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Don't be a baby about swear words. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to beat around the bush when discussing abusive language, though I do place such words in quotes to avoid the impression that I support them. 17:00, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The word "fuck" isn't going to cause anyone any harm. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 17:03, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Fuck banning the word fuck. 17:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't want to blow this out of proportion, he didn't "ban" it, he made it tag edits adding it as "potentially offensive", growing out of an edit filter built around racial slurs(that he also created). ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 17:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I apologize, I was being a bit hyperbolic in my attempt at levity. 17:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

The filter is logging only as I want to see how often people swear to better consider how to define something else I am thinking about. Your precious swear words are safe. :p 20:35, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

You horse's ass
I didn't start the vote early, some other ding-a-ling did, I was just the first to vote. 172.58.15.69 (talk) 21:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Damn, your right. It was Tabula Rasa who started the vote early. 21:39, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I apologies for my transgressions. Commie Lib (talk) 21:41, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Why are you cooperating with these absolute pieces of anti-White Judeo-Communist garbage?
You fucking retard. Philip (talk) 20:46, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * No really. What do you think I am? 20:48, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Misunderstanding
Regarding my Saloon bar edit you reverted: I added that comment because I had suspicions that User:Freeatlast is Logicnsuch. I wanted the comment to serve as a warning to Freeat last, and as an alert to the mods. This new user introduced a rather Logicnsuchish topic at the Saloon bar (Most ridiculous person you've ever met?). Furthermore, Freeatlast's description in the previous comment ("made an entire movie about George W. Bush using 4 pieces of paper and a cheap red camera") seems disturbingly similar to what was shown in Logicnsuch's video VIYCE, which raised red flags on my part, so I highlighted that in my comment.

You don't have to restore my comment, but do be warned if Freeatlast turns out to be Logicnsuch. Cheers. 77.111.245.44 (talk) 13:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Right now I am going on the premise that anyone who mentions LogicnSuch is probably either them or trolling, and that per DFTT the bar is not really the best place to list Logicnsuch's accounts anyway even if it was important (which is isn't unless they are being a real annoyance). This includes not mentioning that Science 3.0 Youtube channel of theirs. I will keep an eye on Freeatlast since you insist, but imo they become very obvious when they start complaining about their "resource" et al Youtube, and/or asking endlessly who Logicnsuch is. 15:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * What? Freeatlast (talk) 15:28, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah I have no clue either, carry on as if nothing had happened. 16:14, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * OK then. That edit is pretty weird. Freeatlast (talk) 17:50, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * CC:, ,
 * Treat my aforementioned suspicions as falsifiable hypotheses that were made prior to the unfolding of these events:
 * Freeatlast explicitly mentioning Logicnsuch's movie VIYCE in the Saloon Bar
 * Edit-warring with User:Spud at the Jehovah's Witness article
 * Making unsourced claims in various articles, several of which are as important for inclusion in a RW article as irrelevant trivia: one, two, three, four. Spud had to intervene and add  templates to some of these claims. Unlike my Saloon Bar comment, Freeatlast's edits have yet to be reverted.
 * But of course, the above evidence is only circumstantial, right? Let's give the guy autopatrolled priviledges. 77.111.245.44 (talk) 07:10, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Last I checked there was more than one disgruntled ex-JW. Why can't people wait until people have more than five fucking edits before asking for them to be blocked? You know as well as anyone that everything you have presented is circumstantial. Plus, for all I know you could be Logicnsuch trying to get us to block the wrong people in a fit a revenge. Chill out and wait. 10:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Very well. We'll see. To be fair, I have made a mistake before — as you have correctly pointed out, I incorrectly thought that User:2Cute4U was one of his socks. But having a little less naïveté on all sides would go a long way. 77.111.245.59 (talk) 11:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Welp if you are still here since then, then why not register for an account and block 'em yourself? xD By the by, I am pretty sure adding pings doesn't work unless re-signed in a certain way. One of those idiosyncrasies of the software. 11:58, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * In case you were wondering, I knew I'd been pinged. Frankly, right now I couldn't care less if Freeatlast is LogicNSuch. I am, however, a bit concerned that somebody who says on their user page that they want to make fun of Jehovah's Witnesses is just making up lies in order to do just that. Spud (talk) 12:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well I will let you do whatever you deem necessary on that. I am not the most unbiased person to be judging the quality of their edits in that area. 12:55, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I have told you before that I already have an account here. A sysop account in fact. (I can prove this while remaining anonymous.) No, I won't use my main account to block them. Unlike someone who's inclined to post ridiculously detailed information about themselves, while online I tend to value my privacy a little more. I think I have revealed too much while using my main account; I don't want people coming after me. And in such a situation, just to block them, it'll be quite hypocritical for me to get myself a sock.
 * I must confess, initially while starting to commenting on Logicnsuch's talk page last October, my motive was to out-troll the troll, either by tiring them out, or by feeding them till they get blocked. A powerless, captcha-constrained BoN who only occasionally comments can still have an edge over a spammer who would go on to give themselves 15+ chances to get more edit privileges just by creating accounts.
 * Apart from this silly Logicnsuch-related drama, I also occasionally wanna make some snarky comments in the Saloon bar (like these — but not everyone who has similar IP addresses is actually me though). While harmless, I don't really want my main account to be associated with frivolous things like that. Hope you understand. 77.111.245.59 (talk) 13:39, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * a'gas mab-gov ;) 13:44, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I got 77's ping. And unless you see a really obvious sign that is  (e.g. "Go ahead and talk over VIYCE/my awesome, REAL novell that has virtually zero plot whatsoever/unblock me cause I'm getting sick of these infinite bans/etc. blah blah blah this is RATIONALWiki after all, and a wiki calling itself "rational" should allow me to indulge in my narcissism, or insisting on inserting links to his Science 2.0 "YouTOOB" vanity project that "|is NO A jokes, thonks Liberal ATEIST idiots", then I don't recommend taking any punitive action. I say we give FAL a chance and wait to see if he turns out to be LNS or not. After all, we all know that Logicnsuch is terrible at sockpuppetry. -- Goatspeed.  05:11, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The user was blocked already, at 00:17, 3 March 2019. This happened after an attempt to insert a link to a YouTube video in the Saloon Bar, which Dysk had to remove. Before that a new user Mees tried to insert this Sequiera-novel into the Saloon bar and got blocked at 05:23, 1 March 2019. Then there's 50.232.248.216, who did the same and got blocked. And User:Lnslns before that was blocked at 14:52, 28 February 2019. And User:OkM8, blocked 17:05, 2 March 2019. And User:101010101, blocked 17:48, 26 February 2019. And User:Science20, blocked 17:39, 25 February 2019. User:Moneytender, 21:42, 14 February 2019. User:Noworries6, 17:01, 14 February 2019. And the 14 or so accounts in my Saloon bar comment.
