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[edit] Fundraiser

This morning the fundraiser was at 71%. I made a small donation. This afternoon, it's at 70%. What did I do, aaaaaaah! Marasmusine (talk) 17:01, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

I think you're noticing a symptom of caching. Do a hard refresh and you should see a current version of the resource. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 17:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, it's back, good luck with the fundraiser! Marasmusine (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Did you donate in Bitcoin? Scarlet A.pnggnostic 09:25, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
I used Flanian Pobble Beads. Marasmusine (talk) 12:26, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Such much?

Depending upon the page the amount of funding varies widely $4995, $4275, assorted figures in between (plus change).

Confusing. (talk) 15:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Caching. When we update the main it may take a bit to transcend to all users. Zero (talk) 15:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
'Enlightening RW-ians' ignorance'
As the goal has now been reached, should the target figure be updated? (talk) 15:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
It has been updated (I've seen the updating edit), but the update isn't showing up for me for some reason... maybe it's just the caching again. Nullahnung (talk) 15:14, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Hit F5. Or maybe CTRL-F5. Sterilesig.svgtalk 22:41, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

(reset) Still $6k of $6k. (talk) 16:10, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Anybody seen this?

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/RationalWiki. I think it's pretty funny personally. --Let Them Eat Cake (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Goat Simulator

I think many of you would appreciate this: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/03/goat-simulator-preview-goat-of-the-year/. Goat! --Spaceman98 (talk) 22:23, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

More amusing is the story of how they decided that would be the company's next project. --Kels (talk) 00:00, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Minor snark

The logo should be Help us double last year#'#s record of $3500 - and in what base is 3500x2=6000? (talk) 15:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Uh, I think the line is an encouragement for donations to reach $7000, not a reflection on this year's goal. You're correct on the lack of an apostrophe though. - Grant (Talk) 16:03, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Your morning chuckle (rbutr)

I have the rbutr plug-in installed for Chrome. For those that don't know what it is, it is a plug-in designed for use by skeptics. It displays a pop-up message whenever you visit a page which has a rebuttal. I have already used it to great effect in dismantling an "Organic" gish gallop (home-grown bullshit), but I popped by the RationalWiki homepage today, and there was a pop-up that said there was nine rebuttals to the page.

Laughing, I opened up the list. I shall transcribe it for you.

Rational wiki - It Just Bugs Me! itjustbugsme.com/forums/discussion/5684/rational-wiki/p1

is this the best they got? - Anti-English / Anti-White racism and prejudice - Anglo-Saxon Foundation englisc-gateway.com/bbs/topic/26741-is-this-the-best-they-got/

Irrational Wiki -What?? | Emma the Emo's Emo Musings emmatheemo.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/irrational-wiki-what/

The Problem With Rational Wiki - Less Wrong lesswrong.com/lw/f5b/the_problem_with_rational_wiki/

RationalWiki Showing It’s Anything But Again | grey lining greylining.com/2012/12/15/rationalwiki-showing-its-anything-but-again/

RationalWiki - A Storehouse of Knowledge astorehouseofknowledge.info/w/RationalWiki

RationalWiki - Metapedia en.metapedia.org/wiki/RationalWiki

Islamo-Criticism: RationalWiki on the Irrationality of Islamophobia Watch islamo-criticism.blogspot.com/2012/03/rationalwiki-on-irrationality-of..

RationalWiki ridicules SCEPCOP in its entry on us : General Discussions debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=320

Anti-white rascism, neo-nazis, creationists, and "Islamophobes". Couldn't ask for better rebuttals!

I love RationalWiki. -Mackinz (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I take that sort of thing as an endorsement. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 15:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
That said, there are - evidently, by the above - many examples of RW being "criticised" (quote-marks intentional) but very few rave reviews that I can find. Does this say anything? Scarlet A.pngsshole 15:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Rbutr is for finding those that disagree with you enough to rebut your arguments. Of course there wouldn't be "rave" reviews on the list. They do exist, I'm sure, but not here.-Mackinz (talk) 15:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
No, I mean in general. I've engaged in casual self-googling since about 2008 for this and it's full of idiots going "wahhhh!!! RATIONALWIKI disagrees with me, why doe they call it RATIONA wiki?!!?!?" but relatively few positive reviews. Though we get a lot of passive traffic (as Trent calls it) which I suppose is just a more quiet but meaningful endorsement. Scarlet A.pngpostate 15:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Passive traffic means lurkers, yes? A fellow with legitimate doctoral expertise in neurology was visiting once, and saw the brain in brackets logo on my screen. "I love RationalWiki!" were pretty much his exact words. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 15:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
A trend that I've noticed might have something to do with RW not getting many rave reviews as opposed to complaints. I've noticed rationalwiki likes to talk negatively about a lot of things but rarely praises anything (the few that I've found I could probably count on my fingers: Atheism FAQ, a page about science, some essays, fanboy page about George Carlin, stuff like that).
Negativity breeds negativity while positivity tends to breed positivity (though there is a counter reaction in each case of course), so it should come as no surprise that the rave reviews are few and the complaints are many, because the same pattern appears on RW itself. Nullahnung (talk) 15:58, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, there is definitely that. Scarlet A.pngmoral 16:00, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I like to think of the wiki being used as a tacit endorsement. Sure, it's not a rave review, but this wiki is pretty often cited in the skeptic communities I am a part of. -Mackinz (talk) 16:06, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Try Icerocket, Armondikov. I check it about once a week, there's almost always someone being nice & someone being nasty. Scream!! (talk) 16:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Add also the classic link for looking for feedback. Use the search tools to limit the time to the last week or so. Unfortunately, doesn't catch everything.--ZooGuard (talk) 17:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed rbutrs "rbutls" of RationalWiki before and I am somewhat familiar with the service. I've considered writing a RW essay detailing why I think it sucks and posting it as a "rbutl" on their main page, but it will be too much work. :)
The interesting thing about those links is that most, if not all of them have been posted by the same user, and given they other contributions they seem to be doing some kind of "seeding" with controversial content - e.g. if the two sites A and B are opposed, they will add A as a rebuttal to B and vice versa. Chances are this is either someone involved in the service or a bizzarely dedicated troll individual.
If the browser plug-in allows you to post links, add a link to RationalWiki:Pissed at us - this will sum up most of the "rebuttals". :D --ZooGuard (talk) 17:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh, and their site allows you to see a site's "rebuttals" without using the plug-in: http://rbutr.com/rbutr/WebsiteServlet?requestType=showLinksByFromPage&fromPageId=1913615 --ZooGuard (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
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