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15:23, 28 September 2022: Luigifan19 (talk | contribs) triggered filter 70, performing the action "edit" on User talk:Luigifan19. Actions taken: Tag; Filter description: Tag large talkpage edits (examine)

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{{welcome}}
  
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==Autopatrolled==
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{{rit}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 08:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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==Minor edit checkbox==
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Hi, the minor edit checkbox should generally reserved for edits that are restricted to spelling, grammar or formatting corrections. Thank you. [[User:Bongolian|Bongolian]] ([[User talk:Bongolian|talk]]) 02:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
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== Sysop ==
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{{rights|1}} [[User:GeeJayK|GeeJayK]] ([[User talk:GeeJayK|talk]]) 19:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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== For unbanning a Ken sock and a spambot ==
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{{trout}}{{trout}}
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That one account was obviously a Ken sock if you were paying attention to the other recently banned Ken socks (as well as Ken's behavior in general), and you forgot to check the deleted contributions of the spambot (and also check the edit filter as well). [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:27, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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:How ''do'' I check deleted contributions? I checked "suppressed contributions" and nothing turned up. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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::[[Special:DeletedContributions]] [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:32, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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:::I checked that and I still don't see anything that they've done. I also checked the block log and there is no indication of what their IP address is. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:39, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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::::You were supposed to look at the [[Special:DeletedContributions/RefugioLau60995|deleted contributions]] of "RefugioLau60995", the spambot you unbanned. The blocklist won't give you someone's IP, but it does indicate whether two banned users share an IP, as IPs only get autoblocked once and blocking another user with that IP would just reset that autoblock. Look at the blocklist, "AceDidNotDie" doesn't have its own unique autoblock, but the autoblock for "Lindell" is directly under it, but is no longer next to the banned "Lindell" account. This is because after "AceDidNotDie" was banned, the autoblock moved from after "Lindell" to before "AceDidNotDie", as the two accounts share the same IP that can only be autoblocked once. But all this is besides the point, even if "AceDidNotDie" is somehow ''not'' Ken, of which we have overwhelming against but anyway, even if it is a new user they should still be banned as that username was chosen specifically to harass another user, and we don't allow that here. In short, stop playing defense for obvious harassers. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:47, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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:::::I'm not defending them, I just want to see whether or not there is actual evidence for wrongdoing before passing judgment. If they are a vandal or spammer and it can be demonstrated that they are, I have no objections to their being blocked. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:49, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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:::::Also, I just reviewed the RefugioLau thing and ''what the heck is that.'' Okay, let's leave that one to rot. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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::::::(ec)[[RationalWiki:Blocking policy#Long-term blocks|Unacceptable usernames, ban evasion, and harassment]] are all perfectly valid reasons to be blocked, and I have demonstrated that this "user" is guilty of all three of these things. There is no need to litigate this further. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:53, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Please stop ==
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The ban reason specifically said to look at the edit filter. I'm tired of you constantly unbanning bad-faith accounts without even considering why they are banned. Please try to apply more foresight when using sysop tools. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 04:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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:I've tried looking at the edit filter, and I can't get it to show me anything. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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::The actual edit filter interface is really only useful for techs. The filter is represented as [[User:Edit filter]], and because it has the bot group, its actions are hidden by default from recent changes. You can view the users blocked by it at [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=Edit+filter&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this page]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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:::…Okay, but how do I confirm that a given blocked new account wasn't blocked by mistake without seeing any contributions from them or other indications that they're a blocked spammer making an attempt at ban evasion? --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:44, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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::::I don't think that's possible. Most filters are only viewable by the techs, so we don't really know how the filter decides to block most accounts. Supposedly, if they are legit and have been banhammered by mistake, they'll post to their talk page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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:::::Quite a few of them aren't ''allowed'' to post to their talk page… --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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::::::That seems like an error, they should have the ability to post on their talkpage, according to the edit filter's user page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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:::::::I wasn't talking about the people blocked by the edit filter there. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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{{od}}[[Special:AbuseLog|Here's the filter log]]. Those accounts tried to spam the wiki but failed, and unbanning them will just give them the chance to do it again. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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== So ==
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Why do you like Luigi {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 23:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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:Hard to say exactly. I've been going by Luigifan on the Internet for a long, ''long'' time. I guess I just like sidekicks and underdogs. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Welcoming accounts ==
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Only do it after the account made an edit, most registrations nowadays are spambots. In fact, one of the "users" whose talkpage you created is already a hit in the edit filter, so again, please don't be so naïve. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:36, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Copyright ==
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Welcome to the absolutely not-confusing world of copyright! Every country has its own rules, but I guess that since RW is based in the US, it is subject to [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_States their rules]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 16:37, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Altering Talk page entries. ==
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DON'T! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 16:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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== ButterCashier ==
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Check out my talkpage, that user is apparently a sock of a troll long banned from this website. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:50, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Don't fucking alter my User page, pillock!  ==
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That's all! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 13:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
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:I do not give a fuck!! {{ping|Fart!!}} --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 02:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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{{AtimNotice}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 01:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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== When blocking suspected spambots ==
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Generally, it's best to wait until they make an edit or are a hit on the edit filter before doing so. "First name and three random letters" is a common enough spam format that those accounts can be purged ([[User:Anthonyvax]], [[User:Donaldlwe]], those 50+ accounts that I just banned, etc.) but otherwise you should wait for evidence. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:12, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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:I noticed the accounts you had blocked were already hits on the edit filter, so my bad for assuming otherwise. Still, it's good advice. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Suppression rights ==
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They are typically only used on things like doxing, potential libel, threats, and other nasty stuff. Using it because you don't like one of your edit summaries is an abuse of the permission. For more information, see [[RationalWiki talk:All things in moderation/Archive36#Suppressing page histories]]. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:28, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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== No hard feelings ==
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I voted "yes" for sysoprevoke in your ATIM case. I don't think you'll make a bad sysop, but I really think it will be good for you if you just forget about sysop stuff for a while. Once sysoprevoke expires, if it passes, I'll gladly give you sysop again should you want it. If you're interested in sysop stuff after the sysoprevoke, I'd recommend to read the [[RW:CS|Community Standards]] (for deletion guidance) and the [[RW:SYSOP|Sysop guide]], and remember that RW sysop is not a big deal, just mark as patrolled edits that are not wandalism, revert if it is and give autopatrolled (I try to wait until a week to give this one, or give it immediately if they made very high quality edits, like the guy that remade the [[Tor]] page, they were a new user, yet I gave them autopatrolled) and sysop to users that have been here for a while (I personally wait until the user is at least +1 month, has a bunch of edits that are not like unfunny wandalism or just fixing small stuff). [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 19:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

