Talk:What Darwin Got Wrong

BON addition of syllogism
Our BON friend copy-pasta'd a section from An Outline of the Fodor & Piattelli-Palmarini Argument against Natural Selection, by Norbert Hornstein. The full "logical" statement reads, in full:

I... am not sure what this argument is asserting. 01:57, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

'Creationism'
Why does this page have the "Creationism" navigation template and why is it in the "Creationism" category? Both of the authors of this book were atheists. 2A01:E35:8BDF:8420:993:BBCC:DDFF:8B52 (talk) 21:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Categories are to help editors navigate. Creationists are mentioned in the article, and the book is apparently of interest to them. Furthermore, the arguments made in the book have some resemblance to arguments made by creationists, so other creationist content on the wiki is related, so the navigation makes sense. Omicron (talk) 21:06, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The book is not on a creationist topic nor are the authors creationists. No creationist was involved in the book. None of the arguments made by the authors were made by creationists. In particular, the second part of the book is an original argument which was not made by anyone, besides Fodor, prior to its release. Creationists may "like" lots of different things, however, it does not follow that X is a creationist book just because creationists like X. Moreover, other books on this topic, such as As Thomas Nagel's Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False, are classified under "Philosophy." As such, the current "Creationism" template is not accurate.156.34.53.54 (talk) 15:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Discussion on creationism that was removed due to constant edit warring
Edit war a few too many times under different ips, get a discussion closed and a page lock. Revision for those interested. Others can bring up discussion again, though, this measure was taken to reduce the edit warring and a stronger measure to dismiss the anon editor. 18:28, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Intensional/Intentional
I stumbled upon this article by chance, I haven't read this work or come into contact with it before, but just as I was reviewing some logic stuff this article puzzled me because of its (inconsistent) use of language: in one paragraph it writes 'intensional' while in the next it writes about 'intentionality'. Now while not entirely unrelated, philosophically and in logic and language these are very different things and the distinction is important. I don't immediately see how what they talk about is 'intensional' in the way it is used in logic, but perhaps they use it with a broader (archaic) meaning. As I haven't read the work, I wouldn't know how they spelt it, but on the talk page something copied from a deprecated source (I haven't checked archive yet) also uses the 'intension' spelling with an 's'. The article using both spellings is a bit confusing though, although perhaps it's because critics used 'intention' and the authors on this subject meant the same thing? I also don't see how 'nomological laws' would be an intensional explanation here, but perhaps that's on me and there's just something I don't know, or it's because the original argument is such dogshit (pardon my language) that it just doesn't make sense anyway, cause ascribing 'intention' to nomological laws also seems peculiar for as far as I know, though perhaps it's doable with just a bit of an 'off' meaning. I was just going to fix the spelling, but as I'm not sure now I thought I'd just point it out and await the opinion of someone with relevant knowledge, lest my edit otherwise just make the article worse. ConverginglyRational (talk) 14:53, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Should anyone answer to this, I do see how it could be 'intensional' as they refer to properties as opposed to purely extension (because of correlations), considering counterfactuals, for being able to give an account of a difference of the necessity of properties versus accidens properties etc. I suppose. Meanwhile on 'the other wiki' as it stands now, I see the same use of 'intension' and 'intention', both of them, so without background in this particular discussion perhaps I jumped the gun on the spelling. I still think perhaps this article could be improved, although if there have already been edit-wars over this perhaps that's tricky. I don't know how things are/were on wikipedia with the relevant article, perhaps we should link to it here though as it's a bit more expansive than ours at the moment. While it seems relevant to the current category, wouldn't the philosophy category still fit too, considering its authors and the philosophical discussion? However perhaps two big categories on a small article is silly, I'm not sure how these categories are usually done, whether combinations happen often. In any case I'll leave it be for now, I'm not the person to work on this as I haven't read the relevant works any way. ConverginglyRational (talk) 16:07, 9 November 2022 (UTC)