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Talk:Martin Luther King/Archive1

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Since[edit]

Since this is MLK week, let's try to flesh this article out a bit? humanUser talk:Human 07:43, 15 January 2008 (EST) booooooooooooriiiiiiiiiing

some idiot[edit]

Some idiot wrote that racists call it James Earl Ray Day, after his assassin, and there's a footnote, and if you click on it, it just says "We're not linking to it." What the fuck? Do I actually have to explain why that's not acceptable? — Unsigned, by: 99.189.133.227 / talk / contribs (signed by bot) 03:47, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Adulterer[edit]

Is there any reason to believe that he was an adulterer, other than allegations by his enemies? It's not enough that the section says it doesn't detract from his legacy. It needs to be clear that he was merely accused of adultery, assuming the section even needs to exist.--"Shut up, Brx." 08:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Read Abernathy's book. When we're done talking about the adultery, which doesn't matter, we can talk about the more problematic issue of King's plagiarized dissertation. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 14:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Abernathy said the "affairs" were emotional rather than physical ([1]), and though parts of King's dissertation were plagiarized, his university has not revoked his doctorate because he still "makes an intelligent contribution to scholarship." Beyond that, the only discussion is to the extent of his plagiarism, and the implications of it. His affairs, while they may have been inappropriate, don't really constitute hypocrisy.--"Shut up, Brx." 15:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Quite frankly, he could have plagiarised his entire dissertation and slept around with every woman in town and it wouldn't make a ha'puth of difference. He was a great man who led a generation. Without him the civil rights movement would still have happened but he was very much one of the focal points and the "I have a dream" speech one of the defining moments of the 20th century.
The fact that the CIA, and others, felt they had to attack the man shows how important he was. As the old saying goes, you know when you're making a difference, they start shooting at you. Innocent Bystander (talk) 16:07, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Goodpost.gif Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 16:20, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but there's no point saying that he was an adulterer if he wasn't. It's a lot like JAQing off. The section assumes too much, and I'd like it changed or removed. I've removed it before but it was put back in.--"Shut up, Brx." 16:12, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
It's there because it was part of a two pronged attack on MLK by the powers that be. I've altered the opening para to try and reflect this. Innocent Bystander (talk) 16:37, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

For some reason, the article comes across as though it has been sanitized. You get the impression that the author is holding back information, or deliberately putting a positive spin on every aspect of King's life. The article at Snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp) is much more compelling and interesting to read than this tepid punch-pulling biography from RationalWiki. Slings and Arrows (talk) 01:19, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

List of priests that get rational wiki's approval?[edit]

Not a legitimate enough article idea being as the list would be rather short; however I'm just wondering if there are any other religious officials than Dr. King that Rationalwiki actually approves of. Not many priests endorse communism, Dr. Kings views appear quite unique for a priest, unfortunately. Exiled Encyclopedist (talk) 15:37, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Red-smearing King[edit]

CoerruptUser wishes to include a claim that MLK associated with a "filthy commie?" Does the community wish to indulge this continuation of the red-smearing of MLK?---Mona- (talk) 22:28, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I have never quite understood the abject horror americans have with all things seen as communist änd/or socialist that it becomes a massive slur to have known a 'commie' AMassiveGay (talk) 22:32, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
He was close friends with Stanley LevisonWikipedia's W.svg, who was a known communist. Both RFK and JFK tried to get King to disassociate with Levison, which is a big reason WHY there was the massive wiretapping campaign in the first place. It's a pretty big piece of history, and kind a big piece of evidence that King wasn't conservative. It's not meant as a slur. Feel free to rewrite it in a more "pleasing" manner; the edit button is right there, but don't just delete anything you don't like. CorruptUser (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Done.---Mona- (talk) 22:35, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
There, that's better. No need to fight with everyone all the time on everything. CorruptUser (talk) 22:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Uh-huh.---Mona- (talk) 22:39, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

"Conservative or establishment liberal"? You guys are fucking dense. He was a socialist, and for good reason. Liberal moderates won't pay attention at all to your suffering without some militant opposition to their precious status quo. And because the War in Vietnam was an imperialist project. Withoutaname (talk) 21:16, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Uh, what? Did you just look at the section titles and not read the article? The section with that title is all about how he was neither a conservative nor an establishment liberal. The article quotes him as saying he was "socialistic". --Ymir (talk) 22:33, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Yeah but there wasn't any talk of his support for worker control over the means of production or his anti-imperialism or any of the nominally socialist political viewpoints beyond his declaration. Also I'm not fond of liberal whitewashing. Withoutaname (talk) 22:39, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Why not edit it?--Owlman (talk) (mail) 22:50, 19 May 2016 (UTC) 22:50, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Page move[edit]

Since his name was actually Martin Luther King, Jr. (which many people forget), objections to moving the page to that name? --Ymir (talk) 22:47, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

No point. We don't have an article on MLK Sr. & I doubt we need one. €₳$£ΘĪÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:40, 19 May 2016 (UTC)