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## Atheists (of Cthulhu)

Am I the only one who missed this?--Antifly 22:17, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

One suspects that someone's taking a leetle bit of piss.   ContribsTalk 22:19, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

## Pinochet

Am I the only one who found the fawning over Pinochet made them want to throw up? I can't believe the crap he is writing. And as for Ed, I have never heard a leftist defend the murders by Castro and Guevara, but I am only 25 so it is probably the times I live in. But Pinochet was good and the leftist smeared him? Isn't this the sort of revisionist history crap the Chompsky comes out with for Pol Pot? I was watching a documentary on Opus Dei, and when there leadership started talking about the good old days under Pinochet I lost any sympathy I had for them in the attacks by Brown in The Da Vinci Code. Also they are conveniently over looking the fact that socialist government in Chile was voted in and Pinochet overthrew the democratically elected government. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:35, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

No, I also wanted to puke. Republicans have no problem with brutal dictators, as long as he's Christian and conservative. δλερνερ διαλέγομαι | συνεισφέρω 23:40, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
Correction - the far-right nutjobs that would fit right in at CP have no problem with brutal dictators, as long as he's Christian and conservative, same as they uphold the idea of democratically elected governments - unless those governments are a bit too socialist. More moderate Republicans would find that just as nuts as you do. 92.16.51.127 23:49, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
Bunch of numbers, you made me feel better by saying that. Thankyou. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 00:14, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Thatcher (spit) was a big fan of Augusto, say no more!   ContribsTalk 00:46, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Oh, hey, you have that spitting thing, too? Barikada 02:07, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Spit! And I made the pretty "heart" for teh assfly & his bff, Pinochet. PS, I dislike authoritarianism from the left and right. Um, I don't like dictators. ħuman 02:19, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I have that with Reagan (spit), too. Thatcher (twitch) is slightly less familiar to me. Anyway, yeah, the Pinochet (glare) thing. I love when Ed (...) loses his veneer of geniality and explodes with random accusations that have nothing to do with anything. --YossieSpring in Fialta 03:28, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

<unindent> I have a theory why Andy likes Pinochet. The CIA was involved in overthrowing the democratically elected President Salvador Allende, the first Marxist to ever be democratically elected to high office, this was in 1973 during the Nixon administration, so, it must have been good, thus, Pinchet was good. This fits well with the way Andy thinks. δλερνερ διαλέγομαι | συνεισφέρω 03:50, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

This reminds me, CP really needs an article on Operation Condor. -Judas Reward 03:54, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Remember that right now Schlafly is theorizing about Orwell being a conservative. As somebody put it with Bush and Hitler, regarding Pinochet, Castro, Che, Pol Pot, et al., it's the same shit, just different assholes. --JJ4eGot milk? 09:05, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I know exposing parody is bad, but what with all the Orwell stuff going on over there can this little gem by Bungler really be ignored? --Kels 09:16, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
As vocal against him as I have been, I like him, for example here, when he doesn't jump against innocent CP editors, RW trolls or his fellow parodists. Editor at CPLiar at RP! 09:27, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Greetings, foreign traveler. Please obey the orders given by me, or be summarily executed.

"Welcome, weary traveler. If you'd like to help us shovel back the liberal tide of Wikipedia, please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. I hope you will agree to accept this [[writing assignment]]." —Ed Poor[1]

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## Epic lulz

This is just perfect. I'm actually involved in one of the diffs provided :D I can't say who I am in the Land of Conserawackia or they'll pwn me and report me to the FBI (which is their way of saying their mommies) but I am a "conservative, God-fearing" user on there. So keep this going, even if it is just for the epic lulz -

IP sig removed - don't ask.   ContribsTalk 00:51, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for giving me some lulz on my b-day. PWN'd! Kettle Kin (Version 2.0) 09:16, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Actions have consequences. weaseLOId~ 09:28, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Cheater.
Hey, IP -- use Tor. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!Winner of the Best Conversation Award 2008! Good work everyone! 09:33, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Please, someone tell me what this Epic lulz is and where to find diffs. I must be missing the obvious here - it wouldn't be the first time. Editor at CPLiar at RP! 09:41, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I'm not exactly sure. The user who wrote the above note (anonymously using their IP address) is obviously socking on CP & involved in some of the stuff on WIGO, but I don't know under what name. CP sysop NathanG was watching us & has blocked that IP - see the block log linked above, currently fourth one down, 09:14, quotes '"Epic Lulz" - Thanks for the tip' so obviously watching this page. weaseLOId~ 09:49, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Ah! I saw that NathanG's block and I thought it referred to something specific happening over there. Thanks, Weaseloid. Editor at CPLiar at RP! 09:53, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
*sigh* so once again, one of the goon squad has blocked somebody there for something they said on another site. The fact that it was an IP could mean that more than one person is blocked too. Way to go Nate. --PsyGremlinWhut? 10:15, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
It's Nate's birthday after all. Won't we let him party with a cake, some presents and a few blocks? Editor at CPLiar at RP! 10:17, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
It's one of the many ways in which CP is hypocritical, they try to expunge us from the records but they're all (Hi Jinx!) logged in here watching like hawks Silver Sloth 10:35, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

(unindent) It truly does not matter what other people do on other sites. Part of the block policy is not to block users on their activities outside of CP. RAAAAH! Irony Meter redlining! Initializing hard liquor counter-balance! NorsemanWassail! 10:38, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Must be very frustrating for them, seeing us saying what they'd like to say on their own site. Perhaps they could sign up and speak their minds without fear of permablocks by ego-tripping sysops. Please join us. We have goats! Totnesmartin 10:43, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
1. I'm not a sysop, just really close to it (immunity and block/upload/edit rights)
2. The user foolishly used his/her IP to "brag" about socking/vandalism, s/he deserved it, eh? The user didn't say anything to offend me or CP on this site, so I didn't block the user for "outside activities". Kettle Kin (Version 2.0) 13:32, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, unless you can provide evidence of the vandalism or socking (the anon IP didn't say that they had multiple accounts or had actually committed vandalism) then you are hypocritically blocking for things said on another site. I just hope they're not supplying Kool-Aid at your birthday bash because you seem to be slipping into the dark side. GenghisOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 18:08, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I would agree with you, Nate, if the user had actually admitted to socking/vandalism, but he didn't and could very well be, say, the guy who wrote stuff on the "Best Concepts to Teach Teenagers" essay or the guy Andy complimented and incited to bash liberals. At this point the only thing we know (unless you asked somebody to run Checkuser on him or something) is that he knows about rationalwiki and was involved in something he founds funny. Either way, happy birthday! NightFlarei haz a talk page. 19:31, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Nope, I don't drink anything, ever.. except if I'm sick or about to get sick, then I drink "wooder".
Meh, alright. I'll make a note of it, but I won't unblock the IP because then it will raise an eyebrow or two at CP... putting my reputation at jeopardy. I'm learning ever so slowly, the opposite of how I was in school. Kettle Kin (Version 2.0) 22:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Ossification

Watch out, Andy is doing "science" again...--Antifly 10:52, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

A new Conservapedia insight... Maybe Andy finally came to his senses and selfdiagnosed the problem? Editor at CPLiar at RP! 10:53, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Where is the curve in all that? ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 19:43, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Genius!

Oh, Bugler, bravo. Bra-VO. He'll go for it, too. Watching Bugler at work is like watching a concert pianist. --Phentari 11:07, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

And he did! I find it hilarious that Andy doesn't even know when he started his own blog! --Kels 11:18, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Even we know that! --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 11:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
November, huh? What would life be like if he'd decided to be productive and done NaNoWriMo instead? --Kels 11:32, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
We'd have an unholy abomination of a novel as damaging to the sanity of those who attempted to read it as the Necronomicon. Fortunately, egregious errors in spelling, grammar, and punctuation would render it illegible to the casual reader. --Phentari 11:34, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Someone has given it too him. He doesn't let go of his ideas easily does Andy? ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 19:51, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Karajou vs. PJR, round whatever

Perhaps not WIGO-worthy, but Karajou resurrects a few day old issue (which we talked about earlier) just to insult DLerner and smack PJR down. It's an interesting acknowledgment of the unspoken sysop hierarchy, and I anxiously await PJR's response. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 12:10, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

OH!!!! The throwdown gets a little more interesting! The stakes are raised! --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 12:13, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
And then comes the Holy Crap! WIGO entry. Editor at CPLiar at RP! 12:36, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
And Karajou is down! But is he out? We're just waiting on the 10 count. 10... 9...
Boxing commentary aside, how much denial is it going to take to make Karajou look like the good guy in this situation (which is surely how they'll spin this)? I mean, he just took his ball and left. This can't reflect well on him. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 12:39, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
(conflict) And in an Inverse Schlafly Reversal, Karajou blanks and protects their talk page and leaves. So... Karajou didn't have the authority to demand that PJR leave Conservapedia then? --Toiretni 12:40, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
My call is there was a brief, furious exchange of emails, someone (Andy, likely) said that was too much, and Karajou threw a tantrum. We'll see the spin really get going in the next day or so. Prediction: The Koward will be back after burning his talk page, everyone will act as if nothing happened, but there will be prickliness at PJR in general for calling other sysops on their shit. He might even decide it's not worth the effort in the end and quietly wander off himself. --Kels 12:44, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Cheek! Who does he think he is? ME?   ContribsTalk 12:47, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Kara retired!! [2] Kettle Kin (Version 2.0) 12:49, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Nice reaction time there, old boy. =3 --Kels 12:51, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Alternate WIGO:
Karajou: Rabbit season!
PJR: Duck season!
Karajou: Rabbit season!
Karajou: Duck season!
*BANG* --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 12:52, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I for one am not sorry to see that petulant child slink off into the sunset. His reply to PJR was pure Kajagoogoo, all bully and bluster. Alas, somehow I don't think we've seen the last of him. I wonder how Andy the Admin is gong to respond to this shit storm? I'm guessing he's already pulled down the hatch... although I'm sure the wires are humming behind the scenes. Good for you PJR - now if you can convince Ed and Andy to leave, there might be some hope for that little blog. --PsyGremlinWhut? 12:53, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Yeah, I'm just hoping PJR doesn't back down for the sake of unity or some nonsense. I'm guessing Andy's safely hidden under his bed or something at this point, hoping it all goes away. --Kels 12:59, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
He could make it all go away by telling sysops they can't just go around demanding things impromptu. Peon, you will talk to me before making any edits to math articles! Peon, you will complete this writing assignment! Peon, you will never criticize me in public! --Toiretni 13:12, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

...and now CP has crashed (or is it just me?) Fretfulporpentine 13:14, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Oh, the big hypocrite. He's just victimizing himself, now that PJR is not on good terms with teh Assfly. --JJ4eGot milk? 13:15, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
EC) side note: Karajou let sysops have an e-mail addy not users though.
Wonder if the indirect GUN reference was intended by our favourite parodist: "We need people of his calibre here." :Bungler.   ContribsTalk 13:18, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I was going to propose to Bungler to take Kara's place, but I'm IP banned now :P Editor at CPLiar at RP! 13:26, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

I've screengrabbed K's talk page, just in case he does delete it. I'll upload it to here (hopefully as text, otherwise an image of the page) if anyone wants me to. Totnesmartin 13:37, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Got it: Image:Karajou takes ball goes home.png --Toiretni 13:39, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Lovely. Also saves me farting about with a 787x10875 picture, which would probably make Roxio Photosuite pass out. Totnesmartin 14:02, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Sweetness. Let's hope that Karajou took a sufficiently "him or me" stance with Andy for pride to forbid him to slink back. If I had to put money on it, though, I'd go with Kels' prediction. --Robledo 13:47, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

I'm sure Karajou will be back. The conversation was probably like: Andy: Look, above all, I don't want any of my "good" guys leaving. Please stop demanding each other leave. Karajou: Oh yeah? If wanting to keep everyone here makes you spineless, then fine! I'm leaving. (but for really petty and theatrical reasons, which means I'm going to be back tomorrow) --Toiretni 13:55, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Is there any serious doubt that he's coming back? It's just immature temper tantrum bullshit. He'll be back, they'll never speak of it again, but there will always be an undercurrent of distrust and anger. 'Cause remember, Jesus said "forgive" but he didn't say "forget!" --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 14:02, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, Jesus also said sumpin about "love thy neighbour" and "turn the other cheek", but do we ever see much of that? Javasca₧ Reticulating splines
Clearly you're reading a Liberal sentiment that was inserted into the Bible after the fact, in the same way the Adulteress leftist propaganda was. After all, God is obviously a Conservative and would never allow anything that could be used to embarrass Conservatives into His Holy Book! --Kels 14:09, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I have little doubt (but much hope) that he'll be back before long. Have any of these quits-in-a-huff departures ever held? I guess DanH, but it hasn't been long and I wouldn't be surprised if he returned too. The longest absence for a big wheel is RobS, and he just disappeared, he never resigned. DickTurpis 14:07, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
When people leave for other reasons in their life (their boss/gf/wife tells them to knock off the web surfing), they tend to do it quietly, and it has a higher chance of sticking. When they leave in a really visible way like this, and especially if they don't give any substantive reason for why they have problems with the site, they tend to be back in short order. --Toiretni 14:10, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Still, I don't think DanH will be back. He's been gone for 2 1/2 months, and Andy staunchly refuses to fix the reason he left (unlike Croc's similar retirement). Hopefully, he's gotten enough distance to really see CP for what it is. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 14:13, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

This is such good news, it deserves its very own template:

Ding! dong! The witch is dead!

Huzzah! The wicked witch Karajou is dead!
The denizens of Munchkinland Rationalwiki will be partying tonight!

One dickhead down, only a handful more to go. --JeevesMkII 14:14, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Oh Bohdan you know us too well. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 14:25, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Maybe if Karajou comes back because of that, we can then change everything else on CP using reverse psychology? 'YAY! They're not deleting the page on Affirmative Action Presidents!' -Judas Reward 14:32, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
The fact that I know that Kara only imitates JM's "OH NOES! I LEAVE! FOREVER! BECAUSE OF PJR!" drama whoring takes all the fun out of this (for me). :( Seriously, can't that guy discuss like a sane human being? The moment his powertripping runs into a speedbump, he hits the Drama Button. --Sid 14:31, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
In order to discuss something in a sane manner, you have to be prepared to acknowledge at least the possibility that the other part could be right. Karajou is far too insecure to do that. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 15:43, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Is it just me, or is Bodhan often doing stuff that'll harm CP, like asking the Koward to come back, blocking legit users, or encouraging obvious censorship? --Kels 14:41, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

He's kind of like Loki, he gets his lulz from both sides. --JeevesMkII 14:48, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Is that legal in Denmark? --Kels 15:27, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
It's COMPULSORY!!  ContribsTalk 15:32, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Yeah, we have a long tradition of that. Such as during the Napoleonic Wars. Instead of allying with one or the other like everyone else, Denmark managed for years to get their lulz from both the British and Napoleon. Of course, in the end, the British got fed up with it, so they beat us up and took our ships away. But that's another story. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 15:40, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Thought Kels had an other both sides in mind, but that's probably my pornograph working overtime.   ContribsTalk 15:53, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I think I had a pornograph, back in the 80's. I keep all my HenryS/AKjeldsen slash on a flash drive now. --Kels 16:25, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Drive it home, someone spam the reports of his abuse, nail the coffin shut! :p (Y'know what I think? Karajou couldn't bully PJR, even after that threatening statement. Because of ONE instance he couldn't abuse his power, he left in a trail of piss. He just couldn't get his way, what a crying bitch.) NorsemanWassail! 15:31, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Hrm, I was just totting up who really needs to go to make Conservapedia somewhat sane, or at least dead, which might be the same thing. Really, only Crock o'shite comes to mind. I'd say Bugler too, but I'm almost certain he's a parodist. I kind of hope he fills the dead man's shoes and becomes a sysop so he can fulfil whatever dastardly plan he has hatched. Of course, really to achieve full sanity Andy would have to go. Sadly, that probably won't happen any time soon. --JeevesMkII 15:43, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Andy and Ed would basically have to go. Croc should too, but since he doesn't edit anything he's not as significant; he'd just make the entire site a link farm to conservative blogs. Ken would likely need to go, though he could be kept for comic effect. Jinx is as bad as the rest of them. Bugler can stay, since he's a confirmed parodist. He'd have to get to the finale of his grand scheme soon, though. Problem is I'm not even sure he knows what it is. He may be so deep undercover that's he's gone rouge. DickTurpis 16:50, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
He's gone rouge? Do we have the photographs? :D --JeevesMkII 17:07, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Sorry, Wikipedia in-joke that I guess hasn't taken off here. DickTurpis 17:43, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

LEST WE FORGET. GenghisOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 18:26, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Bristol Palin

I see making mention that little Bris is up the spout is gossip [3], whilst Obama being a muslim and not American must therefore be fact. Bunch of hypocrites. PsyGremlinWhut? 13:33, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Compare the gossip Commandment with the entire contents of CP:Hollywood values. weaseLOId~ 13:37, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Let's see how long Jareddr's new edits last. Not long, I think. Pity, as the last paragraph is exactly the sort of thing Andy would put in the introduction to an article on a liberal who did that. DickTurpis 15:05, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

I got you beat, I'll explain to them what her daugther has to do with the campaign when they explain what Al Gore's son's drug convictions have to do with his political career. SirChuckBObama/Biden? 2012 15:11, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

So, are they going to have to change the Jamie-Lynn Spears entry in Hollywood values now? "The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers."HMcTavitch 15:15, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

No kidding, Bristol Palin mustbe a role model for dozens of young Alaskans. SirChuckBObama/Biden? 2012 15:17, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I was actually going to change "Jamie Lynn Spears" to "Bristol Palin" in that article, but they're not accepting new accounts, it seems. This is what I get for getting all my socks banned. Anyway, I'm going to blame the parents here. This is what you get when you give your daughter a name that's slang for "tits". DickTurpis 15:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Too...damn...easy... --Kels 15:25, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

What the hell happened to my witty WIGO? Damn, Interiot, I'm gonna de-lulz your work next... DogP 15:59, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

*shrug* Humor is subjective. If you think yours is probably better, feel free to revert it. It just seemed like Andy's quote was unusually ironic and should be the first thing mentioned. --Toiretni 16:58, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

James Dobson: "The media are already trying to spin this as evidence Gov. Palin is a 'hypocrite,' but all it really means is that she and her family are human." What was Human saying about the "tightest U-turns"? --Toiretni 16:58, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Oh, there's going to be the most tortuous arguments made here. Evangelicals can't be seen to criticise Palin, but they can't be seen to condone sleeping around as a 16-year-old either. This kind of "oh, we're all just human" talk is a timebomb . Andy's avoiding the topic like the plague over there, his ant-like brain can't figure out how to take a position on the issue, as he's so tied up in dogma. Wonderful. DogP 17:08, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Er..."We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby." Given she'd already said she'd force her daughter to give birth even if she was raped, where's the "decision" here? --Kels 17:42, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

It reminds me of those 1920's "business mergers." You know what I'm sayin SirChuckBObama/Biden? 2012 18:29, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Of course there's still a decision to make... anti-choice people have abortions too.
Just last week a woman announced loudly enough for all to hear in the recovery room, that she thought abortion should be illegal. Amazingly, this was her second abortion within the last few months, having gotten pregnant again within a month of the first abortion.
That's what you get when you preach "no contraception, no abortion". --Toiretni 18:39, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I got a good one. read this have a little chuckle on me. If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me. SirChuckBObama/Biden? 2012 18:52, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Interesting to note that Fox news, which banner-headlined the story all morning as breaking news, and had a Front Page article on it until very recently, has now dropped the story entirely from sight. Ah...family values. DogP 19:13, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Much as I love to bash FoxnotNews...I went to their website and it's still on the front page, under the Laura Bush speech headline. "Teen daughter of GOP VP pick pregnant"--Jdellaro 19:25, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Oops, yer right. Sorry, Mr.Murdoch, for my scurrilous allegations of news-rigging. DogP 19:27, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Provocateur

Who can he mean? http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Provocateur&diff=508664&oldid=420970 Fretfulporpentine 14:09, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

This just demands something like "such as a RationalWiki based sock-puppet account" added into it. Armondikov 14:38, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
The second "section" demands that it be turned into English... ħuman 15:50, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I wonder if he ever reads all of an article or just the latest entry. History (Skimming) would suggest that if there's more than about 100 words his brain can't manage it but almost everything he's touched is the same: disjointed and repetitive making any attempt to read it torture. It's probably a fault with the way wikis work but he's supposed to be intelligent </snigger/>.   ContribsTalk 16:16, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Reagan

Another Reagan apologist makes his mark. Interesting bit (apart from the Supreme court appointments which seem to be fairly accurate) is the juxtaposition of: "Reduce government regulation of the economy." and "Control the money supply to reduce inflation.". Shome mishtake shurely! Oh! the Spelln's pretty atroshus too: weather/whether wear/where etc.   ContribsTalk 15:26, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

I think control the money supply might mean money supply to the government, if it does then a blow out in the debt of 160% means it didn't work. If it mean literally control the money (through government control of printing) then it is fairly economically reckless thing to do. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 19:59, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
The Fed cut the money supply drastically in the late 70's to combat inflation, causing the devastating recession early in Reagan's first term. Once inflation had cooled off, they opened the spigots, fueling the subsequent economic boom period a bit too enthusiastically, making the next recession a bad one as well. ħuman 20:05, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Bugler - chinks in the armour?

If Bugler's undercover then he's deeeeep undercover. If he's undercover then is this [4] a little rip in the cover? A little glimpse of humour? Or this [5] "Toffers, you are the incorrigible liberal", Toffers? Toffers? That almost sounds affectionate. To a liberal? --Toffeeman 18:15, 1 September 2008 (EDT) I he hoping I'll respond with "Buggers old chap!" and he can ban me?--Toffeeman 18:16, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Hello Toffeeman / Toffers. I didn't know you were an editor here. I noticed the copyright lawyer thing too. I assume it's a joke, whether or not he is a parodist. weaseLOId~ 18:25, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Ok, if Bugly is a parodist, what's his plan? A collective blockage? Massive vaporizing of pages? JJ4eKarajerk is dead 21:08, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Wheeling the entire site around in the middle of the night would be funny. ħuman 21:15, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
At sysop level you can delete pages -- wiping the page views.
That's the only thing I can think of, really. Far better to do a TK and hold out for bureaucracy. With a bit of creativity, BureauPowers can do lasting damage. Not that I'd condone that sort of thing. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!Winner of the Best Conversation Award 2008! Good work everyone! 21:23, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Personally, if I had the patience to do a Bugler, I'd go for javascript in main.js to steal sessions, change passwords (and email addresses) and then redirect to a shemale porn site. But that's just me. I'm far too liberal for my own good. --JeevesMkII 00:19, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
You know, what surprises me is that for all of our speculation, no one has bothered to try and crack Aschlafly's password and really wreak some havoc. Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:35, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Did TK ever actually get bureaucrat powers, though? Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:36, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
No, TK never got the office keys. Like all good totalitarian leaders Andy doesn't trust the thugs around him with too much power. The only active (and I use that term loosely) bureaucrats are SharonS (one of his carefully groomed pet homeskollars) and Jallen (a relatively inoffensive Sheila who confines herself largely to administrative matters). ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 02:06, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

## Wandering

So, thats the end of User:Wandering over at CP. I know I have mentioned it before but I am always in awe of Ed Poors ability to come along and fuck everything up within minutes. Ace McWickedwhisky 21:54, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

There is an old saying around wikis, "it takes Ed one minute to undo one months work by competent editors". ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 22:00, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I was watching earlier, the minute he showed up, he set in on a bunch of the more productive non-crazy editors. Way to keep the morale up, Ed! Can't imagine what happened to that WP adminship. --Kels 22:03, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I like how he was blocked for "opposing the project", isn't this Ed's proposal rather than actual policy? Actually deleting articles because they are esoteric is an essay by Ed not policy. It seems he gets an idea in his head it is now policy. Like Andy he writes and essay and it becomes truth and articles are adjusted accordingly. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 22:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
This is a "proxy call out" to PJR with Wandering as the scapegoat. Should PJR raise to the bait lulz will ensue...Philip will lose sysopship since Ed is obviously extorting Aschlafly or footing the bandwidth bill until Andy gets Mom to cough up more dough. CЯacke® 22:40, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
MOER: The call out is over this here, note the edit summary for Wandering's last block.
Ed has nothing on Andy. Look at how he grovels when he has nothing to show Andy for a month. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 22:56, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
To his credit, he did manage to block some productive editors and alienate some more, so he hasn't been totally idle. --Kels 22:58, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Why does he do this? He goes around to Andy once a month and tells him all about his crappy little stub articles and Andy tells him how good it is and how much he has learnt (an obvious lie). He must view Andy as a strong authority figure as he so desperately needs his approval. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:03, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
He's obviously susceptible to authority figures: Rev Moon - Andy Schlafly. If L Ron had got there first he probably have been ..., or he might have been a KoolFlavor ade drinker. The guy's obviously suggestible cult fodder.  ContribsTalk 23:11, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I think it's more the power thing. Guy like Andy gives Ed a gun, and Ed takes this as a sign to go shoot up the "bad guys" Old West style. Except Ed ends up shooting his deputies, too. And his horse...and that cactus that looks at him funny. Not that that necessarily negates the susceptibility to cult-like behaviour. But Ed's actions, to me, anyway, seem to stem more from being a narcissistic dick than being a drone. --YossieSpring in Fialta 00:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
"... but I did not shoot the deputy". I laffed. Nice sig, too. How's that blow-up dinghy thingy working out for you? Yossarion! Get on that plane! ħuman 00:11, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
But please put some clothes on first.   ContribsTalk 00:16, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

<undent>Thank you, I'm quite proud of the sig. Though, Jellyfish! was very helpful in the finicky technical details. As for the dinghy...I lost my orrs. :( To SusanG: that's not going to happen. --YossieSpring in Fialta 00:18, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

That book is, IMHO, probably the best book of the 20th century. I've bought it at least 12 times - having worn it out or loaned & lost it or just lost it. I love every page.   ContribsTalk 00:22, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
I have no idea what book you're talking about. Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:37, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Catch 22.   ContribsTalk 00:40, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Wow, RA, you need to get out (or in) more... ħuman 00:55, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Specially as a good(?) Jewish (?) boy.   ContribsTalk 00:58, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
*looks suggestively at SusanG* Call me a naughty Jewish boy. Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 01:06, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Err... I've got a great nephew older than I suspect you are!!!   ContribsTalk 01:17, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Um, you realize you are trying to seduce a goyim with a girlfriend? Quit grossing us out and contribute to this trusworthy resource!! ħuman 01:15, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

## Ed's Getting Cranky

Ed "math genius" Poor has taken a shine to Stephen Wolfram. Inevitable lulz ensue...--Antifly 22:11, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

I really like the edit comment on one of those links:"(We need not copy Wikipedia's anti-scientific bias)"   ContribsTalk 23:01, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I am glad I just made some modifications to my irony meter it could have burnt out otherwise. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:04, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Oh no even the RW 3.0 IM could withstand "(It's a better math encyclopedia than Wikipedia, so lost the scare quotes)". Oh well maybe they will build one at CERN that could withstand that. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:07, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I'm working on the bugs, the RW 3.1 IM should be available shortly, and it's an easy patch to upgrade previous versions. HINT: It ain't running MS software - that was the biggest bug. ħuman 23:18, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
The patches and software updates are good but could the hardware really survive the statement that Conservapedia is a better maths encyclopedia than Wikipedia. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:24, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
It's a bit of an evolutionary arms race, I try to keep my improovmints ahead of their next brilliang statements. Still, protection circuits and logarithmic algorithms go a along way to avoiding burnouts. ħuman 00:19, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
It is hard work I know Human. Keep up the good work, the future of the internet depends on it. ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 00:21, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Ed was saying that Mathworld is a better maths encyclopedia than Wikipedia. Still wrong, but not as wrong as CP is a better maths encyclopedia than Wikipedia. He's definately delusional, but has yet to reach the gold standard set by Andy.--Antifly 23:38, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

I see more and more people are calling Andy on his "triangular trade is a liberal myth" bullshit (see cp:Triangular trade for the latest), and yet Andy's been ignoring this entirely. Usually he makes up some BS ("Pinochet was innocent", "gossip is only gossip when I say it is") but in this case he's ignoring it entirely. Is it possible he realizes he said some unbelievably stupid stuff and thinks he can make it go away by ignoring it? The only times Andy ever admitted he has been wrong has been about minor things he could dismiss as typos or minor misunderstandings that he could easily dismiss. In this case, he has something he obviously thought about too much to dismiss as a minor error due to paying insufficient attention to the subject (he went out of his way to dismiss a universally held belief). He either has to: 1) make up utterly fanciful and completely unreferenced accusations to back up his hackneyed assumptions, 2) admit he didn't examine the situation sufficiently and admit he made an overly hasty assumption based on nothing, or 3) ignore it and pretend no one ever said anything. I guess the last is the only option it is in his power to consider. DickTurpis 23:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

I am guessing there'll be a few "You're Clueless" being thrown around before this one is settled. Ace McWickedwhisky 23:24, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I'd like to see September be a banner month for cluelesses, since August was so slow :( ħuman 23:54, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
That would involve him actually responding, and therefore keeping the issue alive. I think he's going to ignore all contradictions, thus making his assertions all the more unassailable. DickTurpis 23:26, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
See it's brought AliceBG out of near retirement.   ContribsTalk 23:29, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I don't understand his problem, it is simple economics the slaves have to be bought with something that could otherwise not be obtained in Western Africa otherwise, why sell slaves? ${\displaystyle \approx }$${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:30, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Please! You're confusing Andy's brain with such talk! DickTurpis 23:33, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
The sad consequence of Andy's latest ostrich impression is that he will be teaching this crap to the "largest ever" history class in the fall. A group of young impressionable students gets to be misled by this asshat simply because he is too vain to admit his mistake.--Antifly 23:44, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

## Not WiGo worthy but

Resident idiot Jpatt has decided that there's only ever been one Senator from Arizona. As long as you're making useless redirects, Jpatt, why not cp:The Senior Republican Senator from the state of Arizona John Sidney McCain? DickTurpis 23:33, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

And you forgot cp:some cranky old Viet Vet who thinks Diebold will hook him up with an eighth house. ħuman 00:21, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

## Not WIGO-worthy, but... Ed gets "Pedophile" wrong

No, Ed, a pedophile is not someone who molests children. It is someone who is sexually attracted to children. Someone like Andy... (Whoops! Did I say that?)