Conservapedia talk:TK
I think i found a Profile of TK's[edit]
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Tonkey Kong country[edit]
TK, Tonkey Kong is here!DSFARGEG 12:01, 18 December 2008 (EST)
The type[edit]
I have known people like TK in the past. They have no ability whatsoever to be creative on their own merit and are insanely jealous of those who are. They consequently resort to demolishing the creations of others. It is the true action of a vandal.
Even such a project as Conservapedia might have amounted to something (!) but TK, aided and abetted by sycophants and toadies, has managed to drive it into the ground. Schlafly might, with a good team, have made what he set out to 18 months ago: a moderately right wing, moderately religious, homeschoolers' encyclopaedia. From what I have seen TK has been the prime mover behind the destruction of this goal. Without him I am sure that Schlafly would not have become so extreme and the policies of the site wouldn't have been distorted as they are today. He (TK) spends time, on the secure email connection I am sure he has with Schlafly, dripping poison into his ear and justifying his on-site actions as defending the master's vision.
Conservative is out to build his own little niche on the net (Ha! Some hope), Crocoite is purely there as a representative of his own religious views as is PJR (how much longer he'll stay is a matter of conjecture), Karajou is following the orders of the Officer (Schlafly) and Ed Poor is just a dimwit. No other admin has any power or influence compared with this inner group (cross PJR off that list already). TK is solely out for one end: the destruction of whatever could have been.
- (Wormtongue comes to mind but the only allegiance TK has is not to Mordor but to his own jealousy.)
</rant> Toast 02:35, 9 January 2009 (EST)
CUR...[edit]
...why did you revert without discussion? TheoryOfPractice 11:17, 18 January 2009 (EST)
- What? --<choose>
<option>Input The ResistorOutput</option> <option>CoyoteOver 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 22:04, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
TO TK[edit]
If you are reading this, know that I am your biggest fan. I really appreciate the hard work you are putting into conservapedia. No-one could do it any better than you have done so far. DSFARGEG 14:00, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
Do. Not. Understand.[edit]
I've only just started editing here, so apologies if this is the wrong place for this sort of thing, but this TK chap is confusing the hell out of me (although fascinating, in a car-crash sort of way). I've see screencaps of IM exchanges where he seems to be collaborating with respected RW editors on attacking CP; I've seen the evidence of his reign of terror at CP - WTF is this guy's motivation? Is he the ultimate deep-cover liberal, a Bugler on steroids? Is he just the enormous arse that a cursory inspection suggests? There's enough there for a whole conference of psychologists Silvermute 04:21, 4 April 2009 (EDT)
- T·K
Pronounciation: Tee Kay
Function: n
Etymology: Short for teacake
1 Arsehole who tears shreds out of any project he's affiliated with.
2 A truly gifted individual with prodigious skill when it comes to using whois.
Bottom line: Either a painfully obvious yet brilliantly efficient parodist, or just an arsehole. Given that he's employed his silly tactics on at least three sites (CP, RW and HoN) I suspect the latter. -RedbackG'day 04:52, 4 April 2009 (EDT)- Yeah, I think you're probably right. Which is a shame. Having just read the latest WIGO stuff about teh Assfly's refusal to accept that he's wrong re his history "lectures" (those poor kids...), I'd love to see his response when the clock strikes midnight and TK removes his mask... Silvermute 05:17, 4 April 2009 (EDT)
Hot or Not[edit]
It's always been mentioned that TK caused a huge amount of drama at hotornot.com, but I've never seen a writeup of the goings on from that site. Do we have any sort of unofficial history or better yet any eyewitness accounts that can be added to the article? Stile4aly 17:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Had a long discussion with a former HnN admin a while back, who was almost going to provide info, but begged off when other former admins expressed fear at TK's likely harassment of them all over again. Whatever happened, it sounded very unsavoury. Hopefully one day the truth will out. --PsyGremlinSnakk! 08:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
One of my friends was also involved with Hot or Not, and has a rather large Adobe file of what went on at their forum, which he asked me for a second opinion on. From what I recall, "Beth" was not an innocent person in the events. She was in fact highly manipulative and abusive herself. In What jokingly became known as "The Great Boardwar", she had started demanding people do what she told them, and when others resisted she began attempting to bully them.
