Difference between revisions of "User talk:Bob M"

From RationalWiki
Jump to: navigation, search
(The little blockie: good luck)
(New section: :P:P:P:P:P:P:P)
Line 391: Line 391:
I'm range blocked at Conservapedia. Anyone know about proxies? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:22, 7 December 2008 (EST)
I'm range blocked at Conservapedia. Anyone know about proxies? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:22, 7 December 2008 (EST)
:Hi PC.  Thank you for asking, but you may have mistaken me for somebody else. [[Image:Th_unsure.gif]] I have no special expertise at evading blocks and little interest at playing games at CP.  I wish you the best in your endeavours. --[[User:Bob_M|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M|<sup>bing up</sup>]] 08:27, 7 December 2008 (EST)
:Hi PC.  Thank you for asking, but you may have mistaken me for somebody else. [[Image:Th_unsure.gif]] I have no special expertise at evading blocks and little interest at playing games at CP.  I wish you the best in your endeavours. --[[User:Bob_M|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M|<sup>bing up</sup>]] 08:27, 7 December 2008 (EST)
== :P:P:P:P:P:P:P ==
Regards, --[[User:Rose Pedаls|Rose Pedаls]] 14:27, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Revision as of 19:27, 10 December 2008

Archives for this talk page: <1>, <2>, <3>, <4>, <5>, <6>, <7>, <8>, (new)

This is where I keep some stuff and play about.

Hello and welcome to my talk page. Not being a smart chap I'll reply on this page to any comments on this page.--Bob_M (talk) 01:59, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

What is the purpose of this site?

I just go from wiki to wiki promoting the Barney Bunch and Drew Pickles videos on Youtube (except for Uncyclopedia, Conservapedia, and Encyclopedia Dramatica, because i tried them already and I ended up blocked)— Unsigned, by: BarneyBot / talk / contribs

A worthy ambition no doubt, but perhaps one that you should not attempt to further here. Our purpose here at RationalWiki includes the following:
  • Analyzing and refuting the anti-science movement.
  • Analyzing and refuting the full range of crank ideas.
  • Explorations of authoritarianism and fundamentalism.

We welcome contributors, and we encourage those who disagree with us to register and engage in a constructive dialogue. I'm afraid your remarkable contribution didn't really seem to further these goals. Nevertheless you may find something of interest here. Some of our articles are believed to even be funny.  :-) --Bobbing up 10:43, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Those cool images on userpages

Hey BobM could you please let me know how to put those template type things on my user page. You know those "this user is an atheist" etc type little images. I'm a bit of a novice and would like to put some on my user page --Damo2353 06:36, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Your best bet would be to look here RationalWiki:Userboxes. If there is anything that is not clear please come back to me.  :-) --Bobbing up 06:40, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Cheers Cuz, that's exactly what I was looking for.--Damo2353 06:42, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
My word. A satisfied customer.--Bobbing up 06:45, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
What, surprised? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:41, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, no. Just happy really.--Bobbing up 15:46, 3 July 2008 (EDT)


I think that little kitten-related diversion has established that it's a bot. Since it isn't targeting any other articles, I think we ought to protect it. If there are any anonymous editors who really want to improve it, surely they will register an account when they find it's protected? <blink></blink> <blink></blink> 13:21, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Could be. My position on protection has changed from strongly opposed to generally opposed. Th unsure.gif Let's see what the night crew thinks. (Or the day crew, depending on your time zone.) It's hardly destroying the Wiki at the moment. --Bobbing up 13:34, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Where is an index? Q1 - Q9

Bob, when you have time for questions from the NewGuy, i'll be ready, appreciative, and waiting. (RAW on RW.)

Q1) Where is an index? Not a TOC, but an index of RW members, say. To find somebody i converse with previously, i have to try to remember where he posted, then follow his link. Is that how everybody else does it?

Goto Special:Specialpages for much of the answer to your question. Special:Listusers is all the editors. Godot 13:49, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
"is that how..." - yes SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:07, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Q2) Is the following a suggested scenario? On User:Rembrandt.ryan i put links to other places followed by an "All About Me" section, followed by a "Personal Opinions" section.

You can put anything on your User Page. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:07, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
If that's how you want to do it, sure.--Bobbing up 14:50, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Q3) Is there someplace to click that will show me which of the pages i'm interested in that contain new comments? And maybe even direct me to those comments?

