RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Category:Alt-righters

Category:Alt-righters | Result: Merged into Category:Alt-right

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Delete

 * 1) I don't think it's particularly useful to have a separate category for alt-right personalities, considering most of our alt-right articles are about the personalities. Just put them in Category:Alt-right. (Btw, a lot already are and having both categories at the bottom just looks silly.) 141.134.75.236 (talk) 08:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 2) It's an unnecessary subcategory. CowHouse (talk) 04:59, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) Agreed. Spud (talk) 05:57, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 4) Yeah, it seems pretty redundant. Binarystep (talk) 06:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 5) Do away with redundant categories. RoninMacbeth (talk) 16:42, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 6)  00:55, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 7) Nerd (talk) 00:51, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Keep

 * 1) There are 54 articles in this category. The parent category has 63 articles about alt-right slogans, websites, mkovements and organisations. Even considering a small number of those are one-person bands, there are still enough to be worth keeping the two separate. 88.105.157.122 (talk) 11:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC) (Sophie)
 * So, why not merge the subcategories? Are you sure those don't overlap already with Category:Alt-right? 17:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Why not give a reasion beyond "why not?" Maybe it's better to keep individual people distinct from groups, slogans and concepts. 92.20.166.165 (talk) 07:02, 10 October 2018 (UTC) (Sophie)
 * My question, since it wasn't clear, was a semi-rhetorical one. How the categories are organized is all over the place. We don't have Category:Sexists Or Category:Ableists (but we have Category:Sexism and Category:Ableism), but we do have both on Category:Racists/Category:Racism and Category:Anti-Semites/Category:Anti-Semitism and Category:Homophobes/Category:Homophobia. We have individuals/organizations categorized in Homophobia and Racism also despite the categorizes for individuals/organizations existing. My point is we really need to clean up categories and apply some consistency here. While we do have split categories for individuals and the concepts, the overlapping thing is a problem, and this isn't helping, so I think we should discuss that first before we have a category that does little to distinguish between individuals/organizations and concepts. 22:20, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) I agree with the BoN above, the "Alt-righters" sub-cat serves its purpose. 11:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * the BON? Blimey, log out round here and suddenly you're chopped liver. 88.105.157.122 (talk) 12:52, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Given that I have no idea who you are outside a Bunch of Numbers (BoN), what else should I refer to you as? Sam? Bob? Dave? Sally? Alice?  13:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I had hoped that putting my name in brackets at the end might be some sort of clue... 88.105.157.122 (talk) 13:19, 4 October 2018 (UTC) ( Sam, Bob, Dave, Sally, Alice Sophie)
 * Ah, my apologies. Given that your original post lacks your usual signature I was unaware that it was you. EDIT: I apparently need more caffeine, since the signature is indeed there. 13:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * And maybe I need to come up with yet another Marcel Duchamp-based username as my latest LANCB has gone the way of all the others :( 88.105.157.122 (talk) 13:41, 4 October 2018 (UTC) (Sophie)
 * 1) Tinribmancer (talk) 16:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 2) James Earl Cash (talk) 00:51, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

 * 1) Since this topic doesn't seem to be reaching consensus, I propose that Alt-Righters be merged into Alt-right. Alt-right has 126 articles in it, of which about 51 are people. It looks like it would be easier to avoid confusion by merging the two categories together. LeftyGreenMario's analysis is spot on; we should also take a look at categories like this throughout the wiki and try and make them more consistent. Cosmikdebris (talk) 23:44, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Just noting that this doesn't seem meaningfully different from what is proposed under "Delete". 141.134.75.236 (talk) 12:36, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Good point. Cosmikdebris (talk) 16:23, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Above reason. 00:21, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 2) Absolutely. And again I think the problem (in most of the cases where something like this happens on the wiki) is templates that come with categories attached to them. Spud (talk) 05:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) We should just make this category a redirect to the "Alt-right" category- just like how the "Atheists" category redirects to the "Atheism" category. 21:31, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Goat
I have on specific concern: doesn't the wording we've chosen sound dumb? "righters" that sounds like a 1980s british neologism. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 01:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There was "rightist" but it was co-opted by leftists to describe centrists. Avida Dollarsher again 14:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)