I will see if he still has that Adobe file, or if I can find it somewhere online. It was insane, like South Park meets Hells Angels.
97.107.46.102 (talk) 00:12, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
My Chat With TK![edit]
This happened after getting banned...AOL Instant Message negotiations to get me re-instated...continuous slacking off, parody, "Talk, Talk, Talk", and finally getting banned over a loaded debate question.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TK'S FAREWELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanted to call your attention to our Conservapedia Commandments and associated Guidelines.
You have been in violation of them several times. I have tried to communicate with you via your talk page, and have never received a response.
Accordingly, since you have long ago proved yourself to not be interested in actually assisting CP in its conservative and Christian encyclopedia project, but rather there to contest our POV, refute it, insert bad parody or over-the-top supposedly conservative comments, that is unacceptable. We have an absolute right of free association. We are not compelled by law or morality to entertain viewpoints contrary to our own, nor do we wish to provide a platform to those who disagree without some substantive contributions in content to those areas not subject to idealogical dispute. Your only interest, it is clear, is constant talk, talk, talk.
Accordingly I have removed you as a user.
Godspeed to you.
--TK
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MY REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Parody? Such as this:
"Well, that's gratitude for you! Barack has personally saved the auto industry, guaranteeing all the new car warranties, saved the banks and investment firms, personally assuming the hundreds of thousands of bad mortgages and giving houses to those who can no longer afford to make the payments on them! And after all that, Barack is going to give each of us health insurance and save the environment from global warming. Still that isn't enough for you! What more must he do to prove he cares? --ṬK/Admin/Talk 18:27, 25 June 2009 (EDT)"
I don't understand that accusation at all, since parody seems to be A-OK in your book.
I suppose I could have taken the easy route and logged 100 bad, stubby edits (AKA: "Good edits, on par with admins!") to keep my talk/edit ratio peachy-keen, but if the idea is that users are constantly editing just to keep from getting banned, then WHAT IS THE POINT? No wonder CP seems to be lorded over by 4 or 5 of you guys! Everyone else gave up when they realized they couldn't have a decent discussion about the future direction of an articles' development without staccato, lazy edits in between to keep the bullies appeased?
Another thing - shouldn't you value having your beliefs challenged, hammered-out, examined, etc? Are you only a Conservative as long as it's easy, as long as you're not being questioned? That is cowardly and weak beyond words.
By the way, I would like you to clarify the phrase "over-the-top". What is this "top" that you speak of? I'll grant you that there's a certain point where something is no longer a conservative viewpoint. But you have got to be kidding me if you think ANYTHING I said is beyond the Conservapedian pale. You guys look down and see "the top". The amount of hate-talk that goes on there proves that any "Christians" on CP are just pimple-assed angry dudes who happen to go to Church. Quote Jesus for me, go ahead, do it.
While you're at it, send me the time-stamped edits you made to my talk page. I do not recall getting them, and doubt the supposed attempts to contact me were ever made.
See you guys later!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Though I have many e-mails I could share...)
