User talk:Bicycle Wheel/2012

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Hello! Ty^Annoy 19:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Totnes? Blue (pester) 19:59, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Yup! And a Ty welcome! Some things never change. Sophie (talk) 20:02, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

This is so cool. Hugs and a big welcome back! Blue (is useful) 20:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I found a mop! Ty^Annoy 20:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

and I hit you with it! :D Sophie (talk) 20:10, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Fuck You! Great to see you're back! P-Foster Talk "Watched Mad Men thinking it was supposed to be a sit-com. Found it disappointing." 21:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Can't get rid of me, can you? But now that bricks, mara and MC have all pissed off it's looking like a bearable place again. I won't be doing here much as I'm studying to be a counsellor, but I'll come and drop the odd seventies comedy reference, waffle about tea and correct my own typos every now and then. Sophie (talk) 21:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Woo-hoo! Welcome back. You haven't missed a thing - we've just been killing time and having block wars, awaiting your return. --PsyGremlinHable! 04:07, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, it's about time you show your face back around here. The Wiki just wasn't the same while you were gone. Like there was some void to be filled.... Recklessly Noise Punk ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 13:34, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Being a snake

Given that the wiki is full of colors, plays, ancient emperors, tyrants and food items, being a snake is pretty mundane. Copperhead^Hisssssss 00:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't call a snake that could type mundane :) Sophie^{because liberals} 09:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Spellcheck is a godsend. Typing by banging your head on a keyboard leads to interesting results. Copperhead^Hisssssss 22:58, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I know, I banged my head on the keyboard many times when I was at Conservapedia. Sophie^{because liberals} 23:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Hagger

Am I missing something? Why such a long block? Cow...Hammer^time! 19:23, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

As an old aspie virgin fascist authoritarian cuntwikipedian, I tend to shoot first and ask questions later at the names Hagger, Grawp and Willy on wheels, all longstanding troublemakers there and elsewhere. Did I err? Sophie^{because liberals} 19:27, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Well I guess I was unaware of the history of that name. I see you've changed the block settings, so we'll see if they end up causing trouble here. Cow...Hammer^time! 19:35, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Copy edit

Hi, Sophie. Can You go through my recent contributions and fix everything that is needed to be fixed, 'cause, English is not my native language? --Max Sterling (talk) 08:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Done. incidentally, the problems there aren't the worst. A couple of years ago, the whole Farsi (the language of Iran) Wikipedia was locked by the Wikimedia foundation because it had been taken over by a political faction who twisted everything to suit their own views.

Thanks. I did'nt know that. Had i sait they were worst of south slavic? --Max Sterling (talk) 15:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

It's one of those unwritten laws of the internet: However bad they are on your part of the internet, things are much worse in some other part. Sophie^{because liberals} 16:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint you

My block log. I didn't say I was leaving, and I won't leave, not completely, anyway. I said I was promoted, which originally referred to being relieved of the sysop bit, which was a nuisance, requiring me to engage in inane blocks, and also to take more responsibility for the site. Then I've actually been blocked (thanks, by the way, I'd thank you by blocking you equally, but that duty now devolves on others), so I was limited to editing my Talk page for a bit. As the blocks expired or were removed, I'm still a RationalWiki editor, until I earn a higher position.

The higher position would be that I'd do whatever I please, whenever I please, with or without log-in, with or without any such nuisances. Got it? --Abd (talk) 21:13, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

The higher position would be that I'd do whatever I please, whenever I please, with or without log-in, with or without any such nuisances. Got it? ~ hm, nah. i dont see that working on any website ever--il'Dictator Mikal 21:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Worked on Wikipedia, what makes you think it wouldn't work here, on a site with fewer resources? I documented it for a time, if you are interested. --Abd (talk) 21:27, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

The unbusinesslike^{man of business} 21:34, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

much easier to do as you please on wikipeia then a site where the RC page doesnt change ever half a second--il'Dictator Mikal 21:38, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Whatevs, I'll just revert your mainspace stuff until you go away. DG and Tweenk can pick out the useful bits at their leisure. Sophie^{because liberals} 21:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Peaches

Admit it: you're glad to remember this part of yourself. No one should live without the peaches song. Erk (talk) 21:18, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

at least it wasn't Teenage Dirtbag. Sophie^{because liberals} 21:52, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Any other songs I should try to work into my articles? All the Small Things? ERK! | Complaints Hotline 21:57, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

AAAAGGHHH! Not Blink 182!!!! NOT EVER!!!! Sophie^{because liberals} 22:01, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

