RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Deep ecology

Deep ecology | Result: Speedy close - even the proposer isn't proposing deletion

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Delete

 * 1) The extreme versions can easily be merged into hard green and the vague wishy-washy Næss version promoted on the talk page is hardly worth mentioning as it smacks of Sunday school environmentalism. ScepticWombat (talk) 08:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Keep

 * 07:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Weaseloid, any specifics about what's "keepworthy"? Or is it just on "general mission relevance" grounds? ScepticWombat (talk) 07:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I haven't read it start to finish, but it appears to be a mission-relevant topic & is long enough for a RW article on a minor topic. What I don't see here is a rationale for deletion: only "can be merged", which isn't an argument.  If that's what you want to propose, it should be on RationalWiki:Duplicate articles rather than AfD.  08:08, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, my bad, but how often do editors actually check the duplicate articles section and should I move it there instead?
 * Anyway, I'm arguing for a merge with hard green (and perhaps a fork pointing to hard green and environmentalism for the differing strains of deep ecology) and making deep ecology a subsection of that article since the RW-relevant bits (depopulation and Luddite factions) are probably better covered there. By contrast, the vague over-hedging Næss version with its huge escape hatches as to what may constitute "vital necessities" for humans really don't seem very relevant to RW as, in practice, it dovetails with rather mainstream attitudes about environmental "stewardship" (i.e. not carelessly fucking up the environment). For instance, aiming for population decline, but only recommending voluntary family planning is simply advocating practices wholly incommensurate with your goals. This "Næssist" strain might tag on some spiritual woo à la the Gaia hypothesis to general environmentalism, but not much beyond that. ScepticWombat (talk) 12:27, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge as above. The duplicate articles page isn't checked as often as here, but what's the rush? Bicycle  wheel silverbrain.png 20:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Goat

 * 1) Merge as a section in hard green - David Gerard (talk) 10:02, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) ^  11:46, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) Agree.  - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 02:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 4) Done. ScepticWombat (talk) 20:00, 29 July 2015 (UTC)