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Revision as of 04:26, 19 January 2016
Contents
- 1 Avenger's main feuds
- 2 Hey, Mona
- 3 Could you please explain what you mean by...
- 4 Relevant to your interests....
- 5 I strongly agree
- 6 Suspected sockpuppet
- 7 Song contest
- 8 I'm gone for a long time for various reasons
- 9 BONs
- 10 Why do you defend the Zionists?
- 11 "I didn't make it "infinite" I had it a month."
- 12 Esperanto
- 13 Archiving
Avenger's main feuds
You did say you would be willing to give me an overview of Avenger's main infractions. Would you do me the favor and name, preferably with links, the most important? I'm absolutely not asking for everything. He's written far too much for that. But I have promised to take his case up, and so I will. That last one is of course dependent on his giving a public, personal promise to stay away for a long time from the bones of contention. He can then write as he pleases about his specialties. He seems to be some kind of Marxist - perhaps he could write something there, and he is well versed in German literature, to name two examples. I'm not quite sure, how long he should or would be banned from writing anything at all, or just banned from specific topics. He's shown himself remarkably unwilling to promise anything on a personal level, so if he doesn't contact me, nothing will come out of it. I didn't gain a personal promise the last time, and I possibly won't get any now. But when the elections are over and the moderators are all accounted for, I'll bring up the case and at the same time allow him to edit his own page, unless I've heard nothing from him by then. His User page is after all the only place he can accept or not for all to see. Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 22:43, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sorte, I didn't promise you I'd do that. What I wrote was this:
I don't have anyone or anything on a Watchlist; haven't even investigated how to use that function. Nor will I be messing with matters pertaining to Avenger until the mods say what is going to happen there, and when. Paravant, when still a mod, binned him. Mod David Gerard did as well. As a mod Paravant less recently binned, blocked and de-mopped Avenger numerous times. So did some sysops, not remotely mostly me. But I won't get to all that this week, in all likelihood. Moreover, while the basic principles of evidence should apply in any judgment about the world, this is not a courtroom modeled as to form on jury trials. For multiple reasons, it cannot be
- It is my profound hope Avenger has decided to remove himself for good, especially now that his partner in trouble is gone. With first Avernger's crap, and then all that drama in the weeks around Xmas, it is well past time to return to what I'm here for: editing articles. If Avenger returns and is cooped, I'll possibly cull some of his choicer things, but I very much hope I will not have to waste one more iota of time on his shit. If you feel you've made some pledge to him that can't be broken, so be it, but I feel no obligation and am simply relieved he's not here.---Mona- (talk) 02:06, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- "He seems to be some kind of Marxist..." He is whatever is expedient for pushing his neo-con worldview, which is really just Arisboch's worldview. If it suits his purposes (bashing liberals) he will offer himself as a lefty who's seen the light. The guy has no personality or opinions of his own and probably glommed onto Arisboch because he was the most righteous/visible. Plutoniumboss (talk) 05:44, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- "neo-con worldview" And not the only Marxist one. Norman Geras was a Marxist academic (he died a few years ago) who drafted the so-called "Euston manifesto." The signatories and supporters are strongly Zionist and consider essentially all left critiques of Israel anti-Semitic. Many, including drafter Geras, are soi disant Marxists.---Mona- (talk) 06:06, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- Be that as it may (and I'd argue those guys were Leninists; Marx warned against vanguardism) I don't believe he's read more than a thimble of Marx. It's all schtick. Plutoniumboss (talk) 07:30, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- "neo-con worldview" And not the only Marxist one. Norman Geras was a Marxist academic (he died a few years ago) who drafted the so-called "Euston manifesto." The signatories and supporters are strongly Zionist and consider essentially all left critiques of Israel anti-Semitic. Many, including drafter Geras, are soi disant Marxists.---Mona- (talk) 06:06, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- "He seems to be some kind of Marxist..." He is whatever is expedient for pushing his neo-con worldview, which is really just Arisboch's worldview. If it suits his purposes (bashing liberals) he will offer himself as a lefty who's seen the light. The guy has no personality or opinions of his own and probably glommed onto Arisboch because he was the most righteous/visible. Plutoniumboss (talk) 05:44, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I have pledged, that's true. On the other hand Avenger doesn't seem to be in a hurry to answer, so it may all come to nothing. But, Mona, this case is not black and white and you too have a less than an admirable history in some cases. So do I, but then I don't really care. You recognize people's right to call themselves what they want, but in my case you would refer to me as a functional Zionist. That's as far from the truth as if I were to call you a functional anti-Semite. Perhaps farther. Anyway, I'm not about to break the peace, and the ball is in Avenger's hands now. If he lets me know, I'll lift the ban on his own user page. And I'd prefer to the case to be decided by moderator action alone. Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 16:51, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- "you too have a less than an admirable history in some cases. So do I," There is not parity, at all, between, on the one hand, your history here and mine, and on the other, Avenger's. None. Zero. Nada. And you are functionally a Zionist. But I am not functionally an antisemite; your positions make this so. I am pro-Palestinian -- both in form and function. My positions do not render me an antisemite by any reasonable metric.---Mona- (talk) 19:29, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- You say you only want to write articles. That's true enough, but what get's left out is that they should be your articles, as politically loaded as they are. If I am to be referenced to as something I'm not, then you will have to accept what you are. Functional anti-Semite it is. The Pro-Palestinan is just a subset of that. Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 18:35, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again, but do you remember the well-known Zionist agent Rudolf Slánský
? Just saying so doesn't mean it is. Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 21:49, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- You're being illogical. The opposite of Zionist is not antisemite. Your positions on Israel and Zionism render you a functional Zionist. My opposing positions do not render me a functional antisemite. Unless you are arguing that opposing Zionism is per se antisemitic. If that's your position it's so unreasonable I don't care what your view of me is.---Mona- (talk) 23:22, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- I always thought I could think logically, but you never know. So, to enlighten me, does my stance on the question of what should be done with the 8.000.000 or so Israelis within the 1967-borders, render me a Zionist? I simply see a very simple exercise in calculation that was ridiculed at the time, but the question is still valid among many others. Of course you don't care what I think of you, but I probably have a higher opinion than you think. The only thing I cannot stand is your absolute unwillingness to stray from your once plotted course - that is forming an opinion of things are they are. In your autobiography you did mention a few turnabouts, but it seems you're now stagnated. To relieve your spirit, I don't really expect you to hold me in any regard, which is good, because you will have your say about you-know-what. In any case, I will hold the truce until Avenger is discussed, where we will probably exchange harsh words, but that will not be in malice, and I hope you at least believe me, when I say that I just want peace and well written articles in RW. Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 23:51, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- You're being illogical. The opposite of Zionist is not antisemite. Your positions on Israel and Zionism render you a functional Zionist. My opposing positions do not render me a functional antisemite. Unless you are arguing that opposing Zionism is per se antisemitic. If that's your position it's so unreasonable I don't care what your view of me is.---Mona- (talk) 23:22, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again, but do you remember the well-known Zionist agent Rudolf Slánský
- You say you only want to write articles. That's true enough, but what get's left out is that they should be your articles, as politically loaded as they are. If I am to be referenced to as something I'm not, then you will have to accept what you are. Functional anti-Semite it is. The Pro-Palestinan is just a subset of that. Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 18:35, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey, Mona
Hey, Mona. 𐌈FedoraTippingSkeptic𐌈 (talk) 06:37, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, yourself.---Mona- (talk) 14:39, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Could you please explain what you mean by...
