Talk:Illuminati

A refutation
Leon Trotsky, who, along with Lenin, was the most preeminent Bolshevik revolutionary said, in "My Life" (describing his time in the Odessa prisons): "It was during that period that I became interested in freemasonry. ... In the eighteenth century freemasonry became expressive of a militant policy of enlightenment, as in the case of the Illuminati, who were the forerunners of the revolution; on its left it culminated in the Carbonari. Freemasons counted among their members both Louis XVI and the Dr. Guillotin who invented the guillotine. In southern Germany freemasonry assumed an openly revolutionary character, whereas at the court of Catherine the Great it was a masquerade reflecting the aristocratic and bureaucratic hierarchy. A freemason Novikov was exiled to Siberia by a freemason Empress. ... I discontinued my work on freemasonry to take up the study of Marxian economics. ... The work on freemasonry acted as a sort of test for these hypotheses. ... I think this influenced the whole course of my intellectual development.": http://marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1930/mylife/ch08.htm

For more on this, the following may interest you: http://archive.org/details/WatersFlowingEastward_307

They exist
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Order that claims to be illuminati
On other hand, there is a order claiming to be illuminati. Citation. It is unlikely that they are illuminati, though. I am inexperienced to write about that. Please add that information.
 * There are literally dozens, if not hundreds, of "Illuminati" groups on the internet. Most are either trolls and pranks, some are scams, and none are worth mentioning. 01:25, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

The truth has been revealed
The Truth(tm) being that the Illuminati went extinct as an order long ago, before the French Revolution even. Idiots need to learn their history. Morons. — Oxyaena   Harass  08:43, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

origin of claim that eye-in-triangle was Illuminati's symbol?
What's the earliest text to claim the eye-in-the-triangle/eye-in-the-pyramid/all-seeing eye/eye of Providence was Weishaupt's Illuminati's symbol? It's not in Robison's Proofs of a Conspiracy or Baruel's Memoirs of Jacobinism.

I doubt if this is the earliest one, but just to put something out there that perhaps others can antedate:

Josephson, Emanuel Mann. Roosevelt's Communist Manifesto. NY: Chedney Press, 1955. 4. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073445507&view=2up&seq=8

Toff (talk) 11:29, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Origin of celebrity hand-symbols?
I'm talking about the ones like the sign of the horns, the ok sign and the peace/victory sign. Also the weird amount of times celebs cover one eye or do the ok sign over their eye.--Back2theroots34 (talk) 10:58, 3 May 2022 (UTC)