User talk:UHM/Archive 3

Templates in your userspace
Why are you putting them there? -- Nx  / talk 09:54, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought nobody else would use them. If that's not the case I can move them. -- 10:03, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, no-one's going to use them if they're in your userspace. Also, you might want to put them on the relevant subpage of RationalWiki:Userboxes. Also also, -moz-border-radius works only on firefox. Not everyone uses firefox. Older webkit browsers need the -webkit- prefix, and newer browsers use just plain border-radius. -- Nx  / talk 10:19, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. I didn't know about the -webkit thing, my css is a bit rusty. -- 10:42, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Take it easy
A 2 day block for messing with your subpage is inappropriate. You do have the right to issue short blocks sufficient to give you time to fix what he did that you don't like and deter the same conduct. You don't have the right to issue arbitrarily long retaliatory blocks. Have a look at the Sysop Guide and keep the blocks to a reasonable length please. There's no reason to IP block a regular editor FFS. 13:24, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Coop me then. -- 13:28, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 1. Did you really think Ace was going to stay blocked that long? 2. Did you really not imagine that by reacting in such a way you would only provoke a larger counter-reaction, instead of just rolling with the punches and thereby defusing the situation? Do you not know the difference between "wandalism" and "vandalism"? -- that difference is pretty ingrained in the RW aesthetic. ‎Capital punishment doesn't undermine the moral or legal foundations of a society. ‎It is the moral and legal foundation of society. 13:36, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 1. No. 2. I was hoping Ace had a brain, obviously I was wrong. 3. I don't care about the difference. Now go annoy Rob again. -- 13:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to coop you or do anything else unless you keep misusing a basic sysop tool. 13:46, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok then. If Ace stops we won't have any problems. -- 13:47, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Aceace 23:59, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, everytime you vandalize or wandalize my pages I will block you even longer. If anybody is annoyed with unblocking Ace, thank Ace for it. If this goes too far for the community and I'll loose my rights the statement would be quite clear. -- 00:06, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a challenge! Aceace 00:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The stupid, it burns. -- 00:08, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed it does. Aceace 00:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ace do you really want the community to make the statement that it doesn't care about the rules but only who breaks them? I don't care about sysop rights, I almost never block anybody and everytime I would move something I would have to ask somebody to do it, so they get annoyed by it and not me. I won't stand for any elections anymore, I won't coop, I will not open votes. I have nothing to loose lose here. -- 00:14, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you mean "lose"? Aceace 00:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah so I don't know what the deal is here - I guess you're trying to make some sort of statement? But that wasn't unfunny, it was actually funny. I'm the first to call out unfunny and repetitive vandalism, but that was amusing, minor, and isolated. It was what we call "wandalism," and you should know that by now - you've been here long enough. But I know everyone loses a little sight of things every now and then, so just chill and shrug it off. Let the whole thing go. People will rag on you for a little bit longer, of course, so just revert it and ignore it. This is, completely seriously, the best policy here. You be chill, everyone else who are rolling their eyes really hard at these theatrics will be chill, and everything'll be cool.-- 10:43, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Also note the very next edit after my block. Would it not have been easier to do that in the first place instead of shitting your pants and blaming me for the smell? Aceace 10:46, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Because you have to behave like a child, it was a way of not getting into an edit war. -- 10:56, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I am chilled. I have to say I find it rather amusing that Ace still does it. Reminds me of a child that just wont stop angering a bulldog even after he got bitten. If you haven't noticed it I blocked for 1, 2, 4 and 8 days — maybe people are able to see a pattern here. I don't give a shit about wandalism or "funny vandalism", if Ace does it on my page he will be blocked. It's simple. Now everything that seems to happen is people telling me I should relax — instead of, you know, telling Ace to stop it. If you think that doesn't qualify me for sysopship, remove my rights. What the community does is the actual statement, not what I do. And that is all quite telling. -- 10:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not a doctor of chillology, but you don't seem chilled. You seem to be extremely intent and grim, which is admirable from the standpoint of focus, but maybe not where we should be going with this.
 * It's fine if you don't care about jokes or the like. But this is a pretty lighthearted place, where a common method of communication is through blocks rather than formal comments.  Joke vandalism is pretty common, generally very minor, and a large of the culture.  Telling Ace to stop it would be beside the point - he made a joke, and any wrongdoing was so minor that it'd be knee-high to a grasshopper.  The problem was, instead, your wildly excessive serious blocking of someone who cannot unblock himself, combined with the restriction to stop him from editing his own talk page so he couldn't even ask to be unblocked.  That was uncool, and completely out of proportion.
 * Even worse, you're not solving your own problem - you're exacerbating it. Just take a step back and think about your goal.  Is it really to stop people from teasing you?  Or is it to make some kind of principled point - a brave and firm stand against blahblahblah?  Actually think about it.-- 11:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You may believe me or not, but I am chilled. That's all I can say about that.
 * I don't care if people make fun of me and I'm not trying to stop anything. The same way I don't care about the traditions. I want to see what comes first for the community. If you think my blocks go too far desysop me. If you think Ace goes to far, tell him. Lets see what comes first. Lets see what the lab rats will do. Btw, if he vandalizes again I will block him again without being able to edit his own talk page, simply because I am able to not leave that box marked. -- 11:43, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What comes first? It's not really much of a thinker, buddy.  If you abuse your powers, you lose them.  First another sysop or a mod will take them away, then (if you keep abusing) there'll be a vote.  What's the choice to be made?  You're banging your head against a brick wall and declaring that the wall has a choice to be made, but I'm just telling you that the only choice that'll happen is a bloody skull, because there's not really any alternative.  It's not like people could just ignore your crazy blocks - blocks of people who can't unblock themselves are one of the things that are actually taken seriously.-- 12:06, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, AD. I know that, would I have asked that I would have asked "What comes next?". What comes first? Principle or saving an old buddy? I'm interested in how long it will take and who will do it. -- 12:49, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Your questions have been answered. –TeenageCumSlut Condemns electoral fraud at RationalWiki 12:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That wasn't a request, idiot. Now let's see if you are ever going to argue with rules again. -- 13:00, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * "If you think my blocks go too far desysop me." I do, so I did. –TeenageCumSlut Condemns electoral fraud at RationalWiki 13:03, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

