Essay talk:Liberal art

Exterminate ...
Somewhere else there's a list of songs (Greatest_liberal_songs) / error/duplication/exterminate/exterminate/exterminate/exterminate /.... Keepthe faith Oops ... didn't see... but laziness, my personal life ethic, kind of forbids me to remove my act of writing stuff which needed energy... might correct that eventhough if feel like it .... --Murumbi 11:30, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

How dare you steal my personal life ethic. Now I've got to fall back on procrastination. ... Perhaps tomorrow ... Keepthe faith 12:31, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Wouldn't you be part of the sub-kind of the human species called PhD students... because I know that they ( of which I happen to be part of...) have made it their specialty ... --Murumbi 12:57, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Naah. Never been one - I'm an antique disilusioned old hag. I do think that the quality of such here (RW) gives one hope for the future though. ... but then there's conswervapædia ............. Keepthe faith 13:06, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Evil Metal
Could you clarify the difference between good evil bands and evil evil bands (or bad evil bands)? You specify Manowar of an example of a good evil metal band but they are not "evil" at all. Also, Black Metal is now saying to see Marilyn Manson? I'm so confused! ollïegrïnd 11:31, 24 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Clarity has never been one of my virtues I have to admit, what I call the evil metal bands are those not liked by our archenemies (e.g. Marlyn and all the other god hating disbelievers) where as the good evil metal bands are those metal band which have a message fitting the believes of our CP-friends ( like good old manowar). Now I could also discuss the Rammstein issue a bit while I am at it ... Rammstein has little distorted image problem, the core fans of Rammstein in germany used to be frustrated unloved bold guys... yet Rammstein's never put a real political statement in their early albums (hell frustrated but they pay for their food), but now that they have enough food for the next couple of years try  to get rid of their image... and I could go on and on on that subject and start speaking about their lyrics which are mostly related to sexual behaviors which where surely not allowed in the bible... but I have to stop ... work a bit sometimes to, I have.... --Murumbi 12:13, 24 July 2007 (CDT)


 * In Links 2 3 4 Rammstein establish themselves as leftwingers, and I put it there to mock the type of conservatives who don't even go through the trouble of finding a translation. And yeah, some of the behaviours in their lyrics are definitely disturbing. MiddleMan 12:24, 24 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Yeah that's what I meant when I said that they tried to change there image, and you could also add that having clawfinger as first part of their concert is also quite explicit... the main part of the crowd didn't really get the point when the lead singer of clawfinger shouted "this is an anti fascist song" just before starting to sing "Nigger".... --Murumbi 13:16, 24 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I'm still confused. CP and Manowar sharing beliefs? They sing about Norse gods and hailing England - 2 things that CP would definitely not approve of. Aside from their brief post-911 patriotism they rarely talk about anything more current than the renaissance (except for motorcycles and rocking hard). I hate to see their good name tarnished. ollïegrïnd  13:05, 24 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I have to admit that I might have been rushing a bit on my manowar claim and been stuck to the heavy "pro-war-ish" speech of my all time favorite break-fast band... but I am sure can find a good example of what I mean... --Murumbi 13:16, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Of course the whole thing begs the question of whether you can assign a political pigeonhole to the arts in the first place. Overly propagandistic stuff, sure, but that's a minority. But then look at Republicans trying to claim South Park as "theirs" and decrying the lack of "Conservative values" in movies as if promoting an ideology was the point. That said, howzabout adding Al Gore into the movie section? --Kels 13:10, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

I have to agree with you Kels... should stick maybe to the very clear cut ones and not hypothesize all to much, there are enough examples of proper oppositional stuff --Murumbi 13:16, 24 July 2007 (CDT)