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[edit] Wisconsin Bans Potatoes

So in the WIGO, one of the stories is about how Wisconsin no longer lets people on WIC buy certain foods. One of those? Potatoes. POTATOES. That list, I mean I can understand saying "don't spend money on worthless organic food", but all beans and rice in 1 lb bags only? Yet milk can only be bought by the gallon, because fuck you this is Wisconsin. Just, what the fuck? CorruptUser (talk) 04:09, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Actually it's sad that organic foods are banned at all. Ultimately I think the problem here boils down to food subsidies and the fact that certain crops, such as corn receive huge subsidies while organic foods like apples or unprocessed potatoes do not. Ironically this has actually led to obesity becoming a large problem among the poor, not because they are eating more necessarily, but because they can't afford healthier food options. There's only so much you can buy with a these programs, and when your on a budget cereal and junk food aren't just cheap ways to get calories, they're often the only way to get calories. Samstr (talk) 04:33, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
The only significant difference between organic apples and regular apples of the same cultivar is the price. If organic pesticides and so forth were truly superior, the farmers would've already used them. But yes, subsidies are a problem. CorruptUser (talk) 04:54, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
the argument for organic pesticides is that are better for the environment, better for people or just taste nicer. Quite apart from if that is true or not, it has nothing to do with higher yields, so no, farmers would not be using them already if they did what they claimed. AMassiveGay (talk) 10:44, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm really curious as to how this list was compiled and why certain items were deemed unfit for support. For instance, why is sauerkraut banned? It's a non perishable food which, as far as I recall, is quite healthy and not particularly expensive, yet it got the thumbs down. The list seems a weird concoction of mundane good nutritional thinking (don't support products with added corn syrup or sugars or let people use stamps for frozen vegetables to buy fries) and outright arbitrary bans (potatoes, sauerkraut, and the really strange ban on brown eggs). I suspect, if I take my positive, charitable interpretation glasses on, that the spuds ban is to make sure that the fresh fruit and vegetable stamps aren't simply spent on potatoes (which, although a good all round source of nutrition should probably be supplemented by fruits and veg). ScepticWombat (talk) 11:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
I am curious about this item. I live in Wisconsin and am on the state food stamop program. There has been no notification of restrictions. I do agree that some items you can purchase should be disallowed (snack foods, candy, etc)to make the available money go farther. Hamster (talk) 14:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Lobbyist from the various food companies and agribusiness etc help determine what is and isn't allowed on WIC. Coca-Cola for example stands to make a lot of money if their products are on the list for WIC, TANF, etc.Guymanne (talk) 17:16, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
There isn't a whole lot of light between the "health" agenda and the "let's beat up the poor" agenda. It's all about being your fault for not living right. That's why you're poor, and that's why you're fat. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 19:08, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── The question I've always had was, "how do you eat on SNAP if you don't even have a stove"? I mean yeah, I could theoretically live off of $50/month in food with my sacks of rice and vegetables, but only if I have a means of cooking the food. What can homeless people do? CorruptUser (talk) 19:19, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

The "hobo stove[wp]" isn't called "hobo stove" for nothing, so at the very least theoretically it is possible, not that this whole idea of restricting what people can buy with food stamps is a good idea, to begin with.--Arisboch (talk) 19:26, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Fuck. Where I live most EBT recipients sell their EBT for dope. And commercial establishments, like restaurants, buy it up. nobsI'm not from this planet, but let me tell u what I think.... 23:45, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
How could you possibly know this about "most" of anybody? And what restaurant has an EBT terminal? How would a restaurant redeem EBT credit for money from the government? RachelW (talk) 23:54, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Nobs is our resident angry old conservative. However, generally he disagrees on the interpretation of the facts rather than denying them like wingnuts and moonbats usually do, so it's not too bad. Plus, he knows more about the mid-east (and Hillary) than most people here, so he's useful. CorruptUser (talk) 01:43, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
@Rachel Most restaurants are mom n' pop shops, but there's Burger King franchise that also does it. A burrito wagon, too. The doper goes in, says, "May I speak with the Manager?" Manager comes out and doper says "I have EBT to sell." Manager says, "How much?" Doper says, "Full boat", meaning approximately $200 for single individual. Manager takes the card, and pin number, verifies balance on an 800 number, goes to Costco or a Restaurant Wholesale Supply Cash and Carry outlet, returns the card the following day with payment of 50 cents on the dollar. Many restaurants, and the Mexican Mafia that runs the dope business in my area, probably couldn't stay in business without this federal government subsidy. nobsI'm not from this planet, but let me tell u what I think.... 03:49, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
You're right, Rob - Conservapedia needs you. Go, go now! PsyGremlinSpeak! 04:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
So why doesn't government just set up internal flags to monitor what the EBT cards are spent on, and investigate odd purchases? Like, a person buying $200 of onions, and another person buying $200 of tomatoes, etc. CorruptUser (talk) 04:40, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Because that would be Big Government snooping and prying into the business of good, hard-workin', God-fearin' Americans. It's much easier to slag off the poor. PsyGremlinSpeak! 05:36, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Tracking federal funds is a huge problem (out of control spending , to garner a phrase). Half the billions appropriated in Afghanistan goes unaccounted for, so there's no way to keep track of a $200 crate of potatoes or onions in the US. Besides, what you're suggesting only increases federal spending and costs, i.e. hiring enforcement investigators to act on the information fraud auditors uncover. nobsI'm not from this planet, but let me tell u what I think.... 04:48, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Organization of an online Dungeons&Dragons game

