Debate:Good Without God

God is good. But does one have to be good with God? Can one be good without God?

Guntom (talk) 08:08, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * At the risk of troll feeding - if you get your morality from your "invisible friend" then I worry for you. Doxys Midnight Runner (talk) 08:20, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Three claims/questions, three answers:
 * "God is good." - Argument by assertion, dismissed.
 * "But does one have to be good with God?" - No, obviously (any cursory glance at history or the present confirms this).
 * " Can one be good without God?" - Yes, obviously (again, look at history and/or the present).
 * Well, that was quick... ScepticWombat (talk) 10:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * How good can a God who kills all the firstborns of Egypt because their Pharaoh pissed him off be? QuantumDude (talk) 03:14, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I don't believe in God but I still donate to charity and take care to not kill people. Doublethink (talk) 19:25, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

You can't be good WITH god
Since we're injecting fresh hot takes into this old debate, I believe it literally impossible to be a good person if you offload 100% of your judgement of morality onto a third party, be it god or another person. Once someone else is making your moral decisions for you, you're not moral or immoral, you're amoral, like a tool. A hammer in someone elses' hands. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:34, 16 November 2018 (UTC)