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I actually quite like you. And I don't hold malicious views about anyone on this site. In fact, even people like Nx, RA etc. are fine. I'm sure they're grand. I have no problems with RW.
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On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. I recommend you try to interpret me not as a living, conscious entity, but instead as an automoton, a fictional creation, a J.G. Farrel character of nauseating proportions. You do realise I have a sock account who partakes normally in the day by day stuff activities of this site? [[User:MarcusCicero|MarcusCicero]] ([[User talk:MarcusCicero|talk]]) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

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Idiot

What did I tell you? Leaving and never coming back is sooo last season. If you're serious, I'll miss you, buddy. I hope we can still continue to communicate via email. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 21:46, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank god. Kindly sod off, Neveruse. And to think I supported you for 'crat. Professor Moriarty 21:57, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I hope we can repair our relationship after you learn not to take yourself so seriously. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 22:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Its not a special 'leaving and never coming back', I'm just getting bored is all. I've tried just about every tactic available, and even though I managed to piss everyone off, I still feel like I could have done more. I think I'll pick wild flowers under the sunset flanked by running waterfalls for a while. But I'm sublimely bored of RW at this stage. This troll has trolled as much as he can troll. Bye!
P.S - My sock account, who is deeply involved in day to day wankerishness around here will still be active. He was one of the vocal critics over the last couple of days. I'll let you work out who that sock is, but I honestly don't think you'll stand a chance. 86.40.101.193 (talk) 21:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
No one fucking cares. PubliusTalk 23:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I give it a month. Probably less.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 23:11, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Quo usque tandem abutere...

Marce, patientia nostra? Quam diu etiam furor iste tuus nos eludet? Quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia? Nihilne te nocturnum praesidium salooni, nihil wikii vigiliae, nihil timor editorum, nihil concursus bonorum omnium, nihil hic munitissimus habendi congressus locus, nihil horum ora voltusque moverunt? Patere tua consilia non sentis? constrictam iam horum omnium scientia teneri coniurationem tuam non vides? Quid proxima, quid superiore nocte egeris, ubi fueris, quos convocaveris, quid consilii ceperis, quem nostrum ignorare arbitraris?

O tempora, o mores! Sysopes haec intellegunt, crati vident: hic tamen vivit. Vivit? immo vero etiam in wikium venit, fit publici consili particeps, notat et designat oculis ad caedem unum quemque nostrum. Nos autem, fortes viri, satis facere wikio videmur, si istius furorem ac tela vitemus. Ad mortem te, Marce, duci iussu McWickedi iam pridem oportebat; in te conferri pestem quam tu in nos omnes iam diu machinaris. --Retwa (talk) 00:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Sysop, as a contraction of "systems operator," would presumably be third declension.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 01:12, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Good point... go ahead and fix anything else I screwed up, it's been ages since I took Latin. --Retwa (talk) 01:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

The last thing I will ever say to you

I've been wondering for a while hwo to classify you. You are a troll, yes. But, like TheoryOfPracice, I've been wondering for forfuckingever just exactly how to classify you as an internet personality.

So, let me dwell on that which you are not. You are not an internet vandal. They would've done their damage and then left. You are no average troll, as they would've been gone after throwing us into HCM the first time. You are certainly not interested in "helping this wiki," as I've read everything you've said both here and at RWW. So, that leaves the question as to just how I'd classify you.

So what are you? How would I classify you? Well, TheoryOfPractice was close when he wondered if you ar e a bully. You are a bully, but a special kind. In my opinion, you are our version of an abusive husband. You sit here complaining without any reasonable offer as to how to help us. You then move to attacking our editors personally and, when they get wise to your bullshit, you play the victim and get all emotional; begging us to let you back into our lives. When some gullible editors do decide to let you back, you then continue this cycle of abuse.

You accuse us of hypocrisy. Newsflash: humanity is full of hypocrisy, because every rule has its exceptions. In my opinion, you are the exception to every rule here. You want to hear some hypocrisy? You accuse us of authoritarianism, and then, when people try to ignore you, you bully us all into taking drastic action. When we do, you play the victim, even though you know, as well as I do, they are playing into your game of being our version of an abusive husband. You play the victim, and, when someone like TheoryOfPractice feels victimized, you then accuse them of being the predator, even thought the fight started with you. You are the one who, when people told you to fuck off, couldn't resist to continue hurling insults, the vast bulk of which don't even qualify as constructive criticism in any ways/shapes/forms, and verbally abusing any and all contributors here. And, again, when you get called out and we collectively try to protect ourselves, you whine and go "Whoa is me!" Well, with all my heart, fuck off!

So, I dare you to call me out for blocking you. I will gladly give up any/all rights I have here if it means you fuck off. You have the personality of an abusive husband, and I won't let it stand any longer. I will not leave this site, because it is exactly what you want, and I will not give ou that sort of psychotic satisfaction. Instead, I will continue to oppose your presence here, even if every-other user here opposes me. I will also no longer acknowledge you exist, be it here or elsewhere. Leave me a message; I guarantee I won't respond, let alone give a shit.

Feel free to respond, but don't expect me to give a flying fuck. I know it sounds like an empy internet threat, but, this time, I am 100% serious. I am done with you. And I will do everything in my power to make sure you pay. -Gabe "The Gooniepunk"

P.S: if you knew me in real life, I'd have kicked your ass long ago. And that is the gospel truth

Goodpost.gif - π 12:12, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I actually have gone but couldn't resist responding to this: Goonie, you are, without doubt, the most pathetic cretin on RW by a country mile. Block me if you want, I have left myself. Blocking me changes nothing. I can come back any time I want. The only point it proves is that you're determined to play the 'internet tough guy'. Whatever, do what you want you meathead. And less of this hard man shit; You are in real life a 'punk', the kind of kid who dresses up to shock his peers. Whatever, we get it, you're an individual (Even if that means conforming to some elite group which involves you taking a very strict day to day life code) and you're a tough guy.
Loose the chip on your shoulder mate, it only makes you look like a fool. Now good bye and allow me to leave in pieces with less of this girly emotional bullshit that I cause!

How does it feel??

Tell me, MC, how does it feel to be trolled by someone you drove away from this site and then, when I express my feelings about you, you say about me (somebody you probably wouldn't even remember) "P.S- to the IP; you are a self important imbecile who no-one cares about. Who gives a fuck if you are here or if you are not, go away and fuck off and stop playing the whiny martyr." Well, here is my response. Enjoy the trolling you've earned, and all the bullshit that comes along with it. -- L

To be honest, I couldn't give two flying fucks. 90% of the internetz are aspergers sufferers who don't have the capacity to grasp irony or wit. Add to that difficult melting pot an environment which only see's a couple of sentances thrown down on what is in effect a word processor. Anything you say to me is ludicrously inoffensive, since you only know the internet persona 'Marcus Cicero', but not the real person behind this fictional character. I enjoy poking at unwarranted self importance on the internet, I enjoy making reactions and playing my part in an elaborate pantomine. Do you not enjoy playing the villain?
I'm glad I drove somebody from this website. It gives me a great sense of personal satisfaction and the drive to work harder in the future. Thank you for this inspiring message! MarcusCicero (talk) 02:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
So, in other words, you suffer from Aspergers? I can't believe you actually bought that story above. It is true I'm here and I'm trolling you, but to think you bought that story.... wow! What a fucking tool you really are! OBviously you play who you are because, in real life, you are some geek hiding behind his iMac and listening to crappola techno music while your mother yells at you to clean your room and lose some weight. -- L
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
—The Buddha
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME. I NEVER LIKED YOU ANYWAY. :( MarcusCicero Kupochama (talk) 02:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Lol! Is that the best you can manage? A pretend backtrack? Do you want lessons in trolling? MarcusCicero (talk) 13:33, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

TO TOM MOORE

Hello Tom,

I notice you enjoy placing this 'template' all over the place, thinking that it will annoy me. How wrong you are Tom. Indeed, the template does point out several truths, many of which are indisputable. It does, for example, state that I pretended to be my brother and declared that Marcus Cicero was taken away by the men in white cloaks. It does, also, display the reality that I did indeed delete six pages in a vandalism spree.

So what? Are you afraid of challenging the context of those incidents? The autocrats and fascists on RW insist on keeping me in the vandal bin. Like all human rights abusers, they feel their actions are for a 'greater good'. They are afraid of reason and all of the consequences a reasoned argument will bring on this wretched website.

Tell me, Tom, what is the opportunity cost of behaving like imbeciles on this website? How many intelligent people do the memes deter? How many reasoned, cultured, and honest men and women are revolted by this website because of its institutionalised idiocy? Its fear of reason? Its addiction to persecution? How many good men and women do you turn away every day, just because all of you have the combined maturity of a toddler frustrated of being stuck in his play pen? Afraid to answer these questions? Better leave me in the vandal bin. You wouldn't want anybody coming along and upsetting the status quo. You wouldn't anybody to come along to bring this idiocy infested webshite to the light of reason. You're afraid of the consequences my reason brings to this site, so you repress all arguments contrary to your overly comfertable group dynamics.

