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That's just a lazy cause-and-effect assumption; it's like thinking that there must be a god that makes it rain, and the same type of thought processes govern both.

An American Nihilist (talk)08:10, 19 February 2012

rain is simple, rais is easy. i can make it rain with a garden hose.

the universe is more, the universe is complex, the universe is chaotic, the universe is... beautiful and amazing.

il'Dictator Mikal08:12, 19 February 2012

...Which exactly proves what I just said. If you lived 10,000 years ago, you'd probably be saying the same thing about rain that you're saying about the universe. It's sort of a strange, pseudo-reversal god-of-the-gaps thought process -- as we learn more about the world around us, god (or a 'higher power', whatever the fuck that means) retreats to bigger and bigger things, things we don't understand.

And seriously, how does you seeing the universe as complex, chaotic, beautiful and amazing prove anything? If you thought it was ugly and horrifying, what would you think then?

Nihilist (talk)08:19, 19 February 2012

Do i say you have to believe me? Do i say "its 6k years old?" do i say "evolution isnt true, the big bang isnt true, X or y isnt true?" No. I haven't. Atleast not in this discussion. The fuck does it matter to you what nearly atheistic belief i might or might not have?

il'Dictator Mikal08:24, 19 February 2012

And that's how I think I know that you yourself realize what you think is bullshit.

An American Nihilist (talk)08:29, 19 February 2012