So there's this website called roll20.net. It's a simulator that allows you to organize tabletop RPG games over the internet, complete with designing your own maps and a random number generator for dice rolls. Considering this, I was wondering if any of you fellow nerds would be interested in helping me set up a campaign on it for Rationalwiki members only (and it doesn't have to be D&D, but it most likely will). Just a crazy idea that I had, let me know if it's a little too crazy. Master Necromancer(fear me!) 02:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm interested. So what edition are we talking about here? I've been itching to play 5E.--Nord Ronnoc (talk) 07:29, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I was thinking 3.5, but it depends on what people feel like playing. I know we aren't playing 4e. Master Necromancer(fear me!) 11:27, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
If it's DnD, can I be a gnoll or gnollwhal? (Also, Paranoia seems like a more RW game than DnD.) Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 07:58, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I agree paranoia does sound fun from what ive read on tv tropes. Bubba41102Taste the shortness 19:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I've got 3.5 books as well as a complete collection for Deathwatch. Zero (talk - contributions) 08:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
How about the Starship Troopers tabletop RPG[wp]?! I have a PDF of it on my desktop somewhere. Crispy (talk) 13:20, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I've used roll20 for a WoD God-Machine campaign. It's pretty good. I'd be interested. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 19:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok, so we have some people interested in playing. Now it comes down to deciding which game to play (D&D, Warhammer40k, Pathfinder, etc.). I vote for D&D 3.5, since most people that have played tabletop RPG's have played it. Master Necromancer(fear me!) 20:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I say 5E. --Nord Ronnoc (talk) 05:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm good with whatever, but I haven't played in ages so I'll have to study the book intensively for a few. Crispy (talk) 12:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I vote Paranoia. The rules are so fluid. Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 10:40, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
"Voting", Citizen? So sorry, but what is your clearance level? Shadow of Lords talk 13:44, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
You have the clearance to ask that question. You do not have clearance to know whether or not you are cleared for a response. Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 13:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Please report to your nearest confession booth for mandatory optional blood toxicity readjustment. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 14:25, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I thought the procedure for this was an optional mandatory oxygen deprivation test. Bubba41102Anonymous user is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike an editor 14:28, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Halt! Prove you are not a Commie by answering the following question; QUESTION REDACTED. CorruptUser (talk) 14:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Hey you go kill some invincible mutant cyborgs for me. Bubba41102Anonymous user is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike an editor 14:36, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ALERT! Alpha Complex is suffering from shortage:Freedom Burgers. Please report to Grinding Room Gamma for assistance. CorruptUser (talk) 14:38, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Alert! Grinding Room Gamma is run by COMMIES go and kill them. Bubba41102Anonymous user is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike an editor 14:39, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Citizen, why not lead us in a rousing chorus of the Alpha Complex anthem? Remembering, of course, that failures of rhyme, meter and tempo are all treasonous. Queexchthonic murmurings 15:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
(Meanwhile, the words can't do that.) Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 15:55, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I might actually join, I'm currently trying to set up a group with my friends so I might not take this one too seriously. I call Gnome Barbarian. Samstr (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
If you are going to be a lunatic, might as well be a bard or illusionist. Use your bard song to help us sneak across the battlefield! Grapple everyone faster than the speed of sound!CorruptUser (talk) 18:01, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I like the idea of the Gnome barbarian too much, just for the lolz. I might actually go Gnome Illusionist if I want to be serious though. It has been a very long time since I last played though, so I'll need to brush up on the rules :p. Samstr (talk) 18:11, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I GOT IT! Planescape with Paranoia thrown in! It'll be perfect! Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 18:55, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
How will that work? Is it somehow Paranoia like rules inside the Planescape world or something? Samstr (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

So I just made an account. I keep wondering if the person with Teurastaja unlike editor thing looked like that before I created it. Really unnerving. Anyway, any of you heard of a game called Kult?Teurastaja (talk) 03:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)Teurastaja

How do I join the group? I signed up as well. --Nord Ronnoc (talk) 06:17, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't think it has officially been set up yet. Someone with a decent amount of d&d experience should set it up on roll20 and DM. Samstr (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Is the Horseshoe Theory always bad?

This is something I've been thinking about. Our article on the Horseshoe Theory talks about how the far right and the far left are, in many ways, more similar to each other than to the center. However, it frames this, as best I can tell, completely in terms of negative qualities like authoritarianism. However, this assumes that you can never have a situation in which the Center is wrong, and the fringes are calling them on it. I know some people will scream Stopped Clock, but I think part of it is that we're so used to certain ideas that the only people who are going to question them are people outside the mainstream. I'm particularly thinking about how Libertarians and Social Democrats in recent years have both taken stances in favor of drug decriminalization or legalization, both have fought to end mass incarceration, and both have spoken out against the militarization of the police.--Mustex (talk) 06:37, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

In the UK the Greens and UKIP have just joined forces in trying to change the voting system. Also, do you mean the radical centre (or the Extreme Centre for people who don't like it)? BicyclewheelModerator 08:50, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
The horseshoe theory is as limited as any other left-to-right linear conception of the political spectrum. The Nolan chart or political Compass is more realistic, and shows how people who may come from other ends of spectrum in terms of welfare and economic policy may have a lot in common in their approach to personal liberties. WēāŝēīōīďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 12:37, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
The Horseshoe Theory isn't supposed to provide an ideological scale per se, but instead an approach to politics which could be termed radicalism vs. status quo, or populist vs. elitist. For instance, in Weimar Germany, while the elitist right wingers (such as the old officer class and/or monarchists) may have been ideologically very similar to Nazis, the Nazis were, given their focus on the masses, far closer to the Communists. And you could actually argue, as has been done, that the centre was wrong in terms of how to deal with the Great Depression, where FDR, Hitler and some of the Scandinavian Social Democratic cabinets all pursued a "radical", interventionist, Keynesian strategy which was opposed by the old centre of (classical) liberals and conservatives, like the UK Whigs and Tories, who kept harping on what today is known as "austerity". So no, the "centrist" consensus is not always in the right. ScepticWombat (talk) 13:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
The main reason Horseshoe theory works is that opposition to the prevailing attitudes of the day naturally tend towards deconstruction of certain social or governmental power centers. Wanting to rewrite the world requires taking out, say, the big banks, whether you're a free market nutjub or a socialist nutjob. So the fringe finds unity in opposition to the status quo. And since the world is far from perfect, the "wipe it and do it right" attitude is going to resonate with anyone. Just usually those fringe groups can't be trusted to "do it right". ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 13:36, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Speaking of which, I always hated that aphorism "this century's radical is next century's conservative", which is the radical's way of claiming to be ahead of the times. While it's true that the conservatives of next century would be radical today, last century was full of radical nutjobs that today are still radical nutjobs. Look at all the 19th century insane ideas. Fourierism, Owenism, Taylorism, Iron law of Wages theory, Marxism, etc. CorruptUser (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
#NotAllRadicals--Arisboch (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, CorruptUser has a point, but what was known as radicalism in the 19th century[wp] largely is, if not conservatism, then at least social liberal status quo (universal suffrage, abolishment of inherited rights, republicanism or at least ceremonial monarchy etc.). Conversely, some of last century's conservatism is this century's radicalism... ScepticWombat (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
My point is that while it's true that once a radical's ideas become accepted, the people that hold those ideas are "conservative", there are so many radical ideas that did not become accepted. The "society was wrong before" argument is almost identical to the Science was wrong before argument; just because society/science is wrong is not evidence whatsoever that your idea is right. CorruptUser (talk) 17:28, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
It's worth pointing out that people with non-centrist political identities don't tend to get much more conservative as they age. "Center-left" people tend to reach middle age as "Center-right", perhaps by this very process you describe, but solidly left people are frequently solidly left as adults.<ref>I can't actually remember where I read this study :(</ref> ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
I've found myself drifting "leftward" as I age, but this may be the result of me being fairly strongly libertarian as a young adult. Things just look more complicated to me than they did then. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 20:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
That sounds like me! Young me: "People known what they need more than anyone else does. No one should be able to decide for you what is best for you, and it isn't fair to be forced to 'purchase' goods and services you don't need via taxes and public services. Just let people do as much as they want without forcing them, and that will result in a better society". Current me: "Most people are fucking morons, but they are too stupid to realize this. Myself included; young me was an idiot. We need some basic protections, and rules to protect us from the worst of the idiots. At the same time, government programs when run right can actually provide certain services for far cheaper and more efficiently than the private sector can." CorruptUser (talk) 20:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
I think that the horseshoe theory is only horseshit when is when people use it to invoke the balance fallacy. There are legitimate uses for horseshoe theory, such as pointing out that in real life politics are a lot more complex than left vs. right, and whether someone is left-wing or right-wing can often vary depending on whether you're talking social issues or economic issues. For example, if an anti-feminist, white supremacist homophobe is in favor of executing gay people, barring women from jobs and politics, and exiling black people, yet wants free health care for everyone and to reduce greenhouse gas production, are they left-wing or are they right-wing? —ShapeshiftingLizard ~▲~ hear me roar ~▲~ 22:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
That's a rather unlikely combination, but if you can't decide whether they're left or right, they don't fit very well into the horseshoe theory, which still differentiates between the two. If the point you want to make is "in real life politics are a lot more complex than left vs. right, and whether someone is left-wing or right-wing can often vary depending on whether you're talking social issues or economic issues", this is better reflected in the Nolan Chart or Political Compass than in the horseshoe. ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:41, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
There are some interesting convergences, like TERFs and fundamentalists on trans issues. But a lot of the time it seems like Broderism to me. Let's take a dramatic example. Horseshoe theory, in the context of the 19th c., basically puts abolitionists and the most viciously racist slaveholders on the same moral plane. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:42, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
My main problem with the horseshoe theory is it treats political identities in a completely 1 dimensional sense. I think a plane that represents economic and authority issues on two separate axis is a more (but still not entirely) accurate representation of all possible political identities that people can hold. Perhaps it is true that most major politicians and world leaders fall somewhere on that horseshoe, but I don't think that is true of most individuals. With all of that I must say I am intrigued by that notion that the horseshoe is used not as a model of all possible political identities but a spectrum of beliefs held by certain groups on the same issues. Samstr (talk) 14:12, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Tumbleweeds

So I show up and see "Rationality and tumbleweeds" on the {{holydaze}} banner, and in a way I think someone had a point: rationality and tumbleweeds. No, they are by not by any means anathema to rationality, but how much good do they do? Are they really that funny? WalkerWalkerWalker 20:47, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

The proper response to complaints about tumbleweeds:
Tumbleweed.gif
141.134.75.236 (talk) 20:53, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
We have a template for that. Crickets.
Two tumbleweeds rolling across the screen, from left to right.
Hmm CorruptUser (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Yup, and it looks like there's an unnecessary carriage return in it. (You can edit the template if you want.) 141.134.75.236 (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

I've always hated the tumbleweeds, along with strikethrough text & mystery meat links. They're all lazy stand-ins for humour which aren't actually funny or clever but are widely used as if they are, and contribute to articles looking dumb & sometimes incoherent. WéáśéĺóíďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:22, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

[EC]

I'm of two minds on the tumbleweeds pages.

[1]: They are useless pages. They have no information, they make no points, and people who disagree with them will not have their minds changed (Think the list of tests of homeopathy -- any good homeopathy supporter will know one or two they think fit, and yet the page does nothing to debunk them, letting the supporter think their tests were valid.), even if that's not likely for most pages.

[2]: They are popular pages. They're often linked from external references, because they're funny enough to make a tiny, tiny point -- look, there are no studies that support homeopathy! Ha. (Clicks back arrow, goes back to reading reddit.) And a few people do stay and read other articles, which expands RW's reach.

