User talk:Cracker/WIGO

Karajerk makes an uncited, vague reference in regards to something that happened 27 years ago. This is not going to sit well with smart people at all.


 * Critique: yeah it was stoopid and vague and unreffed but it was on a debate page. WIGO score 3/5

According to CP, atheism is a religion, but Andy (and thus CP) claims not to "discriminate based on religion" - yeah, right!


 * Critique: They allow atheists there...you know until someone bans them. WIGO score 4/5

Bad reviews for Expelled:No Intelligence Allowed? No problem! We'll just 'improve' the article and do the totalitarian state thing. UPDATE: A publication must have a higher circulation than Conservapedia has page views to be approved by Andy.


 * Critique: And the assemblies of God church bulletin will be in favor of E:NIA too, big whoop. Barely WIGOable WIGO Score 1/5

Tell us about it.


 * Critique: A note to look at the edit summary might need to be included since it's not self evident. User Page edit. YAWN. WIGO score I'd give the ol'  myself but then that's me. 0/5

Ed confirms the two-tier rule structure. Shocker.


 * Critique: Nice concise if somewhat predictable, okay for n00bs WIGO score 3/5

"You keep saying that "evolution is science"—and by "evolution" I mean here [... "] - Lovely redefinition that is quickly followed by a lengthy rant about sedimentary rock, Dark Matter, and planet Vulcan.


 * Critique:Interesting (if one can get through the "wall of words") insight into YECer-type woo. Solid. 5/5

Don't call people 'Smart Aleck' - call a spade a spade and just call them a Prick instead!


 * Critique: Good candidate explaining the "do as I say "philosophy" behind the sysops' (ab)use of their powerz. WIGO score 4/5

Reasonable discourse? We'll have none of that, thank you very much and Godspeed! PRE-UPDATE: Yeah..both of them.


 * Critique: Though I care not for the subject (they ARE going to take E:NIA's side on this) the presentation is nice, concise with just a hint of snark. FULL DISCLOSURE CЯacke ® added the PRE-UPDATE part, since it was too weak as a WIGO on it's own but I thought it nifty. WIGO score 4/5

Thousands of evolutionists will see Expelled on Day 1, and then they will all join CP to wandalize the article. Sure thing, Ed. Sure thing. Stand back!


 * Critique:Funny, I coulda swore nothing like this was on the page when I added the above PRE UPDATE. Still don't think it's strong enough for it's own entry. 2/5 (nice snark)

Ed's going to try science! Oooooh. Mixed results.


 * Critique:Good thing it's concise cause it's BORING. 2/5

I think Ed Poor has snapped, blocking then talking to himself.


 * Critique:Not WIGO worthy.

With practically no non-sysop left to bully, Ed Poor rips into TerryH's article, but later feels remorse.


 * Critique:Only good since EP's usual stub quote "articles" are infamous for their...brevity...to be charitable, that it was better written than Ed's tripe AND was championed by YEC wooster TerryH...bonus points. 5/5

Evolutionist style is here! Just think, Schlafly now knows about Liberals, Feminists and Evolutionists... How about something he's really familiar with... like Mama's Boy Style or I'm F***ing Insane Style? (Reading it closely makes me suspect that TerryH is a satirist. Possibly an unconscious one.)|


 * Critique:Good entry though a bit wordy. And we're RW fer chrissakes, if you meaning FUCKING say "FUCKING". 4/5


 * Critique:Woulda been good if this was a slow week/month but it's busier than a Texas whore house at branding time. 3/5

Concise, dammit!


 * Critique:Ibid as the one above. 3/5

Ed broke yet another irony meter.


 * Critique:That we're dealing with a group of hypocrites, (what is the term for that? gaggle? skewl? murder? lets call it a "snag of hypocrites"), is a given hence irony is going to abound. Ed's point is actually sound (egads!). At least he limits his "articles" to one or two quips AS THE ENTIRE ARTICLE. Still it has a place here. 2/5

Once again, Andy is forced to lay out the Basic Rules of CP for an editor. It's so difficult to get decent editors these days. Wait, you'd like to establish clear standards? As in, a policy that sysops might actually be called out on? Well then, so be it - you're just a waste of Ed's precious time!.


 * Critique:File this one under the "rule by fiat" and "Your user page is your castle (of playing cards)" The comments SHOULD have let us know this was all about quotes on a USER'S page to notch up the bullying factor. Still solid. 4/5

Why is the irony meter reporting NUMBER TOO LARGE ERROR #46617 DIVISION BY ZERO? Ah of course. Karajou tells a new user not to try 'pushing your religious beliefs here'.


 * Critique:It is a Conservative Christian wiki, they ain't no denyin' that...READ: Share your gospel ONLY if it's the exact same one we already have. I don't see any real irony here. And goddamn them new fangled digital irony meters, if analog ain't good enough for youse then...nevermind. 1/5

Tiger Woods: supremely talented professional golfer, or just another negro whose alleged success is the result of liberal interference?


 * Critique:This is what WIGO should oughta be: Concise, snarky (but not too much) and points to a CP link that shows the kookiness that can only be found in conservapedia (and a few rubberized rooms at Bellevue). 5/5

Yes, the kool aid is wearing off of PJR - he's unblocked TomMoore, first blocked for, essentially, calling Ed Poor on his idiocy. Perhaps PJR has come to realize that "making Ed realize his idiocy" shouldn't be a blocking offense.


 * Critique:Sysop hijinks are always welcome fodder for WIGO. Especially when they tend toward the SANE end of things. Coulda used an UPDATE but no matter.

'''Kenservative sings the praise of Fox News for being "fair & balanced" and their being known for treating evangelical and fundamentalist Christians with great respect. The article is locked so it must all be true in a kind of "the truth shall set you free" kind of way. Fox News publish a review of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, apparently a big NO NO at the wacky world of Chicaneopedia. It would seem the "fair & balanced" Fox News isn't all what it is made out to be and the trustworthy encyclopedia can't be trusted. UPDATE:  Allowed,''' with qualifications, by The Boss. MORE: Of course, it's wrong to say "Fox News's Roger Friedman". It must be clarified that he's a liberal who's not really with Fox News. He just writes a bit on their website...


 * Critique:Ax all the bold above and reword it. Over all it's too damned long. "Just the facts ma'am" and snark it up as bit, 7/10

Andy's shameless parsing would make Bill Clinton blush. Just how ambiguous does he think "From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School" is, anyway?


 * Critique: Solid. Show's Schlafly's over reliance on his own opinion as "fact". Andy is the "decider" the same way that George Bush Dick Cheney is, only not quite as dangerous. (Thank the gods). 5/5

After his questions were erased and his intelligence was insulted, MilesM snaps.

One of the perks of being sysop: Being able to lock your talkpage once people start asking questions about your behavior.

There's a chance of libel on the Trusworthy Encyclopedia? No problem, we just have to get a cite from a reliable source. After all, how hard could that be? UPDATE: Not so hard when you completely ignorethe reliable part. Hi Karajou, thanks for reading

Hey, you women out there, Andy knows how to spell your name better than you do.

Tolerance is shown some intolerance over at Conservapedia. And Ed succumbs to the urge to disagree by deleting. Update The revisions continue:

Ah, Niandra... So close, and yet so far.

Really? I don't see the connection. Maybe they just need a few more examples. Update: I see by this that somebody over there is reading my WIGO. I feel ashamed honored.

If there are that few violent criminals, then why, exactly, do you need a largely defensive weapon of gun in the first place?

Sure Bodhan HenryS, let's have Kettleklik follow a non-existent guideline on a site that Andy despises. That'll work. Or is this just more sweeping things under the rug?

More debate from the Assfly: "look up professor Obama's campaign has nothing to do with him being a Senator..." Seeing how dumb that sounds, he just rambles on philosophically I hear Conservapedia can also cure baldness and genital warts... is that true TK?|

Lets take a look at Ed and his Bans for the day shall we? Hmmmm interesting You dare to state a non whitewashed opinion?GONE Who's next? You dare question me? You can just take a walk You vill do nusing vitout my OK So Gootbye God, He's Like a monkey with a mallet|

Ed faces resistance from an invulnerable user, a bosom-buddy of the Schlaflinator who cannot be banned. When forced to argue, defend himself, and face criticism rationally... what will Ed do!? UPDATE - Kettleklick plays with fire.

Schlafly's made up a new Conservapedia Term!!!! It's "Feminist Style"! Feminists, you see, have no sense of humor. Apparently, they don't appreciate the humor behind Andy's butt-pinches.

Deborah fails at reverting wandalism.

I can has writing plan? Also, mai conspiracy theery, let me show u it.

Point: Mr Andy Sir... I think it might be a little hypocritical to mock Obama while claiming that only liberals do that don't you? Counterpoint: No Point: but you're obviously mocking him Counterpoint: NO Point: But look please look Extra Point: I agree, here's why Counterpoint: NO NO NO!!!! (Reader's digest: "Obama falsely claimed that he was a constitutional law professor", no matter what the University of Chicago News Office says!) More: We won't even refer to him as "Senator" if we judge his acts non-senatorial! Again: Liberal Mockery is okay as long as Andy does it "carefully."

Given how much CP sysops rely on doing everything behind closed doors via mails and IMs, it's slightly ironic to see Andy insisting on a public interview.

Andy won't let our poor irony meter recover: Conservapedia, the site that demonizes liberals in every way you can imagine (and then some) presents... "Demonizing conservatives"!

"Please support your claim better here, with quotations" - Well, Andy, maybe you should have actually looked at the source supplied in the stuff you reverted...

Your work isn't ready yet? Well, screw you, hippie! This isn't about what you want!

Looks like somebody caught JM with his hands in the cookie jar, and Assfly actually does something about it. (The photo's been reverted to its unadorned state on the original site.)

Exactly who here is frivolous?

If you're going to bash baseball, at least get your geography straight. Toronto isn't in the US Ahem! But it is (North) American. So there!

Something tells me Conservative will get slapped for his "Gentlemen at another site" messages: After Bohdan's attempt at damage control spectacularly backfired, Bohdan hastily wipes out the section, only to be confronted by a very disillusioned user.

A paragraph scolding a magazine for getting a name wrong... got the name of the magazine wrong.

Apparently, Ed Poor is losing some support at home.

Aww, isn't Kowardjou cute when he stamps his little feet?

WOW. "The atrocities of slavery in America have been widely exaggerated."

John 7:53-8:11 is not a True Scotsman.

Okay, who's Yousoundperfect?

If your two first contribs are on talk pages, you will be perma-banned before having the chance to make mainspace edits. Update: 1 out of 8 edits are in the mainspace? Perma-ban!

If you don't make 50 mistakes a day, you were probably blocked after the first one by a d*** in a sysop suit

Deborah, one of the most prolific editors of late, is blocked for not doing what she's told (naughty girl!).

"Avoid like the plague anything which simply makes some ideological point." My irony meter just burst, thanks to that latest revelation from Lyin' Ed.

A battle of wits with an unarmed sysop.

And finally, they came for the userboxes, repeatedly. And there was no-one left to speak up for me. (It's OK to make fun of Bill Clinton, but not Ronald Reagan. Love that double-standard.)

I'll take "Wait, what?" for 400, Alex: "it's not "cross-dressing" in the homosexual sense - it's just a disguise"

Who cares about Shakespeare, anyway? If nothing links to it, it's easier to delete it than to actually create something that links to it! Erratum: Apparently, it was just either a redirect or a redundant article. The real deal is this concise article.

Welshman unleashes his Parthian Shot. Note that PJR may be on the outs with Schlafly and all the other Elite Cabal of Ignorance at CP, but at least he still gets some love from the rational crowd.UPDATE: A shout-out to HelpJazz, who acknowledges the futility of his quest. UPDATE: AusingP gets blocked for personal remarks by pointing out Ed's personal remarks. UPDATE #3: Same goes for TomMoore and Welshman - three editors contributors banned (FOREVER) for something that was started by Ed Poor. YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Ed gets proactive, tries to cut down on future complaints. Gods below, what a screaming drama queen Joaquín is. Have they installed that fainting couch yet? But then, look at his mentor.

Creationism is perfectly falsifiable! It can be falsified by proving that some part of Jesus' life didn't happen the way the Bible says or by proving that extraterrestrial life exists! (Note: Check the history - it's not parody.) So, you can falsify it if you first prove to be false an unfalsifiable assertion of faith. Folks, you have to get through the hard outer shell of bullshit to get to the juicy center.

