Talk:Antifascist Action

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In my experience[edit]

The AFA, atleast in Sweden, come across as a movement by (and for) violent assholes. For whatever reason, they tend to mainly harass/bully/threaten/no platform other leftists (including any and all non-violent communists). I've never read about the AFA taking the time to clash with actual Nazis (Sweden is estimated to have the odd 100 individual neo-Nazis in total). Aside from putting up stickers everywhere and performing random and pointless acts of petty vandalism, on occasion they've intelligently been out setting fire to people's cars at night. More than once, according to the local paper, they've actually managed to destroy the wrong person's car in doing so. Facepalm Reverend Black Percy (talk) 15:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Here in the U.S. the left-wing Antifa movement is comprised of communists, marxists and socialists due to personal experience with such activities. 'GrammarCommie' keeps reverting my minor edits because they seemingly have no idea what left-wing means. Reason given for reverting minor edit is that left-wing comprises moderates and greens LOL! Greens are socialists. Moderates want nothing to do with Antifa. I make a rational edit and the mod irrationally reverts it. I thought this was rational wiki...guess not. — Unsigned, by: Red1 / talk / contribs 15:09, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

I said AFA also includes Greens, moderates etc. And for the record while there may be some overlap between greens and socialists they are not one and the same. Furthermore, uncorroborated anecdotal claims are not valid source material. GrammarCommie (talk) 15:21, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

There is no one "the" Antifa[edit]

The article seems to get this at times and gets it wrong, too. For example it says "they" (now replaced by "AFA") are classified as a terrorist organization in New Jersey, but really there are probably more organizations of that name or a deceptively similar name than anybody could count. Heck, the people's front of Judaea would probably consider them too keen on minor distinctions and splitting up needlessly... Evil Zionist (talk) 18:30, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

You're right to suppose that the AFA is basically more of a 'branding opportunity for local vandals' than anything else. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 20:22, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
That's not actually the way most groups calling themselves Antifa have presented themselves to me thus far. Evil Zionist (talk) 20:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I might be wrong, but isn't this while paragraph full of logical fallacies?[edit]

Antifa, notably, doesn't always initiate the violence that breaks out between them and their opponents. Just sometimes. Likewise, in the US, far more violent activities have been linked to Neo-Nazi and white supremacist individuals and groups than to Antifa members. Additionally, the motive behind Antifascist action is re-markedly different than the motive behind Neo-Nazi and other far-right activist groups; the motive of the latter being primarily the oppression and control of others (a la the Nazi party of Germany), while the former primarily being that of self-defense or resistance of authoritarianism (a la the French Resistance, which engaged in defensive violence against members of the Nazi party in WWII). — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs 08:28, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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It does engage in the "not as bad as" fallacy. Bongolian (talk) 17:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Is it worth adding information on the fact Antifa has been declared a terrorist group by DOJ, FBI and 56 related Joint Terrorism Task Forces?[edit]

Antifa are terrorists[edit]