Essay talk:Why atheism is bullshit
This is the first mention of god by Rational Thinker, until then he talks about religion and religion is not God.
You must know the concept of God in the Christian faith in His fundamental relation to the universe, which is that God is the creator of everything in the universe that is not God Himself.
And the universe of atheist scientists is smaller than the totality of existence which is the traditional concept of the universe; the totality of existence includes the existence of God, and it has a part that is created by God, that part or component which exists in time and space; but God exists outside time and space and still He is immanent in time and space as the creator and conservator and operator of the universe of the material sciences.
You have to think philosophy to know that there is existence outside time and space.
And you have to think philosophy to know about the concept of the universe as the totality of existence.
Pachomius
Rational Thinker has a constricted mind, his universe is only one of material components.
You have to think philosophy to come to the realms of existence not bound by material components; you have to think philosophy to know the universe as the totality of existence.
You see, you have to be human i.e. above animals to think of reaching the moon and succeeding; also you have to think philosophy to know the totality of existence that is the universe instead of a constricted universe of time and space and all things material, nothing transcending materials.
Pachomius
That you Rational Thinker are alive and breathing and conscious and thinking and writing, that is a miracle that is possible only because God exists as the creator of everything in the universe that is not God Himself.
You have to think philosophy to come to that enlightenment.
Pachomius
You have to think philosophy to come to the existence of the soul from the existence of consciousness in man, and his reason and will faculties.
If you only think within the confines of material things you will never come to anything beyond material things.
Pachomius
Rational Thinker is back to religion, know that religion is not God and God is not religion.
Now, you have got to think philosophy specifically philosophy of religion to talk at all about NOMA.
All knowledge is one but you have constricted your mind to only know material things and to not go beyond material things.
Traditionally science (scientia) was universal knowledge, it was called philosophy, the philosophy of material things was called natural philosophy; now it has been constricted and restricted to only knowledge of material things.
Pachomius
One of the things which many religions claim to possess is the authority to give eternal moral (or ethical) guidance to their followers. However, the fact that religious beliefs have frequently been important factors in causing or exacerbating divisions between peoples - sometimes even resulting in warfare - rather devalues religion's claim to the moral high ground.
Furthermore, it is quite clear that religion's ethical advice is not eternal, as many religions' ethics evolve with society. This is clearly not a bad thing, but it removes religion's ability claim absolute moral standards or to pontificate for all time about morality. | One could speak of groups such as the Objectivists, who are atheists but also claim eternal absolutes in morality. However, the Objectivists do not posit such morals as a consequence of atheism.
On the other hand, some atheists do speak of absolute morals in conjunction with their religious beliefs. For example, the Secular Humanist Declaration says: "We are opposed to absolutist morality, yet we maintain that objective standards emerge, and ethical values and principles may be discovered, in the course of ethical deliberation." |
There are good humans and bad humans, good humans are founders of good religions, and bad humans are founders of bad religions.
And bad humans can pervert good religions to their own wicked gains and ambitions.
You have to think philosophy to come to the knowledge of what is goodness and what is badness on transcendental perspectives, and not see everything as survival of the fittest, otherwise you will end up with producing babies from your wives in order to feast on them as delicacies, as some perverts are already feasting on child pornography and into lubricious satisfaction of their libido lust preying on children. Pachomius
Somewhat confusing[edit]
Am I the only one to be confused by what's happening on this talk page?--BobSpring is sprung! 12:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- BoN is editing the essay, I've been shifting the comments to talk. Not terribly complex, but it might be difficult to follow. sshole 13:20, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Ahh.--BobSpring is sprung! 14:03, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Ar Sole[edit]
A soul could certainly exist, provided that it act entirely in conformance with natural law so that its existence could not be detected. So I'll store this undetectable sole in the garage along with the invisible pink unicorn. Or maybe it lives out next to Russell's teapot. I have all sorts of things which could certainly exist but cannot be detected. My garage is potively bulging with them, well, it would be except that a bulging garage would be evidence of existence. Bad Faith (talk) 12:49, 20 December 2011 (UTC)