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Talk:Black Lives Matter/Archive2
Contents
- 1 Is falsification of history your expertice?
- 2 Hooligans and criminals co-opting the movement
- 3 Black Lives Matter meetings run afoul of library's policy
- 4 BLM = Frankfurt School
- 5 Refusing to meet with the president
- 6 Bronze or higher?
- 7 Why is there an all too long totally besides the point section on Boycott Divestment Sanctions
- 8 Sources (I cannot make refs because my computer is broken)
- 9 Criminal lives matter?
- 10 Criticism Section
- 11 Do your own research!
- 12 Recent BoN contributions
- 13 Alton Sterling - convicted paedophile, violent gang member
- 14 Say it isn't so
Is falsification of history your expertice?[edit]
This should be enough: Read the talk pages. You can not claim ignorance in that case and that makes you on par with David Irving. Sorte Slyngel (talk) 01:13, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- What? Are you talking to the article? Or?--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 01:16, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Recently, he left a totally incoherent dropping about Assad and ISIS at my talk page. No one could tell WTF he was on about.---Mona- (talk) 01:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Under the egotistical assumtion this is towards me, no, Falsification is not my expetise, though history is, even spent a lot of money and the last 4 years working towards that fancy shelf stuffer i'll be getting next December. The talk pages are primarily a history of you lot, mostly Avenger and then Arisboch, making asses of yourselves over. and over. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:42, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- You need to be more modest, Paravant. :-) I was not aiming at you. I meant Mona, but just forgot to add an @ in the heat of the moment. My totally incomprehensible contribution was deliberately so. I should have used Obama instead of Assad, but the piece was inspired by Mona. And her autobiography fully supports, what I have said about it. Sorte Slyngel (talk) 21:34, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- You are simply making yourself look the fool. No one here is going to beleive I am akin to David Irving, with the exception of a few hardcore Zionists. Which means, almost nobody. Why do you do you say these bizarre things? At one point, it's my "ethics" that are your problem. Then it's my "falsification of history." But you are wholly unable to defend either assertion. You, Sorte, should follow your declaration of leaving all I-P issues strictly alone, because you lose your shit when you do not.---Mona- (talk) 22:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Looking and being are different things. And my shit is under strict control. I am not a Zionist let alone a hardcore one. But I do recognize dishonesty when I see it. It's true that it's more fun to edit where the Middle East is not, but your mindless fanaticism has to be answered. You are not in the possession of all truth, and just to remind you again, your autobiography is the story of a fanatic switching allegiances depending on whom she spoke to last. Sorte Slyngel (talk) 22:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- I do not believe you. LOL. You are so, so much a Zionist. And I'm happy to let my user page speak for itself to reasonable people.---Mona- (talk) 23:41, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Feel free to believe what you want. You'll believe anything. But since you are a sad instance of this, nothing is served by continuing. As for your User Page it describes your being racist A, then racist B and then racist A again. Sorte Slyngel (talk) 00:02, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- I do not believe you. LOL. You are so, so much a Zionist. And I'm happy to let my user page speak for itself to reasonable people.---Mona- (talk) 23:41, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Looking and being are different things. And my shit is under strict control. I am not a Zionist let alone a hardcore one. But I do recognize dishonesty when I see it. It's true that it's more fun to edit where the Middle East is not, but your mindless fanaticism has to be answered. You are not in the possession of all truth, and just to remind you again, your autobiography is the story of a fanatic switching allegiances depending on whom she spoke to last. Sorte Slyngel (talk) 22:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- You are simply making yourself look the fool. No one here is going to beleive I am akin to David Irving, with the exception of a few hardcore Zionists. Which means, almost nobody. Why do you do you say these bizarre things? At one point, it's my "ethics" that are your problem. Then it's my "falsification of history." But you are wholly unable to defend either assertion. You, Sorte, should follow your declaration of leaving all I-P issues strictly alone, because you lose your shit when you do not.---Mona- (talk) 22:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- You need to be more modest, Paravant. :-) I was not aiming at you. I meant Mona, but just forgot to add an @ in the heat of the moment. My totally incomprehensible contribution was deliberately so. I should have used Obama instead of Assad, but the piece was inspired by Mona. And her autobiography fully supports, what I have said about it. Sorte Slyngel (talk) 21:34, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Under the egotistical assumtion this is towards me, no, Falsification is not my expetise, though history is, even spent a lot of money and the last 4 years working towards that fancy shelf stuffer i'll be getting next December. The talk pages are primarily a history of you lot, mostly Avenger and then Arisboch, making asses of yourselves over. and over. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:42, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Recently, he left a totally incoherent dropping about Assad and ISIS at my talk page. No one could tell WTF he was on about.---Mona- (talk) 01:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Hooligans and criminals co-opting the movement[edit]
A recent incident that happened near where my folks live made me kinda think: we should have a section in here talking about how some people take advantage of BLM and other similar race movements/protests to commit crimes and feel self-superior (like the fire hose slasher during the B'more riots), and how others (usually detractors) smear the entire movement from these incidents. Not sure how it would fit, though. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 06:18, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
- It wouldnt fit because that would distract from the narrative and thus be racist. брэндэн (talk) 22:32, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Black Lives Matter meetings run afoul of library's policy[edit]
“”NASHVILLE — Library officials have told Nashville's chapter of the Black Lives Matter movement that meetings restricting those who attend by race aren't allowed on public property.
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| —Black Lives Matter meetings run afoul of library's policy , USA Today |
This is relevant to the subject of the article. Maybe every hashtag movement has it's bad apples?--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 19:58, 1 March 2016 (UTC) 19:58, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
- It's been that way since the start, when they started chanting in that other library when kids were studying for tests. Anyone who says a movement with more than 3 people is entirely good or bad is pretty much ignorable due to sheer, unfiltered naivety.Keter (talk) 12:35, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the entire movement of fascism is/was bad... Pizzameister (talk) 15:36, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but it isn't necessarily true from that point to say that everyone involved in Fascist governments or were citizens of Fascist dictatorships kicked puppies, or stole 40 cakes, or hated parents who are straight and still married, or knowingly and willingly participated in the systematic genocide of over six million Jewish, homosexual, Roma, and other quote-enquote "undesirable" people, et cetera. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 19:44, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Too bad for them if they didn't fight back. Silence is consent, acquiescence, and acceptance. --Castaigne2 (talk) 20:06, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but it isn't necessarily true from that point to say that everyone involved in Fascist governments or were citizens of Fascist dictatorships kicked puppies, or stole 40 cakes, or hated parents who are straight and still married, or knowingly and willingly participated in the systematic genocide of over six million Jewish, homosexual, Roma, and other quote-enquote "undesirable" people, et cetera. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 19:44, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the entire movement of fascism is/was bad... Pizzameister (talk) 15:36, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- ^ I see you're busy propagandizing again... брэндэн (talk) 20:11, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
BLM = Frankfurt School[edit]
And other KIA gems: https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/comments/48ocf8/blacklivesmatter_leaders_also_have_strong_ties_to/ 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 23:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- So after the Jews, now the blacks are too stooges of the Frankfurt School cabal? Who's next, the gays?--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 23:07, 2 March 2016 (UTC) 23:07, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- I never knew this one obscure school of philosophy was so influential... Pizzameister (talk) 17:41, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Wingnuts just love to use them as either some super-powerful bogeyman or as a dog-whistle for antisemitic conspiracy theories (the classic).--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 17:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC) 17:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- What's a dog whistle? Pizzameister (talk) 17:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- [EC] The tin foilers need a mastermind that can never be proven to actually have done anything. Otherwise they might actually identify and solve a real problem...then what will they do with their lives? Get out of the house? Hahahaha. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 17:56, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- A "dog whistle" is that..--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 18:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC) 18:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. Pizzameister (talk) 18:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- A "dog whistle" is that..--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 18:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC) 18:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Wingnuts just love to use them as either some super-powerful bogeyman or as a dog-whistle for antisemitic conspiracy theories (the classic).--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 17:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC) 17:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- I never knew this one obscure school of philosophy was so influential... Pizzameister (talk) 17:41, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Refusing to meet with the president[edit]
