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 * 1) Questionably missional given it's an an unscientific mainstream nonreligious nonmedia topic; fails to address conspiracist claims and supports claims of bribery; only looks at Democratic supers; would be easily merged into Primary Election. 22:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Are there GOP supers? only the members of the RNC (168 members) & state chairman which, as I understand it, was the the same (168 members) among Democrats before the Superdelegate innovation. nobsPat Nixon for President 00:29, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There are 437 unpledged Republican delegates, which includes the 168 that you mentioned, which take up about 18% of the total delegate count at the convention. Unlike Dem Supers, they don't come from every state, however, only from some. Trump was in a minor uproar over PA having so many unpledged delegates, because 54 of their 71 delegrates are unbound. They take up roughly the same percentage of the delegate count as supers, but don't get as much attention. Overall, the Republican nomination process is profoundly much less democratic than the Democrat's, if Trump was running on the Dem side he could have been much more easily beaten and if Hillary was a Republican she'd have clinched the nomination in March, probably. Hentropy (talk) 05:04, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Gimme a cite on the 437. If what you say has any validity, it makes Superdelegates all the more missional as a study of undemocratic authoritarianism. nobsTrump/Sanders 2016 13:28, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The link you provided is bogus. There is no information remotely resembling what you stated above at ballotopedia. nobsTrump/Sanders 2016 17:31, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Hahaha. Nice try, Rob. Typhoon (talk) 12:18, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. ya know I feel this is one of my better works. It's been more than 36 years in the making. I moved to Minneapolis from Wisconsin in 1979 when Don Fraser (of the McGovern-Fraser Commission) was Mayor and at the same time the DNC sued the state of Wisconsin. I had a friend who worked on Bronson LaFollette's campaign who defended the state. In 1980, the nite b4 Mondale & Carter got beat by Reagan, I was at the airport to welcome Mondale home. Stood about 5 feet in front of the podium where he spoke (the Secret Service check out my Super 8 camera to see if it could fire a projectile). So I'm well aware of the issues and background. nobsTrump/Sanders 2016 03:40, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) More nobshit. Hipocrite (talk) 12:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * 1) An excellent example of party bigwigs making the primaries into a big-ass farce. Most people here seem to be OK with them cause these supers are favoring Hillary.--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 17:34, 19 May 2016 (UTC) 17:34, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Bernie's trying to woo them away, now  19:08, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * None of them have voted yet so their endorsements aren't exactly important. Supers should vote for candidates who win their state like the electoral college does.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 19:15, 19 May 2016 (UTC) 19:15, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) This was requested and will probably come up again in the future. It is fairly convoluted to even have them. I think that this could be merged but I think it would lose some of its info due to trimming.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 19:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC) 19:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Keep and enshrine in the Library of Congress. nobs#NeverHillary 00:04, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) There's probably missionality in this.--JorisEnter (talk) 08:53, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) the article needs lots of polishing but with hard work it can serve the mission, by revealing the corruption of the Yankee two-party autocracy.Tuxer (talk) 03:22, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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 * Is this the Bernie/Hillary edit war coming here too? - David Gerard (talk) 23:15, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Doubtful.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 23:28, 18 May 2016 (UTC) 23:28, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Move to essay space until some poor chump volunteers to fact-check it. RobS' relationship with reality is rocky at best, and downright acrimonious when it comes to politics and history (cf. the "New Ordeal"). Robledo (talk) 21:15, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well whud choo expect? Just like the destruction of the Library of Alexandria, the New Ordeal has been lost to posterity. nobsBern baby bern 19:36, 22 June 2016 (UTC)