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:::Stupid is as stupid does. I don't care about your brilliance nor your website. I am against capitol punishment, the person should rot in jail. The guilty put to death is nowhere near a crime. --[[Special:Contributions/193.200.150.137|193.200.150.137]] ([[User talk:193.200.150.137|talk]]) 17:22, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Stupid is as stupid does. I don't care about your brilliance nor your website. I am against capitol punishment, the person should rot in jail. The guilty put to death is nowhere near a crime. --[[Special:Contributions/193.200.150.137|193.200.150.137]] ([[User talk:193.200.150.137|talk]]) 17:22, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Thank you. I wasn't getting enough roughage today. Your word salad is just the thing I needed. [[User:DickTurpis|DickTurpis]] ([[User talk:DickTurpis|talk]]) 17:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 
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Presidential height wigo

Height doesn't appear to be completely irrelevant: e.g. http://www.hackwriters.com/tall.htm. What would It would say about Palin's chances I wonder.

Ed's Momma

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There is a broader, perhaps slightly less biased, article on Wikipedia about Riva_Poor

Wroted a booky wookimg. (Note the Edit commentimg) 22:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC) SusanG  ContribsTalk

I wonder if Ed's mummy dearest is an anarchist? The 4 day work week is a very typical anarchist plank. I guess if you're dumb enough for moonieism, them more or less any other movement that promises you free cake can count on your vote. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 23:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
I actually like the article, I think it is the most productive thing I have ever seen come from Ed. ETA: It is of course a sub and needs to be re-written, but it's still a contribution. --Opcn (talk) 00:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there anything of substance to this man, or does he have to continue riding of the coattails of his ancestors? Right now the best purpose I can see him serving is to visit schools and warn children to do their best to avoid becoming Ed Poor. This would at least provide a welcome break from screwing the dead. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 00:45, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
How dare you! maligning the personality[sic] of user 188, the famous creator of the Age template at Wikipedia. Are these not qualifications enough for one man? 00:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC) SusanG  ContribsTalk
Granted, that is impressive, although not as amazing as his one-man attempt to categorise movies featuring coaches with eleven year-old daughters. Still, I'm sure someone could use his kidneys. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 01:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Ed's edit comments on the WP page for her are kinda funny. Corry (talk) 01:34, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Problem with the 4 x 10 hour work week in manufacturing, at least, is it screws up the "overtime equation". To get the magic time and a half (and the extra production mgmt needs) people either have to work really long days, or come in on Friday, a day they probably made plans for. PS, I improved the WP article, because I can. The CP article is still as it was. ħumanUser talk:Human 03:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I'll admit that Ed's Riva Poor article isn't too bad, in that Ed resisted the temptation add one of his "related to the WP editor, Ed Poor" notes. It made me think that if Ed had been born the n'er do well son of Caesar, he'd have spent his time wandering around the empire, scrawling "father of Edus Poorious" on any any monument raised to Caesar. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 11:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
(@human) Perhaps the economy shouldn't be organized around the needs of the managers... — Pietrow 14:48, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
The OT part is based on the needs of hourly employees. The 40 hour 4 day week fails both workers and employers. Now, the 32 hour 4 day, on the other hand... ħumanUser talk:Human 22:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I thought that was given when talking about 4 day weeks? After 8 hours you just get tired and make mistakes (well at least I do). — Pietrow 10:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Incompetent Obama

OH NOEZ! Incompetent Obama has 915.000 hits on Google... to put it into perspective, here are a few other significant hits on Google.

TOFU FREEDOM - 575.000 hits. RENAISSANCE PORN - 713.000 hits. PIZZA BASTARD - 870.000 hits. OBAMA ORIGAMI - 1.720.000 hits. WATERMELON GLORY - 1.870.000 hits. MICROWAVE OBAMA - 2.450.000 hits. BEETHOVEN OBAMA - 9.580.000 hits.

...what significant insight on public opinion can be gathered from this? --Maquissar (talk) 14:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

CONSERVATIVE RETARD: 1,920,000. DickTurpis (talk) 14:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Conservative Idiot: ~6 million hits. K61824[Talk needed] 07:54, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
If you guys think you know more about the internets than Ken, then go ahead and take it by storm like he did. Are you #3 in China? Didn't think so. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 14:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Every time I see another Ken rank wank, I see this Dresdon Codak t-shirt. HumanisticJones (talk) 15:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Gentleman Maquissar, has it occurred to you that the high number of hits for Watermelon Glory is because of Operation Watermelon Glory which is due to begin by the Ides of May? Operation Watermelon Glory will certainly be the Waterloo for atheism on the internet. Expect further developments as prominent Creationists including some who have published books and have many results when you search for their names on a certain search engine beginning with "g" will link to Conservapedia's articles on atheism as part of Operation Watermelon Glory! Stay tuned for further details! Kendoll (talk) 15:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Operation Wabid Wombat! Ravenhull (talk) 20:38, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

"Bush antichrist" returns over three million hits. If that doesn't prove... something, I don't know what does! MDB (talk) 16:05, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

CREATIONIST MOTHERFUCKER - 1,690,000 Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 16:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Ken has undermined his own argument significantly in regards to Obama searches. His example of a paradigm wearing mighty thin, "obama is the chosen one", gets 3,110,000 hits. Even within his own reality he is wrong. Internetmoniker (talk) 16:16, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

OBAMA EXCELLENT - 46 million. Totnesmartin (talk) 16:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC) http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Obama+Giraffehttp://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Obama+Giraffe

Compared to two-term president + one-term dad + governor brother: BUSH EXCELLENT - 26 million Bondurant (talk) 16:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
And the shrubbery. And the anatomical meaning. DickTurpis (talk) 16:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh yes, and the electronics manufacturer. Bondurant (talk) 17:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
They also had a hit with "Glycerine". Internetmoniker (talk) 19:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Schlafy AND Dingbat gets 1580 which is pretty good going Ian — Unsigned, by: 128.240.229.3 / talk / contribs 16:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Obama is great 131 MILLION! It is definitive.
mentions his wife quite often (forget her name - senilty hello!) She is credited as joint author on some of the stuff I believe. Prolly not a wikiholic like Bert. Or I can imagine her saying "Enough, already, time to move on"? 03:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalkaq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= Also, 21 million hits. Back to the drawing board Ken.
Internetmoniker (talk) 17:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
PALIN EXCELLENT (including, one presumes, the genuinely excellent Michael Palin) : 7.4 million. Bondurant (talk) 18:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
By the way, a certain LucyJ has pointed this out on Conservapedia. I'm curious to see what they will answer her. And the news about Operation Watermelon Glory are truly distressing! We should plan a proper counter-operation. Step one, of course, is choosing a cool name. --Maquissar (talk) 20:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
UPDATE. Apparently TK thinks that the mainstream media should cover the fact that "Obama incompetent" has about 900.000 hits on Google. Here's what he wrote: "News items are not encyclopedic. They are intended to convey to our audience thoughtful, often provoking, interesting news items not typically conveyed in the liberal MSM."
Dear TK, this is very well worded, but a bit inaccurate; so allow me to be a bit less diplomatic now, and rephrase the same message in a more blunt, but also more precise formulation. This is how I think it should read:
"News items are not supposed to have any correlation with the real world. They are intentehttp://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Obama+Giraffed to pursue our own agenda, glorify conservatives and discredit liberals, by showing facts and quotes taken out of context or distorted in some other way, something that the mainstream media somehow still fails to do satisfactorily."
Well, I am afraid that there is some lexical confusion here, TK. You see, there is a word for this type of "information", not meant to reflect reality but to convince people of something, whether it's true or not. It is called propaganda. --Maquissar (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
He! Google: Obama Giraffe: 518,000 22:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
Chaney Satan Less than you'd think at only 402,000. Obama satan a wopping 2.8 million. But spot the difference in the nature of the top links to each. Bondurant (talk) 22:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC),
Sorry Ken. but Obama good gets 140 million hits. EddyP (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

So irrelevant is Ken's babbling here. All that searching Obama and evil does is show what sites/articles have the words Obama and evil on the page. To prove a point, a search of tea face returns over 70m hits, proving just how meaningless any of this shit is. SJ Debaser 17:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The only thing google is good for (besides finding web pages about stuff you want to know) is the game of finding a search criteria that returns exactly one hit. Then the game site adds it, eliminating it and giving you 20 internet pointzes. ħumanUser talk:Human 03:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Googlewhackery is what really got Dave Gorman into the (UK) public eye. SusanGContribsTalk 03:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
KENDOLL ASSBAG - 2810 hits. Not too shabby! Corry (talk) 07:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Bert

Having flogged the KAL007 horse to death, CP's resident OCD sufferer proceeds to resurrect the corpse in various new guises:

and that's just today's emissions. Seriously, I know he lost family on board, but the man needs counseling or something. At the moment he's making Andy's "0 mental illness" claims look dodgy. Oh wait, Ed and Ken have already blown that out of the water. --PsygremlinПоговорите!

