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Denise O'Leary[edit]
Who dat? TheoryOfPractice 02:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Wow this is complicated, even looking at Wikipedia's article. Help! Sterile poodle (which changed titles since I linked it).03:03, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- O'Leary is a Canadian creationist who runs a number of different blogs that link to each other the way Andy links to his essays or Ken
interlinks all his articles to try to make them look more important. She's a total IDiot, and is quite happy to get into ideological bed with the worst of them. --Kels 04:22, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, the WP article will be long and complex because A) it has to be neutral, B) it has to have a dry-as-the-Sahara-desert-tone and C) it'll attract dozens upon dozens of editors all trying to push their own pet way of presenting it. Hence why RW will probably end up with a better article at the end of it. 
d hominem 13:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Server[edit]
I'm trying to remember what their setup was at CRU. I used to work at UEA in the IT department and remember that either them or DEV had a really dodgy Mac "server" which had linux PPC installed on it, because one of the IT guys had a massive hatred of Windows because it wasn't secure. I'll have to find my email archive and dig some stuff out. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 14:44, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Are you hinting at some irony that their server wasn't secure because the IT guys didn't think Windows was secure? It's quite a kick in the teeth for IT nerds who just make knee-jerk motions against Microsoft for no real reason. d hominem 14:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- If it was their server then I would have pissed myself because the guy just kept banging on and on about windows (and the central unix servers) being too insecure for their stuff. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 14:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Fuck! It was that guy who worked for CRU. I won't print his name here, but it looks like he's left now. I'm guessing they deprecated the duff Mac server a while back though. I do know that the server that got hacked was theirs and theirs alone. They didn't use the central services machines. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 14:55, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Shitfuckdamn!! My email backups from back then are on a CDR which is now giving me shit when trying to copy the files off. Anyone know a good way to recover files from a deteriorated CDR? CrundyTalk nerdy to me 21:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Make sure it's clean (gently); try different player? ħuman
21:36, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Although I can only recommend it if you won't miss it too much, apparently smearing it in lotion or toothpaste, then putting it in the fridge works. It fills in the cracks and lets it read properly. d hominem 22:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Managed to get the data off at work. Couldn't find anything about thier server setup, so I guess the email backup I have is from before I had to help them with that. I do note that their IT manager (still there) was a complete dick. I forgot how much of a rude, arrogant twat he was. EDIT: My friend who still works at UEA just IM'ed me, and yes, it apparently was their Mac-Linux server that got hacked. They had an "ITAdministrator" (or something similar) account on there which presumably had a dictionary-vulnerable password. Traced to an IP in Russia, which presumably was just a proxy. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 09:46, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- You should add this RationalWiki exclusive information to the article. - π 11:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I don't have proof, and all my info is from over 5 years ago. The odd thing is I don't think they were using that server as their mailserver. All their addresses are "@uea.ac.uk" which would indicate they just straight through the main mailgates. They might forward onto their server from there, but I suspect the server was just being used for backups. Therefore the hackers probably spent a lot of time noseying around in there before they found anything. I doubt they just went straight to the mail spool files and ripped everything out. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 11:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Meh, looks like it wasn't the server I was thinking of. IIRC the server was called link6, and according to an email I found it was shut off and the data relocated:
- Well, I don't have proof, and all my info is from over 5 years ago. The odd thing is I don't think they were using that server as their mailserver. All their addresses are "@uea.ac.uk" which would indicate they just straight through the main mailgates. They might forward onto their server from there, but I suspect the server was just being used for backups. Therefore the hackers probably spent a lot of time noseying around in there before they found anything. I doubt they just went straight to the mail spool files and ripped everything out. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 11:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- You should add this RationalWiki exclusive information to the article. - π 11:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Managed to get the data off at work. Couldn't find anything about thier server setup, so I guess the email backup I have is from before I had to help them with that. I do note that their IT manager (still there) was a complete dick. I forgot how much of a rude, arrogant twat he was. EDIT: My friend who still works at UEA just IM'ed me, and yes, it apparently was their Mac-Linux server that got hacked. They had an "ITAdministrator" (or something similar) account on there which presumably had a dictionary-vulnerable password. Traced to an IP in Russia, which presumably was just a proxy. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 09:46, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Although I can only recommend it if you won't miss it too much, apparently smearing it in lotion or toothpaste, then putting it in the fridge works. It fills in the cracks and lets it read properly.
- Make sure it's clean (gently); try different player? ħuman
- Shitfuckdamn!! My email backups from back then are on a CDR which is now giving me shit when trying to copy the files off. Anyone know a good way to recover files from a deteriorated CDR? CrundyTalk nerdy to me 21:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Fuck! It was that guy who worked for CRU. I won't print his name here, but it looks like he's left now. I'm guessing they deprecated the duff Mac server a while back though. I do know that the server that got hacked was theirs and theirs alone. They didn't use the central services machines. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 14:55, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- If it was their server then I would have pissed myself because the guy just kept banging on and on about windows (and the central unix servers) being too insecure for their stuff. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 14:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
“”We have turned off link6 as the DDC web server, the DDC is now being served from a new Mac in my office called ddcweb1.cru
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- The guy who sent that email left, and so I presume it was nothing to do with that. They probably set up another server after I left. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)