Talk:Illegal immigration

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Is there no article for legal immigration?[edit]

I'm interested in immigration policy in general. Immigration redirects here, even though there's links on this page to immigration, hinting that maybe there used to be a regular immigration page?

What about Australia?[edit]

I would have thought that with all of the "boat people" issues and sending them to islands and stuff that's happening in Australia, it would have been mentioned here, especially considering it's one of the big issues for this election. (talk) 05:32, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

45,000 a year sex slaves[edit]

"The Central Intelligence Agency estimates that 45,000 women [over age 18] and CHILDREN [!!] are smuggled into the United States each year with false promises of decent jobs....." That would be 2,250,000 in just the last 50 years! Capitalists are sick for causing this! Men are sick! They think men NEED sex slaves! Klop789 (talk) 03:33, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

@Klop789, not to say that your argument is wrong (I agree), but "2,250,000" assumes that it's been an average of 45,000 for each of the last 50 years, which is unsupportable given the massive changes in the world over the last 50 years. It's also my understanding that not all are sex slaves, although I grant that it's probably few, and also not all traffickers are male; one woman in the news recently is accused of being a trafficker. 2603:8080:BB02:2ECA:5C93:3685:4350:666D (talk) 00:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC).

"Conservative views" section is poorly rationalized and contradictory[edit]

The first sentence of this section reduces white American culture and the desire for those people to preserve an identity as just "white supremacism." The next sentence mentions a book about the issue of illegal immigration and how it affects the native population of the country, which is then called racist with no further comment. No counter-arguments, just the implication that they should be seen as wrong.

Then, two paragraphs down, it says "Such illegal invasion into native lands has actually happened, complete with systematic destruction of native races, customs, social norms, and culture overall" with a link to the destruction of the Native American people, which is included as a "gotcha" for Conservatives somehow instead of being seen as a supporting argument for the previously deemed "racist, xenophobic" belief that foreign cultures could destroy their way of life or replace them in their native land.

So what is this section trying to say? That native Americans were racist "Native Supremacists" who deserved what they got? That it couldn't happen to white Americans and to think that it could makes you a bad person? That it will happen to white Americans but that it's okay because they deserve it for being bad people? — Unsigned, by: 2600:8807:5402:5900:A5B8:B147:65A:4EEC / talk

Immigration pros and cons[edit]

Should there be a discussion of the pros and cons of immigration? 2603:8080:BB02:2ECA:5C93:3685:4350:666D (talk) 00:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC).

Ok, I see that Myths and facts about immigration to the United States seems to cover this. 2603:8080:BB02:2ECA:5C93:3685:4350:666D (talk) 01:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC).