Talk:Andrew Snelling

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I call him a fraud[edit]

I call him a fraud based off the facts that his views match up to what he wants based off his faith and beliefs instead of the truth and facts. His goal is to make a profit off of his books and DVD’s. His "facts" are mixed with "falsehoods" to deceive people for a profit. Whether he does it intentionally or not this is what he does. He is basically a snake oil sales man, a wolf in sheep's clothing and is making money off selling people what they want to hear about the history of the earth.

Below is just a brief synapses for the "facts" he presents with a true geologic rebuttal from me.

1 Dr. Snelling presents lines of evidence that both confirm the biblical account of the global Flood and cannot be explained by evolutionary models. Includes fossils high atop the Himalayas, the movement of the continents during the Flood, and more. Marine fossils are also found high in the Himalayas, the world’s tallest mountain range, reaching up to 29,029 feet (8,848 m) above sea level. For example, fossil ammonites (coiled marine cephalopods) are found in limestone beds in the Himalayas of Nepal. All geologists agree that ocean waters must have buried these marine fossils in these limestone beds. So how did these marine limestone beds get high up in the Himalayas?

1 This is a very flat earth old world belief that the flood must have washed these up so high. Fossils are high atop the Himalayas due to plate tectonics. The Indian plate over millions of years has slid up and hit the Eurasian plate pushing the crust of the earth up and the rocks that were once on the bottom of the ocean are now the top of mountains in the solid bedrock. A flood would not create rock fossils in limestone layers like this, thin layers over millions of years are laid down at the bottom of oceans. As weight builds atop they are compressed and over time turn to stone and fossils. These layers were laid down flat in layers in the bottom of the ocean and have now been metamorphicly bent and twisted up to the top of the mountain as the two plates push against each other and continue to push. Sorry these fossils were laid down at the bottom of the ocean first, turned to fossil and stone, and have been moved over time (millions of years) to their current location. Link to USGS (United States Geologic Survey) with better explanation.

The Himalayas are still growing every year they push higher as the Indian plate continues to move north. All the plates of the earth crust continue move around. See this about plate tectonics for more information:

The plates of the earth over 100's of millions of years move around. There are also Fossils of ferns and dinosaurs in Antarctica from when this plate used to be up near at the equator.

Just ask the Hawaii chain of islands these were formed over millions of years as the pacific plate has slid to the north and west making island after island for millions of years. Just ask California who in a few million years part of it will slowly slide up and out into the ocean where the san Andréa's fault lies. Earthquakes volcanoes around the ring of fire of the pacific these are all facts and proof of plate tectonics and the age of the earth.

2 This presentation reveals the failed attempts of evolutionists to account for millions of years of earth history and points to the true biblical age of the earth.

2 The earth is truly over 4.6 billion years old and the universe at best current estimate around 14 billion years old. Life has been on earth according to the fossil record for over 500 million years, first as small organisms and over the course of the last 500 million years have evolved and created everything around us out of star dust! Here is a good geologic time chart for example: here is a good timescale map of the earth for better idea.

3 Radiometric dating does not prove the earth is billions of years old. Using simple illustrations, Dr. Snelling examines the anti-biblical assumptions of radiometric dating and equips viewers with information to counter the arguments.

3 Good explanation of the age of the earth from the USGS and how it is dated. The earth basically washes away layers and recycles its rocks over billions of years. Is also why we do not have all the meteor craters as you see on the moon mars etc. erosion wears mountains down and washes away, deposits and reforms.

4 Dr. Snelling explains how radiohalos hidden in the crystals that make up rocks unlock a biblical understanding of radiometric dating and the age of the earth.

4 This is a his only concept and has no scientific make up or validity. This is his word only and only his method that he has come up with it is not scientifically valid or true and also does not exist as any testing method used by any geologist. (Snake Oil anyone?)

5 Grand Canyon offers some of the most breathtaking vistas in the world, but did the tiny Colorado River really carve this massive feature? Dr. Snelling explains the formation of the canyon in light of the global Flood of Noah’s day, not slow and gradual processes.

5 The grand canyon was created during the last 5 million years The rock layers in the canyon are much older and were laid down when that part of the usa was actually shallow sea. This area has slowly risen up along with the rocky mountains and as the Colorado river has carved down through the layers. During the glacial periods (about every 100,000 years) there is plenty of water to wash down the canyon to carve it even deeper.

One of the biggest issues I have is the inconsistency of his methods data and the vast amount of proof for these processes that he is not sharing and ignoring. Take any historical geology class at a local college and you will learn the true history and age of the earth and its processes for yourself and know the truth. I studied geology and have a degree myself in Geology so I know.

I would rather look at a great flood story as ancient stories that have been passed on by our human ancestors from back before written language generation to generation. And there is no possible way for two of every creature on earth to fit on the ark, There are over 8000 species of ants alone not to mention the numbers of animals in far reaches of the earth that science continues to find and the 1,000,000’s of plant and insect species. Believer’s think they can invoke a miracle whenever they get stuck in an apparently illogical corner. I am a logical thinker and logic makes sense to me stories with half truths are hard to swallow and believe. Of course they say that takes Faith but when Faith also believes in lies is it true?

When people believe blindly in what is written down so long ago and they are so stubborn in these views to not be able to change their beliefs based off of facts this is not a good thing and leads to war and conflict. Science and faith used to be hand in hand until things were written down in stone. The time when the world was flat and the earth was the center of the universe is basically the equivalent of today’s creation vs. evolution battle. That type of 6000 year old earth Creation is a flat earth science. I can dig in my back yard and find glacial deposits from the last ice age over 15,000 years ago.

I personally have basically the same view as this book and have before it was ever even written. This view is perhaps the best book I am still reading I suggest you read it and open your mind and heart instead of being caught up with something that was written before people could understand and translate the correct story. God has slowly evolved us over millions of years from the dust of stars to being able to look up at the stars and thinking about them. We are basically the universe woken up and aware of itself.

Thanks you for listening I know my belief may be far from your own but I am open to learning the truth about the earth and its history are you?— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

Jsut an interesting read[edit] — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs (signed by bot) 12:44, 25 June 2012 (UTC) (talk) 12:44, 25 June 2012 (UTC)