User talk:Stabby the Misanthrope/Archive15

Email 1
Need your email and I'm too friggin' old to keep looking. There's only so much time. Could you send it to my blog email?

Thanks, T.

ThomasRowley (talk) 04:57, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Received and replied.  04:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Didn't want you to think I was a drive-by poster. A few days into Dec I learned that the SVR founder, Thomas Naylor, was doing poorly. He stroked out on Dec 9.  I've been tied up on blog stuff and will be back shortly.


 * T.
 * ThomasRowley (talk) 05:30, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Moderator elections
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Thanks for the complinsult but let's try to avoid magical thinking. Do you want a moderator or do you want a politician? AD is great at wasting his time trying to talk sense into users who are committed to not listening to moderators, but he's unwilling to compromise his angelic image to pull a trigger when a trigger needs be pulled. We're not government officials; we don't need to worry about a "mandate." Vote for people who will do what you want moderators to do, not people who you think are politique or gosu or smart. People who are politique or gosu or smart can still talk it out if they don't have the usergroup and the specific authority of moderators.

Now, Stabby, I find your criticism of me in particular to be a little confusing. After all, I'm probably the most committed to discussion and procedure of anyone here. I'm proud of the fact that I've never issued a malicious block nor removed user rights in anger. I have a history of going easy on "trolls"; I was the original returner of MC's rights, I voted against his bans, I opposed unnecessary blockings and I frequently resysopped unpopular users like Brxbrx and Abd. When you say I don't play wikipolitics "smartly", I have to assume you mean I often go against mainstream opinion and insist on due process; I'm not sure about these "actions that have a mandate of nil behind them." 07:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've given up on the idea that Mods can accomplish anything. Let the community rot in its little hole while the mainspace editors and Foundation board do all the heavy lifting.  (Mainspace editors make/improve the articles people come here for; Foundation board promotes them to the outside world while keeping the website afloat.)
 * Your actions don't necessarily go against mainstream opinion (which is itself divided on any site action; there is no single "mainstream," really). Otherwise, you wouldn't so consistently be elected Moderator.
 * However, you do a terrible job of picking your battles. You waste your time, and in the the process others' goodwill, fighting tiny battles.  You know how I took every possible opportunity to bring the fight to Human back in 2008/2009?  It sometimes feels like that's how you work — picking battles with no regard for whether "winning" will actually amount to effective change, or whether it's one of a dozen small battles that'll be repeated over and over.  You also sometimes stick through a fight when it's clear you won't win; "principled defeats" do not accomplish anything on RationalWiki.  People's memories are too fuzzy for that; all they remember is people fighting, with the most recurring names being associated negatively.  Bow out, don't flare out.  Skillful retreats minimize losses.
 * Also, compromise. You often propose fully-formed policies and rules right out of the gate — so fully-formed, so "complete," in fact, that compromising on them is to utterly break them.  But compromise is the nature of a wiki.  Build some flexibility in to your proposals, allowing room for others to ruin them slightly without ruining them completely.  That way, even after you've compromised all to shit, you've still managed a solid step forward.   08:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your reply. I disagree, of course. I think you're projecting your politics with Human onto me with regard to Ace/Human/Nutty Roux. I don't see "defeat" and "winning" as relevant concepts in wiki policy discussions that are mostly pointless, and even if they were, the only example I can even think of for me picking a pointless/hopeless battle is when I argued for edit filters on non-vandalism. And I honestly think you're completely wrong about the last point; can you point to some times when I put forth a proposal and never accepted compromise? If it happens "often," surely it wouldn't be too hard to point to a couple. 09:14, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You know, I had multiple tabs open, sorting through all of your 2011 edits, but then I realized... I don't feel like doing this. If you feel my advice doesn't apply to you, then ignore it.  I don't have a ton of bookmarks tracking your efforts on site management, and I don't have the discussions you've partaken in over the years memorized.  Before you play the "but if I really do what you say I do, then it'll be easy to find evidence" card, you know damn well how hard it is to build a case that anyone takes seriously.  A half hour to an hour of browsing through old revisions, then another half hour carefully wording it for maximum effect.  Then multiple hours of debating it, as we quibble endlessly over what I said.
 * I'd rather completely stop editing this wiki then wade through shit like this again. Which is exactly what I did for a few days.  So fuck my advice and fuck this thread.  Unless it has to do with the Foundation proper, I'm not going to delve into any thread revolving around wikipolitics from now on.   00:33, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Paleocons
American Conservative is a hive of paleoconservatism, though they do have some legit anti-war commentary (Daniel Larison comes to mind). Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:15, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Takimag is another good one -- heavier on the xenophobia and racism. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:26, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ooh, something else for me to read every week and get angry at.
 * But seriously — holy shit, thanks! I've been intending to rewrite the paleoconservatism article, but was afraid of being forced to pad out the "high-quality" citations of VDARE and Chronicles with a bunch of Z-list blogs run by whiny cranks.  So I appreciate more major paleocon gold mines.   03:43, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're looking for VDARE-ish stuff (i.e., more racialism than general paleocon politics) that's a bit higher-brow, you want Mankind Quarterly and American Renaissance. That's where our "racial realist" pals (i.e., Rushton, Taylor, etc.) peddle their wares. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 04:06, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Omnomnominated
This is a courtesy call to let you know that someone (who shall remain nameless for their own protection) has nominated you for moderator. Please go here to accept or reject the nomination. Cheers. 10:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Board nomination
You have been nominated. Humorless fascist sociopath 15:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome
Thanks! Such a hive of scum and villainy rational people and morbid humor is too great to be left alone. I'd offer a non-tangible eBeer, but noted you don't understand us unrepentant drunkards connoisseurs of alcoholic beverages. Tagaziel (talk) 10:19, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, but non-tangible beer is the best, because it doesn't have that awful alcohol flavor :-)   10:20, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Pffft, don't listen to Stabby. The pleasures of drinking a bottle of over-ripe and rotten grapes is lost on him. Acei9 10:22, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you. 82.69.171.94 (talk) 19:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! It was the least I could do for our best IP editor.   21:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey man you were right on the LW talk page
Check out lesswrong talk page, they been replacing "chip fabs" with tobacco plantations and researchers with tobacco executives for ages. On the suggestion of that guy Yvain. You were totally right, and worse than that. Dmytry (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm, I didn't know that.  01:02, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

