User talk:Nx/Archive3

Vandaled IP
Hello, it's me, Arthropleura. NR blocked me for an hour after I reverted his edits to my userspace. Would there be the possibilty of making me impossible to block, since all too often I am blocked on a whim for long periods of time? --67.159.45.96 16:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He blocked you for calling him an idiot. --  Nx / talk 16:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, those edits were not in your userspace when NR made them. --  Nx / talk 16:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm in a meeting and don't have a lot of time to deal with this but I'll briefly explain. The bar pages are not Arthur's userspace except by fiat, which isn't appropriate. It's not for Arthur to unilaterally determine the content of a mainspace page that several of us spent hours having fun with last night. I blocked him for 5 minutes while I was (doing a bad job of) cleaning up his sanitization and Arthropleurization of these pages. I then unblocked him within mere minutes. I blocked Arthur for an hour when he came back to blank my userpage with personal insults. He's now done this several times from several IPs after being blocked and vandal binned. I don't have time for this right now. Will be happy to talk more about this in a bit when I get out of my meeting. 16:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

First of al, it was vandalism, not 'fun,' Second of all, I made it, and if no one else actually wants it for anything besides vandalism, then it is my right to move it to my user space. Oh, and your user talk page is not your property, and I did not blank it, merely eliminated a redirect. --67.159.54.26 16:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You may have started it, but that doesn't make it yours. You blanked the previous content and replaced it with this. You can have your own personal bar in your own userspace, but you can't delete the one from mainspace. --  Nx / talk 16:32, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Vandalism has been archived. If anyone wants to vandalize it, that will be acceptable on one condition: they will allow me to archive it and put things back to normal. -- 16:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess you're correct about the blanking, since I failed at properly archiving my talk page and left it only half redirected. But what's the point of arguing about any of this? You lose. It is not your "right" to move any mainspace page to your userspace just because you take some personal pride of ownership of something that's simply not yours. Sure, you could do it if there was a consensus, but I believe this was already at least cursorily discussed and that the emerging consensus was that the bar pages are not your property. Last night's edits were not vandalism merely because you wish to call them that. I'm sorry you don't like how this is turning out. 16:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Call it whatever you want. It's been archived. Now, the next time this happens I'll just clean it up, okay? No major deal. -- 16:38, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is too hard to deal with on an iphone. Please just put things back they way they were this morning. You're just dead wrong. Please stop escalating and arguing. 16:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The place was a mess. I most certainly will clean it up, and I am not deleting or censoring anything. -- 16:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is eating up the recent changes dialog to the point where it has ceased to be funny. Why not just leave the entire thing alone for at least 24 hours, both of you take a chill pill and deal with it tomorrow. 16:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is my 4th post on the subject in like an hour. Get over yourself. 16:52, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox2
Your sandbox is upsetting Pibot, do you need it much longer? 12:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll remove it, I have it on my local mw so I don't need it here, sorry about that. --  Nx / talk 12:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That okay. I think it was scanning the page and couldn't find the template so it was chucking a fit. 13:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Your fetish for rounded boxes
Have you consulted anyone over this? 17:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * [[image:Square.gif]] -- Nx  / talk 17:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I like it, it matches the mainpage, which I copied from some stuff Ryan did on his userpage, which he copied from... Is there a way for people who hate it to monobook.js it away? 23:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Use a crappy browser that doesn't support border-radius...alternatively, add a class and then remove the border-radius in monobook.css with !important. For example:




 * I'm rounded


 * then add


 * to monobook.css. -- Nx  / talk 00:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Perfect
You already updated the docs. You're almost as fast as CaptureBot. 21:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's actually something I never tested. -- Nx  / talk 21:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm also going to steal your idea and turn Capturebot's sandbox into a general link capturing place. -- Nx  / talk 21:40, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Capturebot improvements
I was thinking a little about fixing the memory usage and article length issues in capturebot. Seems to me a divide and conquer approach would probably work well. Render clips only a few hundred pixels long at a time and write them to the filesystem uncompressed (windows bitmaps? PNM?) then stitch them together and compress with imagemagick as postprocessing. I'll have a go modifying the webkit2png script, but I'm still waiting on qt-webkit to be installed (on dependency 26 of 48, and one of the things still to be installed is qt itself which'll take forever. Yawn.) -- 11:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Won't imagemagick use up the same ammount of memory though? Doesn't it uncompress the images when joining them? -- Nx  / talk 12:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, there's no need to have the whole image in memory just to compress (or decompress) it, just a small buffers worth. It's a two pass process, the first pass to build an index and the second pass to compress the data. -- 12:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I just tried  where both test1 and test2 are screen caps of Pan arabism (truncated at 32766 pixels). After an initial spike of over 700 megabytes, it went down to 500 while combining, which is the size of both images uncompressed (webkit2png needs about 250 megs to capture them) (and the result was blank where the other image should've been) --  Nx  / talk 12:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hrm, interesting. Anyway, I shall experiment. -- 12:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Could you upload the image you're using so I can compare memory usages? Thanks. -- 12:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Here it is, thumbnails couldn't be generated, but if you click full resolution the image will be there: http://www.conservapedia.com/Pan-Arabism -- Nx  / talk 12:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you...
...for fixing my signature. 13:17, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. -- Nx  / talk 13:19, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Fail
As Π has already pointed out, you already have articles that violate your new standard. Please read the debate page before posting. Rpeh 19:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Leaving and never coming back
I hope you come back soon... 23:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * WTF! 03:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Shame the only extended interaction I had with you was about my boring-as-shit signature. See ya around! 13:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your skillful ideas and contributions - and for making Conservapedia:An illustrated guide readable 07:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Knew you couldn't keep away
Hi there nice to see you back. I must say it is quite today, edits I made hours ago are still in the RC list. 14:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My will is weak... Nx 14:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back. Aand I hope you like the little orange message. --BobNot Jim 14:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, though I can't promise to be as active as before Nx 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nobody wants you to be on hand 24/7, all we want is to see you once in a while. I was despairing for Capturebot when you left ;_; . EddyP 15:00, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Capturebot2 runs on a new botserver now, and in case it crashes there's a little application that will kick it in the butt and start it again. Nx 15:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there an application that kicks Nx in the butt when he's stayed away from RW long enough!? 16:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah dude, it's called Human. Nice to see you back Nx! 16:39, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back to my pet request
Can you engineer it so additions to the AotW show up on recent changes? Please :) ? 02:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

MW query
Is there a specialpage to see if any IPs are blocked from even looking at CP? 09:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, MW can't block IPs or users from viewing pages AFAIK (although there are some extensions, but those are more like blocking viewing for everyone, not specific IPs) Nx 09:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Presumably, however, you can away do magic on the server to prevent them from viewing it, but I doubt that would be publicly available. 21:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Obviously, but I highly doubt it, unless "computer security expert" TK got access to the server. Nx (talk) 09:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Voting options
Do we have the ability to do multi-choice voting so that you can only vote/change a vote for one item in a group? I could imagine it would be useful for things like measuring the number of people with a particular viewpoint or characteristic (e.g. age-ranges) where you would only want to people to select one answer. 11:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The only mw extension I could find is inadequate, however I could extend wigo like I did with sliders (sliders are essentially multichoice, it's just the result that is displayed that's different) Nx (talk) 08:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Multichoice voting test Option one lorem ipsum Option two dolor sit amet Option three bla yakety schmackety

Things to note: Votes depend on the order of the options, don't reorder them once voting has begun. The option you choose is bolded, and also gets class "myvote", which allows you to style it via common.css or your monobook.css (e.g. make it different color, etc.) Nx (talk) 10:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Added columns. They too can be styled, classes are: "votecolumnback" for the grey background with the black border, and "votecolumnfront" for the blue foreground. Remember to use !important since stuff in style attribute takes precedence. Nx (talk) 11:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Your not kidding. Last year's Conservapedia Day Awards killed the server. 10:24, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So you have to refresh to see the column change? 11:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay works now. 11:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) No, javascript should do it, but you probably have to reload the javascript with ctrl-r. Nx (talk) 11:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is good, I like it. Does the width (potential vote max) scale as votes pile up?  20:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Bug
If you stick in something longer than one word into the options it stacks all the word on top of each other. 05:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Gah, serves me right for not testing stuff properly. It gets broken up because the bars have higher priority for the space. Nx (talk) 06:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The quick and dirty fix btw is to use nbsp Nx (talk) 06:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've made the columns fixed width 220px now. If anyone has a better idea to format it, suggestions are welcome. Recommend you try messing with the html source of this page first Nx (talk) 06:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Classes

 * When will this be fully explained somewhere (after it works perfectly, of course)? When you say "They too can be styled, classes are: "votecolumnback" for the grey background with the black border, and "votecolumnfront" for the blue foreground." you've lost most people, and of course this is only on your talk page. Needs to be clearly explained via a help page link.  Do we even have a help page link for our various polling corruptions?  06:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * See this edit. Nx (talk) 06:48, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Ignoring you answer for a moment, you are working with table cells on the poll thing right now? Results=ugly. Let cell one be say 45%, then the other cells can use up the rest. Cell 2 total = 5% cell three "vote"= 5% cell 4, "results" = 45%. I whine now, this used to be so much easier working with Trent. But now I'm working with you. So I will try to learn how to interact with your work and help you make it pretty and completely functional. 06:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You answer "see this edit" carries no meaning that I can see, and I'm no noob. You can't just make stuff that "you" can use that is cool, you gotta make it so "anyone" can just follow the "help page" and make it work on first try.  06:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, I can say fuck it and just rip out the classes. Nx (talk) 06:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Might make sense to keep it simple. Last version I saw on the Bar was playing pretty well with others, by the way, nice work.  Getting better all the time...  07:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fine then. All customization is out because it is useless. Nx (talk) 07:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You aren't paying attention. Anything you can explain clearly in a help file is A-OK.  Anything that you're the only one who knows how to work is useless.  Quit being a techno-uber-geek and remember that years from now, people will be trying to use what you write, and the instructions (and defaults) need to be clear and understandable.  Look at how simple the "vote" extension wound up being.  We don't need seventeen custom colors, we need things that are bulletproof, and work, and can't be broken, and look good on all screen resolutions. If you want to talk about this so we aren't crossing swords, but working together, email me for my phone #, or email me yours (with timezone preferences, etc.).  07:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's useless, so I've removed it. Nx (talk) 07:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * @Human [[image:You're TK.jpg]]. 11:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Customization
Open your monobook.css. To customize the text of the option you have voted for, type the following:

then start inserting css styling between the brackets, the same way you would do in a span's style attribute. However, add !important to every property before the semicolon, e.g. instead of "color:red;" type "color:red !important;" For example:

To customize the "filled" part of the column (blue by default), add the following:

and again fill it out with whatever you wish:

For the "empty" part (grey background), add this

and fill it out, e.g.:

There, that's the best I can do. -- Nx  / talk 13:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Intercom
Could you fix the typo in the display of old messages, I can't find the MediaWiki page that does. Thanks. 04:05, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean the three s-es in message? Ok, I'll fix that Nx (talk) 04:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikicode
A question- If there is a Special:MYPAGE that sends you to your userpage, is there also some featurethat will send you to the "block self" page- like Special:Blockme or something? Thanks. -- 19:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of Nx (talk) 08:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I briefly considered using Template:USERNAME to embed it into a URL, but it didn't work... 09:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Fonts
Works on IE now. 09:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but not on Firefox. Nx (talk) 09:48, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Works on both now. It looks better in IE, finer lines and stuff. 09:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, the order is important, otherwise Firefox tries to use the eot and fails (this is probably a bug, Safari uses the ttf since it can't use eot). I don't see a difference between FF and IE. Nx (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

