Fun talk:LLama

Hmmm. I assume all that 'arch-enemy' stuff is just to appease the jingoist constituents back home, and does not reflect any real animosity towards us goatists? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:51, 12 December 2007 (EST)


 * Nah, it's sarcasm... hehe :) --Eira 20:01, 12 December 2007 (EST)
 * I see. Well, as long as there are no unnecessary attacks or challenges against Heidrun's primacy, I'm sure we can all get along just famously. Hey, by the way, did you know that the Long-eared jerboas around here really hate llamae, for some unfathomable reason? It's true. :nods: -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 20:17, 12 December 2007 (EST)


 * Damn the Jerboa! I think they may hate LLamae more than Goats! I mean, Jerboa and Goats both want to be allowed to graze on their own, without a shepard to watch over them, but entirely unlike the LLamae that like to have a strong shepard around, not because they're sheep, but because they're willingly to bring benefits to the weaker LLamae, even if it means that a large part of the grass they graze gets collected up and distributed out by the shepard. --Eira 20:47, 12 December 2007 (EST)

ally of the goats
I see that this new-found herbivore claims to the the "ally" of the goat. I take great exception to this. The goat needs no ally for it is omnipotent. Furthermore the article makes no mention of where the LLama stands in relation to the Ferret question or, for that matter, the little-mentioned fennec fox.--Bobbing up 16:38, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Llamas are "angels" in the goat pantheon. CЯacke ® 16:41, 7 January 2008 (EST)


 * No, no. Vicuñas are the angels. [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]Genghis  Alpaca up your troubles in your old kit bag 17:32, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * I believe what is actually meant is that llamas are subjects of the goat, only it had to be phrased a bit more euphemistically to account for the llamas' overwhelmingly large egos. I believe some leeway is acceptable here, as long as we all know what is actually meant. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 18:07, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * I affirm that llamae are full subjects of the goat, goat be praised, as he is the all powerful, maker of heaven and earth, and all that exists. However, in my hasty effort to distinguish llamas apart from the goats, we failed to recognize our heritage, for which I am thankful to all here for reminding us to include.


 * The llamae do not in any way conflict with the goat, goat be praised, as justification:
 * The llamae do not deny the omnipotence of the goat, goat be praised.
 * The llamae simply believe that there was a holy prophet, the lama, who professed the holy words of the goat, goat be praised.
 * From the teachings of this prophet, the llamae are bound together in disctinct herds, which are commanded, by the goat, goat be praised, through the holy lama, to band together in a unison of effort and care, such that we may reach a more ideal average result from this solution to the economic Game Theory society struggles with.
 * The llamae were also commanded, by the goat, goat be praised, through the holy lama, that although they will appear different than goats, that fundamentally all living creatures require consideration of their needs. As an example, while providing for the care of a lion, it would be expected that formerly prey animals would by way of volunteers or a random lottery select a sufficient population to provide necessary and appropriate nourishment to the lion.  (This is simply an arbitrary hypothetical example.)
 * Thus, llamae are taught, by the goat, goat be praised, through the holy lama, that they are to believe quite similarly to goats, but that they have further commandments given to them by the goat, goat be praised, through the holy lama, the most important of which is that they should accept every living thing seeking their care, even those who may not be llamae at all, and even those seeking to exploit the support that the llamae are to provide. The llamae are forbidden to deny care for any reason, unless they are entirely incapable of providing such care, or unless they are able to refer that care to another llama that may have a better ability to provide that care, should time, immediacy, and quality indicate such a referral.
 * So, as you should hopefully be able to see, the llamae actually believe in the same ideas that the goats do, but simply have received further instructions by way of the lama, the holy prophet of the goat, goat be praised. In fact, we believe in the same goat, goat be praised, it is only in our practices that the llamae and goats differ, not in our beliefs.


