Talk:Liberal bias

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I have noticed that this wiki treats FOX as having a conservative bias, and attacking it for doing so, while defending the remainder of the media against any accusation of liberal bias. I would expect that both sides are biased. We seem to have a problem with a logical fallacy along the lines of "most media is less conservative than FOX, thus FOX is super-conservative and everyone else is perfectly in the middle." Zau (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I think most people are quite critical of MSNBC and HuffPo for being liberal. The difference being that they're usually open about it, whereas Fox is the only one with the audacity to claim it's fair and balanced. The bias tropes associated with more liberal media are slightly different to the likes of WND and Fox. Link=User:Armondikov...I'll crystallize your blow-up doll! 23:18, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] On RW

Perhaps it might be worth adding a (reasonably tongue-in-cheek) passage about liberal bias on RW? I've noticed most articles here tend to have a pretty obvious liberal slant (just compare the pages for "conservative" and "liberal"). — Unsigned, by: 173.61.173.160 / talk / contribs 2012-07-09T08:22:58

"But I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki!" Drink!. Bad Faith (talk) 08:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I don't think that's really a "RATIONAL Wiki" moment. The liberal bias is mostly acknowledged, and there's no assertion that such a bias is "not rational". Scarlet A.pngpostate 21:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
It might be because if they had a conservative slant, they would happen to just be factually wrong. Not all conservative ideas are bad or wrong, of course, but on many hot button topics, the plain old facts without any alteration or later interpretation happen to not look very much at all like mainstream conservative talking points. Not!Conservative doesn't equal Liberal; they aren't opposites. ±Knightoftldrsig.pngKnightOfTL;DRlongissimus non legeri 12:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
The liberal bias of the editorship has been noted, and I think mostly isn't denied. But it's a bias of the population, not a requirement nor editorial stance. But, as they say, reality has a well-known liberal bias, so this explains things a lot more. If you have conservative pundits making shit up about "Death Panels" and questioning Barack Obama's legitimacy as the President of the United States, then what stance would you expect us all to take? Scarlet A.pngd hominem 15:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
There's a self-referential para on the Groupthink article (she said, spamming one of her own articles again). Sophiebecause liberals 21:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Original commenter here. I didn't realize at the time I wrote that that RW's original purpose was to serve as a troll counterpart to Conservapedia, in which context the ubiquity of aggressive potshots at conservatives make a lot more sense. For what it's worth I consider myself a moderate conservative, and I view RW as a great resource for info and frank opinions on science and some philosophy-related issues; it's just that the explicitly political topics are a lot more one-sided (yes, there's still plenty of interpretation going on). But, again, knowing the site's "mission" and overall demographic (moderate liberal, atheist, pro-science, empiricist/materialist, predominantly American, very anti-Conservapedia) this makes a lot more sense. In that light it would seem unreasonable to ask to compromise the slant that's a part of the site's very identity, especially not when it's acknowledged outright on the site. So, carry on I suppose. 74.8.91.126 (talk) 09:42, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the "predominantly American" bit. I think we're aiming for a more international (or at least "internationalized") audience.--Spud (talk) 10:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
It's English-speaking, that's for sure. So if it looks like focusing on predominantly UK and US issues mentioned, then well duh - also, emphasis on "original purpose". Scarlet A.pngbominationModerator 15:19, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

[edit] some name-dropping

Penn and Teller (partners of the Koch brothers) might take issue with your assertion that "reality as a liberal bias." JRCHReason (talk) 23:36, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
And then again, they might recognize the Stephen Colbert quote, and take it for what it is. I've taken the liberty of moving your comment out from under Armondikov's nearly two-year-old remark, and into its own sub-heading. Re-title it if you like, and welcome! Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 23:45, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
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