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'Luigifan19'
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'User talk:Luigifan19'
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'{{welcome}} ==Autopatrolled== {{rit}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 08:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC) ==Minor edit checkbox== Hi, the minor edit checkbox should generally reserved for edits that are restricted to spelling, grammar or formatting corrections. Thank you. [[User:Bongolian|Bongolian]] ([[User talk:Bongolian|talk]]) 02:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC) == Sysop == {{rights|1}} [[User:GeeJayK|GeeJayK]] ([[User talk:GeeJayK|talk]]) 19:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC) == For unbanning a Ken sock and a spambot == {{trout}}{{trout}} That one account was obviously a Ken sock if you were paying attention to the other recently banned Ken socks (as well as Ken's behavior in general), and you forgot to check the deleted contributions of the spambot (and also check the edit filter as well). [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:27, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :How ''do'' I check deleted contributions? I checked "suppressed contributions" and nothing turned up. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC) ::[[Special:DeletedContributions]] [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:32, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :::I checked that and I still don't see anything that they've done. I also checked the block log and there is no indication of what their IP address is. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:39, 2 September 2022 (UTC) ::::You were supposed to look at the [[Special:DeletedContributions/RefugioLau60995|deleted contributions]] of "RefugioLau60995", the spambot you unbanned. The blocklist won't give you someone's IP, but it does indicate whether two banned users share an IP, as IPs only get autoblocked once and blocking another user with that IP would just reset that autoblock. Look at the blocklist, "AceDidNotDie" doesn't have its own unique autoblock, but the autoblock for "Lindell" is directly under it, but is no longer next to the banned "Lindell" account. This is because after "AceDidNotDie" was banned, the autoblock moved from after "Lindell" to before "AceDidNotDie", as the two accounts share the same IP that can only be autoblocked once. But all this is besides the point, even if "AceDidNotDie" is somehow ''not'' Ken, of which we have overwhelming against but anyway, even if it is a new user they should still be banned as that username was chosen specifically to harass another user, and we don't allow that here. In short, stop playing defense for obvious harassers. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:47, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :::::I'm not defending them, I just want to see whether or not there is actual evidence for wrongdoing before passing judgment. If they are a vandal or spammer and it can be demonstrated that they are, I have no objections to their being blocked. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:49, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :::::Also, I just reviewed the RefugioLau thing and ''what the heck is that.'' Okay, let's leave that one to rot. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC) ::::::(ec)[[RationalWiki:Blocking policy#Long-term blocks|Unacceptable usernames, ban evasion, and harassment]] are all perfectly valid reasons to be blocked, and I have demonstrated that this "user" is guilty of all three of these things. There is no need to litigate this further. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:53, 2 September 2022 (UTC) == Please stop == The ban reason specifically said to look at the edit filter. I'm tired of you constantly unbanning bad-faith accounts without even considering why they are banned. Please try to apply more foresight when using sysop tools. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 04:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC) :I've tried looking at the edit filter, and I can't get it to show me anything. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC) ::The actual edit filter interface is really only useful for techs. The filter is represented as [[User:Edit filter]], and because it has the bot group, its actions are hidden by default from recent changes. You can view the users blocked by it at [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=Edit+filter&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this page]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC) :::…Okay, but how do I confirm that a given blocked new account wasn't blocked by mistake without seeing any contributions from them or other indications that they're a blocked spammer making an attempt at ban evasion? --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:44, 3 September 2022 (UTC) ::::I don't think that's possible. Most filters are only viewable by the techs, so we don't really know how the filter decides to block most accounts. Supposedly, if they are legit and have been banhammered by mistake, they'll post to their talk page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC) :::::Quite a few of them aren't ''allowed'' to post to their talk page… --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC) ::::::That seems like an error, they should have the ability to post on their talkpage, according to the edit filter's user page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC) :::::::I wasn't talking about the people blocked by the edit filter there. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC) {{od}}[[Special:AbuseLog|Here's the filter log]]. Those accounts tried to spam the wiki but failed, and unbanning them will just give them the chance to do it again. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC) == So == Why do you like Luigi {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 23:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC) :Hard to say exactly. I've been going by Luigifan on the Internet for a long, ''long'' time. I guess I just like sidekicks and underdogs. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC) == Welcoming accounts == Only do it after the account made an edit, most registrations nowadays are spambots. In fact, one of the "users" whose talkpage you created is already a hit in the edit filter, so again, please don't be so naïve. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:36, 4 September 2022 (UTC) == Copyright == Welcome to the absolutely not-confusing world of copyright! Every country has its own rules, but I guess that since RW is based in the US, it is subject to [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_States their rules]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 16:37, 17 September 2022 (UTC) == Altering Talk page entries. == DON'T! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 16:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC) == ButterCashier == Check out my talkpage, that user is apparently a sock of a troll long banned from this website. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:50, 23 September 2022 (UTC) == Don't fucking alter my User page, pillock! == That's all! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 13:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC) :I do not give a fuck!! {{ping|Fart!!}} --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 02:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC) {{AtimNotice}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 01:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC) == When blocking suspected spambots == Generally, it's best to wait until they make an edit or are a hit on the edit filter before doing so. "First name and three random letters" is a common enough spam format that those accounts can be purged ([[User:Anthonyvax]], [[User:Donaldlwe]], those 50+ accounts that I just banned, etc.) but otherwise you should wait for evidence. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:12, 26 September 2022 (UTC) :I noticed the accounts you had blocked were already hits on the edit filter, so my bad for assuming otherwise. Still, it's good advice. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC) == Suppression rights == They are typically only used on things like doxing, potential libel, threats, and other nasty stuff. Using it because you don't like one of your edit summaries is an abuse of the permission. For more information, see [[RationalWiki talk:All things in moderation/Archive36#Suppressing page histories]]. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:28, 26 September 2022 (UTC) == No hard feelings == I voted "yes" for sysoprevoke in your ATIM case. I don't think you'll make a bad sysop, but I really think it will be good for you if you just forget about sysop stuff for a while. Once sysoprevoke expires, if it passes, I'll gladly give you sysop again should you want it. If you're interested in sysop stuff after the sysoprevoke, I'd recommend to read the [[RW:CS|Community Standards]] (for deletion guidance) and the [[RW:SYSOP|Sysop guide]], and remember that RW sysop is not a big deal, just mark as patrolled edits that are not wandalism, revert if it is and give autopatrolled (I try to wait until a week to give this one, or give it immediately if they made very high quality edits, like the guy that remade the [[Tor]] page, they were a new user, yet I gave them autopatrolled) and sysop to users that have been here for a while (I personally wait until the user is at least +1 month, has a bunch of edits that are not like unfunny wandalism or just fixing small stuff). [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 19:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC)'
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'@@ -1,0 +1,77 @@ +{{welcome}} + +==Autopatrolled== +{{rit}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 08:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC) + +==Minor edit checkbox== +Hi, the minor edit checkbox should generally reserved for edits that are restricted to spelling, grammar or formatting corrections. Thank you. [[User:Bongolian|Bongolian]] ([[User talk:Bongolian|talk]]) 02:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC) + +== Sysop == + +{{rights|1}} [[User:GeeJayK|GeeJayK]] ([[User talk:GeeJayK|talk]]) 19:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC) + +== For unbanning a Ken sock and a spambot == + +{{trout}}{{trout}} + +That one account was obviously a Ken sock if you were paying attention to the other recently banned Ken socks (as well as Ken's behavior in general), and you forgot to check the deleted contributions of the spambot (and also check the edit filter as well). [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:27, 2 September 2022 (UTC) +:How ''do'' I check deleted contributions? I checked "suppressed contributions" and nothing turned up. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC) +::[[Special:DeletedContributions]] [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:32, 2 September 2022 (UTC) +:::I checked that and I still don't see anything that they've done. I also checked the block log and there is no indication of what their IP address is. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:39, 2 September 2022 (UTC) +::::You were supposed to look at the [[Special:DeletedContributions/RefugioLau60995|deleted contributions]] of "RefugioLau60995", the spambot you unbanned. The blocklist won't give you someone's IP, but it does indicate whether two banned users share an IP, as IPs only get autoblocked once and blocking another user with that IP would just reset that autoblock. Look at the blocklist, "AceDidNotDie" doesn't have its own unique autoblock, but the autoblock for "Lindell" is directly under it, but is no longer next to the banned "Lindell" account. This is because after "AceDidNotDie" was banned, the autoblock moved from after "Lindell" to before "AceDidNotDie", as the two accounts share the same IP that can only be autoblocked once. But all this is besides the point, even if "AceDidNotDie" is somehow ''not'' Ken, of which we have overwhelming against but anyway, even if it is a new user they should still be banned as that username was chosen specifically to harass another user, and we don't allow that here. In short, stop playing defense for obvious harassers. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:47, 2 September 2022 (UTC) +:::::I'm not defending them, I just want to see whether or not there is actual evidence for wrongdoing before passing judgment. If they are a vandal or spammer and it can be demonstrated that they are, I have no objections to their being blocked. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:49, 2 September 2022 (UTC) +:::::Also, I just reviewed the RefugioLau thing and ''what the heck is that.'' Okay, let's leave that one to rot. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC) +::::::(ec)[[RationalWiki:Blocking policy#Long-term blocks|Unacceptable usernames, ban evasion, and harassment]] are all perfectly valid reasons to be blocked, and I have demonstrated that this "user" is guilty of all three of these things. There is no need to litigate this further. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:53, 2 September 2022 (UTC) + +== Please stop == + +The ban reason specifically said to look at the edit filter. I'm tired of you constantly unbanning bad-faith accounts without even considering why they are banned. Please try to apply more foresight when using sysop tools. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 04:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +:I've tried looking at the edit filter, and I can't get it to show me anything. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +::The actual edit filter interface is really only useful for techs. The filter is represented as [[User:Edit filter]], and because it has the bot group, its actions are hidden by default from recent changes. You can view the users blocked by it at [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=Edit+filter&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this page]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +:::…Okay, but how do I confirm that a given blocked new account wasn't blocked by mistake without seeing any contributions from them or other indications that they're a blocked spammer making an attempt at ban evasion? --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:44, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +::::I don't think that's possible. Most filters are only viewable by the techs, so we don't really know how the filter decides to block most accounts. Supposedly, if they are legit and have been banhammered by mistake, they'll post to their talk page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +:::::Quite a few of them aren't ''allowed'' to post to their talk page… --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +::::::That seems like an error, they should have the ability to post on their talkpage, according to the edit filter's user page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +:::::::I wasn't talking about the people blocked by the edit filter there. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +{{od}}[[Special:AbuseLog|Here's the filter log]]. Those accounts tried to spam the wiki but failed, and unbanning them will just give them the chance to do it again. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC) + +== So == + +Why do you like Luigi {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 23:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC) +:Hard to say exactly. I've been going by Luigifan on the Internet for a long, ''long'' time. I guess I just like sidekicks and underdogs. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC) + +== Welcoming accounts == + +Only do it after the account made an edit, most registrations nowadays are spambots. In fact, one of the "users" whose talkpage you created is already a hit in the edit filter, so again, please don't be so naïve. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:36, 4 September 2022 (UTC) + +== Copyright == + +Welcome to the absolutely not-confusing world of copyright! Every country has its own rules, but I guess that since RW is based in the US, it is subject to [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_States their rules]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 16:37, 17 September 2022 (UTC) + +== Altering Talk page entries. == + +DON'T! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 16:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC) + +== ButterCashier == + +Check out my talkpage, that user is apparently a sock of a troll long banned from this website. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:50, 23 September 2022 (UTC) + +== Don't fucking alter my User page, pillock! == + +That's all! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 13:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC) +:I do not give a fuck!! {{ping|Fart!!}} --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 02:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC) + +{{AtimNotice}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 01:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC) + +== When blocking suspected spambots == + +Generally, it's best to wait until they make an edit or are a hit on the edit filter before doing so. "First name and three random letters" is a common enough spam format that those accounts can be purged ([[User:Anthonyvax]], [[User:Donaldlwe]], those 50+ accounts that I just banned, etc.) but otherwise you should wait for evidence. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:12, 26 September 2022 (UTC) +:I noticed the accounts you had blocked were already hits on the edit filter, so my bad for assuming otherwise. Still, it's good advice. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC) + +== Suppression rights == + +They are typically only used on things like doxing, potential libel, threats, and other nasty stuff. Using it because you don't like one of your edit summaries is an abuse of the permission. For more information, see [[RationalWiki talk:All things in moderation/Archive36#Suppressing page histories]]. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:28, 26 September 2022 (UTC) + +== No hard feelings == + +I voted "yes" for sysoprevoke in your ATIM case. I don't think you'll make a bad sysop, but I really think it will be good for you if you just forget about sysop stuff for a while. Once sysoprevoke expires, if it passes, I'll gladly give you sysop again should you want it. If you're interested in sysop stuff after the sysoprevoke, I'd recommend to read the [[RW:CS|Community Standards]] (for deletion guidance) and the [[RW:SYSOP|Sysop guide]], and remember that RW sysop is not a big deal, just mark as patrolled edits that are not wandalism, revert if it is and give autopatrolled (I try to wait until a week to give this one, or give it immediately if they made very high quality edits, like the guy that remade the [[Tor]] page, they were a new user, yet I gave them autopatrolled) and sysop to users that have been here for a while (I personally wait until the user is at least +1 month, has a bunch of edits that are not like unfunny wandalism or just fixing small stuff). [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 19:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC) '
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[ 0 => '{{welcome}}', 1 => '', 2 => '==Autopatrolled==', 3 => '{{rit}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 08:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC)', 4 => '', 5 => '==Minor edit checkbox==', 6 => 'Hi, the minor edit checkbox should generally reserved for edits that are restricted to spelling, grammar or formatting corrections. Thank you. [[User:Bongolian|Bongolian]] ([[User talk:Bongolian|talk]]) 02:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)', 7 => '', 8 => '== Sysop ==', 9 => '', 10 => '{{rights|1}} [[User:GeeJayK|GeeJayK]] ([[User talk:GeeJayK|talk]]) 19:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)', 11 => '', 12 => '== For unbanning a Ken sock and a spambot ==', 13 => '', 14 => '{{trout}}{{trout}}', 15 => '', 16 => 'That one account was obviously a Ken sock if you were paying attention to the other recently banned Ken socks (as well as Ken's behavior in general), and you forgot to check the deleted contributions of the spambot (and also check the edit filter as well). [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:27, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 17 => ':How ''do'' I check deleted contributions? I checked "suppressed contributions" and nothing turned up. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 18 => '::[[Special:DeletedContributions]] [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:32, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 19 => ':::I checked that and I still don't see anything that they've done. I also checked the block log and there is no indication of what their IP address is. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:39, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 20 => '::::You were supposed to look at the [[Special:DeletedContributions/RefugioLau60995|deleted contributions]] of "RefugioLau60995", the spambot you unbanned. The blocklist won't give you someone's IP, but it does indicate whether two banned users share an IP, as IPs only get autoblocked once and blocking another user with that IP would just reset that autoblock. Look at the blocklist, "AceDidNotDie" doesn't have its own unique autoblock, but the autoblock for "Lindell" is directly under it, but is no longer next to the banned "Lindell" account. This is because after "AceDidNotDie" was banned, the autoblock moved from after "Lindell" to before "AceDidNotDie", as the two accounts share the same IP that can only be autoblocked once. But all this is besides the point, even if "AceDidNotDie" is somehow ''not'' Ken, of which we have overwhelming against but anyway, even if it is a new user they should still be banned as that username was chosen specifically to harass another user, and we don't allow that here. In short, stop playing defense for obvious harassers. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:47, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 21 => ':::::I'm not defending them, I just want to see whether or not there is actual evidence for wrongdoing before passing judgment. If they are a vandal or spammer and it can be demonstrated that they are, I have no objections to their being blocked. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:49, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 22 => ':::::Also, I just reviewed the RefugioLau thing and ''what the heck is that.'' Okay, let's leave that one to rot. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 17:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 23 => '::::::(ec)[[RationalWiki:Blocking policy#Long-term blocks|Unacceptable usernames, ban evasion, and harassment]] are all perfectly valid reasons to be blocked, and I have demonstrated that this "user" is guilty of all three of these things. There is no need to litigate this further. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 17:53, 2 September 2022 (UTC)', 24 => '', 25 => '== Please stop ==', 26 => '', 27 => 'The ban reason specifically said to look at the edit filter. I'm tired of you constantly unbanning bad-faith accounts without even considering why they are banned. Please try to apply more foresight when using sysop tools. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 04:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 28 => ':I've tried looking at the edit filter, and I can't get it to show me anything. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 29 => '::The actual edit filter interface is really only useful for techs. The filter is represented as [[User:Edit filter]], and because it has the bot group, its actions are hidden by default from recent changes. You can view the users blocked by it at [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=Edit+filter&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this page]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 30 => ':::…Okay, but how do I confirm that a given blocked new account wasn't blocked by mistake without seeing any contributions from them or other indications that they're a blocked spammer making an attempt at ban evasion? --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 21:44, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 31 => '::::I don't think that's possible. Most filters are only viewable by the techs, so we don't really know how the filter decides to block most accounts. Supposedly, if they are legit and have been banhammered by mistake, they'll post to their talk page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 21:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 32 => ':::::Quite a few of them aren't ''allowed'' to post to their talk page… --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 33 => '::::::That seems like an error, they should have the ability to post on their talkpage, according to the edit filter's user page. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 34 => ':::::::I wasn't talking about the people blocked by the edit filter there. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 35 => '{{od}}[[Special:AbuseLog|Here's the filter log]]. Those accounts tried to spam the wiki but failed, and unbanning them will just give them the chance to do it again. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC)', 36 => '', 37 => '== So ==', 38 => '', 39 => 'Why do you like Luigi {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 23:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC)', 40 => ':Hard to say exactly. I've been going by Luigifan on the Internet for a long, ''long'' time. I guess I just like sidekicks and underdogs. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC)', 41 => '', 42 => '== Welcoming accounts ==', 43 => '', 44 => 'Only do it after the account made an edit, most registrations nowadays are spambots. In fact, one of the "users" whose talkpage you created is already a hit in the edit filter, so again, please don't be so naïve. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:36, 4 September 2022 (UTC)', 45 => '', 46 => '== Copyright ==', 47 => '', 48 => 'Welcome to the absolutely not-confusing world of copyright! Every country has its own rules, but I guess that since RW is based in the US, it is subject to [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_States their rules]. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 16:37, 17 September 2022 (UTC)', 49 => '', 50 => '== Altering Talk page entries. ==', 51 => '', 52 => 'DON'T! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 16:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)', 53 => '', 54 => '== ButterCashier ==', 55 => '', 56 => 'Check out my talkpage, that user is apparently a sock of a troll long banned from this website. [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 22:50, 23 September 2022 (UTC)', 57 => '', 58 => '== Don't fucking alter my User page, pillock! ==', 59 => '', 60 => 'That's all! [[User:Scream!!|Scream!!]] ([[User talk:Scream!!|talk]]) 13:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)', 61 => ':I do not give a fuck!! {{ping|Fart!!}} --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 02:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)', 62 => '', 63 => '{{AtimNotice}} [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 01:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)', 64 => '', 65 => '== When blocking suspected spambots ==', 66 => '', 67 => 'Generally, it's best to wait until they make an edit or are a hit on the edit filter before doing so. "First name and three random letters" is a common enough spam format that those accounts can be purged ([[User:Anthonyvax]], [[User:Donaldlwe]], those 50+ accounts that I just banned, etc.) but otherwise you should wait for evidence. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:12, 26 September 2022 (UTC)', 68 => ':I noticed the accounts you had blocked were already hits on the edit filter, so my bad for assuming otherwise. Still, it's good advice. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)', 69 => '', 70 => '== Suppression rights ==', 71 => '', 72 => 'They are typically only used on things like doxing, potential libel, threats, and other nasty stuff. Using it because you don't like one of your edit summaries is an abuse of the permission. For more information, see [[RationalWiki talk:All things in moderation/Archive36#Suppressing page histories]]. [[User:Plutocow|Plutocow]] ([[User talk:Plutocow|talk]]) 02:28, 26 September 2022 (UTC)', 73 => '', 74 => '== No hard feelings ==', 75 => '', 76 => 'I voted "yes" for sysoprevoke in your ATIM case. I don't think you'll make a bad sysop, but I really think it will be good for you if you just forget about sysop stuff for a while. Once sysoprevoke expires, if it passes, I'll gladly give you sysop again should you want it. If you're interested in sysop stuff after the sysoprevoke, I'd recommend to read the [[RW:CS|Community Standards]] (for deletion guidance) and the [[RW:SYSOP|Sysop guide]], and remember that RW sysop is not a big deal, just mark as patrolled edits that are not wandalism, revert if it is and give autopatrolled (I try to wait until a week to give this one, or give it immediately if they made very high quality edits, like the guy that remade the [[Tor]] page, they were a new user, yet I gave them autopatrolled) and sysop to users that have been here for a while (I personally wait until the user is at least +1 month, has a bunch of edits that are not like unfunny wandalism or just fixing small stuff). [[User:Rabbitseatcarrots|Rabbitseatcarrots]] ([[User talk:Rabbitseatcarrots|talk]]) 19:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC)' ]
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