Conservapedia talk:What is going on at CP?/Archive15

Blow the fucking goatses
Is going on with this page? Locke   Always Watching...... 02:09, 1 December 2007 (EST)
 * Protected because the boycott's ON AGAIN! Also because you're an evil liberal 89% likely to believe in eating baby skulls. 02:28, 1 December 2007 (EST)
 * Aw man, why is the page locked when gems like these get created :(-Shangrala 16:06, 1 December 2007 (EST)
 * Must. Not. Look!CЯacke ® 16:11, 1 December 2007 (EST)

What is his serious hard on for gay men!?!- 16:12, 1 December 2007 (EST)
 * YOU LOOKED!
 * BWAHAHAHahahahahahahahahaha! Priceless! What, I wonder, are men who're homosexually inclined but not "practicing"? I'd venture user:C knows very well. CЯacke ® 16:25, 1 December 2007 (EST)
 * Save it for later. You can post with impunity once the boycott is over. But it does help if you don't actually look at CP. That's what a boycott is all about. [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]Genghis  Marauding 05:12, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * Too bad you guys are boycotting... because then you wouldn't have noticed this. Oh man it's so full of joy it's great. But I'm sure you all can wait for two weeks. I have faith in you! (Wait, you guys don't do faith -- uh, I have a rational reason for believing that you can do it! Yes, that's it.) Lurker 16:41, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * I confess I've been peeking a bit (the boycott being called for without discussion this time, I feel justified in some limited subversion), and that is quite a comment by Andy. I wonder what the hell he's doing? He let the seemingly innocuous comment by Greg go for several days before throwing down this gauntlet over it. Guess he wants to chase away the contest's most productive participant. DickTurpis 22:20, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * He didn't let it slide; he de-sysop'd Greg (no block, no edit), and just as Greg was apparently going on a trip for two weeks. I knew this before the boycott, fyi :-)... but that makes Andy's little throwing down the gauntlet a little cowardly, no?- 22:27, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * Weird. What exactly was Greg's offense? Merely saying a teacher of his was good despite being liberal? Greg wasn't also one of Andy's students, was he? Andy seemed to laugh off the comment initially. Wow. Andy is such a dick. Does he really think no one can get a decent education unless he teaches them himself? His test was pretty fucking easy anyway. He really does have the maturity of an eight year old. DickTurpis 22:38, 2 December 2007 (EST)

I'll be honest human, I'm on the IP's side on the little edit war you're having over the title of this section. I can't really think of a good reason for changing it, and fighting over it draws more attention to the silly thing. --Kels 17:19, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * But it's fun! human  19:09, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * Oh, that's okay then. --Kels 22:44, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * Basically what it boils down to is that Greg took the midterm exam, got 34/35, and said "my AP US Government teacher is pretty good, even if he's a liberal!". Andy said "haha" and then took down the results, and accused Greg of deceit! -- Ζωροάστρης  23:18, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 * Sorry, I peeked with my account. Totally forgot the boycott. :(
 * He emphasized "Greg", so it appears he's challenging his name as well.  Norseman Wassail!   21:04, 3 December 2007 (EST)
 * Yes, "Andy"'s use of "scare quotes" in his statement suggests that he is inviting/challenging Greg to retract any or all of:
 * That his name is Greg
 * That he got a 34/35 on the test
 * That he learned high school history well
 * That his teacher was talented
 * That his teacher was a liberal
 * It's all really amazing. It seems that, if you say something that doesn't agree with Andy's world view, he no longer even believes in your name.  The whole thing is made more ironic in that the test was open-book and open-web, so getting a good score doesn't mean anything.  Greg might have spent weeks studying the test, and using his "test-taking skills" ("What bit of reactionary foolishness does Andy want on this question?)  For Andy to congratulate a teacher over that is quite ludicrous.  But, that's Andy.  Excuse me, "Andy".  Gauss 16:33, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * That is the sort of thing that makes me seriously wonder how Andy fares with society. How does he interact with it when a substantial amount of it is composed of what he thinks is deceitful/ignorant/immoral people?


 * P.S. I HAD to check Conservapedia, sorry! NightFlare 16:49, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * I've been running the blockade a bit too, and it really is amazing Andy's delusion. The test scores are meaningless for all his students (they could even use *gasp* Wikipedia to look up all the answers). I got 32/35 but I bet if I told him that he'd accuse me of liberal deceit and say I looked up all the answers (not his students though, they're honest). If "Greg" is in an AP history class he should be getting close to a perfect score, whether his teacher is liberal or not. Now if you feel like breaking the embargo some more, the soft-tissue debate is classic. It's like a car-wreck; I can't help but watch. Andy's stupidity is in full force. DickTurpis 17:52, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * Save the diffs to add to WIGO after the boycott is over (you could stuff them in a sandbox to make it easier), so we can check them out when we come out of our self-imposed discipline... human  17:55, 4 December 2007 (EST)

Boycott - discussion
"the boycott being called for without discussion this time"

My new rule is anytime anyone anywhere brings it up, it's on! Of course, that's just my rule, so it means nothing. But I do think it's healthy to do it every couple months or so, eh? human  22:57, 2 December 2007 (EST)

That's enough discussion of the boycott. After all, if the boycott is on, we shouldn't even talk about the boycott. Talking about the boycott reminds us of the boycottee, and that isn't something we want to remind anyone of, so no talking about the boycott. I didn't look. Well, maybe just a bit. DogP  18:51, 4 December 2007 (EST)

Please stop now! Six days, isn't it enough? Even the Almight God rested on the seventh day! I want Conservapedia back, I want WIGO back! There are interesting happenings over there, even without RWians or our esteemed CP Sysops. Please, I beg for your mercy. Editor at CP 16:30, 6 December 2007 (EST)

CBC documentary
I'm getting a little confused about the logistics of this "homeschooling" thing. I thought homeschoolers were supposed to be taught at home with material being provided online or something. But now it seems they apparently have "classes", where CBC can film them together? Isn't that just like a small private school, except with a non-professional teacher? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:18, 1 December 2007 (EST)
 * Pretty much, yeah. There was some discussion of this at the (fake) user talk:Aschlafly page, I think. human  16:26, 1 December 2007 (EST)
 * Yeah, who needs all that (librul) training to teach innocent minds?
 * "Homeschool" is code for non-atheistic school, which in the USA it isn't but operated as-if it were. CЯacke ®

Oh, the NYU Law prof referred in her talk about homeschooling to a "website populated largely by conservative christian homeschoolers," and referred to one who argued that women shouldn't be able to vote. Is that dear Mr Schlafly? My heart skipped a beat when she said it; I think it might be.- 16:33, 1 December 2007 (EST)

Big news
Sorry, running the blockade again, but there's a very interesting development over at CP. Ken's top 10 articles are getting deleted and recreated to bring them back to 0. I guess they decided that the press wasn't so good after all. What will Our L'il Guy have to say, I wonder. -DickTurpis 16:15, 5 December 2007 (EST)
 * I predict there will be many important emails sent around to various people, and subsequent notifications thereof. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 16:18, 5 December 2007 (EST)
 * And search engines around the planet will heave an orgasmic sigh of relief. CЯacke ®
 * Gentlemen, start your clickbots! :D --Gulik 16:34, 5 December 2007 (EST)
 * Well there are still a few pages to go. Maybe Major Tom (Can you hear me?) is dragging out Ken's agony (Oh my babies, my babies). However, the robospiderclickbots have been reprogrammed (in assembly language) not to touch dead pages so expect Ken's Homosexuality to feature prominently for a while yet. [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]Genghis Marauding 16:39, 5 December 2007 (EST)


 * Well that sure is a strange thing for the fastest growing educational site on the Net to do.--BillOhannity 19:35, 6 December 2007 (EST)

WTF!
1. Homosexuality‎ [2,101,898] 2. Main Page‎ [1,999,072] 3. Homosexuality and Anal Cancer‎ [295,578] 4. Homosexual Agenda‎ [274,474] 5. Arguments Against Homosexuality‎ [252,868] 6. Examples of Bias in Wikipedia‎ [239,694] 7. Wikipedia‎ [226,024] 8. Adolf Hitler‎ [223,580] 9. Theory of Evolution‎ [222,058] 10. George W. Bush‎ [212,669]

--Signed by  Elassint the Great Hi! 18:00, 5 December 2007 (EST)
 * Them is some fastest botses!--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 18:02, 5 December 2007 (EST)

Edited to reflect that none of those articles received the Major Tommy Rx. 18:14, 5 December 2007 (EST) CЯacke ®

A very little observation about German history
We evil, atheist Liberals should appreciate that in its comprehensive Germany page CP dedicates half a row of text to WW1, a quarter row to WW2 and eleven rows to the in-between. Is this not the chosen path in today's teaching of history in liberal schools and universities, to forget about the wars and find true reasons elsewhere? Thanks Liberal CP! No really, User Learn together just misunderstood what the term Interbellum means. Which doesn't discount that paragraphs on WW1 and WW2 were forgotten, something that may happen even to the best scholars. Editor at CP 03:26, 7 December 2007 (EST)

I'm Sure It Goes Without Saying
But isn't it weird how they blame liberals for the upshot in pregnancies/STDs when that same number dropped during the Clinton administration? Slink 06:08, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * It is almost certainly due to stupid abstinence-only programs. And that's not a Schlafly statistic, check the old "according to" archive for a Nation mag. reference to a real study... And, yes, it's funny how they can blame libs when their tool has bin in teh white house dummying up r skools for almost 7 yrz. Bill Maher rips on this stupidity reasonably well in his newish HBO special/movie thing (The Decider). human  15:35, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Karajou
For one moment I read the news as "Karajou continuing in TK's steps... out of CP, and Conservative soon following. No Sysop is staying the course anymore." Editor at CP 06:56, 7 December 2007 (EST)


 * I've reworded that in the hope it makes more sense;-) Auld Nick 07:35, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * No need to. It only was wishful thinking (reading) from my part. And what is life, if not an illusion smashed by reality, time after time? ;-) Editor at CP 08:11, 7 December 2007 (EST)

removing all traces of ...
TK's page titling's gone - they've even given it a page of its own. Susan purrrrr ...  12:03, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Omaha shooter
While Andy loves to blame "atheist" public schools for everything, he seem to be missing the point that we can use Schlafly logic to prove the shooter was conservative. First of all, he used an assault rifle. Liberals hate guns, surely no one denies that! Also he was from Nebraska, a conservative state. We all know all college students are liberal, and everyone from the heartland is conservative, right? He was also at a mall, and surely no one denies that conservatives are proponents of capitalism. Liberals stay at home and wait for handout checks from the government and then shop at the organic co-op. I just wonder when Andy, the math genius, will realize that 95% of killers went to public school because 95% of people go to public school. Nice to see him in standard form wetting his pants over a mass murder. DickTurpis 12:10, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * Now now, its not called Schlafly logic, there is no logic involved so i would call it Schlafly illogic. (or Assfly illogic). 204.11.190.33 12:24, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * I don't recall the kid going to college in any news reports, but he did drop out of high to get a GED (possible homskulleeng?). Andy's superior thinking of "That happened because of this, and this happened because of statistics, which ties to not being conservative enough!" was right on cue, along with indirect ad hominem to anyone who disagrees and troll baiting away from weak points in his arguing. Many thanks to the lulz, even if born from a bad moment.  Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   13:49, 7 December 2007 (EST)


 * I think my favorite part is when David R "reveals" that christians don't kill people, so when someone kills in the name of christianity they aren't really christian. That's beautiful logic right there: someone kills for atheism->atheism is evil; someone kills for christianity->somehow atheism is still evil.  Schlafliality must be a wonderful, magical place to live.--BillOhannity 17:14, 7 December 2007 (EST)

My favourite comment on the whole thing so far is this one by Canadian Cynic (who you should read every day). Although it's interesting to see Andy somehow making Seung-Hui Cho into a Muslim. --Kels 21:57, 7 December 2007 (EST)

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I'm too astounded to write any good headline. WHAT THE FUCK? How can criticism of a Wikipedia mail group - the content of which is not even known - be used to justify Andy's SDG, which we KNOW is FUBAR? pOBLuitsnop[ufidghn'l;kn!!! -- Ζωροάστρης  13:30, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * I wish I were here to see some of the text. ;_; KJHDaWGejAsbdja34[;ghf"AWyzxnmb!!! <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   13:49, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * Actually if you read the Register article you would think that it referred to CP but just changing the names to protect the guilty. [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]<font color=Blue>Genghis Marauding 17:11, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Young mass murderers
Apparently, "wearing black from head to toe" is a belief now.-Shangrala 17:25, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * Most likely Andy's attempt to prove his point on the Mall shooting talk discussion, since his words are truth and people should open their minds to believe him and him alone. I wonder if anyone will add more to it, things he won't like. We've already seen Jenkins getting punted for touching it with his grimy liberal fingers. =x <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   17:45, 7 December 2007 (EST)

It floors me that Andy seems to actually think "tl;dr" is a real argument. --Kels 21:53, 7 December 2007 (EST)

I don't know how Conservative manages to think up those long titles for headings while still consistently maintaining such a pretentious and obtuse air throughout
I don't know how Conservative manages to think up those long titles for headings while still consistently maintaining such a pretentious and obtuse air throughout. Anyway...

With respect to WIGO:
 * Why is there no mention of Conservative's articles undergoing the reset... hammer? (axe? flamethrower?) They were the near-epitome of Conservative homo-lulz, and I'm surprised nobody added their deletion here, seeing as it was the first thing that happened during the boycott. Actually, my point is - is it possible to add WIGO items not to the top of the list, without messing up everything else?
 * I doubt it. Just mention in your entry that it happened several days ago. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  18:46, 7 December 2007 (EST)

With respect to Google:
 * lolz no longer 3rd... lost to many interlinks, I guess. 17:39, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * Oh, it was mentioned here on the talk page under Big News, just scroll up. I guess nobody realized it hasn't been put there yet. But WTF, two entries overshadowed MEIN! <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   17:45, 7 December 2007 (EST)

American Indian Genocide.
I can't believe Schlafly did it. I feel a little responsible, because I was always glad of the little island of sanity that that particular article represented on CP, and "Claude, " whose rantings on the Main Page inspired Asshat to make the changes, is actually my sock. Let's see how long that takes to get through the system!PFoster 17:44, 7 December 2007 (EST)


 * History clearly had to be changed, it supported your argument too well. Wouldn't it be great if reality worked that way? --BillOhannity 17:55, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * Lawl, Rob just threatened you for idealogical deceit. <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   17:58, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * He blocked you, for the excuse of vandalism, but throws a quick insult at you because he can! Good while it lasted. XD <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   16:00, 8 December 2007 (EST)

I gotta say, having "Larry 'Wide Stance' Craig" on CP for a whole day was totally worth the blockage. PFoster 16:18, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Who is Marion?
Alright! Time to come out of the closet. Who's trolling as MarionS? Susan purrrrr ...  21:50, 7 December 2007 (EST)

(On the grounds that no-one could be that batshit insane. Susan  purrrrr ... )

On another note, TrueGrit is about to get the hammer; I fear for my fellow Canuck. Can someone recruit him? Shall I?PFoster 22:10, 7 December 2007 (EST)


 * Mmm. Calling Rob smug! Ten. Nine. Eight ..... Bannnnhammmmmer! Susan  purrrrr ...  22:21, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * Whoever they are/were, I found it amazing that what they suggested was actually seen as good by assfly. Making all public schools enforced boarding schools and requiring psych testing to get out?  Wow... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  16:39, 8 December 2007 (EST)

0.o
"Good dodge, worthy of my own technique." - Rob Smith

Is it me, or did he just admit to being dishonest and weaseling out of arguments he's losing? --Kels 22:25, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Its a vandalfest right now - go look! </S> Susan purrrrr ...  22:48, 7 December 2007 (EST)
 * Wow, look at 'em go! Warren Terra 23:02, 7 December 2007 (EST)

They caught on - wonder who 'twas on our side? Susan purrrrr ...  23:05, 7 December 2007 (EST)

JesusGoesToOrpington is me. I did a damn good job, huh?

I was Michael Garibaldi. Ah, it's been a while since I've just done pure trolling, not subversive trying to get on their side kind of stuff. Stile4aly 23:32, 7 December 2007 (EST)

You guys were great. PFoster 23:35, 7 December 2007 (EST)

I just made the Ryan article! --♠ ЃўƏ₪ ♠ 23:37, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Alright, who's FloPey? Obvious its someone well versed in Andyisms, so it must be someone here. DickTurpis 23:39, 7 December 2007 (EST)

I can't believe I made so many articles!

Hey, Andy finally blocked me! :D And when can we do that again? And do you think we'll make it onto the news thingy?

This was my personal favorite. Too bad Andy found it. Stile4aly 23:59, 7 December 2007 (EST)

That was a classic...there's still a few gems that he missed, though, if you look hard enough.PFoster 00:14, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Where Where Where Where!


 * Which conversations are you all talking about?!?! <font color=#012345>a <font color=#6789ab>i <font color=#cdef01>r <font color=#234567>d <font color=#89abcd>i <font color=#ef0123>s <font color=#456789>h 05:20, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Todays mass vandalism spree on CP.


 * Yes but could you provide links? particularly to RobS' dodging remark. <font color=#012345>a <font color=#6789ab>i <font color=#cdef01>r <font color=#234567>d <font color=#89abcd>i <font color=#ef0123>s <font color=#456789>h 14:42, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * Jesus christ your sig is long, try maybe a template? Anyway here's the RobS diff. CЯacke ® 14:49, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * Yeh, i should. is it more or less server intensive to use a template rather than html? <font color=#012345>a <font color=#6789ab>i <font color=#cdef01>r <font color=#234567>d <font color=#89abcd>i <font color=#ef0123>s <font color=#456789>h 14:51, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * It's not so much that as that in raw html it takes up several lines on the source (while editing) each time you sign. Makes it harder to edit well for other people sometimes, as opposed to a much shorter template that provides the same output result. <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  16:36, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Articles left blank for 5 days
Yea...that was me.... When I wrote them I was unaware that none of the concepts contained in them were mentioned in the bible. Therefore, they are completely unverifiable and are most likely incorrect since the laws of physics are constantly changing (see conservapedia's articles on carbon dating and the speed of light, for example). My bad. --BillOhannity 00:17, 8 December 2007 (EST)

