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As a "women's rights" person, a "feminist" a "rape survivor" or whatever label you chose for yourself, there are always two battles you are fighting simultaneously. The first is that it **IS** our culture which sets girls up to be raped, and frankly, boys up to rape. we hide sex. we down play it, or even block it all while glorifying it and selling everythign with it. I've never agreed with hiding sex, but if you are going to do that, you at least need to create a puritanical world where we aren't being shown it 24/7. WE teach our girls to be a tease, by teaching them they NEED a boyfriend to be whole, and then giving them the double message of "STAY PURE OR YOU HAVE NO VALUE" and SEX SEX SEX. our girls don't know how to give clear signals cause they don't evne know what they want. we start sexualizing them at 7, 8, 9 now. and they don't have the maturity to know how to fight all of that.

Our boys are taught to TAKE WHAT THEY WANT. taught that men have to push women to get it, cause women don't know that they really want it. We tell our boys the same bs "sex is bad, m'kay" while we say "go go go have sex". The boys are confused because dad says "all girls want it, but they won't tell you that'. AND we hero worship our hot boys, and say "you should get AS MUCH SEX AS YOU CAN" so they do.

We create the reality of rape culture with every movie we make, book we write, and TV commercial we sell. Adn then we whine and say "wait, why is she claiming i raped her?"

The second reality is that women need to be empowered overall, not just about sex. STronger role models in our world. Stronger TV characters, less sterotyped figures in books. But those kind of women don't sell. women who don't need men, don't sell. women who can say "fuck you, this is not what i want OR need" isn't something you can easily teach.

I was not kidding when i said talk to the average 13 year old teen girl (maybe boy, too... dont' know, there) about what they want, and it's "a cute date". they probably don't want sex, but sex insures the date.

so they say yes. but yes is not really what they want.

100 years ago, Simone deBeauvoir said "if you pay me a diamond ring, I'll sleep with you forever" to try to get women to see that in some ways, our traditional view of marriage is just legalized prostitution. That's changing, and by the time most girls in today's world become women, they won't likely marry into that kind of a relatioship... but it's still not an equal, measured world for most women, even in teh states.

ramblingn now. bit drunk. been a bad day.