Debate:Excessive Charisma's effect on politics

Proposition
Like much of my opinions, I feel that the majority of non-Wing nut Americans know how dangerous excessive charisma can be but don't really feel that confident in their knowledge. We have more than enough controversial leaders to prove SOMETHING can make sensible people cloud their judgement. Do they know that Patriotism is loving your country? With all of the trials and compromise love implies? Or at some point, did the American people forget that and let extremists in? 03:00, 12 January 2014‎‎
 * Huh? 03:06, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Say what? 03:23, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Oi.Oi. Maybe this is why I should keep out of politics. My point was, that it seems to be a far more strange issue for the man on the street to know that charisma is bad in extremes in the states.
 * No doubt there is a lot of style over substance going on in many political arenas. Better to discuss plenty of specifics, though, before going all meta. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 03:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Read this out loud to yourself: "We have more than enough controversial leaders to prove SOMETHING can make sensible people cloud their judgement. " What does that even mean? --Marlow (talk) 03:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Charisma is just a tool, and it says very little about the individual using it. Sure, if your goal is convincing a whole bunch of people that you're right or awesome, it's indispensable. However, it's no more "dangerous" than any other tool. It's the ideas held by the people who use it to do batshit crazy things that are dangerous. I mean hell, the Tea Party in the States is barely about charisma when you think about it. Have you seen some of these popular Tea Party candidates speak? - GrantC (talk) 04:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Grant. I remembered that after a bit of sleep.--The Madman (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2014 (UTC)The Madman