So
how's the weather where you are? steriletalk 00:50, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * gray and bland like your personality? Aceace 00:51, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's the best you can do with that? You're boring. -- 10:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Tedious with a chance of sanctimonious? 02:30, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Except for the hypocritical part in sanctimonious, I take that as copliment. Better then the hulkish personality traits you two combine. -- 10:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's to be expected. When it comes to your "criticism" of me you've never had anything but uppity pronouncements - no substance, no analysis. Just partisan shit from an intolerable noob trying to protect his 2 pals, who are equally intolerable and loathed by the community, while demanding this community change to accommodate you. If you can't tell, you're being handed your hat. 16:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nutty, outside of RW I have no contact with brx nor Maratrean. And I wont change that. And for analyzing you or whatever you may think should be analyzed about you, some things are just too much of a waste of time. Now, if you could for once in your life be an adult, fuck off my talk page and only talk to me in a mod function or if it's about an article? If you try to talk to me on anything else, I probably wont waste the disk space answering you. -- 16:14, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It has been sunny for days here. I'm looking forward to the winter though. I like the cold more. -- 10:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

cannot edit own talk page
Yeah, usually one doesn't block like that. Aceace 10:41, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I did. -- 10:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Why should I not be able to edit my own talkpage? Aceace 10:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Because I didn't mark that box. -- 10:57, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent, now you have learnt something for next time. I hope this has been enlightening for you. I certainly feel pumped. Aceace 11:01, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to be able to edit your own talk page, don't vandalize my pages. -- 11:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Ace's hypocrisy aside, the option is checked by default as far as I know, and you have to manually uncheck it. Furthermore, the fact that you can do it doesn't mean that you should. That option exists to allow a blocked user to protest their block without having to use proxies or socks. It should only be unchecked as a last resort. -- Nx  / talk 14:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I know. I still did it and I have absolutely zero justification for it. Anyway, it's not a problem anymore. -- 14:56, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

