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Releasing caged animals[edit]

From the article: Releasing caged animals (generally considered highly counterproductive -- many animals are too tame to survive outside, and some become invasive species).

Leaving invasive species out, I see this more of giving animals the freedom of dying in the Nature they belong to, as opposed to be mass killed to become a collar or cuff. I don't think "ecoterrorists" are so naive to free them without knowing their fate. (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 05:45, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Then, apparently, you don't know what you are talking about. ħumanUser talk:Human 05:50, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
The releasing of mink by these people in Britain has led to great destruction of native wildlife. Totnesmartin 05:56, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Care to expand, Human? (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 10:52, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

If he doesn't, I will. I grew up in very rural Ireland on the banks of a river. It was a gorgeous, rich, varied ecosystem, teeming with waterfowl, coarse fish, sport fish, swans, migrant swans, islands, shallow rapids, large cascades, broad stretches of slow water - and very, very beautiful. Our ears perked up when we heard a man had established a mink farm about two miles down the road. So too, it seemed, did the ears of some supposed eco-lovers, who after some time tore a hole in the fence at night and released all the animals. Well, it didn't take long. The mink is a savage animal with no natural predators in this environment. Waterfowl nest on the ground, so all their eggs and young were eaten, as well as the adults, because these are small birds - coot, waterhen, duck, etc. The swans were too big to eat, but their eggs weren't. The mink bred like wildfire, and within about three or four years of the release, the river was almost dead. Where once there was constant birdsong, there was now cold silence. With no waterfowl to eat the algae, riverbank and underwater grasses, the river choked up considerably, causing silting and excess growth. The fast running water in the trout beds slowed with the obstructions, and the pebble base couldn't support spawning, so the sport fish moved away. With no baby trout to eat, the coarse fish shagged off too. The riverbanks became silty and choked with reeds, so swimming holes became slimy and inaccessible. The tourism industry slowed, as a village known for its fishing had very little fish.

They ruined it, totally ruined it. So - thanks a fucking lot, you wanker ecoterrorists. Boy, that was really great releasing those poor, unfortunate mink, wasn't it? I hope you're happy, and I hope you have no fucking jobs and you rot in some sad sack bar regaling the world with your great stories of animal liberation. You stupid fucks. DogP 12:52, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Ok, let me repeat what the article says: "many animals are too tame to survive outside, and some become invasive species". I was addressing the first part of that sentence. When saying leaving invasive species out, I meant "not addressing the issue of invasive species". I didn't mean: "letting invasive species out of the cages"!!! Really, forgive me for my English. (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 13:35, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Even if they are native, tame, unable to survive, etc, it's generally a bad idea; What kind of animals are you talking about? Chickens, cows, caged birds, giraffes, hippopotami? DogP 14:04, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Those who are not invasive species. If all of them are, change the article accordingly. (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 14:05, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Thanks. Huh, my bad English made an ecoterrorist out of me! What next? A Schlafly acolyte perhaps? :-D (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 14:17, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
So, yeah, if they are simply going to die quickly, I guess that's ok? However (and the article isn't wrong on this, just doesn't go into it), it's very hard to tell what might become an invasive (looks outside at the Japanese Bittersweet growing all over everything in sight...). If biologists can't predict what might die and what might become invasive, one would hope that the ETs would have the sense to know that they don't know, either. ħumanUser talk:Human 21:54, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Letting out scientific research animals can also lead to wicked bad cases of rage virus zombies. ----CWaddell 18:23, 29 October 2008 (EDT)