I dunno which is more important. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 22:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

[1], obviously. If we wanted to attract more idle clicks, we'd do a lot more meme-related content, which would be dumb but most of it would probably be more entertaining & popular than tumbleweeds. People insist on keeping those pages because they've been around so long & get a few clicks, but if they were a new creation I doubt they'd stand for long without being deleted or moved to fun/essay/user space. WẽãšẽĩõĩďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:46, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
They are indeed ridiculously popular, suggesting the joke is far from played out in the wider world. We probably don't need more, though. But it serves as a useful local meme, e.g. on Freeman on the land. So I wouldn't actually remove them - David Gerard (talk) 16:33, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
The ones that are in proper articles, such as freeman on the land, might do better to be replaced with a statement of nonexistence and a description of why things supporters/proponents of x/dissenters from y would want to list there really don't at all belong there. For example, freemen on the land might count cases of law enforcement deciding discretion is the better part of valor as successes; a description of why they aren't really would be beneficial. But that's just my take of course. Also, sorry for the belatedness; I've been rather busy of late. WalkerWalkerWalker 17:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, let me clarify: I said "might do better..." when I meant "would probably/typically do better in terms of being informational but invariably worse in terms of being amusing..." WalkerWalkerWalker 18:41, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

And actually let me also float an idea by example: suppose you were making a list of Gamergate successes in re their "stated" goals (ethics in gaming journalism bla bla). You would of course be inclined to tumbleweed it up, for obvious reasons, but if you placed after that (and I'm saying directly after that, not (just) elsewhere on the page either together or in bits and pieces) a subheading that read "Claimed successes" or similar and took their claimed successes (any slightly changed or newly published ethics guideline in the past seven years, basically) apart and showed the faults in calling them successes, then would in my mind make the argument tighter, cleaner, and more persuasive. WalkerWalkerWalker 18:41, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] New Meme Proposal

Me. I am a meme. And why am I worried about cluttering up the Saloon bar with self-centered jokes? This is a most three lines on a reasonable resolution. Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 20:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

How about Milhouse? WěǎšěǐǒǐďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Why not Zoidberg? --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 21:09, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Milhouse is already my fallback. Zoidberg was for a limited time only. Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 21:44, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
I have reported you all to the Florida Department of Agriculture and Customer Services for insufficient dankness in your memes. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ Star of David.png Open your heart, it's gonna be alright 04:50, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] genocide in south africa?

Moved to Forum:Mr 74 said something — Unsigned, by: David Gerard / talk / contribs 14:46, 24 May 2015‎ (UTC)

[edit] Would whoever runs User:Pibot please stand up?

You are needed on User talk:Pibot or RationalWiki:Technical support, whichever you choose.--ZooGuard (talk) 11:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

It's Pi innit? Scream!! (talk) 15:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
It was Π, but the last time I asked, they said they have no server access, which I took as "it's no longer run by me".--ZooGuard (talk) 18:42, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] For Memorial Day.....

In honor of Memorial Day weekend, I give you this passage by science fiction author Robert J. Sawyer. Interesting food for thought. Gak92 (talk) 18:21, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] "Why is RationalWiki full of feminazis and SJWs now?"

Or, "An Exercise in Loaded Questions". FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 19:53, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

If I had an account I'd post "RationalWiki is sponsored by Third Reich Feminazism and the famous Social Justice Warrior extremism unit, 'The A-Team.'" or some-such. Can somebody get that for me? Narky SawtoothNarky.png (Floof!~) 23:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm surprised the conservative user name troll hasn't done it already. But then he's quieter these days. BicyclewheelModerator 23:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Please, delete my RationalWiki account.

Please, delete my pages and my RationalWiki account: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:LeandroTelesRocha

Thanks a lot. LeandroTelesRocha (talk) 01:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

We do not as a rule delete user talk pages. You are free to archive them, but we save them in order to keep a complete archival record of the project. Bear in mind that every word you wrote for us, you did so under the terms of use, and those words belong to us now. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 01:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Next time, think before acting like an antisemite. --Miekal 02:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
In addition to the above, MediaWiki (the software running RW) does not allow the deletion of user accounts.--ZooGuard (talk) 19:14, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
It does allow renaming. I think we have the relevant whatever installed, Nutty Roux used it on his own account of that name ... - David Gerard (talk) 21:53, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Yeah hadn't thought of that -- any Moderator (and prolly Tech) can rename the account. Why not go ahead and call it something less personal. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 22:03, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
It's Special:Renameuser. I've renamed the account and moved the user pages - David Gerard (talk) 22:09, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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