User talk:AKjeldsen/Archive2

Water, trade union, physics
I lol'd. XD --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום

Trade unions have their own physics? Awesome! -- 13:15, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * Indeed they do, although they mostly work through inertia. ;-) -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 13:20, 31 January 2008 (EST)

As long as you're up...
Hows about debatin' here? -- 08:51, 1 February 2008 (EST)

IRC
Care to join our little party? --Linus (plot evil tech) 13:36, 9 February 2008 (EST)

Ungodly hours of the night
So, what are you doing up? -- 04:54, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * It's 11 AM Central European Time here, and I'm at work. ;-) So what are you doing up? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 04:59, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * It's 2:00 in the morning where I am! Which makes your hours more godly than mine, I guess.  :-)  -- 05:04, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * Not much, TBH. When I don't have to be at work, I usually sleep until 10-11 AM. Makes for some interesting sleep patterns. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 05:10, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * TBH? -- 05:14, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * "To be honest". -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 05:16, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * Ah. I thought you were trying to deceive me with your fearsome acronymz.  -- 05:23, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * Of course I were. As a liberal, deceit forms the very basis of my existence. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 05:52, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * Good that you admit to yourself that you are a liberal, but I am sure you are in atheist denial. Editor at CPBring TK back 06:03, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * Probably. However, if I admit to myself that I am in atheist denial, am I still in atheist denial? And if I then think I'm no longer in atheist denial, wouldn't that mean that I am in fact in atheist denial? This seems to be an inescapable Circle of Doom.TM -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 06:40, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * You reason too much. You should just accept your faith in the Lord, as Saint Augustine did. I wholeheartedly suggest you to read the comprehensive Theology section of the article on him. Editor at CPBring TK back 06:53, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * That was very enlightening. They obviously mean to say that Augustine's theology is so sublime that it's impossible to explain in writing. A very good point. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 07:15, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Pissing on Susan
That was not only not nice, it was way out of line.

I ask you: who does more for this site, our friend and immense contributor Susan, or some bored random teenage wiki wanderer named Kip the Dip? Think about that for a bit, please. human  04:46, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Everyone has calmed down
And most, at least our transatlantic neighbours, are peacefully sleeping. Really, the only way to go back to normality is for everybody to get unblocked and go on. Besides, some discussion on the role of RW, on its rules and on its sysops can only be beneficial, right? Editor at RWwas rooting for HD DVD 07:12, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 * Thus, please unblock yourself and return to CP. I can say that I have learnt more from you than any other RW contributor (flattering, isn't it?). Editor at RWwas rooting for HD DVD 07:14, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Pretty bold claim
Yeah, I kinda helped myself to that one. I could spam you to death with relevant cites, but every's still a very big word. Pith ahead of precision, as it were. In other news, I'd like to say sorry again for taking this unnecessary dig a while back. Not proud. Have some dancing bananas, fella:

--Robledo 16:24, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 * Dancing bananas! All is forgiven! (If there was really anyhting to forgive, I don't really remember with all this other stuff.) -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:32, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Kierkegaard
I was surprised your user page link went to WP and not our (your) article. In other news, while digging out some of my old philosophy of language books, I encountered a copy of A Short Life of Kierkgaard (which I always thought was a rather morbid title) and thought maybe I would try to fill out the "life" section beyond "He lived. He died." I found it odd, while skimming, to note that several of his siblings were also named Soren... human  18:49, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * (Whoops, can't have that. Fixed the link.) Yeah, but Kierkegaard's life was actually pretty short, and not that much fun while it lasted, I guess. As for the name thing, it was pretty common in 19th century Denmark that a family would have a small set of first names that got recycled frequently, both among siblings and between generations. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:01, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * I think that the high point of his life was spending, in a weekend, a month's salary on cake.--מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
 * It is with some shame that I must admit I have no idea what you're talking about, but I expect there's an amusing anecdote behind it? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:31, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * There is, our philosophy teacher was telling us about it. Apparently, in a fit of existentialism, or because he was hungry, he went to the local bakers, bought out their entire stock, and had the whole lot. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
 * Well, I guess he must have decided he really wanted some cake. Let's just hope all that cake didn't cause him a sickness unto death, though. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:01, 20 February 2008 (EST)

Kasparov
Although you wrote it back in December, I didn't chance to see this until today... I find it fascinating. Could you write an article on this "new chronology"? I'm just itching to learn how the idea that all recorded history is only 1000 years long is reconciled with (e.g.) our fairly complete and detailed chronology of European monarchs back to the 10th CE century and earlier. I guess it wasn't until around the 12th century in Europe that people really started putting the minutia to paper (vellum?) but that hardly seems like an excuse... -- 19:57, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * I'm sort-of planning to do that, but I'd have to read the books first, and I'm not entirely sure if I can stomach that. Let's just say it's reconciled (in a manner of speaking) only through the most bizarre feats of artistic acrobacy you're ever likely to see. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:04, 20 February 2008 (EST)

AKjeldsen, why are you wasting your time with this? Its the stupidest theory out there. DoggedamesP 20:11, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * True, but when a significant number of people, including a potential Russian presidential candidate, start subscribing to it, I think there's at least some reason to look into it. Besides, everybody needs a hobby. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:19, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * And RA's is sockpuppeteering on RW. He is fairly good at it - for a psychosomatic, at least. human  00:24, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Touché
Heh! -- Susan Purrrrr  11:59, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Danish rubber goat??!?!?
From Science Blogs Scandinavian archaeologist...-- -PalMD -- 09:03, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * Indeed! Our gummigeder are widely sought after for their many, many qualities. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 09:23, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Alternative caption
How about "DM kitty sez Gary Gygax rolls critical failure on his armour throw and is killed by orcz"? -- 12:12, 5 March 2008 (EST)
 * A little unconcise. Hmm... "RP kitteh: Fails save vs. sadness." -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 12:21, 5 March 2008 (EST)


 * On a related and slightly spammy note, please to be voting for my lolcat. It sucks so much less than the rest of the leader board :D -- 12:28, 5 March 2008 (EST)
 * U can haz vote. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 12:34, 5 March 2008 (EST)


 * Huzzah, let a thousand lolcats bloom, chairman meiow! -- 16:49, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Give me 30 euros
or I will unblock your cp account. TmtamesP 16:40, 8 March 2008 (EST)
 * Are you crazy? I don't even have 30 euros.
 * Ok, that was a lie. I do have 30 euros. But you can't have them. I don't negotiate with blackmailers. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:05, 8 March 2008 (EST)
 * Ok, that was a lie. I do have 30 euros. But you can't have them. I don't negotiate with blackmailers. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:05, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Give me 12 million competition points
Or I'll fall through the bridge and then reverse in a tight circle until I reach light speed. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
 * YOU'RE WINNER! Have your 12 million competition points. Don't spend them all at once. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:06, 8 March 2008 (EST)

The results are in!
Anders it is! Congratulations! TmtamesP 14:27, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Bah, third party deceit! The result is clearly a tie between no less than five different possibilities. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 15:02, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

Hoi
Fijne Verjaardag! Goedenamiddag! Prettig met u kennis te maken. Ik heet TmtamesP. Ik heb hulp nodig. Waar is het toilet, alstublieft? Dat is jammer. Smakelijk eten. Dank u. Hartelijk dank. Tot ziens! TmtamesP 15:44, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Let's guess who discovered Google Translate. -- 16:40, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

Ja, graag gedaan. You know, mijnheer, it seems like you have moved yourself into a bit of a paradox here. On the one hand you claim I'm Dutch. But on the other, you claim that my name is "Anders". "Anders", however, is to the best of my knowledge not a Dutch name. I look forward to seeing you resolve this, and in the meantime I declare you SCHOOLED and EPIC PHAIL! Een prettige dag verder! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:46, 13 March 2008 (EDT) I prefer Babelfish myself. Because of nostalgia.
 * Nonsense. The whole point is that the Dutch and the Danes are the same people, both descendants of wooden shoes.  So, I believe, I have schooled you! TmtamesP[[Image:Objection.gif|30px]] 16:52, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Nonsense yourself. It is well-known that Danes originally came into being out of nothing, perfectly formed in both mind and body, while the probably Dutch crawled out from a hole in the ground somewhere near Apeldoorn. In any case, we're nothing alike. It is obvious that there is a significant missing link somewhere in this alleged "evolution from wooden shoes" hypothesis of yours. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:02, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Bah. Take your pseudoscientific theories elsewhere, this is a rationalist wiki. TmtamesP[[Image:Objection.gif|30px]] 17:06, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * What? Why is it you wooden shoe evolutionists always refuse to enter into a serious discussion with us? It's because you're afraid that you'll be mercilessly schooled by our superior facts and discussion abilities, isn't it? I'm right, am I not? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:26, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * It all just goes back to your irrational claims of the big proto-Dane in the sky. I am too dignified to debate with someone who believes something so terribly and horrendously stupid.  You're worthless.  You disgust me.  You make me sick. You are ugly. TmtamesP 17:54, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Bah. Your unwillingness to accept the facts as they are just highlights the rank and demeaning materialist nature of your so-called wooden shoe "science". Even renowned international wooden shoe expert Adriaaaaaan van zo dem 's Hergezogenboschnach-Gloijterdjijk agreed when he said that "It ... is ... quite ... obvious ... that ... Danes ... could ... never ... have ... evolved ... from ... wooden shoes." (Some minor irrelevant parts removed.) -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:19, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Why am I even debating with you? You espouse the anti-clog movement, which is sadly so prevalent in Northern Europe.  When you stop to think about it, you are really nothing more that a fascist. TmtamesP 18:25, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Please. Any right-thinking person can tell that it is actually you and your clogs-wearing cohorts who use your superior position in society to oppress and silence those who try to bring uncomfortable facts to the light of day. Teach the controversy, that's all we demand! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:53, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Wah, wah, wah! I'm such an oppressed little DEC! Teach the controversy?  Are you crazy!  "The Big JuJu-Dane in the sky" does not belong in the classroom! TmtamesP 19:58, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

query
Ever been to the Faroe Islands? TmtamesP 20:12, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * No, I haven't. But a lot of my tax money goes there! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:17, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, go. Now. TmtamesP 20:23, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Now? But it's the middle of the night here. And why? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:32, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Shut up. Don't ask questions.  Just go! Now! TmtamesP 20:35, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Paraphrasing slightly from Mt 24:16-18, 'then let those who are in Denmark flee to the Faroe Islands. Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.' --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
 * I'm pretty sure anyone going to the Faeroes are going to need cloaks. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:39, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * There's no time! Damnit Chloe ...  --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
 * You did not just quote 24 on me, did you? >_< -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:43, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Sorry, I can't really be arsed to do that. If you send me $1000 for a ticket, I might reconsider, though. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:38, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Then you will surely die dine. On Norwegian cuisine. TmtamesP 20:42, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I remain unconcerned. Lutefisk is a controlled substance around here and the rest of their food is quite acceptable. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:43, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Did I say Norwegian? I meant German. Or if you happen to like that also, then French.  No one likes French food. TmtamesP 20:49, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * You forget I'm a Euro-commie. It's in my contract that I have to like French food. Their lobbying activities were quite enthusiastic. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:51, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Swiss? TmtamesP 20:53, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Dont know, never been to Switzerland. I like chocolate, though. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:55, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Silly eu-er. You don't have to go to Switzerland to experience swiss cuisine. TmtamesP 20:56, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * We don't exactly have a Swiss restaurant on every street corner around here. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a Swiss restaurant in my life. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:58, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

Cheese fondue, rosti, and, er, that's as much as I can think of. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
 * I have at least 3 Swiss restaurants on every block here. What is it with Denmark? Why such ethnocentrism? TmtamesP 21:01, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * We are a sad, small, narrowminded country. It's because we lost a war 140 years ago. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 21:03, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * That's funny. So did the South.  Is your nation full of ignorant hicks and anti-government militant groups, too?  -- 23:18, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

RationalWikiWiki
FYI RationalWikiWiki has relocated to another site. 21:11, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

?
Your recent vandalism spree at ratwikiwikiwiki was childish. Why must you try and censor that which you disagree with? Can't we have rational discourse? TmtamesP 17:07, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Sorry. Wasn't me. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:40, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
 * However, if you make me a sysop, I'll be happy to help prevent and/or clean up after any such further attempts at vandalism. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:50, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay. As soon as it lets me access the site again... User talk:TmtamesP|TmtamesP]] 17:52, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay. Your in. TmtamesP 18:27, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Thank you, #17... I mean, mr. Admin. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:39, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

Hello
Thank you for your welcome. Meursault2004 06:54, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

