Talk:Red pill
Main Matrix Page?[edit]
Where's the main page about The Matrix? I just wanted to write a long list of plot holes in it's talk page
A plot hole i just found[edit]
The plot hole in question. About why machines didn't use one of following options to solve all their problems with resisting humans in Matrix while simultaneously turning off the "real death upon in-game death" setting without ill consequences to increase energy production:
- 1) held tightly restrained humans whiteout connecting them to Matrix (who cares if he knows everything, if he can't do anything about it?).
- 2) held animals, or microbes in capsules - either tightly restrained (so they don't break things) or in Matrix in idyllic simulation(s) (cow won't think about existential questions - it'll just eat grass; animals also breed faster).
- 3) decrease intelligence of humans in simulation so they can't think (either via chemicals, brain surgery, or them growing up as feral children in simulation of wilderness).
- 4) simulate pre-industrial (e.g. medieval monastery, stone age, feral children during stone age) tightly-enclosed groups where everyone are illiterate and each tiny group is on it's own server. Therefore people can't rebel as effectively (explain "computers" to man which has no language and doesn't know what fire is), and any damage is localized to 1 server.
- 5) grow humans in special VR training camps, indoctrinating them into Machine cause, so they fanatically support Machines in "Real World" and can even be rallied as militia if needed.
Additionally, this assumes that physics in Machine's "real world" is not ours, and it's possible to gain energy by feeding and endlessly recycling nutrients to living being (i.e. that in their world, humans produce energy and matter, and not consume it like in real life). And that this absurd setup would somehow give more energy, than just burning those nutrients in a furnace, while also out-producing closed-cycle nuclear reactors and fusion reactors (!). This is already strange - basically, about as physically (un)sound as Dr Robotnik's encapsulate-animal-powered robots from Sonic The Hedgehog - despite The Matrix not being rule-of-cool and rule-of-fun driven-for-comedy.
...And by moment we get to the simulation (Matrix) itself, things turn from being strange to "Idiot Plot". By installing VR into capsules with smart living humans (!!), with ejection and killing mechanisms based on what happens on that VR (!!!) - Architector's Machines greatly complicated things for themselves, by effectively creating partisans from an empty place (if using any of above 4 setups, living batteries couldn't do any harm at all unless freed by outside hostilities), wasting energy (due to humans dying to in-VR reasons long before their death from natural causes, therefore producing energy for less time) and wasting CPU time (since instead of doing something useful, servers are busy running Matrix - and Matrix isn't needed in most setups above).
And lastly: why Machines didn't put extra guards around Neo's capsule? In real-space that is, in case he ejects (which he did)
So: plot is held by 1) technology which blatantly violates Laws Of Thermodynamics, and somehow out-competes viable technologies, 2) super-intelligent AGIs managing the power-plant in the most overcomplicated and ineffective way possible, 3) Machines paying less attention to the most destructive human in their region than they should.
Any objections, or extra plot holes you found? --Jniawqjinhg (talk) 19:23, 10 October 2025 (UTC)