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For [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&diff=626836&oldid=626835 not recognising MY status as resident n00b.] {{User:SuperJosh/Sig|}} 14:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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David Gerard

For deleting comments from his talk page [1] [2] [3] -- Nx / talk 20:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Per previous LJ ruling on the precise same issue - David Gerard (talk) 20:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
These comments were not trolling. You are abusing the LJ ruling to remove comments you don't like. -- Nx / talk 20:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
No, but they were posted by someone who is here only to troll, which is what the ruling covered. - David Gerard (talk) 20:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Edit warring is tedious. Why do you want to be so tedious? ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
"...posted by someone who is here only to troll, which is what the ruling covered." That is blatantly false. The ruling said "delete the vile". Not just anything posted by someone you don't like. ħumanUser talk:Human 22:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Suggested solution: Nx is free to preserve them himself. If he can't be bothered, they probably weren't that important - David Gerard (talk) 20:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
The point is that things here are done by discussion and consensus. The collective agreement is that this is the best way things are handled. You're currently exacerbating a situation by going against the advice and wishes of a fairly sizeable group. Users were given the right to revert anything that was obviously malicious, if people are disagreeing that it was obviously malicious then it isn't obviously malicious. You were not given the right to strip out talk comments because you didn't like the user that posted them. Scarlet A.pngpostate 20:45, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I will be highly surprised if anything is accomplished here. Gerard continuously flouts the rules and does it with a cavalier disregard. Its time matters were discussed more seriously and for his eventual exclusion from the project by means of ostracisation. 86.40.104.238 (talk) 20:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, because the community's efforts to get rid of anyone "by means of ostracism" so far have been sooo successful...--ZooGuard (talk) 20:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
The final word there was: "obviously vile comments can be deleted by anyone. Others leave up to the person who's talk page it is. Article talk pages: delete the vile; ignore the trivial". I don't see any inherent issue in user talk pages being covered by that, since anyone with a message that's important can hit the saloon bar and have their comments stick - assuming it's not just a repetitive stream of junk. How about the concept that user talk pages are pretty much considered to be like our houses? i.e. we can manage them as we wish, but talk pages and the article talk pages (and other common area) should be treated more carefully? Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 21:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
This doesn't really seem the right place to discuss that. Better at the Community Standards page. ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 21:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
That would be a huge change to policy we have had since day one - user page is their "castle", user talk page is community property - with the one exception we now sort-of have of deleting the "obviously malicious or vile". ħumanUser talk:Human 22:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Where can I read RationalWiki "policies"? Maybe you mean the "Community Standards"? It appears that DG didn't follow that ideal [4], but if you are going to take away user rights for these sorts of things, I think you should first write the rules for bureaucrats and sysops, including the "punishments". ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 21:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

86 and Nx have a good point here, and DG is only being obfuscative in response, indeed, interpreting the LJ "decision" in his own special way. Thoughts? ħumanUser talk:Human 07:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps DG is following in your footsteps when you "interpreted" your fellow LJ in the "Case Closed" section. Human wrote, "So the LJ returns a decision. As per Toastie on the talk page, 'obviously vile comments can be deleted by anyone. Others leave up to the person who's talk page it is. Article talk pages: delete the vile; ignore the trivial.' The Local Jumpsuits have spoken." But there is a post there that reads "I remove all MC posts as it is and seems to be working just fine. Ace i9". Maybe DG thinks that means he should do the same for anyone he considers to be a troll. ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 21:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
The problem with Gerard is that he is a parasite sucking the lifeblood and everything that is good right out of Rationalwiki. He constantly breaks the rules and does so with a cavalier disregard. He ought to be punished. 86.40.200.2 (talk) 21:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
What punishment would be appropriate? ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 22:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Troll AceX-102 22:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Thirteen lashes with a dry noodle, administered by the dominatrix of his choice? We get pretty harsh here... ħumanUser talk:Human 05:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Awesome, I'll do it. AceX-102 05:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
File:Ginmachismo.jpg
Mr. Gerard, it's time for your punishment....
Sweet. David, please to bend over now. And drop 'em. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
One of the examples Nx posted in the OP was Earthlands comments being smalled. Apparently Human wrote, "All of Earthland's comments on talk pages that are not welcome may be triple-smalled. So may any of yours. Oops, did you read this? Then this applies to you as well. ħumanUser talk:Human 12:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)" ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 13:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I should probably work to create a safe space for the trolls while going off on reversion sprees of anyone I argue with, always marked of course as minor edits. Because safety for blatant trolls is safety for reversion sprees scientifically indistinguishable from butthurt. Hey, it's another RationalWiki Insight! - David Gerard (talk) 14:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Nx

