Talk:Shroud of Turin

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Let us to OHIO next month. SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:38, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

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[edit] A whine (about the Shroud, not the article)

Doesn't anyone question why said "jesus" has LONG hair, from a time when we know the fashion was basically short hair? I'm just saying....Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 18:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

How dare you. Jesus was white and European looking. And probably spoke English with an American accent. Sam Tally-ho! 18:47, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] shroud of turin education and research association??

Anyone have any actual info on these guys? Are they a scientifically valid research association (I'm guessing no, but please provide evidence of this?)

[edit] This article is pretty weak

This is the best "rational" people can do to debunk this thing? After reading this, I'd be inclined to believe this is real. — Unsigned, by: 68.192.246.39 / talk / contribs 8 September 2013

You have some really poor comprehension skills then. — Unsigned, by: 79.109.52.226 / talk / contribs 22 June 2014
  1. The fact you din't sign you post raises the question of whether you are reliable.
  2. I found the article to be perfectly rational. There are sources. Look at them. Also: Everyone Drink!
  3. Christian Apologetics are NOT very reliable for a history lesson just to let you know. Leave History to the real Scientists.--TemplarJLS (talk) 10:34, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

[edit] re: the Christopher Knight bit

Do we really want to use Christopher Knight as a source? The dude who wrote The Hiram Key?

We intentionally use the word "speculate," but if you want to add that he's a raving conspiracy nut, be our guest. Osaka Sun (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


[edit] Sorry if I'm a little late on this, but I was sent to this article on a news website I didn't know about.

http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jutarnji.hr%2F-rijesili-smo-misterij--torinsko-platno-nije-srednjovjekovna-krivotvorina--znanstvenici-objavili-rezultate-novog-istrazivanja%2F1093805%2F

It's apparently translated by Google (The site), and while it claims scientists have found the Shroud is real(heh), I don't know the site's reputation. I still remember when I fell for a certain Blaze article...--Tsunadi (talk) 11:25, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Well the shroud is obviously "real" in that it "really exists".
But, even taking the translated story at face value, the best that can be said is that they claim to have shown that it is old. And, well, so what?--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 18:31, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I did some digging around and found out the Glulio Fanti, the guy who did the research, and Saverio Gaeta were Catholics, which makes me start to wonder if this is an instance of Lying for Jesus.--Tsunadi (talk) 12:57, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

[edit] "There are many articles online"

...that claim that the Greys are real and that Elvis lives, too. I'm a stranger here, but from the Rational Wiki I would expect somewhat higher standard - even the Wikipedia Shroud of Turin article states, I presume more correctly, that Fanti (an apologist, but who seems to be a scientist publishing on imagining techniques and optics) stated that the image is largely compatible with a real body image and in 2013 published a book rekindling some hypotheses on a possible corona discharge as a mean to create the image. No mention of alleged anatomical correctnes, age of the cloth and other data contradicting possible authenticity of the shroud - even if Fanti perhaps claimed so, quality of his evidence was probably too much embarrassing for other apologists to include in the article, or perhaps did not pass standards of other Wikipedia editors.

And even the reference article says that Gaeta is not a scientist, but a journalist who helped Fanti to write the book in question. -188.122.212.12 (talk) 19:31, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
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