User talk:Nx/Archive5

cap shabat tu
since they started 403 blocking at cp, can you maek the bot capture on wigo talk? &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 19:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It already does, you just need to put around the link.  01:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * And Trent needs to fix the botserver, until then it will only work while I'm online. -- Nx  / talk 08:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

WIGO world
Hi Nx someone was stuffed up WIGO world and we had several entires in the 9700s can you clear them please? 01:40, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Nx  / talk 08:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You are always awesome, thanks. 08:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Inter-wiki links
I probably should have just put this question here in the first place. 13:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Meh
You're a bad man for sending POST requests with GET variables, Apache is a bad man for accepting such malformed requests, and MediaWiki is a bad man for not distinguishing between POST and GET variables. That is all. -- 20:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I'm just lazy. -- Nx  / talk 20:33, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Argh.
I just noticed that mediawiki strips the name attribute from any HTML you care to input, which was why I had so much pain getting my javascript to work. Any chance of configuring mediawiki to accept name attributes on div elements? Is that doable? -- 23:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Div is not supposed to have name attributes, so the sanitizer strips it out. Why not use id or classes? -- Nx  / talk 23:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Any attribute can have a name attr, I'm reasonably sure I remember that from the NN4 days when I actually wrote serious javascript. IDs are supposed to be globally unique, so that'd be a abuse. I suppose I could use class, but I really want class to be reserved for specifying, for want of a better word, the object's class. So, key is an instance of room object and such like. Even that's pretty abusive, despite the semantic web weenies trying to legitimise it. I suppose abusing ID may be the best/only option. -- 00:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not in HTML4. This is what the sanitizer references, and name isn't among the allowed attributes. HTML4 still allows it for some tags (e.g. a), but not div. -- Nx  / talk 00:23, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Holly
I fully admit I was too emotional in my response to Proxima Centauri's abysmal writing. I didn't mean to step on your toes but I did. Do what you think is best. All I really wanted to do was what I now notice you already did - get rid of red links in what is otherwise an article of marginal value. Sowee. 17:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * On the one hand, I agree that the article is shitty and off-mission. On the other hand I felt that PH's deletion was a bit too harsh. If it were written by someone else would we keep it? Probably not... -- Nx  / talk 17:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Is that you Zaphod?! 17:25, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

TOP
Can you please sort out TOP? I don't know what to do with him. He is purposely seeking an irritated response in the debate thread. MarcusCicero 23:19, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * TheoryOfPractice needs no sorting out; he is what he is. 00:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He's trying the "Divide and conquer" ploy . 00:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Vandal bin
I just noticed that users who have bin placed in the vandal bin can still have "autoconfirmed" level rights. Perhaps this could be looked into, or is this intentional? -- 15:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really intentional, but I think removing their "autoconfirmed" level when binning probably wouldn't work (most likely they'd get it back the next time mediawiki decides to check if they satisfy the requirements). To counter this, the bin prevents page moves completely for binned users. -- Nx  / talk 15:46, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixing my sig
Thanks NX. Appreciate your fixing the sig. Looks purdy. 22:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Sometimes I lurk and see wrong things and I can't resist... some people might be annoyed by that. -- Nx  / talk 22:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Usergroups
Can we create a lateral promotion user group called "BeerOcrat" for us drunken editors? 23:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I can, but the real question is whether we want to clutter up Special:ListGroupRights with groups that do nothing. -- Nx  / talk 08:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Bot server
Hi Nx, Pibot doesn't seem to be running itself. I should have mentioned this about 4 or 5 days ago but never got around to it. 09:24, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

root@Bots:/etc/cron.daily# ./pibot File "archivebot.py", line 183 reN = re.search('\(Sticky\)',self.title,re.IGNORECASE) ^ IndentationError: unexpected indent File "archivebot.py", line 183 reN = re.search('\(Sticky\)',self.title,re.IGNORECASE) ^ IndentationError: unexpected indent

-- Nx  / talk 09:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Works fine on my copy. I'll move that across. 09:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay I moved the one I use across. 09:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good. -- Nx  / talk 09:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

balloons
Wow, are you still cleaning up that mess? Is there any work left? Sorry I wasn't helping - since I used that image a lot. 06:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, it was mostly used in templates anyway. -- Nx  / talk 06:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, sorry I didn't run with the changes and do some cleanup myself. 06:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

WIGO numbering again
The CP wigos, numbers 2560 to 2579 haven't had the wigo in front the poll ids have just been the numbers. Can you fix at the database level? 10:46, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Whilst you are there can you add this update? 10:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You can add it now. -- Nx  / talk 11:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers. 11:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

PWB
Is it possible to use the import/export interface using PWB? 19:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. -- Nx  / talk 19:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Right. Which methods do I use for this? I'm currently working it out by grepping for likely phrases but I wondered if you knew how to do it. 19:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Do I understand correctly that you already have an xml dump and are running grep on it? -- Nx  / talk 19:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope; I'm running grep on the PWB source to see if I can find how to do things like export and then import categories, then perform repetitive edits on the imported pages. 19:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you're trying to do, but you can get an xml dump using Special:Export. From a bot, you would get the source of a page using wikipedia.Page.get. You probably don't need import, just edit the page using wikipedia.Page.put. Search for "class Page" (without quotation marks) in wikipedia.py -- Nx  / talk 19:51, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Irrational Number rights
Can we give Irrational Numbers article deletion rights, so that Pi doesn't have to ask other people to delete articles? 06:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't everyone have the "vaporize" button? Surely, if Pi is asking, it's because it/he/they want to see some consensus first?  06:35, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not according to this talkpage edit, he doesn't. 06:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't need delete/restore rights if everyone is playing by the rules. 06:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seriously, you don't have the "vaporise" button? I thought all editors, let alone 'sops, had that.  06:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That would just be silly, remember what happened when ToP ToPed the database? 06:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * So who has it, just 'crats? 07:01, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sysops is the only group with vaporise. 07:02, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, we could use the bigdelete right to restrict sysops to deleting only pages with less than say 4700 revisions. -- Nx  / talk 07:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Why 4,700? 07:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it will keep you under his heel? Anyway, aresn't you a spop, PiGuy?  07:08, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Would a page that has had over 2000 edits ever be deleted anyway? All our mainspace articles have less than 1000 edits -- Nx  / talk 07:16, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * A thousand sounds like a good benchmark then. Didn't Wikipedia have it set at 500 at one time? 07:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I gave up my rights when there was a big teary fight over at the Saloon bar about sysops and who should and shouldn't be bureaucrats, it seemed completely pointless. I asked Nx to create me a group that had the few things I actually needed. 07:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I think I remember that. It was mostly so your edits wouldn't have red check marks, IIRC.  Well, other than why you wanted to be sort of undone.  What we should have is a "post-crat" set of rights where we are "trusted" but don't have any harmful powers, for elder statemen/women/irrationals such as yourself.  Just trying to prepare for my golden days, here.  PS, what's the RW pension plan like?  I never looked into it...  07:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Auto patrolled edits is one of the four "rights" over an autoconfirmed user I have. Pension is terrible, Trent claims we lost most of the pension fund in the GFC. 07:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * My Soros check is running late again this month. WTF?  07:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

That voodoo you do
Do you have any magic to make this work? Assuming that it is acceptable in the first place. 14:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_name#Changing_the_displayed_title 14:30, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I checked that after I tried. It looks like you can't have only part of the title struck through .  14:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You can't just float an opaque div up over the top of it to give the illusion that the title's changed, can you? 14:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You can't, because monobook is not the only skin that exists. -- Nx  / talk 14:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you do something similar to what is going on with the Wikipedia italic title template and the brackets? 14:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to figure out why italics don't work. -- Nx  / talk 14:51, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This feature was added in MediaWiki 1.16. We don't have it. -- Nx  / talk 15:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

RWW
Can you please give us an up-to-date version of MediaWiki? 12:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Next Saturday or Sunday. -- Nx  / talk 16:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Another annoying request
Someone gave me my sysop rights back and I found something useful I didn't have. Could you add to the magic table, please? 00:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done -- Nx  / talk 08:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Whine, whine, whine. Why not just take all your old rights back so Nx can take a day off? 00:49, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Because the only rights that are useful are the ones that I use. I am mostly just sick of the way people carry on like they are important, we call it demotion and act like it is nothing, but people fight over who should be sysops and crats when it is suppose to be unimportant. I want just the things I use. When was the last time you used the import page right? 00:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I see your point. Mind you, Π, that most of what I sling around is sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek humor, so don't be offended.  00:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's okay I am not. Actual I can't even see what gave you that impression, other than maybe the import thing. But seriously why do we have that, Nx used it once? 01:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's the default setting. -- Nx  / talk 08:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for giving me my vaporise button back. I know import pages is a default, but it really only seems useful if you are forking a wiki. 10:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Yet another annoying request
Could you install the input box extension, please? There are a few things I would like to use it for. 03:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done -- Nx  / talk 14:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 07:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * To do one of the things I was hoping to do we need this as well apparently. If it is not too much trouble, can you install it as well, please? 07:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think we have the resources to run it, sorry. Our database dump is 11 gigs; the doc says the index is usually 3-5x smaller than that, and that you need to keep at least half of the index in memory for this to work. -- Nx  / talk 09:34, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Damn. Oh well, one day when we get up to a 350 server cluster like Wikipedia. Can you think of a way of searching by prefixes? 09:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I modified the MySQL query in the default search engine. It was pretty easy, although it's a bit different than what inputbox does (use namespace= for the namespace, and prefix=): http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&ns3=1&search=bot&fulltext=Advanced+search&prefix=Π
 * I hope I didn't break anything. -- Nx  / talk 10:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome. So if you are using the default search sort it will work? I had to resave mine with all boxes ticked. 10:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You have to select the namespace, and use the page name without namespace, i.e. . The namespace parameter in inputbox isn't working. --  Nx  / talk 10:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all that. 11:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way is there something wrong with the irrational numbers group? I can delete and edit MediaWiki, but I can't restore or edit protected pages. 11:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You didn't have editprotected. -- Nx  / talk 11:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have fixed it so you can search the saloon bar as well, it needed .  11:09, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That breaks your talkpage. I'll fix this in the code. -- Nx  / talk 11:21, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It breaks on my talkpage because it searches %25C0%25A0 instead of %C0%A0. I would rather it works on the Saloon bar and Tech support than my talkpage. 11:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would rather it works on all three :) -- Nx  / talk 11:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Should we go back to as that uses the url?  11:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * no, because the database doesn't store it urlencoded. -- Nx  / talk 11:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It works, well done. Thanks for all this. I know it is a lot of work and we all ask so much of you, but you do such a great job. 11:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Weirdness a foot
I can't see the RationalWiki logo when I am in a subpage. Do you know what is going on? 12:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * My mistake. Fixed. -- Nx  / talk 12:28, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thumbs up.jpg. 12:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

New toy
Idea: Can those "create article" magic buttons also add the basic templates and/or categories in the edit box? (cross posted from the saloon to get your attention) 00:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's possible with vanilla mediawiki (although the inputbox makes it more convenient). See mediawikiwiki:Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text.
 * This inputbox will copy the contents of Theodore Roosevelt into the new article:

? 20:00, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * -- Nx  / talk 00:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just auto-add ''"Footnotes", "
 * execing might not work, plus php has a chmod function and you can even change the umask. But it would be better to try .profile first or ask your host. -- Nx  / talk 08:51, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * .profile won't work because I cannot write ~ or the parent directory of public_html; asking the hosts seems more like a last resort. 19:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, a trivial fix would be to edit mediawiki's upload function and add a temporary umask change. Php suggests not using umask as it can lead to concurrency problems. -- Nx  / talk 19:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ...can you give me a patch for that? 19:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There's an example of what you need to do at the umask documentation page I linked above. The function that creates directories is in GlobalFunctions.php, called wfMkdirParents. something like this should do:


 * No guarantee that this won't make your host angry. Or that it'll work at all. -- Nx  / talk 19:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Insane edit rampage
You are sure on a roll... please to bot yourself? >_> 15:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * While you're at it, please bot me, too. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 15:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't, because you can't unbot yourself. What do you want to do? -- Nx  / talk 15:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I want to be under the radar, so to speak. Lurking in the shadows. &mdash; Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 15:35, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Editing
Your mad editing spree scares me. Good job. I fart in your general direction. 19:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Recent Meissacre
Where did all that Mei come from? Didn't calibrating the bot take about as much time as replacing the Mei links manually wouldve? --  = w =  22:13, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No. The first phase was, but it didn't search in some namespaces, so I had to create the links on my sandbox  and run   --  Nx  / talk 22:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

T___T
Sorry sorrysorry. Sorry. --  = w =  23:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you want to test out my userbox? --  = w =  23:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yei thanks! *hugs/kisses* I'd've noticed sooner if it weren't for your odd subpages :-( --  = w =  00:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Odd? It makes it easier to organize things. -- Nx  / talk 00:22, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure but it makes if difficulter for Mei to see where things are. In conclusion: thank you for your support /uncle sam --  = w =  00:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

fMRI data
You should have a file (data.tar.gz) in your directory on RW that has an anat scan, dicom format. Let me know if there are any issues or questions. tmtoulouse 00:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

--  = w =  01:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

What's wrong with the current logo?
;_________; --  = w =  03:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Licensing problems. 03:03, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Copyright -- Nx  / talk 03:03, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * We want to own it, not share it. 03:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Purplebrain
No no no. Same colors ("pink"), lower brightness. What are you using anyway? --  = w =  03:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * blender -- Nx  / talk 03:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

It was either you or Trent...
So I choose to harass you. Can you place the image on the side so it is on my page, similar to that of the logo on the Dive Bar? 23:20, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, I do like the way it looks. Just one more question, how does the white space become see through? If that is possible, it would be deeply appreciated, if not, well, thanks for what you have done so far. Have a great day. 23:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll need to use PNG. Jpeg doesn't support transparency. -- Nx  / talk 23:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Meifly
Mei would like to request a simliar logo switch. But with this image on her userpage/talkpage? Thank you for your attention. --  = w =  23:30, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * People are going to bitch about cluttering up Common.css with all kinds of personal stuff again. -- Nx  / talk 23:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could put in something that allows for customisation without needing you to edit the code every time. --  = w =  23:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've tried, it can't be done. The css section of an html document is not saved in the parser cache, so it per-page css wouldn't work when the page is served from the cache -- Nx  / talk 23:35, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's just keep quiet and hope no more people ask for things. /crossfingers --  = w =  23:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sorting out my code anyway (you & java). Expect many Mei Coupons. --  = w =  23:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)