Talk:Glyphosate

Source for later
Good studies in here for carcinogenics. 21:36, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Get this stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3uwt8w/whats_your_take_on_gmos/cxprp5o 01:34, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

IARC
I attached two links that examine the research and conclusions of the IARC regarding glyphosate. Frankly, it is alarming how bad it is, and amazing how these professionals let this slip.


 * http://academicsreview.org/2015/03/iarc-glyphosate-cancer-review-fails-on-multiple-fronts/
 * http://theleagueofnerds.co.uk/2015/09/08/does-roundup-give-you-cancer/

Should we elaborate on the IARC monograph in more detail and examine when and where it falls apart, as my two sources did? And if so, should a separate article be made for that, or just fit it all on this article? Feredir28 (talk) 21:21, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Depends how much detail you want. If you're going for a side-by-side or something similar, make a new article; if you just want to summarize and then cite rebuttals, here fits. 22:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think a side-by-side piece is necessary, unless anyone here insists on that option. The monograph is not long, but a brief general summary of each key points along with rebuttals should be enough IMO. I guess we can start there, and if this grows over time, then we can decide later what to do. Feredir28 (talk) 23:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Dropping this here
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/4jlnw7/who_monsanto_herbicide_unlikely_to_cause_cancer/d38em0n 13:03, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Roundup giving non-Hodgkin's lymphoma lawsuits
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/10/health/monsanto-johnson-trial-verdict/index.html

Has this even been studied? People are suing Monsanto because they believe Roundup gives lymphoma lawsuits. Glyphosate can't be the culprit. In the article itself, according to WHO, there's only limited evidence between glyphosate and non-Hodgkin lymphoma.

"But Litzenburg said glyphosate isn't the big problem -- Roundup is. He said the interaction between glyphosate and other ingredients in Roundup cause a "synergistic effect" that makes the product more carcinogenic."

I'm not sure what does this even mean. Litzenberg is an attorney, not a scientist, but he acts like this is like tobacco and lung cancer, and I... I don't think it's quite that. 00:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

In the midst of me yelling at an anti-Monsanto guy during the lawsuit discussion, someone brought up how the IARC's 2A classification of glyphosate is dubious to begin with. The source is a Forbes article by Geoffrey Kabat, so make of what you will. This includes fabricated findings (bad studies with improper statistical analysis, removing negative conclusion and replacing them with positive or neutral ones) as well as a potential conflict of interest. This is adding on to the above links

18:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

BTW it appears that the IARC rejects the claims (pdf) from the Reuters article, which the Forbes article cites. Fair enough, so we should drop it or just add that part in fairness. It doesn't seem to want to take responsibility about how their classifications are so easily prone to misuse by the media though and just how confusing the classifications are, and it also says that it's under attack from the agrotech industry, but I don't buy that, aside from some ghost-writer from Monsanto being exposed. 01:43, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Update (quite late, but still relevant): [https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/12/19/usrtk-carey-gillam-collaborated-monsanto-plaintiff-attorney-charged-extortion-14467 Timothy Litzenburg, was arrested for the attempted extortion of $200 million from a company involved in the production of Monsanto's Roundup. This same attorney collaborates with Carey Gillam and her anti-GMO organization U.S. Right to Know.] This really reveals quite some shady behaviour to say the least, as if exploiting cancer patients [telling them that they can make big money if they blame some company without any basis] wasn't shady enough. Nesslig20 (talk) 21:50, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

EPA now says it won't approve labels that say glyphosate causes cancer
https://phys.org/news/2019-08-wont-glyphosate-cancer.html

For once I actually agree with what's normally a festering coal tumor of an environmental organization. 00:48, 11 August 2019 (UTC)