Talk:Indian alt-right glossary/Archive1

Good start
Thanks for persisting on this,. Bongolian (talk) 22:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * No worries, thanks for the help. I'm not really spun-up on this field but know folks on Reddit who are and are really trying to make Reddit aware of how nasty some subs are, but the Anti-Evil Ops team just doesn't "get" the inside bigot jokes. So I've discreetly pinged reliable online activists to pitch in.


 * Speaking of which, I'm keeping this project slightly quiet (in terms of not announcing it publicly on Reddit) because r/Chodi (big extremist sub) has a Discord they use to organize brigades. At some point they'll find this and possibly get upset. Do you reckon the strategy would be to have me keep an eye on it when it goes public and then contact an Admin if it starts getting incessantly vandalized? TapTheForwardAssist (talk) 00:59, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If there's excessive vandalism at some point, we usually protect the page from general edits (usually autopatrolled- and/or Sysop-only protection), so I wouldn't get too worried about that. Bongolian (talk) 01:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Pajeet
Can you disentangle the different meanings of 'pajeet' any better than me? As far as I can tell, it was initially an unusual English spelling for an Indian given-name (Pajit), then became slur aimed at various groups depending on context (low-caste, Muslims, or South Asians in general). As a slur, it seems to have started with public reaction to the campaign, usually referred to as 'poo in the loo' in this context. The term seems to have migrated from intra-Indian usage into the broader alt-right. Bongolian (talk) 22:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Pajeet is used more by the white alt-right to refer to mostly south-asians, and as a racist term to refer to people taking adump on the streets or in the public.


 * Also, I guess I'm doing this wrong. I have no idea how most of t his works, so rather than directly making changes I'd rather discuss here. -as53 &mdash; Unsigned, by: As53 / talk / contribs


 * Pajeet is often used in context of outsourced jobs, implying an unskilled worker replacing a (more skilled) local or a useless helpdesk employee with a strong accent. --178.235.13.158 (talk) 18:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Ricebag
Note: there's an older term that was used like this: Bongolian (talk) 05:08, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Pasmandu
Derogatory term for lower caste Muslims. Generally used by Hindu supremacists as an insult to Muslims. The alt-right is now using it to for all liberals and leftists.
 * Muslims are by definition outside the caste system, so can't be "lower caste". Bongolian (talk) 19:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well yes but Muslim communities in South Asia apply a system of social stratification. It developed as a result of ethnic segregation between the foreign conquerors (Ashraf) and the local converts (Ajlaf). So they do essentially have their own caste system even though they are not part of the Hindu caste system. TheVolatileWalker (talk)

Katwa/Katua or K2A
The word Katwa is essentially the N-word for Indian Muslims.

The word "Katwa" or "Katua" is derived from the hindi word "kat" or "कट” which means the same as the English word "cut". It is derived from the fact that most Muslim males tend to have a circumcised penis where the foreskin is "cut off". K2A is just the an abbreviation of katwa. The word "katwa" refers to the fact that the foreskin of muslims is circumcised or "cut off". Muslims are the only community in India who are circumcised whereas Hindus, Sikhs and Christians are not circumcised(ignoring a few exceptions). Therefore katwa is a highly racially derogatory word as it seperates Indian Muslims from other Indians and tries to say that they are outlandish or "alien" and that they are inferior. TheVolatileWalker (talk)


 * will incorporate. Welcome aboard! And feel free to discreetly spread word of this project to like-minded people. But let's not be too public about it on Reddit yet lest the denizens of Those Subs turn their Discord brigade here. TapTheForwardAssist (talk) 23:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Betichod?
That's also going to need an explanation. Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 13:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * No, it is not hate speech. It is a common slang in India (like motherfucker in the west). It literally means daughter-fucker. TheVolatileWalker (talk)
 * Was not a part of my working vocabulary. Now I'll have to try to work it into every possible conversation. Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 21:02, 1 April 2020 (UTC)