Forum:Didn't Jesus supposedly die for our sins? If he did, why do fundies still believe in original sin?

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 * Christians say that Jesus died for our sins, right? Well why do some fundamentalists still believe that humanity is cursed? Did Jesus only die to give us the opportunity to get into heaven? If he did, does that mean everyone before Jesus automatically goes to hell? Does this include the good people too, like Noah or Lot? I'm not a theologian, but I'd like an answer to this question. --At (talk) 23:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You might be better off asking some Christians. Though I doubt there will be only one answer.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 21:39, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Because you still have to confess your sins and apologise to God. I'm not even a Christian and i know that. It's basic Christianity, every Christian believes it, not just "fundies." I'm just guessing here, but you're new at this, aren't you? Sophie  Wilder  22:32, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm new at this. I just wanted an answer to my question.--At (talk) 23:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * This is very a messy question. To work through it you need to split out the "original sin" element from the "death and resurrection" element. Various group disagree on what each of those mean, which leads to a wide variety of possible answers to your overall question.


 * Firstly, different branches of Christianity treat "The Fall" differently. While all denominations agree Original Sin exists, the meaning and consequences of it are disputed. Catholics believe it created "darker impulses" (meaning we are born with the "capacity" for sin), whereas Lutheran/Calvinist denominations (which includes some Baptists) believe we actually inherit Adam's actual guilt and are thus born sinful.


 * Next there is the "death and resurrection". Sorting out what this means to all the various groups would take forever. Most Christian groups accept that Christ died and was resurrected, and that this indicates that believers will get "eternal life". Whatever else it might mean is a lot more contentious... eg. "He died for our sins" gets thrown around a lot, but there is HUGE disagreement on what that actually implies. Read Atonement in Christianity to get started.


 * Regardless, as Sophie points out above, most Christians are still expected to apologise and declare unquestioning faith in God. It's just that the "why and how" they get to that point varies widely. VOX [[User_talk:Voxhumana|

HUMANA ]] 23:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * thanks, that is a good answer to my question. I just wanted to know the "why". And "how". It is nice to hear other people's opinions on this.

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Since when did Fundies ever believe in maintaining consistent beliefs? The term "doublethink" exists for a reason, you know. — Oxyaena   Harass  11:25, 15 June 2019 (UTC)