98.239.166.251 20:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Why don't you start an account and post your emails with TurdKrap. Sunshine. Disinfectant. Etc. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 20:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Have we ever seen a picture of TK?[edit]
Because this guy just SCREAMS of Terry Koeckritz. Maybe trolling CP isn't enough for him so he's trying his hand of shit-stirring at dating sites? JazzMan 05:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Looks a bit like Ted Haggard. No one has ever seen a picture of him or at least one that he let us. He used to troll HotOrNot.com, he was an admin there once. Is that in the article? - π 05:13, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- It's not, though it's mentioned higher on the talk page. He's also claimed to me privately that he used to be an admin on myspace, in charge of keeping out the pedos. Probably not true, but the fact that he claims these things gives evidence to the theory that he cheats on Conservapedia with other websites. JazzMan 05:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- The MySpace is him bigging himself up again, like working in the White House or sitting next to Lucille Ball on a plane or what ever the story was. He also goes to the UK twice a month. - π 05:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- It's not, though it's mentioned higher on the talk page. He's also claimed to me privately that he used to be an admin on myspace, in charge of keeping out the pedos. Probably not true, but the fact that he claims these things gives evidence to the theory that he cheats on Conservapedia with other websites. JazzMan 05:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
The style is familiar, but I think it's a troll. ħuman 05:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sure it's a troll; I just saw it and immediately had acid flashbacks of convos with TK. JazzMan 05:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Is TK a deep cover liberal or not?[edit]
Okay, I'm new to RW, but I've always loved investigating the hilarious actions of CP sysops for awhile now. I've figured out most of the sysops there on my own, but TK is something of an enigma to me. His actions are so ridiculous and over the top that I can't fathom him being serious. He seems outright determined to run CP into the ground but at the same time seems to genuinely believe in his actions.
Can someone please explain what is going on with this guy? Moghopper (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- He's not a deep cover liberal to any of our knowledge - he is supposedly conservative and a Christian, though in the real world I understand he claims to be a far more tolerant and generally better person than his on-wiki actions. What everyone here agrees on - and I mean practically everyone - is that he's a liar who is exploiting Andy's idiocy for a bit of "lulz." SJ Debaser 17:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- TK is
an enigma wrapped up in a mysterya sociopathic loony, posing as a conservative as part of his current scheme. He gets his rocks off by joining online communities and attempting to destroy them from within. Also by being caged and given forced enemas it would appear. --PsygremlinTala! 18:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)- EC) He just enjoys spoiling other people's work. He can't create anything himself, so that's the only way he can "make his mark". yummy & honey(or marmalade) 18:05, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- If that is the case, then he must have a massive inferiority complex to be so down right obsessive about destroying CP Moghopper (talk) 19:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Narr! He's just inferior - no complex. yummy & honey(or marmalade) 19:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Holy shit, Psy... That little tidbit, it's... MINDBOGGLING. I feel violated and dirty. I just threw up in my mouth a little, too. Thanks a whole fuckin' bunch. The Foxhole Atheist (talk) 19:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Narr! He's just inferior - no complex. yummy & honey(or marmalade) 19:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- If that is the case, then he must have a massive inferiority complex to be so down right obsessive about destroying CP Moghopper (talk) 19:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- EC) He just enjoys spoiling other people's work. He can't create anything himself, so that's the only way he can "make his mark". yummy & honey(or marmalade) 18:05, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- TK is
TK blocked me...[edit]
TK is the one who blocked me from Conservapedia for my "Liberal bias". (I love how they call themselves the "Trustworthy Wiki" when they are clearly not. That's like if Fox said they were fair and balanc--oh, wait...) This is just my message to the many contributors to this page: Job well done. Very well done.— Unsigned, by: Tieren / talk / contribs
TK drops IP blocks on people who show a naked IP address on RW[edit]
I make an unlogged-in comment on the WIGO talk April 26th; later that same April 26th, /16 range IP block applied (Commentary: "Plugging a vandal loophole.") What a sad and pathetic little man... Most ironically, of course, is that I've never registered on CP and have no intention of doing so. Paranoia at its finest.— Unsigned, by: 68.147.139.21 / talk / contribs
- This we actually knew. (I am a person not a template) 07:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- It is not in the article, though. I checked. :p — Unsigned, by: 68.147.139.21 / talk / contribs
- He hasn't found my sock yet. Acei9 08:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- RationalWiki is occasionally monitored by other sites, especially those who oppose some of our goals, and often your IP address will be blocked from editing at those sites if it appears here. (I am a person not a template) 08:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't that read "is monitored obsessively by one specific site, with a huge persecution complex and siege mentality"? --PsyGremlinPrata! 08:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ah. Hadn't seen that page yet. Thanks for the link. — Unsigned, by: 68.147.139.21 / talk / contribs
- RationalWiki is occasionally monitored by other sites, especially those who oppose some of our goals, and often your IP address will be blocked from editing at those sites if it appears here. (I am a person not a template) 08:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- He hasn't found my sock yet. Acei9 08:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- It is not in the article, though. I checked. :p — Unsigned, by: 68.147.139.21 / talk / contribs
Minimise non-American Contributions[edit]
Yeah it seems that he is very interested in limiting the contributions of non Americans.