Goto a page & click "Observe" at the top. The page will be added to "my watchlist"" at the very top. Godot 13:49, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Q4) Is there some kind of an API members have access to? Actually I don't understand this one. I hope Linus' response helped. Or do you mean the forum? You can click it on the left.--Bobbing up 14:50, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Q5) Onto which page do members typically login? I've been linking directly to the Libertarianism article page, but there may be a page that greets me with new information.

Special:Recentchanges— Unsigned, by: Godot / talk / contribs

Q6) Is there a Hottest topics list?

See above. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:04, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Q7) Is there a Talk about anything/everything page?

People tend to use Talk:Main Page but just start something on your own talk page & people will notice. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:04, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes, if it's important and about the Wiki or the world the Mainpage. If it's more about you then your talk page.--Bobbing up 14:50, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Q8) Are any HTML tags verboten on WR?

some don't work SusanG  ContribsTalk

Dancing Girls and Languages

Q9) Where can i find some easy Spanish readings on the web? No lo entiendo mucho. That should give you a clue what level i'm at. (Does any Spaniard utter such a sentence?)

? SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:04, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
I guess you ask this because I live in Spain. Thing is that I don't teach Spanish, so I can't really help you. There are Spanish learning sites, but I don't use them. I would say "No entiendo mucho." but Spanish can catch you out with that sort of trick and I speak Peninsular Spanish - South American Spanish does a few things differently. But, no, I don't have any sites to hand.--Bobbing up 14:50, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Rem 13:38, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Scratch Q3 -- i think i've figured it out. Rem 13:45, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Edit conflicts........... --Bobbing up 14:40, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

SeeRationalWiki:Help SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:10, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Wow -- a whole 'nother list of answers. Can y'all gimmee your phone numbers? (I promise not to sell them on eBay.) I'd like to find some Spanish dancing girls that like Gringos -- can you help me out on that?

Rem 15:52, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Sorry, but I don't know any Spanish dancing girls - and I rather think my wife would take a dim view of it if I did. Ohmy.gif. On the other hand learning English is never-ending, long-term goal for many people in Spain so if you're a fluent native English speaker with a reasonable personality you can usually find people who are eager to talk to you. But I rather think that the Atlantic ocean might be a bit of a problem for you.--Bobbing up 16:02, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

// Sorry, but I don't know any Spanish dancing girls

C'mon -- a sly hounddog like yourself?

She'd take a dim view? Possesive type, eh? Just explain to her that times have changed, and she can't really maintain a medieval attitude in this day and age, she has to be reasonable, and that a little dalliance would actually strengthen your relationship -- plus she'd have something to tell the other ladies when she gets together for an espresso (or whatever the Spanish equivalent is) ... but i'm ha-ha only kidding ho-ho, my wife is also a throwback.

So while they're trying to get good at English, we're scrambling to learn Spanish -- English will probably be a dead language over here in five or ten years. (And don't even THINK about quoting a GB Shaw wisecrack.)

// English speaker with a reasonable personality

Dang! Knocked out right in the first round. RemBeau 20:53, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Don't really think that she's quite that modern Rem. :-) As for English going to die in five years, I'll take advantage of a Mark Twain wisecrack instead. "The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated". --Bobbing up 10:18, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the invite to join, but actually that was just me forgetting to sign in :) The Lay Scientist 17:15, 7 July 2008 (EDT)


CONGRATULATIONS Bob M, you have been invited to attend the First Annual RationalWiki Olympics! Just follow THIS LINK to sign up for an event of your choosing!

Javascap 06:51, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Thank you very much for the invite, but I'm a bit tied up on other things at the moment. I'll watch from the sidelines for a while if you don't mine. --Bobbing up 07:06, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Over the top

You goes it. <blink></blink> <blink></blink> 17:47, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

That's where he came from, how could he return? Unless he was under it for a while? I didn't notice... ħumanUser talk:Human 22:10, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
I don't quite know how to react. Th unsure.gif To what does this refer?--Bobbing up 02:44, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
True to his name, Chaos does not always, or even very often, make what the average person would call "sense". An appropriate response in this case would be posting a YouTube video of a Nightwish song on his talk page; he loves that stuff. (Trus me). --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 09:42, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes, I see. Perhaps just letting it drop would be my best action then.--Bobbing up 09:45, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Cheek. I made this comment when you were welcoming what seemed like every IP address we've seen for the last three weeks. <blink></blink> <blink></blink> 09:51, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, the last half dozen why had edited in the recent past. It's part of my welcoming personality. Th hug.gif And nobody else seemed to be saying "Hi" to IPs so I did a quick round-up before going to bed.--Bobbing up 09:58, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Good work, too. It is this kind of proactive customer relations work that will lay the basis for our eventual ascent to greatness. Chaos, unfortunately, does not really understand these things. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 10:01, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
I liked the welcome. Nothing like a nice welcome to get you settled in and started. If i had been greeted to this site with a total absence of any kind of contact at all (as in wikipedia) i would not have bothered to investigate further or participate at all (again, as in wikipeida). So I'd say its a nice idea. ...Danrant at me 19:03, 13 July 2008 (EDT)


Thank you for the hello. Darrenhusted 07:12, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

You are most welcome. How did you find us?--Bobbing up 07:22, 9 July 2008 (EDT)


Thanks for the shoutout.— Unsigned, by: PennyLane / talk / contribs

My pleasure.--Bobbing up 15:42, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Question of Dire Importance

Or not. :-) do you know how to find 1) a list of all pages here, and 2) a list of templates? I'm being "redlink" gal, and changing bad/missing links, but I'm concerned that there might be really good pages here that would be a valid link. That is, if i see "Hoax" as an empty link, i can try "hoax" in the search engine, but I don't know if there might be something related such as "Scientific Frauds" or "internet deceit" that would be good links for "hoax". As for the templates, it has been suggested by Human that there might once long ago have been a template to help remove "redlinks" from pages imported into RatWik from CP. Any help you have would be appreciated. by teh way, I've looked and looked and don't see a very suitable place for such questions as these. The "help page" is only as useful as the current links. Thanks again, Kip. --WaitingforGodot 16:04, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Click on "special pages" off to the left. There should be a link to "all articles" or some such, it will also have a dropdown allowing you to specify a namespace (like template). Also, under "help", there should be a link to a sort-of guide to our templates and what they do. That "red link" one I mentioned might very well be in the guide. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:57, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
For a list of all pages (and other interesting pages as well) Go to the "Toolbox" and click on "special pages". (The toolbox is located below the navigation box, which in turn is below the RW logo on the left hand side.)
The first item in "Special Pages" is "All pages" which you can display by namespace. Look in mainspace first. Though I must say that visually searching might not be very quick. I don't remember any such template for removing red links, I'm afraid.
I think this really is the sort of question that you need to ask a human about, but most of us are quite friendly so don't be afraid to ask.  :-)--Bobbing up 17:00, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks. I did find the guide to the templates, in a very technical sense that went way over this woman's head. I was hoping to just find a list of pre-made templates, and not "how to make them". I'm guessing I was looking in the wrong place. As for the list of pages, thanks. I know it's likely to be very long, but I can't help but feel there are many articles that are similar to a missing link, but not identical.— Unsigned, by: WaitingforGodot / talk / contribs
Was this what you were looking for? RationalWiki:Help/Template list - or was that what you found?--Bobbing up 17:15, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
Apparently what I was referring to was Template:R ħumanUser talk:Human 04:39, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Ah - now I, too, understand.--Bobbing up 04:48, 12 July 2008 (EDT)


Thank you very much to all involved in 'retiring' me as per my request during a near mental break down of a week ago. I have just returned from a week in The Highlands climbing mountains and feal far more mentally stable. I would like to appolagise for creating such a fuss and really appreciate the time people put into replying to my whining. It is this kind of attitude that seperates RW from CP by a wide, wide gulf. I will now slump into quiet obscurity, learn by my mistakes and enjoy reading RW. Sincere thanks Susan, Bob, et al. RedDog 08:36, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

As I said on Susan's page - you're most welcome. As an aside, I'm sorry about your problems, but glad you're feeling better. Remember that you will be welcome back at any time under this or another identity. You were also famous for a while - you're on the Lenski dialogue page!--Bobbing up 08:41, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Sock it up

What would be the purpose of a sock? Why would anybody want one? To hide from a girlfriend, perhaps? -- RemBeau 14:44, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

There are many reasons one might want a sock. All of them are very evil. Basically if you want a second identity for whatever reason you can create a sock. Here on RW they are usually created as jokes. On other sites they may have more sinister aims.--Bobbing up 14:56, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
All my RW socks are very well behaved.........well all but one at least... tmtoulouse harass 15:01, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes, Tmtoulouse. I know that you are really AKjeldsen.--Bobbing up 15:05, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Oh and Rem. At some sites socks are officially banned - here they are officially welcome. Although when I was looking for this by-law the other day I couldn't find it. --Bobbing up 15:07, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
It is very carefully laid out in the Zeitgeist of RationalWiki. tmtoulouse harass 15:09, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Silly of me, yes, I should have looked it up in the Rationalwiki:Zeitgeist. Actually that would be a hell of a name for an article.--Bobbing up 15:14, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

At some sites they are banned? What would prevent someone from simply setting up a new login identity? -- RemBeau 15:43, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

First off, when an administer blocks an account he can block either the name or the name and IP. If he only blocks the Name then the user can create another sock. If he blocks both then another account cannot be created. So the User needs a new IP. After that an admin could go for the "look and feel" of a user. If say an IP is blocked and then the user gets a proxy IP to evade the ban and then starts to do the same things the blocked user did then an admin may say it is the blocked user. It all gets quite cat and mouse. Some people dedicate their lives to it. There's a big article on it here somewhere if you're interested I'll look it up for you.--Bobbing up 15:50, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
One "legitimate" reason for a sockpuppet to is to work on parts of a project one does not want closely associated with an established username, somewhat like the reason academics use pseudonyms (or at least, self-publish) when working on something "frivolous". ħumanUser talk:Human 16:55, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Essay:Nefariousness, that reminds I haven't thanked Wikinterpreter yet. Thanks! NightFlareStill doesn't have a (nonstub) RWW article. 16:58, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm afraid Wikinterpreter/Interpreted hasn't been with us recently. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 17:00, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Meine Getalkenpagen (And other things in fake German)

Thanks yo!WilhelmJunker 14:04, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

I exist to serve.--Bobbing up 14:34, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
Ja, ich bin sehr interresant in diese. Ich wonder what will turn up hier. Der geist von Nietzsche? Ich hoffe nicht. -- RemBeau 12:01, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
Und ... en vas you interresant am?--Bobbing up 12:38, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
Nietzsche -- wie gehts? Ich war nur kidding, Du wisst dass, ja? Und ihre Schwester, still gut? -- RemBeau 21:50, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

Deletion procedure

May I ask what the procedure for deletions is on this wiki project? Thanks. Credulous 20:58, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

It's pretty informal, as are most of our rigid policies. The best thing to do is bring it up on the article's talk page. Was there something you felt should be removed? ħumanUser talk:Human 21:27, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
I am still not totally clear about much of the reasons for some content on the site, but some seems really strange such as Danish. When I run into such things that just seem really out of place I was wondering what I might mark them with for others to review that are more familiar with site policy. Credulous 21:31, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
First, thanks for asking. Second, we barely have "site policy", but we do have some RationalWiki:Community Standards. I think we have some "guidelines", too, but I can't find them right now ;). While we have our "mission" as stated on the main page, a large adjunct to it is to have fun here, and build a wiki that is not just dry and serious. You might want to ask around, since this is a mobocracy. As far as articles you aren't sure should survive, as I said, bring it up on their talk page, and see who chimes in. ħumanUser talk:Human 21:37, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
In fact, you'll notice that I added "fun?" to the talk page at Danish - that's shorthand for "shall we move this to the fun: namespace", which is usually where the sillier things end up. ħumanUser talk:Human 21:40, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
(ec)There's an awful lot of in jokes like Danish. We don't have a policy. If you think something needs deleting stick the {{delete}}template on it & explain on its talk page. We generally move stuff to Fun namespace rather than delete. SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:43, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

Vandal box

Hi, Bob, I am IP and I currently make edits more as unregistered user because my account ReligionSucks has been put into a vandal user group (for encrypting the Bullshit page using Vinegere cipher and key "cdesign proponentsist" into gibberish for fun)n and thus I cannot do edits more than 2x a hour.Pls tell sysops to remove me from there, I will not vandal anymore.— Unsigned, by: ReligionSucks / talk / contribs

Ah. Ok, You'll need an admin for that - it's beyond my powers. I'd suggest that you put a note on User talk:Tmtoulouse's page. He created the program and should be the best one to let you out. --Bobbing up 10:13, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Bob, you are an admin. Did you meant 'crat? Also do you subscribe to New Scientist? I was reading an old copy (May 21 2008) in my dentist's waiting room and it had a quote from James Wagoner in "Science rules OK: Running societies the rational way" about abstinence-only programs being the equivalent of creationism for sexual health. I'd like to get the accurate quote. Jollyfish.gifGenghispillaging 12:29, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Sorry, yes, I meant "crat" - (for the user rights change stuff). I've got a subscription to NS with on-line access. I'll look it up.--Bobbing up 12:38, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
The article is here. But a lot of their stuff is free to view anyway, can you tell me if you can see all of it before I start cutting and pasting?--Bobbing up 12:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
The bit you're after would seem to be: "The origin of this programme was not in science or research by any means, but in an ultra-conservative, ultra-religious ideology," says James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, a non-profit organisation in Washington DC that champions informed decision-making about sexual behaviour. "You could almost see the abstinence-only movement as the sexual health equivalent of creationism."--Bobbing up 12:45, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks. I can't see the whole article as it needs a log in. But that is the quote I was looking for. Jollyfish.gifGenghispillaging 12:59, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Cool, If you need more context just ask.--Bobbing up 13:17, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