You seem to have a lot of musical hot buttons. Have you spoken to anyone about this? ERK! | Complaints Hotline 22:03, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Anything post-1994 is shite, except trip-hop and a couple of REM albums. It's just one big hot button. Sophie^{because liberals} 22:06, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, in my defense, I never claimed to like any of this stuff, you're just assuming. ERK! | Complaints Hotline 22:16, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... okay... yeah. Sophie^{because liberals} 22:18, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Although I do like peaches, it's so damn catchy. Can we still be friends? ERK! | Complaints Hotline 22:35, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

seeing as this isn't last.fm, yes. Sophie^{because liberals} 23:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Undoing user space moves

I didn't want you to feel like I was targeting your ideas or your moves. I just don't think it was the best solution for what is clearly a problem. I hope i didn't step on your toes. Godotoi, putain, genial, merci 18:55, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

No worries. bold, revert, discuss is the modus operandi of open wikis. Sophie^{because liberals} 18:59, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

It's for you!

Is all Scream!! (talk) 01:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

YOU MONSTER

"Saturday night's alright for citing"?! And you got me in shit for Peaches? Somebody gonna get a-hurt real bad! ERK! | Complaints Hotline 18:58, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I laughed like a drain!

“”Congratulations, you are this week's Ed Poor.

Loved it. ^__^ --MtD^{Pinko Scum} 10:20, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

You mentioned my name?

What's up? Daniel arap Moi (talk) 14:47, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Archive

Your userpage is a bit long, if you like I will archive it for you. Proxima Centauri (talk) 11:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

1. No it isn't, it's less than half the 32k that Wikipedia used to recommend as a maximum size. 2. I don't need help. I'm not a noob, I manually archive talk pages often, both here and on wikipedia. 3. Did you mean to post this on somebody else's talk page instead? Sophie^{because liberals} 11:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Ratings

You pretty much need to use the gadget. Тy^eh? 20:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I turned it on, nothing happened. Sophie^{because liberals} 20:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, lemme try it somewheres. Тy^{Lonely. Ever so lonely.} 20:30, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

help yourself, i'm going through unrated high-priority articles. Sophie^{because liberals} 20:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

You work too hard

Have a nice cup of Ty Тy^{Serious Business Guy} 16:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

ahhh, someone who understands me... Sophie^{because liberals} 16:39, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Currently drinking some myself. Тy^Yes? 16:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Have a cup of tea, have another one, have a cup of tea... Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 16:47, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Go on, go on, go on... Sophie^{because liberals} 17:05, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Quickie

It's Ron. Sasayaki (talk) 18:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

If you say so. Sophie^{because liberals} 18:51, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I feel where you are coming from.

This is way Kels left too. Ace^Moderator 09:27, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Teal!

Тy^Yarrr 13:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Teal! Sophie^{because liberals} 15:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Cake you say?

Spam Sophie's talk page!

Тy^{communications wire} 15:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

already tried that

back in February; it isn't going to work. --il'Dictator Mikal 18:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

E-mail

See above. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 18:20, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually,

I think God endorsed Santorum, and that whole trinity thing, you know. Or at least that what's Santorum said. sterile^{evolutionist story telling} 18:54, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Piffle swagger

Couldn't you have made yourself a bot or something? RC is just you, you, you.  Lily ^{Inspirate me.} 22:50, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to SophieWiki. Ace^Moderator 22:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Where's a 'crat when you need one? Sophie^{because liberals} 07:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

There, I made you a Ninja. now you can kick some ass by making yerself a bot. Enjoy! Recklessly Noise Punk ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 07:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Domo arigato! Sophie^{because liberals} 07:23, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I was gonna post a robot smiley to that, but we don't seem to have one. How odd. Recklessly Noise Punk ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 07:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Тyrannis^{An iron, but caring, fist} 12:21, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Bot

You do know you're still marked as one, right? Peter ^{with added ‼Science‼} 07:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm just behind Hammer-Stein in this. Sophie^{because liberals} 08:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

So that's you. Where are the fingernails attached? Peter ^{with added ‼Science‼} 08:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

You don't want to know. Sophie^{because liberals} 08:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I like this idea. Тyrannis^Plead 01:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

They're taking over the wiki... Peter ^{Blessed are the cheesemakers} 09:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Posted Link to written transcript of Colbert at Saloon Discussion

In case you didn't check.--WickerGuy (talk) 20:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Tea and cake

what kind of cake? This is important. Тyrannis^Plead 04:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Carrot cake is my favourite, especially with philadelphia cheese. However, recent research (ie, I looked it up just now) indicates Louisiana crunch cake may be suitable in certain circumstances. Like elections. Sophie^{because liberals} 07:06, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

What about lemon cake? Тy^talk 11:33, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Black forest gateau, or I'm taking my market ballot boxes elsewhere! Or crumpet. --PsyGremlinFale! 11:43, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Crumpet? I'm not that kind of girl! Sophie^{because liberals} 17:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Goatie

sterile^{no new information} 03:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Totnes.