The cost of keeping me, your saviour, in the vandal bin are too high to joke around with. Release me Tom. It is in your power to do so. MarcusCicero (talk) 17:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

This is a shame. You're usually pretty clever and manipulative, managing to perpetuate a long cycle of troll-and-reveal. You're helped out by the nature of RW; we're very individual-minded and conscious-driven people for the most part, so cries of persecution always receive a sympathetic ear.
But it's just silly to appeal to me personally. Sure, I get a kick out of slapping you around - since you're just pathetic enough to be unable to leave RW without being so pathetic that I feel pity for you - but I've been naming your tune for a while now. The template is a good example of that. It would have been smarter for you to ignore me and put up your same reformer's shtick. I enjoy laughing at you enough that I would have eventually overdone it and gotten some criticism, making you look like the unjustly assaulted little guy.
Instead, this nonsense above?
And the worst thing for you is that I have enough self-control not to further reply, even when you try to spin up some more meta crap or the like. Whoopsie, huh?  ;)
--Tom Moorefiat justitia 18:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
This entire post seems kind of... facetious, really. I mean, the one by Marcus Cicero. Macai (talk) 18:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I have been bettered by the greatest anti troll in the history of Rationalwiki. A wise man knoweth when to congratulate an honourable opponent. MarcusCicero (talk) 18:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year

I just thought I'd wish you a happy new year. What'll you be drinking tonight? I'd say as you're Irish Guinness, but I learnt on Christmas Day that Irish folk don't drink Guinness all the time, just most of it. SJ Debaser 12:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm staying in with my family tonight, have always disliked New Years eve. I'm going to a friends 21st tommorrow night tommorrow. I combine 'gypsy' drink before hand and down a 'bottle of buckfast'. When inside I'd either be supping a pint of 'Smithwicks' or cracking open a 'naggin' of Glens Vodka. No messing around boy! MarcusCicero (talk) 12:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Your user page statement

Hi, I know I'm not here nearly often enough to judge what goes on, but your user page statement? Seriously? I understand that you might get angry at what goes on here sometimes, I don't deny I do. When someone mentioned Brittany Murphy's death on WIGO talk and wondered whether Conservapedia would comment, I thought okay, now we're as bad as them. But the first thing you ever said to me was idiot. You seem SO angry at everything and everyone. I like this site because sometimes its funny, sometimes its informative. Some of the articles have been really useful to me, especially those on arguments and fallacies. It might be very frustrating if you want the site to be one thing and others don't, but it doesn't necessarily make it a 'reign of disreason'. I think people may listen to you more if you weren't so aggressive, I know I would have. Of course, you might just enjoy stirring things up around here. --Seantalk 12:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

! Do you have aspergers? MarcusCicero (talk) 13:22, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Troll Professor Moriarty 13:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Funny

Simply came to say that I think you are funny (just read the message you left here). You may be annoying and trollish, but, without a doubt, funny. (In the way clowns are funny; not everyone enjoy their humor).

I have a list of website I think you should spam. Are you intrested? (Trying to be funny).

--Earthland (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me

Your a moronic jizzrag 91.194.84.61 (talk)

That he might be... but what does that make somebody who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're", hmmm? --PsygremlinSnakk! 12:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

A formal challenge from one Mei to a Marcus Cicero

MeiWiki challenges you, Mr. Cicero, to a most grave debate against the Mei. Mei doesn't care what about.

What say you to this copypasted offer? Will you refuse or not refuse? -- =w= 22:40, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Email

MC, you haven't enabled email. Would you please complete the process? Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 01:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Just after doing so. Whats all the cloaks and daggerz about? MarcusCicero (talk) 01:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Debate

I took the liberty of editing your proscribed topic to make it coherent. Find the debate here. The terms are not negotiable, so take it or leave it.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 02:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

"I do not want to be a part of this community"

What length block would you like? Infinite? Five years? -- =w= 21:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Question