*ahem*
Now if somebody would unlock my user page that would be nice… -- 13:36, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Mods
I have no faith in the mods as people at the moment. And the structure I am talking about is the post-hoc ruling on making Nx's behavior OK. And the lack of structure when it comes abuse of mod powers. pretty simple and I am sorry if you are confused, It didn't seem to difficult to me. Aceace 22:58, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if that would make sense it would still be terribly worded. But, whatever… -- 23:03, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lucky it isn't up to you care or understand. Aceace 23:06, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Why did you post on his talk page, then?-- 23:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * because he asked me too you idiot! Aceace 23:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

argumentum ex brx
What do you mean?-- 20:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Something I told you before. -- 20:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Right. I should just make a new account like Blue said. --  20:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If I were you I would demand the exact opposite of what I want. Bflat, Godot, Ace and few others will then ensure that you don't get what you want, but as you want the exact opposite you get what you want. For greater lulz say a few times after the fact that you did exactly that. -- 20:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * lol. Btw, it seems P-Foster is finally listening to reason, although he won't admit it.--  20:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Its quite obvious
Brx needs a time out - he has been bitching for hours. 5 mins is going to kill him. Aceace 20:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Erm, I'm going to think that you meant "not going to kill him" — I really hope so. I think you'd need a few months to think about things (although even that time probably wouldn't suffice) and a drunk tank, but I'm not blocking you over it. -- 20:49, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever. Aceace 20:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Hanja
It's a bitch to study, but I actually like it...because it's just pictures. --Dumpling (talk) 07:56, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, pretty much on point. It's always much easier for me to learn the meaning of a sign (a.k.a. the German word for it) then the Sino-Korean pronounciation of it (seriously, how many fucking signs can 저 have? Not to forget 조, 처 and 초 which sound almost identical…). I wish Korean would still use it in normal texts as much as Japanese, then guessing what a word might mean wouldn't be a gigantic pain in the ass, but one would actually have chance to get it right. Ahh, I'm only 24 and already sound like grumpy old man being annoyed by the children playing on the lawn… -- 16:44, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of cartman
I just came across a clever picture of him-- 22:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You have weird definition of the term "clever", although that ass is nice — also the cat is nice, too. -- 23:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's "clever" by 4chan EncyclopediaDramatica standards, which is to say, juvenile rather than clever.  23:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have a question for you, Stabby the Misanthrope. What crawled up your ass?--  00:51, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Brxbrx. What's going on? 00:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

cunty dicks, dicky cunts, it's all a bunch of transgenders

 * cuntish next to dickesh. never seen that done.  it works!! equal opportunity and all. [[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot   I hate sluts 23:26, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks, I guess. -- 23:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Achtung, fraulieb (kidding)
In America, even Germans are allowed to be moderators. --  19:47, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a problem vice versa either. I'll have to think about that mod thing (honestly did not expect to be nominated) as late January and early February will be packed full with exams I really really should do good in.
 * And please explain to be what "fraulieb" is supposed to mean? -- 21:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Huh. I thought it was the German equivalent for Miss.  That's what I get for learning German from Indian Jones villains.--  22:01, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait, Frau is woman, liebchen is dear, right?-- 22:02, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The word you're looking for is Fräulein -- Nx  / talk 22:03, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wonder where I got the B from-- 22:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And I wonder how you went from "äu" to "au" which are different sounds and from "ei" to "ie" which are also differen sounds. Still, wonderfull fail. Also we don't really use Fräulein anymore - maybe parents to their teen age daughters (like the English "missy") - but except that, nope. Same goes for Liebchen, that just sounds like you're already receiving a pension... -- 22:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't have "ä" on my keyboard-- 00:14, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Nur ein Gedanke
Umbenennung der FDP nach Berlinwahl in F(ast). Z(wei). P(rozent). Frohe Weihnacht ansonsten - Gruß aus dem Land der Bembel an all die Fischköppe -- 23:46, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hehe. Wahlslogan: "Fast Zwei Prozent - Wir repräsentieren die ein Prozent!". Ich gebe den Gruß an die Fischköppe weiter, bin ja selber keiner. ;) -- 00:05, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Gutentag. Ich bin ein Berliner.  Arbeit macht frei, schnell, sheiße.  Achtung! Das alt leide, mein herz brennt.  Zwitter.  Wollt ihr das Bett in Flammen?  Eisbrecher, du reiche so gut!  Bauhaus haus, da?  Auf wiedersehen.--  01:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's not German, that's Rammstein-speak. -- 01:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Only most of it...-- 01:56, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

OH! Sorry!
(ㅠ㉨ㅠ) I didn't mean to not give you an honorific. I was stuck between oppa and seonbae! But I shall refer to you as UHM-Oppa now. ^u^ Okie?--Dumpling (talk) 20:59, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Okie-dokey, Dumpling-yeodongseang! (← is that creepy? I don't know, I almost always use ssi…) -- 21:25, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not creepy, but you don't have to use that term with me considering I'm already younger than you. (Unless you REAAALLY want to rub it in) Haha. So just saying 'Dumpling' is fine. No honorifics for the underlings. --Dumpling (talk) 07:06, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Lack of social skills
Gotcha! 17:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Damn! It's still kinda right though… -- 18:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

So I was reading my German textbook...
I really dislike the German word "zwar", it has a number of weird meanings. Also, time to abuse Google translate:
 * "Zwar" - indeed
 * "Zwar zwar" - while indeed
 * "Zwar zwar zwar" - while indeed true
 * "Zwar zwar zwar zwar" - while indeed true though
 * "Zwar zwar zwar zwar zwar" - while indeed true but indeed
 * "Zwar zwar zwar zwar zwar zwar" - while indeed true but indeed indeed
 * And then "indeeds" are affixed endlessly.--Dumpling (talk) 03:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you ever heard of ? Peter Monomorium antarcticum 03:49, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hahaha! I have! I still am very confused by it. --Dumpling (talk) 03:57, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If you care, teh Buffalo thing works like this:
 * New York bison, (that other) new york bision mess with, mess with (other) new york bison. Denver Tom, Kansas Scott harasses, harasses St. louis Sue.  or -- The Denver Tom that Kansas Scott harrasses, harasses St. Louis sue.
 * I don't think you have much to fear about "zwar". I can honestly tell you that I have never seen two "zwar" together, mainly because even for Germans that's headache inducing and also because we generally don't like doubling sounds or using the same word twice in a sentence (in school they teach us that a frequency of three sentences if possible is the minimum for repeating a word — the exact opposite of Korean or Japanese, so to speak).
 * Thinking about it, the grammar behind it is fairly simple (if you can say that at all about something related to German grammar). Basically it is used when you want to stress that two facts are equally true even if they may be opposing. For example "Zwar habe ich die Bestellung schon aufgegeben, sie ist aber noch nicht angekomen." ("Even though I ordered already, [but] the delivery hasn't arrived yet."), or "Zwar hat die Kanzlerin einen Gesetzesvorschlag angekündigt, allerdings wurde dem Bundestag kein derartiges Dokument vorgelegt." ("The chancellor has announced to propose a new bill, but the [members of the] Bundestag has not seen such a document as of yet.").
 * So basically you get the following sentence construction for almost everything with "zwar" in it: Zwar [factoid 1] [conjuction like "aber", "allerdings", "dennoch" (but never "und")] [factoid 2]. The problem with "zwar" is that there is no such word in English, because English does this with voice tone. I can't find anything equal to zwar in Spanish, Korean or Japanese either…
 * You should look out for "und zwar" which has the meaning of "exactly [that one]". Although as that never comes at the beginning of a sentence (it's said to refine something), that shouldn't be a big problem. -- 14:08, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Rumor out there is that you are german.
