RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Fun:Tramp Stamps

Fun:Tramp Stamps | Result: Moved to essayspace

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Delete

 * 1) Mostly exists to be some sort of jab at some internet drama of yesteryear. And isn't even funny. 主要行事月 (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's actually current Tiktok drama bullshit, apparently from an Internet mob that has discovered that (gasp!) commercial music is commercial or something. It definitely doesn't belong here. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 17:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Preachy, not funny, incomprehensible to most RW readers (including me). Christopher (talk) 18:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't know what this is about. 20:24, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) To quote The Stooges, "No Fun". Bongolian (talk) 20:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) Baffling. 23:19, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 5) 𝒮𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝑒   talk  23:58, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Eh, doesn't make sense here. Probably not even suited for Uncyclopedia. Celeste (talk) 00:54, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) ...What. Non-missional, non-notable and too "lol random" even for funspace. - Linneris (talk) 07:20, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Not very good.Gale5050 (talk) 20:09, 9 June 2021 (UTC) Moving to Keep. Gale5050 (talk) 15:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Is there any question? Vote stricken in view of Bob's keep vote Scream!! (talk) 20:18, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Not funny; just plain stupid. Also used "dyslexic" as an insult along with appearing to stereotype LGBTQ people as dying their hair and getting radicalized by tankies, which didn't sit well with me. -- Goatspeed. 03:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 05:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Natsuki Marx (talk) 09:30, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Keep

 * 1) Okay, okay, can I defend myself? First, I thought that the point of Fun articles was to have a little fun and shitpost. This page has about as much value as Fun: Dr. Bronner's Soap. Second, in some respects I think this article serves a little value, that being to point out the hypocrisy of a industry plant punk band who ignored the inherent progressivism and social justice aspects of feminist punk and instead boiled it down to an aesthetic which they wore quite poorly. Either way, I wrote it just to get it off of my chest, because as a person who at least knows more than one riot grrrl band nothing boils my blood quite like fake punks. And in terms of being incomprehensible, A, Fun: Dr. Bronner's Soap, and B, I intentionally wrote it that way. It's meant to resemble 2009 taco pancakes rawr Tumblr speak, which in my head was a subtle jab at the Tramp Stamps, who tried to claim they knew anything about Tumblr but didn't even recognize SuperWhoLock. Also, I'd hate to let an hour's worth of work and learning basic HTML go to waste. TheJakeHolmesVersion (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) There are absolutely no no standards for funspace (apart from obvious legal or discriminatory stuff) and and thus no basis on which to propose a deletion. If we want to go deleting funspace articles then we would first need to set some standards.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 14:25, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * We’ve deleted a lot of fun pages over the years, some of them simply because they weren’t funny, which isn’t in unreasonable standard even if it isn’t spelt out explicitly anywhere. Christopher (talk) 14:57, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That is undeniably true. Whether those deletions were legitimate could be debated, but it's certainly a precedent. On the other hand, by no means all the "delete" votes above have "not funny" as a delete reason.  Even assuming that that was a legitimate reason - because "being funny"  is not a requirement of a funspace article.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 13:21, 13 June 2021 (UTC)    0
 * 1) Bob M has the right of it - hadn't thought of that before.Scream!! (talk) 14:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Scream. Although any redirects from main space should be deleted. -Gale5050 (talk) 15:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Funspace rolls differently...-Flandres (talk) 20:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) I've read their marketing. This article reads almost exactly like their marketing. 22:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 5) Per Bob. Techpriest (talk) 14:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 6) Per Bob and GC. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 00:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 7) I haven't got a problem with it. Spud (talk) 00:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 8) Don't really see a reason to delete. Plutocow (talk) 01:45, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

 * 1) I sort-of get it, but it's not very funny unless (perhaps) you're into this particular niche. I'd have no problem with it in the essay space. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 00:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) 2 Move to essayspace.  It's hard to appreciate parody without some familiarity with what's being parodied.  Obviously not a mainspace article, but too "interesting" not to save somewhere. Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 02:49, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Agree on moving to Essayspace, with SoT's reasoning. (Along with how the original author, TheJakeHolmesVersion, is comparatively active compared to creators of other deleted articles) ℕoir LeSable (talk) 03:01, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) It's a blog tier page, but deleting it is too much. GeeJayK (talk) 03:07, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 5) Sort of changed my mind on this, essay space has worse, more off-mission things then what's here. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 16:32, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Goat

 * Since TheJakeHolmesVersion is here, would his agreeing to move the page to Essay space negate the AFD? ℕoir LeSable (talk) 17:05, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm alright with that. TheJakeHolmesVersion (talk) 19:56, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Havent got an issue with it in this case, but I don’t like the trend of sticking any pet project of someone’s that gets afd’d in essayspace. Imo you want something to be an essay you should make it an essay from the start. Other people voting for essayfication without input from the creator doesn’t make sense. Christopher (talk) 20:05, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a matter of effort and care for me. This article is apparently a labor of love for its original author, who put a fair othamount of work into it.  I'm reluctant to destroy anything like that, at leas if it isn't obviously libellous or otherwise troubling, Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 13:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's obviously not an essay. It's not written as an essay.  It makes no argument or presents some point of view which invites debate.  We had a pile of stuff like this back in RW2. Funspace was specifically created to be repository (AKA dumping ground) for weird stuff which did not fit into the new somewhat more serious wiki.
 * Essay space was created to give editors somewhere to present controversial opinions which would not fit into main-space, to give them a protected area to present their particular protected view on a main-space topic or whatever.
 * If this belongs anywhere it's where it is now - funspace.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * So, what do we do now that keep in some form has more votes which are split between two options? The majority of votes cast were not "delete."-Flandres (talk) 22:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a funspace article. Not an essay article. Techpriest (talk) 14:51, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This has a 9-7-5 plurality to delete, followed by keep and then merge. What happens if no option cracks 50%+1 (i.e. a majority)? Gale5050 (talk) 00:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Make that 11-10-5. As a general rule it seems a majority does want the article kept, however this seems to come with unclarity of those who want it in essayspace or those who can think it's in funspace. The vote for delete/keep in some form is 11-15. Not sure what the best way forward is. Personally, I'm inclined to say "majority kept, majority keep as is versus essayspace so keep article as is" but YMMV. Techpriest (talk) 10:19, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's an odd case but I would also argue that the majority is "not delete". And of the "not delete" votes the majority "keep as is". So that would also be my solution.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 18:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)