Fixed Ezra & the Prophecy

Please tell me if it makes any sense. Kip. (Waiting for Godot... can't find the Buttons with the ~~ code, and don't know it off the top of my head).


I've been around before, but Schlafly blocking me over the BJU thing just pissed me off too much. Don't know how much I'll actually work though... :O WDeans 13:53, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

I'm sure you're most welcome to lurk. I'm afraid that I don't keep up too much with the goings-on on at Andyland. What was BJU?--Bobbing up 14:05, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Bob Jones University, the racist Christian one (they only started allowing interracial couples in 2000). Schlafly said that someone else's edit was a 'smear' (because it didn't mention the fact that Democrats used to be racist too), removed it; I put it back with an explanation... block. WDeans 17:28, 7 August 2008 (EDT)


Thanks. Babakathy 14:56, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

You're more than welcome Babakathy.--Bobbing up 15:17, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Response to your six points

I have responded on the Talk Libt page to the six points you raised on that page.

-- RemBeau 19:24, 11 August 2008 (EDT)


>Hi, just glancing at "recent changes" I one of your edit comments was about NPOV. You should be aware that RW is not NPOV.--Bobbing up 03:25, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, Bob!
--UnicornTapestry 21:53, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Ten Thousand

Bob, as you were the one to drop a welcome template on me, I thought I'd give you the privilege (sic) of receiving my ten thousandth edit. SusanG  ContribsTalk 02:47, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Thank you Susan. Th hug.gif I feel appropriately honoured. And that's a lot of edits!Ohmy.gif --Bobbing up 03:00, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Gang of 4 Userbox

Bob I designed an alternative, what do you think?

4Warning.gif This user is a member of the feared Gang of Four and may react sarcastically to superstition & religion

Jollyfish.gifГенгисpillaging 07:31, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

It's a lot better than mine.  :-) To be honest I'm crap at this stuff. If you want to overwrite my one I'd be more than happy.  :-) --Bobbing up 08:35, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
OK I'll change the template, thanks for the inspiration. Redchuck.gif Генгисpillaging 09:09, 4 September 2008 (EDT)


You were the first person to welcome me to RW and you gave off a sort of experienced and knowledgeable vibe, so you seem like a reasonable person to direct this question at - what exactly is the deal with Philip J Rayment? Is he actually at all a smart guy or what? He seems kind of like it and bitch-slaps Andy now and again but then he thinks all this crazy Young Earth stuff and so on. He seems to me very much a man of contradictions.--seventhrib 18:57, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

I shall not butt into this in any way, because the question was clearly directed at Bob. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:03, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
Yup, PJR is a reasonably smart person. With some rather "odd" beliefs... ħumanUser talk:Human 01:01, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
Hi Seventh Rib. Thanks for your opinion or me.  :-) But I'm probably not the best person to comment on PJR, as there are are others who spend far more time interacting with CP than I. However, from what I know of PJR my opinion is the same as yours - apart for the Young Earth stuff he doesn't seem to be too bad a guy. If anybody else want's to butt in on this I have no objections. :-) --Bobbing up 02:26, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Thank you

I admire your minor but not-less-important work in this Wiki. It might not get the spotlight like a WIGOTalk would, but it keeps RW alive and in good form. The specific example at hand, one of many!, is your work on Rationality and Rationalism. More generally, the categorizations, the redirects, the immediate questions and help you provide if someone has an issue with RW. Now, if you weren't part of the Gang of Four... ;-) Editor at CPSig(h)! 10:37, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Thank you very much for your unexpected, though most welcome, words. Chat-smiley.gif (And I consider my membership of the Gang of Four to be a matter of pride.)Nods.gif --Bobbing up 13:40, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Going Kenservative on us?

Bob, you just spread what should have been one or two edits worth of wikilinking into seven [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] separate edits. The proximity of them to each other (both chronologically and spatially) suggests to me you were deliberately padding you edit count. Is this so? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 06:42, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

I thought you were the one with an edit count in his signature.  :-) --Bobbing up 06:44, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Used to be, Bob.  : ) And I have avoided deliberate attempts to pad my edit count for quite some time. Also, when I did do them, I at least tried to be less obvious about it. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 06:53, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
RA, if I wanted to inflate my edit count I'd get into a debate a day with Pink. That would be worth fifty a day easily. I added links to your article as I noticed them. But if you wish to imagine something else that's up to you.--Bobbing up 07:03, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Apologies for accusing you so, then. I'm sorry. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 07:28, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
OK, that's cool.--Bobbing up 07:40, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Scientology ref

I don't want to bombard you with multiple topics (incidentally, do you like cumulus or strato-cumulus better?), but that wasn't what I was questioning when I put in the fact template. New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 07:07, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

OK, what were you questioning? Or would this be better on the article page?--Bobbing up 07:11, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
"Anti-Scientologists don't use Scientology as a strawman for religion in general, like "achristians"..."
However, I notice now that the Achristian article doesn't really mention this, so I guess the example works. I still think it's just a sneaky way of saying "look how nasty religion is", though :P New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 07:28, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
As you say, that's not the point the article is making.--Bobbing up 07:35, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Why do you always type out your comment into the edit summary?

Why do you always type out your comment into the edit summary? (It must get boring with some of the longer ones...) New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 15:17, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

I am being a good soldier and following the site guidelines here: RationalWiki:Help/Edit summary. I cut and past the most relevant part of the edit into the comment line so that people can have an idea of what is going on.--Bobbing up 15:30, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
But it's always slightly disappointing to see your entry on Recent Changes and then load up the page only to find there's nothing further beyond what I already read :(
You should make it more mysterious! Use sentence fragments! Type in Greek! New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 15:37, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
I'm just following orders mate. More than my jobs worth to do it different guv. But I think that's the idea of edit comments isn't it? Then people only need to actually look at your fine prose if they think they are going to need to respond to it. Frankly, I'm surprised more people don't do it. Cutting and pasting the most relevant line into the edit summary takes something in the order of a quarter of a second.--Bobbing up 15:42, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Damn, I just wasted 1/4 of a second. you and my husband would get along wondefully well. ("you know, if you would use this short cut, or if you would do this particular macro you would save yourself 2 key strokes") Damn, 2 keystrokes out of my day!  ;-)--Sun mowse.pngEn attendant Godot"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov» 15:45, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
My point is, dear lady, that it is hardly a difficult operation to carry out. Indeed it should be a particularly easy one for people with mice in their signatures.Dictator.gif--Bobbing up 15:50, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Watch it, you. We mowses shall run things round here soon enough Nods.gif
And anyways, I shalln't be doing that, because I don't like the effect. I do sometimes put notes about what I'm commenting on in the summary, but only when it's necesary. Or when it's amusing in some way. New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 15:55, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Then we have different styles. :-) --Bobbing up 15:58, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Especially when it comes to the spelling of the word "mowse". New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 16:28, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
But the plural would be?--Bobbing up 17:21, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Mowsae? --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 17:30, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Let's go Old English: Mowsen?--Bobbing up 17:34, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Mowses. Or miwce, if you prefer. New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 06:19, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
Actually a number of British animals have no plurals. One sheep two sheep; one fish two fish; one deer two deer. So why not: one mowse two mowse?--Bobbing up 07:02, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
That's perfect! However, I'm not sure it'll catch on. It'll be difficult for people to pick up the fact that it's the plural and not just a typo, you see. I might use all three (and why not?) New3.pngPink(Astronomy Domine) 18:00, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

Bob Attacks

So I was reading teh summaries of changes and say "Conservapedia Talk:What is going on at CP?‎; 09:58 . . (+613) . . Weaseloid (Talk | contribs | block) (→Bot Attack? - )" and thought to myself, "oh no, what is bob attacking now."  :-) Haz yourself a good dayz! I need sleep, cleary. --Sun mowse.pngEn attendant Godot"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov» 13:31, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

I'm surprised at you. Ohmy.gif When do I attack anything??Scratchchin.gif. But I'm happy to know you thought of me.Th hug.gif --Bobbing up 13:35, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
Well, when you feel three sheets to the wind (thanks to legal drugs for allergies, and not alcohol... though alcohol would be more fun), and you are trying to be a nice employee and do the research you are paid for, and not playing here - it's not pretty. You see lots of things in teh most mundane of worlds. :D--Sun mowse.pngEn attendant Godot"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov» 13:41, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
I feel your pain.--Bobbing up 13:47, 1 October 2008 (EDT)


...for sourcing the Mogul part of the UFO article. Francine 11:26, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

That's cool. Thanks for thanking me.--Bobbing up 11:42, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

And more thanks for fixing the Paradise thing. You've removed the Islamophobia whilst keeping the spirit of the thing. Silver Sloth 13:50, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Cheers silver, thanks for the nice words. :-) --Bobbing up 13:55, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

A response to a recent e-mail

This sort of clear thinking is why when "Bob M" (is that your real name???) schools me, I usually reevaluate and shut up. Nice work, Bob. Kan U haz a penguin?

Watch out for the Penguins!!!

That was supposed to be some sort of knighthood, guess I used the wrong template? ħumanUser talk:Human 03:21, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the penguin. :-) --Bobbing up 04:22, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
Any time. I am still looking for the penguin badge of honor. You'll have to settle for penguins about to commit suicide for now... ħumanUser talk:Human 04:54, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
Actually, I'm wondering if that picture was taken in the north or south pole, because well you know ......--Bobbing up 05:01, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
Arrrggghhh you have ruined my night!!!! And my year!!! I shall never again in my life shake that image from my brain!!!! Wait, what did you mean? ħumanUser talk:Human 05:05, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
Well, did the penguins swim all the way around the globe from Antarctica to annoy the bear, or was the bear air-freighted to the south pole by mistake?--Bobbing up 05:08, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
Oh that's easy. Fed Ex bought Photoshop. Whew! ħumanUser talk:Human 05:19, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
Penguins DO live in the northern hemisphere (and not in zoos) so don't believe these pedants who erroneously think otherwise. Redchuck.gif Генгисpillaging 06:12, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
Ah yes, but not in the Arctic. :-) --Bobbing up 11:05, 9 October 2008 (EDT)


I will step in for my fellow Penguin Knight and promote you myself:

Bob M, In recognition of being a constant nuisance to irrational people everywhere, you are herby promoted to the rank of


By earning this promotion, you will be given no new rights per se, but you should know that your ability to swim and eat live fish will now increase tenfold, and you will always look fabulous in a tuxedo. Should you continue on your meteoric rise here on Rationalwiki, you may be awarded the highest possible honor, that of Penguin Knight. Good luck to you. For more information on rights and responsibilities, please see here

Thank you. I find myself both humbled and honoured by the decoration.--Bobbing up 13:09, 9 October 2008 (EDT)


Dammit, and I had been doing so well flying under the radar. Oh well. Thanks, I guess. Smyth 13:20, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

You've been around like for ever - I can't understand how you avoided responsibility for so long. No more shirking!--Bobbing up 13:23, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
It's what I do best. Smyth 13:24, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
The sad thing is that no good deed goes unpunished, and your time has clearly come. I still can't believe you managed a little over a year without being picked up by the RW sysop-seeking radar.--Bobbing up 13:30, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
What can I say, it's a talent. I've been at CP longer and thankfully been off the radar there as well. Mwahahaha...

Think you were gone?

No, no. I just figured my first block should be of the person that demoted me's all. Smyth 16:56, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

hey mate!

thanks for inviting me! I might be a little right of center in some issues, but I'm not troublemaker! godspeed! haha— Unsigned, by: Matias / talk / contribs

Hi Matias. You're most welcome, but I assume that you mean "thanks for welcoming". :-) --Bobbing up 02:51, 6 November 2008 (EST)

Hiya, Jon, Andy, Dave, Sara, and/or Hugo!

Thanks for being so hospitable! I feel bad that I didn't reply sooner--my Net conversational skills are not quite up to muster, and I have about the attention span of a gna

DUDE! You're a member of the Gang of Four? I LOVE the Gang of Four! "To hell with povertyyyy...we'll get drunk on cheap wine!" Can I get an autograph for my copy of Entertainment!? PULEEEASE? A Writer of Vaudevilles 00:11, 8 November 2008 (EST)

Ah, Entertainment! What a record... what a band... ħumanUser talk:Human 01:22, 8 November 2008 (EST)
I am always happy to autograph anything. Ohmy.gif Please send it to me in an unmarked brown envelope. But I can't help thinking that you may have confused me for a member of some other Gang of Four.--Bobbing up 04:03, 8 November 2008 (EST)

Hi and thanks!

Thanks for the friendly welcome on my talk page, glad to be here. Redback 05:37, 9 November 2008 (EST)

A pleasure, always nice to see new people.--Bobbing up 06:17, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Vilkommen etc.