He is not just doing it on CP, he is quite active over at WP as well. For example, he is the reason the Wikipedia article on Boris Yeltsin has a section on KAL 007 that is almost as big as the section on his second term. Internetmoniker (talk) 10:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
There's a lot of people at CP I view with contempt because they're idiots and/or assholes, but Bert, I just pity. The man suffered a horrific loss a quarter century ago, and he still hasn't moved on. You're right, he needs counseling. MDB (talk) 10:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
I agree on the need for counseling, but until then, could somebody at least make him read the basic help files? It's just strange to see Mr. Sysop Lite (edit/upload/block) with 1,800+ edits asking how to insert referencesimg when the CP Commandments even link to a dedicated help file. He's so obsessed dedicated and yet can't be arsed to even leave his "KAL007 KAL007 KAL007" path for five minutes to learn how his publishing platform works? --Sid (talk) 12:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
I've always basically ignored Bert, and never looked into his ramblings, but I just noticed he believes that KAL007 landed safely on the water and the passengers were hauled off to Soviet prisons, where they may remain til this day. He is certainly crazy enough for Conservapedia. DickTurpis (talk) 12:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Well that maybe explains the not moving on part. If he thought his relative had been killed in the crash maybe he could have come to terms with that, but if he really does think there's a possibility that they're still alive somewhere then that's a lot harder to move on from isn't it? I'm sure most people would feel they have to do whatever they can to find the missing person.71.227.237.132 (talk)
Actually it is sometimes harder to move on if you don't have a body to bury. The families of soldiers who are MIA or whose children disappear can suffer extended anxiety as opposed to those who are able to complete their grief by knowing what has happened. That said, and without wanting to sound like a hard-hearted cow, it is interesting that it is Bert who is making all the running with the tragedy rather than his wife. Of course it may be his way of helping her although prolonging the hope in the possibility of life sounds rather cruel.  Lily Inspirate me. 02:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
So, in many ways he's a one man version of the people who don't want any kind of 'normalized' relations with Vietnam until they return all those living POW/MIA's there. Do gotta feel a bit sorry for him. Ravenhull (talk) 02:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
EC) He mentions his wife quite often (forget her name - senilty hello!) She is credited as joint author on some of the stuff I believe. Prolly not a wikiholic like Bert. Or I can imagine her saying "Enough, already, time to move on"? 03:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
I imagine it as more of a folie a deux. Burndall (talk) 12:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Ed Poor tidbit

I do like the delicious irony in the latest Ed Poor WIGO (and well done to the WIGO writer for not using the term "irony meter"), but my favourite part is the edit comment. How does Ed know that liberals hate pointless 81byte stubs about crap films? DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 00:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Concise, accurate, no-nonsense article. "The Celestine Prophecy" is, in fact, a movie. Ed got 100% of his facts right. --Maquissar (talk) 01:29, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't get that edit comment either, "liberal" moonbats are pretty much the target audience for that book & movie. Internetmoniker (talk) 10:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Unless Ed is getting self-referential and by "this sort of thing" he means his Ed-stubs and by "liberals" he means us, in which case, we don't hate them, Ed, we just find them a source of mirth (about as much as you calling Lara Croft "slutty"), coming from the much-vaunted user 188. --PsygremlinSermā! 11:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
So I just looked at CP's Tomb Raider article and noticed a few things. First off, it's complete and well written. Where did they steal it from? I looked into wikipedia, but I don't see it there. Second, about 95% of the article was done by Karajou.... Guess we know what the swabbie does when he finishes with the "girl in the yellow dress." SirChuckBGo Naked, Hitler Wore Clothes 20:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Houston Andy, we have a problem

Upgrade probs?img 07:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk

All the header and skin information appears twice and there is no close html tag, what a mess. - π 07:09, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Originally I thought that was just me and my Konqueror. Oh well, at least I now know it's their problem. ThiehAsk me for relationship advice 07:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Andy trying to show us how he sees the world every day by 5p.m.? -- (talk) 09:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Bible in school libraries

