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A dialogue with he of which you will know

Special:Contributions/MrOrganic is not who u think EK (talk) 11:12, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

(Inb4 Tobias dumps a wall of text) I know it's technically misidentified, but honestly it doesn't matter who exactly it was since they definitely merited a block, and I can't be asked to relitigate a drama from 2017. Template:Emoji — Dysk (contribs) 11:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
@EK — Dysk (contribs) 11:55, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
David Gerard knows who it is. Emails were sent when that "Smith brother conspiracy theory" page was made and he quickly deleted it. The problem is Abd/Mike are known to create impersonator accounts, double impersonations (accounts attacking themselves while impersonating an impersonator) and well... it's just confusing and insane. But the purpose of that account was doxing. Lomax has admitted to using accounts with "Smith" in the title on RationalWiki, see for example Some random Smith. He originally lied and denied that account was him, but since the evidence was so conclusive (Gerard identified his writing style) he's now changed his mind. Tobias (talk) 12:48, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
@D Lomax is lying on Reddit already and disputing your hiding of edits "It did not contain 'Personal or potentially identifying information,' as you can see was the suppression reason." Which to me is just an acknowledgement that MrOrganic is him since he didn't see that account as doxing, when it obviously was doing exactly that and I had to complain to Gerard to delete what that user was posting.Tobias (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Lomax is also still lying and claiming he was unfairly banned because he was not Cooped. However there was a Coop made and all sysops there voted to ban him. So he lies pretty much about everything.Tobias (talk) 13:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Oliver always lies. Rubber Room (talk) 13:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Erm no, that's all you do Mike. I even gave you a chance on your article talk yet you instead resorted to creating more troll socks because you know you have no argument and are an admitted liar.Tobias (talk) 13:35, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
On Gab you're still lying calling me a Marxist or Antifa. After 6 years you've never provided any evidence for those false claims (impersonating me on fake accounts like you always do claiming to be a Marxist don't count).Tobias (talk) 13:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Funny how it's always you whose the Marxist Antifa and not the real one lmao. Regarding the page, that page did contain personally identifying information, but I don't personally think it was a Mikemikev sock given that accounts other edits. It could be Abd as you say, or it could be that Viharo person, or another third party *ahem*. Like I said, I don't think it matters a lot. I gave up reading Reddit, but I read what was mentioned about it on the Cold Fusion site so I can see why you acted on it now. — Dysk (contribs) 13:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

For clarification Abd is mistaken about doxing. In 2017 there was an anti-dox policy on my name. Kirkegaard was banned in 2017 for doxing me (among other things) so that's why MrOrganic's doxing was deleted by Gerard after I sent an email complaint. Contrary to Abd's claims there was little public information about me on the internet in 2017 (aside from a troll page written by Mike on Enc Dramatica). Back then I didn't really come public about my identity on RationalWiki which is why that anti-dox policy existed to protect me. I only identified myself from 2018 after Kirkegaard had gone around the internet writing various defamatory pages about me, hence that year I was on RWW and created a page about myself to counter the lies Kirkegaard was writing about me. RWW was though shut down and I don't have any further interest in trying to counter lies about me on websites, for example I've never bothered with rebutting the VDARE hit-piece and I deleted an old response I made to Kirkegaard.Tobias (talk) 14:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
People are mad now that I suppressed stuff doxxing you and not various edits doxxing others. Aw man, I can't do everything all at once. — Dysk (contribs) 14:09, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Michael Coombs and Abd both have articles here, so its not possible to dox them as all their information is already public. As for was their information public before their article creations: yes. Mike prior to his article here was already infamous for his trolling and a google search of his name produced lots of pages about him before the RationalWiki article; he's got a Kiwi Farms thread that runs around 680 pages with 700,000 views. Lomax also has a visible online presence, owns his own website and has written various autobiographical pages about himself across the internet. This was quite the opposite of me prior to 2018.Tobias (talk) 14:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
A final point: both these idiots Mike & Abd have tried several times to create an article about me here (although they got quickly deleted for being low quality and personal attacks), yet they moan I've had some involvement in editing their articles. Tobias (talk) 15:12, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Well pretty good quality compared to the normal screed. :p I did suppress those a while back along the page Mike or someone wrote about me, which got deleted pretty quick. — Dysk (contribs) 15:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Discussion here about Smith brother conspiracy theory. Lomax is still claiming User:John66 is somehow a "Smith brother". No evidence ever presented.Tobias (talk) 15:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Ah but we all know that John66 is acktushally a sockpuppet of Bongolian. /s — Dysk (contribs) 15:43, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Lomax is still blatantly lying on Reddit. As I explained above, there was an anti-dox policy on my name in 2017 hence anyone who mentioned my name, or surname was blocked and had their comment deleted to protect me. When two people accuse each either other of being liars - a 3rd party can easily check the truth and Lomax is clearly the liar e.g. there were dozens of accounts blocked for mentioning merely my surname in 2017. According to Lomax's insane story I created an article here to dox myself (that I then emailed Gerard to delete for harassment). I honestly believe lying to him is a compulsion and he might not know he's doing it because its so habitual for him.Tobias (talk) 18:31, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Yet more lies from Lomax (all this guy does is lie, lie and lie more...): "googling 'Smith brothers conspiracy theory' and you will find interesting stuff" -- No all you find is his crazy blog filled with lies; page 2 of google search shows "John66 – Cold Fusion Community coldfusioncommunity.net/". Googling Smith brothers conspiracy theory and you only get the lies he writes on his blog, with the exception of the deletion request to the old RW article. Virtually no one else is typing about this nonsense except him.Tobias (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps that is the case now, but it is my understanding that at the time Rome Viharo was the main proponent of this idea and although I have my ideas, it is widely believed that it was Viharo who wrote the RationalWiki page on the Smith brothers conspiracy theory. — Dysk (contribs) 20:58, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Possibly. My main point is its bizarre to claim I created that article since I sent an email complaint to get it removed & I didn't want my name mention on this wiki back then. Notice as well Lomax presents zero evidence for his wild allegations, yet is now creating Reddit threads to spread these lies about me. This is what I've had to put up with from this vicious troll now for years.Tobias (talk) 21:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between these idiots. For example on some accounts you blocked as "Abd/Mike" and I've also confused these two, or if we add RV or another possible troll, three; Lomax then latches onto this and screams on his blog "I'M A PROVEN LIAR!!!" etc when I misidentify his for Mike's sockpuppet or vice-versa. The reality is they're both very similar creating countless sockpuppets here and engaging in creating fake accounts and impersonations.Tobias (talk) 21:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @D view his latest insanity and lies here:

The most obvious, prominent deception on ED was this edit, 15:10, 4 October 2018 summary (octo is mikemikev latest impersonation account https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User:Octo)

What he doesn't of course quote is what immediately preceded that edit which gives the real context:

Revision as of 19:57, 3 October 2018 (view source) MrStrong (I'm not Mikemikev. This nutcase has been impersonating me for years, and now claims I'm him probably ashamed of his insane internet history)

If you view the edit Mikemikev made I was responding to here, he claimed I'm Michael Coombs/Mikemikev and then attempted to blame his entire deranged internet history onto me. My response to that was to just troll him back, i.e. if he's absurdly claiming I'm Mikemikev, I'll claim he was one of my RationalWiki accounts. It's a joke. But of course Lomax being a pathological liar doesn't quote any of this and deliberately distorts the context to now claim I try to blame my accounts onto Mikemikev. Yawn.Tobias (talk) 22:28, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

You know, I was going to complain that you were writing more replies before I had even responded, but then I noticed that indirectly you are talking to Abd on his blog. Have fun. Smiley.gif — Dysk (contribs) 22:59, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Walls of text that are gibberish. Notice he didn't respond about his latter distortion of the MrStrong comment and he won't comment on Mikemikev's edit where he tried to blame his entire internet history onto me, instead I'm now falsely said to be "Blaming it all on Mikemikev" when I've never done that, ever. Any neutral observer who checks the sources above can see Lomax is a very dishonest person.Tobias (talk) 01:01, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
This made me laugh: "has admittedly been creating articles on people for years, full of defamation"[citation needed] No evidence is ever presented for this lie and you've seen for yourself how Emil Kirkegaard also repeats this lie (out of hundreds of article creations I've only ever been criticised by 2 or 3 people of the lunatic-fringe, two of them are alt-right; Lomax in contrast stands for nothing but harassment and changes his political views in order who he is attacking).Tobias (talk) 01:11, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

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Lomax writes:

[Smith] accuses Raider Fan of being Wyatt, not Mikemikev.

