User talk:Mei/Archive6

Don't edit others comments
There are three reasons for this: If you do it again I will promote you. - User  User:Π/Sig/randpi 03:42, 7 March 2009 (EST)
 * 1) It is against the community guidelines.
 * 2) It is unethical to attribute quotes to someone who did not say them.
 * 3) It might be funny to do it to Fall down but I have seen where that form of troll baiting leads, it took me 5 minutes to clean up a mess made an enraged troll/vandal once. After provocation of that form he started rewriting other user's comments to make it appear that they were paedophiles, it was not funny. This is why you don't feed trolls.
 * Which vandal was it? User:Phantom Hoover/sig0 12:23, 7 March 2009 (EST)
 * Back in June/July last year we had visits for a foul mouthed little troll from CP named Jinx, we invented a sport called Jinx baiting. One day someone pushed him too far and we made a mess all over WIGOCP talk. - User  User:Π/Sig/randpi 06:09, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
 * 'Twas Fd: mei was attributing naughty words to him. User:Toast/sig/sig 12:27, 7 March 2009 (EST)
 * No, it was clearly a different troll. User:Phantom Hoover/sig0 12:28, 7 March 2009 (EST)
 * If you know why ask? User:Toast/sig/sig 12:47, 7 March 2009 (EST)
 * Another grevience- Mei won't discuss massive removal of data before doing it. She removed the marGAY section without notice or discussion. Didn't bother to try to improve it- point=good, wording=bad- but simply deleted. --User:CUR/Cursig 12:45, 7 March 2009 (EST)
 * Wait, you made a dumbass lame "gay" joke and you are complaining that someone cleaned it up? Gently fondle yourself, and then go curdle.  ħ uman  22:25, 7 March 2009 (EST)
 * She is more disruptive than I was. Or am. --User:CUR/Cursig 19:40, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
 * You know the wiki tells me when you mutter stuff like that on my talk page right? User:Mei 19:43, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Yes, I do. --User:CUR/Cursig 19:47, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
 * "She is more disruptive than I was" - no she isn't, not by a long shot.  ħ uman  22:08, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

You are Astrophilia
bitch. Fall down 01:20, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Be nice. If you know how.  ħ uman  01:42, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Wrong. Keep going though. It's funny when you're wrong. Mei 04:49, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

the title
testing. Mei 04:48, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Hey, some instances of your sig are linking to "Mei" instead of "user:Mei"...  ħ uman  19:06, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I know I don't know how long ago that happened. Can I fix them automatically? Mei 19:08, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * THere's lots of them . Mei 19:08, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I don't know of any way to do it automatically. At least you could find them all by going to the red linked page and clicking "what links here"?  ħ uman  20:16, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Move protect
Probably not a bad idea. - User  User:Π/Sig/randpi 22:46, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * It's pretty cool. You can stop it from being moved without blocking normal edits. Probably couldn't stop him from moving everything though. Mei 22:47, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Well over a CP they have move restricted to just sysops. As a vandal he shouldn't be able to move pages at all, I have asked Trent to look into it. - User  User:Π/Sig/randpi 22:50, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Trent is ttoulouse? Mei 23:01, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
 * tmtoulouse, yes. Here, there, and everywhere.  ħ uman  00:12, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * ok cool. Mei 00:19, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Mei
Stop taunting CUR. 15:14, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Finally. Thank you, PH. -- 15:15, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm not trying to taunt him I'm undoing his nonsense. Mei 15:16, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * CUR joke? -- 15:18, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * You insist on keeping every crappy joke you write until the entire community has told you not to (margay anyone?). The template is a fucking excellent way of gauging whether they deserve to be there or not. You think search-replacing my name for yours is a winsome argument? Mei 15:20, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * The felidae essay is just that&mdash;an essay. CUR, as the original creator has full control over its contents; the debates were about his policies on edits to it. 15:23, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Wrong. He wants it in the mainspace. It's not rocket science. Mei 15:25, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah, he wants it in the mainspace, and that's why he has to improve it to our standards. As an essay, you have no place complaining about content. You can criticise it, but don't lambast CUR for keeping it. 15:27, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * PH we both know it's not a real essay. It could've been in fun but that wouldn't have made it funny. Mei 15:29, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * (EC) Which is why, to make peace, I made the proposed sections page. This will enable us to develope those sections so that they can be added. -- 15:30, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * It's a content fork. I've been to Wikipedia CUR. And am I allowed to develope that page? Mei 15:33, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * As long as you don't delete anything aside unless you discuss it first, yes. You also cannot add poking jokes. -- 15:37, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Those were not "poking jokes" they were valuable markers for your "wit". Mei 15:39, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I think it would be prudent to point out at this point that the template produces "" when added to a page. 15:42, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah. That was supposed to happen. What do you mean? Mei 15:43, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Get that template out of the main template space. You have 2 minutes to do so, then I will delete anything outside of your userspace. 15:19, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