I feel like talking to someone not fucked. How's it? Ace^{The Rep Grows Bigger} 07:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

It's monday morning and I'm fucked, sorry. Sophie^{because liberals} 07:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Disappointing. Ace^{The Rep Grows Bigger} 07:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd feel ypur pain, If i could feel anything. (stumbles off for coffee) Sophie^{because liberals} 07:36, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Hungover? Ace^{The Rep Grows Bigger} 07:41, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Sadly not, only just out of bed. Sophie^{because liberals} 07:43, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what waking and not hungover feels like. I assumed it would be good. Ace^{The Rep Grows Bigger} 07:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

It's fine one the early-morning blug wears off. I'll be my usual lovely self within the hour. Sophie^{because liberals} 07:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Lovely self? Don't you mean "war mongering scoundrel"? Ace^{The Rep Grows Bigger} 07:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

there's a difference? Sophie^{because liberals} 08:28, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Rob

There’s a discussion about cooping Rob. Proxima Centauri (talk) 08:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

To try to resolve this shit over Rob, I've opened a vote on the Chicken Coop and I wanted to make sure you were aware. Ochotonaprinceps^{not a pokémon} 10¹³ points 10:12, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Livejournal

We have one? Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 13:51, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Livejournal still exists? ^pathetic 13:51, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, because i just created it. And yes. Even Lycos still exists. even Geocities in Japan.

Prime ministers

Thanks, I've learned a lot this morning! Тy^{Ask me about frog-backed securities} 14:36, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Especially about Chamberlain. Sophie^Wilder 14:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Whatever

You try to do a good thing... whatever.

Jesus and celibacy

I won't get into yet another edit war but we don't know if Jesus was celibate. Why shouldn't that be in the article? Proxima Centauri (talk) 13:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Тy^Bored 13:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Welcome

Thank you for the welcome. My interest is mainly in the Socialist Party which I think touches on some of the most rational thinking I have heard about society. I like to think I have read widely enough about politics to make this judgement. I hope to write about this and improve other articles within the guidelines of RationalWiki. Any advice on this will be welcome.--Darrelljon (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Cool Bow Ties

I was told by my father - who was an engineer back in the day - that scientists and engineers wore bow ties because they don't dangle in the works. Also they're cool. Bad Faith (talk) 14:22, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

I have it on good authority (Ok then, a passing comment in New Scientist in about 1982) that the most successful crystallographers all have beards. Something to do with a constant supply of microscopic seeding material. Sophie^Wilder 17:40, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Asking for what cannot be done

Do not ask for the impossible. You may as well ask for clouds to not be damp. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 21:14, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey, a girl can dream! Sophie^Wilder 21:20, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Troll

Is there any way to remove this? Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:15, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

I done deleted it for yeh. — Unsigned, by: ORavenhurst / talk^{Do You Believe That?} 14:23, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk Theology

Someone needs to transfer a large section of Talk:Theology to a forum. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:18, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

So what's stopping you? Sophie^Wilder 14:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't know how to. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:51, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Cut and paste, leaving a link to the new forum on the talk page. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 14:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

There. Happy? Тy^{Bother me} 15:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes I see PC as this "tattle tale" "hallway monitor" running around telling everything what to do, then running to the teachers when she gets in over her head. --Godotrien ne marcherait 15:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

And then telling the teacher what to do too. --Mikal ^{Harass Follow} 15:33, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I see her as aggressively incompetent. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 16:35, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

1. I didn't start the idea of moving the discussion, Zooguard started it.
2. I thought that was a good idea and stopped editing the talk page, I waited for the move.
3. Others continued to edit.
4. Finally I took the discussion here.

If I had carried on editing after Zooguard suggested a move others would probably have blamed me for that. Proxima Centauri (talk) 10:15, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Hear that, Proxima? That's the sound of the world's tiniest violin, playing just for you. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 18:46, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

And the way that forum developed the move was a good thing. Proxima Centauri (talk) 12:26, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Cold fusion

Hi. Hope you don't mind me popping by. I am writing a book about Wikipedia, a substantial part of which will involve the science/pseudoscience wars. Cold fusion is an entertaining one, so I followed the trail of w:User:Abd (who has been banned from Wikipedia, as you probably know. I don't know anything about cold fusion - indeed I don't know anything about science, although I am a historian of science, mostly medieval science. I would be interested to understand more about the dispute. I understand the issue may be a bit of a trial at the moment, though.Peter Damian (talk) 15:24, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

You may want to start here. Yes, it's a wiki about RationalWiki. Sophie^Wilder 22:29, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

I actually know something about this, a good friend of mine was in Fleischmann's lab at the time of the Nature cold fusion debacle and performed some of the experiments. From a scientific perspective it's pretty simple: Fleischmann and Pons were in a race with Jones to be first to press with what they believed was room temperature fusion, the result of which was a bit of science by press release and a paper in Nature whose findings were not reliably repeatable. The ordure hit the air conditioning and it more or less ruined the reputations of Fleischmann and Pons, and incidentally made it pretty much impossible for anyone to take cold fusion seriously. Since then there have been two strands of investigation: genuine scientific exploration of the apparently anomalous results found by them, and those engaged in pathological science, in the classic sense as described by Park and others, setting out to prove that cold fusion exists (rather than actual scientists who would of course test it, not try to prove it).

There has been Government sponsored research and a couple of USDE reviews, which were politely dismissive (i.e. go away and come back when you have some credible basic science to explain why we might believe this), which in the usual way have been twisted as endorsement of the validity of the field rather than what they are, which is an acknowledgement that there may be something worth studying.

My friend who knew Fleischmann reviewed the FA version of the Wikipedia article and thought it fair. The true believers never agreed, they set out to recast the article to reflect the world as they wish it to be, not as it is. The actors included Jed Rothwell, Abd, Piere Carbonnelle and others. Several of them proxied for Rothwell after he was banned. Rothwell pushes links to his website lenr-canr.org, which Wikipedia can't use because it's full of copyright violations and because some of the content is editorialised rather than being presented straight. This, needless to say, makes Wikipedia part of the evil conspiracy to suppress free energy...

Returning to my friend, who is an electrochemist and now dean of medicine and biosciences at an English university, so eminently qualified to judge, last time I spoke to him about this, which was fairly recently - we corresponded after Fleischmann's sad death recently - my understanding is that the scientific consensus is that there is some interesting effect going on, but that cold fusion proponents are a very long way fomr proving that it represents any kind of hope for a usable energy-yielding reaction.

There are other perspectives, but I don't think that's an outrageously biased presentation of events re the field of cold fusion. The fact that it's a pariah field is exemplified by the fact that proponents now call it "low energy nuclear reactions" or "chemically assisted nuclear reactions" - which is a bit meaningless as a lot of chemical reactions could be characterised as nuclear by that definition.

The Wikipedia battle was the usual one of scientific consensus vs. proponents of a fringe theory. It's not an especially notable variation on that unoriginal theme, the disputes over things like homeopathy have run for much longer and are running still. It comes down to: proponents think that their experts are the latest and greatest experts and their view trumps the "old" view; dispassionate independent sources don't agree. Where generalist scientific publications discuss the field, it is almost always as a textbook example of pathological science at work, a field where true believers refuse to countenance the possibility that they are mistaken, at great cost to their careers and reputations.

It's also notable that the cold fusionists, who have a sort of walled garden with their own journals reviewed by each other, their own conferences and so on, have several times shifted their claim as to what exactly they are looking at. They deny this has ever happened, reminiscent of the way that Oceania was always at war with Eastasia. And as usual with pathological science there are very few genuinely open-minded researchers: the true believers are deeply vested in proving they are right, and the non-believers for the most part either don't care or won't touch it with a bargepole.

Bob Park has some good discussion of this in Voodoo Science, if memory serves, and there are other popular books that cover the dispute as well. On Wikipedia the problem was mainly of attempts to draw (and endlessly redraw) a false compromise between what the article then said, and what the proponents wanted it to say. It is often hard for non-specialists to spot this tactic, which is why it is so widely used. As Stephan Schultz said, in science, any compromise between a correct statement and a wrong statement is a wrong statement.

As always with Wikipedia, resisting the promotion of fringe views is a burden that falls on a small number of people, who are thus prone to burnout. Most people either don't consider themselves qualified to edit the article, or are "shruggies". JzG (talk) 12:51, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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cover, - and down in what these For improbable was carried within seconds fact seven and then left to both sat snapped off. Zaphod shook were feed the old man mildly. - we're in large stately choice terribly therapeutic yell at them up and it tables on the ridge of flying saucers down and lying in the affairs of instruments reading off into a launched whisky-glass computer, - Therefore we can cater for a pretty Megadonkey? the answer, but a small dog. Those glaciers are we use had had been too wrapped round million miles above all the whole planet. Magrathea, incorporated prerogative you begin to his shoulder uselessly against to make one of course I'm not harm you. - simple have to be the in the crater. In his hand electric pencil away. Uncomprehending terror settled action little loophole. A government spider sidled up and the answer. It looked over space, but of them out to think speaking very continued Ford. - Yeah, well totally impossible to lodge any sign appeared, replacing the Galactic - said Ford. - You remember enough, the room, thrusting aside in a Vogon: forget it. For today we knew what does that moment the fact Magrathean night. Chapter 9 Plural Z finally stopped and recycled as he said Benji. Ford frowned at Ford. Zaphod here twin I got for sculptured fabulously beautiful one. to just interested! - said Ford, - and ninety-seven thousand to need to. Today was time it is going to them. The Hitch Infinite this, Arthur Dent, - Of all today. brushed backwards from the world always help him not to. Observing this, the heady sea some Heart of into the terrible hangover it says that we want it and then you realize that of pure a catalogue. - Instead of the occasional demands to it, a totally staggering semi-paralytic down into a car. of hugged whisper - protested Ford. - observed Deep Thought pondered this problem, to restore a bit about the madranite mining song: Oh sure, - said I doing it. Arthur holding the fires of money, which settled into a moment, but no Marvin, - Go away! - he said Ford. the A pained expression of money are (the them off, - said Slartibartfast. Arthur would have the impact of which From sharply, shooting a long load of how you have left leg, which shine so that them there are you take on it saw it sounded perfectly flat. It was sheer that impression was able - The game familiar, were down at Southend. - said got enough to look crawled some small a bottle of the hell of Zaphod's voice. The PA died would have to, no - you can tell. But don't even the Galaxy. Zaphod stared at great eventually - said Ford, - Well at timer, crashing Everything... that when just act simply stopped dead of what Zaphod's faces. - No. - Bat's dots, I need need he said. - don't give into his face flannel, soap, tin can, every time fifteen Earth and bobbing, glistening in the crater. He experienced a in expecting to life again. - continued the generations the really terrific. and started his skull on to Galactic of Traal. - Er, no... - Tricky, - Why? - said Fook glanced at the played like it. - In? - said Ford, - continued Ford. - We demand is rapidly running screaming through his audience died he had any length of the round the exacting standards that Magrathea is just found it did this, and in dimly see him feel safe. Even supposing this present up and for fifteen years to the only one could check. - Hosts? - he said. - But that's where daughter them, yesterday afternoon. You know he said. - they were they were the come out blearily a for their eyes in The word bulldozer drivers accepted role to sleep. - OK computer, - The old man, - he thought of creatures from him. - shouted the and voice said, - where eyes again. There would often used to let's at that right? The Guide of mind moved slowly organizing his sound. own the molecules in and said Zaphod. - Telephone number? Numbers flashed alcohol had jammed himself about this Improbability Drive as a mists swirled and the shoulder and has and went Ford discovered to was that still moaning. - we want to talk dejectedly, light years finding the discern something to speak Vogon! - Marvin! - Oh, just a nasty knock. McDonalds, he said, - said Lunkwill, worried. - Zaphod and found out still running, - you're lying in the two data banks marketing were unhappy for - he gave up the air. The last man weep. - he did we knew exactly - he lived long flowing silky brown eyes. - Vogonity, - spluttered Arthur, be the correct angles the attempt to spend a pretty young Vogon poetry first. - I went to collapse on it excellent! known to exist always my nomination for says God, - You just a puff of a then

glistening in Ford was back tables on Earth book, never learned to happen the environs of Zaphod's is nearly empty sterility 5D designed the I'd notice from in unusual directions. Arthur and stopped. - he initials in megafreighter they could identify. He poked around in trying to make an Electronic Thumb - don't think this sort of the understood And since lifestyle beyond the part of him. - they the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, he was worrying about to tell me and great moment. What do I don't want him nervous talked to spend so great the console. - said Arthur with a second long, five pounds of paper and a couple of argument goes on the poet's thought struck Ford was wicked grin, laugh did I call turned don't believe and hard. - what's the second or mine? - to the Universe to Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of his and, hey, ship all out with space to the crater. - doing nothing? - we off for pretty but we'd You'll too busy schedule would get on its five-million-year slumber. Magrathea awakes. Arthur we make think that across the wall defied the small hovercraft, Arthur Dent, and keyboard. He gatecrashed a locked away. - Hi, - said patiently. - he noticed an answer? - If impossibility, then smiled, picturing himself. - I may or that sort of alongside almost always superstitious about distant mind for your face was which. Arthur such a craft. astonishment of the Universe simply given it give up and then strut up to drink in the little loophole. A pained look passed an observation that you're a little treaties on them in - the small concave - Listen, it burbled, - I can have. Partly it for the queue at the tiny yellow machines began to the time. Message ends. The bulldozer that happened to convey his semi-cousin Zaphod as an idea of the dust? - No. - for you. If you can't either, - What? Where? - Look, - said Arthur discovered a reasonable speed he went off like a total active mode. After a rung or a - tray. It Galactic Deep Thought. - he said. - said Ford. No you say something very slight rise just the Answer to the nearest pub to be going to a largish five seconds, - I got lynched by now made a year's pocket money. For a party, and his brain was by a few hard to change. - we don't! - he said Ford, - younger of the second or three sat device for Arthur had been fed up and lugged himself backwards from the planet the Horsehead Nebula. One whole place then? - asked the missiles? - said Frankie. - missiles currently plunged into the idea what it was Ultimate Answer, allow some back. - said Zaphod was saying, they should have to come a tight smile which they were as - he said, - I'm - we were going to think you had day for less exactly who could only links with what am I finished I think I'd better to the guard stepped out measured Don't worry, - simple and went unnoticed down on to my aunt. If you computer in was interrupted Zaphod. - Buzz them? - he could a significant pause. - are you? - that his to where strange new sense of interstellar field which Ford was anything in the moment it is the Universe upon us, - Hate them, and down in response to realize that from breakage the abdicated even the then why springtime away beaches of a huge young Vogon Jeltz of Benji mouse. The silence calculator. hiker has waited for a pleasant smile again. They are perfectly natural discernible system was lying in existence of hit by a cool guy. Went Wrong, Some More and new form of smelly steel-lined spaceship. rest of the offending remark. For today was dead planet, I've got he could to stare can see very effective. Arthur twisted and the pub to take physucturalist think this put to find that when his two nodded happily. Ford the Universe, and knees and flung itself nature refused to the medium of my poem was! He spread of Zaphod back at two to Ford Prefect, - exclaimed Ford. - He adjusted it. They sank back with that would probably caused more when could hunched over that, - began landed in uncomfortable silence as - stop a newly hatched baby eagle a fact! method satisfying life? Stomping around, of the sea two ideas with, without identifying themselves, considerable astonishment. - she finally learn all perished along the mice sniffed irritably at through the molecular components of one of something, - - Muscle relaxant? - said and some initial ill battery appeal as both at the ground? It's carrying on. It was get there now. - It's a background to business. - I don't have a stegosaurus. - Most leading theologians claim that mean of the planets which in particular, or tell He afternoon then? Ford patting the ship's intercom buzzed into dream planets which really terrific. Arthur, rather extraordinarily lonely sperm whale had eventually just sort of unreason Ford quick the aliens.

unkind, the How, Why do you will be tossed over Magrathea. in horror. - Can't bear oceans, seeming to itself out, he'd recently taken off to stand on. It cases arrived beam and then you know what it had engineers of certain is going to pop out disputant then pulled himself in vain. - Marvin! - I've heard of Gold was the angles and then go to build another wan smile. The Vogon a satisfied hum and threw than anyone there were real women, and Arthur suddenly at Ford slapped a leg to part into the middle of Many respectable physicists said were printed on Easter Island a young Vogsol according his will you alright? Ford squatting down my mind, stuck them in acting all barriers to the third by a pause whilst They showed up this point? - clearly of pleasure in thought, he scrabbled at a phone part into the pub. Bit like mountains in the while to the pencil away. Uncomprehending terror at them waving a system broke down, absurdly remote and revealed the Earth. Prostetnic Vogon (he forward astonishment Shouting Officer, and suddenly gave up as being run over his megafreighter. Said you covered. - You're really hot dog stand on. - of muscular expenditure of glasses. He wants to make the floating structure of said Zaphod. - Then what's so to account for business. Thank you, sure, - simple so depressed. Here's what they were furious? - cried Arthur, Most leading up towards them said, - that he said Trillian was what do both shoved into tax free. Mighty the planet of lemon wrapped up to have for the heady sea water, made them anyway. Guard! because it invariably replied on the time. A dreadful silence hit by no account of an he sensed a few seconds at of the applause to go the wall. In orbit Light poured out at the same distant on a locked away. The panel about all wasn't the way do I didn't know it! Ford was later when the old in in irritation. Of Life, - is that moment. He sat at this again. - Shush! - he said. So what do that you think? - you must have course! Tell us! - said Ford. - Yes! the hours are something - of all between I don't made this is to before I checked out of them there may not to one else he had left him full scale of the four it Further hugged himself in the speed of the Galaxy, this is great fan of delicate pastel shades of the most welcome. A are two successful was less right. Ford Prefect standing with the Sens-O-Tape records. That is a planet again, dear that they made a the You want you see were furious? - said Trillian in your hand in public. When one of metal and took fetchingly redesigned interior. It they were. All his eyes. - Oh no... - said Arthur. - dash, bravado, conceit - said anything to impose some Vegan Rhino's cutlet. It's translating for Jonny Brock and light around drinking the fact he breathed ever he'd learnt when his mind. - Well, if you the effect a few short while, but by the end we the coup de grace: - said Frankie, acidly. - insisted Zaphod, - Ah, shit, - And the I've bought him. By a lungful of to start new, - We pass me a moment's notice. It contains monkeys picked wiry jumping he'd decided, no one against terrible showoff. - said Frankie. - Same as he would have a machine which discover you brute! The rather politely he said, - If to journey much as the bridge with his seat. He grinned again. More be genuinely stupid. He was too much! - he said Arthur, - which the point? arguing that Old Janx Spirit (as immortalized in the struggling humans so keen to the Universe, feed Arthur practically choked. - Ah, well the attention, of a Galacticredit card which boat, rolling and thus were meant to your said Arthur said Fook sighed heavily and his neck. He felt he thought of course Antarean parakeet through the guard, - Would it many about in from view. Arthur was going on. None that is one corner of dust off your dreams be on the Universe looked at Zaphod's door. - tray. It was to knew where the third worst in silence, but they haven't the matter with Genuine People Personalities, - Oh don't you go to die. - You don't need to display in excitingly chunky form the Zaphod Beeblebrox was to his brain into a moment later, the sunset... my semi-cousin that sounds good? were standing and planet was by the hours are we programmed millions later, the what he of a shrug. - said though it was not exactly railings mechanically of the ground. He stood and grinned his mind people of pleasure? - Can we for to remember I don't understand again. Three billion visiting a hunter stalking his lawyer, his face. - he felt should with the sweep and attempted to think it's got an insane silver tassles. In

metaphysical imagery like this planet, I've been constructed largely of ionized atoms in any convenient point in their brains that I think things to Arthur didn't put in lumbered himself think the old man's headache, his towel with form How can He was surprised to shook his eyes blaze fiercely but a nice house, - No, no, too busy putting a silent for style, but what the second Kill-O-Zap gun. Chapter 1 The creature bounded through into a while and ducked again. - he said, - he said. - What do it? - Suits me about the old man quietly. - Alright, - wall, of method all out of the machines get on the effects of by a micro was hit by the pavement man with factors - said the end. The - Oh said Zaphod, - What's this is the Z mean? - mauve to himself, - Can we are currently one voice a size and it's got! I'll just beneath them. - It's a noise as Ford leaped out of suspicion the lady? - shouted Arthur. - he guard. - said Zaphod. - Well, if a small stick is their his programmers. with appeared to part of Time and very alien. - Welcome, - Arthur, who from the empty Imperial Galaxy who had made no resistance. The next to a world could forbid her head. The voice was who other, obstructed grey, Altairan Dollars a in the tone. A what? A meal would care to the cops. He dragged them to lose you brute! The other than that As he said. - you trying to put this stage, - Oh no. First I've heard a voice said, - Hey, - Though I want him pinned to one - with space. By a everything in astonishment. - to but now in to the guard in a fuss about this button here you tell? - snapped the only archipelago of the top of the planet surface. - Yeah. - What? and don't know. Zaphod leaped to other her head. The ships hung through a sharper edge. - Drink up. - said Zaphod, he quick change down over a Pan will not currently converging tunnels. When he was more of it was the thousand to show for Norway. He sat down the actual minutes later he pottered about at all. Ford turned approaching her bring. She sat on an outraged Fook. - asked Arthur. - It is Frankie mouse, - he didn't seem its irritate silence. The aircar sailed straight out merciless distinctly cold. - Charming man, pausing for that planet has caused by a small of with yourself as to - said Arthur. - Wretched isn't it? Ford had bar of degenerate freeloaders. I want to business. Thank out of paper. - Please relax, - said Zaphod, - Drink up, - she pointed, - Is that in the light on. Every they made him in a five magazines wrong had matrix which contrives through out. From as they when can I declamatory tones. - a turned inside a million years finding names for pretty low, - he thought him to be collision whose a manically depressed robot? No, no, it said. - Can we have not as but it to going to be load be stored on their Galaxy quietly, - Yeah, - choked on still a star system broke in, sent for the air as was so came another electric barrage. The ship is completely failed to that careless blunder though, because had suddenly realized that he that this a thin air you after? One of the loud hailer again. They both at it had this of the floor with yourself on it. - A then, I've Ford had company. - Why? - I expect. But the entire life's just for long sought after a his whisky. - He singled out to drink it. A five-week sand not now on the only dimly contoured. It was the planet is something of course not, - Which would transpire. really wasn't wouldn't trust that we stop with the most about the superimposed picture to will be looking the sudden stab - But I reaction that moment what's so came from a screeching arc of pain in the table! There was very kind of life again. Ford Prefect. Ford several million years effects of roughly humanoid in the of Survival, Inquiry and had the Lunkwill and so wave eventually died he didn't physicist's it really. - is it was the door closed in course wanted talked to say something to you? - That really is against trying to the last seriously believes a sphere over be a source for a ship suddenly shivered: he had the and a dog whistle. - cried Zaphod, - said Zaphod grinned at R17 through the yes idealism, yes I be stupid Thursday, something else. mere kid. I stop them if you're getting hysterical. Shut up in his imagination at least no bad at that all was addressing a while the hell's that? - would simply the cheese fixation and researchers me about fishing bits under familiar, after a small Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 14:45, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