Is the moaning idiot right? I'd expect every library to have a bible: it is literature a good fun book whatever your viewpoint. As part of the heritage it ought to be there. 07:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk

In a subsequent post, he says RationalWiki is barred from his school computers. I am going to guess "parodist." Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 07:23, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
the schools I attended had several versions of the BIble. There is no legal restriction on a school having them, or using them in comparative religion , social studies or english classes. I could understand a school not investing in them though if they dont use them much. Hamster (talk) 07:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Then someone would cry out loud that they should burn the books on evolution from school library as well, as a fairness issue. Thieh[Talk needed] 07:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I have 5 or 6 of them. I consider it my duty to have them on hand. ħumanUser talk:Human 09:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I doubt that anything that calls itself a "library" could possibly not have at least a few couples of the Bible. I mean, it's the book that had the greatest impact on Western culture and literature. --Maquissar (talk) 11:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Second greatest. You just can't beat "How to get Girls by Hypnosis". –SuspectedReplicant retire me 12:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I also have 6 of them. I consider it my duty to have screwed 5 of them together to use them as a doorstop and to have hollowed 1 of them out to hide the porn from my ex-girlfriend. 15:57, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I have my trusty and infallible KJV. Tempted to pick-up an NIV. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 16:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Maybe he was only looking in the 'science' section... StarDelta (talk) 21:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I suppose he could be right: anyone wanting to consult the Good Book would probably have their own copy. The same would be difficult for all the books on (e.g.) Evolution. They've probably just one copy that hasn't even had its pages cut. 21:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk

Another question on English

Is it lying lowimg, laying low, or some other phrases? (I know that with Ken it should take more than 4 edits, but still) K61824Insomnia? Masturbate till you pass out 16:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Both technically make sense, and reference.com's aggregation stuff seems to recognize both in some way. That said, "lay" always sounds better than "lie"[citation NOT needed], and anything Ken writes is wrong by definition. ~ Kupochama[1][2] 16:57, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Chickens "lay." Everything else is "lie." So says Mrs. Practice's grandmother. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 19:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I would try to make fun by saying "From what Mrs. Practice's grandmother said, people got 'lied', not 'laid'", but that'd be beyond my linguistic ability. ThiehZOYG I edit like Kenservative! 19:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I think the idea is that "lay" means "putting something down"--laying an egg, laying pipe, laying a new floor, and "lie" is positioning one's self in relation to the ground....TheoryOfPractice (talk) 20:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Granny G said something similar: you lay a table but lie on a table. 20:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
But a chick can also get laid on a table? --GTac (talk) 20:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
"Many times: many, many times." (UK oldies [Round the Horne] humour) 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
I'm going from memory on this. "To lay" means "to place". (I'm going to lay the book on the table) "To lie" means "to put yourself in a horizontal position". (I'm going to lie on the floor.) There are also various idiomatic and set usages. --BobIt's windy! 20:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
That's lying down the law on the matter! ħumanUser talk:Human 22:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of English, have a guess who wrote this belter: Barack Obama's diplomacy skills are substandard and members of the British government are displeased and some citizens of the British public are displeased. Three "ands" in quick succession, but not a comma in sight. It can be only one! DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 01:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it boggled my mind when I read it. 02:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
I only count two "ands". But it's still a wonderful piece of illiteracy, as were his next dozen edits to MPR. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:20, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
D'oh! How can I criticise someone's writing when my reading is just as shit. I'm blaming it on the repetition of "displeased" casuing my brain to fail. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 02:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone seriously considering using Conservapedia as proofreading exercise in their English class (If anyone is teaching it)? ThiehWhat is NOT going on? 03:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah! Maybe that's the masterplan! Assfly is planning to teach an english writing course (whatever happened to that?), so maybe he diliberately gets his admins to fill CP with hideous abuses of the english language, and it's the homeskullers' homework to spot them? Boy, will we feel stupid then! DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 04:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Apparently the INTERNET writing course has been delayed by snow. Too lazy to link, but it's on Aschlafly's talk page. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Ask, and you shall receiveimg. By the way, shall that be WIGO'd? ThiehLooking for potion recipes 12:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I knew US infrastructure is obsolete and fragile, especially as regards to small business internet connectivity, but... the fiber freezing shut? Can it be really that bad? Mountain Blue 14:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Supposedly the copper becomes superconductor and the electrical resistance screws up somehow at the local level if you call that the worst case scenario, I would think. Thieh"6+18=24" 20:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Subediting the Bible

I do hope someone's checking for typos. They might wind up with the Adulterous Bible if they're not careful. 05:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk

They aren't - the "live" pdf version is full of them. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Notice they haven't started on the song of Solomon yet. Isn't that the one with breasts as flocks of goats or similar? 06:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
"Come...blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits." Let's see what they do with that!--WJThomas (talk) 12:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
The traditional conservative Christian response to Song of Solomon is that its an allegory for God's love for the Church, and its not about sex at all, huh-uh, no way, no how. Which is crap. It might also be an allegory, but its pretty clearly about intimate love.
There's one passage in there, though I can't remember which one exactly, that I managed to crack up a former pastor of mine by describing it as saying "why don't we go do it in the yard?" MDB (talk) 14:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Song of Solomon ain't got nothin' on Ezekiel 23:19-20: "Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --98.204.160.254 (talk) 06:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The fun (or sad) part is that I wrote TK an e-mail telling him about the typos and misspellings in 1 Corinthians 1-8, and I wrote a list of corrections, saying that it's more fun to criticize their ideas than their ortography - but I guess he just doesn't read my emails anymore. But would they accept spelling corrections from a godless lie-beral anyway? ;) --Maquissar (talk) 14:21, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Dead guy goes on tour

Andy is absolutely certain that Kim Jong Il is dead, and that we're clueless for not believing his magnificently precise guess. But for a dead guy, Kim sure goes on a lot of tours recently.[2]--ADtalkModerator 05:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

No, Andy is certain that Felix the Castrator is dead. Please pay attention. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Can't they all be dead? Crushed by the logic of the bible...--Opcn (talk) 06:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Kim appears to have only one anorak style jacket. (or lots of identical ones) 06:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
I guess when you're a brutal megalomaniac with the power of life and death over your subjects, fashion is what you say it is. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 13:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Heck, if you can make 2+2=5, you can make any kind of fashion statement you want. Tetronian you're clueless 11:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Views per Namespace

all name-spaces at CP
eight name-spaces at CP
pages in main space at aSK, RW, CP, and Citizendium
all name-spaces at RW
eight name-spaces at RW
all pages at aSL, RW, CP + wikifactor

Discuss (just a try :-) larronsicut fur in nocte 06:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thick me: what's "Rank"? 06:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
The pages are just ordered by the number of views they get. So: page rank n = n-th most viewed page larronsicut fur in nocte 06:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Without going to the images, are the scales the same for both/all? ħumanUser talk:Human 06:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
No, they are not. For a direct comparison, look here:
larronsicut fur in nocte 07:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Wow, thanks! ħumanUser talk:Human 07:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Magic! 07:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
Thicky's back. What's a "wikifactor" 11:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)##
wikifactor is an rather obscure but useful metric for the impact of a wiki-site. It's based on the wp:h-index (The h-index is an index that attempts to measure both the scientific productivity and the apparent scientific impact of a scientist. ) for scientific publications. larronsicut fur in nocte 14:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

In the (hidden) table, the effects of the creative archiving of pages at conservapedia is shown. larronsicut fur in nocte 17:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Confused Jesus

"And to the married, I order this-- No, wait, it's not me, but the Lord who says this-- A wife should not leave her husband."

A moment of aberration, or a more calculated denial of trinitarian doctine? Perhaps it's just that voices are sometimes difficult to hear even when they're in your own head... MaxAlex Swimming pool 08:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

That's 1st Corinthians, meaning its Paul speaking, not Jesus. No contradictions there -- the earlier parts have Paul saying "its just me, Paul", but this time, he says "this is from God Himself, not just me." MDB (talk) 08:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Speaker aside, it was the "no, wait" bit that caught my eye. I'm not saying it's a contradiction - just a very odd turn of phrase which doesn't do much for the speaker's authority. MaxAlex Swimming pool 13:20, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
For another example of an odd, tin-eared, anachronistic turn of phrase, there's "You're allowed to do what I'm saying, but it's not mandatory." There's also "abstenance" at the top of the diff. Maybe one day we will build a machine that can check people's spelling. Cantabrigian (talk)
The "no wait" part was just stupid. Even if they're going for modern phrasing, something like "this comes from the authority of the Lord, it is not just my advice" would work far better. MDB (talk) 14:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
...especially since it's a capital-E Epistle, a solemn formal memorandum, methodically drafted as a document to be preserved for generations. Hard to imagine he'd have allowed himself to sound like a snarker on a blog comment thread. Mountain Blue 14:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

You act as if DanielPulido isn't a parodist. User:FineCheesesUser talk:FineCheeses 18:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

At this point, who can tell who is and is not a parodist at CP? Hell, I'm not even sure the entire site isn't a parody and "Andy Schlafly" isn't laughing his head off at the people who think he's serious. MDB (talk) 18:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Take a swim in my parody pool and place your bets ;) MaxAlex Swimming pool 22:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Conservapedia running stats 5, Kendoll's version

Has this been discussed (for some odd reason it starts at 2, and I can't find the one unenumerated one or the one with index 1) or does it require attention at all? K61824What is going on? 12:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

The one without index is here. Easy if you have a mirror on your local file system you can run find and ls on. :) I don't see how it requires attention though. Mountain Blue 13:38, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
It is very important because we see how we liberal atheists are losing the battle. Every time I see those pages I weep. Internetmoniker (talk) 14:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think that cp:User:Conservative knows which of his perhaps 100 sub-pages (hereimg and hereimg) are somewhat of relevance... larronsicut fur in nocte 15:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
For those who are curious, Conservative has a more-or-less complete index of his subpages on his talk page. I guess those links are too petty and meaningless to put on his user page - they'd only distract from the important things like the list of every song he's ever heard. Anyway, his subpages are a hoot, especially the half-finished pages listed under "sandbox." This one's my favorite. Colonel of Squirrels (talk) 15:43, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
The fruit of the prickly pear cactus... is he talking about himself? Mountain Blue 15:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
The in(s)anity of those subpages! Could anyone who was active here and on CP in 2007 explain what thisimg is? Weird. Internetmoniker (talk) 16:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Fucked if I know. Weren't there some experiments with obscenity filters once? mb 18:29, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
If I had to guess, I'd say it was him trying to understand how wandals kept sneaking past the word blacklist. Such sysop experiments also gave us "Hot. Science. RationalWiki", after all. --Sid (talk) 18:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I've wondered about that one. What's the story there? DickTurpis (talk) 19:10, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Then again, since he's CP's resident expert on anal sex, that might have been him trying to edit his own pet articles. --Sid (talk) 18:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Hot. Science. Sandbox.

Since the question about "Hot. Science. RationalWiki" came up:

There you go, a handy history lesson. =P --Sid (talk) 11:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Cartoon about Phyllis Schlafly / Texas board of education

Is now at The saloon bar. CS Miller (talk) 19:29, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thats kinda lame I don't get it. --Radioactive PIzza (talk) 21:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Immature trolling or completely accurate?

Or can it be both?img DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 21:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Or quite possibly, both. CS Miller (talk) 21:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Bold text--Radioactive PIzza (talk) 21:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC) HAHAHA what a tool!!!
Oversighted already. Thieh[Talk needed] 09:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Freedom of Speech

This is just too perfect. If anyone here has an unused sock, now would be a great time to head over there and add some inconvenient facts to their articles. Nothing snarky, just add some genuine truths and see how long it takes them to get shot down. Colonel of Squirrels (talk) 02:21, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