I have been blocked numerous times for numerous reasonsd, the first time it was an IP range block that took out my whole town! And my town is a University town at one of the most conservative Universities in England!
The last time, I took pity on the kids who have to learn from this bullshit, particularly about mathematics, which is completely apoliticial, and I decided to add a few sections and correct a few errors on their maths pages. I even took the trouble to use american spelling (math instead of maths etc.) but I got blocked after my first edit for "Deliberate insertion of false information; lying" !!— Unsigned, by: 94.193.216.167 / talk / contribs
- I think you've got it all wrong. Conservapedia isn't an encyclopedia. Nobody's there learning anything. Aside from things like you mentioned (math), which are generally going to be of poor quality and little use to actual students, the near entirety of Conservapedia has nothing to do with children or learning at all. It's a religio-political tract about proselytizing Andy Schlafly's perverse brand of xenophobia and narrow-mindedness. Anything you see that makes you scratch your head and wonder if those people are well is causing what I hope to be a narrow minority of American hillbillies, rednecks, and others of poor education and moral fiber to pump their chests and howl in agreement. But you're making a mistake if you think TK has anything to do with Conservapedia ideology. People like TK are a blight on the Internet; griefers and troublemakers who go from place to place getting off on making trouble and attracting negative attention. Not much he says on CP is genuine or creditable - so it's not fair to lump his heavy-handedness in with the palpably different bigotry and hatefulness espoused by Andy's other minions. It's too bad TK caused you some aggravation. At least he didn't threaten to sue you or turn you over to your ethics board and licensing authority. When it comes to range blocking universities and towns, just let him have at it. He's a coward who thrives on pretending he's anonymous and therefore untouchable. But there are a few of us itching to make him very sorely regret fucking around with people's personal lives. I think he seems to have gotten the idea and layed off the stalking and threats. But when it comes to "limiting the contributions of non Americans," who fucking cares? It's probably better that TK did rangeblock your university. You don't want some impressionable 17 year old wandering into that sewer and being the 1 of out thousands who manages to have an account last longer than a day, only to embrace Andy Schlafly's "conservative" ideology. There is literally nothing of value to be gained by contributing there that you can't get from standing on the other side of the cage bars. Nutty Roux (talk) 16:33, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
You sure we want this? Please for to comment[edit]
I commented out this: ===Fair and honest things done by TK=== {{crickets}}
While true it seems a bit (too?) snarky. C®ackeЯ
- It's been there for ages, so it's hardly copying Ken. ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 20:46, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Postmortem posts[edit]
Logging in simply to say, though I had fun and laughs being a puppet master for many of your trolling episodes here and on CP, I never wished you anything worse than perhaps removal of your powers at CP. Even then, you wouldn't have been as much fun. I can't say goodbye now that you have passed, but at least I can say you didn't deserve an early trip off this mortal coil. A nod of the head to the fun you provided, Sir, from this former RWian. --Irrational Atheist (talk) 07:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Death[edit]
Another reference for death is here. 72.45.254.78 (talk)
- This like other references we have seen are generated from the SSDI report. - π 22:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's nonetheless helpful. Thanks BON. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 23:12, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
He actually died? Holy shit, I kind of feel bad now... Web (talk) 06:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Behavior on Wikipedia and Conservaleaks[edit]
The Behavior on Wikipedia subsection in not supported by Conservaleaks.
