Talk:Del Bigtree

Stub created, but much more material here:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Anti-vaccination_movement

--CogitoNotStirred (via telepathy) 03:01, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

What do you guys think now? I heavily expanded the page. It can probably be its own article now. But anyway, is there anything else that's major and missing? I dunno if Vaxxed discussion should be on this page or not. I also feel not all his bases are covered, but not sure if it's really necessary. 23:19, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Everything is a work in progress, but looks like a very good start to me. Will try to work on this too, am mostly working on Scandinavian extremism at the moment. But Vaxxed could also redirect to a section here, right? --CogitoNotStirred (via telepathy) 00:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Vaxxed probably needs a good section first before we start using redirect and anchors toward the subsection. 02:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

How about actually looking at facts?
Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. This whole site is like a church... I see zero objectivity or factual accuracy. I hope that people do their own research, but few people have time for that these days. Try actually listening to what Bigtree is saying: https://www.spokanepublicradio.org/post/inland-journal-april-18-2019-vaccine-safety-pt-1-del-bigtree Or read the whitepaper: https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/VaccineSafety-Version-1.0-October-2-2017-1.pdf Giving absurd refutations ("we don't need double blind studies to prove things--they are too unethical") just makes y'all look retarded. 1 in 10 are injured by vaccines when reporting is automated. CDC stopped talking to Harvard once this result came out. Read & learn. --U-dont-exist (talk) 02:17, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you provide instances of inaccuracies on the article? All I'm seeing is you calling us a Church(?), and then linking us to a website accused of spreading misinformation about vaccines. --Forerunner (talk) 02:20, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Derogatory slur aside, most of your arguments fit on the bingo card. Whitepaper you cited: 1st point on vaccine liability, which has been done to death already. 2nd point on "inadequate trials" despite thousands of papers being studied on vaccines. Comparing vaccine to religion. Thinking that ethics is considered an "absurd refutation" just shows these anti-vaxxers hold to an impossible standard; even if we were to miraculously procure a study without the ethics problems (and as said in the article, the existing epidemiological studies are good enough), they still won't accept that as evidence. If you mean "when reporting is automated" by "VAERS dumpster diving" then you're wrong too. It tells me a lot that you're quick to throw around the term "retarded" while also expressing concern for people with "vaccine injuries". Doesn't really refute your argument, but just an observation. 03:08, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ableist. 04:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

https://www.kxxv.com/news/national/coronavirus/anti-vaccine-movement-could-impact-the-effectiveness-of-a-covid-19-vaccine

Apparently in this article Del Bigtree is claiming that "natural immunity" to COVID-19 is more Superior to if an actual vaccine candidate is approved to SARS-COV-2. This is nuts Del Bigtree is implying that he wants more people infected from COVID-19 naturally. But as of 2020 There are Vaccine candidates for clinical testing though.2601:640:C600:3C20:7136:5157:E445:219C (talk) 20:17, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Why won't he get the natural immunity himself? What an asshole. 00:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Politics That's why Del Bigtree is making claims of natural immunity at State Capital's though to influence not just the presidential elections but also the Governor's and congressional elections.2601:640:C600:3C20:1CC4:9A47:1F49:94FF (talk) 14:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/antivaccine-leader-del-bigtree-on-covid-19-lets-catch-this-cold-why-antivaxxers-and-coronavirus-conspiracy-theorists-are-often-one-in-the-same/

Here is an Update on Bigtree, Science Based Medicine as gotten a new rant on Bigtree telling people to get COVID-19

From the Rant2601:640:C600:3C20:C51D:FA11:7C4E:50C0 (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Update Del Bigtree is complaining that his video has been banned from YouTube and he has moved his video over to Bitchute. Since the mask video was in violation to states that issue Mask Requirements.

https://mobile.twitter.com/delbigtree/status/1281557341293379584 73.71.164.202 (talk) 03:43, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Here is more of Del Bigtree being banned from YouTube https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/youtube-terminates-anti-vaccine-figure-del-bigtrees-account-after-he-pushed 2601:640:C600:3C20:81C9:4D6C:A7AC:F925 (talk) 19:11, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-passport-pushback-gains-steam/

https://thehighwire.com/videos/are-vaccine-passports-the-end-of-america/

Update there are recent episodes of Highwire where Del Bigtree spreads lies about Vaccine passports to politicians.2601:640:C600:3C20:35FD:EA4A:E2A9:276C (talk) 20:41, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

https://www.wtnh.com/news/politics/rise-up-opponents-of-proposed-religious-exemption-ban-for-childhood-vaccines-rallying-in-hartford/

Del Bigtree likes to show up at state capitols whenever the State Legislatures and Governor's offices want to reduce vaccine exemptions and he cries crazy shit every time.2601:640:C600:3C20:880B:7D1E:EE11:9CF6 (talk) 03:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/some-biggest-us-brands-run-ads-notorious-covid-19-vaccine-conspiracy-theorists

Also Bigtree has advertisers on his podcasts.2601:640:C600:3C20:4C6E:9FA0:575A:223 (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

New resource on Del
Here's a new blog post [|post] for people to mine, 'Del Bigtree is a fake Doyen of the anti-vaxxer movement post ban on Youtube and Facebook' https://thegoodfellow.net/2021/07/22/del-bigtree-is-a-fake/ Skinnytony1 (talk) 22:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Del Bigtree is a Leftist who turned right with age
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/06/1057344561/anti-vaccine-activists-political-conference-trump-republicans

An unlikely alliance "The truth is, I'm still a registered Democrat," says Del Bigtree, a well-known anti-vaccine activist. Even before COVID-19, he wrote and produced a documentary that falsely claimed childhood vaccines were linked to autism. But the message never caught on with the liberal audience he was targeting.

Instead, it seemed to tap into something on the political right. He still remembers the first time he noticed; it was after he was invited to speak at a conservative women's group in Texas.

"Clearly I was shocked as a lifelong liberal progressive that I was hugging and hanging out and having a great time with a bunch of extremely conservative mothers and grandmothers," says Bigtree.

Bigtree has been banned from social media platforms like YouTube for making false claims about the dangers of COVID-19 vaccines. But as the pandemic has dragged on, his conservative audience keeps growing. Often he speaks at conferences alongside people who claim the election was rigged and promoters of QAnon conspiracy theories.

From NPR News in 2021 about Del Bigtree2601:640:C681:C260:27DE:71B2:5D54:C4D (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2022 (UTC)