User:Buck/Sandbox
Slavery arguments:
“almost all peoples have been both slaves and slaveholders at some point in their histories.” Still, earlier coerced labor systems in the Atlantic World generally differed, in terms of scale, legal status, and racial definitions,
Hilary Beckles: "The early modern world witnessed various forms of slavery and servitude as systems of labour, but neither in Europe nor in Africa did this subservience involve the branding of persons as chattel."
Shitheads:
Examples of African societies with a high proportion slaves include Zanzibar (65-90% slaves), Madagascar (50% slaves), peoples in the Sahara and the Sahel (15-75% slaves), and a large number of states in Sub-Saharan West Africa (33-66% slaves). A very large slave trade occurred from Sub-Saharan Africa to the Islamic world during the 650-1905 period. According to some estimates, it may have been twice as large as the transatlantic slave trade.
Metapedia https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Slavery#cite_note-1
"there were thousands of years when slavery was practiced around the world by people of virtually every race. " https://www.pe.com/2015/07/14/thomas-sowell-an-american-scapegoat-slavery/
The region of West Africa ... was one of the great slave-trading regions of the continent — before, during, and after the white man arrived. It was the Africans who enslaved their fellow Africans, selling some of these slaves to Europeans or to Arabs and keeping others for themselves. Even at the peak of the Atlantic slave trade, Africans retained more slaves for themselves than they sent to the Western Hemisphere. ... Arabs were the leading slave raiders in East Africa, ranging over an area larger than all of Europe." https://www.thespectrum.com/story/opinion/2018/07/14/elder-facts-slavery-not-taught-my-high-school/785432002/
Playful prose:
It is near inevitable in any online discussion about the institution of slavery in the United States that somewhere and at sometime a CHUD will waddle in to gravely announce that slavery existed in places besides America. This is certainly true, tragic, historical, and worth remembering. But outside of someone truly just announcing a fascinating discovery they made to you, the reason for inserting this into the conversation can usually be boiled down to logical fallacies, ahistorical thinking, or intentional negationist mythmaking(note)/something within a stone's throw of Lost Cause-ism.
Logical fallacies:
whataboutism Straw man False equivalence False dilemma McNamara fallacy
C's:
Change Over Time: Context: Complexity: Contingency:
Causality: