Conservapedia talk:Blatant plagiarism/Russell Kirk

This is so fucking retarded. Do you not know that plagiarism is the singly most abhorrent accusation you can make against an academic (A bit like accusing a doctor of trying to kill you) Unless you have clear cut evidence then the charge shouldn't be made. Fucking disgrace. MarcusCicero 11:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * While the articles differ somewhat, one is clearly based off the other, and that one is RJJensen's. 11:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting he is guilty of plagiarism? He isn't. MarcusCicero 11:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia article had been through 114 edits by the point specified on the page, including contributions from over 30 named editors and over 20 anons. The possibility that RJJensen would write the same article from scratch is so small that I think the accusation is quite fair. Even the links from WP that appear as redlinks on CP are copied. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 11:56, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC) No, it's not as clear cut as that. I just had them open in diff, and they vary quite significantly, so it's not as if he copied and pasted, but it is clear that, at least for the first several paragraphs, that Jensen's article is a rewrite of the Wikipedia one. 11:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure - it's an edited copy and paste, but it's still copy and paste. The structure and basic style are the same, with a few conservative paragraphs thrown in. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 11:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That was what I was trying to convey. 12:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He still wrote the vast majority of it. As far as I can see the majority of individual wikipedia edits are one liners, most inconsequential. Again, you are going to have to be more persuasive in order to prove he is guilty of plagiarism, because thats a very fucking serious accusation to level on an academic. At the moment he is entitled to sue you and if I were him I would seriously think about doing that! This is nothing other than hysterical 'want to see the worst in people at all times' at work. 13:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What? Has your grasp on reality completely deserted you? The articles are the same in overall structure: he copied the Wikipedia article and reworded it. Moreover, the WP article was also not written by him; it was written by some BoNs. 13:28, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. If both articles were submitted as essays in an exam, the examiner would be certain that cheating had occurred. The similarities are too striking to be coincidental. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 13:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)