Danes
Look at the leaderboard for the World Golf Championships. The top ten currently includes two Danes. No doubt Soren Kjeldsen is one of your relatives. And look, ANDERS Hansen. Didn't you tell me Anders was not a Danish name? TmtamesP 19:29, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
 * No, I told you it wasn't a Dutch name. Also, I'm afraid I'm not related to that other mr. Kjeldsen, that being rather a common name around these parts. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:34, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Don't make me dig up the diffs. TmtamesP 20:45, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
 * You have this unhealthy obsession with Danes, Bohdan. Are you coming on to AKjeldsen?  -- 00:14, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Allright, kids. To be stopping messing up my talk page, please. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
 * You spelled alright wrong, unless you refer to the old German cars. TmtamesP 19:47, 25 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Noted. Thank you for your valuable contribution! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:48, 25 March 2008 (EDT)
 * You're quite welcome. I try my hardest to make this a quality site. TmtamesP 19:51, 25 March 2008 (EDT)
 * He started it! :P  -- 15:30, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Constitutional Convention
Moved to : Constitutional_Convention

He's gone
And I'll stop being crazy too. Sorry. - 15:27, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd say you too Ames need a 89 days block. Just to get that Lulz/Fun back, you know. Superstitious animistEd at CP 15:28, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * In hindsight, don't take my suggestion literally. RW is already full of people leaving for who-knows-what reasons. I hope everybody comes back (Susan we need you!) and nobody leaves anymore.
 * I just don't agree with an arbitrary 89 days block, without first discussing it or motivating it. Unless all this has been done in some secret cabal meeting, in which case I apologize. I also apologize, PFoster, for hijacking your Talk page. Superstitious animistEd at CP 15:32, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't consider this arbitrary. TK is consistently throwing vague accusations and insults around without backing anything up, and that is simply not acceptable behaviour. I had just posted a final warning on his talk page before I saw the recent block - apparently, Ames was less lenient than I was prepared to be, but I agree with the action in principle. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 15:46, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Yep, I read the diffs of your warning and after them agree with the block. It would be better if some of this behind-the-scenes action would either be made public, or more transparently told about. We mortal users, who only read RW, don't always grasp what's going on. We just see that Hoji sets up a page for the blocking of TK, and then some sysop arbitrarily puts another three month block, a few days after his previous sentence (?) expired, and without any clear motivation. Superstitious animistEd at CP 16:13, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, there is very little behind-the-scenes going on here, at least that I know of. Personally, I've only gotten and replied to a single email from TK, otherwise it is all out here in the open. I didn't know that Hoji would put up the page or Ames was going to block TK again, either. So most of what you see are individual sysyops acting on their own. As a Cabal, I'm afraid we're horribly bad at actually coordinating stuff. :-( -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:22, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Well I have been a lazy reader of RW in the last few days, but I have seen nothing warranting an 89 day block. I don't think it was the discussion about "he wanted to have his userpage deleted or protected" "no I didn't want" that caused that block. Probably I have missed something. And it seems that there is an, explicit or implicit, consensus among the cabal to get rid of TK. I'll leave it at that, I'm not TK's lawyer. Superstitious animistEd at CP 16:30, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Obviously, I can't speak for Ames, but for myself - I guess I probably come from a somewhat less tolerant tradition of moderating than is the norm here. Making vague accusation against sysops of making "veiled threats" or being disingenuous is something that is simply 'not done', because it diminishes the position of the sysop and the legitimacy of the community which made them one. I had previously warned TK not to do so in public, and he did, hence the need for further sanctions. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:43, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * On the other hand, 1) we come from CP with all that it means ("we will never be like CP", "we will never block anyone", up to such absurds as not blocking clear vandals before the appearance of the mypasswordismoron ones) 2) most active editors are sysops, and 3) sysopship in RW really means nothing, and anybody can become a sysop. Weren't HoG and Bohdan Sysops too at one point or another? It again goes to the same need of rules that is discussed elsewhere. Has Ames (sorry Ames, just to make a name!) a more protected position than a normal editor? If so, is it because of his Sysopship, his being in RW 1.0 and a member of the cabal, or for what "formal" reason? And TK: must he be considered a normal editor or should there be rules for him only? Don't you aknowledge to TK that people are treating him bad here, both now and last year, regardless of his actions (that is, even before that he opens his mouth)? Yes, he could behave better. Still, a condemnation according to formal rules by the International Court of Justice at The Hague would be better than a lynch by a mob(ocracy). Superstitious animistEd at CP 17:01, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Dude... We've lost a stone-cold tool for three months. No soul searching required. Seriously. --Robledo 17:22, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

