User talk:Human/Archive2

archived 6/23/07

you lying bastard two faced asshole slime mold

 * Why does everyone here refuse to follow their own rules? Why don't you accede to my reasonable demands?  Why are you all so confused about how to follow rules? Make me a sysop!  Bet you thought this was someone else. human be in 21:57, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * As most bio geeks know, slime molds are actually kinda cool. Be careful who you compare them to.--PalMD-yada yada 22:02, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * My apologies to all slime molds, which I actually do revere, for associating them with simple slime. I like blue-green algae, too.  And fungi rule!  I'm, like, as much into decay processes as you are into goats. human be in 22:05, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Now don't you be badmouthing slimes! --Kels 22:07, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes dear. Anything you say, dear. I'm sorry, dear. Christ on a cookie, it wasn't even me, it was my jockpuppet! Eeewwwwwww! human be in 22:11, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * You just keep "Mister Meatpuppet" where he belongs, mm'kay? --Kels 22:12, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * My mission tonight was to satirize and humiliate Mr. Meatmuppet as crudely and lulzly as possible. I hope that I succeeded at least 10%. And if at first I don't succeed... I guess I'll just have to suck harder. human be in 22:15, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Wiki? whaa?--PalMD-yada yada
 * Doc, your next assignment, should choose to accept it, is to school TK on the colon and its functions. Slowly, and, ideally, with a goat. human be in 22:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, first of all, anyone over 50 needs a colonoscopy to screen for cancer. Usually this is done with a flexible colonoscope and light sedation.  Before the wide use of fiberoptics, rigid colonoscopes were used...--PalMD-yada yada 22:38, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Don't tell him about any advance since the 50's, and use the rigid one on him. And some sand. human be in 22:40, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Anyone over 50? Well, that's something to look forward to, I guess. --AKjeldsen 09:42, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

Award

 * I changed the award "recipient" from "Huey" (which is not me) to "Human" (which is). I am very honored to have been bestowed upon this humble banner by whoever you are.  Humbled, too, but not yet humiliated. So far today... human be in 17:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Goats. I like goats. I like goats a lot. - DocSmock (saving you the trouble)

Familiarity
It was somewhat familiar, although I can't quite place from where ... -ויִכִּ<font color="#550044"> נ<font color="#770022">תֶּ<font color="#aa0000">ר ֶפּ רֶ תֵּ ר  שְׁלֹום!
 * Haha, I did think i was someone else. Nice.  Flippin ;-)

Fundamentalism
Nee bother, H. You're too hard on yourself, though - you can write perfectly well when you want to ;) --Robledo 15:20, 3 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks [blush] - I do fine with mundane matters such as spelling, grammar and syntax. But my perception and provision of so-called "facts" tends to be a bit fractally distorted at times.  Many times. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 18:14, 3 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Facts are greatly overrated, anyway. *nods* --AKjeldsen 04:57, 4 June 2007 (CDT)

Change?
No longer a Bureaucrat, Human? --Ë. 03:32, 4 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Huh? My inner caveman does not understand what you mean.  Bureaucrat? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 11:53, 4 June 2007 (CDT)
 * As in, the position higher than Sysop? I didn't think Human ever was a Bureaucrat. GodlessLiberal 17:14, 4 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah, yes. But of course, you mean lower than sysop, which is one notch lower than editor.  Which is one step below casual reader, below the ultimate top of the pyramid - anonymous vandal.  Mobocracy has inverted power structure.  But I still want to know (barely), what did E. put in its coffee/wodka at 3:30 this AM to come up with that bizarre question? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:50, 4 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I dig mobocracy, but we need more mob-ians.--PalMD-yada yada 17:53, 4 June 2007 (CDT)
 * There's a mob at the gates with torches, dear. Why don't we let them in for some tea?  Why, one of them is even dressed as a caveman!  (If it weren't for socks, there's only be three of us!) <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 18:03, 4 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Can I have a torch? Or do I have to be promoted into the mob first? GodlessLiberal 16:38, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