SQL & api question
I don't know whether you can help me there, but I'd like to hear your opinion on this problem - it isn't urgent, so enjoy your time-out until August ;-) 12:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll look into it. Nx (talk) 13:29, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Firefox
Do you know the solution to the use of the wrong font in Ubuntu 9.04? 14:33, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? Nx (talk) 14:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Having downloaded the firefox-3.5 package from APT, I have found that it uses a different default font than firefox 3.0. 14:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My talk page looks identical in both 3.0 and 3.5. Open both versions and compare the font preferences. Nx (talk) 14:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Screenshot. Note the difference in font, and no, changing the font preferences does not work. 16:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Try this Nx (talk) 16:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Did they ever fix that heap spray vulnerability? Was switching to 3.5 worth it? &mdash; Signed, by: Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 16:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean the much publicized vulnerability with the new javascript engine? They fixed that in 3.5.1. It was definitely worth it for me, since FF3.0 was giving me horrible slowdowns (and I like playing with the newest toys :) ) Nx (talk) 16:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Diverse thanks. 16:45, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thou art most welcome Nx (talk) 16:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The central question is: will this be supported by the majority of modern browsers? 17:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If you convert the font to eot, you get support on internet explorer starting from version 4. Firefox 3.5 supports it, Safari 4 supports it but apparently doesn't like some fonts. Chrome should support it, but when I tried it it didn't work on Chrome 3. Opera 10 supports it. Worst case, your signature is rendered in the default font. Nx (talk) 17:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * On an aside, how can you run Chrome but not IE? 17:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Obviously, I can run both on Windows, it's the booting into Windows part that's the problem. Nx (talk) 17:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

RWW
Can you re-add the ability to alter the Access group; I want to edit the MW pages. 22:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Nx (talk) 06:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

CSS importing
Jeeves is mouthing off about the @font-face thing, claiming it clutters Common.css. Is there a way to import CSS files into other CSS files, like importscript in JS? 21:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not what I'm saying at all, and including another CSS file wouldn't fix it. You may want you signature in some weird font, but I don't. To me, your signature just looks like semi-random giberish, because my default font presumably doesn't have whatever glyphs you're using. If you want to do personal tweaks to rationalwiki, fine, but do them in your own private spaces where it doesn't bother the rest of us. -- 21:34, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well then, take it up with Nx, since it was his idea. 21:37, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's possible. The point of having it in common.css is so that others can see it in that font. Nx (talk) 21:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Capturebot & categories
You're probably going to stick needles in an effigy of myself for asking, but I've noticed that cb2 categorises CP screenshots in " Category:Conservapedia screencaps" & "Category:August 2009 Conservapedia screencaps". There's no need for both is there? The former should merely be the 'holding' category for the month-by-month categories. --PsyGremlinWhut? 13:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's how Capturebot1 did it, plus Capturebot2 doesn't automatically create the monthly categories. Ok, I'll fix that now that you've brought it up. Nx (talk) 14:01, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've modified him to create the monthly categories automatically and removed the redundant category. Nx (talk) 14:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You are, as always, a star! --PsyGremlinWhut? 14:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sig
Why'd you change it? 17:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't feel the need to have a complicated, flashy signature. Nx (talk) 17:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

