Talk:The Great Gatsby

No way this is on-mission, and I'd like to enter this as evidence for keeping WIPs in user space-- 02:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Osaka-- 02:05, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How is the greatest mockery of the era that gave us the Great Depression not on mission? Libertarians hate the thing. Osaka Sun (talk) 02:11, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Analyzing and refuting pseudoscience and the anti-science movement.
 * Documenting the full range of crank ideas.
 * Explorations of authoritarianism and fundamentalism.
 * Analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media.
 * CPR was on mission, this isn't. We aren't "troll libertarians" wiki.  I'm sorry.  You've got a lot to offer, but this isn't part of it.--  02:18, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

@Osaka, you're fine go ahead. TyBother me 02:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you fucking kidding me?! You wanted to delete CPR, but you want to keep The Great Gatsby?--  02:23, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * We need more background on the 1920s. And if you want to delete Catch-22 and Catcher in the Rye, go at it. Osaka Sun (talk) 02:28, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This was one of the few books I read nearly start-to-finish in high school. 02:40, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No, Osaka, what I want is CPR back in its original form, before Godot got her grubby hands on it-- 02:41, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Then go to heidelberg kid's wiki. ArchieGoodwin (talk) 02:42, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Brx, RW is a collaborative wiki so people will then chnage anything you type. You can't complain I am afraid. AceAce For Mod! 02:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

This is way off mission. No ifs or buts about it. 03:12, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

@Ty: "We need more background on the 1920s" does not translate to "have articles on classic literature." More background on the 1920s would mean covering extremist movements of the 1920s, and the state of the sciences at the time. We are not a general encyclopedia. (And for the record, I'm against the existence of articles on random books like Catch-22 and Catcher in the Rye.)  03:12, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

off mission
As it stands, I have to agree it is off mission. But it's considered to be one of the novels that truly defines teh "Great American Novel" which itself is quite rationalwiki. What are the themes and motifs of Gatsby and how do they apply to modern American world views? (If I remember right, it's about the American Dream, and the failing of that dream, which is HUGE to people right now). If you focus on that aspect, I think you can make it on mission. What I told Bricks, that he refuses to understand, is that virtually ANYTHING can be on topic, including lollypops and chai tea if you bother to ask yourself "why did I write this article?" "Who is it for?" "What is it adding to the world view of Rational Wiki". When you really think about your view of rational wiki, and why we aren't just Wikipedia, then you can make something you like, be on mission! Godot   Dear god, fucking grow up 19:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the sort of thing that I think is appropriate to have a small article on, even if it is just to remind people, such as myself, about books we were planning to read but never got around to. DamoHi 05:04, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Rationalwiki is not here to remind you to read classic American novels. Rationalwki will not give your mouth sex appeal. Rationalwiki will not get rid of the nubs. Rationalwiki will not make you look five pounds thinner.Rationalwiki will not go better with Coke. Rationalwiki will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath.
 * RationalWiki will put you in the driver's seat. Sophie  Wilder silverbrain.png 10:32, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

That being said this article does not address rationalism or mysticism, woo or skepticism. It does not confirm or debunk. It has no weight in the Rationalwiki sense. Either rewrite it, eliminate it or swap it for a link to wikipedia.--Zipperback (talk) 21:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Obviously off-mission.--Weirdstuff (talk) 21:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * As it is, it's off-mission.  23:03, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

. . . ..

A year later, nothing's changed & it's still off mission as hell. I'm gonna go ahead & delete unless there are strong reasons not to. 08:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll not get in the way. Генгис silverbrain.png 09:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Be my guest. No really, be my guest, I made a cake. Sophie  Wilder silverbrain.png 10:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Way off mission.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 10:38, 14 November 2013 (UTC)