Talk:Esther Vilar

Is she really a feminist?

Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 15:43, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Do we really have any sources for this article? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

There's her book, which you can get off The Pirate Bay. And then there's her interview, which the article already links to. The way you know she's a feminist, is that she divorced her husband two years into her marriage. L's Ideology (talk) 20:15, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

1. She is listed as a critic of feminism on Wikipedia.
2. She once was a feminist, it seems, but does not affirm to be one then, in an interview (google translated), other bits below are from it as well.
3. Depending on whom you ask, and the phase of the Moon, her feminist/feminist-critic book could be conceived as feminist.
4. She at least moved on from this and writes novels and plays. The label is probably no longer warranted.
5. She got into a heated argument with Alice Schwarzer, the defacto lead feminist in Germany, and was called a traitor and fascist.
6. However, its pointed out that this was a low point, because Vilar's father was a Jew who fled from the Nazis.
7. She did write Speer, but when I check the collaborators, Jim Rakete and Klaus Maria Brandauer, it looks legit. One is an artist associated with punk and new wave subcultures, who illustrated the book, and the other is an old fashioned stage and TV actor of repute. The insinuation that Vilar has fascist leanings (as the article here suggests) is extremly dodgy.

You should finally update the mission, but as it stands, it's hard to see what makes her missional at all. ~ Aneris ✻ 21:29, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Depends on waht do you consider as "feminism". Here in Spain, there´re lots of currents seeking to embrace values traditionally associated to feminity, such as compassion, empathy, affection, sensitivity, emotions, sweetness, cooperativeness, etc... and celebrating jobs traditionally assigned to women, especially care works (housewifes, maidens, nurses, child care...). In a nutshell: Just a traditional femenine essentialism not very different from the "Female Section" values (a branch from the fasctist "FET de las JONS"). (Oh, the irony) Nitrato de Chile (talk) 21:16, 3 July 2021 (UTC) Nitrato de Chile