Talk:Project for the New American Century

The next time someone reverts something on this page, they might want to clarify why, otherwise there's no reason not to revert the reversion.

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It was done for being obvious truther bullshit. Try reading the quote in context.Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 04:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Pardon me, but the quote and interpretation thereof appeared to be labeled in the edit as truther bullshit. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:42, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Nope, they are clearly truther bullshit. I rolled back and edited to leave the quote in, but excised this portion:

“”Indicating, whether or not US assets were involved (MIHOP) or were disabled to allow it to happen (LIHOP), the 9/11 attacks were without question on the New American Century wishlist. And Santa delivered.

If you actually read the document, this is blatantly false (and the author inserted into the quote a reference of the "transformation" being to the ideology of conservatism, also false). The PNAC was clearly not hoping for an attack -- the document is about updating the US military and says that it will be unlikely that a transformation (in military equipment and readiness) will be unlikely without a Pearl Harbor-type event. This is just a truther quote mine. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 06:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

True; I missed the misrepresentation of the quote. The other part was not labeled clearly enough as "in the truthers' view." ListenerX^TalkerX 06:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Your mentioning it made me put the quote back in, sans truther-ness, so it improved the article anyway. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 06:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate the consideration. My point was more that (early) truthers were the vector by which the PFNAC became commonly known, less the validity of the argument [that the quote was indicative of a LIHOP scenario]. I had pulled my info from Wikipedia, but if you're right, Nebuchadnezzar, and the quote was referring to military readiness, it relieves my paranoia on the topic quite a bit. ²³⁸U. 11:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)