Bounty and Bo Winegard drama
Per the last discussion it was made very clear not to put material ruled by the UK high court as not factually accurate into the article. so this page is protected again, because a banned troll came back for the umpteenth time to dump problematic stuff on the page. Discuss. EK (talk) 22:20, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- I have received an email from Smith in the last hour, he tells me he is being impersonated here, and these accounts are not him. His lawyers have told him to not post online and this is someone else trying to stir things up. I am not sure what to make of it, both have claimed to have won the lawsuit and each has their defenders claiming victory on Twitter. The anti-fascists seem to support Smith and the white nationalists support Kirkegaard.
- The court ruled that "pedophile" and "pedophile apologist" were opinions but defamatory. In one of his comments, Emil Kirkegaard wrote "There is another potential reason why it is a good idea to legalize child porn. Some studies show that the availability of porn has reduced rape rates. Since child porn is a subset of porn, one could expect the same thing to happen with it. The causal theory is that when people have access to porn, they jack off to that instead and thus are less horny, and so less likely to rape. This reasoning applies just as well to child porn" . That is a very dangerous talk actually putting in writing he thinks there are good reasons child porn should be made legal. Kirkegaard is a very strange individual he is not a pedophile but he does want to legalize child porn. I have not seen anyone else hold that position. John66 (talk) 23:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- The main point is that anonymous users putting opinions which were ruled to be defamatory into the article is deeply problematic. The lawsuit was won by Smith in the sense that he doesn't have to pay out, he's not getting punishment. But it was also won by Kirkegaard in the sense that the allegations were clearly stated as baseless. It's a matter of what was gained from the exercise by each side.
- As for the argument that certain illegal pornography should be made legal, ye thats certainly something he wrote once but in context it was part of an academic dispute and wasn't express advocacy. There are a lot of people who actively promote this view to the extent that among European Liberals its pretty mainstream now, I wouldn't say its anything unusual.
- I agree that there are two clear sides of the story playing out on twitter, but I'm neither a whitenat or an anti fascist so I haven't bothered getting involved in that interesting dispute. EK (talk) 00:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)