PC
I don't want to make an enemy out of you or anyone else, but what you wrote on her page is just beyond the pale. You might want to revisit that a little later on. --DamoHi 08:10, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * What I'd like to clarify is that in my comment to you I wasn't calling you stupid but your hatred towards others is. Acei9 08:12, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

random word templates
You seem to be their biggest user, but do you really feel it's a good idea? I mean, to me, it'd just be confusing. Then again, I'm easily confused. Also, I could have sworn that this page was LQT-- "Shut up, Brx." 22:18, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It was LQT, but I changed back. It was too much of a pain to use on my phone.
 * You raise a good point in that it's potentially confusing and off-putting to new users. The only reason I still use them is habit, which isn't an especially good reason.   22:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Email 2
Email 06:37, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Read and replied.  06:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Le mail de eeh. 05:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * R+R'd. By the way, you don't need to leave me on-wiki email alerts, because emails are pushed straight to my phone.  (In fact, I managed to read yours before I got the talk page alert email.)  Cheers!   06:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Why do you delete my contribution?
Why do you delete my contribution? &mdash; Unsigned, by: 94.254.2.145 / talk / contribs 18:15, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Because the articles you were creating were direct copy-pastes of Wikipedia articles, complete with WP-specific templates and links to articles RW doesn't and won't have. It'd be easier to write a new article from scratch than completely rework the existing Wikipedia article.   18:32, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow, just realized I used the word "article" five times in a single paragraph.  10:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's that same paragraph with repeated uses of the word 'article' replaced with synonyms from merriam-webster.com:

"Because the articles you were creating were direct copy-pastes of Wikipedia causeries, complete with WP-specific templates and links to editorials RW doesn't and won't have. It'd be easier to write a new discourse from scratch than completely rework the existing Wikipedia prolegomenon."
 * Nihilist 15:19, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

preferred e-mail
Can you please send me: ttoulouse@gmail.com your preferred e-mail address for contact about the board election? Tmtoulouse 2013-01-21T18:26:56‎
 * Done.  23:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

About Reddit
Thanks for your comment about my Reddit overhaul. ShadowUltra (talk) 04:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Oh, for future reference, you should respond to comments on the same page they were posted.  Otherwise it's hard to track conversations when they ping-pong across pages.   05:24, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Are you an alcoholic, unemployed atheist?
I think you added that part to the article, didn't you? Peter Droid whisperer 03:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. Yes, that was me.  Oh man, he really is watching his article.   03:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Free MarcusCicero you humdinger
Let liberty reign! Stop being an annoying flibbertigibbet! Lose your virginity! ProudTory (talk) 11:30, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No, let tyranny reign!--Token Conservative (talk) 18:09, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Authoritarian
Playing mantises devour your sol.

You silly person
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Singapore's not a country (and before you try to correct me, I operate on the assumption that a single city is not a country) Captain Swing (bringer of nachos) 05:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * In my search for another small country with good infrastructure, I have discovered that Liechtenstein has no airport.  05:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Moderator
Would you mind running? Peter mqzp 20:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Fanfiction
Interested? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 15:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nah. There's a handful of fandoms I partake in, and Warhammer 40k isn't one of them.   15:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

up and running
I'm sure you'll get pretty charts soon enough! good to see it up and running, good work you two. Godot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability  01:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm actually a little jealous of Trent's chart-making abilities. And thanks.   01:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I can draw stick figures! oh, not really the kind of "figures' needed for charts.  :-) [[Image:green mowse.png|25px]]Godot  The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability  01:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Accounting software
With fundraiser season come round and the mention of some sort of bookkeeping solution in the spiel, I'm a little curious about what the stopgap measure is and what you'd like to end up with (a full-blown ERP system, Quickbooks licenses, support contract for some open-source solution, etc). I assume you've something a little more sophisticated than a folder with a .csv file for each ledger or journal. I mean, worst comes to worst, you could always just make a whole bunch of wiki pages for each one, extensively abuse transcludes and inline math to make double-entry transactions show up in the appropriate places, and please for the love of god say it's not that bad. AntiDeathPill (talk) 02:31, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The stopgap measure is a copy of Quicken that Trent has.
 * If I could have anything, I'd pick Quickbooks Enterprise, which has the ideal trifecta of ubiquity (Quickbooks is monstrously popular, meaning there's a ton of advice and trouble-shooting resources available, plus it plays nicely with practically any small business software out there), customizability (templates and a ton of add-ons), and easy access via the cloud (what if my PC breaks? What if my laptop is stolen? No problem, it's all online anyways).  Unfortunately, the cheapest version of it runs $1,000 a year, which breaks our budget.
 * That being the case, I'm currently torn between a single license of Quickbooks for Nonprofits ($400) and the cloud-based Aplos ($29 a month for all the features we'd need). Of course, Trent's been using Quicken, and the only thing it can export to is Quickbooks, so I guess my choice is already made for me.  But I'll be damned if Aplos doesn't appeal to me anyways.
 * (And... using MediaWiki for accounting? That sounds frightening.  The poor man's accounting software is the same as the poor man's database software:  Excel.  You can do it that way if you really want to, it's just you totally shouldn't :-)  )   03:52, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd rather get stuck with GnuMoney than Excel. In any case, it looks like Aplos supports automatically importing Quickbooks and they seem eager to arrange importing anything else. With the fifteen day trial including support, I'd encourage at least giving it a try if it's something you think you'd like to use. (Also, good luck with Intuit support.) I've already thrown what I can your way for lack of being able to do anything else to help. Good luck! AntiDeathPill, masquerading as an IP (talk) 18:41, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Bookkeeping is often one of those boring things that gets short shrift, so I appreciate your suggestions.   19:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Lookie there!
101% and i think there's still a week to do. ya'll (more than one) done good!Godot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability  21:12, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Global warming template
Concerning the manufactroversies section -- is it possible to have a list of articles that can be selected from for the template without making a separate category for them? Also, I'm going to add a section for denialists. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 01:01, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Damned if I know. Often, when I need to auto-populate a list, I check Wikimedia's page on DPL, and half the time end up typing it out by hand.  And you don't have to ask my permission for changing the the navbar.  I intended it to be a starter for others to improve as they saw fit.  Edit away!   02:24, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. Another thing: Should we recategorize climate deniers under just "category:Global warming denialists" or both that and the more general "category:Denialists." I feel like the former might be better in a lot of cases because so many climate deniers tend to be deniers of other environmental problems." Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:42, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm jumping on the "can we have a different colour for the logo?" banner here. It's too green, make it orange, Venus-ish or something. Osaka Sun (talk) 02:44, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Non-materialist neurosci derail
That was an ad-hoc analogy. What you are thinking of is the "computer metaphor," i.e. the mind is the "software" that is run by the "hardware" of the brain. This is something separate from non-materialist neuroscience, which is an attempt to shoehorn god and/or magic into neuroscience. The metaphor can, however, lead to the sort of implicit dualism that transhumanist mind uploading schemes seem to endorse. (Some are more explicit about their dualism.) The metaphor should also not be confused with. Hope that doesn't make things even more confusing. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 17:11, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * That's nuance, and nuance is never confusing! :-)
 * Yeah, I was just being nitpicky because I dislike the hardware/software analogy so much. As you said, and I agree, it can lead to the ever-grating transhumanist version of dualism.   17:30, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it is useful in a way to demonstrate the concept of category mistakes or levels of description -- just as software exists without the need to explain it by means of physical "software-stuff," minds can exist without physical "mind-stuff." However, the disanalogies are numerous enough to be incredibly misleading. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 17:44, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

RWWW was run by a pedophile who is currently in jail.
That guy? where did you hear about his legal troubles? Also, what the hell was his handle here, again? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?. 00:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Tisane was his handle on RW. I jumped the gun on saying he was in jail, as he's actually just on probation but, given his history of questionable decisions, he may not be under mere probation for long.   02:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * He may have also committed suicide, as I seem to recall (and have no idea where he said so) that he said if his Wiki projects failed utterly to raise his name within the libertarian community, suicide was an option. Either way, we can deduce that something serious happened, since he vanished without a trace late in 2012, and he was so committed to his doomed internet projects it's hard to believe he'd just up and leave. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 08:32, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Suicide? That's darker than I expected to hear.  He had mental health issues and believed some execrable ideas, but he needed therapy and some practice at basic empathy.  Nobody deserves to die.   23:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Not to worry. Looks like he's back to being his normal, creepy fucking self all over the internet again. He even managed to fuck up his RWW. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 09:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I suppose it was too much to hope that he'd emerge from sabbatical a better person.  20:02, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Meh, the guy's a sociopath. His rants where he side-steps children who were victims of sex abuse, claiming it was their parents' right to rape them or whatever, are hands-down proof of that. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 09:12, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

UK vs. US convention on punctuation inside or outside quotation marks
So you told me to check the rest of the page on Eric S. Raymond.

The thing is, look at this version of it before you started your edits: http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_S._Raymond&curid=15376&diff=1226819&oldid=1216245

Most (I think all, but I might not have caught everything) of the periods and commas are outside the quotation marks as far as I can tell (correct me on this if I'm wrong). Then you started switching over everything to the US convention (again, correct me on this if I'm wrong). My question is: Why?

I remember reading somewhere here that RW doesn't care which convention you use as long as the page is consistent. I don't care enough about these inane grammar issues to dispute you on this, but ... well ... my OCD was bruised, so I felt like telling you ... or something like that. :P Nullahnung (talk) 06:31, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I always interpreted that advisory as applying to word spellings only, because when I started out here most of the articles I saw used periods and commas inside quotations, so that's what I learned to use. Commas and periods outside seemed to be the exception.  But memory is fungible, so I wouldn't take my word for it.  :-)   06:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's quite alright. I always try to err on the side of convention. I do find it hard to do in this case, since I was raised on European grammar and have been fighting my overbearing OCD for all of my life (quotation marks should only contain the quoted material itself, damnit!, everything else is impure, I will preach the gospel of my own grammar, etc. etc.). But yeah, just don't expect articles I write to use the US convention from the get-go, but I'll yield to everybody else, when they start editing. Nullahnung (talk) 06:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I can certainly empathize with your OCD, thought I've learned to minimize my participation in internecine content fights. If somebody else really wants to force something, I try to yield early.   07:06, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome Misanthrope
Hi Misanthrope, thank you for the welcome.

I have a question, how do I go about renaming an article? I think the name of the article in itself causes bias and chastises academics who have dissenting views on a subject.

Thank you once again for this wonderful website. I thoroughly enjoy it and love all the articles. Anthrax (talk) 03:39, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, Anthrax!
 * You have to receive autopatrolled status before you can relocate articles, but even if you could, you need to discuss it on the article's talk page first.  03:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks but it seems User:Osaka Sun has abused his sysop powers and continues to remove 7500 characters of cited information just because he doesn't agree with the facts. He seems content to do this without typing anything in the Talk Page, and then trollishly asking strange questions like "what does fish cost?" And writing things like "Shut up, get out." in the edit-summary. Then he removed it again and protected the page. Adding a picture of a graphical map that Armenians have fabricated without any evidence and in the caption he wrote "Nope, not a genocide!" in a sarcastic tone. And even wrote at the top "didn't intend to exterminate the Armenians, so it can't be called a "genocide."" claiming this as a bad argument despite intent being the well-establish international law in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II. This user is clearly abusing his powers and being extremely hostile to me because he knows he cannot dispute the facts that I cited. I need your help in settling this dispute in a civilized manner instead of simply destroying what I spent time writing without cause just because this user has a history of contributions to this website. Anthrax (talk) 05:08, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

RE:
This is actually a VPN IP for Feral Hosting's thanatos server, I'm sure several people use it. Just fyi, since I saw your talk msg about editing something that I did not personally edit.
 * Really? Dang.  Oh, well.  No harm in asking whoever's using it at any given time to join, anyway.   23:21, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Anti-economics economics
Seeing Keen and Graeber mentioned made me think of Michael Perelman's The Invention of Capitalism. Somewhat Graeber-ish, but more old-school Marxist. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 19:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You're like a suggested reading machine!
 * I'm not a Marxist, but I have a soft spot for books critiquing capitalism and neoliberal economics. (An aside:  labor historian Erik Loomis has lamented the death of labor rights history in the classroom, but expressed hope at the growing amount of material available on the history and development of capitalism, since so much of it is critical of conventional narratives.)   19:48, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * In that vein, I usually recommend the behavioral econ stuff that seeks to undermine rational choice theory (Simon, Kahneman, Shiller, Thaler, etc.), but I figured you already knew about that.
 * I never took labor history, but I did take a course ("industrialization in America" or something like that) that drew on it pretty heavily. It did make me want to send people who whine about "class warfare" back in time to when there was real class warfare. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 01:23, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I almost forgot -- Perelman has a blog with some excerpts and other material. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 18:04, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

RE:
Thank you for the welcome, Misanthrope. --Daniiieeeel (talk) 23:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! :-)   04:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Hrey
Hullo. How are you today? Messiah of Doom- Unite with thy Oracle 09:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm doing fine. I'm basically twiddling my thumbs until college starts this fall.   00:10, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool! And how's that going for you? Messiah of Doom- Unite with thy Oracle 12:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm enjoying my last week of complete freedom. Then it's back to getting up at six in the morning.   17:00, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh. What kind of stuff do you intend on doing? Recently I moved from my cosy little urban apartment to an unnecessarily large house that's two hours away from pretty much everything. But otherwise, I'm doing pretty well. Messiah of Doom- Unite with thy Oracle (talk) 23:50, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

About that RMF/Discovery Institute merger
The government shutdown caused this to be delayed, since the government's regulators were on furlough. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 08:59, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I can see why the Justice Department and FTC would move to block it. A merger of two powerhouses like RW and the Disco 'Tute would allow us to corner the internet market!   09:13, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Refs
Hi :-) It's been awhile - how are you doing? Do you have any new fanfiction? I need to ask for help, and you are probably one of the nicer ppl here... so I think I can safely ask for help. (I'm just not in the mood for snarky or mean spirited replies, I'm so sensitive, lol. :p) Can you tell me please.. how can I add a book source as a reference? Also, is it better to put a link, or comment on what the link is? I see sometimes there is a "reflist" and sometimes just refs.. when do you use reflist and what does it do? I don't want to read a lot of instructions on stuff I'm not planning to do, just want to know about these couple of things, so I'm hoping you can explain these few points for me? (It's ok to email me instead of post here if you want, you have my addy). Thanks! Refugee talk page  19:59, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I already figured out the question about refs, so nevermind! Take care, Refugee talk page 00:32, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Inquisitor Ehrenstein's redundant alert thing

 * You do realize that I already have a watchlist for updates, right?  20:26, 18 November 2013 (UTC)