Talk:Micronation
“Failed Holy Roman Empire”?[edit]
In what sense is/was The Holy Roman Empire an example of a “failed state”? Sure, it no longer exists, but it’s Hardy unique in this (tonnesnof States have disappeared) and its longevity of about a thousand years is nothing to sneeze at. I don’t think that the HRE really works as an example in this context, either as an illustration of a failed state or as an example of a particularly “heated political system”. ScepticWombat (talk) 08:52, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Plagarism[edit]
The Bir Tawil section was almost entirely plagiarized from wp:Attempts to claim Bir Tawil as a sovereign state, though the first few paragraphs were not copied from that article. The content appears to have been added in good faith by @Lavalizard101, but it does not include any disclaimer to such effect, and retains broken Wikipedia formatting and links. It was added here, and I deleted it when it looked like this. It is too much content to comment out, both in our article and as almost all of a Wikipedia article, but it can hopefully be paraphrased, cleaned up, and so on. If Lavalizard was planning on paraphrasing the content, it can hopefully be re-added, free of duplicate content, soon. If not, I don't really know how to make sure it gets back in. Feedback would be much appreciated.
– Regards, Avarice 14:31, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Plagiarism is never an act of "good faith". Assuming that Lavalizard101 was going to paraphrase or cleanup the content "later" is no excuse. The material should never have been plagiarized from wikipedia in the first place. It is not the job of other editors to clean up another editor's blatant disregard for our community standards. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 14:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Does @Lavalizard101 have anything to say here? – Regards, Avarice 16:01, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't plagiarise, I attributed the content in the edit summary, I thought that was enough as that's how we do it on Wikipedia when copying content from one article to another. Ok I forgot to change wikilinks, but copying with attribution is allowed given the cc license of wikipedia. Lavalizard101 (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- (ec) The edit summary doesn't count as attribution; you have to provide in-text credit. In any event, I can't imagine copying an entire article is approved of in most circles, this one included. It's true that the licenses are compatible, but copying from Wikipedia is still disavowed in the CS. – Regards, Avarice 00:11, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't plagiarise, I attributed the content in the edit summary, I thought that was enough as that's how we do it on Wikipedia when copying content from one article to another. Ok I forgot to change wikilinks, but copying with attribution is allowed given the cc license of wikipedia. Lavalizard101 (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Does @Lavalizard101 have anything to say here? – Regards, Avarice 16:01, 27 June 2025 (UTC)