Talk:Talk.origins

I've always felt the talk.origins archive would be a great seed for a wiki like this, i.e. importing topics and arguments from there to wiki articles for expansion. Direct copying is probably not cool, but as a general guide it might be helpful. --Ode 20:01, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Agreed, they have done huge work already - I always thought many times we could probably just paraphrase and link to them. In fact, I think we have, a few times.  I go there to bask in sanity when I feel the need. human be in 20:42, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Is this the time and place to be outing our t.o. nyms? I post there as Shane, although not as frequently as usual since finding RW.--Remarcsd 21:45, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I was never a participant on t.o but once I discovered the archives I enjoyed a number of hours browsing and reading. I read that RW is looking for a project, and bringing in some of that knowledge might be a good diversion --Ode 22:06, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * You are correct, Sir, or Madam. Feel free to knock yourself out! human be in 06:06, 7 October 2007 (EDT)

Creationist Rebuttle Site
Apparently Talk.origins was so successful that the Creationists felt the need to create a "debunking" website: True.Origin. The whole thing is like one gigantic Gish Gallup - way too much crap to tackle. And the damn thing won't stop refreshing itself. Stilldeciding (talk) 01:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oooh, that site looks like fun! 01:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hate to spoil the fun but I hope to be forgiven considering the benefits
About the origin of species we din't have dobts. It's enough to have some brains to figure out how it might had happened. But we (the thinking part of Cromagnons a.k.a. humans) had doubts on the origin of universe. They lasted up 1998, when prompted by failure of Wheeler's cosmology, I figured out that the universe has no origin. It was never created. Sorry creationists but "your kind" was not intelligently designed by some intelligent designer, just evolved, all the time mixing genes with "our kind".

It is not my original thought since first I heard it from Carl Sagan in some TV interview shortly before his death (probably on Public TV). I just remembered it and I slowly absorbed it until I found a simple mathematical proof of it, later confirmed by a puzzling at the time confirmation from Einsteins' theory of relativity (consisting of coupling of time and space).

So guys and gals, the fun is over. The universe has no beginning, it is not even expanding, so we have to forget the Big Bang and return to our regular entertainments. Creationists may of course contine their search for Supreme Intelligence (if they don't have enough of their own) but for the rest of us 1998, the discovery of "accelerating expansion", predicted theoretically by Einsteins' theory, almost a cuntury earlier and observed in 1998 by Supernova Cosmology Project team) is a final discovery. The closing of short liived nonsense about expanding space which mostly makes happy the astronomers who now don't need to believe mathematicians (ever again) and may return to what they do best, and atheists who don't need to argue with creationists, unless those in RW who won't accept the sudden disapperance of the Big Bang, waiting for a confirmation from more rliable source than JJ, a generally known crank. Though it may take some time for problems with referees of scientific journals who believe JJ, seeing the calculations with their own eyes but are still afraid of mathematicians, who being creationists themselves but also their bosses, may hot like them. JimJast (talk) 15:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I just found...
...this old thread from t.o. where Ted Holden spouts his Einstein, Cohen, Velikovsky bullshit.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/talk.origins/posts$20from$201991/talk.origins/ImRXxKg9afY/QHksOYwAGYgJ --Thrinaxodon

Truth.Origin
Shouldn't we do something about the truth.origin "rebuttal" site? It kind of bothers me.

www.trueorigin.org 23:50, 15 July 2014‎ (UTC)


 * I get a "connection interrupted" when I try to visit the site. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 00:50, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Same here. It's probably down.--TemplarJLS (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The connection is back up.--TemplarJLS (talk) 03:34, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * If i set up a blog to "refute" talk.origins can i get an article too?-- Mie kal  05:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)