# Trinity

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 “”THE DOGMA OF THE TRINITY: The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion — the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct from one another. —The Catholic Encyclopedia[1]

The Trinity is a central concept in Christianity, describing the relationship between God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These are, according to Christian doctrine, three distinct manifestations of the one thing. Defining the trinity is like defining the outside of a Mobius strip, and many attempts have been made to clarify the matter. After two thousand years of effort, it is fair to say that none have fully succeeded. Even when their single God is actually a triumvirate, the fact remains that none of the deities are female, as the Holy Spirit is genderless. Apparently, God is not an Equal Opportunity deity.

## Pre-Christian origins

Triads of complementary gods were a common theme in pre-Christian mythology. One such example is Zeus, Poseidon and Hades in Greek mythology. The Romans had the additional concept of Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva which they developed from Tinia, Uni, and Menerva, part of the pantheon of ancient Babylon. Cynics may argue that the early Roman Catholic Church copied the concept of the Trinity from the many current examples in the Roman world round them.[2] Family relationships between members of a trinity were also common in Babylonian mythology.[3]

Another possible source is the philosophy of ancient Greece including Pythagoras and Plato.[4] Judaism in the Zohar also has some concept of God as three, "secret, hidden 'Wisdom'; above that the Holy Ancient One; and above Him the Unknowable One"'.[5]

The practice of worshiping three gods together as one appears new to Christianity.

## Christian origins

The Bible does not contain any explicit mention of the doctrine of Trinity, though there are several fragments claimed to indirectly support it. There are also several fragments that appear to explicitly deny it, but this does not appear to be a problem. The only explicit trinitarian passage, known as Comma Johanneum (1 John 5:7-8), was deliberately added to the Bible sometime during the 4th century - around the time when the doctrine itself was officially formed. That's actually a grave sin in Christianity.[6] Oops.

There are several possible origins for Trinity. It might have developed from the phrase used during baptism: "In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

## Some interpretations

Scutum Fidei

St. Patrick used the shamrock to explain the trinity to the people of Ireland: one shamrock, three leaves.[7] The Jesus at the Holy Land Experience theme park used the analogy of water; which can be ice, liquid water and steam, three different properties of the same thing. This even managed to impress Bill Maher. (Although if you think about it, that would simply make it a monotheistic religion with a polymorphic God. And given there are more than 10 different solid phases of ice[8] any new form of God suddenly "being observed" is totally in line with this interpretation)

Christian thinkers have debated, fought and killed over the matter, especially during and after the reign of Constantine. The differences between the various forms of (from one end of the spectrum to the other) Arianism, Semi-Arianism, orthodoxy and Gnosticism are so minute that one's head spins. Thus, understandings of the nature of the Trinity have historically been grounds to excommunicate and exile opponents. The Roman Catholic Church observes a middle ground in this matter between the rather logical and clear three extremes (the three are perfectly equal and separate; the three are perfectly equal and the same; God created the other two to feel less lonely).

The Shield of the Trinity[wp] or Scutum Fidei is a traditional Christian symbol which is supposed to explain the trinity.

## Bizarre implications

When you keep in mind that Jesus is supposed to be God, the New Testament ceases to make any sense whatsoever, because in many passages Jesus acts as if he was distinct from God. Some examples:

• Mark 1:35: Jesus prays alone... to himself? This is some serious schizophrenic shit.
• Mark 16:19: Jesus was taken up to heaven to sit at... his own right hand?
• John 20:17: Jesus talks about returning to himself.

## Some attempts at formal logic

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(now, this is just for fun, remember...)

This derivation assumes that the word "is" is used as the subset relator, e.g. in the same sense as in the sentences "Mary is running" or "The ceiling is white". Note that this is less strict than the traditional Christian interpretations.

The shield presents the following 12 statements simultaneously:

1. "The Father is God"
2. "The Son is God"
3. "The Holy Spirit is God"
4. "God is the Father"
5. "God is the Son"
6. "God is the Holy Spirit"
7. "The Father is not the Son"
8. "The Son is not the Father"
9. "The Father is not the Holy Spirit"
10. "The Holy Spirit is not the Father"
11. "The Son is not the Holy Spirit"
12. "The Holy Spirit is not the Son"

Since $A \subseteq B \and B \subseteq A \Rightarrow A = B$, the statements 1-6 can be restated as follows:

God = Father
God = Son
God = Holy Spirit

while the statements 6-12 can be restated as:

Father ≠ Son
Father ≠ Holy Spirit
Son ≠ Holy Spirit

Conventional logic says that equality is transitive: $A = B \and B = C \Rightarrow A = C$. Let's start from one of the "is not" relations.

Father ≠ Son

Now let's substitute the left side with the statement "God = Father":

God ≠ Son

and then substitute the right side with "God = Son":

God ≠ God

Further application of transitivity leads to the following statements:

Son ≠ Son
Father ≠ Father
Holy Spirit ≠ Holy Spirit

We conclude that God is not God, and so the doctrine of the Trinity implies that God as well as all three persons of the Trinity violate the law of identity. One of the fundamental assumptions of conventional logic is that objects that violate the law of identity do not exist: there is no entity that is not itself. This means several things:

• If Trinity is true, then God does not exist, and neither do any of his three persons.
• If God exists, then by the law of noncontradiction Trinity is a false doctrine.
• If God exists and Trinity is true, it can mean two things:
• Logic is meaningless, because it is possible to prove anything, including the existence and the non-existence of God.
• Trinity means something else than its Christian definition.

It requires a "special" kind of brain to hold on to beliefs like this. The exercise is reminiscent of the Orwellian "logic test" 2+2=5,[wp] which signified to the party that someone has been "broken", since anyone capable of accepting that could accept anything.

## Footnotes

1. The Original Catholic Encyclopedia: The Blessed Trinity
2. The Origin of the Trinity: From Paganism to Constantine
3. Pre-Christian parallels to the Trinity in Babylonia...~Carl Jung
4. Pre-Christian parallels to the Trinity in Babylonia...~Carl Jung
5. The Zohar, Influence Influence on Christian Mysticism This is not in the Tanakh and people who have not studied Judaism very thoroughly may not know how to interpret it, see Kabbalah. Jews for Jesus tries to make something out of this trinity though the concept is different from Father, Son, and Holy spirit.
6. Revelation 22:18 — "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book." Note that it's unclear whether this is the punishment for tampering with the Book of Revelation or any portion of the Bible.
7. No word on who the occasional fourth leaf represents.
8. http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/phase.html