This happened. I think it might be worth mentioning. Zero (talk - contributions) 20:27, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Bronze or higher?[edit]
Is it? Is it not? Thoughts? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:58, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- References, formatting and general content are all in place, if you'd ask me. Worthy of bronze.--JorisEnter (talk) 13:02, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- Bronze rating has been added.--JorisEnter (talk) 13:04, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- I support. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- Bronze rating has been added.--JorisEnter (talk) 13:04, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Why is there an all too long totally besides the point section on Boycott Divestment Sanctions
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This article is important and altogether to short despite it's importance topic. Why is there an entire section about something which neither the media nor average Joes associate the movement with? Should we also have a section on whether the leaders prefer coke or Pepsi? Or who they root for in sports? Again: Why does the section on something so utterly unrelated take up such a large part of the article? 149.210.131.21 (talk) 15:59, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
- Because of Mona, Glenn Greenwalds pillow fluffer. And it can't be removed because the people that agree with you have lost willpower over dealing with her and 3 users here which for some reason support her. StickySock (talk) 17:37, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Sources (I cannot make refs because my computer is broken)[edit]
You wanted sources, here you have them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/16/donald-trump-just-threatened-more-violence-only-this-time-its-directed-at-the-gop/ http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/trump-fans-threaten-gun-violence-against-protesters-ahead-of-pittsburgh-visit/ Do you need more? 62.212.73.246 (talk) 19:25, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- I would appreciate if you were to take your full addition, maybe pass over it once more (because it's not gramatically perfect right now), and add in those sources where they're supposed to be. You were able to come up with that text on the page, you were able to come up with this here on this talkpage. It's fully reasonable for me to ask you to wrap this addition together yourself. And even then, I'm not commenting on the content of it. Other editors will be doing that. What I'm doing here is giving you the tools to not have your addition be reverted due to technical reasons, e.g. unsourced and grammatically a little odd in places. Please take care of this. Use ref tags, like so: <ref>your source goes here</ref> . Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:38, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Criminal lives matter?[edit]
In nearly all instances, BLM protests against the killing of criminals. Very rarely are there cases of innocent law-abiding African-Americans being killed by the police.Schizophrenic (talk) 20:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- Yes even a criminal has a right to live. What's wrong with you? Do you really think the penalty for robbery, smuggling cigarettes or whatever should be death? WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS. WRONG. WITH. YOU? 62.212.73.246 (talk) 20:27, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes, criminal lives matter. This is a basic tenet of human rights. Wéáśéĺóíď
Methinks it is a Weasel 22:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:52, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- Criminals might have the right to live, my point was more why all the fuss? What's the point in wasting time protesting if they get killed? Michael Brown for example robbed a store and violently assaulted the store manager before he was shot. Why are people losing sleep over dead criminals like this? Schizophrenic (talk) 23:42, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- Because when the police take the place of the judge, jury, and executioner, you no longer have a justice system. I don't understand what's so hard to understand. CorruptUser (talk) 23:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- Loads of white people have been arrested, stopped by police, even convicted of crimes, without suggestion their lives have no value. From George W Bush to Paul McCartney, Hugh Grant to Bill Gates, do they all deserve to die? Annquin (talk) 00:22, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- white criminals are killed all the time. There are no protests. Why though for black criminals? The BLM has little to do with justice, its a political and ideological movement.Schizophrenic (talk)
