RationalWiki talk:Discord/Archive1

lol
is this necessary? don't think we got one for fb or tw 17:24, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

August 19th
I have to wait two fucking months to appeal a ban that was bullshit in the first place. There's no such thing as due process there, I never got a chance to defend myself, and I get stonewalled no matter how much I improve my behavior. Why are you people doing this to me?! — Oxyaena   Harass  18:22, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You people have ignored numerous posters who have corroborated the fact that I am a changed woman, and you accuse me of lying when I say otherwise. I ask for one more fucking chance, and I get called a liar. Shame on you. — Oxyaena   Harass  18:24, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * sigh. 19:57, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * At least I didn't blow up on the Saloon Bar again. — Oxyaena   Harass  21:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Conservapedia?
Based on the amount of members I'm seeing, this must be a mockery discord, right? Or is EK a fundie all of a sudden? Same question for the other 2 (r/wikipedia & Irrationalwiki) discords. --Tinribmancer (talk) 14:58, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * there was over 150 members in the conservapedia discord at its peak and it has declined a lot but it would be a mistake to think ts a mockery. EK (talk) 13:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

I got kicked (or banned)
A mod accused me of being a troll and then kicked/banned me from the server. No idea what she's talking about. Can someone here help refresh my memory? Hoosayne (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe your nym can help you figure that out. — Oxyaena Harass  21:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Demcord edits
Can someone fill me in why the edit by Idkidks was reverted and then the page was protected? What's going on with the IPs earlier editing this page? 20:02, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * people from one demcord server are attempting to remove the link or vilify the other demcord because they hate the server owner and some staff. EK (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The person in question isn't part of the IP brigade. Idkidks got permission from the RationalWiki Discord, while dropped the protectionagreeing with Idkidks, to make the edits. I assume GrammarCommie didn't remember Idkidks from the conversation earlier.  21:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I will allow their changes to the demcord link as a compromise I guess, but you aren't editing the description of new demcord (which I mod) as proposed because the proposed changes are a blatant attempt to make it look bad. EK (talk) 21:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what part is just to make the server look bad. It's documented that the new server was created partially because the owner didn't like the strict moderation on ableist remarks (particularly use of "retarded"). After they created the new server, they proceeded to freely use "retard" as well allowing a few other people (also there's documented use of "autistic" as an insult and other epithets toward people with mental illnesses), hence the "lax on ableism" comment. 21:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * out of context comments from months ago are not evidence. EK (talk) 21:58, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Out of context? Then what's (screenshots)? This is all from the server owner. 22:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing the rword thing, nor any evidence the server was created to have lesser standards, and those comments are primarily literal, referring to things which are literally autistic. I don't see the problem. EK (talk) 22:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * While I don't think "being freely to use "retarded" is a primary reason the server has been created, it seems important for the server owner to mention that people are allowed to say "retarded". Also, the enforcement beyond that initial post is spotty, as I've seen it used to demean anyone. I don't know but I still don't see justification for this), and they allow a user named "Clibtard Mario". As for the latter "literally autistic" defense, I have no idea how a picture can be "literally autistic" especially if it's apparently shared for cringe reactions and there's a responding comment that uses the phrase "mentally ill spastic". 22:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * the person who said "mentally ill spastic" was Juve, who was literally banned like 3 hours later for his behaviour. I don't see the issue. EK (talk) 23:27, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I see that it has been appropriately handled, which is great and proved me wrong, but I still doubt your defense of the use of "autistic" as an insult. The only justification is that they're old posts and perhaps users don't do this any more, which is very plausible. As for the "retard" and "mentally ill" as insults, I'm still in doubt about categorizing the server as "ableism" rather than insults but I also understand there are other users that are put off from them. 00:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * why not just remove both links to get the drama over with - 4/23/2020, 23:41 UTC
 * That's also... consideration. 00:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

New guild?
Seems like there's a new guild being linked in the sidebar that is different from the one on this page and the one that up until this point is/was the rationalwiki main guild and is still referred to as such on this page? New invite seems to be this one, which leads to a guild called "RatWiki Support Chat" rather than what it was before. Can someone fill me in on if I've missed any discussion or votes on this matter? (I checked the Saloon bar and the Mod noticeboard). The Crow (talk) 21:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * that's existed for over a year, its a guild specifically for ratwiki content and technical support, mostly technical tbh. It does not have an independent community it's purely site related. EK (talk) 21:56, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, I understand. Would you mind adding it to this Project page? I think it's telling that it only has 22 users (at the time of writing) and at least I was not aware of it's existence until these modifications were done to the sidebar, since it's not linked on this page. Maybe put it directly under the community discord or something? The Crow (talk) 22:02, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The guild owned by FCP has very limited connection with site affairs now, I didn't think it relevant plus it's confusing for people. If you two like I can put both in there easily enough. Let me know and I'll check back later (I'll probably add it). 22:06, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I couldn't tell you either way on this (not all that involved with the original to say much on that subject matter). I wouldn't object to replacing it, if it's as disconnected as you say it is, but I imagine there's people beyond me who have relevant opinions on that who are more involved with that Discord and the new one. Otherwise, both seems fine to me (or just shift the original to the other guilds section if it's gonna be replaced, since I suppose it's stil to some extent RW adjacent?) The Crow (talk) 22:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'll go with that. Sounds about right to me. 22:25, 23 April 2020 (UTC)