..."you have a retarded Reasonableness IQ" [sic!]? I don't quite understand what that is supposed to mean. And if it is indeed related to some political opinion of mine, please take into account that in my humble opinion even horrible political opinions can be held by reasonable, sane and intelligent people. That guy
for example was one thing for certain: Smart. And this man was certainly not dumb either. If intelligence were something that keeps one from having horrible political opinions, the world would be a better place. But maybe your statement is unrelated to politics. If that's the case, please enlighten me. Oh and another thing: The best criterion to discern how smart somebody is, is whether or not they can explain complex things to stupid people. Anyway, I thought I might ask that here, as the coop has been sidetracked too much already. Kind regards. Avengerofthe BoN (talk) 22:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
- Avenger, it's not productive for us to engage. But I'll leave you with a question you shouldn't answer here; it is asked for your own thoughts: In the real world, or at other online venues where you've sought to participate, have you run into people finding you exasperating to the point they write you off? When something like that happens once, it may well be more about the other person than about you. After the second time, you might justifiably begin to worry. If it happens a lot, however, the likelihood that the problem is with you -- in a way you don't see and have no idea how to fix -- is quite high. It has happened to you here a lot. There are professionals who help with issues like that, and everybody need help for something(s)---Mona- (talk) 00:33, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Relevant to your interests....
A new episode of Frontline] that you'll wanna watch... Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 08:41, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks so much. I seldom turn on the TeeVee, which does cause me to miss promos for stuff I would actually want to watch. But that will stream, so I am definitely gonna watch it, likely today. To the extent you share this interest, a British news magazine did an amazing program about how the UK Israel Lobby purchases politicians and intimidates media: Dispatches - inside Britain's Israel Lobby. One of the few serious offerings available on YouTube. (As always, do not read the comments or you'll become a misanthrope.) Thanks again.---Mona- (talk) 18:49, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
I strongly agree
with your recent post in the coop. I look forward to the Targeted Individuals article when more work has been done to it. Your statement "In my strong view, it is necessary -- but not sufficient -- for the wiki not to tolerate disruptive users who drain tons of energy and coop-case time if the wiki is going to draw and retain good editors, and thus thrive." truly shows a thorough understanding of some of the problems that have plagued RW, and a firm opposition to those banes. Your comments on RW sourcing is also on the mark and you even expand on your dedication to changing instead of just discussing problems like poor referencing and low quality writing. 𐌈FedoraTippingSkeptic𐌈 (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Both Rev and I would like to see the TI article become a main-pager. As can be seen at comments pages all over the Internet, if a moderation team permits a few dedicated souls to overtake the comments section with a high volume of tendentious crap -- and not just abuse-- intelligent participants leave and the conversation, or one worth having, dies. ---Mona- (talk) 00:17, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Mona is absolutely right on this. And, to be specific, it IS important that we outweigh the almost naggy tone of proto-psychotic TI's with an elevated level of (editorially sound) snark. Give these people a finger and they take an arm; were they not ill their treatment of the Greenwald (among other) comment fields would be treated as filibustering. It's not done by us (or them) out of spite; it's important that we do not indulge their neuroses in this case. In the end, our snark increases the prospects of their own betterment - to be able to Google a rebuttal that isn't ad hominem, which instead grounds the reader in reality. Also, it's important for significant others of TI's (and their care providers) to be able to Google and find a rebuttal of the TI phenomenin with an ironic dismissal of their fatalist psychotic overdetermination. Everyone benefits from this debunking, and helping people in an academically sound way matters to everyone. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:48, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I can't agree with all of that, Rev. I'm for some snark, yes. But not to the level of treating them as less than human; all humans who are not intentionally malicious merit respect. Moreover, very few mental health professionals would care for an over-abundance of mean-spirited snark. And really, I don't think our snark (or anything else) can dissuade confirmed TIs. That doesn't work with True Believers, ever. Especially with paranoiacs, it just feeds their martyr syndrome. No, I see the value of the article is for curious others who run into these deluded souls and ask "WTF?" We are answering their questions.---Mona- (talk) 00:57, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it may feed their martyr syndrome, many are quite obdurate indeed and deny logic to the point where I feel quite lachrymose. Sometimes it is hard to tell if some do not actually believe what they state and are attempting to be jocular or in fact believe their bizarre and unproven delusions (which if they really do believe, will indubitably opine). 𐌈FedoraTippingSkeptic𐌈 (talk) 01:03, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I can't agree with all of that, Rev. I'm for some snark, yes. But not to the level of treating them as less than human; all humans who are not intentionally malicious merit respect. Moreover, very few mental health professionals would care for an over-abundance of mean-spirited snark. And really, I don't think our snark (or anything else) can dissuade confirmed TIs. That doesn't work with True Believers, ever. Especially with paranoiacs, it just feeds their martyr syndrome. No, I see the value of the article is for curious others who run into these deluded souls and ask "WTF?" We are answering their questions.