How does vandal binning someone who unjustly deleted several pages and constantly abuses fellow site members fall under administrative abuse? SJ Debaser 23:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Troll Acei9 00:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Now, now, Mr McWicked, if he resents the labels of troll and vandal so, then he shouldn't have a problem answering my question. SJ Debaser 00:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey Superjosh; if you would like me to agree with you that I'm a vandal, then by all means. I'm a vandal! I hope this is the answer you desired as your happiness is all that matters to me! See you later, buddy! MarcusCicero (talk) 02:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Of course not, dear MC, I wouldn't have you think such a thing! I was just musing as to your case, that's all. You seemed previously to resent the troll/vandal label despite the deletion of several pages. But never mind, eh? I wasn't even involved in that incident. Have a great day!!! SJ Debaser 12:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Troll--BobBring back the hat! 13:03, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

My dear, dear Bob. Do you not believe in second chances? Have you not experienced the joy of this christmas? I was reading through a book of verse earlier and I came across a beautiful little poem that expresses my lamentations for your present cynicism. I hope we can work together and be the best of friends. Bob, you are dear to me indeed;

Away and alone, mind filled with overwhelming thoughts. The clouds roll in and the darkness corrupts the heavens above. I sit in fear, there is no way for myself to return, All hope seems to dwindle as sadist thoughts and macabre parasites infest center control. And just as all seems lost, I see you, An angel? No you are far too magnificent.

Then what are you?

You are, my insanity, my drug to fight morbid.

My goddess that lifts me from false virtue, and instills holy sin.

My divinity unholy, a manic reverie, truth of life beyond the Alchatrez mind.

I blink, and you're gone,

I am fine though,

I saw God in you,

I see God in you. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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Say something nice about my eyes. -- =w= 01:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Your eyes Mei - where can I begin to describe your eyes? The superlative doesn't begin to cover it, but I'll try! When I look into your eyes, I see a world of precious things. Lying warmly beside you beneath the night skies, Love is safely contained in your angel wings. You've clearly touched me deep within my heart, Only showing all the joyful love we possess. Uncoil the rough twine that has kept us apart, Making my only journey for you a success. Although absence of you gives me such heartache, Remember the times we're side by side, Remember the long walks along the lake You'll forever remain my only true love.
This is an original poem, by me, for you. Don't mock my simple abilities with the English verse, my heart can barely take it. If some level of that poem is pleasing to you, I shall spend a thousand sleepless nights basking in the mystery that must be your beautiful face, your beautiful eyes... Your beautiful soul. My lovely Mei, your preciousness cannot be measured in gold or precious jewels. It cannot be countenanced by mere human reason or love. The grace of your gaze impowers a transcendental state of divine perfection; only within the glowering furore of the majesty of the cosmos can I begin to understand the complex mystique that lurks behind that veil of mystery.
O Mei! How I adore you! How I worship the very earth you stand on, humbled by your mere presence here! Come to me Mei, and allow us to live a thousand lives, in a thousand souls, throughout the waves of civilisation. Give me but one moment of your grace and I shall be your slave for eternity. MarcusCicero (talk) 02:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
She's like fifteen. Now you're being gross.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 02:10, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Wait a second... Ed Poor? Ed, is that you?--Tom Moorefiat justitia 02:11, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
I thought his reply was quite nice. And after all, she did ask. Also also, any carnality in that is in the eye of the beholder as far as I can tell. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Pretty much what I expected. TM you should try it, it's fun! -- =w= 02:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

MC, say something nice about my handsome but aging cheekbones? ħumanUser talk:Human 04:13, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I think MC has better things to do. Like get himself unbinned. Curiously, I have found myself today actually supporting unbinning him under the reasoning of "what harm could be done, if we can bin him again?" The Spikey Punk I'm punking my punk! 05:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that template is getting boring, especially when left unsigned, Tom Moore. ħumanUser talk:Human 08:27, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. I thought I was the only one who ever used it.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 09:05, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

The lay of Humans ageing cheek bones

Such noble features, that face protects. A fount of wisdom and long gone youth... I find myself... in awe of the memories that it must contain; battles and marriages and funerals and all of lifes wonderous diversity. And herein I compose the lay. The lay of Human's ageing cheek bones. It has a curiously Irish edge, and talks about Humans ageing cheeck bones as if they were battered by domestic violence, I hope you like it;

The Minister for Justice wearing a new fur coat
Yesterday opened a home for battered husbands:
Present were leading farmers and greyhound-owners
As well as respectable solicitors with their mistresses.
When the Minister cut the tape to the new home
Several battered husbands could be seen cringing
On the staircase in tear-stained cardigans
And cracked slippers; and the stairs looked
As though they had received a liberal sprinkling
Of dandruff and cigarette ash. A spokesman for the husbands said:
We are relieved to have at last got a place of our own;
Several of the men are pregnant and the security
Which the new home will provide, is for them
A welcome boon. Asked as to what kind of injury
The husbands suffered from, the spokesman said that frayed nerves
Are the major ailment and further inspection revealed
Loose nerve-ends dangling from eye-sockets and cheek-bones.
It was also stated that in order to protect the men
From the wrath of wives
A team of Limerick ban-gardai - known as the heavy gang -
Will be on twenty-four-hour duty outside the new home. MarcusCicero (talk) 11:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Alternatively, you could have just called it Minister Opens New Home For Battered Husbands as it was originally titled ;) Worm(t | c) 13:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, Your Beautiful Eyes --Seantalk 13:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey, not cool. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:54, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, if we're quoting poetry
You should have heard Matilda Shout!
You should have heard her Scream and Bawl,
And throw the window up and call
To People passing in the Street--
(The rapidly increasing Heat
Encouraging her to obtain
Their confidence) -- but all in vain!
For every time she shouted 'Fire!'
They only answered 'Little Liar!'
From Matilda by Hilair Belloc Bob Soles (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I love you

Marcus, I love you so much. I want you to be a sysop again. So what say you agree to behave, and if you misbehave again then we block you forever? I know that with your newfound christian faith you will comply, so what say you? CrundyTalk nerdy to me 00:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm indifferent to you, MC. SJ Debaser 01:05, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Get this through your thick skull

We are not going to unbin your college's IP. You should use your irregular edit rights to troll properly rather than whine. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 16:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I am indifferent to whether you unbin my college IP or not. My trolls can easily circumvent the ban. Either way, your unceasing whining and self importance marks you out distinctly from nearly everyone else here (Except TOP, the aspergers suffering idiot with a tendancy to cry every time someone makes a joke) You do realise that you are the single most aloof and obtuse dithering buffoon on this site? Why do you constantly try to live up the 'tough guy' routine - do you not see how ludicrous it is? You are a laughable character straight out of a Tom Wolfe novel. And the best part is that you don't even realise it. MarcusCicero (talk) 18:21, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Actually I quite like your odd rants. And all the time you spend trying to insult me is time diverted away from trying to turn the other members on each other. Thanks for the email anyway, and yes, you are daeejit. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 18:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY.

...that is all. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 15:22, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I've got a great idea...

Hey Marcus, I've got a great idea and I thought that I'd bounce it off of you to see what you think. So I've found this website; it's really small and almost nobody reads it (its Alexa ratings are a joke) but it seems to have a dedicated, core constituency of people who for the most part get along and appear to enjoy each other's company. The website's main page makes some hifalutin' claims about things like politics, religion and science, and there's actually quite a bit of decent stuff on those topics scattered throughout the site. At the same time, these folks seem to spend a lot of time hanging out, chatting, making "in" jokes and repeating Internet memes--you know, stuff that any typical online community tends to do.


While some members of the website in question have been around longer than others and seem to have a little more "say" by virtue of their seniority, in actual fact the the community sort of lacks a defined sense of conflict resolution and tends to let things just happen--keep that in mind, it's pretty important for my plan.


So here's what I thought I would do. I figured I'd take out an account at the website in question, and try to sow discord among these people, mostly by insulting them in such a way as to exploit the fact that whatever rules that the website has about community standards are difficult to enforce. I figure I could take out any number of sock accounts, or even edit as a BON if need be--the worst that they'll do to me is make me wait a little bit between edits. I figure that by doing things like repeatedly insulting members' intelligence, body weight, career choices, virility and other such things, and by making them argue with each other over how to deal with the problem, that eventually the website in question will no loger be a fun place to go to. Doesn't that sound like a blast? I mean, really, how better to prove what a great guy I am, right?


Bear in mind that I'm actually a reasonably intelligent fellow with a decent sense of humour persuing a post-graduate history degree dealing with politics in the first part of the twentieth century, and I come from a country where religion and politics have intersected in really interesting ways, so I could probably go with the flow over there and contribute in both a fun and productive way, but really, what good would ever come of that, right?


So whaddaya think?

P-Foster (talk) 16:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I actually quite like you. And I don't hold malicious views about anyone on this site. In fact, even people like Nx, RA etc. are fine. I'm sure they're grand. I have no problems with RW.

On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. I recommend you try to interpret me not as a living, conscious entity, but instead as an automoton, a fictional creation, a J.G. Farrel character of nauseating proportions. You do realise I have a sock account who partakes normally in the day by day stuff activities of this site? MarcusCicero (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)