The Fossil Foofaraw
Man, that is some weapons-grade antilogic they're chucking around. I got about halfway through it, and here's the quote that nearly made my brain BSOD (bolding mine): There is a world of difference between God and Santa Claus. The Santa Claus story proposes things that we know cannot be done, such as reindeer flying. The accounts of God do not propose Him doing anything that we know a genuine God could not do. Therefore the God account is internally consistent, unlike the Santa Claus account. Philip J. Rayment 07:49, 5 December 2007 (EST) ..>Riiight. Because we have SO MANY deities we've tested under controlled circumstances! --Gulik 04:34, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * I wonder, can a genuine God make reindeer fly? Editor at CP 05:32, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * Whereas men flying without mechanical assistance is completely feasible. [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]<font color=Blue>Genghis Marauding 06:27, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Well, Freya's (brother of Freyja, she of the kitty chariot) chariot was pulled by stags and is often depicted as being able to fly. Some think this is where Santa's sleigh comes from. So, clearly, a real god could make reindeer, kitties, sloths, orang-utans, aardvarks or breakfast cereals fly. The question is, is Santa a real god? Or perhaps it's Sinterklaas being granted divine favour? -- 12:02, 8 December 2007 (EST)

The real question is this: What can a genuine Santa Claus do? --BillOhannity 21:17, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Poor PJR
I like the way Phillip "The Bible is always right and I won't even consider any other possibility" Rayment is for some reason never encouraged to "open his mind" by Andy, even though that attitude is the very definition of closed-mindedness (he really is even worse than Andy in this regard). The really scary thing is that he is one of the smarter people over there. DickTurpis 11:53, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * You seem to misunderstand. They want editors to keep an open mind to THEIR ideas, not the other way around.  Schlafly never says anything about them reciprocating.  I pointed that out to them, which is part of the reason I'm here now.  --BillOhannity 12:35, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Today PJR is at his "best". Am I understanding it wrong, or is he claiming that forced conversion and genocide is allowed and good? Editor at CP 15:21, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * I'm assuming that this is a natural pitfall of inerrantist thought. If a criticism regarding any part of Christianity is allowed to stand, then it's not infallible and the whole thing comes crashing to the ground.  So aside from PJR avoiding the question about forced conversion and genocide by talking about society in general, I would say he's either arguing that they don't exist or don't count. --Kels 15:40, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * As far as I can tell, "Keep an open mind" is the new "In Christ." It's just an empty noise assfly makes to try to sound superior without the hassle of having to make a coherent and logical argument. -- 15:57, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * It's better than his Godspeeds, In Christs, or other repetitive responses, because it's rife with hypocritical irony. <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">My signature makes you horny   16:06, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * Wow. As much as I disagreed with PJR on so many things, I never knew he was actually a fascist until now. I mean, is there one religion/ideology that doesn't claim to be better or more true? And if it is (or if you can't prove 100% that it is not) then any actions taken in an effort to forcefully impose said ideology on other is justified? I don't bandy the word "fascism" around lightly, but that's basically what he's arguing there. CP is a scary place. DickTurpis 17:40, 8 December 2007 (EST)

I once had an argument with him changing articles to state the YEC POV. His response was a classic. He said he was only following the CP Commandments. When I bit, and asked how they related to what he posted, his response was: "The Commandments dictate we post the truth.  Since the Bible clearly shows us we have a Young Earth, stating such is following the dictates of the site." :S --TK/MyTalk|undefined 22:31, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * Thanks for the insight, TK. Is there any sane Conservapedia Editor anymore? Editor at CP 02:58, 10 December 2007 (EST)


 * Thank you, PJR! Your article on Law of biogenesis FINALLY convinced me to embrace Young Earth Creationism. Or not. Editor at CP 06:53, 10 December 2007 (EST)


 * I have no real idea what is up there. What is clear, is that the YEC tide has turned.  No wonder editing is down by over 50% since before I left.  DanH, Geo and HelpJazz, even Ed Poor have been models of reasonableness in the past.  But in spite of Ed's recent creation of a score of stubs lately, the others don't seem to be around much, or wanting to contribute, except the hard-line YEC crowd.     --TK/MyTalk|undefined 08:09, 10 December 2007 (EST)

I saw this on CNN.com. The last paragraph mentions that Australia has a law against creating a false belief. Any chance PJR can be charged? <font color="#00A86B" face="Comic Sans MS">--Edgerunner  <font color="#DE3163" face="Comic Sans MS">76 12:03, 10 December 2007 (EST)

The mind reels
I know full well I shouldn't be surprised with the arrogance, hypocrisy, and stupidity at CP, but how does Ed's statement that liberals hate science jive with the repeated assertion that scientists are all liberal atheists (not to mention PJR's "science can teach us nothing" diatribe)? Andy's assertion that "science" proves that "atheistic" public schools make killers is the least factually supported statement he' ever made, and I'm sure he knows it (what about the 200,000,000 products/participants of US public schools that haven't gone on killing sprees? Anomalies? Or do they just not count?) It wasn't occurred to him that the "only" common denominator is what they are all heterosexual? Or ate bread? Or were not citizens of Botswana? And Ed's even stupider than usual. I should go block him on Wikipedia again for being such an idiot. DickTurpis 18:52, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * Remember, it's only real "science" when it agrees with them. Atheist scientists are "scientists" as well, but that's the wrong kind of "science". -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:13, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * That's actually easy. Doesn't CP also say that atheists hate themselves (or are at least unhappy because God, Sole Provider of Happiness is not there) and that love is wasted on an atheist? So there you go: All scientists are liberal atheists who hate themselves and their job. Duh. It's all part of the great Circle of Life Liberal Atheism. --Sid 19:41, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * It's can't be quite that simple because we can observe that "science" or "scientist" are used sometimes as positive words (such as here) and sometimes as negative words. That leads me to think that we are actually looking at the two entirely groups {science α} and {science β}, the former of which is what you describe, while the latter resolves to something like {pseudoscience that we use whenever it agrees with us or when we just think it help our crazy arguments}. As always, CP hides many layers of moronity beneath a surface of apparent simple stupidity. -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 19:53, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * An excellent (if somewhat disturbing) point, yes... --Sid 20:06, 8 December 2007 (EST)

I never met a phor I didn't like
Oh my. That assfly lifeboat thing is sheer genius, kudos to whoever dug it out. Way to take a parable about faith and turn it in to a literal tale about being shipwrecked. Conservapedia's new motto should be literalism ad absurdum. -- 18:58, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * They're only 'literalists' when it suits them. Look up Aschlafly's rant about the parable of Jesus and the Adultress if your eyes need some extra rolling. --SockOfGulik 19:46, 8 December 2007 (EST)


 * What are you supposed to do if Jesus isn't on your particular boat at the time? --BillOhannity 21:51, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * Linky please? -- Ζωροάστρης  23:48, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * Here. CЯacke ® 23:50, 8 December 2007 (EST)

You Heard It Here First
<---Putting on Jean Dixon hat.

Ahem, I predict CP will cease to function like a wiki before the end of Capricorn (Jan 22ish) and will cease (as a web-presence) altogether by the Spring Equinox.

That is all.

19:16, 8 December 2007 (EST) CЯacke ®

As with Mark Twain, I think reports of Conservapedia's demise are exaggerated. As long as Andy keeps ponying up the dough, it'll keep running - though I gotta wonder why he spends so much time dealing with the trolls, day in and day out. You gotta figure that must be getting old for him now, along with being called an idiot several times a day, and putting up with Ken....I mean, after a year of that nonsense, why bother? Wouldn't he rather be watching football, hanging with his sweetie or doing the Lord's work at the local church soup kitchen or something?

My prediction - look for it to close up a little bit by going the Creationwiki route and requiring registration and confirmation to get in...11:18, 10 December 2007 (EST)

Binary truth operators are left associative


So, assfly sez (still in school OR out of school) AND under 21. Of course one can simplify that expression to just "under 21", using my amazing powah of intellectual dishonesty. -- 19:22, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * Actually, it gets even more idiotic when you read it the way he apparently meant it: "Anybody in any sort of school, and anybody out of school under the age of 21 counts as a young mass murderer when he runs amok". Around here, you can be a university student when you're 90+, and even regular students can be 30+ if they're slow and in the right university. So if they grabbed a gun and went wild, they'd count as "young mass murderers". Brilliant. Looks like the article name itself should be named "((young OR in school) mass murderers) AND anybody Andy wants to include to make a cheap point". --Sid 19:38, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * I added Temujin to ratwiki's list of young mass murders, 'cos he was a homeschooled, god fearing young man who got started on his killing spree age 13. Inspirational. -- 19:55, 8 December 2007 (EST)
 * Yes, but wasn't he an ancestor-worshipper or something? Would we really want such a person to be a role model for our children? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 06:25, 9 December 2007 (EST)

It's a bit odd that no one pointed out Charles Whitman to Andy. While I guess he was public schooled (almost everyone in this country is), he was a Christian altar boy, as well as an Eagle Scout and marine. Of course, he had a brain tumor and came from a dysfunctional family, but I guess it was his attending public school that drove him to murder 14 people, right? DickTurpis 14:41, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * Sorry, but the initial comment in this section really distorts what assfly clearly meant (maybe he rearranged commas after the comment was made?). He means "anyone in school" or "anyone under 21".  Of course, the rest of the analysis (people can be in school to any age, are they still "young") is valid.  And, of course, assfly's weird fixation is perverse in its ridiculous agenda.  I did notice already that they were all male... obviously, penises are the cause! <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  15:56, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * Nah, the punctuation has always been that way. That was the whole point of this section, plus the note I added to the main page. It's taking the piss out of ourselves :D -- 16:00, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Pronunciation: 10/10. Speelinj: 1/10
How does anyone manage to get the correct pronunciation while spelling it wrong twice? =Meningoenephalitis= Meningoenephalitis (pronounced "men in joe en sef uh LIGHT iss") is an inflammation of the brain and meninges (membranes) that involves the encephalon (area inside the skull) and spinal column. (Wonder how long it'll take to correct.)* Susan  purrrrr ...  10:15, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * Oh and it's been there since AS (the infallible) dun it on 2 june & there've been 4 subsecwent later edits! Susan purrrrr ...  10:36, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * How long until Conservative makes an article on "Homosexuality and Men in Joe"?Shangrala 12:44, 9 December 2007 (EST)

