Talk:The Young Turks

TYT isn't like Fox
Here's their host page with bios. These people just can't reasonably be compared with the Fox crew that's so obviously afflicted with intellectual deficits. Cenk is bombastic, but at least he's fact-based. --Tea Sagan (talk) 16:54, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It is not a "conspiracy theory" (check this very site's discussion of what that means/is)to speculate that a candidate for office is ill and that the campaign crew are trying to keep that under wraps. It's entirely plausible especially if the candidate is exhibiting certain symptoms. It may be wrong, but it isn't a conspiracy theory of the sort this site properly denounced. That term is hurled at Jimmy Dore to associate him with Illuminati cranks and the like and is wrong. He is a very rational man and absolutely does not advocate any conspiracy theories. I've changed it to "unfounded speculation."--Tea Sagan (talk) 12:04, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

hey tea sagan take you're jimmy dore fanboyism (unless you are jimmy dore which wouldn't surprise me) somewhere else, I already showed you my sources which are statements and videos that he made, does this quote seem rational to you (in response to the seth rich conspiracy theory being promoted by fox news crime analyst Rod Wheeler) "it seems like it (laughs), seems like that guy is telling the truth, so he's not an unnamed investigator he's a named guy we know who he is, we can put his face on the thing, okay" of course he didn't look up the fact that wheeler was not a reliable source of information and had a history of making racist and homophobic remarks, dore seems to have a history of falling for everything that fits his anti Clinton/anti msm agenda (he thinks fox and breitbart are more reliable sources of information), he also advocates the theory that there is a CIA conspiracy against Trump, he called the chemical attack in Syria a false flag :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HMyPy94blk he's a conspiracy theorist end of story.--Jaydogg1994 (talk) 12:58, 25 July 2017


 * It isn't a "conspiracy theory" to realize the CIA as an institution is opposed to Donald Trump. It's in the business of conspiracies, and doesn't like Trump. As for the Syria stuff, a lot of the original reporting on that did turn out to be false. Dore is properly and deeply skeptical of MSM reporting on much. That makes him smart and knowledgeable, not a "conspiracy theorists."--Tea Sagan (talk) 13:06, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Repetition does not make a point true; it is not a conspiracy theory to speculate about a candidate's health, and happens rather often, e.g., Obama campaign re: McCain's purported Alzheimer's. I find such tactics gross, and am fine with saying Dore shouldn't have joined in with the others who do that, but it is not a conspiracy theory -- Dore isn't even the physician Snopes claims is a conspiracy theorist in that link you keep mindlessly posting . Snopes does not mention Dore at all. So, you have the burden of explaining SPECIFICALLY why what Dore said fits a reasonable definition of "conspiracy theory," and you must do so in a way that Obama/McCain/Alzheimers doesn't fall into. Or admit they both promoted conspiracy theories (neither did). Up to you.--Tea Sagan (talk) 00:10, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I didn't say that he was the physician, I said he cited the physician as a creditable source without researching him first, Like what he did with the Seth Rich rumor where he cited a homophobic and racist fox news crime analyst.--Jaydogg1994 (talk) 00:55, 26 July 2017

Cenk is a JFK conspiracy theorist
I've heard him talk about the JFK assassination in the past and what he said made me wonder, but I could never quite tell. Then he pretty much confirms it in this video and also of note is that not one of the other three there say anything about it. Do with that information what you will. I just thought I'd point it out. The Adversary (talk) 21:32, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Cenk is an ex Right winger
https://web.archive.org/web/20131203014748/http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-299257454/cenk-uygur

From the link

Q: You began as a Republican. What accounts for your transformation?

Cenk Uygur: The Republican Party. [Laughs.] My favorite quote is from Charles Barkley, who said: "I was a Republican until they went crazy." That about sums it up for me.

I was a liberal Republican in New Jersey, back when such a thing existed. I was socially liberal, economically conservative. Several things went wrong. Number one, I realized that the Republican Party is not at all fiscally conservative. Then there was the issue of foreign policy and there they went nuts: They invaded Iraq, when it made no sense whatsoever, then they started torturing people and engaging in warrantless wiretapping. All of this was insanity, and I had no interest in being stained by being near a party like that.2607:FB90:DD2D:3C35:AC39:89F1:4DC8:58BC (talk) 22:59, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Uygur and TYT is in fact Russian propaganda.
Lots of people have studied them for a long time, and they are absolutely transparent once you understand their game and what issues are important to the Russians. The JFK conspiracy theories are a common Russian trope. Note how they spin wild, yet seemingly plausible stories, yet fail to mention simple facts like Lee Harvey Oswald defected to the Soviet Union, married a Russian woman, and was in communication with the Soviet embassy in Mexico, and their intelligence people who specialized in assasinations shortly before he killed JFK. Well beyond that, they all worked hard to irreparably damage Clinton’s reputation among the people they target to influence: American liberals. They are effectively undercover as liberals trying to undetectably weaken liberals from the inside. The evidence is overwhelming on all of them, including a very cozy relationship with Russia Today. Yes, lots of appearances on RT by these phonies up until RT became a more broadly known as propaganda.
 * If the evidence is indeed plentiful, then would you be so kind as to back your claims up with relevant links? RoninMacbeth (talk) 04:49, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * If they are Russian operatives, their coordination with Moscow must suck, because they are way off message. Maybe get Kushner to set up better back channel comms. Millennium Scallion (talk) 17:32, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * This is absolutely right, Cenk himself has taken millions in republican and venture capitalist money to fund his "anti-establishment" network. The whole thing is rotten to the core. He makes money off of democratic infighting. Its so blatantly dishonest. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 47.28.82.50 / talk
 * How tho. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 00:52, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

"Progressive"?
Try Communist, far-left, anti-american. 80.131.48.185 (talk) 02:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * What drugs are you on and where can I get some? 02:09, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Technically none of those labels are mutually exclusive with the term progressive. 13:17, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "Anti-American" can be, after all just look at folks like Caleb Maupin and The Grayzone. 13:31, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Categories
TYT are listed as both "Leftists who turned right with age" and "Rightists who turned left with age". Which is it?