Has confessed that his troll-enabling behaviour is butthurt at not being able to rangeblock[5]. Can we go home now? - David Gerard (talk) 21:18, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, let us all make fun of this process, and ignore all the problems. That has worked so well before. -- Nx / talk 21:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Process is important - David Gerard (talk) 21:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes, making fun of it will solve all problems. -- Nx / talk 21:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
The "problems" here are that you spent a few months so ragingly butthurt that you couldn't block MC that you decided to promote trolling as hard as you could. That is, you have admitted that you deliberately exacerbated the problems you have now insisted on bringing to all attention. This strongly suggests the "problems" you are bringing to community attention are you being clueless. The solution to properly address them would be for you to stop it - David Gerard (talk) 21:50, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
(ec) Yes, clearly MC is only trolling because of me. -- Nx / talk 22:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
You've been proxying for him and encouraging him because you couldn't rangeblock him - David Gerard (talk) 22:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Please cite where Nx has admitted such a thing. I don't see any "confession" in the post you linked above. ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
His edit comments of reversion over the past several months, particularly in the leadup to his LJ case. In any case, the solution to the actual problem presented in the above section remains: Nx, stop deliberately being a fuckwit - David Gerard (talk) 22:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I say we let him rangeblock. EddyP (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I agree, although on the understanding that it's a trial period to see how it works? Rangeblocking could get pretty widespread if MC decides to shift around proxies or use the college machines - assuming he's still studying. With the college IPs though he's far more limited in what he can do. Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 21:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I've not followed any of this, but is it anything to do with you getting pulled up deleting stuff from your talkpage, Dave? DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 22:16, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I delete trolling, Nx puts it back as an IP and his motivation is that he wasn't allowed to rangeblock Marcus so did his best to prove his perception of the rules broken by enforcing them ad absurdum. Rather than, e.g., not being a fuckwit - David Gerard (talk) 22:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Telling you that you are wrong is not trolling, TK [6] -- Nx / talk 22:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
David, can you at least be civil about this? Considering the issue at hand is your perhaps abusive tendency to delete talk page comments? ħumanUser talk:Human 22:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
That sounds very like having pre-decided your answer, considering you posted it below someone calling me TK - David Gerard (talk) 22:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, he added that after I clicked "edit". Nx, please don't call David "TK". David, please quit being a dick. And what "answer"? All I was doing was suggesting you leave out terms like "butthurt" and "fuckwit", at least in this discussion. ħumanUser talk:Human 23:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

NX again

Wheel warring against consensus at RationalWiki:Nuclear Option. Ex-Troll Cheerleader (talk) 13:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Fuck off you obnoxious troll. - π 13:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
His punishment for this heinous offence is this DELICIOUS CAKE full of DEADLY NEUROTOXIN - David Gerard (talk) 13:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
i guess it was actually human in the wrong, sorry NX. Ex-Troll Cheerleader (talk) 13:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Superhamster

He started by questioning my pottery writing skills and then went on to claim that I have no mental abilities. If this is not bullying, then I don't know, what is. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 08:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh well, that's to be expected from age. AceX-102 08:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Gerard again

