Talk:Trans-exclusionary radical feminism

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Sex worker exclusionary radical feminism[edit]

What is this section doing in the article??? I know the followers overlap but the subject matter seems to be entirely different. Why can't this be its own page? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:58, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Because they're very often the same people, speaking of both in closely related breaths. But if you think there's material for a separate article .. - David Gerard (talk) 09:45, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

coinage of TERF[edit]

[1] - David Gerard (talk) 09:42, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Done. Zero (talk - contributions) 17:53, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Missing word/s[edit]

In the TERF as a slur section, the second paragraph starts, "While TERFs can extremist examples of promoting violence". Is this supposed to be "While TERFs can cite/provide extremist examples of promoting violence" or something else? Zeno (talk) 17:44, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

I noticed that too. The sentence is very confusing as written as I'm not quite sure what was intended to be stated, and removing it doesn't harm the section it's in. Regards, Cosmikdebris (talk) 13:43, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@FuzzyCatPotato added it and might be able to clarify. CowHouse (talk) 13:55, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
there was this one example of a trans activist hitting a TERF a while ago that they were all tweeting about at the time. remove the clause, nothing of importance is lost 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 20:29, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Shoe0nhead[edit]

I think that using a video from Shoe0nhead is a poor idea, since it only gives terfs an excuse to say 'SEEWE TOLD YOU RATIONALWIKI WAS ANTI-FEMINIST'. Besides, I just don't like the idea of giving her views. I think that Contra's video would be better. --31.49.114.175 (talk) 08:06, 23 February 2018 (UTC)-

Without having seen (nor knowing anything about) the video to which you refer, I personally would have no objections. —Kazitor, pending 11:41, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Here is a link to the video. --171.33.193.136 (talk) 12:16, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
@FuzzyCatPotato, since you added the Shoe0nHead video, what are your thoughts? CowHouse (talk) 08:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
@CowHouse We shouldn't give a shit what TERFs think. This page both castigates Lapine for being anti-feminist and lauds her for being pro-trans. Anyone reasonable should see that. If it's not clear, I suggest editing the tone. Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 19:42, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

this article doesn't even touch upon the central reason that TERFS even exist[edit]

they gender the way a third wave feminist would define "gender roles", so a social construct that oppresses people based on their biological sex. and they believe that the oppression of women or whatever comes from their biological sex and not gender identity, which is why you would still classify something like abortion rights, or FGM, or how they selectively aborted female fetuses in China that created an underground of sex slavery and shit as feminist issues. they aren't gender essentialsts and they think that transgender people are, because the criteria used for diagnosing gender dysphoria is based upon rejecting clothing or toys of you "gender" and since most children diagnosed in this way end up being gay or lesbian, plus shit like in Iran where they kill gay people who don't medically transition because their homosexuality is gender non-conforming but their heterosexuality after transitioning isn't. I don't agree with most of these things myself, but saying "transphobia" and leaving it at that does a disservice to the article. radical feminism is the norm outside of countries like the United States and the United Kingdom, so it just seems ridiculous to me that the analysis is so shallow. it feels like whoever wrote this hasn't read a book on the subject or even just argued with one of them on the internet. UNO (talk) 12:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC)