Talk:The Fall: The Insanity of the Ego in Human History and the Dawning of A New Era

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Move and re-write?[edit]

If this is on-mission only because of the book, I suggest moving the article to The Fall: The Insanity of the Ego in Human History and the Dawning of A New Era (or simply The Fall (book)) and modifying it accordingly to deal with the claims in the book. If someone cares, ISBN 978-1905047208. --ZooGuard (talk) 19:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

And so as not to confuse it with a much better book of the same title. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 01:36, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Steve Taylor[edit]

Tell me this isn't the same Steve Taylor, Christian rock musician. Secret Squirrel (talk) 03:02, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Not the same guy. The author of The Fall is a lecturer in psychology in the U.K., website here. The Christian rock musician Steve Taylor is from Denver, Colorado. Secret Squirrel (talk) 03:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

The original author of the article made the same mistake - I removed the link because I found the connection suspicious.--ZooGuard (talk) 07:38, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Taylor cites parapsychologist Rupert Sheldrake as evidence.[edit]

I was thumbing through this book's bibliography section on and I found the following citations: Sheldrake, R. (1981) A New Science of Life. London: Blonde and Briggs. Sheldrake, R. (1991) The Rebirth of Nature. London: Rider.

Excerpt from note 52 of section 5. The Ego Explosion: “However, there is a growing consensus that the Neo-Dawrinian view is too narrow and reductive to fully account for evolution, and that other – possibly as yet unknown – factors must be involved in it. See for example, Sheldrake, 1991; Capra, 1997; Harman & Sahtouris, 1998; Rose & Rose, 2000.”

I didn't even bother looking for what other pseudo-science may have been cited to back up Taylor's hypothesis after I found these gems.

This page could be expanded to include a catalog of all the pseudo-scientific "evidence" that gets cited in this book. Given that Taylor thinks Sheldrake is a credible source and that his own specialty is Transpersonal Psychology its probably loaded with all kinds of mystical BS. Is it any surprise that all of the positive reviews are coming from spiritualists? — Unsigned, by: Le Paradox / talk / contribs