Debate:Should usages of Jr. and Sr. be preceded with commas

This is a Debate page. Feel free to add your own spin on the story. Please keep it civil! This debate was created by UShistoryanalyzer.

Usages of "Jr." and "Sr." have their importance for the sake of distinguishing between separate people. But the question of whether their practical application should follow a comma (i.e. Donald Trump, Jr., or Donald Trump Jr.?) is a pondered question by most which elicits considerably little debate.

Hitherto 1993, commas usage was not discouraged by recommendations of the Chicago Manual of Style. And Garner's Modern American Usage also discourages commas usage preceding "Jr." or "Sr." But given the prevalence such instances traditionally involving the usage of commas and particularly in formal writing, the debate does not appear to be simply resolved. Ushit the dipshit ^{(I shit, Ushit...)} 05:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Do they even need commas? I'd think no. Andrew5 (talk) 02:19, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Historically, a comma was required, but it's going out of style. Probably for the same reason you'd think they wouldn't be needed: it doesn't sound like they should be. Commas typically indicate a brief pause, but in speech, you (or I, at least) would not put a pause in Donald Trump Jr. 𝒮𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝑒 ^talk 02:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Your presented point does invoke a sensible and practical outlook. Even with an inclusion of commas in a phrase such as "Donald Trump, Jr., is a blithering idiot," one who verbally states it aloud would indeed likely talk without the inclusion of breaks that commas would indicate. Ushit the dipshit ^{(I shit, Ushit...)} 02:49, 11 January 2022 (UTC)