User talk:Chillpilled

--Hastur! (talk) 03:57, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

From now on, all your edits shall be marked as "patrolled"!
-- Goatspeed. 23:30, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Note
Because of your edits to and time on the wiki,  has been added to your user rights. If you have questions, bleat ask away. Judge Dredd (talk) 13:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Award
Bongolian (talk) 02:17, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Request
Can I ask you to keep an eye on Keir Starmer? Unfortunately it looks like what happened at JKR isn't going to be a one-time event. AMassiveGuy has admitted on the talk page he intends to scrub mentions of transphobia from the article. Nope Rocket (talk) 23:00, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I added it to my watchlist, don't know what he's gonna change but found some of his talk page comments about it inaccurate. Chillpilled (talk) 00:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * May suggest taking it to the mods or something rather than me if you have an issue with another editor though. But currently he hasn't changed a lot that I see anyway. Chillpilled (talk) 07:04, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry to throw this at you. But there doesn't seem to be many people active in this area. Yacob01 has been pushing back on the Starmer article. But they're new and might need some support if AMG digs in his heels. I'm not really sure I'm up for round two. And if I'm being honest the mod intervention in the JKR discussion left a lot to be desired from my end. I'm going to focus on working on the KJK draft, mainly because I want to finish what I started. Nope Rocket (talk) 07:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems somebody else went ahead and took him to the coop, as fate would have it. Was not expecting that to happen so fast. I may wait some time before commenting there, myself, see how it plays out first, but I suppose any more relevant discussion should take place there instead. Chillpilled (talk) 09:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, that's certainly unexpected. I'm not sure I would've escalated it at this stage. But I do have the sense that this is a continuation of a pattern of behaviour that started last weekend on the JKR article. The way that AMG has repeatedly asserted that the Starmer article is "bullshit" and a "hit piece" without detailing how is reminiscent of the way he opposed negative descriptions of JKR in spite of all evidence presented. It appears to me that AMG has a personal axe to grind. Specifically, that he wants sanitise coverage of unpopular UK political figures. I'm just not sure how to tackle systemic transphobia on RW when the Saloon Bar is a home to a bunch of "debate me!" clowns parroting anti-LGBT talking points. Nope Rocket (talk) 14:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ....and they're already moving to close the coop case. Nothing changes. I'll finish the KJK article, but that's it for me, I guess. Nope Rocket (talk) 14:31, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Transgender
I took a peek in your sandbox. The book Biological Exuberance by Bruce Bagemihl is perhaps currently the definitive source for different sexualities and genders in mammals and birds. I cited it in a few pages. Bongolian (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Egad. Have you been spying? What a coincidence if not. I was just about to ask you for general feedback on the overall restructuring. I thought about taking it to the saloon bar, but had enough confidence in it that I only wanted one more opinion. It was practically a mental coin-flip between you and Cosmik. In any case thanks for the source. Chillpilled (talk) 06:24, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Spinster
Thanks for your excellent work so far on this article. Just wanted to let you know how appreciated your contributions are. :) Nope Rocket (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, although I need to be going somewhere shortly, so I can't edit consecutively for much longer. The list of shitty posts Gleason has made is long, perhaps too long to bother including in that article (lest it just become about him). So there's plenty where that came from. Previously the Gab-Spinster link had only been noted at RationalWiki:Webshites/Gender, and I'm happy to have been granted the opportunity to dump such receipts on a mainspace page instead. Chillpilled (talk) 15:50, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I think it's fine if the Spinster article serves as a hatrack for covering some of Gleason's and Fain's other doings. There's certainly a precedent for that e.g. the LGB Alliance article that's doing double duty in covering "GC" figures who aren't independently notable enough to warrant their own articles (though I think Maya Forstater at least probably deserves an article). I'm probably going to be parting ways with RW due to this situation. If you want to stick it out, know that your work is vital. And very good. Take care. Nope Rocket (talk) 17:15, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Google translate
If you're going to work on translations, work on it yourself rather than letting Google translate do the work for you. The fact that you didn't spend much time on it as well as the fact that the majority of your sentences were identical to what happens when I put the English article in Google translate made it obvious, and it probably would be even more obvious if I could actually speak German. Don't do it again. Plutocow (talk) 18:53, 7 May 2023 (UTC)


 * , that I "didn't spend much time on it" is just wrong, at least in the LGB Alliance deutsch translation I actually had that tab open for like three or four days (the other two are rather short pages). I opted to create it all at once because the ref names would be screwed up if I did any otherwise (there's frequent re-use of citations between sections).
 * You were right that I was using machine translation as an assistant but wrong about my exact set-up: I used a cross between ChatGPT (mainly), Google Translate to double check it, and my own intense scrutiny towards each line to have certain idioms and other English sayings translated well enough (because of the nature of ChatGPT I can enter a dialogue with it about these cases; in a handful there was no good German translation so it had to be rephrased.)
 * (Also in translation of one term -- the German equivalent of the term "Global Flood" -- ChatGPT suggested "globalen Flut", and Google Translate thought it was fine but I had a hunch there could be a better term and sure enough I find that Sintflut is the best term).
 * I also had a native German speaker look over the pages, who told me the LGB Alliance translation: "turned out quite well. while reading it, i was thinking about how this is better than whatever google translate would produce[,] since anything beyond single words or short phrases is usually turned into gibberish by google translate". They did also say there were a few grammatical mistakes here and there, but this isn't anything that's absent in the typical English article.
 * However it's why I opted for articles not dealing with matters requiring very precise language (unfortunately I don't think I could have done germ theory denialism because the wording in the terrain section is intentionally very exact) and especially medical articles, at least where there needs to be precise medical wording (the ROGD and conversion therapy section in the LGB Alliance page is pretty straightforward unlike say acupuncture or something). Machine translation of such articles is completely routine on e.g. Wikipedia so I'm surprised you cared enough to nuke the articles. I mean what's the harm, given the above? Versus the benefit, of drawing in people who only speak German. Chillpilled (talk) 19:29, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * We actually have standards for translations, and Languages says:


 * If you can only translate using machines like ChatGPT and Google Translate, you shouldn't be doing this. It's okay to practice in draftspace or your userspace, but for mainspace we have higher standards. Plutocow (talk) 19:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Suppose I missed that, although I would point out it was only ever added in 2019 by Spud. Chillpilled (talk) 19:48, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It was there since before you were here, and you had to have read the article since you edited it. That's on you for not doing your due diligence. Plutocow (talk) 19:50, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Promise I've been lurking around here since before that. And yeah I get it although I should add that I only ever edited that after creating the pages, after seeing it in the recent changes but just to add the new entries, not to read the whole thing. Chillpilled (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Board nomination
GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 23:46, 7 July 2023 (UTC)