Talk:Achristian

Often, as with many arguments that have their inspiration in something more than just logic, there is substantial anger and even some hatred involved in the achristian mindset. -- I added this, but I'm not sure it's worded neutrally enough. This is one group of people who tend to make me want to say "chill out, nothing is 100% bad", because frankly I find most members who fit into this new term, to be so ridged and hate based, they are nearly as bad as that which they hate.--Waiting for Godot 13:10, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmmm, I think the wording was ok. The reason I started this "article" was due to the occurrence of these people, who although they are avowed atheists, humanists, secularists, etc., seem obsessed with Christianity, debunking minutiae in the Bible, etc.  Anger is a significant component as you added.  Sadly, although they aren't what I would call "misguided" (they're on the right track), they expend an enormous amount of energy fighting or arguing about only one religion. That reminds me of something I need to add...  ħ uman  15:38, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Isn't this approach to unbelief already covered by antitheism? 04:13, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Nevermind, I see we do not have an article on it.  04:16, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Achristian vs antichristian
Hum. This article seems to be describing more the process of someone being anti-Christian rather than so much achristian. I'd contend, by analogy with atheism and antitheism, that the only thing that achristian means is that the person in question does not subscribe to the Christian viewpoint, whereas antichristian would imply actively fighting against Christianity. In that sense, pretty much anyone who subscribes to any other religious viewpoint that just happens to be not Christianity is an achristian. Diego001 14:29, 19 February 2009 (EST)
 * Hmmm, good point, expect I would say one thing - achristians tend to be specifically "not Christian". (Yes, they are also anti-Christian)  A person of another religion would not be specifically "not a Christian" - they'd just be something else.  ħ uman  22:24, 18 February 2009 (EST)
 * Anti-religion? We mention other religions at the bottom.--Bobbing up 06:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)
 * However, an atheist who is an atheist from a non-Christian religion could be considered an achristian just as well. Diego001 14:29, 19 February 2009 (EST)
 * Only if they had an axe to grind against Christianity specifically.  14:39, 19 February 2009 (EST)

edits
If I'm stepping on toes, sorry, but I felt a need to edit the general tone of this piece. EternalCritic 15:13, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Dawkins
The Text Reads:


 * Richard Dawkins could be classified as an achristian, as he expends most of his efforts against Christianity, and in The God Delusion he prefaced his arguments by asserting that in consideration of the notion of "God," only a view broadly in agreement with the Christians' (a monotheistic view of a creator worthy of worship) should be considered.

The referenced text does not support this assertion. However, in chapter three Dawkins does write:


 * I decry supernaturalism in all its forms, and the most effective way to proceed will be to concentrateon the form most likely to be familiar to my readers - the form that impinges most threateningly on all our societies. Most of my readers will have been reared in one or another of today's three 'great' monotheistic religions (four if you count Mormonism), all of which trace themselves back to the mythological patriarchAbraham, and it will be convenient to keep this family of traditions in mind throughout the rest of the book.

Which is what the author may have been thinking of. But it still doesn't make Achristian. While one might make a case for this description of Dawkins, I don't think you can do it through these parts of the God Delusion. I have cut the text.--Bobbing up 04:33, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

Template
Religion is too broad in scope. Should the navigation template be Christianity, or should it be Atheism? John Childermass (talk) 23:36, 25 May 2011 (UTC)