally, for the theatrics of it all.CЯacke ® 14:01, 5 November 2007 (EST)
 * Drama queen!162.82.215.199 14:59, 5 November 2007 (EST)
 * Drama Queen!!! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 15:37, 5 November 2007 (EST)

<- OK, we get it. You people are even more disgusting over there than you are here. Please take this back behind closed doors, where it should have stayed. signed, The MOB 15:46, 5 November 2007 (EST)

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Temporary protection
I have temporarily protected this page against anonymous users, as it seems to be a heavy spam target. I know that it's typically against policy, but that seems to be the only edits to this page in, oh, the last couple months. 15:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. That's what the feature is there for. 17:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And I've locked it from anonymous users again because of continued spamming. 15:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC)