Talk:Attitudes towards homosexuality

This article bothers me...
...in that it completely flattens out "societies" into one-dimensional things with no room left to talk about differences of opinion or debates within those societies. Canada might have legalised gay marriage, but compare attitudes on the question in, say, Red Deer Alberta to the Plateau area in Montréal and you'll be hard pressed to reconcile them as being part of a national "liberal" attitude towards homosexuals. Gays get bashed in the Netherlands sometimes; gays get accepted into their immediate communities in Arkansas sometimes, too. Also, man, the writing is shite. Amin7b5 02:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that's why I put the stub section, I want some people to help out. --Dark Paladin X 02:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I would also mention opposing viewpoints in Netherlands and Canada once I get them done.--Dark Paladin X 03:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

"And many justify for death penalty for homosexuality with this quote: "
Really? In the present tense? Today? In America? In Western Europe? Where do "many" mainstream Christians today use Biblical quotes to justify putting homosexuals to death? Amin7b5 02:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently, I'm trying to question that quote as well, there have been some right wing folks who do so. ask Westboro Baptist Church. If you want to help revise it, go ahead.--Dark Paladin X 02:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Westboro =/= "many". Amin7b5 02:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

"Christian attitudes towards homosexuality"
You've left little room for liberal Christians' views on the subject. Christianity =/= conservative. Amin7b5 02:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No the database has tons of room, we have an additional 250GB after the upgrade, you have plenty of room to put it in. 02:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

"Islam, like Christianity, also have negative attitudes towards homosexuality and many justify them in the holy text of Quran"
Islam doesn't have attiudes. People--in this case Muslim people--have attitudes. And the syntax is horrible. Amin7b5 02:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Amin you know how the talkpage has an edit button? You obviously do as you are using it a lot. The actual article page does too, how about you just make the changes yourself. 02:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Because i don't know much about the topic, and i think it starts from a flawed position.Amin7b5 02:50, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if you want, you can start doing some research online just like what I did.--Dark Paladin X 03:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's more the question of the whole conceptual framework--the article is trying to make vague generalising stabs at a complex topic with an incredible mix of historic/sociological/political/psychological aspects. Not sure there's a wiki article that can do it. Maybe narrow it down to laws, as opposed to something as vague as "attitudes"?Amin7b5 03:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The article could be started from scratch and it wouldn't lose much at this point. It's incredibly badly written - sorry, but I had to fix about 20-30 verb tenses - and as the chord says, it takes a very broad brush to entire societies.  OK, the part about Turkey and Indonesia isn't too bad, but still...  04:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm trying to help
But I keep getting edit conflicted trying to fix fucking spelling errors and bad writing in the lead. There's a lot of writing here that needs to be improved, and it seems to be piling up faster than it can be copyedited. 04:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry if i EC'd you, Human--I'm done for now, do your worst...Amin7b5 05:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, thanks. I came over because of your note at talk homosexuality, so I figured you were ready to have it mobbified.  22:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)