So, now what?
Do we ban/revert/delete? Wait a few hours and then pick up the pieces? User:PalMD
 * I assume you are reffering to user:NeoNazi. I am not the be all and end all of how to deal with this, but my gut is to keep reversion and banning to a bare minimum.  here are my ideas: 1) We follow the contribs and "fix" articles.  For instance, "Evil Jew" can be about anti-semitism and anti-semitic tactics.  Pointless titles can be blanked by anyone and deleted by any sysop; perhaps content saved to a RationalWiki:General Vandalism file.  That deals with the articles/vandalism without being heavy handed, I hope.  2) As far as the user name, again, we've been pretty lenient, so maybe we put a template on their talk page saying "this user name is considered offensive by the RW community, but in the interest of openness, we are allowing it".  Of course, by the time I am done writing this, others with stronger opinions may have taken harsher measures. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:23, 6 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Gulp! The "final solution"?  :-O  --Ë. 00:20, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

User page.....
That addition to your user page tonight, while not only accurate and called for, gives me cause to re-evaluate my idea of you, Human. I am glad I saw it. --TK/MyTalk|undefined 00:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Hmm, how so? I just saw it on Middleman's page (I think) and thunk it were funny.  So I stole it. Still curious as to how it gave you cause to re-evaluate your idea of me? Oh, and that's right, I also edited some random text on there while I was editing.  I always vandalize my user page in pairs.  It's a baramin enema thing, I think. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 00:24, 11 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I am all for ending preconceptions. Always have been. Some of us have given cause for what shit we've gotten, to be sure, and oftentimes what starts out as just giving someone bullshit, it turns into something more...and there isn't like a guidebook to know when the line is crossed, right?  That said, no flowers being sent to you for the moment, lol.   --TK/MyTalk|undefined 00:47, 11 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I'll send the flowers for TK. GodlessLiberal 01:12, 11 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Remember, those conservatives are always cheap bastards. --Ë. 01:19, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Unless they think they have something to gain. C®acker 09:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the flowers, GL! And, as usual, TK, I haven't got a friggin' clue what you mean. But that was probably intentional, right? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 22:39, 12 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I reckon so, Human...just another attempt by me to let bygones be bygones, that you deftly turned back on me as an insult. Check all of my posts.  This is about #25 in that product line....;-) --TK/MyTalk|undefined 13:45, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I just couldn't figure out what you meant. IE, which edit, and did it change your idea of me for better or for worse, and even, how and why? So, you were meaning to lower the tensions?  The trouble is, you didn't say that, and I hate to have to guess what someone means.  So I asked. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 13:51, 15 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Really? If one looks at your User page history, they will see that immediately after I made the post above on 11 June @ 00:47(CDT) you changed the remarks I was talking about to something else entirely.  I am sure it was a coincidence, however. Below is what my comment related to, as it did touch me:

"Keep in mind that some people who have not exactly been thrilled with previous activity on RW1 have been invited to sign up here. Please treat them nicely as they adapt, and if things get rough, fall back on the safety valve of ignoring them for a little bit. They'll relax soon enough, and there's no point in making their transition more difficult. Evidence so far indicates that the ones who decide to really participate here add a lot to our dialogue" Revision as of 01:22, 5 June 2007

--TK/MyTalk|undefined 14:10, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

It was a coincidence, yes. I had just made that edit (It was getting dated, so I wandalized it, of course without realizing you were commenting on it at the same time), and added the 'archivedvandalism' template to my page, and when I saved it, I got the notice of your new message here. So it was literally a coincidence - we edited at the same time. The thing you quoted above had been there since, oh, late May? And yes, it did obviously relate to you (and a couple of other people who had tenderly dipped their toes in the sewer that is RW), and I meant it - as you will recall, in your early days here, some people were complaining to you right away about pre-RW2 activities on CP, right after a few of us "welcomed" you. Now I know what you were talking about. No wonder I couldn't figure out what you meant! I do tend to keep messing with things on my user page until they make no sense whatsoever. Thanks for clearing it up. And, you're retroactively welcome for the sentiment, although I don't think anyone ever read it. besides us. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 14:42, 15 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Maybe you just don't, cannot because of your personality, which is obviously much more thick skinned than mine, know how much the hatered here, when I was assured (wrongly and stupidly I beleived them, so shame on me!)it wouldn't be that bad. I cannot think of anything in my entire life that has made me so hurt.  Now go ahead and laugh, make fun of me for that candor, it can't be worse than you and others have and keep doing. Now it is costing me real money and my real reputation, the hate of me on the part of people here. --TK/MyTalk|undefined 14:48, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

(with a completely straight face) TK, my man, if the deepest emotional pain you've ever had to deal with is your treatment here, then you truly are blessed. Rejoice in your good fortune. --Robledo 17:12, 15 June 2007 (CDT)


 * So predictable, and was predicted. Let me set you up with a sock, Robledo, and subject you to the same. Only it wouldn't be the same, as it wouldn't be real, would it?  --TK/MyTalk|undefined 18:46, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

W00t!
Done! High five!
 * High five!

