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[edit] Herein goeth anything regarding the technicalities of the wiki

FAQs & Problems:

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If you've written, or are using, some extension or script that either might give others problems or is giving you a problem, then either describe it or link to it on this page.

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In short, anything techy, ask, tell or link on this page.

If you think it is a server-type issue, feel free to email the goat at ttoulouse@gmail.com or touloutm@mcmaster.ca for best results.

[edit] Transitioning to MediaWiki 1.23 (sticky)

RW is currently running MediaWiki 1.19, and its end-of-life is May 2015. As it's April now, it's about time to start a transition to 1.23, the next long-term support version. At the very least, installing 23 to rationalbeta to see what breaks would give people time to spot and fix resign to any problems during the next month or so.--ZooGuard (talk) 10:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Emailed Trent about this (amongst many things) a few days ago, waiting on response - David Gerard (talk) 23:13, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Any progress with this? I haven't followed closely the wiki recently, so if there was a "come to Rationalbeta to break it" announcement I haven't seen it.--ZooGuard (talk) 10:36, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
0 so far. I'll set it up on my private box at some point - David Gerard (talk) 11:05, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Setting it up as I write this - David Gerard (talk) 21:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
FUCKING INNODB FUCK FUCKING FUCK YOU AAAAAAAAA - David Gerard (talk) 07:20, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
FUCKING FUCKING INNODB. The database is big enough that I cannot fit it on my server ... in 200GB of space. That's a 45GB database as imported into InnoDB. I do not know what the fuck MySQL thinks it's doing there. But I'll need another approach, or possibly another box. Fuck - David Gerard (talk) 22:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
FUCKING BINLOGS WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY ON BY DEFAULT Well, I've got it onto the test server. Stuff is not working right and it's really slow without the Squids in front, but I should have something to start kicking shortly ... - David Gerard (talk) 22:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Just preventing this from getting archived.--ZooGuard (talk) 12:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Let's see if stickying it works - ZooBot does detect that, doesn't it? :-) - David Gerard (talk) 14:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
It would seem so. WalkerWalkerWalker 23:34, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Ref oddness and image thumbnails

So, on both Gamergate (check the first note, in the caption of the lead picture) and Little Green Footballs, it looks like references aren't showing up in the reflist when they're embedded in other Wikimarkup, like templates or image captions. But on Joseph Stalin, there's a reference in the quote template at the top, and it shows up just fine. Is there some difference I'm missing? Also, on a related note, for me the lead image on Gamergate is blank. It's also blank on the File page, but I do see the actual image file if I go to it. I think this means there's a problem with the thumbnail that Mediawiki generates. I think I've seen empty thumbnails on a couple other articles, but I'm lazy and haven't taken note of them. --Ymir (talk) 18:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

For the first, wikitext is basically evil and fucked up anyway so I'm unsurprised. For the second, I see this occasionally and it's intermittent - may be a side effect of our slightly weird setup - David Gerard (talk) 21:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Little Green Footballs had problems because the {{cquote}} template was before the {{media}} template (which adds the sidebar); I reversed the order and it works now. I have no idea why this happens, but this is the case for all the sidebars (this has bitten me on a few occasions). I don't see a problem with Gamergate? The note after "It's actually about ethics in video game journalism, you fucking slut!" seems to work? Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Holy crap, how did you figure that one. Well done. Davis Aurini is right now too - David Gerard (talk) 23:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
The sidebar thing was pointed out before, though. Any idea on if that can be fixed? (talk) 23:52, 26 October 42015 AQD (UTC)
No, because wikitext is evil and fucked up, and the sidebars use DPL which is even worse - David Gerard (talk) 00:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

[edit] I can barely read the spam questions

Is there a spam check bypass list I can be added to? Better yet, can we please find an anti spam solution that won't stop would be editors from creating new accounts? Aleksandra96 (talk) 17:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I've found that some are ridiculously hard, and others are ridiculously easy. There should be a "load new image" button, so if one is particularly hard, try loading a new one. Carpetsmoker (talk) 17:04, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I do that until I can find one that's just legible to read and it still takes several cycles and multiple attempts. Aleksandra96 (talk) 17:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
FWIW, I've just added you to "autopatrolled" - David Gerard (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Edit filter

I (as a logged-out bonbon pleb, which was my first mistake) have recently been smacked with a 3.6 day block by the edit filter, which was quite assuredly a false positive. I went on and unblocked my IP (after pointless ineffective revenge-blocking of the edit filter, of course), so that's not a worry, but should I email the offending material to somebody to look at or just not worry about it? WalkerWalkerWalker 20:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Carpetbot

Could someone ninja that damn bot, it's clogging up the RC!--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 21:49, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Attempts to post on Saloon Bar marked as vandalism?

Title pretty much describes it. I was attempting to discuss the elections in the Saloon Bar as related to my own home state (Kentucky) electing Matt Bevin and I was getting flagged when I attempted to post for vandalism/trolling. Is it a way or manner in which I'm posting or a site error? I don't think I'm making a formatting mistake, and I've only ever previously posted in the Saloon Bar as well as far as I can remember, so I don't know why I would be marked as a troll. Quirk (talk) 03:38, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Let me have a look and I'll get back to you. Gooniepunk (talk) 03:40, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
That filter seems to need a bit of re-formatting. As it stands, I don't have time to do it. I have kept the filter in "frustration" mode, so go ahead and keep posting, but if you get any warnings from it, just ignore them (nothing will happen, your edit will get through). Gooniepunk (talk) 03:47, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Block log appearing in watchlist -- any way to have that not happen?

Is there any way to set up my watchlist so that blocks (issued by folks whose user talk pages are on the list, I believe...) do not appear on said list? Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 17:50, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Wikicommons images problem

I tried to insert an Wikicommons image into the Donald Trump article (an image with the best filename eva), but all I see, is a red link. What should I do?--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 19:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

P.S.: All the Wikicommons images did stop being integrated into RW articles. Redlinks everywhere!--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 19:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Getting the same issue here. This seems to happen from time to time. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 22:14, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Aw, crap. Someone changed the API and didn't tell us.--Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:23, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
>_< I'll have a look in a spare moment (something I've been short on) - David Gerard (talk) 13:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Looks like a bug on their end, actually. Not sure they changed the API. Hipocrite (talk) 15:26, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Got any details? - David Gerard (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Fixed [1]. BTW, Commons images now come in by HTTPS only, not HTTP. (yeah yeah on that case too) - David Gerard (talk) 16:33, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Seems to be broken once more, and recent uploads have disappeared as well. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 05:16, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Seems to be fine? — Carpetsmoker (talk) 06:42, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
No, it isn't I tried emptying my browser cache, tried using another browser, tried even Tor Browser, but to no avail!--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 14:34, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
LocalSettings.php was wrong on the second server. (It appears most of the stuff on apache1 syncs to apache2, but not that. No, we don't use NFS like any sensible MediaWiki farm because it didn't work properly so Trent kludged something.) Now working for me - David Gerard (talk) 17:10, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Thx, now it works again!--17:21, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion reason

We could do with having "failed AfD" as a preset deletion reason. See MediaWiki talk:Deletereason-dropdown#New one needed. BicyclewheelModerator 19:52, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

"AFD vote" is now in - David Gerard (talk) 13:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Minor nitpick, but perhaps this list be put in alphabetical order? :-) It looks like it started out alphabetically, but other reasons were later added at the end... Carpetsmoker (talk) 02:45, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
if nobody else does it I'll do it when I get home--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 02:59, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Eligible users list of members

My apologies if this is the wrong place to put this but the "To do list" seems to be for new articles only. Could one of the techs (or someone else who is able to) make a Special:ListUsers page like [this one] for Eligible users to go on the User group rights special page? Thank you. SolPyre (talk) 19:14, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Image doesn't load?

The very first image, a troll insulting Feminist Frequency (this image), in the article for Gamergate isn't showing up. Is there a reason or is it just a bug? Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 04:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Seems to work fine for me? Carpetsmoker (talk) 05:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
It's just a bit of lag on one of the servers. Give it a few minutes and it'll be there. Gooniepunk (talk) 05:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Screenshot (6) - Copy.png
It never does. It's been like that for months now. How can lag take that long for a file so small? Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 05:47, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Strange ... File:Gamergate_twitter.jpg does show, right? You can try clearing the cache and see of that helps? Carpetsmoker (talk) 06:23, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Nope, still doesn't work. Is it probably just a browser-specific bug? Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 06:42, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
That would be unlikely. I see you're running some AdBlock extension? Maybe try disabling that (& maybe all other extensions as well) and see if that fixes it? Carpetsmoker (talk) 07:09, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Works for me. It's literally just Squid proxying for Apache serving a static image, there's very little here to go wrong - David Gerard (talk) 11:23, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Moderator elections

I was trying to vote in the election booth. However, it keeps saying that elections are closed. Can we get this opened up, and give an extension of the voting deadline by a few days as a result of this error. Thanks in advance. Gooniepunk aka Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 04:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Whoever also knows how to should most definitely share this information with some of us as well, and whatever other technical secrets are laying around since the loss of our old coders.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 05:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
If I read rightly, it requires dicking around in LocalSetting.php with a stick and a grimorie. WalkerWalkerWalker 05:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Pretty much. I've got it to the stage where it gives me a "vote" button with no actual options to vote for ... Also, who's counting the votes? Surely not me, given I'm a candidate ... - David Gerard (talk) 20:26, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Did you set $wgElectionCandidates yet? And shit, good question... WalkerWalkerWalker 20:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Apparently I'm supposed to sacrifice the goat with black candles, so I'll need to nick down the Tesco shortly and hope they're in stock - David Gerard (talk) 20:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
AgingHippie has stepped up to be returning officer. I could send him faked data, but I promise I won't ... how's that for paper walls.
OK, I need $wgElectionName (which is a string), $wgElectionCandidates (which is an array of strings?) and I'm trying to work out where the hell it writes the votes. Apparently to a particular database table. I'd hope for a suitable way to extract this that wasn't by hand. Also, there's election.php and a separate extension Election ... - David Gerard (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Is it by chance http://rationalwiki.org/w/foobar.blt where foobar is $wgElectionName or did I misread/just plain wrong? WalkerWalkerWalker 21:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
(like what's at http://rationalwiki.org/w/2011board.blt for you? For me it's a 403) WalkerWalkerWalker 21:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Yep, it's created the file and there's what looks like a vote in it. Your private vote is safe from me cos I can't make head nor tail of what the numbers in it mean - David Gerard (talk) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't care if you could, so hey, we're all good here til time to sort the results out? WalkerWalkerWalker 22:11, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Actually, what the first number, if I may ask? WalkerWalkerWalker 22:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
There are four lines now: starting with numbers, three of which correspond to user IDs (so I don't want to post them) and one is 48085 which isn't a user_id - David Gerard (talk) 22:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Well then that answers the question just as well. SockTheory 22:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

OK, I think I have a handle on this. Could someone please vote and note that you have voted ... it's 1000000000 candidates and takes ages to fill in but hey - David Gerard (talk) 22:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Have voted. Was politely told thank you by machine. WalkerWalkerWalker 22:05, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
And, I also just cast the most momentous votes of my life.---Mona- (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Yep, what they said. Voted and was thanked.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 08:05, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] wtf is up with image uploads

File:Einstein_tongue.png should look like this, and it did work for a day orso, but now it's back at the old version somehow (actually a mixture of both, since the dimensions seem to be the new one). I've noticed more strange quirks when uploading new versions of existing images, for example I uploaded a new version of File:Chemtrails.jpg and it worked fine, but a day orso later it was back at the old version with nothing in the history (?) The second time it did stick, though... I had the same problem with File:Screenshot_(6)_-_Copy.png, which I reduced to only the relevant section, but a day later it was back to the humongous version.

The history and stuff looks fine, it's almost like the files on the filesystem are somehow wrong? Carpetsmoker (talk) 12:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I went to it with "?action=purge" on the end and it came good. Basically the aspect ratio of the image had changed, and MediaWiki was still trying to display it with the old one. Purging meant it checked the file again - David Gerard (talk) 15:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Hm, for File:Screenshot (6) - Copy.png is fixed now, but for File:Einstein_tongue.png it's the correct aspect ratio, but still the old image Carpetsmoker (talk) 12:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Did you try the "?action=purge" thing? Works for me. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Einstein_tongue.png?action=purge €₳$£ΘĪÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 13:35, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I did that (and again just now). Are you sure you're seeing the *new* image? It's the same image, but with better lighting (this is what it should be). Carpetsmoker (talk) 13:38, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
No, I don't see that. The file history shows the same 330 × 330 image three times but with the middle one squashed to 230 × 286. I suggest starting over & uploading to a new filename. €₳$£ΘĪÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 21:05, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
A lot of stuff links to this image.. Don't want to break that. And it should "just work" :-/ I'll try again later when I got some time... Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Most of that stuff is user pages transcluding a userbox template, which can be updated all in one go. Besides which, why not just replace it on whatever pages you think are important & just leave the rest as-is? WeaseloidWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:19, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] An important page of RationalWiki's history is broken

Every time I try to visit User:Human/Hot l Baltimore, it gives me a server error. This is not just from my PC computer, but from my android phone as well. Every time I try to do anything that would allow me to see the page, I get the following error:

Server error
Hide details
The website encountered an error while retrieving http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&action=submit. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.
Reload this webpage
Press the reload button to resubmit the data needed to load the page.

I tried to delete and restore the page to fix it, but that did nothing other than leave the page deleted. When I attempt to resurrect the page, the error returns. Gooniepunk (talk) 06:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, now when I try to use "resurrect," the error I receive is "Error 500 occurred while restoring the page." Gooniepunk (talk) 06:18, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
I have the same problem (quite aside from the problem of wanting to read that crap!) Anyway, if I recall rightly the page was moved, deleted and re-moved so often that clearly something broke somewhere. BicyclewheelModerator 09:07, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Solved! I've pasted most of the content into a new funspace page. I removed a couple of things. So it was either one of the two top templates or a gallery with image: instead of file: for the pictures. BicyclewheelModerator 09:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
It wasn't the gallery so that's back in now. BicyclewheelModerator 09:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Fun:The Weeping Lion had the same problem (a faulty template) and now it's back up. BicyclewheelModerator 19:51, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

RationalWiki:Drink_counter/Archive2 is suffering from the same glitch. ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:57, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Will fix right after this fried egg butty. BicyclewheelModerator 20:32, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Fixed. Eggs are obviously good for me this week. BicyclewheelModerator 20:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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