Deliberate [provocation], smugness, and sustained abuses of power. Please sort out this user once and for all. Thank you. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 09:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Although the troll commonly found at 86.40.*.* is commonly referred to as "MC", what is the evidence that this is in actual fact the person who was User:MarcusCicero? Considering the actual username is unblocked anyway - David Gerard (talk) 09:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I dunno, you delete everything 86.40.*.* types on sight, so your argument sort of undermines itself. I meant to write this a week ago, but got distracted by something more important, like a fly on my keyboard. ħumanUser talk:Human 07:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Radioactive afikomen should not have edited MC's userpage in the first place unless you are saying that RA is MC? Bondurant (talk) 10:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
You are so full of shit Gerard. Everybody knows you are attention seeking here. You know fine well that I am MC. And no, my account is constantly blocked. I wished ye had a bit of common sense and unblocked my MC account, rather than forcing me to edit via IPs. Its so obtuse and retarded. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 11:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I can see no record of a block since then. If you are really MC, then the step to establish the fact is obvious. If you can't demonstrate this fact, then all edits to User:MarcusCicero since the last by the actual user MarcusCicero should be reverted - David Gerard (talk) 12:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
It appears David Gerard did not revert to the last version by user:MarcusCicero[7]. ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 20:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
You are such a fucking twat. I mean really. You make 200 edits per day, oblivious to the fact that most people here despise you. Fuck off back to wikipedia. Also I tried to edit under MarcusCicero but apparantly I'm in the vandal bin. Here was the message I received; ' You are unable to edit because you have been placed into the vandal bin.

You were put in the vandal bin by Gooniepunk2010 and the reason given was: "Feeding the Troll: He can get fucked!". While we hope you had fun, we had to do something, so you can only make one edit every 30 minutes now. If this is a mistake or you have turned a new leaf please alert any sysops. You will be able to edit again in 28 minutes. The block ID is #613. Please include this in any queries. '

Gerard - kindly ball up in a corner and die, you thoroughly evil bastard. 74.63.112.138 (talk) 12:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
See? Not banned. You just have to use your half-hourly edit wisely and not like some sort of frothing incoherent abusive person. So use your next half-hourly edit to edit the user page as MarcusCicero to the version you want and that'll prove it's the way you want it. Until then, you're long on talk and short on evidence - David Gerard (talk) 12:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Really, you are so fucking vile. You are a disgusting person. Truly disgusting. Sooner or later people here will get fed up of you and force you out. Serious - fuck off. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Well done! Wasn't that hard, was it? I've unblocked you so you can fix your user page, there's been some IPs in the 86.40.*.* range shitting all over it. Use your half-hourly edit wisely! - David Gerard (talk) 14:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Just go fuck yourself. TomMoore blocked me for 3 months the other day. I don't know what kind of sophistries you are playing with but you look like an obese loser masturbating over his sisters underwear, you deviant freak. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 12:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Quaru (talk) 12:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

You really are an obtuse twat. I am already unbinned in the sense that I can edit any time I like with any IP I like. And stop posting up events that happened before you ever arrived here, you pathetic NOOB. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 12:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Wow. Way to welcome new users. You're obviously a great addition to the community, who should be welcomed with open arms to keep the other pesky noobs out. I hardly have to have been here to point out what a douche you are. And I was here on June 7th. When you said you're a troll, and just want to fuck with everyone here. So on that note.

Troll: On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. MarcusCicero (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Troll: On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. MarcusCicero (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Troll: On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. MarcusCicero (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Better, pumpkin? Quaru (talk) 12:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Quaru, you are incredibly irrelevant. You are like all the other aspergers morons on this site, incapable of having a sense of humour and getting offended at the smallest things. Just stay out of my way. You are a minor irritant. That is all. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

This is the best: "You are such a fucking twat. I mean really. You make 200 edits per day, oblivious to the fact that most people here despise you." Haha yes what a lack of self-awareness.--ADtalkModerator 14:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Another Ace McWicked Fan Club Meeting

Ole! Ole! Ole!

RA

RA has protected his page for too long, contravening this sites most fundamental rules. It will not stand. It will not. 86.40.203.66 (talk) 16:57, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

A bit of context. I was going on to his talk page to deliver a mortal blow to his authority, but realised the page was protected and thus I had no editing rights there. not only has RA been deprived of the opportunity to learn from his own failings as a consequence of gentle prodding from yours truly, RA has also managed to substantiate the charge of authoritarianism so justly laid down on his door. 86.40.203.66 (talk) 16:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Harrumph. Undone. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 02:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I'll Harrumph you in a second. AceX-102 02:41, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, RA, that was the right thing to do. ħumanUser talk:Human 07:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Eighty-six-point-something

For not recognising MY status as resident n00b. SJ Debaser 14:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)