Yeah, I'm not thinking my best, partially because I'm doing this rather secretively. <font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 16:53, 12 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Great. Now that we're done, I realize that there's probably an easier way to go about that. Ah well, just my luck, I suppose. <font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 16:57, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Haha, you mean at work? Yes, recipe worked great.  That bug is a pain, Trent & I ran into when he was creating "Essay:", which is why I sorta knew about it.  Now, move ACD to temp and we do it again? I don't know if there is an easier way, but catching it when there aren;t many files to move is the key.  Friggin housekeeping... Let's do ACD now! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 16:59, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

You guys are minor deities. Like, maybe Freia or one of those.--PalMD-yada yada 17:01, 12 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Already got ACD, I think. Check to see if they're all there. <font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 17:01, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Keep up the excellent work, gentlemen. --AKjeldsen 17:03, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks! hehe <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:04, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * ACD is all in ACD, yes. But they are still in the mainspace. Now we need to:


 * 1) Rename ACD to temp and verify (CHECK)
 * 2) delete all the ACD files in main and confirm (CHECK)
 * 3) rename Temp back to ACD, then it's Miller Time! Actually there are a couple of double redirects to clean up, but that's easy.


 * Like we just did with recipe. K? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:04, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Currently deleting ACD's from main... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:08, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Done. Now temp can be renamed to ACD! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:14, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

One last minor thing: the main page should have links to the two new "space" lists; and we'll have to write about them in rationalWiki:namespace <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:15, 12 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Ugh, that was dull. The next time, remind me to try interaction with the database. <font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 17:15, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Haha, dull, yes, but it's done. And we only did 50% more work than we needed to!  Not too bad for collaboration over this clumsy communication system.  Fives high! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:17, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

Recipes
Thanks. I hope you had a chance to review all of them as you moved them. With CP down, you'll have time to do some cookin'.--PalMD-yada yada 20:01, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * You're welcome. I hope you don;t mind them being "relegated" (or is that honored) to their own namespace.  CP was down (back now), what up with that? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 21:02, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Regarding my recipes, what goat recipes would you like, Goat Tenderloins? Valorus 00:43, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Ooooh, that sounds yummy! With shallots and fresh peppercorns? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 00:50, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks.
Thanks for giving me help and advice on the vandalism thing on evolution. You always do good stuff. :-) --Bob_M (talk) 15:25, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * You're quite welcome. I also copied the "instructions" to the top of this page for future reference. Glad you did the work and I didn't have to! Our 'save the vandalism' policy does make for a bit more effort than just reverting... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 15:40, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

...
I'm glad you proofreed my editts. :0 Sterile 15:55, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

The return of the Bohdan
I've come to clear my name. I'll take a short block if you dont mind. But wait until PalMD responds. Then I will return to wiki-limbo. Bohdan 23:15, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I porked you for a day. Is that cool? You can always email me if it too much. 23:21, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * u-man...why are you mad at me?--PalMD-yada yada 23:23, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Doc, you know I lick your goats that they might make better compost, milk, and goat seed. Of course I love you, you disgusting person, you, (signed, one more disgusting person!) <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 23:32, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * But wait until PalMD responds!!!!Bohdan 00:13, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Uman...can you unblock Bohdan so i can finish my little tete a tete?--PalMD-yada yada 00:16, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I am unblocked now. Thanks to GL. Bohdan 00:17, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Whoa, hostility. --<font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 08:18, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Whoopsie, sorry I gummed up the works on that, Bohdan. Slap me... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:30, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
 * * slaps Human for Bohdan* --<font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 15:00, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

