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[edit] Baptist Ministries of Atlantic Canada

Baptist Ministries of Atlantic Canada is a website that endouvers to help independent Baptist of Atlantic Canada find one another. There common threat is a conservative doctrinal position and balanced attitudes. They are opposed to the KJV Only movement although many of them use the KJV. Some use the New International Version 1984 although almost with exception they oppose the New Internation Version 2011, which was done with a completely different philosophy. They do not hold to a succession of churches of anykind and beleive their only chain is to be chained to Scripture, not man made history.— Unsigned, by: Lesdennis / talk / contribs

Okay. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 18:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Ron Maimon

Hi guys, I think you should check out an internet personality called Ron Maimon. Just googleing his name is enough. He wrote huge walls of text on every thinkable physics/math/philosophy/religious/computerscience page on the internet. You can look for most of his stuff on Quora and all stackexchange sites, for example physics exchange, math exchange and so on, even on Wikipedia with a HUGE number of posts/answers. He got banned on all those sites, and every time it was a big deal. Maybe he deserves an article ? He is a bit similar to Lubos Motl, he also has no university position. Here is a taste of his personality: He was also a well known user on the usenet, which you can check by reading the Google archives. His texts are all over the internet, it's amazon how much he wrote on every possible science topic you can imagine. And he is also a bit crazy (science good, rest is bad just like Motl) since he believs in some conspiracy theories and he has the attitude that insulting people will help his cause. -- (talk) 22:27, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

We've been shying away from documenting barely notable internet personalities for accidental slander related reasons. If posting too much on the internet and getting banned for it is his only crime, it's probably off-mission. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 22:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
No we haven't been shying away from that. Post relevant material. Who cares if someone is barely notable if in your estimation they're on mission. Just don't defame them. RW is not defamatory or a hate site. Nutty Roux (talk) 14:05, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Defamation is a lot easier for people who aren't well-known to the public for a host of reasons. 1. Facts are harder to verify. 2. It's easier for them to make the case that rationalwiki is uniquely responsible for spreading false and hostile information. 3. Less editors have an active interest in the person and thus won't be monitoring the page. I don't disagree that if they're on mission, do it right, rather than don't do it all. But "posting on the internet and believing in conspiracies" to me, isn't a sufficient cause. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 16:49, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
I mean it's not like he doesn't get attention. For example he had a super long discussion with Geerard 't Hooft (noble price winner and physics legend) on physics exchange. Just look up some of his contributions on this site. But I understand that if he isn't notable, then you don't want an article.-- (talk) 22:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
This is not ED. But if you have some convincing reason to write about him, there's a to do page where you can list it. He'd have to be pretty amazingly dickish to be at Motl standard - David Gerard (talk) 15:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Frequent lurker here. Ron Maimon is a fascinating guy, and one of the few people with really cranky ideas who can sometimes admit that he's wrong. I'd love to see an article on him, and had been considering writing one myself - I think he's more notable and coverage of him is more on-mission than some of the obscure conspiracy theorists we have articles on. (talk) 17:08, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the starter of this topic. Ok good, but how should we start? He is literally all over the internet. Just do a Google search like this ,"science/philosophy topic" "Ron Maimon", and you get a text from him. Do you have any idea?-- (talk) 19:34, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
"Ron Maimon is a former Harvard physics grad student and frequent crank, notable for advocating cold fusion and false-flag conspiracy theories"? Talk about his prolific and often-helpful Stack Exchange posts mixed with cold fusion advocacy, maybe a bit on his time at Quora before he asked the site to ban him. (talk) 22:14, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Hm ok good. But I think we should focus more on the real theories he has. For example he has some theories about the consistency of set theory (measuable sets) and he also thinks that the work of Shakespear were written by some other guy, he claims something like a sigma 5 evidence for it or that logical positivism is the only philosophy in science and he knows A LOT about the history of physics because he read all the papers. Then also theories about biology and computerscience. Then several things about stringtheory and quantumfieldtheory which might be over might head. But I see what I can do. And of course also the absurd stuff he says.-- (talk) 17:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I made an account.--Nebukadnezar (talk) 20:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Fundraiser

Can some 'jiggery-pokery' be done - the text says half and the percentage is 2/3+.

And when the goal gets to 100+% change the banner to something appropriate. (talk) 16:56, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

The banner is cached. Purge your cache to see the current form.
Any suggestions for post-100%? αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 00:12, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Next day - the banner still says half way.

Somewhere between snark and pedant. (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Now 79% is half way - moving goal post or 'creative maths'
(or could it read 'over half'?) (talk) 18:53, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Where is the text? 3/4 might be less embarithessing. ħumanUser talk:Human 15:41, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

(Reset) Several days later and it is still 79%. Something stuck? (talk) 17:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

The green ribbon says 93%; the top text says half way.