* About 5 hours: (Move log); 14:45. . DanH (Talk | contribs) (Meningoenephalitis moved to Meningoencephalitis) Susan  purrrrr ...  15:03, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Who dares wins (or not).
Marcus dares:, Andy takes the dare, 4 minutes later heeeeee's blocked. Susan purrrrr ...  10:29, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * And 5 minutes after the block he gets warned that he might be blocked for 90/10!  Susan  purrrrr ...  10:45, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * This is a serious question. When Joaquin (author of the warning above) came on board at CP, I got the impression of a erudite, sensible, knowledgeable editor. Is it just me, or do some months at CP make editors dumber? I guess that would apply to me as well. Editor at CP 12:04, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * I have seen Joaquin fall from an above CP level to average, while some average editors (Ed Poor, PJR,...) have fallen to abysmal levels. Some already were at the bottom at the start, so they couldn't become any worse (RobS, Conservative, Andy,...). IMHO, Editor at CP 12:19, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * To be honest, Joaquin has always been a puzzle to me. Half of what he posts seem like non-seqs to me.  I think its the syntax and language thing.....--TK/MyTalk|undefined 03:11, 10 December 2007 (EST)

Women wearing pants
Oh My Goat! I had to check it twice that it was indeed Ed, and not a lame troll. Editor at CP 13:17, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * I am so glad that nutter got desysopped on Wikipedia.Shangrala 13:40, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * So, where do you reckon god stands on kilts, kimonos, togas, salwar kameez, etc.? Seems god has a distinct lack of foresight in making the rules. -- 14:18, 9 December 2007 (EST)

You mean you haven't read about kilts? Susan purrrrr ...  14:23, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * That is a truly sad article. Is Ed single?  This might explain why.- 14:23, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * I was about to make the WIGO item about Ed's obsession with cross-dressing but was beaten to it. I just wonder if Jesus invented trousers. Unfortunately, Ed is married with children, poor things.  I hope they get good therapists. (Whatever you do, don't click on the mother photo link.) [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]<font color=Blue>Genghis  Marauding 14:30, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * Married makes more sense--perhaps Ed fears the temptation of harlots in tight jeans. As to the picture of Mother, that is exactly how I've pictured Ed looking (minus the long hair and earrings, of course, and maybe adding some facial hair).  --WJThomas 14:45, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * "...perhaps Ed fears the temptation of harlots in tight jeans." Maybe he should just change his name to Garp and get it over with. XD --Kels 17:26, 9 December 2007 (EST)

I took a look, and apparently that vile, misogynist quote (but what else do we expect from pathalogically dishonest, woman-hating Ed?) is a direct quote from a book by this John Quinn asshole dude. Seems he used to be an RC Archibishop who quit and went over to the Moonies, which I believe Ed's a member of. The rest of the tract/book Ed got it from is pretty vomit-inducing, too. Says a lot about him as a person if he supports this crap, let alone reads it without vomiting. --Kels 14:36, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * You mean John R. Quinn from San Francisco? In the Unification Church? Where did you get that from? -- AKjeldsen Godspeed! 14:53, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * No, Ed's piece is by a Moonie named "Jon Quinn", not "John Quinn", and certainly not the RCArchbishop.--WJThomas 15:08, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * I dunno, one of the Google hits talks about a Moonie who used to be with the Catholics, but left them about 1988 or so. Thought it was the same one. --69.156.0.242 16:32, 9 December 2007 (EST)

