RationalWiki talk:Kitzmiller v. Dover annotated transcript

Wow, this is a huge project! Kudos to the people who get it done. A link to the source might help others add?  ħ uman  03:20, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Would love to Human, but I don't know where to get them from - at least in a user-friendly way (which is why I started this mad project in the first place). A friend in Los Angeles ordered the transcript from the PACER service, and he sent me the files as PDF. I'm converting them offline. They are available as the National Science website, but (at a glance) they look like the same files I already have, so the same extensive text formatting is needed either way. VOX  HUMANA  03:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * However your comments have prompted me to change tactics somewhat. I'm now going to focus on getting ALL of the text cleaned and uploaded, instead of uploading a portion and formatting it before moving on. VOX  HUMANA  04:14, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking around it appears that talk.origins has a formatted copy, but it's not annotated so far as I can tell. It might save you a bit of time. Peter mqzp 04:20, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * That was blocked at work but I can see it from home - excellent, thanks. It will save a lot of time. VOX  HUMANA  07:30, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Why would they be blocked (and RW not)? Peter mqzp 07:33, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No idea. I've wondered that myself on many occasions. VOX  HUMANA  09:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Exhibit list
Where should we put reference to this? The lawyers have a tendency to not say what they're talking about beyond the designation, so lists like that are quite useful. Peter mqzp 02:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll create a new page for it. Eventually we'll link from the transcript to the exhibit items.
 * On the topic of new pages, it is my long-term goal to rename all of the pages to something relevant to the page's content. But the PXXX naming format is nice and easy to work with at this stage of development. VOX  HUMANA  03:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * A new page for trial resources such as that, or a new page in which the exhibit table is reproduced? Peter mqzp 04:18, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I was thinking a table of the exhibits, with context added where desired/possible. But better ideas are welcome, of course. VOX  HUMANA  04:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Peter mqzp 04:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Future reference

 * Kevin Padian's slides&mdash;can't find Miller's, unfortunately. Peter mqzp 07:09, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sweet. Just FYI, I'm locked in recording sessions all Easter, so I'll be absent from RW pretty much until Tuesday. VOX  HUMANA  11:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Peter (and anyone else) - I found a deleted article on WP which had an impressive array of links to resources - since copied to a user page. Some of the links are dead, but many are not. VOX  HUMANA  23:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Uploading and Formatting Progress report

 * 1) 02 Apr 2013 - everything up to Day 3 - Cross of Robert Pennock (page 12) formatted. VOX  HUMANA  05:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) 03 Apr 2013 - all of Day 3 uploaded, formatted and sectioned. Morning of day 4 uploaded and formatted. VOX  HUMANA  06:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 3) 04 Apr 2013 - Everything up to P017 uploaded, formatted and sectioned. Up to P022 uploaded and formatted. VOX  HUMANA  01:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) 08 Apr 2013 - Everything up to P018 uploaded, formatted and sectioned. Up to P030 uploaded and formatted. VOX  HUMANA  23:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) 09 Apr 2013 - Everything up to P020 uploaded, formatted and sectioned. Up to P040 uploaded and formatted. VOX  HUMANA  23:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 6) 21 Apr 2013 - Everything up to P021 uploaded, formatted and sectioned. Up to P056 uploaded and formatted. Easter disrupted things a bit. VOX  HUMANA  03:08, 22 April 2013 (UTC)