 * Now, all the vandalism to the Francis Hitching, YHWH, Jehovah's Witnesses etc. etc. articles have to be reverted. User:Tabula Rasa would be proud, after being this oblivious towards sockpuppetry on more than one occasion. 77.111.245.155 (talk) 09:12, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Alas I showed them way too much of that "good faith" attitude. 11:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Carnivore diet
I would gladly return there, but if you read what you had deleted you would see the talk page is locked. Which is why I posted there. Liberosaurus Rex (talk) 11:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I read it. Unless I am mistaken you have the correct user-rights to edit said talkpage so you can continue with the debate. I am not going to unlock the page itself because the trolls will just do their thing again.
 * Mind you, I could mistaken and you actually need to get this: RationalWiki:Autoconfirmed. So if that's the case then go fix some typos or something and resume the debate later. 11:16, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I can't edit it so I guess it's locked at a higher level. But sure, I can wait to be autoconfirmed if that's the grade. Liberosaurus Rex (talk) 11:29, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah I was hoping that giving you the higher level autopatrolled user-right would allow you to override it, but that doesn't seem to work. And for some inexplicable reason this Wiki doesn't have any way to grant "confirmed" manually. 11:32, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Liberosaurus Rex
Some sock named User:Air Force One claimed that User:Liberosaurus Rex is a sock of a banned user. See here: User talk:Bongolian. Do you have any thoughts on this? Bongolian (talk) 22:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * On this occasion that user first appeared as Dinocrisis and was blocked by ikanreed for using a name too similar to retired contributor DinoCrisis. They then re-registered as Liberosaurus Rex, fairly quickly lots of sockpuppets appeared claiming that this is Mikemikev, and someone created an account called Defemation rex. Subsequently Liberosaurus Rex emailed me complaining about admin misconduct from John66, (also here) resulting in the section above on my talk page. Since then they started talking some bollocks about living crystals or somesuch nonsense on the Talk:Life, followed as far as I can tell by logging out and talking slightly more coherently about RNA.
 * In the meantime, I have received a great many emails from people claiming variously to be Abd Lomax, Mikemikev, Oliver Smith, and some others who are presumably their associates. Which has been a general assortment of threats (nasty kind), conflicting information, complaints about various people, and all caps rants accusing me of being a Zionist/neo-Nazi/Antifa scumbag etc. Someone has gleefully written an article on the Cold Fusion Community website which is supposed affiliated with Abd, and contains a detailed profile of me.
 * There is supposedly some kind of feud between Mikemikev and Smith, both of which have fought on other fora such as Twitter and Wikipedia (where everyone involved in this dispute is banned). This may have included some kind of lawsuit which resulted in the Aeschylus incident. Subsequently I attempted to resolve the issue with Smiths newer account, Arcticos in which nothing of relevance was concluded beyond them saying the lawsuit wasn't related to anything that happened on RationalWiki (directly contradicting what they had said the week before. duh).
 * Pretty much I would just block them all, except that we don't do that here much and the majority of these people(s) 85+ existing accounts (that I know as a definite) are not blocked. The "real" Smith is a sysop under a known account (and has been a sysop under two other accounts at least) with another sysop account that is probably also his, and the email-people who might be Abd seem to have access to viewdelete. Additionally, multiple accounts have not implausibly claimed that John66 is in some way related to Smith (supposedly a brother). In any case the abundance of long term sleepers makes the idea of blocking them all a probable exercise in futility.
 * Oh and this feud has been going on for years it seems, and the parties involved impersonate each other so much both on and off-wiki it is impossible to even tell who's who, or even if they aren't all just the same person playing an elaborate puppet game with multiple accounts. Such a bundle of fun.
 * To return to the topic of Liberosaurus Rex, I don't actually know for sure who they are. I would advise to disregard anything that anyone talking about mikemikev says and just make up your own mind on whether they are a formerly banned troll, or some new person that may or may not be a troll. It's not like there is only one mad neo-nazi, and being paranoid is bad. 23:51, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * @ Bongolian, there's conclusive IP evidence:
 * Liberosaurus Rex = 82.132.215.120 (he exposed his IP while posting as Rex and has also admitted to being this IP on Talk:Life)
 * Now click on a related IP to see who this is:82.132.246.186. It's not rocket science - Vekimikem (spell backwards because of new word filter) has been blocked before using the same IP range.Air Force One (talk) 02:25, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * On a final note, you can simply compare social media profiles to see who is doing the impersonations. Vekimikem is banned from Facebook, Twitter etc for impersonating other users. ODS isn't and has normal social media profiles. Vekimikem is a nutcase banned on all of social media for deranged behaviours - he was creating fake profiles of other users so they suspended his main account. http://archive.is/2nPCM and deleted the fakes. Air Force One (talk) 02:25, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

I blocked Liberosaurus Rex because several other users pointed out he was a banned sock-puppet, including a user called Desert Heat. Until yesterday I had never heard of Mikemikev. I tend to avoid drama or talk-pages on this website. Most of my edits are creating articles. From now on I will totally avoid talk-pages. I use this website to document research, I am not here to get involved in petty arguments.

I spent about twelve hours writing the carnivore diet article the other day. The Rex account vandalised the article after I created it then out of the 38 sources, cherry-picked a single one claiming I had misrepresented it on the talk-page (I am open to fair criticism but this was blatant trolling), I did not misrepresent what was in the source. Early humans did not eat a meat only diet... there is not enough data on this subject to know eveything but the data we do have obviously demonstrates we are omnivores. This user Rex or someone associated with him then started socking and writing threats to me which were deleted. He also harassed me on another sock on my talk-page. Until last week I did not know who Abd Lomax was but he has written about 100,000 words about me on his blog claiming I work for a skeptic organization to debunk low-carbers on Rationalwiki and that I am a Smith relative. If Rex is Mikemikev then that is probably why he has targeted me, this would explain his trolling in relation to the carnivore diet. In regard to what Abd says on his blog, I am not related to anyone on this website. I have received funding before on other websites for debunking certain topics, but never this website.

Abd has apparently targeted me because I have been debunking low carb quackery and cholesterol denialism. I read over his blog today. He has heart disease and he has been eating a high-fat diet for the last 15 years... He refuses statins and is opposed to evidence-based medicine. He is basically offended by science refuting his irrational low-carb position so has chosen to take it out on me. I am not associated with Smith, Mikemikev or any of these other people, but I seem to be a target now. I use this website to debunk bad dieting ideas, nothing else. This is the only account I have, obviously I cannot prove that to you but it is the truth. I am in the process of adding an email, so I can talk to anyone in private if they need be. I could easily confirm my identity to anyone who wants a phone call or skype etc if needed. Take care. John66 (talk) 02:41, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the background, Dysklyver. I can vouch for the quality work of, and for the general avoidance of drama. I was the one who made him Sysop. Bongolian (talk) 05:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * John66, I appreciate your point about avoiding petty arguments and commend your viewpoint. If you could just block anyone else looking suspicious as and when they appear then everything should be cool. Personally I consider it amazing how one or two trolls can write such a huge amount of bollocks on that blog, and I haven't read barely any of it yet, but I understand that Mikemikev normally rants about racialism, and Abd rants about a variety of things, seemingly also including his favorite woo diet, but at least the drama (to the extent there is drama) is relatively contained. On the subject of Skype thingies, you are always welcome on the Discord. :) 11:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * None of the socks that showed up with names similar to mine to harass and threaten my opponents were me. No threatening or harassing emails were sent by me. It was clearly some kind of false flag activity to get everyone banned and everything locked. Naturally it's impossible to say who was responsible. Liberosaurus Rex (talk) 13:04, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Certainly the main concern with this situation is that legitimate users would be affected. How things turn out regarding your account is not yet clear to me. 13:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

The IP evidence is undeniable that Rex is a racist banned sock that everybody knows here. He has been banned on RW on many socks before for racialism but now is trying a stealth approach. His recent IP addresses use the same IP range and trace to the same location:

The IPS Rex used yesterday 82.132.215.120, 82.132.215.134 match the banned sock 82.132.246.186 (check the talk-page). He is the same banned person. His obsession was racialism, 82.132.220.230 on many other 82.132 IPs has been well documented on RW. He is the only person who uses that range on RW, it is not a coincidence. It is not rocket science to see this. The IP evidence is undeniable. Tremors (talk) 14:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * IP evidence is bollocks, stop complaining about IPs, we won't block them for ban evasion unless they are really really annoying. In which case we will bloody well notice without having to be told about it every ten minutes. Plus, There are privacy reasons for not publicly discussing IP addresses in connection with named persons, so stop doing it. And finally, we aren't going to block a dynamic IP for a long time anyway. If it really really matters to you then email someone less pissed off with the whole affair. 16:05, 3 March 2019 (UTC)


 * The Rex account is 100% Mikey, look at this edit. "I can see how you would be useful if they needed someone to write sickeningly dishonest personal smear pieces to destroy the reputations of people who disagree with the regulars here. You people are lower than dog vomit." Long term editors like Bongolian and David Gerard who have been around here long enough and have seen Mikey's editing on racialism articles would agree that is him, the "dishonest smear" is a phrase he has used many times before. Tremors (talk) 16:13, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Why are you still going on about it. Rex has been blocked for hours. 16:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Mike never stopped, he's created at least three more sockpuppets: WangBoglin Collector & K. Peters BSc(Hons). Peters was blocked today as an impersonation after I emailed David Gerard -- Mike is impersonating my family members, not only on this wiki, but other websites. The reference to the universities on Peters user page are universities I've attended and Peter(s) is an individual related to me he's impersonating across the internet, including using his photo on the Encylopedia Dramatica forum. Boglin is a reference to toys I collected as a child and Mike mocked me for collecting on ED; I now see that account is blocked, but Wang isn't. I provided proof Mike is Wang on his user talk.Paycheck (talk) 18:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)


 * You know, they would probably go away if you did. You aren't half feeding the troll here. Just send your stuff to Gerard, or another board member/mod if he's busy, in private, and let them deal with it. I am pretty sure this on-wiki dialogue is encouraging them and exacerbating the issue. 19:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)