Talk:Protestant vs. Catholic atheism
This is a strange article, with some amazingly good points. Does anyone know if we talk about "cultural religious identity" on any other page? Cause we should be. The very last section on this page is the most critical for any discussion of atheism, to understand how it is that people still identify with their religion. But the fact that the title is about protestant and catholic atheists suggests that this is a more specific "thing" related to their conflict in Ireland. But at the same time, that's not really clear either. 
Godot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability 16:52, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- " Does anyone know if we talk about "cultural religious identity" on any other page?" Maybe in a discussion about Judaism? Anecdote alert: I know many, many "atheists" who still identify as "Jews" for cultural reasons, and I'm sure you do too. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
17:00, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Exactly that, but also the reality is that in the west, our very daily lives are basically "christian", whatever that means. the ethics we have about things like the protestant work ethic, the idea we should give to charity, the idea sex is bad/harmful/shameful, the idea that marriage matters and is between two people, the idea you should have a monogamous marriage, our ideas about euthanisa, and on and on... our "culture" is largely christian. you have a hard time getting away from it, even as a born and raised athiest, wiccan, Thorist, whatever. and i'm not sure we talk much about that... anyhow...
Godot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability 17:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Exactly that, but also the reality is that in the west, our very daily lives are basically "christian", whatever that means. the ethics we have about things like the protestant work ethic, the idea we should give to charity, the idea sex is bad/harmful/shameful, the idea that marriage matters and is between two people, the idea you should have a monogamous marriage, our ideas about euthanisa, and on and on... our "culture" is largely christian. you have a hard time getting away from it, even as a born and raised athiest, wiccan, Thorist, whatever. and i'm not sure we talk much about that... anyhow...
First sentence[edit]
I'm not sure I'd agree with the first sentence. At best it's over-simplifying and generalising. At worst, it's insulting.
Many people in Northern Ireland do not see themselves as 'Ulster-Scots'. Many people who are of a Roman Catholic background also have Ulster-Scots or Scottish ancestry. Many people of Protestant backgrounds also consider themselves as either Irish, Northern Irish or both - ie. it is not a adjective confined merely to people of a Roman Catholic background. This is what the article suggests, and it is wrong.
Also, further into the article, this wiki suggests that Ian Paisley "rambles". He may well ramble and, believe me, I'm not particularly a fan. However, would it not be better for this article to take a more appropriate tone and not inject opinion?— Unsigned, by: 75.182.54.240 / talk / contribs 04:04, 4 July 2014 (UTC)