You realize that the "welcome" template includes a link tot he nuke-ummers guide, right? Not that there's anything wrong with adding a personal touch and link ;) ħumanUser talk:Human 00:41, 14 November 2008 (EST)

Yes, I agree it does. It's just that I suspect that most people will think the template is "just a template". Furthermore, the things that really make us different are in the guide but it doesn't really stand out in the template itself. So when I welcome people I like to make an additional reference to it in my message.
I had thought of reconstructing the welcome template to make the guide more prominent, but as the template is owned by the community I decided against messing with it too much. Also as I wrote most of the guide I didn't want to look as though I was insisting that the whole site gave my ideas priority. I concluded that the best was forward was to try to be quick off the mark with welcoming people and make sure that I gave the guide a bit of special attention in my welcome.--Bobbing up 03:17, 14 November 2008 (EST)
Ah, I see. That makes sense, thanks! ħumanUser talk:Human 20:06, 16 November 2008 (EST)


Hi Bob. Thanks for the warm welcome! Im not certain what you mean by "controversial edits." The two edits Ive done thus far certainly relate to controversial subjects, but I fail to see how the edits themselves could be considered controversial. The first dealt with simply destroying a false assertion about what was in the Bible. I did this through deeply researching the subject; I actually read the passage it quoted. Its previous interpretation was clearly incorrect in that it contradicted a clear reading of what the passage{s) stated. The second edit dealt simply with adding certain detail to one side of the abortion debate. My inspiration for doing this was complicated; I saw the right side to be full to the brim, while the left side was almost empty by comparison. Into this empty section I added a concept (and some logic behind it) for sake of clarify, explanation, and reasonability. That's all I did. Again, thanks for the welcome, and I will no doubt be talking with you again. :) -Zahd 14:31, 23 November 2008 (EST)

OK, I saw that you were editing controversial articles and thought that your edits might be (or become) controversial. with regard to your strikeout, that is not how it's done here. You should either raise the issue on the talk page pointing out why it's wrong, or you edit the article to correct it and cut the erroneous information to talk with an explanation. As you're new here I would recommend the first option initially. If nobody responds within a day or so just do the edit you feel appropriate with a note saying you raised it on talk. But please don't just do a strikeout - it will be meaningless to those who come later.--Bobbing up 14:38, 23 November 2008 (EST)
Got it. Thanks. Will follow. -Zahd 15:31, 23 November 2008 (EST)


Congratulations! They're so upset they've stopped new account creation. You can still edit if you're prepared to use up a sockie. Of course with relatively little from new accounts they'll probably be onto you fast. Can we stop them allowing new accounts every time we put pressure onto them? Proxima Centauri 09:04, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Hi PC. I'm afraid that my name has been taken in vain. Ohmy.gif In other words, that wasn't me. To be honest, I've not got much interest in playing games with CP.--Bobbing up 10:48, 25 November 2008 (EST)


I don't feel nearly as cool without a sysop status, can you make me one? Alecwh 22:20, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Thanks! Is there a guide somewhere for sysops? Alecwh
Nevermind, found it. Alecwh 23:17, 27 November 2008 (EST)
Actually you should thank User:Tmtoulouse he got there before me. But congratulations on your demotion.--Bobbing up 06:34, 28 November 2008 (EST)


Missing you already (not sarcastic) ToastToastand marmite 13:09, 1 December 2008 (EST)

How do I rename?

I'd like to rename some of the Freds and the Tits. Proxima Centauri 05:35, 7 December 2008 (EST)

I believe you've gotta be a bureaucrat. Fortinbrass 05:40, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Voice from above: That's true. What do you want to rename them to PC? I think we know where we are with Freds & Tits. The names are not particularly offensive so why bother, it's easier just to rollback their edits. They will just recreate another Fred or Tit if you rename them. Redchuck.gif Генгисpillaging 05:58, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Voice from below. Yes, you do indeed need these special powerz. And I also see little point in re-naming them.--Bobbing up 07:41, 7 December 2008 (EST)

The little blockie

I'm range blocked at Conservapedia. Anyone know about proxies? Proxima Centauri 08:22, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Hi PC. Thank you for asking, but you may have mistaken me for somebody else. Th unsure.gif I have no special expertise at evading blocks and little interest at playing games at CP. I wish you the best in your endeavours. --Bobbing up 08:27, 7 December 2008 (EST)


Regards, --Rose Pedаls 14:27, 10 December 2008 (EST)