Fun talk:Drug woo

I don't know, being me an atheist and all, but i have never been as "religious" or religious wanna be as when I was drinking payote. All or most really good religious writings come from hallucinogenic or out of body type (ie., starvation, epilepsies, exhaustion) experiences. why? I think we are hard wired to see the world in a particular way when under serious stress. -- 17:37, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * It's odd that mystical experiences can be caused by various substances, but that the major religions don't want their followers to take them. This is worth a discussion, possibly involving Aldous Huxley's The Doors of Perception. Totnesmartin 17:47, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * From a professional point of view, i would say that is because almost all "mystical" experiences are personal and have some kind of message like "you can find god directly" "god is within" "all barriers are broken down", etc. formal religions don't like those messages.  Jesus, if you read him carefully, was likely quiet teh mystic.  notice he didn't really ever say "go to teh priests, oh you men".  :D-- 17:52, 11 September 2008 (EDT)