this be true? Godot   Grow a vagina 18:05, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Um, yeah. Not a Nazi, though. -- 18:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * My hubby and I live in France every year or two (for some citizen status and taxes, not really sure I get it, but whatever), for the summer. This year, we wanted to go to germany for an overnight trip, but didn't have any idea where we should go.  It has to be train accessible, since we don't have a car.  So two questions, what's the name of the German rail company so I can look for tickets, and do you have any suggestions of towns / cities that you'd say "this is a must do".  Just curious for suggestions before I start real planning.  thanks![[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot    Grow a vagina 18:14, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You want Deutsche Bahn (www.bahn.de) and you can get virtually anywhere in Germany by train. You have to see Berlin. I'd also recommend the wine region in the Mosel. München is popular but it's in Bavaria, not Germany. --Fergus Mason (talk) 18:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * There's an overnight sleeper Paris Gare du Nord - Berlin but it don't come cheap. Jack Hughes (talk) 18:31, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I tried Eurorail, but thought I was doing it wrong, cause it kept coming up "Berlin zoo", instead of just Berlin Station. But as I didn't know the word for station in german, I didn't konw how to google it.  yes, i could have used google translate.  ;-=)  [[Image:Pink mowse.png|25px]]Godot    Grow a vagina 18:35, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing you want to see a beautiful German city? I've actually never been to Munich or Berlin, so I can't say much about that. Frankfurt isn't really noteworthy, very urban and not really clean from what I remember. Stuttgart is nice and not far away from the border, but not very big. Cologne is pretty neat with the Rhine and the dome and all, depending on when you want to go the weather and the smog are quite exhausting (don't do it in the summer). Hamburg is very beautiful (and actually where I am) but pretty huge and you'd have to plan out what to do because there's soooo much to do. Bonn comes to mind too, but that's just really if you like old cities. I'm not a big nature guy, but the area around the Mosel are said to be very beautifull, also the German coast is nice but the winds are quite stiff. I've heard Leipzig and Dresden are now nice cities again, although if you'd decide for Dresden get ready for weird comments that are meant as bizarr jokes (like, "ah nice to see Americans back here again, looking for how we built the place up again?").
 * Not, directly Germany but Luxembourg City is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever seen. -- 18:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Meine zwei Pfennig... 08:28, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Berlin Zoo (or Berlin Zoologischer Garten) is one of the railway stations in Berlin: it was the main station in West-Berlin. And yes, it is misleadingly named...
 * You should be able to purchase tickets by the SNCF: e.g., you can get to Frankfurt from Paris in a TGV in less than 4 hours.
 * Where to go depends on what you want to see: Frankfurt (600,000 - fifth biggest city) and Cologne (1,000,000 - 4th biggest city) aren't pretty towns, they were destroyed in WWII and rebuilt autofreundlich und modern (modern and friendly to automobiles). But there are still interesting monuments in both cities - and Cologne's cathedral is breath-taking.
 * Berlin (3,300,000 - biggest city) is a good place to go, many interesting sights, great museums, operas etc. galore. But I prefer Dresden (500,000) which cramps so much stunning baroque architecture in a much smaller place
 * Hamburg (1,700,000 - 2nd biggest city) is my favorite city, impressing by the somber design of the 19th century. Near to it (according to Rianair) you find the city of Luebeck, one of the world heritage places.
 * Munich (1,200,000 - 3rd biggest city) is splendid, too - and a nice place to drink beer. But so is the whole of Germany :-)
 * I like a couple of smaller towns, too: Nuremberg, Würzburg, Quedlinburg, Xanten, Heidelberg, Trier, etc. You just have to decide what you are interested in: culture, food, history, beer, landscape, etc.