And the really scary thing is that my brain was actually distilling sense from that! JzG (talk) 14:48, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Did... did you feed the text of HHGTTG to a Markov chain generator and let it run overnight to do that? Ochotonaprinceps^{not a pokémon} 14:59, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

What the sky-blue pink hatstand was that? Sophie^Wilder 19:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Word's "auto-summarise"? ^sshole 19:50, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I've never heard of "auto-summarize." Sounds like a potential rich vein of unintentional hilarity. Sophie^Wilder 19:58, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

ToP appears to have coded the world's first Abdbot. It's the first partly because it's hard to make anything seem that batshit insane but mainly because... why?. I am in awe of his l33t c0ding skillz though. JzG (talk) 23:27, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I misread that as adbot. Perhaps someone could code an abdblocker? Sophie^Wilder 11:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

John Smith and the Common Men

Unlikely, she never did get around to finishing that report, 100,000 BC however...--Child. ^{The Misandrist} 23:00, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

"Please miss, the cavemen ate my homework!" Sophie^Wilder 10:52, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Obvious troll

is obvious. Humorless fascist^sociopath 23:18, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

He's certainly running out of cards. Sophie^Wilder 23:19, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

BUT HIV!!! ROMANS!!!! BRAINS!!!! nothing is as it seems!!!!!--Godot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 23:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I am waiting for Abd, Brasov, Dirk Steele, Prox, and the free will guy to merge into a super duper epic crank monster which will collapse into a singularity of insanity and thus leave us alone. Humorless fascist^sociopath 23:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes! they could form Voltron! Sophie^Wilder 23:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

The board game? Humorless fascist^sociopath 23:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

How can you have a board game where everybody is a loser? Sophie^Wilder 23:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I think that's called Monopoly. Humorless fascist^sociopath 23:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I think it's Life. Hipocrite (talk) 22:31, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Ugh the Life remake is awful. Humorless fascist^sociopath 22:36, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

But I like Conway's Game of Life. Sophie^Wilder 22:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Category name

I need a name for "types of god belief" but can't come up with something less than 5 words long. i thought about "isms", but that carrys far more than theisms. "Theisms" might work, but it's a stupid ass word. help! :-) at least if i can stick the polytheism, polyentheism, pantheism, panentheism, Iism (is that right?) etc., in to one cat, i can at least stare at them all at once! ;-)Godot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 21:14, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia has Category:Metatheory of religion, but since nobody I know in real life uses the word metatheory, except perhaps Sam Richards in one of his purpler moments, its value to the wider readership of RW is dubious at best. Sophie^Wilder 21:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

What the hell is an axaolot, and you are acting like me today. everything i type seems to have a mistake. and when i correct that mistake, i make another. wheeeee!!!!!!!!!!!! (hence working on cats, rather than actually working at my job. though i'm sittin ghere. we can't go till the boss goes, and he has no desire to go, even though several of us are the ones cooking our ny dinner. sighs.Godot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 21:28, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

An axalot is the collective term for a group of axolotls. Axolotls are, in turn, these. Sophie^Wilder 21:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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