Thanks guys for removing my penitential self-block :-). I do think that this was the right thing to do, esp. if we're to move forward, keep PFoster, and try to recover Jeeves & SusanG.  We neither need, nor ought to have to put up with ubertrolling.- 16:02, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * TK was never a normal editor here. [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]Genghis  Marauding 17:28, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Also, amusingly, as far as the "Court", I have concluded that the installation of democracy must be bootstrapped with some amount of benevolent autocracy, otherwise the ground rules will never be agreed upon. Also, Ed @ CP, I know you were partly joking, but being booted off a small wiki-club because "most" of the active editors there hate your guts is not in the same league as "lynching".  And, yeah, TK was never a "normal" editor here.  If a noob came here and acted like he did, they'd have picked up some one days blocks rapidly, and left out of common sense. human  19:07, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Twelve-year-old dropouts
Your use of emoticons and ":nods:" makes you look like a twelve year dropout, not the highly educated Dutch historian you really are. Please cease this immediately! You are giving all of us, Dutch and Danish (and yes, we are bothers), a bad name. TmtamesP 18:40, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, you're the only "bother" here, Bohdan. -- 18:43, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Tsch. Bohdan, Bohdan, Bohdan. Consider this, if you will: how do you know that I, in fact, am not a "twelve year dropout"? I think you will find that this puts an entirely different light on the whole situation. :nods: -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:48, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * PS: What is a "twelve year dropout"? Is that someone who drops out at the age of twelve, or someone who drops out after twelve years? And if so, twelve years of what? Inquiring minds want to know. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:49, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Tsch? How dare you use such Dano-frankish profanity! You identify "In real life, I study for an MA in history " which might be a lie since you are a liberal. And you claim in the media to be "27, a Danish graduate student ". So take that, svin! TmtamesP 18:53, 3 April 2008 (EDT)


 * I meant twelve year old drop out. Sorry. TmtamesP 18:53, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * The obvious explanation is that I might be a twelve year old drop out who's also a pathological liar. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * As for "Tsch", I am also about 1/4 German, so I fully reserve the right to use such expressions. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:00, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I have given that much thought and concluded that while your knowledge of history is indeed sparse, you have extensive skill in anti-clog rhetoric, something no child could manage. TmtamesP 19:01, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * OK, you got me. I must admit that I am not a twelve year old dropout. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:03, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I am convinced you were educated in a private windmill. Or maybe at a folkeskole with night classes at the clog-maker's shop. TmtamesP 22:19, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Bohdan, you're a horribly confused individual. Folkeskole is right, windmills not so much. And I was far too lazy in school to take evening classes of any sort. Except music. Music was fun. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 11:15, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Music? Do you like Sir Henry and his Butlers?  My favorite Danes. TmtamesP 14:31, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Shouldn't it be "twelve-year-old dropout"? In other words, with hyphens.--Bobbing up 11:29, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * That was my first guess as well, but not being a native speaker, I just followed Bohdan's lead. In hindsight, that may not have been the wisest decision. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 11:43, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * "I just followed Bohdan's lead." A horrible confession on your part.--Bobbing up 11:46, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes. Yes, this is true. Only now do I realize the magnitude of my folly. I expect it will take months to get past the trauma. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 11:54, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Dearest Bob, please go vent your anger elsewhere, maybe you could burn a crucifix? Akjeldsen, windmills are the most common form of secondary schools in Denmark. Prove me wrong. TmtamesP 14:18, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Bohdan, Bohdan, Bohdan. We go to school in order to learn how to build windmills (which, I might mention in passing, is one of the more important exports of Denmark and consistently of exceedingly high quality. Order yours today!) - not the other way around. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:26, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmm. According to our Danes article, you are correct. Is it true most school teachers are elves?  Or are those the college professors?  TmtamesP 14:31, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * No, that's college professors. I suspect most school teachers are in fact trolls, although that's only based on my personal experience, mind you. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:37, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, your poor grasp of general knowledge leads me to believe you are lying, and have never attended any school at all. Excpet a windmill trade school. TmtamesP 15:59, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * BTW, "Excpet" is a scholarly way of saying "except". TmtamesP 16:00, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * "Windmill trade school?" That would be our Technical University. We train engineers there, you know. WORLD-CLASS engineers! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:48, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Nukelar Power?