This is based on the evidence Michael D. Suarez aka JuniusThaddes provided RaiderFan (an impersonation of me) was Wyatt:

"RaiderFan is Merkel. Look at the timeline: "RaiderFan claims Brian Ruhe is Jewish] (06:50, 29 January 2017). DiamondDisc1 blocks RaiderFan (07:18, 29 January 2017). Merkel picks up where RaiderFan left off (01:14, 30 January 2017).Also, RaiderFan's userpage fits Wyatt's profile. The userpage mentions glyphosate, and Wyatt spent considerable time editing Metapedia's and Rightpedia's Monsanto article: JuniusThaddeus (talk) 12:12, 9 March 2018 (UTC)"

Yes its not only Mikemikev who goes around the internet impersonating me on fake accounts. Mike's friend from Rightpedia Wyatt is as deranged as Mike and created several accounts using pseudonyms I've used elsewhere while either pretending to be me, or trying to parody me and typing stupid things.Tobias (talk) 03:10, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Wyatt later (allegedly) gave up his neo-Nazism and started attacking Rightpedia while pretending to be a communist/Antifa (although he simultaneously holds his old Nazi beliefs and likely has a personality disorder). You can read about him here, another literally insane person.Tobias (talk) 03:17, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Lomax falsely claims I/or a "Smith brother" (since he still believes in that conspiracy theory) own the following accounts:

AntifaGuy. Anti racist skinhead. Nick Lowles Fan

These are all blatantly Mikemikev. Mike's obsession is impersonating/trolling Nick Lowles and still is obsessed with Antifa. I have zero interest in these things. Mike only 2 days ago was again trolling Lowles on his Gab comments: "This treasonous Soros funded cunt's entire MO is smearing patriots." To anyone who looks into Mike's internet history will see an obsessiveness with Lowles and Antifa, not me. Who does Lomax think he is fooling?Tobias (talk) 03:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I think Mike in his email called you an Antifa didn't he? The accounts with Antifa in name are obviously his.Tobias (talk) 03:55, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
@D I appreciate allowing me to respond here, but I won't be leaving any more comments. Above is more than enough. And Troll. Lomax will just ignore everything I write for his own lies and delusions so there's not really any point in wasting more time rebutting him.Tobias (talk) 03:51, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
I see Oliver is still blaming all of his socks on me. Everyone knows this now, it just gets boring. If Oliver says something, assume the opposite. How does it feel that the only people that tolerate your shit are the anti-British extreme-left? They use you as a vicious dog. Sad. 10:11, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
An Gof time. :/ — Dysk (contribs) 10:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
You know what we do with rabid dogs. 82.132.246.17 (talk) 10:17, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Mike's absolutely correct: he's blamed his socks onto me for so long that other people now repeat his lies without fact-checking. Lance Welton laughably thinks I'm an "SJW Antifa" after reading all of Mikemikev's fake accounts and impersonations of me, like above. These people know absolutely nothing about my real politics, but copy Mikemikev. I then occasionally get Nazis email me abuse claiming I'm a far-left or working for Hope not Hate after reading Mikemikev's lies and impersonations. As I said above, any 3rd party source can easily check the evidence to see all those accounts are Mikemikev who has the obsession with Antifa and Nick Lowles and Mike regularly impersonates communists/Antifa here, most recently as User:Glamour_Sickle -- view the user boxes on that page. Tobias (talk) 13:06, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
I've never created accounts pretending to be an antifa/communist here, positions I don't hold, nor am interested in -- only Mike does that who is obsessed with these things. Is Mikemikev now trying to blame his 1000th sock User:Glamour_Sickle onto me? Tobias (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Anyone can see you spend all of your time writing sickeningly dishonest smear pieces on scholars who depart from the cultural-Marxist Boasian "equality" pseudoscience which has monopolised Western academia. You take delight when their careers are ruined. You are a textbook case of an antifa activist. Your denials have less value than diarrhoea, you're a pathological liar, who accuses everyone else of being a pathological liar, naturally. If there was any justice in the world you'd be rotting in the bottom of a ditch, you nasty little shut-in bastard. 109.144.221.151 (talk) 14:05, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── In a way we are all activists here, promoting our own pet views on the world. The issue is probably that what you describe as cultural-Marxism is actually the majority viewpoint, recognized by the majority of academia as being correct, and that what you and the people with articles here promote is a form of pseudoscience by these standards. Also you are fucking rude mate. — Dysk (contribs) 14:46, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

And it's the majority viewpoint because anyone who dissents from it gets fired. You seriously think Australian Aborigines have the same intelligence as the Japanese? Are you insane? Why because of "genetic variation within groups" and "clines". Is your viewpoint the majority view? Why do you think so? Is Rationalwiki your source? Also LMAO at "the majority view" being "science". You're a fucking ignoramus, with a very big mouth. 109.144.221.151 (talk) 14:50, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
I staunchly oppose so-called Boasianism. Mikemikev again is lying about me; all he does is lie. For starters, the Boasians believed in race. I don't, I've spent 7 years here refuting racialism pseudoscience. View the Wikipedia criticism of Boasianism: "Boasian anthropology was also critiqued for its acceptance of race as a valid biological category." Ironically, it is Mikemikev's views that have much more in common with Boasianism than me. He argues race is a valid biological category; I don't.Tobias (talk) 14:55, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
@Mikemikev I wouldn't personally go as far as to use RationalWiki as a serious source for science. However, I would argue that the difference in measured intelligence between cultures is largely based on societal influences such as education and culture. I would also say that in this context the importance of genetics is highly overrated, since genetic differences generally make very little difference to mental attributes, and the genetic differences between ethnic groups are not necessarily linked to the genes that do affect mental development, except perhaps coincidentally. — Dysk (contribs) 15:00, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Mike, tell Bob BellearWikipedia's W.svg, Australia's first aboriginal judge, that. Just saying. Dr. Ox quack specialist 15:01, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

"You would say" what are you the Oracle of Delphi? Nobody cares about your fucking announcements. Why would you say that? You're an absolute ignoramus and you know almost nothing about the matter in question. Just like all the moronic "academics" that sign letters parroting the "majority view". You're just saying whatever's socially expedient, you have no integrity, no rationality actually. You're a fucking sheep. I wouldn't mind but this racial-Marxism is absolutely destructive to human civilization (I know you imagine you appear to be a "good person" for your "equality" statements). And the hostile tribe that bought your media and universities know that. 109.144.221.151 (talk) 15:05, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Someone forgot to take the happy pill today... Dr. Ox quack specialist 15:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Mike just misrepresents and straw mans what I've been saying for past 7 years. Nowhere have I ever argued for "equality", "Marxism" etc. All I've said is race is not a valid biological construct (it isn't as explained on racialism article.)Tobias (talk) 15:17, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
I find Mike's comment about sheep and "parroting views" amusing. All he does himself is parrot alt-right talking points and use their memes; there's nothing individualist or free-thinking about his mindset. His Gab account is hardly distinguishable to another Nazi/white nationalist. Tobias (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── "You take delight when their careers are ruined" -- I'm not to blame for Gerhard Meisenberg losing his job (twice), the sacking of Noah Carl, nor the closing down of the London Conference on Intelligence etc. The fact someone reads my RationalWiki articles that criticise these crackpots and then decide to campaign against them, doesn't mean I ruined their careers. I've always pointed out I had no involvement with the open letter signed by hundreds of academics that led to Carl losing his job. Tobias (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

You're at least partly to blame you treasonous worm. And you'll pay for it. 82.132.237.157 (talk) 18:01, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
I think most of this comes down to ideological differences, which don't really seem possible to reconcile. All this talk about parroting views and moronic academics is simply obscuring the core disagreement. — Dysk (contribs) 18:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Lol. These people he's suddenly defending even laugh at him and think he's insane. Kirkegaard banned Mike from his OpenPsych forum and has described him on Twitter as a "far-right crazy person". People who share his views want nothing to do with him and think he's a lolcow.Tobias (talk) 18:24, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Liar. 82.132.187.243 (talk) 07:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
* Mikemikev banned on OpenPsych
* Kirkegaard describing Mikemikev as a "well known troll"
* Kirkegaard described you as crazy on Twitter back in 2016 or 2017. That tweet is probably archived somewhere, I once saw it.
* You're banned from about a dozen white nationalist, Nazi and "race realist" websites: Metapedia, Anthroscape, Stumble Inn, The Beer Barrel, Right Stuff, The Goyim Know, Stormfront etc. Your reputation is rock bottom among people who share your political beliefs Mike. Why lie? Tobias (talk) 09:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Like a buffoon you're suddenly defending Kirkegaard/OpenPsych just as a method to attack me, despite even they consider you a troll and lunatic.Tobias (talk) 09:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Lomax blaming Mikemikev socks onto me

Lomax keeps falsely accusing me of owning blatant Mikemikev socks. Shall I block them? Or just leave them? The latest is Saxton. Lomax's claim I own that account is quite amusing since its first edit(s) were about "Gerhard D. Wassermann" someone I've never even heard of before.Tobias (talk) 17:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

My advice would be not to touch them, it actually makes it look more like they are yours if you do. Nothing wrong with hammering his new accounts as they pop up to spam though. — Dysk (contribs) 19:13, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I'll leave them. I now see he's blaming all of Mikemikev socks on Reddit onto me as well, even where Mike is impersonating me as an Antifa. This seems to be his new trolling: blame all of Mikemikev's socks onto me. He'll probably next claim I'm @Mikemikev on Gab.Tobias (talk) 19:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Remember also the accounts I complained about on hereditarianism and Eric Turkheimer talk and even created a Coop for. According to Lomax's blog, he's now claiming those are also me. I'm apparently almost everyone here, even accounts I've blocked or debated.Tobias (talk) 19:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Abd hasn't dropped dead yet? Weird. Dr. Ox quack specialist 20:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
He's a full-time committed stalker. Now has 87 (!) articles about me on his website. His website is named coldfusioncommunity, but nearly the whole website is about me and little about cold fusion. Tobias (talk) 20:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Old man needs a new hobby. Dr. Ox quack specialist 20:58, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Has said he has heart disease, cancer and other medical issues. Don't think he will be alive in 3 or 4 years. So everything he's doing is pointless. Tobias (talk) 21:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Hmm, that's enough speculation on that thank you very much. Let's show some respect here. — Dysk (contribs) 21:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's not that easy to find your way around that site. The 87 articles we are most interested in are filed under Anglo Pyramidologist. However by my count there are approximately 940 unrelated articles, some of which are about Cold Fusion. These are all arranged under subcategories. There's about 240 articles focused on things surrounding Andrea Rossi for example. — Dysk (contribs) 21:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes but note the "other" articles often mention my name. Here's Lomax talking about some guy called Malcolm Kendrick on a blog post filed under another subcategory; half way through his ramblings - I'm mentioned when I have nothing to do with Kendrick. In fact there's over a thousand words of nonsense posted about me on these random people I've never even heard of. He then falsely accuses me of posting on Kendrick's blog. Like I said, I'm literally everywhere and everyone according to him. Paranoid schizophrenia? Or some form of psychosis at the very least.Tobias (talk) 21:30, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Well in truth you feature heavily in Abds post 2010 writings because you feature in the incidents that got Abd kicked off Wikipedia and subsequently here. There's a lot of past interaction, even if you ignore the confusing maelstrom of impersonation and sockpuppetry largely involving third party actor(s). I will say though, you are very quick to assume people have mental illnesses, but it isn't the case people just do things you don't like because they are literally nuts, but normally because they have their own interests to pursue. — Dysk (contribs) 22:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Lomax blamed me for his WMF global ban when I had nothing to do with it, rather (as a Wikiversity admin told him): "Your long term activity at Wikiversity shows a persistent pattern of long term disruption that has been going on for the past SEVEN YEARS!". So admins already knew he had been trolling and causing problems for many years, they just had enough of him when he began harassing me by filing fake sockpuppet investigations (exactly what Abd is doing now he did on Wikiversity, he falsely accused me of owning a bunch of accounts there.) Admins told him to stop, but he didn't listen. His key method of harassment is to falsely accuse people of owning accounts they don't own because even though he knows he's lying, the accusations he makes (even though false) still stick. Tobias (talk) 22:20, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@John66 also has a section: "Elsewhere I show strong evidence that John66/Skeptic from Britain is Smith, and that when Smith was deciding to abandon Wikipedia". No evidence ever presented for these claims. I know for a fact I'm not John66 and that isn't a family member.Tobias (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2019 (UTC) ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @D Final point about this drama that actually might be productive - is it possible Reddit admins of WikiinAction can see IPs? If so, then its most likely Mikemikev exposed his IP address while creating socks there. We know his IP(s) or at least the IP range he uses (although he sometimes uses TOR) i.e. in the last few days he's had many Ips blocked, another only a few hours ago (block log). An admin can then just compare the Ips or IP range we know is definitely his to the disruption and spam on WikinAction.Tobias (talk) 01:03, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Nope, Reddit doesn't do IPs. And not all the Reddit trolling is Mikemikev either, although I am not about to speculate on how many people are involved. — Dysk (contribs) 09:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sometimes, Oliver, it's best to just let go and move on, you're not doing yourself any favors in continuing this feud of yours. Dr. Ox quack specialist 10:02, 15 May 2019 (UTC)