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#96: Martino Martini in China[edit]

Do we have a ref for Martini's shock at Chinese records extending to before the Flood? It's not in his Wikipedia article, for example - David Gerard (talk) 07:33, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

[1] maybe?
The blurry text seems to read: "Jesuit misionary Martino Martini shows that Chinese history [something something something]. Nobody takes notice."
I'll keep looking. Peter tanquam ex ungue leonem 07:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm not finding anything about his reactions to his find—what exactly do you need? This might be good. ED: This too...maybe. Peter tanquam ex ungue leonem 07:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I think we need something that clearly supports the story we tell in the entry. I don't doubt it, but a good ref will help third-party readers - David Gerard (talk) 08:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I got the story from Measuring Eternity by Martin Gorst (2001) which is an American version of Aeons published in the UK. In his notes and sources Gorst references: Historians of China and Japan ed. W.G.Beasley and E.G.Pulleyblank, London, 1961; The Forgotten Christians of Hanzhou by David E. Mungello, Honolulu, 1994; Curious Land: Jesuit Accommodation and the Origins of Sinology by David E. Mungello, Honolulu, 1989; and Observations mathématiques, astronomiques, geographiques, chronologiques, et physiques, tirées des anciens livres chinois; ou faites nouvellement aux Indes et a la Chine par les peres de la Compagnie de Jesus, Paris, 1729, for how the Jesuits cross-referenced eclipses with Chinese history. Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic?Moderator 09:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

#59: "shabbily acquired"[edit]

I skimmed the t.o article and didn't spot what this bit refers to - what were you thinking of? - David Gerard (talk) 12:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


If this is going to be getting link traffic we should use the base page as an index and link to sub pages with groupings of like 1-20 or something. Tmtoulouse (talk) 18:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Or looking at it now its been subdivided by topic that works too. Tmtoulouse (talk) 18:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, it was a bit of an arse to edit. That points can be tuned individually is helpful, and the by-section is helpful. How's it going for hits? What's a Pharyngulation look like? - David Gerard (talk) 19:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Don't know if you've heard[edit]

But this happened. Syndicalist 18:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Nope, hadn't heard at all. -- Seth Peck (talk) 18:47, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I emailed and asked PZ:-) The more good skeptics go over this article, the better it will be - David Gerard (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
+1 -- Seth Peck (talk) 19:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I figured as much. Well done sir. Syndicalist 19:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

For when being nice is getting to be a bit of a strain[edit]

Fun:101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe. Feel free to expand with your frustrations answering this or any other Gish gallop. (Though I wouldn't link it from the article. It can be our little secret.) - David Gerard (talk) 22:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)