Next Sysop
Human - I think you're being premature, the CP:Sysops - Next Sysop section is not outdated until the Sysop is announced. Also I think it still deserves a place on the main page, not to show up TK but to exemplify Aschlafly's attitude to sysop creation and what he regards as good articles. In fact if DebB is made a sysop it should be put back. God's peed Babel fish<font color="#008888">ÅЯ†ђŮŖ ÐΣй† Now look here! 06:18, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, sorry - I thought she was one now. I might have been thinking of a previous "strong candidate", that other sysop's kid sister?  Anyway, yes, the section itself can always be kept fresh by people who are following CP closely, and the only reason I moved the chunk of talk from CP was to move that whole stupid section and keep the context.  If you put it back (which should be fine, right?), leave it on the talk page as well, so that argument keeps its context, ok? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:33, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Simple namespaces
I've installed Special:Namespaces for our future convenience. --<font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 08:20, 16 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I preceive what is often called a "catty" remark! --Ë. 21:41, 16 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Whatthewhat? No, I was just telling him because of the vast amount of difficulty that existed in the past. --<font color="#00FF00">Linus (plot evil tech) 14:49, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

So...
I am back, whats the scoop? Tmtoulouse 14:49, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
 * In a nutshell? We moved fun: and recipe: to their own namespaces.  We pissed off TK 27 more times.  We may have also pissed off EW 17 times.  So TK went and started some secret forum where he can talk to himself.  We added a bible quote to the front page. Doc had his tonsils out (I think) and he gave us all drugs. A few editors probably turned 16.  What we (still) need are more articles that are not focused on CP, of course, but we are making them (slowly).  Welcome back, and how was your vacation? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 14:55, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Fuck I missed the drugs? Who is EW? It was okay, I am glad to be away again.............home is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. Tmtoulouse 15:04, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I had a brief productive streak while I was recuperating, but I was on drugs, so I can't vouch for the quality. We need more articles.  I've been focusing of medical pseudosciences, some folks have gotten started on some creationist stuff.  A few folks opened a blog.  OTW, you didn't miss anything.  If you're qurious about EW (E Wig) just check out the forum or email me or Linus or Ames.--PalMD-yada yada 15:07, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes, so much better than just asking me! :p  Doc, you failed to mention the Percs! --Ë. 02:52, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Dare Ye Follow
--Kels 16:12, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Hahahahahahheheheheh, thanks, that's a riot! Now if only we could get them to use it for their front page.  Oh, wait, it pretty much is their front page! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 19:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Direct quote, no less. And honestly, not much more surreal. --Kels 19:11, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

you have e-mail
&mdash; Unsigned, by: tmtoulouse / talk / contribs
 * And internet access, too. :P <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 19:52, 19 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I bet them emails are flying fast and furious! Ë. 20:51, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
 * You can only imagine! Gawd, Bohdan, buttsex, goats, you wouldn't believe the secret machinations! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 22:03, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Authoritarianism
Hi Human. I left a comment earlier on the Authoritarianism talk page you may want to respond to. :-) Cheers.--Bob_M (talk) 15:47, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Behe's crap
So what do you think, do you think we can do one of our side by side refutations of ths? Tmtoulouse 20:45, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I thought the courts in PA already did ;) But, yeah, sure, why not?  I'll assemble the structure, whether I do any replies or not, I'm sure the hive will fill in the gaps. Good tip, thanks! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:50, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, help me with a friggin title for it? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:53, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Nevermind, it's Behe:The Edge of Evolution, Interview. Man, I have to archive again.  This place is a mess! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 21:10, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Mr Dent posted the following comment on my page about this article after I made a couple of edits: ...... My only suggestion is that it might be formatted in a similar fashion to some of jtl's side by side articles. It's not important but could give a standard look to RW refutations. I think he confused me with the creator. I don't know if you want to do something along the lines he suggested. (I'm not up to it) --Bob_M (talk) 12:12, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * The only real difference is that there is no colored box heading each side. Anyone could copy over that format, but this works fine, too, I think.  It was easier for me to create from scratch than doing endless copying and deletion  from an existing example (I use a program that I have set up to automatically create table tags, so the work went quickly). Thanks for the heads up! PS, ironically, I formatted the first s by s article, one by AmesG, I think, that dated from RW1.  They are all a little bit different. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 12:17, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

!!!
Dahling, if you think it belonged where it was, feel free to move it back, I wuz only trying to help. I mostly fixed HG's double double double double === == === == == == ==== 's <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 22:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * did
 * you
 * just
 * edit
 * my
 * talk page, and change the placement of a comment that was perfect where it was. I demand you block yourself. Bohdan 22:19, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Block yourself! (its fun) Bohdan 22:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Blocking oneself is rather sinful, even if fun.--DoxXox-DawkT0wk 22:22, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, ok, if you insist. For reasons noted above.  One minute. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 22:25, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

