Forum:IllumiCorp

Recently, I came across a website called IllumiCorporation.com, I were very intrigued paranoid by the website so I decided to do some digging and I found some things which helped me calm down my situation by a little bit. I found out that the site is owned, or at least connected to, a person called Ainsley Knight (Source 1 and Source 2) After more research I found out that she owns The Knight Company website which I found very suspicious considering that if you look at the FAQ of the website it says that a Righ Knight owns the company. I got even more intrigued paranoid so I decided to look further. I have found out that Ainsely Knight is connected with these: How Ainsley was connected to the Knight company was beyond me so I decided to email the owner to possibly get some answers. Thankfully he replied and this is what he said: "Hi [My Name] and thanks for reaching out I apologise for the confusion and I am not sure what to tell you for most of what you asked but I can assure you that Ainsley and I were married but separated in 2010, Ainsley has apparantely purchased a lot of domain names and made many websites. I do run www.righ.ca | www.knight.ws | www.cusco.ca. but these are all managed by Ainsley and owned by her. As I said, I update the 3 sites above from time to time, but any other sites she owns or has re-directing, or Facebook pages is beyond me. I hope I have been of some help. Sorry for the confusion. May I ask what type of agency you work for? Warm regards, -Righ Knight" At this point things started falling into place nicely. There was still one problem, the IllumiCorp "training" video. Luckily, it was easier to find information on that video than Ainsley Knight. The IllumiCorp video was a spoof/satire video made in 2010 (by the way even Mark Dice, yes THAT Mark Dice, said this isn't real if that means anything). The maker of the video is a Canadian filmmaker Matt Anderson and the actors in the video was Arthur Roberts. (source). All seemed fine when I noticed that on the IllumiCorp website they credited Matt Anderson for making the video and they said that it was specifically made for that website but why? Anybody could just search that up and find that the IllumiCorp video wasn't serious. Why credit him if people can find out through that that the video is fake? Later I just pieced the puzzle together and dismissed this entire IllumiCorp thing as scam/cranks being cranks. However, this illumicorp thing has been plaguing me for a few days now and it has been affecting me emotionally (making me paranoid or feel melancholy). The constant questions like 'why did they credit him', 'why are they treating this like a regular business', 'why are they charging so much for their "membership"', 'why do they have products based on this 15 minute video (well one really, the "membership card")', 'is it coincidence that the video was made by a Candian filmmaker and the website is from Canada' and 'what's the point of this' have been running around in my head for a good few days now. Please, I need some help to finally come to a conclusion that this is crank stuff/a scam. I hope you can help. On a side note, I don't believe in any secret cabal that controls the the world, nor do I believe that the Bavarian illuminati existed past the 18th century and somehow became all powerful. I don't believe that tripe. I'm a sceptic, however an unfortunately weak minded sceptic. Thank you in advance--WeakMindedSkeptic (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * IllumiCorp
 * OfficialIlluminati
 * Black Sun Society
 * T.H.U.L.E group
 * Hidden Hand Facebook
 * Black Sun Society Facebook (they post things like "MAJOR event coming tomorrow" and then next day post a news article because, allegedly, the "knew" about the event or "predicted" the event)
 * The Knight Company
 * First, let me just say: this is a lot of information you've dug up! If you're in the mood, feel free to write up an article. (Sometimes putting all the information down and ordering it helps me get things straight, too.)
 * Second, on your questions:
 * I'd choose Hanlon's razor; before assuming that these websites are anything more sinister than conspiracist nuttery, just assume that they got things wrong.
 * Meh. Anyone can, but how many do? Even if 9 out of 10 viewers of the video think, "Hey, this is fucking insane" and look it up, maybe the other 1 won't question the authenticity of the video. It's the same as lieing to the public in general: not everyone factchecks, and so you'll always have some people believe what you say.
 * I think this answers your next question:
 * Because if they make it look legit, they can get money from people. And scams (also called affinity fraud) are extremely common in media groups that pander to conspiracist peoples.
 * Probs. There's 35 million people, it happens.
 * It's much easier to believe that people are often greedy and willing to lie to others in order to make money. Again, affinity fraud is rampant in conspiracist circles. Megachurches and televangelists use essentially the same tactics to get rich off of abusing the average person's belief. The alternative (the site is real and so are the illuminati) is much, much harder to believe. And both theories have the same explanatory power: they both state that there will be people like this, selling Illuminati products. Occam's Razor says to choose the former. 20:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding, you have helped me clear things up and I thank you very much for that. I assume, looking back at it, it was really hard for me to comprehend that people would actually do something like that to just get money. It's quite sad really but, as you said, people do things like that and have done so for quite some time. I can't thank you enough! Now that i think about it, I will make an article on this, thank you for the suggestion!--WeakMindedSkeptic (talk) 21:20, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Nah, thank you! You've documented another nutty site. There's a lot of insanity out there -- at the very least, RW can showcase it. 21:45, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Probs. There's 35 million people, it happens.
 * It's much easier to believe that people are often greedy and willing to lie to others in order to make money. Again, affinity fraud is rampant in conspiracist circles. Megachurches and televangelists use essentially the same tactics to get rich off of abusing the average person's belief. The alternative (the site is real and so are the illuminati) is much, much harder to believe. And both theories have the same explanatory power: they both state that there will be people like this, selling Illuminati products. Occam's Razor says to choose the former. 20:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding, you have helped me clear things up and I thank you very much for that. I assume, looking back at it, it was really hard for me to comprehend that people would actually do something like that to just get money. It's quite sad really but, as you said, people do things like that and have done so for quite some time. I can't thank you enough! Now that i think about it, I will make an article on this, thank you for the suggestion!--WeakMindedSkeptic (talk) 21:20, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Nah, thank you! You've documented another nutty site. There's a lot of insanity out there -- at the very least, RW can showcase it. 21:45, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding, you have helped me clear things up and I thank you very much for that. I assume, looking back at it, it was really hard for me to comprehend that people would actually do something like that to just get money. It's quite sad really but, as you said, people do things like that and have done so for quite some time. I can't thank you enough! Now that i think about it, I will make an article on this, thank you for the suggestion!--WeakMindedSkeptic (talk) 21:20, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Nah, thank you! You've documented another nutty site. There's a lot of insanity out there -- at the very least, RW can showcase it. 21:45, 5 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Are you the same person who's been around as a BoN? If dumb websites "affect you emotionally" to that degree you should probably see a therapist. Don't take offense. There's nothing wrong with seeing a therapist. I myself am seeing one; I have depression and am on medication. --Ymir (talk) 22:08, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by BoN but you are probably right about therapy (also no offense taken and I agree with you that there's nothing wrong with seeing a therapist) for at least 5 months now I have been affected by various conspiracy theories and it was not a pleasent experiance to say the least. Thank you for the suggetion. However what would I say? I find it really embarassing that I get affected by such bunk.
 * There's no embarrassment in improving your life. Just say what's true! Opening up is hard, but it's worth it if it can bring you a more stable mindset. (Admittedly, my advice might not apply to you -- but you can always ask the therapist, and they can provide advice for you.) 23:45, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I have created the article (yay!) if it's unprofessional that's most likely because that's my first ever article. If any of you feel like the article needs changing go for it! :-) Other than that, thank you all for calming me down and giving me those suggestions. This has always been my favourite wiki.WeakMindedSkeptic (talk) 02:08, 6 April 2016 (UTC)