- Because white people being killed by cops are much rarer? Because most white people aren't hassled by the cops every other month even when they aren't doing anything wrong? Because when white people are killed by cops, the justice system isn't as likely to take the side of the cops? Because white people on average receive shorter sentences for the same crimes as black people? CorruptUser (talk) 02:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, more whites are killed by police than blacks every year in the US; just look up the stats on google as far as they go back. BLM is based on lies; its an ideological movement. Rather odd "rational"wiki supports it... And what evidence is there African-Americans are hassled by cops more than any other ethnic group in US? None. This is just victim mentality. Schizophrenic (talk) 03:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- There are also a lot more white people than black people; black people are still 2.5 times more likely to be killed by the police. Now please remove your head from your ass already. CorruptUser (talk) 04:26, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Well if you are going to complain about the lack of protests when white people are killed by cops, why not start a protest yourself. Also, the officer stopped Brown for jaywalking and not because he had prior knowledge about a robbery.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 04:42, 12 July 2016 (UTC) 04:42, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- "black people are still 2.5 times more likely to be killed by the police" Read point 1 in this article. These facts destroy your claims of racism.Schizophrenic (talk) 05:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- And what is the ratio of white people to black people? CorruptUser (talk) 05:29, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Well besides that point about blacks getting killed more than whites not being wrong, the article you cite claims that blacks are chargedwith certain crimes more than whites which are an attempt to justify the disproportionate rate of killings in general. You have essentially justified racial profiling an entire community on the assumption that a certain ethnic group is more likely to commit a crime; besides this logic leading towards collective punishments you don't take into account that there is a racial gap in arrests between whites and blacks who commit the same crime and that these poor, usually black, communities are being used to generate money for local governments.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 05:42, 12 July 2016 (UTC) 05:42, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- "black people are still 2.5 times more likely to be killed by the police" Read point 1 in this article. These facts destroy your claims of racism.Schizophrenic (talk) 05:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, more whites are killed by police than blacks every year in the US; just look up the stats on google as far as they go back. BLM is based on lies; its an ideological movement. Rather odd "rational"wiki supports it... And what evidence is there African-Americans are hassled by cops more than any other ethnic group in US? None. This is just victim mentality. Schizophrenic (talk) 03:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Because white people being killed by cops are much rarer? Because most white people aren't hassled by the cops every other month even when they aren't doing anything wrong? Because when white people are killed by cops, the justice system isn't as likely to take the side of the cops? Because white people on average receive shorter sentences for the same crimes as black people? CorruptUser (talk) 02:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- white criminals are killed all the time. There are no protests. Why though for black criminals? The BLM has little to do with justice, its a political and ideological movement.Schizophrenic (talk)
- Criminals might have the right to live, my point was more why all the fuss? What's the point in wasting time protesting if they get killed? Michael Brown for example robbed a store and violently assaulted the store manager before he was shot. Why are people losing sleep over dead criminals like this? Schizophrenic (talk) 23:42, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
"You have essentially justified racial profiling an entire community on the assumption that a certain ethnic group is more likely to commit a crime" - it isn't racial profiling since they're the majority of each city where the crimes take place. This is like idiots in London who moan that cops are stopping and searching blacks more than whites because of racism, when there are very few whites in these crime-infested inner London boroughs. If there are more blacks, then of course they're going to get stopped more.Schizophrenic (talk) 23:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Criticism Section[edit]
I think it should be necessary, seeing how everyone on the internet has been spewing nonsense about BLM being about identity politics or some crap. As of the time indicated when I sign this, I'm debating a bunch of assholes who have openly compared them to certain groups you are familiar with. TheMyon (talk) 01:03, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Do your own research![edit]
There seems to be a bug (please delete this line if the links are fixed)
http://forward.com/opinion/326278/why-campus-blacklivesmatter-protests-are-bad-for-the-jews/
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262164/marriage-black-lives-matter-jew-hatred-john-perazzo
I would call you people cucksuckers, but you seem to dislike this friendly word. 62.212.73.246 (talk) 20:25, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- Calls for us to do our own research, combined with "cuck". Nuff said.
Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:48, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- This was just a social experiment. Seriously though, I am a proud cucksucker. And you can be too. A cucksucker is one who knows that all people calling you cuck are suckers! Let's reclaim this word! 62.212.73.246 (talk) 21:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- How about let's not! ωεαşεζøίɗ
Methinks it is a Weasel 22:49, 11 July 2016 (UTC) - How about we have an article on that suggestion already! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:54, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- I would like to have some statistical evidence to verify the BLM core message...namely that black lives generally seem to matter less to police officers than white lives. Can anyone provide a few links?ImmaculateDeception (talk) 05:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
- How about let's not! ωεαşεζøίɗ
- This was just a social experiment. Seriously though, I am a proud cucksucker. And you can be too. A cucksucker is one who knows that all people calling you cuck are suckers! Let's reclaim this word! 62.212.73.246 (talk) 21:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Recent BoN contributions[edit]
Two BoNs have been trying to insert these contributions to the BLM article. They paint BLM as rabidly anti-Semitic even though most of the sources appear to be right-wing outlets with baseless opinions.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 23:16, 12 July 2016 (UTC) 23:16, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- I am not (I cannot speak for the other user) trying to paint BLM as "rabidly anti-Semitic". That is something Mona Holland did. I just wanted the section on BLM's stance on the 2016 race to remain. Maybe the Antisemitism part should be removed if it cannot be supported by sources. Though I think there may well be Antisemitism in BLM. Have a good day, sir. 107.170.215.131 (talk) 23:20, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- A quick glance at your contributions and your mentioning of a user who doesn't edit here anymore makes me doubt that you are being sincere. The 2016 prez section still exists but you are reinserting claims that BLM has been anti-Semitic towards Sanders.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 23:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC) 23:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- If you can prove that this statement is wrong you can remove it. I am not married to it. But please provide some sort of source for it. Thanks. Death to Antisemitism! 107.170.215.131 (talk) 23:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- That's not how claims work. You need to be the one to provide evidence that this happened, not demand other people provide evidence to disprove what you claimed. Nergali (talk) 23:04, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- I like this new idea for running a wiki. Instead of the claims in the article having sources, there could be a list of sources for all the claims not made, to explain why they're not there. There could even be a recent inactivity page that lists all the articles that have never been edited and don't exist. 94.7.174.20 (talk) 23:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- That's not how claims work. You need to be the one to provide evidence that this happened, not demand other people provide evidence to disprove what you claimed. Nergali (talk) 23:04, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- If you can prove that this statement is wrong you can remove it. I am not married to it. But please provide some sort of source for it. Thanks. Death to Antisemitism! 107.170.215.131 (talk) 23:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Alton Sterling - convicted paedophile, violent gang member[edit]
BLM's new "saint", Alton Sterling, is a convicted paedophile and registered sex offender, also a violent gang member.
Paedophile lives matter? Schizophrenic (talk) 22:02, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Waa Waa paedo! Waa Waa!
- Fuck off. PBFЯЗЭSPДCЗ (talk) 23:06, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- The point is that whether or not the guy deserves to die, the police shouldn't be the ones doing the killing. Is that so hard to understand? CorruptUser (talk) 23:09, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- And why is it hard to understand paedophile lives don't matter? Most people want them dead.Schizophrenic (talk) 23:14, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- People who care about human rights & the rule of law don't. But this is beside the point: Sterling's prior conviction on a sex offence had nothing to do with his shooting by police nor with the BLM reaction to it. ₩€₳$€£ΘĪÐ
Methinks it is a Weasel 23:29, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Why does this Schizophrenic guy want people to be shot in the street by cops? First he states people accused of being criminals - as in not yet prosecuted, so they may be innocent, though that's not the point - should be killed, and now he wants the same thing for people accused of committing sex crimes. Does he just not understand how our judicial system works, or does he just really want people he dislikes to be killed? Nergali (talk) 23:31, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- @Nergali You are missing the point, he was a convicted criminal meaning that he has already been punished. Therefore, time served, case closed.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 23:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC) 23:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- It would make no difference if he was convicted or not, since it had nothing to do with his killing. You can't just shoot a guy & then post-rationalise it based on something that had nothing to do with the incident. Щєазєюіδ
Methinks it is a Weasel 23:59, 14 July 2016 (UTC) - I was referencing his other section on this page, where he talks about people convicted of being criminals should be killed because apparently to him their lives don't matter. Weaseloid is right in that it shouldn't matter if they're convicted or not though, cops shouldn't being killing people in the streets when it is clearly an unnecessary use of force/violence. Nergali (talk) 00:02, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- It would make no difference if he was convicted or not, since it had nothing to do with his killing. You can't just shoot a guy & then post-rationalise it based on something that had nothing to do with the incident. Щєазєюіδ
- @Nergali You are missing the point, he was a convicted criminal meaning that he has already been punished. Therefore, time served, case closed.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 23:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC) 23:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Why does this Schizophrenic guy want people to be shot in the street by cops? First he states people accused of being criminals - as in not yet prosecuted, so they may be innocent, though that's not the point - should be killed, and now he wants the same thing for people accused of committing sex crimes. Does he just not understand how our judicial system works, or does he just really want people he dislikes to be killed? Nergali (talk) 23:31, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- People who care about human rights & the rule of law don't. But this is beside the point: Sterling's prior conviction on a sex offence had nothing to do with his shooting by police nor with the BLM reaction to it. ₩€₳$€£ΘĪÐ
- And why is it hard to understand paedophile lives don't matter? Most people want them dead.Schizophrenic (talk) 23:14, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
OP just hates pedophiles, to the point of wanting them killed (!). Crazy. Why would you hate a group of people like that? Just some inborn psychological disgust I guess. PBfreespace (talk) 04:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- "Carnal Knowledge of a Juvenile" refers to having relations with someone over 13 but below 18, which would put it squarely out of the range of pedophilia (which refers to minors under the age of 12). He was convicted of this when he was the age of 20(which would likely mean the incident occurred when he was 19). In all likelihood he had consenting relations with a girl 3-4 years his junior...over fifteen years ago. If you had a 19 year old daughter who had sex with a 15 year old boy,would you shoot her dead? 209.179.73.59 (talk) 14:47, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Say it isn't so[edit]
Surely this must be bait? Or is that tweet in any way actually connected to BLM? If so, I'm at loss for words. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:00, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
- *cough* Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:37, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- You have a number of people in BLM demanding degrees in Social Justice. Because apparently Liberal Arts is too marketable a degree. That is, they want to spend their whole lives learning to be angry and get a degree in professional protesting. After a certain point, you learn that there are people who attend every protest they can, not because they are angry, but because it's basically like a social club for them. StickySock (talk) 13:38, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- So, does this in any way answer the question about the veracity of the tweet? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 15:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Dunno if it's real, but it is in line with what a number BLM members do. In Albany a group of black women started a fight on a bus (it was 1 am; everyone was drunk), and claimed they were jumped by 20 white guys. BLM staged a bunch of protests, but then the bus released videos of the whole thing, showing that no it was the women. BLM still held another rally for them after.
- Like I said, these are professional protestors that care less about the issue and more about being able to protest. We could reduce crime and inequality by 90% and they'd still be out in the streets protesting. StickySock (talk) 16:17, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for the bus thing? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- On phone. Google "Albany bus incident". StickySock (talk) 16:24, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Huh, crazy stuff... Why would they decide to do this? They look normal and nice, maybe even successful! Likely they called it in just to cover up their own assault, rather than for any far-reaching political goal, it would seem... Still though. Not cool. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- They were almost certainly drunk; they remembered it wrong? IIRC, no one cared and there was no investigation until the women claimed there was a hate crime, so it wasn't to cover up their assault. Be sure to view the actual videos on YouTube.StickySock (talk) 17:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Huh, crazy stuff... Why would they decide to do this? They look normal and nice, maybe even successful! Likely they called it in just to cover up their own assault, rather than for any far-reaching political goal, it would seem... Still though. Not cool. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- On phone. Google "Albany bus incident". StickySock (talk) 16:24, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for the bus thing? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- So, does this in any way answer the question about the veracity of the tweet? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 15:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- You have a number of people in BLM demanding degrees in Social Justice. Because apparently Liberal Arts is too marketable a degree. That is, they want to spend their whole lives learning to be angry and get a degree in professional protesting. After a certain point, you learn that there are people who attend every protest they can, not because they are angry, but because it's basically like a social club for them. StickySock (talk) 13:38, 26 July 2016 (UTC)