Talk:Eugenics

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Iceland[edit]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/down-syndrome-iceland/

Down Syndrome rates are plunging in Iceland due to pre-natal screening. I don't think it counts as an actual eugenics program since it's just about the wide availability of pre-natal screening, but thought maybe it warrants a mention. — Unsigned, by: 89.27.89.201 / talk

Suggestion: Take out haemophilia and reference 21. This is not an example of lack of genetic diversity, but of a mutation that happened in the testicles of Queen Victoria's father, who was quite old already when he begat her, which means a lot of time to accumulate genetic garbage. Taking out genetic garbage before it does too much damage is what eugenics is all about. Zaphenath paneah (talk) 02:15, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

What counts?[edit]

Does eugenic practices have to be enforced on a governmental level or a personal level to be considered eugenics? Does intent matter if the action is essentially producing the same result? See:

Recent unwarranted decision to give DNR notices to people with disabilities. This mirrors eugenics in theory, since why are they selecting people who have learning disabilities? The implicit message here is that one person is being valued over another when it comes to selecting who gets to live and who dies.

Similar issue, the effects of the racist American system effectively has eugenic results. BumblingBuffoon (talk) 15:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Conflation[edit]

A major problem is that there are two (partially overlapping) actual issues.

'Classical eugenics as a policy' which is seen as A Bad Thing.

'Genetic engineering and selection', to minimise the surfacing of, or potentially eliminate, certain genes and combinations thereof, which are 'life limiting etc' and certain developmental disorders. This is a slightly different situation. Where the dividing line should be is the point of debate.

Thoughts? Anna Livia (talk) 13:12, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Is eugenics actually pseudoscience?[edit]

Should the thread above this one be put one of those collapsable templates?[edit]

Self-explanatory question; Asking mainly because it's too long, and also because, after skimming through it, it seems to me that the guy who started it was just spewing bullshit. TheOneAndOnlyCirrusMan (talk) 18:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Bump TheOneAndOnlyCirrusMan (talk) 23:55, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Done. Bongolian (talk) 01:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC)