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[edit] Rational Wiki, not so rational

This Wiki is just another incarnation of being submissive to politically created science that suits interests with no acknowledgement of independent thought. There are many examples on this site that demonstrate the lack of real scepticism and only focuses on superficiality without going into important or controversial details. In this case, the scepticism on this site is related more to a kind of pseudo-scepticism that is obedient to mainstream political science and manifests itself as a cult, or semi-religion where outside opinions are dismissed per definition. I suggest you should shut down this site and do something that is appropriate to your talents, like bowing your head to your boss or something.--85.180.184.50 (talk) 17:07, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Don't feed the concern troll, either--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 17:23, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for proving my point, so that other people here can see it.--92.226.29.215 (talk) 14:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Your point is that you are a troll? I agree, that point was proven well. — Unsigned, by: EmeraldCityWanderer / talk / contribs 15:24, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
We are 'allowed to be amused' on RationalWiki; and are skeptical about pseuds. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 14:57, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Complains about superficiality of treatment, which might not be wrong... but does so without any specifics given. Truly a masterpiece. WalkerWalkerWalker 16:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Don't worry

... it is exactly a month till the sales begin.

Is it time for a new archive yet? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:22, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Who knows? Not Pibot! WalkerWalkerWalker 16:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Semitism and Islamophilia

You know I used to consider RationalWiki a bastion of the anti-Authoritarian Left but more and more I'm getting the impression that that very phrase is becoming a contradiction in terms. Maybe the death of possibly the last anti-Authoritarian Leftist intellectual Christopher Hitchens has something to do with it. Being on the Libertarian, anti-Theocratic right, I've always admired RationalWiki for being an anti-religious, anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-homophobia, pro-free-speech and well, rational website, covering things in a Left-leaning but honest and largely non-partisan manner. Those days are of course gone. Like most individuals on the Left, this site has become so obsessed with the state of Israel and its apparently recalcitrant, insolent refusal to be bombed out of existence by religious savages and has become so devoted to protecting the sensibilities of said Islamic savages, that it has sunk to Conservapedian depths of hypocrisy and ignorance. To whit:

The article on Muhammad (y'know, the sex-crazed, child-marrying, woman-hating, mass-murdering bandit whom 40% of the world look up to as a beacon of light and inspiration) has been rightly added to the category "Batshit crazy" multiple times, each time removed without explanation. Has the controversial writer Ayn Rand been removed from this category? Erm, no. So after I was reverted for adding him to the category for the umpteenth time, on the tenth of October 2015, I added Jesus to the category. Jesus as in Jesus of Nazareth, the rather quirky guy who thought he was the son of God and went around talking shit about love and peace and what-have-you. Jesus of Nazareth remained in this category for the following eight days. On the eighteenth day of October, no, he didn't rise again but I did add Muhammad to the category, pointing out that Jesus was in it. Muhammad was removed within two minutes by some meddling IP who immediately removed Jesus from the category upon realising that if he could be added to the category, then by the same logic, Muhammad could be placed in it too. Showing that I was no hypocrite, I proceeded to add Moses, L. Ron Hubbard and Buddha to the category in question. Following in the Muhammad-defending pattern of reasoning, this pugnacious IP removed both Moses and Buddha respectively from the category although I was pleased to see that he at least had the sense to leave L. Ron Hubbard in it. But why have Hubbard in it and not by the same token, Jesus, Moses, Buddha and Muhammad? Don't tell me you wouldn't have left the other three in it had Muhammad not been added! Are you afraid of getting your heads cut off or are you so politically correct that you consider Islam and Muslims above the same criticism as Christians and Jews? On the subject of Jews, I made some edits to the unbelievably squalid, slanderous and disgusting article on Benjamin Netanyahu. Non-partisan edits that didn't remove any criticisms of him but which cast the article in a fairer and more balanced manner, not wanting to tread on the toes of any Palestinian-supporters and which pointed out some of the crimes committed by Palestinians that were the cause of his retaliatory actions, whether or not you agree that his actions were the correct form of response. For instance, the article on Netanyahu to date, contains no mention of the Israeli teenagers who were slaughtered by three Hamas agents on the twelfth of June. It does however condemn Netanyahu's proposed demilitarization of the entire so-called "state" in the wake of the atrocity without mentioning his reasoning behind it. Apparently for Israel or America to be fully demilitarised is a-okay but Palestine? Fuck no! My edits were reverted, including the bit about the dead Israeli teenagers and I was told that mentioning facts in favour of a person was what's called a "balance fallacy". I am aware that Leftists have a habit of labeling any argument they disagree with as a "fallacy" so I don't suppose it's remotely surprising that "fairness" is now a fallacy. After all, according to Leftist intellectuals (if you believe in oxymorons) reason is a white male construct of oppression. http://www.dailystormer.com/sjw-professor-says-reason-itself-is-a-white-christian-male-construct-of-oppression/
The article on Netanyahu also accuses him of "fear-mongering" by saying that Iran was developing a nuclear arsenal, while in the very next section, it states that Iran are developing a nuclear arsenal and condemns him for daring to criticise the Obama Administration for assisting them. A historian would be fascinated by watching the narrative shift in the article as we go from having always been at war with Eastasia to having always been at Eurasia. I made a satirical edit the page which was only partly reverted, leaving in a bit I added that said that Obama was "quite rightly" engaging in secret negotiations with Iran to help them in their nuclear aspirations, whilst also repudiating Netanyahu for "spying" on these negotiations. Apparently when Obama engages in espionage and subterfuge it's fine but when an Israeli does it, bloody murder!
Further testing my hypothesis that RationalWiki users, like most lefties, were a bunch of antisemitic, Islam-loving, hypocritical nutjobs, I added the category "Jews" to the category "Insufferable assholes" on the sixth of December where it remained for a following two days. On the eighth of December, I added "Muslims" to the category and surprise of surprises, it was removed within twenty five minutes, Jews also being removed as an afterthought.
You know, a lot of my satirical troll edits were made in the hope that they would be reverted because I simply couldn't allow myself to believe that people could be so malicious, ignorant and sorry to keep using the word but, hypocritical. But you know what, like changes I've made to articles on Communpedia and Conservapedia, many of the ones I've made to the article on Netanyahu on this website have actually been kept! It's just about three of the more vituperative sentences I added that have been removed and like The Guardian it seems as though you only removed those to preserve your reputation, not because you disagreed with them; as though like Syme in 1984 I was inadvertently giving the game away with brutal honesty. Like my response to an unbelievably bigoted series of comments on my talkpage, I've been putting this ... long-winded diatribe off for months and I've intermittently made a few edits to non-conspicuous pages but I expect I'll be subsequently de-sysoped and permanently blocked for this comment but really, don't you think it's time you took a look at yourselves? This website was founded to be an antithesis to the lies and partisan obscurantism of Conservapedia who can at least lay claim to not being anti-Semitic or racist, in spite of their many flaws. You ridicule them as do we all but like many critics of Bush you've actually become more ridiculous that the socially accepted target of your scorn!
He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Beyond Good and Evil, Friedrich Nietzsche

--Let Them Eat Cake (talk) 21:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, they clamor for people, who'd happily rip their heads off given the chance.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 05:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
I frequently happily rip my. WëäŝëïöïďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 07:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
cool Daily Stormer link, bro --Ymir (talk) 12:54, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Fuck me, you used a lot of words to say cock all of any intellectual value. "Further testing my hypothesis that RationalWiki users, like most lefties, were a bunch of antisemitic, Islam-loving, hypocritical nutjobs, I added the category "Jews" to the category "Insufferable assholes" on the sixth of December where it remained for a following two days. On the eight of December, I added "Muslims" to the category and surprise of surprises, it was removed within twenty five minutes, Jews also being removed as an afterthought." Congratulations on failing Statistics 101. Queexchthonic murmurings 13:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
And on failing to understand how basic wiki things like Recent Changes & user watchlists work. Well done on the time travel, though. I'll watch out for that 8th of December edit tomorrow. WěǎšěǐǒǐďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I got some of the dates wrong. Points still stand. --Let Them Eat Cake (talk) 20:51, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
November I meant, not December. --Let Them Eat Cake (talk) 20:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
They fall over rather than stand, because they're garbage. Queexchthonic murmurings 20:53, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
This is boring and hollow like eating cardboard. SolPyre (talk) 21:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
A website with 'stormer' in its URL is automatically suspect - and what do you mean by 'being at Eurasia' (at least get your quotes right).

And which version of 'lefty' are you using? US flavor? 'First, Second, Third, Three and a half, Fourth', Jeremy Corbyn, Arthur Scargill, Gang of Four (either version), International Brigade...? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

While I appreciate the site not succumbing to islamaphobia, I do feel Islam is treated a lot less harshly and with much less snark than Cristianity. Madattak (talk) 23:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Its hard to do as probably most of us come from Christianity more than anything. Zero (talk - contributions) 04:41, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

[edit] The fundraising banner

... is somewhat less intrusive than 'the source of all (mis)information' which occupies half the page unless you sign in. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 17:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

It seems stuck - or is it? 109.150.11.154 (talk) 23:01, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

It's manually updated by editing MediaWiki:Sitenotice (see the history), so maybe Trent just didn't have the time (with the holidays and all). Carpetsmoker (talk) 23:15, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Still not updated. (Delays due to switch to Julian calendar?) 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:49, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
This is related to problems with the server cache. Probably the same as this (it's only outdated on squid2, squid1 is fine). Carpetsmoker (talk) 18:53, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Happy equinox

...everybody (unless you are watching repeats of a certain TV series which ended on this day). 82.44.143.26 (talk) 17:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

equinox was three months ago. BicyclewheelToxic mowse.gif 17:22, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Solstice then (and anyone dancing skyclad round 'some stones'/a Christmas tree/other standing object of choice?) 82.44.143.26 (talk) 17:27, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
It's at 4:48 am tomorrow, so not me - too bloody cold! I'm only a fair weather pagan, which in Britain puts me at a disadvantage... BicyclewheelToxic mowse.gif 17:44, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Unless one has 'a cat with opinions' :)

The reference is to [1]. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

It will be Up Helly Aa before you know it. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 11:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Soon be Imbolc. BicyclewheelToxic mowse.gif 12:11, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
And it is just over a week to (Russian Orthodox) Christmas (if anyone wants a pub/office/other quiz 'trick' question). 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:29, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Merry Christmas tomorrow anyone. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 19:00, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Yep, tree's staying up here for Serbian Orthodox Christmas (the older girls' father was Serbian) - David Gerard (talk) 23:36, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Feasts, festivities, encouragement of arts and helpfulness to each other are among the positive aspects of religion. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 14:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed article: Alleged "Roman" sword found in Nova Scotia (#Swordgate)

Unless I simply entered the wrong search terms, I wasn't able to find an article about this topic yet. For more information, one can simply Google "Roman Sword Oak Island" or check out Andy White's repository page of blog posts, which serves an index. Jason Colavito is another blogger covering the issue.

The sword, allegedly found near a shipwreck off the coast of Nova Scotia and Oak Island, was identified as a relatively-modern reproduction by the only academic who's examined it thus far. Despite numerous lab tests and a sort of "crowd-sourced" study from an archaeologic point-of-view, headed by Andy White, the primary proponent of the sword's authenticity continues to claim it's the real thing. This person is J. Hutton Pulitzer, a layman treasure hunter who has a substantial following on Facebook and other social media.

There's just too much for me to explain in this post, so please check out the link to Andy White's blog for more info. I'm just trying to ascertain if an article on this subject would be warranted. I'd be willing to help write it, as well. I'm new here although I've been a casual Wikipedia editor for years. Let me know if there are any questions about the topic I can attempt to answer. I doubt this issue will ever make it to Wikipedia because of the simple fact that the sword is not an authentic artifact, yet I believe it's important to provide potential Google searchers with a few rational places to visit. Right now proponents of the theory are running wild with speculation and accusations of conspiracy from academia, the History Channel and anyone else who doesn't agree with them. Abrasax (talk) 12:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

It probably warrants a section in Oak Island Money Pit. I'm not sure how relevant it will be in the long run for a separate article.--ZooGuard (talk) 13:40, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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