RationalWiki:Articles for demotion/Michele Bachmann

Michele Bachmann | Result: Keep silver (2-6)

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Promote to bronze

 * 1) I don't think this article is good enough to be a cover story. Kevs  Ping!  13:57, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * .... Okay? Tell us why. 14:41, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Total has-been. I couldn’t even tell you what national office she held off the top of my head. Worth an article but not worth a cover story candidate ranking. 20:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * House of Representatives, Minnesota, a major part of the Tea Party shenanigans in its founding days. The name makes one nostalgic for ye old days on the Internet when WND, the Drudge Report, and Free Republic were the depths of right-wing insanity (well, okay, there was Stormfront, but only Nazis went there, and no one liked Nazis). Now apparently a Dean of Pat Robertson U Regent University. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 22:22, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Leave as is

 * 1) Please put a constructive reason for this proposal. Thanks. 20:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Compare this article with other cover story nominees. There are many similar articles to this, but they are bronze. Kevs  Ping!  07:52, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * From a glance, maybe. But can you please put effort in your criticisms? Just go through why you think this is closer to bronze than others. Is the depth of content inadequate? Are sources poor? Does the article need expansion? Perhaps the article has less "missionality" than like Homeopathy's article, and maybe Bachmann has less relevance than before, but this isn't unique to to Bachmann in our silver-level articles. If qualifications for silver need to be revised, perhaps that's discussion, but I don't see anything about this article that makes it less worthy of silver than, say, Desiree Jennings, Shoo!Tag, IslamicAwakening.com. 21:06, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ad hominems. Other silver articles don‘t have them. And yes, it‘s less missional than other cover story nominees. Kevs  Ping!  10:51, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ad hominems? What? Don't be dismissive. Is this not true, that you put inadequate effort in your votes, which doesn't cut it when you're dealing with a process that needs good input? You've had people ask you to elaborate your votes several times. You're still not putting any effort in my requests, which are designed to help you to evaluate a page and help you convince others why you think a page should be demoted or promoted. I already provide examples to counter your claims about relevance; you're not supposed to just reiterate your previous argument. Actually address my examples. Actually put in the time to write out a good critique rather than having waste my time trying to guide you and you not listening to me or others' advice on voting or creating these proposals. DuceMoosolini could actually provide something we can work with, please do the same. 18:23, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I already explained my points, why it should be bronze: Ad hominems, not enough missionality and there are several articles similar to this and they aren‘t silver either. Kevs  Ping!  19:32, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, so I misread your points. I think the insults for her are justified. How is she not missional? And what articles are similar to this and aren't silver? 22:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn‘t say she‘s not missional, I only said she‘s less missional. A few examples: Fred Phelps, Phyllis Schlafly, Sarah Palin. Kevs  Ping!  05:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) An important part of our history as a wiki. 21:19, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) It's important to give an RW take to the world on charlatans like this. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 01:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Insufficient rationale to promote, and suggestion was made by a user who is notorious for wanting articles deleted for BS reasons. -- Goatspeed. 01:13, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The last Afd for „BS reasons“ was two months ago (RaHoWa). My last two Afds came through. Kevs  Ping!  07:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) -Flandres (talk) 01:23, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) The scum also rises. Bongolian (talk) 07:31, 10 May 2021 (UTC)