Maum Meditation

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Maum Meditation is a religious practice founded by Woo Myung.

Although not all details are known, the final goal of Maum Meditation is to "subtract" the so-called false mind. In order to achieve that, one must imagine oneself falling into a black hole or dying. Maum teaches that we must lose attachment to various things, family, memories, and the image of oneself. There are supposedly seven levels; each level is one attachment that needs to be abandoned. Beyond these seven levels are secret levels, not known to non-practitioners.

After all 7 (someone report 8) levels there is a culmination process that requires a travel to Maum's camps in Argentina or Korea (possibly new camps are expected now since they have the money to afford that) and a final fee of several thousands dollars (or as much as a someone can afford).

Maum has hidden fees, and secret progression through "levels", and overall resembles cults like the Church of Scientology far too closely.

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[edit] Media coverage

Despite the fact this kind of meditation has (estimated) thousands of followers, there's very little media coverage. Usually Maum recruits new members through leafleting and tries to be as secret as possible. It is considered by many to be a cult, but unlike other "successful" cults, Maum Meditation attempts to be as quiet and secretive as possible.

[edit] Evolving

To avoid the people get information about it, the cult is evolving, new centers are no longer called "Maum", nor do they reference "Maum" material, but they still keep the same (or a similiar) levels structure. Confirmation questions are changed to allow identify more easily who leaked informations about the cult.

[edit] Dogma

In a way similiar to Buddhism, we are taught of a fake world. The progression is done through a series of mental exercises. Any question to a member of the cults regarding the content of the courses is answered in a negative way (even in a contradictory way). Hiding information to external people is seen by most as a joke and almost all people completing the first level is already engaged to a deep level in the cult.

[edit] Secrecy

See the main article on this topic: Milk before meat

Newcomers are told not to reveal meditation practice details to anyone, and the levels of "attachment" are similarly not disclosed to those not practising Maum.

If asked why secrecy is needed, cultists helpers will told you that you are still not ready for truth, and that you cannot be influenced by external world or else the meditation will fail. The common explanation to everything is that "you have a dirty mind" and "you need to clean your mind".

While it may be true that someone might not understand advanced teachings without proper preparation (for example, in mathematics), that does not preclude the ability to at least say what said advanced teachings are. Algebra teachers aren't forbidden from describing what calculus is, and mentioning calculus to an algebra student doesn't destroy their algebra education!

It is much more likely that this secrecy is needed to circumvent natural defenses that everyone naturally has (skepticism, awareness, doubt) in order that events that occurs later won't make you worry (e.g., more expensive advanced fees).

[edit] How much money did they already take?

There is no such thing like a statistic on how many people got deceived by the cult, however they have enough funds to maintain a number of web sites, and enough money to pay rent for hundreds centers all around the world. They are accepted as religion (providing some tax relief) in some countries and banned in other countries. They also try to use all free to use services in order to get more "sites" (meetup, Wikipedia, Reddit).

[edit] So said final goals

Some of the goals cultists helpers will tell you about is to have free maum meditation for every person in the world, this is used as excuse for monthly fees, however this could already have been achieved, so it is plainly a lie.

It is sufficient 1 book or 1 website to teach meditation thus making the meditation free for everyone, however that would have the downside of unveiling the controversial techniques and at same time to remove any economic income, which make evident that such goal it is in reality a lie. (unless of course reaching the same progression requires usage of drugs and brainwashing, in that case a book may not be sufficient)

[edit] Other practices

Maum mediation has additional practices.

[edit] Fees

Maum charges a monthly fee that may change according to which country it targets. In the US, it is from $80 to $160.

[edit] Abandonment

It is not uncommon that a practitioner of Maum travels away from their family if their family does not also enter Maum, a common technique of cults. One Maum Meditation practitioner donated his house to the practice.[1] New Maum centers do no longer cause a high degree of abandonment, now members are told to stay near their families and to make proselites among their families and friends. This resemble the "sleeping cell" tactic (used also by some terrorists, of course people in meditation centers is quite peacefull, and has NOTHING to do with terrorism). It is not uncommon that people lie to friends and familiars, they say they "left meditation centers" but at same time they continue to practice meditation without telling anyone or by trying to convince more friends. This is now a big difference compared to other cults.

A minor note, why do something teaching truth is build all around lies?

Have you ever been asked by a familiar or friend to do meditation with you and to lie to all your other friends and family be keeping this fact secrect?

[edit] Food

See the main article on this topic: Food woo

Maum practitioners have their own food supplements, that is, they use a so called "Self Balancing Food", which is claimed to be extracted from dried vegetables.

[edit] Drugs usage(?)

Seems possibly drugs are given to members (via air, or food). If you have ever fall asleep in the center, or you are unable to experience outside the centers the same experiences you had inside, then it is possible you have been given a slightly amount of some drugs, which kind of drugs is not given to know, nor no-one have ever did any analysis over the center or their foods. The only suspicious fact is that you are not able to have the same experiences outside their meditation centers, this is not something sure, but should be a big alarm.

People usually reject the idea of drugs because meditation is done in small groups and different people have different effects. A first evidence seems that if there is some drug in the air, then everyone should have its effect and not only someone, but effects of drugs depends on a variety of factors, gas concentration, time of exposition. It does not mean necessarily that you are given drugs: certain mind states once reached have the same effect of drugs. However there are references of gas altering human perception even In ancient Greece,[2] in particular certain Greece Oracles who were exposed to major doses of natural gas, do behaved like in a trance status, while people asking advice to Oracles was not exposed enough time (or was not near enough to the gas emission).

- Have you eat/drinked something in the center before experiencing something outside normal? - Have you sleeped in the center before experiencing something outside normal? - Do your seat have removable panels / holes / pipes hiden? (can be easily hidden under a wood panel or inside a pillow). - Have you been alone in a room before someone else entered? - Have you been alone in a room for some time before experiecing something outside normal?

If all the above questions have NO as answers, then your experience is just caused by your mind.

[edit] Woo Myung

It is often asserted that Woo Myung is God; it is unclear if these rumors are from Maum cultists or if it is just anti-Maum propaganda.

Woo Myung's website claims that he received the "Mahatma Gandhi Peace Prize",[3] but there is no further evidence that this price even exists. He is not a recipient of The International Gandhi Peace PrizeWikipedia's W.svg or the Gandhi Peace Award,Wikipedia's W.svg or even the Indira Gandhi Prize.Wikipedia's W.svg

According to other sources[4] Woo Myung was awarded the peace price by UN, however since that was easy to disclose that lie, related sites started mentioning IAEWP instead of UN (or ONG).

There are also attempts to disclose the IAEWP lie[5]

[edit] Maum and Wikipedia

The Wikipedia page on Maum was locked from editing and banned due to continuous edits made by cultists and anti-cultists.

Recently (2015-2016) there have been attempts to create fake Wikipedia pages to legitimate the IAEWP prize [6], all changes are done mostly by same authors who claim to just have "accidentally" found a number of people who were awarded the prize. However, the so cited people are all just pages created on Wikipedia; there are no independent sources that can confirm any of the prizes, indicating that effective attempts at media manipulation have already been done.

Right now there are attempts to create Wikipedia pages[7] that are clearly advertisements for the cult.

Why is something important like a peace prize is not covered by important media channels? Because it is just a private organization? Of course there exist plenty of organizations that try to seek for world peace (all covered with dozen articles by important and independent media channels), maybe we should start looking at those organizations instead?

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[edit] References

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