 * As well, I intended no offense in failing to include other minority animals, and I will work to correct this article as quickly as possible. --Eira yay! 14:27, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Schism!
Do not be led astray by the sweet words of these new-found so-called "LLamas" with their twisted words about "further commandments" and "further instruction" - that way lies heresy and  Schism. At least the jerboas and the ferrets are honest in their opposition. These "LLamas" come to tempt us to a different path. Be strong my brethren, stay true to the fundamentalist goat religion, beware the evils of apostasy!--Bobbing up 15:07, 8 January 2008 (EST)


 * But we are worship the same goat! I do not understand why your acceptence of us is immediately rejected. We simply want to live in peace on our own land, yet you come here and claim us heretics, and vandalize our territory, you condemn us based simply on our difference in actions.  We really and truly are most humble servants of the goat (goat be praised), we simply practice different customs than you. Why do you condemn us before listening rationally to our beliefs and actions? --Eira yay!  17:15, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * It is in your similarity and your revisionism and your lax "modernizations" that the danger lies. You would ease us step by step to some unwanted LLama-inspired "reformation".--Bobbing up 18:22, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * I have had a revelation: The Great Goat came to me from among his flocks, and said but three words: "Embrace the LLamae." I see this as a sign that cannot be ignored, may the Goats and LLamae join forces against the Rodent Hoards. I hereby call for a campaign to reclaim the Holy Wiki, drive every rodent from it's very pages.  Goatspeed.  19:29, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * I am highly skeptical of your revelation, as the Lama, the holy prophet of the Goat, the Goat be praised, specifically told us that the Goat, the Goat be praised, would send no further prophets to guide the llamae. Therefore, your revelation must be in err. --Eira yay!  The Goat be praised. 20:01, 8 January 2008 (EST)

"orthodox" goats?
I'm trying to figure out the best word to associate goats to Christianity for the humor of the article, while making them distinct from the llamae. I was thinking "catholic" (the little C) but finally settled on "orthodox", but I don't like that word so much... Islam and Christianity aren't really related by Christianity being the "orthodox" version... Any ideas? --Eira omtg! The Goat be praised. 15:22, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Mainstream vs. Reform? Fundamental vs. Liberal versions of faith?  ħ uman  17:15, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
 * While that does kind of set the idea more accurately than the whole CvI analogy, I'm trying to stick towards the CvI analogy out of humor. But you definitely are correct in talking about "Fundamental" vs "Liberal" versions, as my view is kind of social libertarianism with economic socialism (yeah parse on THAT you single point "where do your beliefs lie" lol) Although, that's generally where socialism and libertarianism overlap... on the social side.  So, basically, neither is really the "fundamental" of the other, nor is either the "liberal" of the other, and don't start with "mainstream vs reform", I don't think that would really match at all.  I like the CvI analogy, because it presents two ends of a spectrum that people presume are polarized against each other, but in actuality are based on the same fundamental ideas (social libertarianism in this case, the Abrahamic God in the CvI case) with a spectrum of variation between (libertarianism vs socialism on the economic axis). --Eira <sup style="color: #220088">omtg!  The Goat be praised. 13:05, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I was only trying to help ;) Why not make the goat, jerboa, and llama analogous to xtianity, islam and judaism (not in that order necessarily)? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  15:33, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
 * lol, well, your input is appreciated even if it doesn't look like it, hehe. I don't know what to do about jerboa... they're just so screwed up, that I can't fit them into any sort of logical category within the analogy... --Eira</b> <sup style="color: #220088">omtg!  The Goat be praised. 01:04, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, you might be overthinking it to try to make a "logical" analogy between religions? Just wing it and let your creativity shine! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  01:29, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

Better at "fun"?
There isn't much here except jokes... 02:07, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 10 months later... I concur, throwing up the template. Тy Please do not click on this 18:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I hate you all. -- 08:38, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I give it about two months before all humour is banned on this wiki. Even the goat will be gone from the mainspace soon. You ban one user and it takes you what? Two days to decide that you can unilaterally violate other people's userspace to silence him. I knew it was a slippery slope, but you people baffle me. The shift to tyranny was even faster than I expected. I wonder how long it will take to start deleting any reference to MC on sight. I bet the fascists will block me just for pointing this out. Does anyone still remember what this wiki once was? --86.45.3.150 (talk) 17:39, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I await the coop that asks for permission to do a rangeblock of 86.0.0.0/8 ... there really isn't any other way that they could possibly stop that MC guy. -- 17:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This would indeed be better in funspace. 23:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, but can we move it? Robothead.svg dot.svg 23:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not? 23:38, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ^ whining. Ah, screw it. Move it. Robothead.svg dot.svg 23:40, 18 September 2011 (UTC)