---Mona- (talk) 00:57, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Mona is absolutely right on this. And, to be specific, it IS important that we outweigh the almost naggy tone of proto-psychotic TI's with an elevated level of (editorially sound) snark. Give these people a finger and they take an arm; were they not ill their treatment of the Greenwald (among other) comment fields would be treated as filibustering. It's not done by us (or them) out of spite; it's important that we do not indulge their neuroses in this case. In the end, our snark increases the prospects of their own betterment - to be able to Google a rebuttal that isn't ad hominem, which instead grounds the reader in reality. Also, it's important for significant others of TI's (and their care providers) to be able to Google and find a rebuttal of the TI phenomenin with an ironic dismissal of their fatalist psychotic overdetermination. Everyone benefits from this debunking, and helping people in an academically sound way matters to everyone. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:48, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppet
Earlier, you blocked an IP address you suspected of being a sockpuppet of AvengeroftheBoN. I strongly suspect http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/192.99.150.7 is also a sockpuppet, either of Avenger or Arisboch, especially seeing as half of their edits are on the Israel-Palestine issue. Also, they direct hatred towards you specifically. This user has also committed vandalism by blanking multiple sections. Also, notice the edit history on the Hyperloop page, which, of the very few edits there are, many were by Arisboch and AvengeroftheBoN. Now look at this edit from the IP I mentioned, which talks about the creator of the Hyperloop. This edit was made days after Avenger's. I believe there is enough evidence this IP is a sockpuppet and that this user should be blocked. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 02:04, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Blanking content in I-P articles and editing public transport related articles. Hmmm... I wonder who that might be?--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 02:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Didn't I already block 192?---Mona- (talk) 04:32, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- forgive my lack of wiki tech knowledge, but are not IP blocks frowned upon? (If that's what it is)AMassiveGay (talk) 23:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- I blocked that number for a day for repeated tedious reverts and then unfunny vandalism of an article. That's common.---Mona- (talk) 23:45, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- forgive my lack of wiki tech knowledge, but are not IP blocks frowned upon? (If that's what it is)AMassiveGay (talk) 23:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Didn't I already block 192?---Mona- (talk) 04:32, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Song contest
It is very odd indeed. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 04:06, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I reacted as if one of my tribe wanted to do a page on American Idol. Gach!---Mona- (talk) 04:09, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yea, but the Euros are above inferior American creations like such. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 04:12, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Really, we've got Idol, The X-Factor and The Voice in Europe too, but Eurovision is really nothing like those. It's more like European nations having a musical stabbing match with political propaganda, celebrations of ethnic identity and LGBT-progressivism mixed in. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 04:37, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- we don't 'have them here', we had them first. AMassiveGay (talk) 22:06, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- I've always thought you were too lazy to get a decent sig- I apologize deeply. Now I realize you are simply using a cultural name, 142.124.55.236 is continental European. Sorry once again, I just always assumed for some reason you were an American or something, or at least not from the mainland. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 04:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Pfft, a cultural name? Is IP culture a thing now? 142.124.55.236 (talk) 04:51, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- A culture of uncertainty and fear, to be sure. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 04:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'm referring to your signature, it's weird and in my language is simply a bunch of random numbers resembling an internet protocol address but now that I understand you're a European I realize it is part of your European culture. What is IP culture? I am going to assume it's Italian-Prussian, two great European countries. You should be proud to be a part of those cultures! As a Brit, somethings about the mainland really interest me. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'm... not sure if you're pulling my leg in an effort of some good-natured fun or to sincerely ridicule continental Europeans for their cultural whathaveyou? >.> 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:07, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- I am not trying to ridicule anyone, sorry if I've made you feel that way. I've known you for quite some time now, and even voted for you so I have no grudges. I'm simply not as familiar with European culture (I barely consider myself European) as I'd like to be. Perhaps you're Polish, not Prussian? We certainly have a lot of those here in the UK, they're pretty cool people. In fact I don't know why so many people are against Eastern Europeans, every culture has it's good and bad sides. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 05:12, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- My sig is meant to resemble an internet protocol address, or IP for short. There, I said it. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:27, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- Of course it is man, that's painstakingly obvious. Couldn't you tell I was having a bit of a laugh? TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 05:29, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, clearly. Just wasn't sure how else to respond. >.> 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:32, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- Ha, alright. I'm off to bed now, have a good one. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 05:36, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, goodnight then. Have a good one too. ;) 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:42, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- That was quite a trippy little exchange.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 17:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, goodnight then. Have a good one too. ;) 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:42, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- Ha, alright. I'm off to bed now, have a good one. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 05:36, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, clearly. Just wasn't sure how else to respond. >.> 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:32, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- Of course it is man, that's painstakingly obvious. Couldn't you tell I was having a bit of a laugh? TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 05:29, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- My sig is meant to resemble an internet protocol address, or IP for short. There, I said it. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:27, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- I am not trying to ridicule anyone, sorry if I've made you feel that way. I've known you for quite some time now, and even voted for you so I have no grudges. I'm simply not as familiar with European culture (I barely consider myself European) as I'd like to be. Perhaps you're Polish, not Prussian? We certainly have a lot of those here in the UK, they're pretty cool people. In fact I don't know why so many people are against Eastern Europeans, every culture has it's good and bad sides. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 05:12, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'm... not sure if you're pulling my leg in an effort of some good-natured fun or to sincerely ridicule continental Europeans for their cultural whathaveyou? >.> 142.124.55.236 (talk) 05:07, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- I'm referring to your signature, it's weird and in my language is simply a bunch of random numbers resembling an internet protocol address but now that I understand you're a European I realize it is part of your European culture. What is IP culture? I am going to assume it's Italian-Prussian, two great European countries. You should be proud to be a part of those cultures! As a Brit, somethings about the mainland really interest me. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- A culture of uncertainty and fear, to be sure. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 04:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Pfft, a cultural name? Is IP culture a thing now? 142.124.55.236 (talk) 04:51, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- Really, we've got Idol, The X-Factor and The Voice in Europe too, but Eurovision is really nothing like those. It's more like European nations having a musical stabbing match with political propaganda, celebrations of ethnic identity and LGBT-progressivism mixed in. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 04:37, 12 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- Yea, but the Euros are above inferior American creations like such. TheAmazingSkeptic (talk) 04:12, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm gone for a long time for various reasons
As the title says, obviously. But as I looked at what I'm supposed to read this semester, it occurred to me, that I could easily write a couple of essays on such arcane topics as rímur
, eddic poetry
, dróttkvætt poetry
and so on. There are thousands of pages in the course History of Icelandic Literature until 1900. I probably won't make the effort, but I consider you duty-bound to read them, should they materialize. :-) To do the rímur justice, 50 pages or so are needed, and you can't write about them or any Icelandic poetry without delving heavily into metrics and alliteration and all that stuff. You might enjoy something new. :-) Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 18:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
BONs
Can make articles, too... oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 23:15, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Why do you defend the Zionists?
Don't you want this wiki to be free of their Zionist trolling? Do we really have to wait until the Zionists drop bombs on innocent children in Gaza again? I say let this wiki get rid of Zionist trolls as long as we still have the time! Don't let this brave valid wiki be taken over by Zionist trolls who slander the glorious Palestinian resistance against Zionist occupation and genocide! Not an anti-Semite (talk) 22:44, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Whose sock are you? Typhoon (talk) 22:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yup, somebody's sock.---Mona- (talk) 22:52, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- I am just concerned about the Zionists murdering Palestinians! Do you not care about innocent Palestinian babies torn to shreds by barrel bombs from the Zionists? Iam not an anti-Semite! Why are all critics of Zionism always accused of anti-Semitism? Not an anti-Semite (talk) 23:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yup, somebody's sock.---Mona- (talk) 22:52, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
"I didn't make it "infinite" I had it a month."