I'm all for women not wearing pants. Actually, I'm for pretty women wearing nothing at all. &mdash; Unsigned, by: 195.71.90.10 / talk / contribs
 * What about non-pretty women? Pffft, take what you get. <3 <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   16:12, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Have you seen Jon Quinn's selling site. Nice that he (Ed) can't even spell his quotation source correctly isn't it? Susan purrrrr ...  21:41, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * Ugh, I looked at a little of the crap on Quinn's site, but I can't get through more than a couple of paragraphs before my own small intestine tries to strangle me. When you have gems like "When women found [Rev. Moon] they then did not want to be object to their husbands who were fallen and they wanted to be the bride and object to True Father.", it's hardly surprising.   Maybe some of this could be part of an "According to..." entry? --Kels 21:57, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * Yes, I really like the 12 kids by 40 (even if it means adopting) book. (ouch!) Susan  purrrrr ...  22:36, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Scarcity....
So without giving too much away, I'm a grad student in history, and I work on the history of famine. And now I'm going to have to rewrite a chapter of my dissertation to account for the fact that in Ethiopia in the mid-1980s, things would have been much different if they'd only, you know, "prayed more." Thanks for the tip, Assfly. Will you be my outside reader? PFoster 14:11, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * They did pray, and now the son of God, George W. Bush Jesus has provided them with the strength to crush their infidel neighbour Somalia. -- 17:12, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Ed shows just how dadgum smurt he is
Ignore the fact that their values of 3:1 and 1:2 are 1.)probably wrong and 2.)even more probably made up, just look at how eloquent he is in the language of mathematics. We haven't seen work published like this since Einstein's special theory of relativity. --BillOhannity 16:25, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * His contributions to the LOTR stuff makes me cry, as well as Schlalilafly's. "Merry" instead of "Meriadoc"... did they even read the books? <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   17:44, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * Of his 21 new articles, over half of them are three sentences or less, seven of them relate to lord of the rings, one tells us that drums make a thumping sound (no joke!), and one is, as you all have found out, about women wearing pants. --BillOhannity 17:48, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * I just love the "look at me" aspect of it all, obviously not getting the right approval from his family. I mean is this guy 40+ or 14? [[Image:jollyfish.gif|25px]]<font color=Blue>Genghis Marauding 18:07, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Oh man. The dude is actually proud of his "drum" article. Lets compare Lil' Ed's article:

A drum is a percussion instrument which makes a thumping sound.

With what the MW dictionary has to say about drums:

a musical percussion instrument consisting of a hollow, usually cylindrical, body covered at one or both ends with a tightly stretched membrane, or head, which is struck with the hand, a stick, or a pair of sticks, and typically produces a booming, tapping, or hollow sound.

Methinks someone needs to explain to Eddie the meaning of the word "encyclopaedia". -- 18:26, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * Heck, you'd think he would have been aware of the article I started on cp:Drums... before I was banned... <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  18:43, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * Yours doesn't even mention that they make a thumping sound. An article about drums that does not mention this fact is an article about drums that I don't care to read. --BillOhannity 18:49, 9 December 2007 (EST)


 * They keep on forgetting the moderates in the population, by far the largest group. I think people have told them that before... Sterileminichatroomthingy 18:31, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Probably the longest article he's written, Black Riders, doesn't even say what they're actually called (Nazgul) or what they are (Ringwraiths, recipients of the none rings made for men). And then he brags about his pitiful substubs and crap he writes? I'd be embarrassed. And this guy was once an allegedly productive editor at Wikipedia? DickTurpis 18:41, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * And just to nitpick, it was Elrond, not Gandalf, who drowned their steeds. (Yeah, my geektitude is on fully display here. I know.) DickTurpis 02:31, 10 December 2007 (EST)
 * I just realised how multi-purpose Ed's writing is. His description of a drum can be recycled for any number of everyday objects. A hammer for example is certainly an instrument, it makes thumping noises, and percussion is pretty much its raison d'etre. That's what I call economy. -- 18:49, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Oh noes
Another tragic shooting to bash liberals and atheists with. <font color=Blue>Genghis Marauding 18:02, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * It's up, and amazingly enough, no "public school", "liberal", or "atheist" anywhere to be seen! <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   18:50, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * He shot Christians, that's all Andy needs to know. He must be wetting his pants with glee!  --Kels 19:02, 9 December 2007 (EST)

It's pathetic that CP's only response is to blame someone. Do they have a solution? Probably prayer in school, or something. (Or maybe make everyone pay for private school, since paying for school seems to make people not shoot people, by his logic.) Sterileminichatroomthingy 19:27, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * While they're at it, they should mandate prayer in shopping malls, movie theaters, restaurants, and everywhere else that has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Hell, people will be so prayered (is that a word?) out that there will be no need for church anymore. --BillOhannity 19:43, 9 December 2007 (EST)

School vaccines
Did Andy just state an admittance of manipulation while doing the obvious of evade-dogging the reference request (and support by Kookajoo)? <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Norseman <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color = "0000EE">Wassail!   18:50, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * Yes, he did. He also ignores whether or not mercury in a molecule is still poisonous.  And whether or not thimerasol is still being used as a preservative.  I liked his line about "lots of mercury" (emphasis mine).  Also - our WIGO entry on vaccines containing planets is really embarrassing (to us).  If assfly had capitalized "Mercury" I might buy it, but he didn't, and small-m mercury means the element.  We know it, he knows it, and I may delete that entry soon, ok? <font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">human  20:51, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * I think what is supposed to be funny about the WIGO entry is that the link goes to there article about the planet. - Icewedge 21:45, 9 December 2007 (EST)
 * Thermosil was removed as a preservative, I think the news items said, back a year or two ago with the problems some had with contact lens cleaners. Andy is sometimes behind the times.......very busy, you know! --TK/MyTalk|undefined 22:28, 9 December 2007 (EST)