User talk:Human/Archive20



Hey  goobers, it's my talk page!

Just so's you all know, I have a distinct preference for continuing conversations on the talk page they start on. Otherwise my aging brain hurts! (ie, no table tennis conversations, please.

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I feel your pain
Single Sex Submarines. I share your agony. Silver Sloth 14:57, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Hehe, that non sequitur was classic Andy-debate. What does a history test have to do with a closely confined military vessel that spends months at a time underwater?  Actually he's right, mixed gender submarine sandwiches would be a good idea!  ħ uman  18:48, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

Articles
I'm thinking of creating a new category "articles". What do you think? --Bobbing up 15:42, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Hehe, I think I suggested that to Trent once... How about one called "good articles"?  ħ uman  18:22, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Mmmm. How about "Good Articles" - with the possibility of a correction later?--Bobbing up 13:27, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Why not spell it wrong as well as cap it incorrectly? "Actirles Good" ought to allow for 3 or 4 rounds of edits. And should be fully complemented by "Actirles Bad" and "Actirles So-So"!  ħ uman  14:01, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

Eh?
Did I miss something? 00:17, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * "Nothing to see here, please move along people, stay on your side of the tapes. Nothing happened, no need to worry."  ħ uman  00:18, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * No horrible gas leak then? Or dirty bomb explosions?  How utterly boring.   00:23, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I for one must have missed the point when taking disciplinary measures against someone whom you yourself has just been in a conflict with came to be considered a good idea. -- 09:13, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Oops, I missed that comment... want me to undo the change? (Was it disciplinary?)  ħ uman  19:39, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * "Oops" does not excuse such an action. It has already been undone, and Pink has already permanently left.   21:18, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * RA, calm down for a bit and let's try to discuss this.
 * Human, it would be great if you could briefly comment on A) whether or not you think that it is a good idea to take an action that could at least be interpreted as disciplinary against a person that you are involved in a personal conflict with (regardless of the circumstances of that conflict); B) that although no one seems to really have noticed, there is actually a bit of a crisis going on, with at least one editor having left and several others reviewing their commitment to the wiki; and C) what can be done to avoid such incidents in the future. Cheers. -- 11:18, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * (A) Of course it was not a "good idea", as you say, regardless of context, any such issues should be resolved in "public" with the mediary assistance of the cooler-headed. A lot of what seemed to follow happened almost completely "under the radar" as far as I could tell (some "decrattring/cratting" wars, Pink and Susan leaving and never coming back, etc.). (B) I'm not sure how we define "crisis".  Susan is, of course, missed, but the only "evidence" tying her absence (that I have seen) to this brouhaha is a copy of a pmail posted on another website.  (C) I have no idea, really.  One minor suggestion I have is that when you added your comment of 10/20 above I missed it, probably due to other edits to this talk page before I next checked it.  Perhaps you or someone equally concerned and aware of what was transpiring could have sent an intercom message inviting the parties involved to meet at some neutral arbitration page to get cooled down or scolded, or at least to localize the furore to a harmless location?  ħ uman  15:29, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * If you don't mind me butting in, I'd like to say that I support the idea of setting up a page to handle these conflicts.  15:48, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't think it's butting in to comment on a thread you started ;) Anyway, "a page" for such probably exists (admin abuse, or some such), and also, at any time, a page specific to a given conflict can simply be created.  One thing I thought was rather strange in retrospect (which is how I learned about most of the ramifications of this particular conflict) was that nobody did.  Hence the six and ahalf day gap above between AK's first comment and my next response.  ħ uman  15:57, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

I have just sent you an very important e-mail.
I've always wanted to do that....PFoster 20:52, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Hehe, I got it, sent quick reply. Will do more in a bit after gluing some PVC together...  ħ uman  22:51, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

Creepy correlation
In our editing patterns Image:Rw-cp-top5.png. tmtoulouse 00:07, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah... though apparently you are more likely to be asleep by 8 AM (EST) ;) The little peaks, however, are truly creepy.  ħ uman  00:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)



Well, talk about creepy: have a look at the correlations at CP... -LArron 10:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't see much creepy, really, other that the stalker-esque nature of these graphs. I still think they are funny, but, still... anyway, look at who I correlate with on CP - Hoji, one of us, original cabalist; Bohdan (by whatever name), Danish house wandal... OK, and some other dumbass on my sleep schedule?  ħ uman  03:42, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Indeed, I had conservative in mind. Re stalker-esque: that's why I generally don't try to make connection between different sites. I hope, I don't cross any lines here... --LArron 02:27, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Hehe, I know. Trouble is, in this case you put the conclusion before the data-gathering, I think.  You looked for people with a similar editing schedule, then said "aha! one is a cretin!" - there was almost bound to be a hit.  No big deal, of course, it's still funny.  Oh, and the "stalkeresque" thing I brought up only really refers to the "exposure" of what amounts to editors' lifestyles/schedules kind of thing.  But the data is all public, you are just presenting it in an easy-to-digest form.  So no big deal there, either.  ħ uman  19:38, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

Ted Haggard
His followers just might have asked themselves if all the money they devotedly gave the church was spent in worthwhile ways. Why did you take this out of the Ted Haggard article? Proxima Centauri 07:16, 21 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Because it is total supposition, with no factual back-up. It's just a guess, without knowing anything about the finances of said church.  Likely, he was paid a salary, and how he spent it, was, well, personal.  You often add these "vague accusations" couched in lazy language and the "some say" sort of Fox News style, and I don't like it.  It's cheap, unsupported, and poor "reporting" or writing.  There's a word I am trying to remember that applies to this sort of accusation/claim... sorry I don't remember it right now.  ħ uman  04:06, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 * "Weasel wording"?  21:19, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I think that was probably it.  ħ uman  21:23, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

TWIGO
Regarding this section I was trying to be careful about exposing some great parody, but you do understand my point right? SirChuckB  13:47, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Sure, I get it, I was just playing :) <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  16:39, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Ok, I figured as much, but I wanted to double check. <font color="#000066" >SirChuckB  16:52, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

AOTW
Thanks. tmtoulouse 15:39, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You're quite welcome. Thanks for shaking the tree.  And switching to the "insta-archive" templating version. In other news, I have central heating again as of about 9 PM last night... Woohoo! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  19:34, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

IP says "shame on you"
Oh, writer of Tom Waits, an IP just shamed you for writing so inadequately on him. What do you have to say for yourself? 05:03, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * That's what wikis are for? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  15:22, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * ...  15:45, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

Things are not always as we think they are. Or as they should be?


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 * Nice! Do you want to delete the older version and replace it with this one? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  00:41, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Go for it. I kinna like the drum under it, but then that's how it is in my house, I can look at it any time I please, so you change it and I'll go to bed. life is good. eeeeeek
 * I just swapped the image in the article for the new one. Let's keep both. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms"> ħ uman  01:21, 29 October 2008 (EDT)