I think if anyone was wronged here, it was DocSock -- it was his comment that was moved. If he objects to the movement, I'll block Human for it. --<font face="Monaco,Consolas,Courier New,Courier,Fixed">jtl talk 22:28, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, except he beat me to it. --<font face="Monaco,Consolas,Courier New,Courier,Fixed">jtl talk 22:28, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Pseudoscience
Hey, can you help me go through the various articles in the various namespaces and slap a on anything that should go in the portal? Thanks! Tmtoulouse 15:06, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I can try, yes... but watching some recent changes, I think you're going a bit overboard with some of your inclusions. FSM, for instance.  Wedge strategy was pushing it, too.  Just because it relates to ID/DI, doesn't make it specifically PS.  It's a political strategy more than PS, in and of itself. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 15:40, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I don't think the pseudoscience category is for only things that are pseudoscience, but for all the various issues that deal with the surrounding issues of pseudoscience. There is no reason the wedge document couldnt be marked in a series of categories. Tmtoulouse 15:46, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I beg to differ. And yes, things can be in multiple categories, but by that logic, eventually every article on this site will be in the PS category.  It's basically why we are here, after all.  I would plaintively beg to keep it a bit tighter.  Or, better idea perhaps, create a few sub-categories? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 15:48, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Well what criterion would you use for inclusion? Tmtoulouse 15:49, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Topics that use scientific language and make apparently scientific claims, that aren't science? I just reverted Ann Coulter, by the way.  An excellent example for a sub-cat, if she does indeed promote PS - "PS promoters" - would be the people.  "PS tactics" could be things like wedge strategy.  "PS organizations" could include DI, etc.  And the topics themselves would be raw in the master category. I'm not sure the moon landing hoax belongs, but I'm not arguing with it, as most cons. theorists drape their theories in "pretend" science.  Just discussing, is all... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 15:55, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * How would you want to handle things like the Essays? Sub-catagories are fine by me. Tmtoulouse 15:59, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Do what you can with it, I got a headache so I am heading home. I will check in later tonight. Thanks. Tmtoulouse 16:04, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, essays are already in cat essay, and the essay space. But any that fit into other categories should be put in them, too, right?  Ditto debates, recipes, etc.  After your headache goes away, maybe we ought to look at all the cats and the wanted cats, and see if they can be sifted down into good ones. Hope you feel better! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 17:14, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I am so not motivated right now............my main goal was to turn the pseudoscience cat page into basically a portal, so I wanted as many related topics in there as possible, subcategories are probably better than what i was doing, or maybe we do a totally different page for the portal? Tmtoulouse 23:32, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, screw work, we should be basking in the success of that Behe piece. If this site can generate something like that every couple of days, we can worry about cats later.  people seem to really like the sis by side thing, it lets them really contribute without having to write a whoel article.  By the way, I think HG's comment in there should go at the bottom - on the left side, with my comment to it's right.  Hmmm, maybe I'll go do that now.  Hint, they both start with "NOTE". headache any better? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 23:38, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

curious
If I replace the main page with vandalism, will it work? If yes, will you let me this once? Bohdan 23:36, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * You have to wandalize the template behind it, and there are several sub templates. It will survive in direct proportion to its funninnnenninness, I mean, Lulz. Hell, your daddy does it every other night when he's playing sandbox, why shouldn't you? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 23:42, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * If you ask permission first, I'm not sure it qualifies as vandalism, does it? --<font face="Monaco,Consolas,Courier New,Courier,Fixed">jtl talk 23:43, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I give up. Bohdan 23:44, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * The most terrifying vandals strike when least expected! How does it feel to be a tewwowist? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 23:47, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