- Rob Smith, Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:05 PM:
- That's probably all he came here to do, since User:Hipocrite is already drafting an arbcom complaint against me.
meaning User:Hipocrite already began drafting Arbcom complaint against me on other issues before Terry Koeckritz's name was ever mentioned in WP.
- TK, Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:41 PM:
- Please concern yourself, first and foremost Rob, with the actions of Sid on the CP page. I asked what could be done about this….but no answer.
- Rob Smith, Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:08 AM:
- He's citing something in the WP:RS (LA Times) which is can'[t be changed. Your problem is just like Lipson's, Lipson can't get the word "vandalism" ever removed from his name in the WP:RS. That's what the big dustup was over, I argued no names should be used, not Bria, Lipson, or anyone. I lost, for now. ...But to get your real life name off talk, you can't.
- Rob Smith, Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:22 AM:
- Ok, here's a plan. WP search doesn't bring back the talk:CP for Koeckritz which they got a switch shut off somewhere after I raised the issue of privacy -- meaning unlike Hipocrite's claim the issue is resolved, it's not. So, you can contact an Admin somehow quietly...
- TK, Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:15 AM:
- STOP.
- Please read the L.A. Times article carefully. It in no way says “Terry Koeckritz” is CP Administrator “TK”. Watch the periods and commas, Rob….and Tasha isn’t an Admin on CP, either. Never was.
- Rob Smith, Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:07 AM:
- No, there are potentially big time violations on Sids part, and it's been caught already. Cool down, wait for a private response. Get copies of emails or whatever (no more than two or three) and show them Sid is very much aware of your desire for privacy. ...
So, unlike the commie agitprop narrative here and elsewhere, I advised TK to do the exact opposite of how he handled his desire for privacy, and the original dispute had nothing to do with TK's real life identity anywhere, until TK reacted Sid's posting in WP. nobsdon't bother me 23:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Your "reds under the bed" thing is fucking fascinating. Something is wrong/I don't like it = Commie! Ace of Spades 23:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I can't find that in conservaleaks, could you post a link please Rob? (Or is this from some super-super secret emails between you and Terry?) DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 23:48, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- User:Emerson White. nobsdon't bother me 23:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Rob. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 00:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- But I don't understand your point; nowhere in the subsection does it cite conservaleaks in order to support Terry's behaviour. If you are saying that this quote (or conservaleaks in general) disproves the subsection, then come out and say it, and then we will shout 'bollocks' at you. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 00:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- User:Emerson White. nobsdon't bother me 23:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm saying the article claims TK & I worked in conjunction in the Spring of 2010 in WP, when in fact TK totally interfered and screwed up my efforts to improve WP's CP related entries. TK totally ignored my advice. He was a hinderance, not a help, and any notion I was acting at his behest is completely off base. This email shows (1) TK totally ignored advice I gave him; (2) my intentions were focused on RW editors COI & OWN violations.
- Rob Smith, Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:22 AM:
- Ok, here's a plan. WP search doesn't bring back the talk:CP for Koeckritz which they got a switch shut off somewhere after I raised the issue of privacy -- meaning unlike Hipocrite's claim the issue is resolved, it's not. So, you can contact an Admin somehow quietly, Papa November or BFizz, they're the best ones. Just NOT Hipocrite. Explain you would like your name removed from Sid's posting. Tell them you've known Sid along time, have discussed RW & CP business with him, and you honestly think Sid did this to hurt you. Ask the neutral Admin to be fair. Don't make threats or anything. Maybe mention Hipocrite closed the privacy concern off as resolved and you felt the specific issue was never even discussed yet. Add that in important issues like this, just like on the Talk:Rationalwiki page RW editors, many with a COI just constantly seem to railroad through consensus with sockpuppets and meatpuppets, and you think this is unfair. Note this seems to be the case for several years now. That Rationalwiki editors have exerted WP:OWN over all Conserveapedia related articles. nobsdon't bother me 00:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- God you act like a fuckin' retarded person. Jesus fuck man. Oh and just to clarify, by "all Conserveapedia related articles" you mean the WP Conservapedia article, right? User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 00:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- There has been an Andrew Schlafly entry in the past, it may be merged now. nobsdon't bother me 00:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- It was created after you and TK started your little project together and I don't see any familiar names exercising any "control" over it. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 00:31, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- Erm, no Rob. Your emails don't show that you and Terry didn't work together; they show that you worked together very badly. There is a crucial difference. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 00:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- No, I can't stop TK from editing WP. Everything was going fine till TK began editing WP, then the focus got off RW founders & my claims about thier behvior, and onto TK. It all went to hell after that. nobsdon't bother me 00:36, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- Erm, no Rob. Your emails don't show that you and Terry didn't work together; they show that you worked together very badly. There is a crucial difference. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 00:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- It was created after you and TK started your little project together and I don't see any familiar names exercising any "control" over it. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 00:31, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- There has been an Andrew Schlafly entry in the past, it may be merged now. nobsdon't bother me 00:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- God you act like a fuckin' retarded person. Jesus fuck man. Oh and just to clarify, by "all Conserveapedia related articles" you mean the WP Conservapedia article, right? User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 00:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Forum:Conservaleaks_III#April_2010_-_Rob_and_TK_on_Wikipedia[edit]
And thanks to Tmt & Sids comments, the thread they cite reinforces the contention TK & I were not acting together for whatever nefarious purposes RW editors imagine. See for example,
- TK, Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:03 PM:
- I would like to see this whole matter move to the bigger picture, Rob, if possible....
- Rob Smith, Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:54 AM:
- I'm going to reveal part of my hand right now, so you all are sworn to secrecy....[1]
Things were going well until TK got active in WP and fucked it up. I gave TK some advice how to handle the problem he created for himself, which everyone can see, he ignored.
This section needs some overhaul. nobsdon't bother me 05:06, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Supporting evidence[edit]
From WP User:BFizz talk page,
- I was acting to prevent primarily the privacy rights of Rationalwiki editors from being cited as known malicious cybervandals by a WP:RS.... nobs (talk) 12:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Corroborated by Rob Smith to ZG Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM, a copy of an email to a WP bureaucrat available at CL.
Users whose privacy interests are of concern:
User:Tmtloulouse who edits under his own name
User:PalMD who edits under his own name
IOW, I was acting to protect the privacy rights of RW & WP editors from being cited as malicious cybervandals by a reputable and mainstream source. I should be thanked, not vilified.
Kels discription of standing on chairs nails it, but the myth got started there TK & I were doing, whatever. Conservaleaks shows TK not only fucked himself up, he fucked up what I was trying to do - build a case Lipson was not a notable expert and wrest control of the CP entry away from RW editors. You know, you were there. I had you & Trent on the ropes up til the time TK got involved. It went to hell after that. nobsdon't bother me 04:46, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Except you didn't, not at all, not even in delusional fantasy land. You were completely marginalized by your own actions way before TK showed up. TK is dead now. Why don't you try again if your so sure you had us. Tmtoulouse (talk) 04:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- TK ain't around to interfere, but I didn't come here to be confrontational.
- Date of original email to WP bureaucrat: Apr 12, 2010 (I may have forwarded a copy to the SDG)
- TK ain't around to interfere, but I didn't come here to be confrontational.
The reliable source states the founding editors by thier own admission, including XXXXXX, have engaged in cybervandalism directed at Conservapedia. There is no NPOV language about Conservapedia's efforts to fend off "malicious editing" from "Rationalwiki editors and elsewhere."... It has already been established by consensus Stephanie Simon erred in reporting who founded Rationalwiki. And this misinformation in a WP:RS could only have come from Rationalwiki editors she interviewed.
- User:Tmtoulouse receives Conflict of interst warning: Apr 13, 2010.
As a creator of RationalWiki --as stated in your user page-- you should restrain yourself from editing Conservapedia, per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Read these behavioral guidelines, if you have not. Or re-read them; it's never redundant. I will keep an eye on you.
nobsdon't bother me 05:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- I got a warning from some random user with troll like behavior in the past. Would you pay a parking ticket given to you by the the mumbling drunk peeing on your bumper? Tmtoulouse (talk) 05:19, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well that same drunk has been active here lately. He's still got an eye on you. nobsdon't bother me 05:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- The fuck? The "warning" came from wp:User:Boutros Boutros Boutros. Tmtoulouse (talk) 05:45, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Look, just fix the bullshit in this article that says (a) I was working with TK or whatever, and (b) I wsa taking orders or under control of TK or whatever. You know it's bullshit cause you read Conservaleaks. Then we can all save ourselves any further bullshit. nobsdon't bother me 05:57, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- The fuck? The "warning" came from wp:User:Boutros Boutros Boutros. Tmtoulouse (talk) 05:45, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well that same drunk has been active here lately. He's still got an eye on you. nobsdon't bother me 05:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- I got a warning from some random user with troll like behavior in the past. Would you pay a parking ticket given to you by the the mumbling drunk peeing on your bumper? Tmtoulouse (talk) 05:19, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Same pattern of behaviour[edit]
With User:RobSmith/With both barrels..., notice the same pattern of bahviour that goes back to when CP sysops first discovered RW 1.0 (Karajou to SDG, Thread discussion "I won't ban anybody yet"); me, Karajou, and Ed Poor all recommended keeping quiet and developing Counterintelligence. TK ignored us, started shouting, and began mass blocking of users (the Night of the Blunt Knives). TK, in a sense, put Rationalwiki on the map. nobsdon't bother me 13:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Updating[edit]
The page needs updating; TK returned to Conservapedia in November 2008 with a vengeance and continues (sic) as active as he ever was..." Unlocking it probably won't help, as RW probably is not interested in a first person, eyewitness, adversarial account from another CP insider. nobsdon't bother me 21:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Add what you like Rob, if you can back it up then we'll keep it, if not then it will be removed. Haven't you worked out how a wiki works yet?--DamoHi 21:59, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- He can't. We locked this to the sysop level, for some reason or another, after TK died. And Rob is no longer a sysop. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 22:02, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have unlocked it, and I think it should remain so. If we don't want to give sysop rights to Rob (and we shouldn't) then we should also not lock an article he wishes to edit. There is nothing someone can do on a wiki that cannot be undone with a click of a button. In any case I have never seen Rob actually vandalising RW and I hope and expect that to continue. --DamoHi 22:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- 12 bytes of revisions from Rob on such an important subject. I'm disappointed. Nutty Roux (talk) 06:02, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have unlocked it, and I think it should remain so. If we don't want to give sysop rights to Rob (and we shouldn't) then we should also not lock an article he wishes to edit. There is nothing someone can do on a wiki that cannot be undone with a click of a button. In any case I have never seen Rob actually vandalising RW and I hope and expect that to continue. --DamoHi 22:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- He can't. We locked this to the sysop level, for some reason or another, after TK died. And Rob is no longer a sysop. The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 22:02, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
RationalWikian logged in as TK[edit]
This image, uploaded to RationalWiki, shows someone logged in a TK
I came across this image on RationalWiki, uploaded by User:Dubya08, that shows him logged in as TK!!!!!!! So he is the one behind TK!--Test1 (talk) 20:35, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- nope.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 20:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Does look weird, though? By the way, we also have a Bias in Wikipedia but no Bias in RationalWiki... Carpetsmoker (talk) 20:42, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Anybody can edit a image to display a username --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 20:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- You failed so badly though... Look closely. WalkerWalkerWalker 20:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- I know where I messed up, but the point makes it across either way and thus I didn't care to fix it. Figure out the right spacing for the name, the right text and fcheck the logcheck the logont size and get the right color and suddenly i can be any of you, this is no different. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 20:57, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Eh, if you have to figure all that out first, I'd say it's easier to create a duplicate account with a Greek kappa instead of a K (for example). 142.124.55.236 (talk) 21:03, 12 November 42015 AQD (UTC)
- (ec) Of course people can edit screenshots, but it still looks weird, and my comment was in no way an endorsement of the OP's comment. The fact that "my talk" is a redlink is probably a give giveaway that the image was edited. Also, to be honest, I wouldn't put it past RW anno 2007 to gain access to TK's account... Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Wasn't Greek... http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=TΚ&group=&limit=500 WalkerWalkerWalker 21:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- They could've used Greek tau too. Though apparently they didn't. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 21:18, 12 November 42015 AQD (UTC)
- @CarpetSmoker We don't have a Bias in RationalWiki because there ain't no bias in RationalWiki! Now let's never speak of this again! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Well, if it were edited, the metadata of the photo would be of the the photo editor, not the computer itself. Unfortunatly, this file does not have any metadata, so there is no way to tell. The next way to go about it is the talk page. If we look at TK's talk page on Conservapedia was created on Febuary 28, 2011 by User:Conservative. However, this page may have been created before then but later deleted. You could check the log, and you would see the page did exist starting March 23, 2007, but was deleted on November 13, 2007 and by 2008 you could see that the page was recreated. However, the image was uploaded to RationalWiki on June 28, 2007. So weather or not this image is real is still undefined.--Test1 (talk) 10:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Given the user was only active for one day, it's pretty obvious that Dubya08 was another sock of TK. PsyGremlinTala! 11:24, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Well, if it were edited, the metadata of the photo would be of the the photo editor, not the computer itself. Unfortunatly, this file does not have any metadata, so there is no way to tell. The next way to go about it is the talk page. If we look at TK's talk page on Conservapedia was created on Febuary 28, 2011 by User:Conservative. However, this page may have been created before then but later deleted. You could check the log, and you would see the page did exist starting March 23, 2007, but was deleted on November 13, 2007 and by 2008 you could see that the page was recreated. However, the image was uploaded to RationalWiki on June 28, 2007. So weather or not this image is real is still undefined.--Test1 (talk) 10:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- @CarpetSmoker We don't have a Bias in RationalWiki because there ain't no bias in RationalWiki! Now let's never speak of this again! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- They could've used Greek tau too. Though apparently they didn't. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 21:18, 12 November 42015 AQD (UTC)
- Wasn't Greek... http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=TΚ&group=&limit=500 WalkerWalkerWalker 21:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- I know where I messed up, but the point makes it across either way and thus I didn't care to fix it. Figure out the right spacing for the name, the right text and fcheck the logcheck the logont size and get the right color and suddenly i can be any of you, this is no different. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 20:57, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- You failed so badly though... Look closely. WalkerWalkerWalker 20:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Anybody can edit a image to display a username --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 20:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Does look weird, though? By the way, we also have a Bias in Wikipedia but no Bias in RationalWiki... Carpetsmoker (talk) 20:42, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Run, liberals, Run[edit]
wow that was really TK's last edit? nobsMr. Trump, tear down this wall... 18:36, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
If his family complains[edit]
WE should remove his real name ASAP. ClickerClock (talk) 08:06, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Damn[edit]
It's been nearly a decade since TK's untimely death. Wow. — Oxyaena Harass 09:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
RIP[edit]
Never knew this dude but he is apparently relevant. Very awesome legacy he left here... — Dysk (contribs) 11:51, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Tk[edit]
En primer lugar, unas Buenas Noches o Tardes a ustedes. Me enteré que existía un tal tk y que lamentablemente hay unos links caídos en las referencias. Por lo que me quiero enterar (de manera más detallada) de todo lo que pasó. Muchas gracias por leer este texto Illidan_Stormrage 01:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)Illidan Stormrage