Debate:We don't need a God anymore if he even did exist

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Proposition[edit]

If the Judeo-Christian God did exist, than we wouldn't even need him anyway. For with science, humans can become like gods in given time.

Against[edit]

The problem with the proposition, is that it begs the question, what does it mean to become like a god? I propose to be god-like requires, among other things, first eternal life, and second, ultimate meaning. But are these necessary criteria fulfilled without the Judeo-Christian God?

1) In principle, it doesn't solve the existential problem. There will have been literally trillions of humans from history past that their lives will have been utterly meaningless. Then from history forward, when and if humans finally do achieve 'god-status,' the human-gods just go on living forever... then what? At worst insanity ensues since the existential crisis has only been half met, namely eternal life. But for life to be meaningful, one must also enjoy an entity which is qualitatively infinite, nothing within the universe fulfills this requirement.

2) In fact, death remains inevitable anyway as a result of entropy. The entropic heat death of the universe awaits all stars and as a result science will stop, motion will stop and life will most certainly stop. This is not fiction. This is actually what awaits, "given time." So then not even half of the merely necessary criteria are met, the proposition can't even get off the ground!

Thus, even given the greatest amount of time, not even both requirements are fulfilled in order to solve the existential crisis. All we're left with is an ultimate absurdity in place of an ultimate meaning. So the proposition "If the [Judeo-Christian] God did exist, [then] we wouldn't even need him anyway," becomes false on two counts.

I. If God did exist, we would most certainly need him in order to do what only a transcendent entity can do, reverse entropy, allowing for eternal life. For entropy cannot be reversed within the system, no matter the level of science.

II. But also, we need a relation with an entity in which its ultimate qualitative infinity must be realized in order for life to be meaningful and not absurd.

Therefore, the final sentence of the proposition collapses under its own weight. For even with the aid of science, human-gods don't really seem very god-like. Indeed quite the opposite, an absurd existence ensues.