If it wasn't Karajou posting this on the mainpage, I would have thought it's parody: Disrupting class by taking a cell phone call is perfectly okay, according to CP. I'm sure Andy's homeschool kids are allowed to take calls as much as they like! Update: Ah, so it's a distraction, but only giving a warning should have been fine... especially since "it's the American soldier who ensures that those teachers have a job."

Andy will de-liberalize any balanced entry in under 30 minutes, or the next one's free! Example: 21:08 - Praise for a balanced article. 21:35 - Liberal bias removed.

Somebody who went to primary/grammar school, vocational school and took on an apprenticeship still counts as homeschooled as long as he is self-taught in something like engineering. That's what you get for cherry-picking your blogs super-reliable sources! (For more info, see our closer analysis here.) After Karajou posted a news item about a teenager being beaten up in a public school, somebody points out that it didn't happen at school, but Kara defends his version. Apparently, he then actually read the article and corrected the news item anyway. The resulting discussion section is a sight to behold: Kara does his 180° turn without even blinking. NEW SYSOP ALERT!!!! Another day, another slap in the face for Helpjazz. Thou shalt not mention the FBI.Or else. Andy simply first points his way around his blog. And he'll simply second point you if you challenge his grammar, beotch.

Simple rules? I thought only Liberals were capable of deceit.

I can't decide whether this move should be filed under "Truth in advertising" or "Adding insult to injury".

Mmmmm That's a classy graphic they've stuck on the main page. 3D rotating logos always look good, right?

The irony meter has just reached all new levels. Come on PJR, any other editor would have gotten an infinite ban, not a measly 6 hours TK Uses the word 'Shame' 9 times in one rant and gets a ban of 40 minutes each!

Wow. StevenM is an idiot.

Joaquin hangs it up. So will he be banned and stripped of sysopship, like has been done to others in the past when they've taken sabbatical? Or, will Andy get to the bottom of this? Bonus speculation Could this be a setup to get back at PJR for messing with his Mind/body cut/paste jamboree article? Update #2: TK takes his ball, too, blaming... PJR for driving Joaquin away. But does anyone here actually think TK's leaving? Update #3: If TK didn't fan the flames of paranoia a bit, well then it just wouldn't be CP, would it? Update #4: Nothing to see here! Move along! (Especially nice how this purge basically comes just a few hours after PJR defended himself - wanna bet that Andy didn't and now will never read it?) Update #5: TK makes another rant on the Mind/Body talk page, but PJR puts his foot down!

According to Andy, getting a name wrong shows that you're clueless about the subject. I guess that means that Andy is clueless about the International Court of Justice for example...

Wait wait... there's a word for this... what is it? Oh yeah PWNED Take that TK|

Don't mock Andy's mommy, or he'll getcha! Mock your mommy, Andy? "Either back up your alleged quotations with citations or they will be removed", Andy? How's this: A Google search for the quoted string "in-home sales parties for abortions" yields 110 hits. Every one of them appears to be from your mother. Even allowing that some of them were copied from others, that's a lot of evidence. UPDATE: The citations have been added, what will Andy do now? UPDATE: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:TomMoore&curid=61167&diff=429117&oldid=428854 What castle? Castle??] (and what justification)? UPDATED UPDATE: The gauntlet is thrown. Update^3: "Books are only an accepted source when they got many Amazon reviews, so STFU!"

Sociology has surprisingly little to do with sociology. Seems more like a life science to Ed. Also, Ed's grasp of the Ten Commandments seems rather tenuous - "Thou shalt not do no murder," huh? See why we say intelligent design makes you stupid? Another gem from Ed Poor: being gay is like being a homicidal spider, which is incidentally kind of the same as getting an abortion. Also, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength. Update: Let's insult banned and retired users!

RationalWiki brings you up-to-the-minute updates in the title match, TK v. Decency. On the side of TK, we have T-eamK-iller, Joaquin "oblivious" Martinez, Ed "dontbeadick" Poor, and Geo "pavingwithgoodintentions" Plrd. On the side of Decency, we have Fox, TerryH (cowardly hiding in a corner), Andy Schlafly (also hiding), and Philip "raptorridinjesus!" Rayment! The parties are dancing back and forth and... PJR throws the first punch! Which TK ducks! Stay tuned for more Ides of April updates!