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Talk:Mahatma Gandhi

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this version was deleted[edit]

there is nothing salvageable in it. by all means create a page on gandhi but dont use this as a template AMassiveGay (talk) 10:17, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

why[edit]

have we brought back a page that we voted to delete? AMassiveGay (talk) 12:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

That was 2019. This is a new article. Kevs Ping! 08:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

racism[edit]

of course gandhi was racist when he went to south africa. he wasnt against the british empire at that. he was all for the british empire. he got his lawyering traing in uk and by all accounts, had a wonderful time. he didnt feel like an indian oppressed by a foreign power, he didnt see himself as a second class citizen whose culture was treated as inferior to that of whites and the empire, he saw himself as part of that empire, not second class but as indian equal to any british citizen. an elite citizen no less. it was only when he was travelling first class in south africa, as befitted his status as one of the empires elite memnbers, he first realised that maybe he was not an equal partner within the empire when he was kicked out of first class by the south african ticket inspector. this spurred his journey to 'enlightenment' as it were. he still thought black africans primitive and beneath his station. he initially set out to get recognition of indians in south africa as the equals to whites, not to be treated like the blacks. the indians were civilised. he was still the empires man, and still had the empires racist attitudes to 'lesser races' so to speak. it was the start of his journey to indian nationalism and his throwing off of british cultural trappings and rediscovering his indian roots and culture and his attempts to promote an india whose culture was uniquely indian free from british influence/corruption.

no doubt gandhi started out racist. its not wrong to say so. but it is important to say why he was racist at this point. one needs to know his starting point else his evolution makes little sense. he was a racist for sure. just saying he was and then he wasnt doesnt tell us anything. its probably that he originally a believer in the empire that he had insight into its workings that made him such a problem for the british when he had fully turned against it AMassiveGay (talk) 16:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)