Talk:High speed rail

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This article could use some pictures. Are there any good quality pictures of HSR trains (e.g. the Velaro or the TGV) within reach of RW? (talk) 17:53, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Look on Wikimedia Commons. Anything there can be inline-linked here. Or take out an account and upload your own, you lazy bastard. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 18:13, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Sometimes your sig really contradicts the tone of your posts. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:28, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Let thy grace show, Oh aging hippy with one of the uninitiated who knows not if Wikimedia Commons can be linked. Dost thou not remember when you were but a bunch of numbers searching for a guiding hand and a kind word? (talk) 19:59, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
I took out an account before making my first edit. I was never a BoN. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 20:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────And you also never made errors or had a lack of information? (talk) 20:28, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Sometimes yes, but often the answers are really easy to find. Also, you take things really seriously. Do they not have "jokes" where you come from? Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Well your attitude towards humor appears to be rather harsh as well... Judging from your reverts... Maybe what you call my lack of humor is just another approach to the topic... (talk) 21:09, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Look at these images[edit]

Say what you want about the Kaiser's soldiers, but they sure had a sense of style...

the first train to beat 200 km/h
I have to link to the other image as it is hosted locally at WP and not at commons Avengerofthe BoN (talk) 17:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Why do liberal cucks like trains?[edit]

Because they make them foregt they are not alpha males? — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

Awww, how cute. Alphas wouldn't need to do this weak chickenshit anonymous aggressive posturing to validate their self worth even if they had the time from their exciting lives.  :-) -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 17:05, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Good post! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:06, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Interstate Rail System[edit]

I have an idea. A nationwide HSR network connecting core-based statistical areas (but especially major cities) could be built to help deal with the issues of air travel. -Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 12:05, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

And who would pay for that?
The Interstate Highway System took 35 years. Tax increases over that time period could pay for it. -Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 21:30, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
@Bigs First of all, a national high-speed rail network for the U.S. is impractical. High-speed rail can only compete with air travel for distances of 400 miles (640 km) or less. Only hard-core train enthusiasts would take a high-speed train from Los Angeles to New York City, if it even gets built, which is highly unlikely. It makes more sense to build regional networks, for example, in the Midwest with Chicago as a hub. Nerd (talk) 04:49, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Completely forgot about this. TBH I hate the majority of my internet presence before 2018. 𝔊𝔬𝔞𝔱-𝔈𝔪𝔭𝔢𝔯𝔬𝔯 𝔅𝔦𝔤𝔰 (𝔴𝔬𝔯𝔡𝔰 𝔬𝔣 𝔴𝔦𝔰𝔡𝔬𝔪/𝔞𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔢𝔳𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔰) 04:55, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
@Bigs No worries. We all make mistakes. If you are still interested in this topic, please check out the article, new and improved! Nerd (talk) 04:58, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

this page is still wank[edit]

aside from the very american centric and pretty weak arguments for HSR (which is odd because im sure hsr would be a boon to the US - this section botches it), the insistence than any all arguments against it is by nature 'wingnut' is just bullshit. i dont believe any tried to list legitimate arguments against. i might try to have a stab at making the arguments section less wank, but it would involve deleting the lot and starting from scratch and i'm not sure its worth the drama. AMassiveGay (talk) 18:35, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Does this site have a deletion request without prejudice (i.e. deleting an article without ruling out to write a new one with the same name)?--Klaksozavr (talk) 21:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, or you could just rewrite it section by section without having to go through the AfD business. WilderBicycle 22:08, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, @AMassiveGay, @Klaksozavr, and @Readymade! I do have plans to improve this article and that for Amtrak. Unfortunately, I'm a little short on time right now so I have not done much. I am the one who put up the "outdated" sign. If you guys have time, I suggest moving the US-centric bits to Amtrak, where they belong.
@AMassiveGay High-speed rails would indeed provide an economic boon to the U.S. and various projects have already been proposed (e.g. Chicago Hub), gone ahead (California High-speed Rail and Texas Central Railway) or even completed (Florida Brightline). The Northeastern Corridor will get a new and faster high-speed train, the Avelia Liberty. Nerd (talk) 00:58, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

High-speed trains vs. airlines[edit]

Earlier editors keep claiming that high-speed rail has been decongesting airports. However, if you take a look at the passenger traffic of some of the worlds busiest airportsWikipedia in recent years, this does not seem to be case. Nerd (talk) 00:11, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

In a recent update, I pointed out that high-speed rail in France is not competitive with other modes of transport due to its price. Would not be surprised if this was in the case in other countries as well. (I recently talked to someone who just came back from a vacation in Europe. That person flew everywhere because trains were more expensive. This is, however, anecdotal and so will not be used as a source.) Nerd (talk) 16:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)