Information icon.svg Check out RationalWiki's new Discord server here.

Baba Vanga

From RationalWiki
Jump to: navigation, search
Baba Vanga
Putting the psycho in
Parapsychology
Icon psychic.svg
Men who stare at goats
By the powers of tinfoil
Some dare call it
Conspiracy
Icon conspiracy.svg
What THEY don't want
you to know!
Sheeple wakers

Vangeliya Pandeva Dimitrova (1911—1996) (Вангелия Пандева Димитрова), known after her marriage as Vangelia Gushterova (Вангелия Гущерова), and known to skeptics as Grandmother Vanga (баба Ванга), was a 20th-century clairvoyant who is allegedly best known for making astonishingly accurate predictions about world events and the future. She was born in the Macedonian part of the Ottoman Empire, and died in Bulgaria. She was very right-wing, authoritarian, reactionary, xenophobic, and really is a rabid racist.[1]

Right-wingers have used Baba Vanga and other prophets to foresee their future.

Predictions[edit]

Numerous sources claim that she foretold many events that are open to interpretation, such as the sinking of the Kursk submarine, the rise of ISIS, Brexit, Donald Trump, the failure of Fobos-Grunt and others. On the other hand, Bulgarian sources say that the people who were close to her claim that she never prophesied about Kursk or other subjects circulating the Internet, and that many of the myths about Vanga are simply not true as they were fabricated and twisted, which ultimately hurts and crudely misrepresents her and her work as with Edgar Cayce and Nostradamus.[2][3] Plus, due to her racist nature, she had gone to the trouble of announcing the predictions and overlooked their outcome. Furthermore, psychic stuff is of course mostly nonsense, and Baba Vanga did once wrongly suggest anything would happen in the future, but the thing with prophecies is they have a funny way of coming true. The obvious manifestations are the only way that determines whether the prophecies coming true before our own eyes, but sometimes, its fulfillment is hidden in plain sight and it is easy to miss it.

The problem is, however, that it's difficult to determine the origin of these accurate predictions, where Vanga made them, or even if she made them at all. It's possible that Vanga spoke or wrote down her prophecies in her Bulgarian language, and they've never been credibly translated into English. But, a more likely source for all these predictions credited to her name: Russian social media and "conspiracy theory websites".[4]

Like Nostradamus and Cayce before her, the things she foretold are so vague they can be twisted and faked to match any notable event, usually after it's happened. Since then, she is pop culture's go-to psychic.

9/11[edit]

See the main article on this topic: 9/11

In 1989, it is said that Vanga made the prediction about the American brethren falling after being attacked by what was being described as "steel birds", causing the wolves and innocent blood to be howling in a bush and gushing, respectively. The "brethren" was referred to as the WTC Towers, while the "steel birds" were described as planes piloted by terrorists into the said towers. The "bush" obviously relates to the surname of the 43rd U.S. president at that time.

It is for this prediction that Vanga made headlines in the media, namely tabloids and conspiracy theorist websites.

Barack Obama[edit]

See the main article on this topic: Barack Obama
Everyone will put their hopes in him to end it, but the opposite will happen; he will bring the country down and conflicts between north and south states will escalate.
—Vanga said about Obama's presidency

This is a peculiar prediction that is said to be made by Vanga before her death. She prophesied that the 44th US president would be black, a prediction that came true when Barack Obama was elected in 2008 and re-elected four years later.

She stated that Obama would be the last acting US President, and went on, saying that at the time of his stepping into office, there would be a spectacular economic crisis, and that he would bring the country down in an attempt to end that crisis and escalate conflicts between the north and south states. As DobryachOk and others wrote, America would experience problems and have frozen up or go down in the economy.

According to her, the successor of Obama would have a messianic personality, which could lead to destruction, under the pretext of being a supposed "Peacemaker" who would, in her own words, sign the lasting peace.

