Talk:To Train Up a Child

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And if such children survive the 'training' sufficiently to be able to enter into the employment market, the parents will complain that the child has no 'backbone'/'get up and go' and is likely to remain a subordinate. 212.85.6.26 (talk) 18:52, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Another child's death linked to Pearls and "To Train Up a Child"

A California couple has been charged with murder and torture after their discipline methods caused the death of one of their children and critical injuries for another.

Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz of Paradise, California, are accused of murdering their 7-year-old adopted daughter during a "discipline session." The couple is also charged with the torture of their 11-year-old adopted daughter and cruelty to a child for signs of bruising discovered on their 10-year-old biological son.

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Just posting this here to people who don't know about the childrens who have been killed because of this book. — Unsigned, by: 189.12.87.209 / talk / contribs

i read about this from somewhere else. the word "train up" infuriated me. Hello, love? respect? help the child GROW UP????Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 02:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Children exist to do what their parents told them. At least, that's what mother told me... Тytalk 02:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Vic and I are currently watching a Nat Geo show about "child preachers". it's sickening. these kids are not even saying words, but the adults praise them, so they keep doing it. --Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 02:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
I hate those. I could go into the details of my childhood in email if you'd like, but... yeah. Pentecostals ordain at like 7. Тytalk 02:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] meanwhile, dogs, 35% smarter than cats

huh???? god these people are idots.--Pink mowse.pngGodotI smell roasted chestnuts. droollllllll. 00:59, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Why are these people not in jail?

Seriously, why not? There's got to be some way to charge them with malpractice... --Gulik (talk) 02:56, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I for one was just about to post almost the same thing, except suggesting that they be tried for child abuse: One count for every death their terrible "advice" caused :>:(. Even free speech has limits, and I think this crosses the line (and no, I'm not generally a prude who thinks porn or violent media cross the line; on the :contrary, I believe obscenity laws should be struck down on First Amendment grounds. But this...this is something else...it's akin to yelling "FIRE!" in a theatre, or hate speech)Sensual Endeavor, the sexy pony ;) (talk) 03:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering whether they could be charged with something on the line of accessory or aiding and abetting either murder, manslaughter or at least child abuse - particularly in the light of this one line: "She also was accustomed to smash some of her other adopted sons with a piece of plumbing bought particularly for the purpose, at the Pearls' explicit recommendation".
If person A "explicitly recommends" person B buying "a length of quarter-inch plumbing supply line" for the purpose of B using it to whip kids, that sounds like well beyond free speech. I mean, I doubt I would get off scot free if I "explicitly recommended" that someone go and buy a lead pipe for the purpose of whacking some poor bugger over the head with it, or what? If it's not considered OK to whip your kids with "a length of quarter-inch plumbing supply line", I can hardly see why openly advocating such abuse in print is not liable for some sort of punishment. ScepticWombat (talk) 02:16, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
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