User-config.py
Do I need to generate that again or can I just copy the on I have got? 11:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you can use the one you have. -- Nx  / talk 11:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay I'll move all that straight across then. We'll find out soon enough :) 11:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Have I got everything? 11:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, you didn't symlink userinterfaces, and you copied families instead of linking them (that's not really a problem, but symlinking means only one file has to be updated) -- Nx  / talk 11:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay I see, I'll fix that. 11:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've done it now. -- Nx  / talk 11:40, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I should just copy capturebot2. 11:40, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's ok now, I'll try running it. -- Nx  / talk 11:41, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry before I was ECed I suggested we set it up to run at 12:00 UTC (in about 18 minutes) everyday. 11:42, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, slight problem, pywikipedia doesn't support captchas, so I'll have to work around that by manually copying the cookies... -- Nx  / talk 11:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this Pibot being desysoped? 11:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it's just the standard captcha. I pasted the password twice, so I got the captcha because of a failed login attempt. Is running now, time to set up a cron job -- Nx  / talk 11:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * How is that done? Also can I run Perl scripts on this? 11:56, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know :) I'll have to look at the manual again, I forgot the details. As for perl, I'll install perl, then just dump the stuff into a separate directory and run it as you would from your home computer (you'll need to ssh into the server) -- Nx  / talk 11:58, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So is it set to run every day? 12:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not yet, I'm still trying to figure out if it's logged in or not. -- Nx  / talk 12:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems to be working with about 5 minutes between a job though. 12:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's because when I logged out of RW on my home computer, it crashed on the server. I had to disable captchas on login temporarily to log it in from the server. Seems to be ok now -- Nx  / talk 12:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, upload your perl stuff into a separate directory inside ~bots -- Nx  / talk 12:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, I like Perl because I know it better. As for Pibot it has been slow the last couple of days, maybe there is not a lot to archive. So in the mean time I just navigate there is a ssh console and run it as before? 12:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no need for that, I'll set it up as a cron job in a moment. -- Nx  / talk 12:10, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for all your help. All this automated web stuff is a bit beyond my experience, I have never needed more than a bit of basic HTML before. 12:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've placed a script into /etc/cron.daily called pibot that runs another script in ~bots/Pibot called runarchive. runarchive changes the directory to ~bots/Pibot (needed for pywikipediabot to find its stuff), then executes archivebot.py with Template:Talkpage/Pibot as parameter. Do the same for perl, just create a small script that executes the bot script, then call it from /etc/cron.daily/pibot. -- Nx  / talk 12:24, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks once again you have been a big help. Not having to be on here everyday at the same time will be a lot better. 12:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. -- Nx  / talk 12:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, checking its contributions Pibot didn't seem to run last night, do you know what happened to it? Did it hit an error or something like that? 07:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen that too. I'm going to try it manually, then see what went wrong. -- Nx  / talk 07:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, fixed it, I forgot to set up the python path, so it couldn't find wikipedia.py. I thought I set it up globally for capturebot2, but I didn't. Also, pywikipedia doesn't like it when user-config.py is owned by someone other that the user running the script - in this case root was running the script, so I added a setguid command to run the script under the bot user. If you add any other scripts to /etc/cron.daily/python, do the same. -- Nx  / talk 08:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll take a look. Thanks. 09:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Problem?
I think the pages you moved here over-wrote the old versions. 23:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That was the point, to merge the history. I'm going to move the pre-crash content into archives. -- Nx  / talk 23:28, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It merged, but for some reason the "first" teflon edits over-wrote what was on the page before. I fixed my talk page. WIGO CP is another obvious example. Oh well, I'll stop interrupting and let you fix things up.  23:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a side effect of how mediawiki works. Each edit save the entire page -- not just the difference. -- Nx  / talk 23:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course, thanks. Things seem to be gradually "healing" as I watch, though...  23:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think I did all the talk pages, hope I didn't leave out anything. Now I'll vote-ify the wigos -- Nx  / talk 00:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. I'm glad you want to keep the fake votes - I suspect we should remove the images from the "vote" template though?  Also, is there any way to automatically move what was overwritten on people's talk pages to archives?  Should we just use the intercom and ask each person to do their own?  Oh, and one last thing, are you going to be able to automagically unprotect them all?  00:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just explain it to the three or four people who had their talk pages merged. I think they're not protected, although the page history entry was copied, the actual action wasn't. Log out and try editing them. -- Nx  / talk 00:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No need to log out, if they say "release" at the top, they need to be released. Oh, btw, where did that Great Meltdown or whatever it's called article end up?  00:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * They didn't say release. The Great Exodus -- Nx  / talk 00:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Hey, why can't we make the fake votes visible?  Use the "vote" template and make it say "(Votes at TEFL: nnn)"?  00:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * We can, I just didn't know what to do with them. It's pretty simple with the wikEd gadget's regexp search&replace. -- Nx  / talk 00:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)