Talk:Justice Democrats

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Donations to political campaigns reform[edit]

I think that we should point some flaws in their ideas like their goal to ban private donations (which by this I meant that they will ban people from donating to political campaigns). This is very short-sighted as it prevents the people from having a voice in government. The Sanders campaign could not have suceeded if private citizens were prohibited from donating and the Justice Democrats are being funded by private citizens. Tuxer (talk) 03:28, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

The idea of banning private donations is to switch entirely to a publically-funded campaign system. If the only meaningful way people can have a "voice in government" is by donating to political campaigns, then there will be a few people who have a lot more voice than the majority of the population. Which is what we have now, which is why what the majority of Americans want is a statistically insignificant factor in policies passed by Congress. Onychoprion (talk) 19:03, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Neoliberals[edit]

Most of the current Democratic establishment, and especially Obama and Hillary Clinton, are not neoliberals. The people who wrote and passed Dodd-Frank and wanted to recreate Glass-Steagall are not neoliberals. Kodak (talk) 13:04, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Cenk Uygur's old blog posts[edit]

Uygur has resigned and agreed to remove himself from "any and all involvement" in Justice Democrats after the organisation demanded his resignation due to blog posts he had written in the early 2000s.

In an entry from 2000, Uygur complained about not having enough sex while living in Miami: “It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean,” he wrote. “Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.”

In another entry, “Rules of Dating,” Uygur described how fast physical intimacy should progress. “Women, ignore these at your peril,” he wrote. “Rule 1: There must be some serious making out by the third date. If I haven’t felt your tits by then, things are not about to last much longer. In fact, if you don’t get back on track by the fourth date, you’re done.” He added: “Rule 2: There must be orgasm by the fifth date.”

In a a[sic] post archived in 2003, he wrote about carousing with numerous women in New Orleans while drunk. “I had one of the best nights of my life at Mardi Gras. I kissed over 23 different women, saw and felt countless breasts, and was in a wonderful drunken stupor thanks to my friend John Daniels,” reads the post.

There is another quote about "whores in training" that some are attributing to Uygur. However, the archive shows it was written by David Koller.

Uygur apologised and said he "had not yet matured" despite being a 30-year-old man in 2000.

“The stuff I wrote back then was really insensitive and ignorant,” Uygur said. “If you read that today, what I wrote 18 years ago, and you’re offended by it, you’re 100 percent right. And anyone who is subjected to that material, I apologize to. And I deeply regret having written that stuff when I was a different guy.”
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“If someone said that today, I would heavily criticize them on the show and rightfully so, and I have. I’ve criticized myself over the years,” he added. “I had not yet matured and I was still a conservative who thought that stuff was politically incorrect and edgy. When you read it now, it looks really, honestly, ugly. And it’s very uncomfortable to read.”

Sources:
https://www.thewrap.com/young-turks-cenk-uygur-blog-breasts-women-flawed/
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/366156-young-turks-founder-apologizes-for-ignorant-past-blog-posts-about-women
https://thedailybanter.com/2017/12/your-satire-sucks/ CowHouse (talk) 05:42, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

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This article reads like a puff-piece or an advertisement. I didn't know that was part of our mission. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 03:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

While only 7 of the primary victors ultimately ended up winning, their impact has not gone unnoticed and the broader left-wing movement that they represent will likely not go away any time soon.

Seriously? This isn't a summary, it's pure political spin. --Calton (talk) 07:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Delete[edit]

Sorry but this article needs deleting. It's just plainly off topic both in content, and subject matter. Kiko4564 (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)