One of the Evil Overlord's 5-year old advisers (there are several, to allow for maximum work regulations, schooling and relaxation/holiday time) says that the maths is bad even by 'mad scientist's project standards.' (talk) 15:56, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Will nobody donate the $2.69 to get it over last year's figure - it has been stuck for the last few days. (talk) 17:33, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Trent hasn't updated the number since 30 March. It's probably over the threshold by now.--ZooGuard (talk) 17:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

[edit] How "widespread" is it really?

"One of the most widespread beliefs that does not reflect reality is that the world is only a few thousand years old."

Just how "widespread" is this belief? I don't deny that there are some, maybe even a lot. But I don't think it's as "widespread" as many belief. I'm Christian and believe that God created the world, but I don't believe in Young Earth. Nearly everyone I've talked to does not believe in a YE. Frankly, I'm not sure I can remember anyone other then that one idiot who debated Bill Nye who professed to believe in a YE.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

40% of Americans, according to one recent poll. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 13:18, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Its been fairly constantly hovering around 40-45% of respondents since 1982, when Gallup started gauging creationist/evolution sentiment in the U.S. ScepticWombat (talk) 14:31, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
It will depend on location and who you choose to keep company with, as well. We live in a conservative state dominated by the religious-right of the creationist variety, and yet a friend grew up in a liberal church and was surprised when she learned just how crappy the rest of the state is.--Miekal 14:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, it speaks volumes of the human tendency towards tribalism and confirmation bias and reminds me of an anecdote about a (stereo)typical New York liberal complaining over Dubya's re-election in disbelief: "I don't know anyone who voted for him!" - which says more about the social circle of said New Yorker, than about Dubya or the election. ScepticWombat (talk) 15:13, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
That wasn't Dubya's election, that was a (misleading misquote) of Pauline Kael talking about Nixon's election. Her actual quote made the exact opposite point; in reality, she said "I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don't know. They're outside my ken. But sometimes when I'm in a theater I can feel them", which is the exact opposite of the smear it was turned into with that popular misquote (that is, in her actual quote, she specifically says that she knows her social circles are atypical; whereas pundits transformed it to make it sound like she was ignorant.) Not that it really changes your point, but I think it's annoying how misquotes like that keep circulating and getting repurposed and re-attributed every few years. --Aquillion (talk) 04:38, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Has Rational Wiki being usurped by Satanists?

Well I'm very much a man of science and have never denied evolution. However I feel many social topics especially towards conspiracy theories and alternative social policy viewpoints is extremely hateful in a ironically irrational way. Maybe somehow there is a bad presence on this site, not atheist, not Christian, but possibly occultic and maybe satan worshipping, I understand many here don't believe in any concept of religion, but I feel there is a religiously satanic sect operating here on a grand scale. You can believe in science and nature but you also are allowed to embrace unrelated concepts also. Being a scientist does not make you a bohemian grove baby killer. — Unsigned, by: Tyrasian / talk / contribs

Troll (talk) 21:35, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

'Being a scientists' requires a better use of grammar.

Do not confuse neutrality/general mocking (in the sense of the medieval monarch and lordly household's fool [1]) with a malign approach.

What is your opinion of David Icke/the Masons? (talk) 14:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Actually, it is not Satan but Titivillus who haunts RW (and various other wikis). (talk) 15:17, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Hail Satan. \m/ (I really hope that emoji makes it to Unicode 8.0 final.) -Soviet Hologram God (talk) 17:20, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

One can be a scientist/of a scientific intent and have a religious viewpoint ('it is ethical/religiously good to understand the universe and improve life/be ecologically minded' etc).

But is 'being a scientist/scientifically orientated' compatible with seeing Satan in the shadows of an organization? (talk) 16:21, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

And here is Titivillus himself [2]. (talk) 18:10, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

You're allowed to embrace unrelated concepts also but they have to be falsifiable. I'm putting what I originally said back on here. Thanks WellWell (talk) 06:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Hah. I knew who this was. By the way I wasn't lying about being gay. I'm not an idiot you know. Nor am I a Science major. I just know bullshit when I see it. WellWell (talk) 06:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

I assume this editor has been misled by all the references in favour of Satan which can be found on the site - and by all the athiests who believe that, although God does not exist, the devil does. (Now I think about it some more sarcasm doesn't really come over well in text.)--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 17:47, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

RW is being run by Santa-ists hiding behind a computer auto-correct-misnomer. (talk) 09:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Block log

It's funny to see joke blocks on my Watchlist from time to time but really, do people do anything other than play around in the blocklog these days? --Let Them Eat Cake (talk) 23:07, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

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