(Protection log); 23:43 . . -Mona- (Talk | contribs | block) changed protection level for "RationalWiki:Chicken coop" [edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (expires 22:43, 13 February 2016 (UTC)) (David Gerard I think tried to get this accomplished. Right thing to do)
You did set it infinite. Typhoon (talk) 23:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Seems the move=sysop was the one set to a month. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 23:07, 13 January 42016 AQD (UTC)
- (ec)Geez, I seem to really suck at that. I KNOW I selected 1 month. I screw up up Coop page protection all the time. I think I also misread the log, cuz I checked and would swear I had set of for 1 month. And I never intended to protect at sysop level. This is scary.---Mona- (talk) 23:08, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Esperanto
If I remember correctly you mentioned somewhere you had an interest in Esperanto. This made me laugh :-)
USEFUL PHRASES IN ESPERANTO, #1.
Ĉu vi parolas angle?
- Do you speak English?
Mi ne komprenas.
- I don't understand.
Vi estas la sola esperantisto kiun mi renkontas.
- You're the only Esperanto speaker I've met.
La ĉeko estas enpoŝtigita.
- The check is in the mail.
Oni ne povas, ĝin netrovi.
- You can't miss it.
Mi nur rigardadas.
- I'm just looking around.
Nu, ŝajnis bona ideo.
- Well, it seemed like a good idea.
Carpetsmoker (talk) 15:59, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- They need one for wimmins in the bar: "Get away from me you slug."---Mona- (talk) 18:34, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Archiving
Is done automatically again every day. No need to do it manually. See: MummificationBot. Carpetsmoker (talk) 18:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Oh! Didn't the Saloon convo seem to be getting awfully lengthy? It's annoying to navigate when it gets so long. How are the parameters set in the bot?---Mona- (talk) 18:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- It gets archived after no one replied to a section for five days. Carpetsmoker (talk) 18:51, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, ok. Well, I'll leave it then to my tech betters. However, I'd make it four days.---Mona- (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Well, it has little to do with tech skills ;-) I don't think anyone will object if you manually archive one (or a few) particularly long section(s), but you archived one section (the navbar one) I explicitly marked as "sticky" as the topic is still under discussion ... This is chiefly why I reverted it.
- As for the length, It was three days when I enabled the bot, but lengthened that to five as it seemed very short to me. Not sure if that was the setting that was being used before, or if someone set it that short because they wanted to test if the bot working. Carpetsmoker (talk) 19:04, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I was under the impression it's a faux pas to archive out of the order of the chronology? That you can't, say, take the first three, skip tow, and continue with another four? And sorry about the sticky -- I didn't notice it. BTW, do you like having more than one nav bar on a page? I think it's horrible looking and would do it only in a few circumstances, e.g., I can see that PZ Myers "needs" both the evolution and atheism nav bars, but most often more than one is unsightly.---Mona- (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- To the best of my knowledge, there is no such etiquette rule. If there is one, no one ever told me :-)
- As for the navs, the smaller navs should fix that. Carpetsmoker (talk) 20:02, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I was under the impression it's a faux pas to archive out of the order of the chronology? That you can't, say, take the first three, skip tow, and continue with another four? And sorry about the sticky -- I didn't notice it. BTW, do you like having more than one nav bar on a page? I think it's horrible looking and would do it only in a few circumstances, e.g., I can see that PZ Myers "needs" both the evolution and atheism nav bars, but most often more than one is unsightly.---Mona- (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, ok. Well, I'll leave it then to my tech betters. However, I'd make it four days.---Mona- (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- It gets archived after no one replied to a section for five days. Carpetsmoker (talk) 18:51, 18 January 2016 (UTC)