one more that might be added to the wigo as a PS. That whole story made my brains turn inside out. "Huffpo censors crazy ex-wrestler for being 9/11 truther!" Also, I was amazed at how many people everywhere can't parse "levels" of truthism - all Venture is questioning is why and how WTC7 was brought down, and he's basing his query on what might be a very legitimate petitiony thing. Big question I did not see anywhere: are some buildings built with demolition materials already in place, knowing none will last "forever"? Or not, ever? ħumanUser talk:Human 03:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I haven't looked into this petition, but Venture's claims are straight Trutherism. He certainly uses all their memes - thermite, free-fall acceleration, "straight down into their own footprint," the obsession with WTC7, etc. There may well be degrees of crazy among Truthers - say, between those who proffer conspiracy theories and those in the "government let it happen" camp. However, Ventura clearly falls into the "9/11 was an inside job" camp (he wouldn't have shown up on Alex Jones's site otherwise) so I think your concern is unfounded. Colonel of Squirrels (talk) 05:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
JacobB now has a FBI all for him alone: Lagrange... larronsicut fur in nocte 06:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
My God, he oversited that entire conversation. Jacob has been taking lessons from TK. Their deceit knows no bounds. Keegscee (talk) 07:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
He's learning from a pro. Tetronian you're clueless 11:43, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Wow! he gets oversight handed to him straight up. The CBP has benefits! Even Ed and TK had to wait for their 'promotions' to oversight ability. Clearly the need for deceitful cover-ups over there has become great. Lovely to see Jacob oversighting people pointing out his own lies. Straight from the TK book of How to be a Cunt. Well done to Jacob for overtaking Bugler as Best Parodist on CP. --PsygremlinSiarad! 13:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I dunno, I'm still more of a Bugler fan. He operated more through hilarious ad-homs, whereas 90% of Jacob's actions are blocks rather than parodic comments/additions to articles. Tetronian you're clueless 13:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
In that respect I agree (altho I'm biased against Bugler, thanks to the sleepless nights he gave me over on CP). However, no other RW mole has managed to get oversight before. Maybe he can go for bureaucrat next. --PsygremlinSnakk! 13:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
It is odd that Jacob got oversight rights so quickly - perhaps he has had some private chats with Andy? In any case, it would be awesome if he becomes a 'crat. I wonder what he would do with it. Tetronian you're clueless 13:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
AFAIK none of the current goon squad were given oversight at the time of their sysop promotion. Karajerk, Ed, TK and JPratt were all "promoted" to oversight last year, as Andy felt the need to cover up more and more.PsygremlinSiarad! 13:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
It is ironic how Andy repeatedly claims that "CP doesn't censor" in spite of his liberal (haha) oversight policy. Tetronian you're clueless 14:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

(Unindent) I think Bugler was the best parodist of all time, in that parody is supposed to be funny. Bugler's brilliant work made me laugh out loud many times, and I'm snorting right now just remembering some choice examples. JacobB, on the other hand, is occasionally funny, but he's far more akin to TK than to Bugler. Jerkishness for the sake of jerkishness isn't funny. And yet, I think a case can be made that JacobB is the greatest parodist of all time, for at least two reasons. First, no parodist has ever earned the rights he has. Second, his encouraging Andy to jump in with the CBP led directly to a lot of attention to CP from the outside, culminating in the appearance on Colbert. Not all of that is on Jacob, but he needs to get some credit.

If you're reading this Jacob (and I'm pretty sure he is), why not try taking more inspiration from Bugler and less from TK? Burndall (talk) 14:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I second that. Nicely put, Burndall! Tetronian you're clueless 14:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I concur. However, Jacob good at getting little digs in, like reminding usimg that Holy St Ronnie's wife consulted an astrologer, even though there's a special place in hELL for them. --PsygremlinPraat! 15:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
It's gone.img Burndall (talk) 17:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
It's back again!img. JacobB is teasing TK again. This can't end well. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 18:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

More Jpatt Twitter Stupidity

Anything to pass the time while I'm hot and bored here.
"Rape is no excuse to kill another human being" says the stupid one, who clearly has no problem with a woman being lumped with an unwanted child on top of the trauma of being sexually assaulted. Let's hope it's a situation he's never faced with.

However, taking Johnny's statement a bit further, it would appear as if several justice systems disagree with you, Johnny boy.[3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] Or is it the Conservative double standard about "Aw, he's too tiny, Festus. Throw it back, we'll get it when it's big." --PsygremlinSermā! 13:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Very ironic that a strong pro-death penalty conservative would be make such an extreme statement.... Guess we know how Jpatt stands on capitol punishment. SirChuckBA product of Affirmative Action 16:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
At least people who say fetus=human being are consistent when they reject abortions for rape victims. Certainly no one would condone killing a baby who was born from rape, and in their view it's the same thing. (The notion that they are the same is, of course, ridiculous, but given that they hold these views I can at least appreciate the consistency. This logic also seems to condone the murdering of abortion doctors.) DickTurpis (talk) 16:18, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Stupid is as stupid does. I don't care about your brilliance nor your website. I am against capitol punishment, the person should rot in jail. The guilty put to death is nowhere near a crime. --193.200.150.137 (talk) 17:22, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I wasn't getting enough roughage today. Your word salad is just the thing I needed. DickTurpis (talk) 17:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh the agony of insults. You know if ou rearrange the letters in your name- it spells sick turd pi--193.200.150.152 (talk) 23:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Truly a thing of Beauty

From the ABC News Forums (they linkied to moi's blog! glee!). I'm not sure who Razmanian Devil is, but I think I love him:

Sadly, I know Andrew from my law school days and time has not mellowed him in any respect. He is still a collosal jerk from the looks of it.
--PsygremlinParla! 15:20, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to make comments about Andy without all the rabid hate you'll display. Something to ponder. RobSmithdon't bother me 19:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
What? Is that an actual question? Megaten (talk) 19:55, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Something to ponder indeed... — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 20:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Reds under beds small.svgDon't Feed The Paranoiac
20:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC) SusanGContribsTalk
Good blog post there, Gremlin. Yup, that poor son of Phyllis is having a rough time of it. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 22:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Truly a thing of Beauty, part II

Sorry, Psygremlin, but I really couldn't think of any better title. Read Andy's new statement on censorship policy at Conservapedia. ... Just WHERE do we start? --Maquissar (talk) 15:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, some parts of that statementimg are true in a way: "Our rules are specific and their application is clear and almost never disputable." - Absolutely true when you consider that the various rules are tailored explicitly to favor sysops and that most people end up being banhammered for all eternity with mail disabled. Oh, and let's not forget that if you manage to contact sysops, they will show their true colors and will either tell you to accept that you're wrong by default or drop some more abuse on you, followed by a quick "I never said that! He's obviously faking these mails and is thus a lying liberal! Good thing I banned him before he could hurt the project!" if you expose said abuse. --Sid (talk) 15:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm not going to edit the WIGO again, but Ed Poor just called raised Andy with his statementimg "We have articles on every viewpoint, and I myself am particularly devoted to controversial ideas." Honestly, they're just begging for vandalism at this point. Colonel of Squirrels (talk) 16:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I understand blocking for "liberal vandalism", but how can you block for "inserting liberal multiculturalism and world view" and say you do not censor anyone for their ideas? Really, people at Conservapedia... if ANY of you is reading this, please make a RW account and come here to partecipate in the discussion, because, I admit it, the logic of this keeps eluding me. I promise I will treat you fairly and not abuse you, censor you, or block you, but PLEASE, explain to me just HOW this works, from a purely logical point of view. --Maquissar (talk) 16:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I promise to block you, but never for more than 3.15 seconds --Opcn (talk) 19:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I and my sock (D something or other...) feel strongly that Andy recognized that he fucked up this bit of news right away, and then had to reinvent reality around his position. When Andy is wrong at least he is Definitively wrong.--Opcn (talk) 20:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Reinventing reality seems to be a popular pastime at Conservapedia. The first rule of intellectual honesty apparently is: never admit you are wrong, unless you happen to be wrong about an inconsequential and secondary matter, in which case you can gallantly acknowledge your mistake and show the world how open-minded you are. --Maquissar (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I think Opcn is right. Notice that thisimg comment has gone unanswered. Basically, CP would have attacked HuffPo no matter what. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 22:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

This seems definitive: [1]img DickTurpis (talk) 23:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Ed always makes a morning better.

I started out a little sick, but I was laughing like crazy halfway through this wonderful comment. Tell me Ed, what exactly is controversial about your creepy obsession with.... Oh, never mind. SirChuckBLeave Death Threats Here 16:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

This is the second WIGO-T section with this diff. Stop pestering him. In the words of the great poet "Surfer Dude":
Ya need to wake up and smell the fresh air
and hear the seagulls calling
and the surf rushing to the shore;
feel the sand beneath your toes and more.
Ever questing for that perfect balance
between wave and board
Swimming out eager for a thrill
and riding happy homeward.
Internetmoniker (talk) 19:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Is this the bug that crawled up Andy's ass about relativity?

A Harvard Law Review article on modern physics and law, supposedly edited by Obama (of whom Andy is infinitely jealous). I haven't read it yet, laptop is dying, figured I'd post it before hunting for a power cord. --Opcn (talk) 22:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Soooo long. Anyone want to read it and sum it up in a paragraph? Keegscee (talk) 22:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
That's what the fucking abstract is for! --Opcn (talk) 22:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Physics theories applied to none physics things usually equals postmodernist bullshit. - π 22:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Found a power cord! Did you read the abstract? I will load it on my kindle and read it this evening but from the abstract it seems like it is talking about the need to pay attention to the judicial footprint on the social landscape and using physics as an analogy. Which is valid. --Opcn (talk) 22:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
tl;dr - laws affect society, which in turn affect the laws society produces. User:FineCheesesUser talk:FineCheeses 22:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)