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We would like to contribute to the page and make it as fair as possible and clarify the incorrect information. Should we make changes directly or send them to you Trent?  {{unsigned|124.148.38.30|06:19, 11 August 2010}}
 
We would like to contribute to the page and make it as fair as possible and clarify the incorrect information. Should we make changes directly or send them to you Trent?  {{unsigned|124.148.38.30|06:19, 11 August 2010}}
 
:Can you provide evidence on ''this'' talkpage that backs up your claims, before you edit the article? [[Special:Contributions/24.118.247.165|24.118.247.165]] ([[User talk:24.118.247.165|talk]]) 06:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:Can you provide evidence on ''this'' talkpage that backs up your claims, before you edit the article? [[Special:Contributions/24.118.247.165|24.118.247.165]] ([[User talk:24.118.247.165|talk]]) 06:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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::To Dynamiclear: I was the original author, and for the record, I do not work for your competitors or even for a company providing medical treatments of any kind. I stumbled on your site as I myself am a sufferer of coldsores and after looking over all the details I decided to write this article. At Rationalwiki we pride ourselves on being accurate and therefore if you have evidence to discredit any of the claims in the article then please specify it on this talk page for discussion and we will decide whether or not to remove the associated claims.
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::P.S. You claim your product is approved by the TGA. Do they actually test efficacy of a product or simply the safety of the ingredients? If the former then please scan and post any correspondence from them showing the results of their efficacy testing. If the latter then it means nothing, as I could just as easily market parsley tablets as a cure for insomnia and claim it is TGA / FDA approved. {{User:Crundy/Sig|}} 20:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
  
 
== Morphing web pages ==
 
== Morphing web pages ==

Revision as of 20:03, 11 August 2010

This company e-mailed me complaining of "slander" and describing the article as being written by their "competitors." The article seems fine to me, and well sourced, but I have directed them to give me specifics or post them here. In the mean time, might be worthwhile to work on this article as it seems to be having an effect. tmtoulouse 18:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Should we get a maintenence category or some sort of flag for this type of thing? Scarlet A.pngtheist 18:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Clearly they have made an error in emailing you. It's offensive to think that this sight contains any slander at all! After all, slander is spoken; in print, its libel. On the other hand, I'm curious to hear their claims. SardonicMouse (talk) 18:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
(EC)All looks fine to me Trent. Let's see what specifics they give you, although it's likely they'll just reply "you can't say our scam product is crap!" PS. Isn't it libel if it's in written form? DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 18:19, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Hence the quotes, I e-mailed them back and included a brief tutorial on libel versus slander. 7/10 times I don't hear back after the first complaint. But we shall see. tmtoulouse 18:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Emailing back to request specifics usually scares them off, although if you remember the recent case with Quackwatch, that doesn't stop them because they just still shout and scream. If they can generate specifics, I'd be very, very impressed. Scarlet A.pngtheist 18:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Trent, can you share such email exchanges with the community? I enjoy reading how people try to censor with vague legal threats, but end up looking stupid! DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 18:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Got an email about this talk page. Quick message: regarding the article being written by their competitors, you might want to point out that the author of the article is a software developer working in the health and safety industry who suffers from coldsores and can spot bullshit a mile off. That is all. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 20:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Their competition is rational thought and science. So their competitors would be people who don't like health woo. So yes, it was written by their competitors - David Gerard (talk) 00:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Proofready issues...

One, there are a lot of words here that would not normally be capitalized (Bioflavonoids, say). Are they capitalized in the source? If so, we should use quotation marks for clarity.

Two, do they call it "sulphur"? Ah, no, they don't. In the US it's "sulfur". I go fix now. ħumanUser talk:Human 20:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Sulfur has been the IUPAC standard since the mid nineties. It's still used by guys who prefer the nuanced complexities of the fact that "ph" is pronounced "f", but generally it's all sulfur these days. Scarlet A.pngtheist 22:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Trent and People, the reason why we thought the page was written by a competitor of our is because the page seems to be written in the format of trying to find issues with our product and was built from there, it does not look objective. Also we have come across a couple of sites that had similar content and was written by a competitor of ours. Can I ask what other pages the author of this page has created?

Our product is not "woo", we have been in business for 13 years and have completed clinical studies which were accepted by the Therapeutic Good Association (which is the Australian equivalent of the FDA). A version of Dynamiclear is available in Australian pharmacies and used by Australian doctors and health care professionals.

We would like to contribute to the page and make it as fair as possible and clarify the incorrect information. Should we make changes directly or send them to you Trent? — Unsigned, by: 124.148.38.30 / talk / contribs 06:19, 11 August 2010

Can you provide evidence on this talkpage that backs up your claims, before you edit the article? 24.118.247.165 (talk) 06:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
To Dynamiclear: I was the original author, and for the record, I do not work for your competitors or even for a company providing medical treatments of any kind. I stumbled on your site as I myself am a sufferer of coldsores and after looking over all the details I decided to write this article. At Rationalwiki we pride ourselves on being accurate and therefore if you have evidence to discredit any of the claims in the article then please specify it on this talk page for discussion and we will decide whether or not to remove the associated claims.
P.S. You claim your product is approved by the TGA. Do they actually test efficacy of a product or simply the safety of the ingredients? If the former then please scan and post any correspondence from them showing the results of their efficacy testing. If the latter then it means nothing, as I could just as easily market parsley tablets as a cure for insomnia and claim it is TGA / FDA approved. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 20:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Morphing web pages

I suggest this article needs the attention of our good friend User:Capturebot2. Hint: if you need a different URL for a page that keeps the same name, add the date as a fake anchor, e.g. http://example.woo/bollocks.html#2010-08-06 or similar.

This should probably be done right away, the Wayback Machine does switch off access to pages if asked by the right incantations. - David Gerard (talk) 00:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Captured. tmtoulouse 00:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)