When Donald Trump was elected and sworn in, it seemed her prophecy has failed, but was coming true. Obama's work has indeed led to the division of the country. Obama wasn't clearly the last US President, but the anti-American and authoritarian tendencies of Donald Trump made it so at least, even making him the opposite of the prophesied peacemaker that helps Russia achieve world peace, as explained in her predictions about Russia.

This prophecy was being twisted to make them true in respect to Trump, like many other prophecies. Even after her death, it was mentioned by a Vice reporter that she claimed through another clairvoyant, Madame Vanya, good news for Trump, including putting America into the right path and serving two terms.[1] This is notable when this vague prediction is being twisted to make it look like as if the prophetess predicted Donald Trump's win and swearing in, succeeding the last US President, in the guise of bad news predicted.

Brexit[edit]

See the main article on this topic: Brexit

According to fake news, it is said that Baba Vanga foretold of Brexit, as she said that Europe will cease in 2016 or later.

Climate change[edit]

Everything will melt, just like ice

She predicted climate change in the 1950s.

A cure for cancer[edit]

A day will come and cancer will be chained in iron! A cure, which shall cure people from this illness, must contain the iron, because this element is decreasing in the human organism.
—Vanga said in 1994

Vanga foretold that cancer would be chained in iron, thanks to a cure containing the iron, because the human organism is depleting the iron element quickly.

Disasters, changing mentalities and faith divisions[edit]

Fobos-Grunt among them predicted by Baba Vanga
Numerous catastrophes and disasters will shake the world. The mentality of the people will change. They will be divided by their faith…
—Vanga said in unknown times

Bad times have arrived as our time is rife with catastrophes and disasters, like the 2004 Tsunami, Hurricane Katrina, 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster, the failure of Russia's Fobos-Grunt mission, Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma, and Hurricane Maria to name a few. Something is happening to the mentality of the people, which led to the Phobosgate and Gamergate controversies, and overall right-wing populism.

This is one of the most vague prediction made by Baba Vanga, and as such, it is open-ended. It can refer to any disaster that happen after the time this prediction is made.

Russia[edit]

All will thaw, as if ice, only one remain untouched - Vladimir's glory, glory of Russia. Too much it is brought in a victim. Nobody can stop Russia. All will be removed by her from the way and not only will be kept, but also becomes the lord of the world.
—Vanga said to a writer named Valentin Sidorov[5]
Everything will melt away like ice yet the glory of Vladimir, the glory of Russia are the only things that will remain. Russia will not only survive, it will dominate the world.
—Vanga said in 1979[6][7]

Vanga is claimed to have made one of her most popular predictions about Russia in 1979 and its growing authoritarianism. It remains to be seen which Vladimir Vanga referred to. There are three real candidates: The Prince Vladimir, Vladimir Lenin, or Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Zhirinovsky of the LDPR has been ruled out.

In regards to the 2016 US election hacking, this prophecy seems realized, but the nations of the world has yet to cease to exist unless an apocalypse happens, whether made by Trump or Putin.

Two scenarios can either happen:

  • A global flood that causes all countries but Mother Russia itself to disappear, drowning their population; and
  • A global crisp nuclear wasteland.

The first one had been predicted by Edgar Cayce, the American prophet who predicted the future role of Russia. The second one was revealed a message similar to Vanga by Encyclopedia Dramatica on an article about Putin.

His ultimate surprise party (spoiler alert!) for the world involves more than 2000 ICBMs, more than 50,000 megatons of thermonuclear detonations, American fagottry/hesitation leaving Mother Russia intact and North America a crisp radioactive wasteland inhabited with cannibalistic S&M and shemale biker gangs.
—An ED article but crossed, maybe knows?

It has been noted that the phrase in the prophetess' prediction "Everything will melt away like ice" is something that has already been warned about by many, including SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, and physicist Stephen Hawking, to name a few.

Money ruling the world[edit]

Until money rule the world, there won’t be any progress on Earth.
—Vanga said at an unspecified time[8]

Vanga foretold that there would never be any progress on Earth, whether scientific or technological, until the time that money rules the world, which means that a kleptocracy could rule the world, possibly from Russia.

See also[edit]

External links[edit]

References[edit]