 * For a while, I thought of doing my Master Thesis on windmills in Denmark. Some professors from there came to our University to talk about them. At the end I chose the only real alternative to coal instead. Editor at CPfor a change 16:54, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Nuclear? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:58, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Nucelar. please. let's go with teh Bush.SusanG 16:59, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Always have. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:01, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Either goes for me, but yes, that is the answer. Editor at CPfor a change 17:06, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, and keep in mind that I am a radical environmentalist. Editor at CPfor a change 17:07, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * And Susan, is nucular wrong? I thought that was the correct Bushist term. Editor at CPfor a change 17:08, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Nukular? SusanG 17:10, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm not really too fond of nuclear power. I can see the point with CO2 and such, but it seems to create a lot of other nasty waste materials. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:14, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Undent Alternatives? SusanG 17:18, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I have no idea, to be honest, but I'd imagine a good place to start would be a combination of windmills, solar power, and maybe using less energy in the first place. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:28, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Of course you are anti-nuclear power. You are anti-science, choosing rather to rely on the big Ju-Ju Dane in the sky for energy. TmtamesP 17:35, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

As long as the Earth's population continues to groqw at its present rate & people's aspirations increase, there will be need for more & more power. "Natural" resources will find it difficult to keep up. SusanG 17:44, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes, well. I don't really have any solutions, I just don't like nuclear power. Although I suppose I could live with it as long as they don't wante to bury the waste in my back yard. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:54, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Nuclear waste was my field of competence, to be honest. There's so much demagogy and disinformation there! While I still am a "radical" environmentalist, I no longer support environmentalist groups, and am ashamed to have voted for the Green Party in my youth. The amount of falsity, disinformation and ignorance is near the level of CP. Today I only have faith in science. For all things nuclear, I suggest the IAEA website, with plenty of public material. It is a super partes institution by the UN, whatever environmentalists from one side and Bush from the other declare. I also suggest a visit to the English language portions of STUK, SKI (Finnish and Swedish nuclear authorities) and to Posiva or SKB, the Finnish and Swedish agencies for the disposal of spent nuclear fuel. I don't know if they can be called "agencies", since by law they are founded and funded by the nuclear power companies in the respective countries, under the strict control of the nuclear authorities. Akjeldsen, I'm not here to convince you. Let me just say that I consider every rational person's "duty" to inform him/herself about important issues, such as this, from the relevant, authoritative sources. I didn't realize before that even prestigious newspapers take for real information by Greenpeace. And I didn't realize before that the "scientific" studies by Greenpeace, at least regarding nuclear power, are bullshit propaganda, sometimes committed to lawyer firms, not scientists. I am less happy by Bush's support for nuclear power. And I am less happy by the American nuclear culture. Soon Eastern Europe and Russia will surpass the USA regarding nuclear safety.
 * But for the most relevant question, nuclear waste is not so big a problem. More, unmonitored and unregulated, radiation comes from the radon in the walls of the deep tunnels - as from every deep tunnel under the Earth surface, at least in many parts of the world. Editor at CPfor a change 18:26, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I am left after reading your comment (but not your links) asking... "so where do we put it?" The stuff isn't exactly harmless, and no one wants it in their backyard, or buried in their mountain, or dumped in their local subduction zone... so, what do we do with it? human  21:57, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * There is, as yet, no known method of disposing safely of the material.  Really.   Humankind has no track record in creating indestructible containment vessels or methods that will last 10,000 years, and has no practical way of proving lifetime claims for such technologies.   Not a single attempt humankind has ever made to create an impenetrable container has ever succeeded in the long term.   Every single technology proposed today for the disposal of high-level nuclear waste is subject to enormous problems  - some simple, some complex.   While fission certainly has some short-term environmental benefits, and (rashly, perhaps) assuming that the danger of accidents can be overcome (despite the industry's track record), the long-term problems are simply not ones that can be ignored.   I personally view this recent 'greening' of nuclear with horror, and quite some suspicion.   DogP  22:12, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I only ask because I live within 20 niles of two waste "depositories" - Seabrook Station, the last US nuke ever brought on-line (thanksalot, they bankrupted our power company, "too cheap to meter" turned into USD 0.10/kwh, yikes!), and the "Portsmouth Navy blah blah", which is actually in Kittery, Maine, where they work on nuclear subs. So, "NIMBY" doesn't work -- because, well, it's in my backyard anyway! Random comments, courtesy of this dumbass --> human  23:39, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Human, you are quite safe I would say. I have no idea about the Navy though. Eventually the spent nuclear fuel from Seabrook will be transported, processed and buried under Yucca Mountain, which is quite far from your place, isn't it? By the way, there is quite a significant amount of scientific and technical literature online in the US too. Both the Department of Energy and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (?) should have free libraries.
 * DogP, what are you afraid of? I would really like to hear about these "enormous problems - some simple, some complex" that you are talking about. What are these "long-term" problems? It is true that Yucca Mountain follows a different philosophy than us in Europe, but still.
 * And about accidents. It is true, there is danger and there will always be. The probability of the core melting of a new nuclear power plant must be under 1 in 200 000 every year. For old plants it is somewhat higher. But the probability of "significant" leaks of radioactivity must be under 1 in ten million every year. And with significant on average we mean much less than Tchernobyl. DogP, your view is shared by many people, and politicians. It is a view that every year kills many more people than Tchernobyl in its lifetime. I am not anymore in the nuclear industry - this is my green heart speaking now. Editor at CPfor a change 04:27, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Sir Henry and his Butlers

 * And what do you have against Sir Henry and his Butlers? TmtamesP 17:36, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * SHahB were a mockery of all that is true and good in this world. And of music. And good taste. We cannot let this aberration be known to the wider world. They would all laugh at us. :-( -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:40, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * SHahB? I feel another username change coming on... TmtamesP 17:41, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Traveller RPG?
Hey, AJ, how come you appear to know so much about the Traveller RPG? Are you an RPG-er or did you just look it all up on the Traveller wikia? Spica the Hiver If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 04:36, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm a gamer, for about 16 years. :-) Love the Traveller setting, although I've never actually managed to play it very much. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 11:13, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yay! w00t! Yehaw! I thought I was the only gamer here! XD Spica the Hiver If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 15:15, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Come to the dark side, both of you. Forget your dependance on a GM, become a miniature wargamer! Forget those children fantasies, come to the side of historical battles. Forget your fantasy equipment and discuss about the right colour of an epaulette or of the cuff piping of the Grenadier company of the second battalion of the 96th Regiment during two months of 1806. Forget the GM's adjusting of the rules and come to the joy of one hour setting the battlefield, two hours quarrelling about the rules and one hour saying "goodbye, maybe next time we'll finally see some action". Editor at CPfor a change 15:23, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * While I don't really know any wargamers, I imagine they're much like military historians. And since I know that I don't have the... particular mindset necessary to do the latter, I don't think I could do the former, either. Although I certainly recognize the huge historical debt that the RPG community owes to the wargaming community. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:44, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Anal military history and uniformology is where every military wargamer will end before or later, but it's not the first step. First comes the love for scale modeling, miniatures, dioramas, as realistic as possible. You don't get this with trolls or robots. Then there is the challenge of the battle. Kind of chess, but in a sense more difficult and rewarding, since every battle is different AND there is a factor of unpredictability (that a word?) given by the dice; still the best usually wins. Applying historical tactics and being able to react to unpredicted events is key to victory, but without having to know by heart half a dozen chess opening books. Editor at CPfor a change 18:34, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, well, I'm afraid you lost me with the scale modelling. Now, calculating the economic indicators and trade patterns of an entire Imperial Sector, on the other hand - that's good fun! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:17, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

I used to play the very early "adventure" games (text only on DOS machines) & started on MUD years later. The early graphics really put me off & I never got back on. SusanG 17:48, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I only got into computer gaming in the early-to-mid-nineties, so I managed to bypass the worst of the ugly stage. The quality of RPG/adventure games seems to have been going down recently, though. Or maybe it's just me getting old(er). -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:57, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Just thinking back; it was the seventies - I've been tryingto remember some of the games but they came on those 5" floppies & even if I'd still got 'em I couldn't read 'em. SusanG 18:03, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Heck, I wasn't even born in the seventies. I've heard stories that they were dark and barbaric times, though. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:14, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * No, we had electricingty even back then! No Interweb though. SusanG 18:16, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Exactly! How did you survive?! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:24, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * We had these things called F R I E N D S and indulged in C O N V E R S AT I O N SusanG 18:30, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Ok, these words carry some meaning for me. What I don't see is how you would get such "friends" together for "conversation" without email and electronic calendars to coordinate the event. The logistics involved much have been almost insurmountable. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:17, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * We used to go "out", this is the volume of space beyond the walls that surround us. There are many "real people" out there! WARNING: you might have to work a little to locate compatible "people", but it can be worth it! SusanG 10:07, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

''calculating the economic indicators and trade patterns of an entire Imperial Sector, on the other hand - that's good fun! '' Oh noes! Not... Accounting in Space!! My Trav games are always more "Bugs, Mr Rico, millions of 'em!" "Shoot them then, corporal!" XD Spica the Hiver If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 10:40, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Better than that: NATIONAL ECONOMICS! IN SPACE! :D My upcoming Traveller-inspired campaign will be very trade-centered - the old "tramp freighter w/ small crew trying to survive" concept - but probably eventually moving into either corporate or national politics. I'm developing some interesting spreadsheets for it. ;-) -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 10:57, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Susan! "The early graphics really put me off & I never got back on", how can you say something like that? I hope you don't include the Ultima saga in that early graphics. Ultima V, the best game ever made. The 320x200 CGA or EGA (four or 16 shades of green on my computer) graphics let your mind wander, use your phantasy, imagine things, like reading a good novel or playing a good RPG. What is sad is that I recently downloaded one of those early, magnificent Ultimas (4, 5 or 6) - but the graphics put me off now. I have lost the innocence of childhood. Still, it is a free download that I recommend to everybody. Editor at CPfor a change 11:00, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I also had lots of trauma - and no computer and - no incentive etc for years :( SusanG 11:07, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Mentor
Anders, or should I say Andreas, I have changed. Part of it had to do with your comments. Please, will you mentor me, and let me be your wiki-protégé? If you are not up to such a commitment, please let me know so I can ask Ames. Thanks.

"I am not myself in any degree ashamed of having changed my opinions" -- Bertrand Russell. SHahB 00:06, 6 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Just to clarify, would this mean that I would get to, as young people say these days, "school" you on a regular basis? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:51, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes, and curse those youths for their insolence! SHahB 14:32, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I see. To be honest, I don't think I could handle such a commitment without horribly abusing it, so you had better ask Ames. He seems to still have, y'know, morals and a sense of responsibility and... stuff. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:44, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * But... he's not a Dane. Just a plain old American. Eew. SHahB 14:46, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * True, but there's a minuscule chance he might be of Danish descent! Almost as good! -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:48, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

Its a great day to be Danish
Whoo-hoo! I think I'll have some of my special bacon today! SHahB 14:31, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * It is indeed! I for one welcome our new electronically advanced Danish overlords! But then I would, wouldn't I? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:46, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Electronics? I thought it said we had the best network of windmills. But your interpretation is good too. SHahB 14:48, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * You need computers to build windmills and the windmills power the computers, so it's the same thing in the end, really. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:50, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Did you hear their going to put up a windmill in the shape of Tommy Seebachs head in the Favrskov municipality? Good old Tommy... SHahB 14:56, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I still eagerly await my government-issued 10kW backyard windmill in my goal of decentralized, renewable energy to replace fossil/capital account sources. Oops, I didn't say anything about the Danish.  OK, they were yummy!  Nice breakfast. human  15:36, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

Ultranationalism
Its your type that gives us a bad name in the rest of Europe. Please stop propagating the ultranationalist myth of Kierkegaard's Danishness. He was Swedish, and everyone except you and the other revisionists have accepted that. SHahB 15:32, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I request that you immediately cease and desist spreading these lies about Kierkegaard. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 15:44, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Warning
Stop posting perverse Gutter Danish profanity on my talk page. I have a dictionary. I know what is being said. SHahB 17:03, 16 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Let's make a deal. I'll stop posting profanity on your user talk page and you stop spreading lies about Kierkegaard. Reasonable? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 17:10, 16 April 2008 (EDT)
 * No, the radical ultra nationalist revisionist fringe has to stop embarrassing our nation with these pathetic claims. Kierkegaard was SWEDISH.  Get over it, you extremist. SHahB 17:13, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

Our beautiful country
This this brings a tear to my Danish eye. Even though you and I differ on our opinions on what it means to be a Dane, I think we can join together and sing "Der er et yndigt land det står med brede bøge nær salten østerstrand Det bugter sig i bakke, dal det hedder gamle Danmark og det er Frejas sal!" --SHahB 01:09, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Wait, what? I thought I was the one being cast as the ultranationalist here. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 03:06, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Your such a silly ultranationslist. Can't we sing together? SHahB 11:06, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Anders, you are not being "cast as the ultranationalist", sadly you are an ultranationalist. Our tolerant nation is shamed by your kind. Please, consider rejecting this narrow ideology. SHahB 12:57, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Hey, you're the one who wants us to spontaneously break into a rousing rendition of the national anthem for no apparent reason at all. If that's not indicative of a deeply nationalist personality, I don't know what is. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 07:19, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Also, your punctuation in that verse sucks. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 07:21, 18 April 2008 (EDT)