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Has RationalMedia Foundation yet moved to an anti-SLAPP state?[edit]
There is talk of a libel lawsuit being filed against RationalMedia Foundation on X - so I would suggest moving the RMF as soon as possible out of New Mexico. 149.28.172.217 (talk) 17:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any links to this talk? Carthage (talk) 18:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure what the IP saw but I came across a recent legal discussion on X by Jonatan Pallesen where various of his followers threatened legal action. I believe a group of sockpuppets engaging in joe-jobbing/spoofing/impersonation/parody today are linked to possibly Pallesen and or Jonathan Anomaly (they are in the same "HBD"-sphere). These accounts have been adding unfounded claims and potentially libellous comments to articles of HBDers calling them pro-apartheid, pedophiles and Nazis. I believe this is being done to harm RationalWiki and to try to justify a lawsuit being filed. The word "pedophilic" was added to Pallesens article a few minutes ago. Can hardly be a coincidence the day after this guy talks about suing RationalWiki this gets added to his page by new suspicious accounts. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 01:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- A libel suit has to be initiated by the person who thinks they've been defamed, not by some sycophantic follower. This is because of the requirement of needing legal standing to successfully file any lawsuit. Bongolian (talk) 02:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- True but I believe Pallesen/Anomaly are likely directing their followers here to vandalise their articles. If extreme unfounded claims get added to their pages they can file lawsuits. Both have unsuccessfully tried to deindex their articles from Google, so I would not be surprised they are now resorting to these dirty tricks. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 02:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- And the fallout of the He Who Must Not Be Named case now comes back, which I suspected it would. RMF needs to get to an anti-SLAPP state and fucking fast before this becomes an actual snowball and then an avalanche. Life experience tells me that money makes shit go quicker, so I suggest doing an emergency 'we need to do an emergency move to safeguard our future' fundraiser to make it go quicker. KarmaPolice (talk) 16:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Any idea on the cost of hiring a lawyer for tis, which I presume is the main cost? These two sites have some general information on the process: Foundation Group, "Moving a Nonprofit from One State to Another"[1] and The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, "Overview of Anti-SLAPP Laws".[2] Bongolian (talk) 20:49, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- All this is in the works. Please refer to the October 2024 meeting notes. And thanks for the pointers. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 21:23, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Any idea on the cost of hiring a lawyer for tis, which I presume is the main cost? These two sites have some general information on the process: Foundation Group, "Moving a Nonprofit from One State to Another"[1] and The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, "Overview of Anti-SLAPP Laws".[2] Bongolian (talk) 20:49, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- And the fallout of the He Who Must Not Be Named case now comes back, which I suspected it would. RMF needs to get to an anti-SLAPP state and fucking fast before this becomes an actual snowball and then an avalanche. Life experience tells me that money makes shit go quicker, so I suggest doing an emergency 'we need to do an emergency move to safeguard our future' fundraiser to make it go quicker. KarmaPolice (talk) 16:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- True but I believe Pallesen/Anomaly are likely directing their followers here to vandalise their articles. If extreme unfounded claims get added to their pages they can file lawsuits. Both have unsuccessfully tried to deindex their articles from Google, so I would not be surprised they are now resorting to these dirty tricks. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 02:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- A libel suit has to be initiated by the person who thinks they've been defamed, not by some sycophantic follower. This is because of the requirement of needing legal standing to successfully file any lawsuit. Bongolian (talk) 02:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure what the IP saw but I came across a recent legal discussion on X by Jonatan Pallesen where various of his followers threatened legal action. I believe a group of sockpuppets engaging in joe-jobbing/spoofing/impersonation/parody today are linked to possibly Pallesen and or Jonathan Anomaly (they are in the same "HBD"-sphere). These accounts have been adding unfounded claims and potentially libellous comments to articles of HBDers calling them pro-apartheid, pedophiles and Nazis. I believe this is being done to harm RationalWiki and to try to justify a lawsuit being filed. The word "pedophilic" was added to Pallesens article a few minutes ago. Can hardly be a coincidence the day after this guy talks about suing RationalWiki this gets added to his page by new suspicious accounts. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 01:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)