Behe quote miner
Sorry if I struck a nerve. I think Behe sounded very rational. I think your main beef with Behe may lay with how others hold him up as a hero, and not with Behe himself. Considering he doesn't believe in a young Earth and does believe in Evolution, and is merely expressing healthy scientific skepticism about random mutations leading to useful adaptations, what is wrong with Behe? That he his making money selling books to creationists? Heart ♥  Gold tx 00:13, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * No, that he is lying. And a tool.  "Skepticism" is often invoked by people who wish to ignore part of science, especially evolution.  But they aren't skeptics, they are just tools of the fundamentalist movement to replace our republic with a theocracy.  (Ironically, although not quite on this topic, biblical literalists argue for skepticism about science... hmm, but what about their book that has no original sources extant?)
 * Yes, he sounds "rational" - that is one of the hallmarks of pseudoscience. The other is not being science.
 * But, thanks for asking!  Did you see how I moved our "NOTE"s? Do you mind? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 00:24, 22 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I know many fundementalists who do not want a theocracy. Freedom of religion is important.  Freedom from the religion of evolutionism is also important.  I.D. is just a way to balance the evolutionists.  I don't mind the notes.  Heart  ♥  Gold tx 00:26, 22 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Behe's ideas are VERY strange. He accepts common descent not evolution. He is a fan of the "micro" distinction. He basically believes that God is constantly intervening in weird ways. He actually believes that God is swooped in and made malaria drug resistant. This is not science. Behe is also a total fraud, check out his Kitzmiller testimony. Tmtoulouse 00:19, 22 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Today, he said it could be God, it could be E.T., or it could be something else. I thought his testimony helped Kitzmiller turn out favorable to the evolutionists?  Behe might be an evolutionist mole.  Heart  ♥  Gold tx 00:26, 22 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Its the angry turtles. Tmtoulouse 00:31, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah... I have a lot of trouble respecting unfounded superstition, myself. I might be at the  extreme of certain viewpoints here on RW in that regard... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 00:36, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

stop. now
dont revert my vandalism! Thats blockable. Bohdan 20:28, 22 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Only if you use colors. Tmtoulouse 20:29, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * wait, a vandalism quota? I dont like the sound of this....Bohdan 20:30, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * A creativity quota perhaps. Tmtoulouse 20:31, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I get the felling my vandalism isnt appreciated. Is that really true? Bohdan 20:32, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * We are just encouraging you to take it up to the next level, tough love Bohdan, tough love. Tmtoulouse 20:34, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I'll see what I can do. Bohdan 20:36, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Neon colors really pwn! Tmtoulouse 20:37, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

Here's a hint, Bohdan - look carefully at what I did to GL's sig above. Pick your colors, your sizes, and your fonts and images with care and style, and leave a lasting impression. Something people will want to archive ;) <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:44, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * You haven't explained why you reverted my pwning of jtl. I thought it was a good pwn. Bohdan 20:49, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Because I found it (and because, well, see tmt's comments above). Just as GL reverted my messing up your pages before you saw them. If you want someone not to revert obvious vandalism, you gotta let them know. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:51, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Wait, someone reverted my page?!? Bohdan 20:52, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah I think I remember doing something to that effect. G[[Image:Hammer and Sickle text.svg]]dlessLiberal 15:03, 23 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Reverted, perverted, whatever. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 20:55, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

Once again, pwned!
 * let me pwn that HG and tmtoulouse then block me for a while. Bohdan resident vandal
 * let me pwn that HG and tmtoulouse then block me for a while. Bohdan resident vandal


 * Marks for initiative, Bohdan, but I expect to see something a little more creative in the future. But keep up the good work. Godspeed! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 04:08, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

How do I archive?
How do I put that whole chunk of garbage on my talk page in new file?


 * You know how red links make it so you can make a new page? Here's how to make a red link on your talk page.  Type: user talk:YOU/archiveX which will make a red link to a sub file of your talk page.  When you click on it (do you use tabbed browsing?  A new tab works great for this), it will open it and you're editing it.  Now also open you talk page to edit, and cut what should be archived and paste it in the new file.  Watch out for "current" conversations, out of respect for subhumans.  When you're done, there will be little or nothing left on your talk page, except the link the archive.  The archive will contain all the stuff you moved.  Save both.  If you are concerned about edit conflicts, first, edit your talk page to say this at the top (and save it): "I am archiving this page right now, please do not leave comments until this line disappears" so people will know. I hope this was clear enough for you to batter your way through and get some lernded' dun. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human <font color="#00AA00">be in 21:49, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I ended up using a unique solution. At first I wanted to box up the annoying rant, but i wrapped it up and archived it alone instead.--PalMD-yada yada 23:33, 1 June 2007 (CDT)