You know, I can kinda get not liking CUR. He can be difficult to get along with at times, but for the most part seems to be a good kid. But after a while, it gets on my nerves to see folks treating him as an automatic whipping boy, or to overreact to something he's said or done more because it was him that said/did it, rather than it being bad in the first place. As PH said, it's his essay. So long as it's in essay space, it's his call. And it doesn't matter if it's a content fork or whatever, this isn't Wikipedia. If his essay was on WP, then WP rules would apply, but this is a harmless little sandbox where CUR plays with his cats and makes silly jokes. Mei, you've got the right to suggest changes and such, but if it offends you terribly, you just don't have to click the link. Pretty easy, that. --Kels 15:49, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I don't play- I work. Everything I do counts towards a goal. My goal with the cats is to produce a fine-quality article that will help this wiki. Hard to do sometimes, but at least I try. -- 15:52, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * (EC)Play or work, it doesn't matter, so long as it's still in essay space, you're in charge. You'd lose control of it in main space, and you'd have to accept that folks like Mei have their own ideas and the right to change things without your approval, but that doesn't really apply here.  However, if you want it to be better, you'll have to accept the criticism and make improvements based on it.  Even jokes you may think are brilliant.  As Stephen King rightfully put it, during an editing process you have to be willing to kill your own babies, for the sake of making your writing stronger. --Kels 16:01, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Kels, I hear what you're saying and you make a lot of sense. But working on the article with him (however bloody it gets when he and I lose our temper) is a lot less cruel than letting him work on it alone for months and then refusing point blank when he wants to move it back. A 100% CUR essay would need a 99% rewrite to go in main. Mei 16:04, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * 2ECs! Also I keep hearing that I'm "taunting CUR". Not quite. The fact is I actually like cats, stupid as that sounds. Cats are cool, and I want to have an article on them that isn't lame. I'm not going to change my mind about this. Mei 16:13, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Perhaps so, but I see a lot of stuff here, in the Saloon Bar, and so forth, that just amounts to piling on the kid. I'm okay to an extent, but after a certain point I just get fed up with rhetorically pouding on and making fun of one person who's not actually trying to damage the place.  I guess your rather gratuitous "CUR joke" template fell into the camel's back range this time. Maybe a little more forbearance, dealing with CUR takes an excess of patience and tenacity. --Kels 16:09, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * EC Yeah I've never been very good at patience )oops). I'll have to try to stop editing last thing at night. Mei 16:13, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * "My goal with the cats is to produce a fine-quality article that will help this wiki" = fine but you have to accept that you can't do this by yourself. An article is collaborative, and it follows certain rules. After all this you still haven't decided whether you want that or not. Mei 16:00, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I have. But I need honest help, like I get from Martin and Weaseloid. If you edited like them, no problem. Now, half the cats you added to the list are duplicates. I've narrowed them down, and will get to work. But I will need help. Will you help me? Would you please do the clouded leopard, while I do lynx? -- 16:11, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * If by "honest help" you mean for me to jump through your hoops, forget it. "duplicates" = funny. They were from WP. "Would you please do the clouded leopard" = CUR it breaks my heart to tell you this, but that list was just to show you how impractical doing them all would be. We can't do it. Sorry. Mei 16:15, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I removed all but a few. These are the most unusual cats, and therefore deserve attention. They include the wild cat (ancestor of domestics), the leopard cat (crossbred with domestics, and therefore an example of how closely species are interelated), the ones we already had sections on, and a few others I can't remember. -- 16:23, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Common sense exception
Common sense exception == changing a template transclusion of a talk page to a link.

Common sense exception =/= removing people's comments just because you don't like them. --  Nx / talk 18:35, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * You don't get off that easy. Mei 18:40, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Stop it. Please. --  Nx / talk 18:42, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * If this was painless you wouldn't learn anything. From the top? Mei 18:45, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Clicking revert is pretty simple. And what is it that I should learn? Please, enlighten me --  Nx / talk 18:48, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * "No exceptions" + "common sense exceptions" = dumb. How was what I did different to what you did? Mei 18:52, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * There are exceptions, if I did say "No exceptions" somewhere, I was clearly wrong. As for how different it is, do I really have to explain it to you? --  Nx / talk 19:12, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Yes. Mei 19:13, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * (EC) Sigh. You transcluded a whole talk page into another talk page. This is bad because: a) it breaks page layout b) it makes the page extremely long i.e. it takes longer to load, needs more memory, FF even failed to render it properly (has some issues with very long text) c) it makes it difficult to find stuff that is, you know, RELEVANT. I changed it to a link to the template. In fact, I first thought you merely wanted to link to the page.
 * You removed a whole conversation, which is against the rules. But you know what, since it doesn't say right there black on white that what I did is allowed, feel free to take the case to RationalWiki:Administrative Abuse --  Nx / talk 19:25, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * "This is bad because"? Lame. These templates here are bad because they hurt my eyes. I changed them to links. "feel free to take the case to RationalWiki:Administrative Abuse" = come off it. This is a debate. Mei 19:37, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Also on a tangential topic, removing a less than day old conversation from your talkpage, even to archive it, doesn't reflect well on you. - User   19:16, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Yea I didn't think of that. I just like confusing archives. I like puzzles. I'm going to move it back. Mei 19:18, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Felidae
Please come back. I think we're making progress. 19:08, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm going to vote for your version because it's pretty much what that section should be. I'm not fully coming back because I'd only end up yelling at CUR again. Sorry. Mei 19:11, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Fuck it
I've got better things to do. --  Nx / talk 19:49, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Images
Unless the image is under copyright there is no need to delete it just because it is unused. - User   22:20, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh. Really? I just thought it was untidy. Mei is useful 22:35, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * A long time ago I went on an "unused image" deleting binge. Probably saved a good half megabyte.  That's US twenty cents worth of hard drive space... for a few hours work. The reason Trent set up imagebot (the CP WIGO capturer) is that storage space is not, and never will be, an issue.  I'm sure you meant well, though :)  ħ uman  22:51, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Actually deleting won't save hard drive space as they are still on the database that is why you can restore them. Hard drive space is a joke these days I bought a 1 terabyte (1 trillion bytes) for $160, Windows XP can't format anything larger 123 GB as a result I have multiple logical drive and still have 200 GB unformatted space. I got a good laugh the other day I bought a 4 GB SD card about 1 squared cm and no more than 2mm thick, I had a harddrive about two computers ago that big and it was a chunky thing. Back to RW I think the new server is 250GB larger than the old one. - User   22:58, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * "won't save hard drive space as they are still on the database" = true dat. I think they get "really" deleted after a bit though. Mei is useful 23:01, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Nope, nothing is ever truly lost on a week. There are some major things you can do but ultimately Trent can always go back and play with the database. - User   23:06, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * I remember the 20MB HD in the time-shared machine at work in the mid eighties. 'Twas about 7" cube, and was actually composed of three separate hard drives.  ħ uman  23:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Heh, we got christmas sales. 1.5 terabytes for 100 bucks.  Damn....-- 16:10, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

Mei's soliloquy
Verbs are lots of fun especially if you will be shouted at if you don't do them.

Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Verbs Ver'''Fuck it. I'm watching Mulholland Drive.''' Mei is useful 16:06, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

About that reversion...
Hi, Mei.

You beat me to the punch on it. For what it's worth, I agree that you are useful. Enjoy your weekend.

(AND I'll forget about all of those nasty things I thought you were saying about me with the user span class command.) The Foxhole Atheist 22:36, 13 March 2009 (EDT)


 * Hey I said nice things too! I was like "hehe this will be funny"... And then I was like "wait! I like people!" It was like Dickens. Mei is useful 22:40, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

Sig
Put a link to your userpage in your signature please. If you deselect raw signatures in preferences and enter "Mei is useful" into the nickname box, mediawiki will do it for you automatically. --  Nx / talk 05:22, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
 * On it. Mei is useful 05:31, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

Religion
Thank you for your Support on the Religion Essay. Do you with to be a Co-signature of Mine or would you Prefer to start your Own response essay?--Tolerance 15:02, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Not sure I agree with you that much. "your own response essay" = not needed really. Mei 15:47, 18 March 2009 (EDT)