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MediaWiki talk:Common.css/Archive1
Hey[edit]
Hey Pi, quit messing with the look and feel without discussion :( It's disconcerting... ħuman
04:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- He only changed the testing group, something that should not need discussing. Nx (talk) 05:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Nx, I am not really familiar with CSS. Is there away I can make all subpage have the same effect, say with a regex command? - π 05:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
So are we going to explain to everyone how to upload fonts on this thing? Or can we "automate" it from outside this file? Just curious... your test worked on my FF 3.5, of course. I wonder who else it worked for? ħuman
08:33, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- I think you're wanking just because you can. I hope the help file you write when you're done makes this clear and easy for everyone to use. If so, I apologize. But my experience with code-wankers is that they install shit just because they can, and can't explain to normal people how to use it. Please prove me wrong. ħuman
09:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Personal modifications[edit]
I think we should have a debate on this. Bastard cubic Hoover! 22:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think we already are ;) It might actually belong at community standards talk, though. ħuman
23:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Fonts[edit]
I have removed all of them, as they were what Jeeves took offence at originally, before it was only my sig that was the problem. Bastard cubic Hoover! 10:03, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Fonts are not just for personal stuff, they're also for rationalwiki stuff, e.g. the derrington font was for ten commandments. Nx (talk) 10:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Anyway, I don't care about it any more, and I won't bother adding back ttf and eot file upload support after the next upgrade. Nx (talk) 10:08, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Due to the controversy? Bastard cubic Hoover! 10:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I've received too much flaming from day one because of this, not just because of your sig. If the mob decides they want it, the instructions are on Trents talk page, and the patch is in my home directory on the server. If the mob decides they want to use images instead, they can also do that. I don't care. Nx (talk) 10:15, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- A few technophobes got upset because they didn't understand it. Don't let that stop you, you should give us as many options to be creative as possible, we should make this the best wiki we are capable of making. By the is that vector stuff a new skin available under 1.15? - π 10:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Vector is experimental and unfinished, and what's worse, even though it looks similar to monobook, the developers made a few senseless changes (like renaming of classes of things that do the same thing, or introduction of new system messages for the vector tabs, though that's probably just because of the experimental nature of the skin) that do nothing but break existing stuff (resulting in an edit war on Wikipedia over a compatibility gadget which was added by one sysop without discussion). I'm not touching it until we upgrade to a version of mediawiki which includes the skin. Nx (talk) 10:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- That is a shame, it looked nice. I would like to see some changes to the skin though. When WikiSynergy came to our attention Human complained about their colours and a disgruntled user pointed out that at least it didn't look like yet another Wikipedia knock off. I thought they were both right, WS colours were awful and we look like a Wikipedia knock off. I was hoping in the upgrade to the vector skin we could make some changes to differentiate ourselves a little more. - π 10:42, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- We don't need vector for that. You can find skinning tutorials on mediawiki (it's easiest to copy monobook and then play around with its main.css). You can make a custom rationalwiki skin and ask Trent or me to upload it. Then you can get the mob to change the default to that. Nx (talk) 10:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I have an old box I have been thinking of giving a new lease of life too. How hard and what hardware requirements are need to install mediawiki? - π 11:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I can't tell you that, but if you just want to play around with mediawiki, they shouldn't be very high. You'll find installation instructions here Nx (talk) 11:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- "The recommended minimum requirements are 256MB of RAM for a single-computer website and 40MB of storage, although this will not suffice for a busy public site or a site with uploading enabled. Some users have reported running MediaWiki on computers with as little as 48MB of RAM." Nx (talk) 11:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Probably will largely be be dependent on the OS I chose. What is RW running on? - π 11:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ubuntu 8.10, desktop edition, although you should install the server edition instead. Nx (talk) 11:59, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I knew it would be Linux. I am going to have face my demons and make the jump. - π 12:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- If you use Ubuntu, you can get all of the software needed to run automatically by installing the MediaWiki package. Bastard cubic Hoover! 12:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Except the package in 9.04 is outdated, it contains MW 1.13. Ubuntu 9.10 alpha contains 1.15. Alternatively, you can try installing the package from debian on 9.04 manually, that's what I did. Try this one, it should be compatible since 9.04 is based on lenny Nx (talk) 12:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- True, but I think the packages on which it depends are up to date. Bastard cubic Hoover! 12:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, they should install with the dependent packages from ubuntu (I think there's a mediawiki-extensions package and a mediawiki-math package that you also need to get from lenny). If it doesn't work, I'll build an Ubuntu 9.04 package for MediaWiki 1.15 (if we're going to upgrade the server, I'm going to need it anyway) Nx (talk) 12:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Okay thanks, I'll have to look into all this. - π 12:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, they should install with the dependent packages from ubuntu (I think there's a mediawiki-extensions package and a mediawiki-math package that you also need to get from lenny). If it doesn't work, I'll build an Ubuntu 9.04 package for MediaWiki 1.15 (if we're going to upgrade the server, I'm going to need it anyway) Nx (talk) 12:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- True, but I think the packages on which it depends are up to date. Bastard cubic Hoover! 12:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Except the package in 9.04 is outdated, it contains MW 1.13. Ubuntu 9.10 alpha contains 1.15. Alternatively, you can try installing the package from debian on 9.04 manually, that's what I did. Try this one, it should be compatible since 9.04 is based on lenny Nx (talk) 12:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- If you use Ubuntu, you can get all of the software needed to run automatically by installing the MediaWiki package. Bastard cubic Hoover! 12:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I knew it would be Linux. I am going to have face my demons and make the jump. - π 12:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ubuntu 8.10, desktop edition, although you should install the server edition instead. Nx (talk) 11:59, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Probably will largely be be dependent on the OS I chose. What is RW running on? - π 11:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- "The recommended minimum requirements are 256MB of RAM for a single-computer website and 40MB of storage, although this will not suffice for a busy public site or a site with uploading enabled. Some users have reported running MediaWiki on computers with as little as 48MB of RAM." Nx (talk) 11:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I can't tell you that, but if you just want to play around with mediawiki, they shouldn't be very high. You'll find installation instructions here Nx (talk) 11:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I have an old box I have been thinking of giving a new lease of life too. How hard and what hardware requirements are need to install mediawiki? - π 11:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- We don't need vector for that. You can find skinning tutorials on mediawiki (it's easiest to copy monobook and then play around with its main.css). You can make a custom rationalwiki skin and ask Trent or me to upload it. Then you can get the mob to change the default to that. Nx (talk) 10:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- That is a shame, it looked nice. I would like to see some changes to the skin though. When WikiSynergy came to our attention Human complained about their colours and a disgruntled user pointed out that at least it didn't look like yet another Wikipedia knock off. I thought they were both right, WS colours were awful and we look like a Wikipedia knock off. I was hoping in the upgrade to the vector skin we could make some changes to differentiate ourselves a little more. - π 10:42, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Vector is experimental and unfinished, and what's worse, even though it looks similar to monobook, the developers made a few senseless changes (like renaming of classes of things that do the same thing, or introduction of new system messages for the vector tabs, though that's probably just because of the experimental nature of the skin) that do nothing but break existing stuff (resulting in an edit war on Wikipedia over a compatibility gadget which was added by one sysop without discussion). I'm not touching it until we upgrade to a version of mediawiki which includes the skin. Nx (talk) 10:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- A few technophobes got upset because they didn't understand it. Don't let that stop you, you should give us as many options to be creative as possible, we should make this the best wiki we are capable of making. By the is that vector stuff a new skin available under 1.15? - π 10:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I've received too much flaming from day one because of this, not just because of your sig. If the mob decides they want it, the instructions are on Trents talk page, and the patch is in my home directory on the server. If the mob decides they want to use images instead, they can also do that. I don't care. Nx (talk) 10:15, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Due to the controversy? Bastard cubic Hoover! 10:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Anyway, I don't care about it any more, and I won't bother adding back ttf and eot file upload support after the next upgrade. Nx (talk) 10:08, 2 August 2009 (UTC)